TF2: Spy Psychology - How to Cloak
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- #TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
Spy is an everywhere man... if he can use his cloak well, he'll vanish as quickly as he appears...
Thanks again to @Megaboomlord for helping some of the filming and to @elmaxoTF2 and @TheWhatShow for the cameos.
0:00 Intro
1:02 How Cloak Works
2:26 Getting Behind The Enemy
6:46 Escaping
11:53 Other Items
15:03 Outro
Music used (in order of appearance):
Luigi's Mansion 3 - 13F Exterior
Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story - Fawful is There
Half-Life Alyx - Tanker Antlion Zoo
Portal 2 OST Volume 1 - Concentration Enhancing Menu Initialiser
Super Mario Odyssey - New Donk City Night 2
Terraria - Alternate Day
Trance Music for Racing Game (distorted)
Team Fortress 2 - Playing With Danger
A Hat in Time - You Are Now Legally a Bird
Luigi's Mansion 2 Dark Moon - Library Piano [Electro Swing Remix]
Kevin MacLeod - Carefree
Mario Party 1 - Mushroom Bank Theme
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Water Temple
ULTRAKILL - Take Care
Team Fortress 2 - Meet The Pyro
A Hat in Time - Oh It's You
Mittsies - Alchemy
RinkevichMusic - Uplifting Corporate Background Music
Battle Against a Weird Opponent
Team Fortress 2 - Ride Behind You 2 (Alex Giudici Remix)
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A few corrections and things I missed:
.Water droplets when coming out of water are visible on your for a brief moment while cloaked.
.You can hear the spy's footsteps while cloaked
.The loose cannon and force of nature also cause knockback while disguised
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I don't even want to play Spy, i just watch these because they're so well made
Also i get the insider scoop 😈
I don’t even play tf2
*does conga*
@@byamps422 i would recommend it if you have a pc. i mean, it's free.
@@HydaGaeming I know
12:40
I was listening to this in the background, and thought my adblock failed me for a minute there.
Same
same dw
as a pyro player i can confirm that a revealed spy is impossibly distracting after they kill someone
As a spy main I love how pyros forget spy has a GUN
@@ThatOneGuyWhoTalks2Much he has one!!!
@@ThatOneGuyWhoTalks2Much I remember this, but idk what to do to counter it, help pls
@@Aaa-vp6ugFlares or Shotgun
@@earlraivengohetia7878 ah, my crackshot aim isn’t helping.
Thanks anyway though.
A few notes I have not seen in the comments.
• Running out of cloak is louder than a voluntary decloak.
• Jumping with the C&D wastes cloak as your up and down movement is also counted.
• Spend some time on your favorite maps attempting jumps that slower classes would not be able to pull off, and observer what props are rarely checked. (Map knowledge)
• If a prop is rarely checked and you are able to get on top of it, juke away from it while cloaking. Once cloaked jump onto it or slide behind it.
On another note, I like to dmg surf as medic as well as spy. It is amazing how quickly Soldier mains get tilted that you are using their rockets to escape them.
Another thing with the Cloak and Dagger, if you want to travel further without needing to stop or if it is an emergency to move, but you don't have enough cloak to run away; just crouch. Crouching allows you to travel a lot further than if you simply just walked somewhere cloaked.
It is my shame, @@JeffarryLounder that I forgot to mention this. Here, is your crown.
@@djchappell1726surfing is fun
@@Evil_Pixl indeed
Another tip regarding the Cloak and Dagger is that increases to your walking speed of _any kind_ do not increase cloak drain. This means that, if you decide to use the Big Earner, you can use the watch a little more actively, as cloaking might take a little longer, but your movement speed after a stab will often be enough to help you get away.
Damn, those SFM are absolute fire, mate! Great work on them, I adore the stylization choices.
Especially when it coincides with the scripting, that spy ad was a lazy purple-level moment of quality there.
I thought that spy ad was a real ad
The piss off skip button at 13:13 made me laugh out loud
Its elmaxo's voice there in place of Obamna I think
More huge tips. People do not look up, hiding on top of anything at all decreases your chances of being caught drastically. Crouching beside small elevations is also a good way to hide as people don't often see if coming. Finally, sometimes it can be a good idea to simply hide in the last spot your opponents expect. Sometimes I find success hiding in the middle of a room/area as people tend to check walls and corners (though this is heavily dependent on the situation).
Also be sure to always look behind you before you cloak to ensure it is safe to do so and do your best to conceal your decloak in case you get unlucky and someone walks by. One of my most common spy deaths is someone just materializing behind me when I decloak
do you have any tips for countering the "360 spin" pyros that will hunt you down until they get to your intel room?
@@gordonrams_into4539 Gun them down with your revolver if you have a chance to do it without getting punished by his teammates, sadly no other tips from me aside from whatever else it was said on the "escaping" segment of the video.
I think at this point we've all seen the LazyPurple video
@@CT-1118 True, but why are you bringing it up here?
@@What_A_Shane Just making a joke about where that tip came from
One thing about the dead ringer is that people tend to chase you more if they see you have it out, you can use this to help out your local demoman and lure them into sticky traps, as the rush of chasing a spy down tends to distract enough for them not to notice
10:06 "you might have outsmarted me, but i outsmarted your outsmarting"
6:55
Your Eternal Reward has got to be the most underrated knife, SILENT BACKSTABS, absolutely broken.
your eternal reward is for realism enthusiasts because people actually never scream when you stab them from the back, they only gasp because all the air is coming out of their lungs
It’s not actually silent. The subtle stab noise still audible. It just mutes voices
The priest spy is back at it again with some invisible awesomeness, gotta say Jonto, this is a great video. Keep em coming!
i agree that this video is amazing, but who Jonto keeps coming and if he wants them to stop coming, is none of your business.
@@Falkeshy my little pony pfp detect opinion rejected
Priest?
@@Falkeshy Ratio
@@unstronzo3517 🤝
The Dead Ringer has an upside to the LOUD DECLOAK SOUND... If you fake the death of an ally at the start of a team fight, you can decloak behind the front line and half the enemy team will turn around to shoot at you (you should be behind cover) and your team will have free reign to shoot them in the backside because they were distracted by the spy that isn't even going to bother engaging with them right now.
Don't forget the angry mob that'll religiously follow you until you die
That's... actually very smart.
14:05 If you misspell "lose" as "loose" again I will spycheck you with a flamethrower IRL
DAMMIT A SPELLING/GRAMMAR ERROR ALWAYS SLIPS THROUGH
Lol
"The decloak makes a loud sound, don't decloak right behind players"
Say it louder for the Spies in back
(Also great work on this video, it's looks great)
I feel like a classroom for spies would need to have only one row.
Otherwise everyone but the back row would have a knife in their backs.
I never really was on your row
@@redstonewarrior0152 It would need to be a semi-circle.
@@SimoneBellomontefull circle, teacher gets x100 razorback
You can hear spies walk sounds even when they are cloaked so its best to crouch walk in quiet areas especially if you are being hunted. I've found countless spies by listening to their footsteps. Granted this doesn't always help which is why I said quiet areas because if there are sentry beeps, heavy rev up, soldier rockets, or people spamming voice lines. Your chances of hearing a spy are pretty much gone.
Mostly helpful info for fellow cloak and dagger spies.
Yeah, I did leave that fact out since it’s incredibly rare for it to come into play, and eventually people will figure it out, but yeah
The editing is getting absurd on this channel dude, major props! Loved the video, and that L'etranger ad segment killed me LOL
Oh shash PKBeats here? And no comments? So cool to see you here man, love your Smash facts
yooooo its him
12:50 you got me. I was about to flip shit because i pay for UA-cam premium so i dont see ads and that popped up and i really thought it was a ad.. Great editing
Literally anyone on Netflix when they make an even more expensive membership that doesn’t get ads and anyone else gets that uses the default gets ads for a payed program
Glad you got monetized. Just got an ad right before the "Le'tranger ad" bit and gotta say that was hilarious!
Also this is the only time I didn't want to skip any ads cuz you really deserve the money from this great content
Skipping still gets him money, it’s Adblocking the ad that doesn’t, afaik.
Fun fact: Ads do not mean monetization. UA-cam just places them and you have no say into it. Plus your old videos before monetization will require fixing to lower the ad count.
One thing to note is that you cannot cloak for the entire attack interval of your knife (which is 800 miliseconds), unlike your gun and your sapper, which you can cloak immediately after using.
In certain situations, it might be more worth it to pop a cap into your target and cloak away, especially if they're at low enough health.
The ambassador is perfect for picking off injured targets since it does the highest potential damage out of all the revolvers, without prior setup like sapping a building.
I would use the amby, but I got grandma fingers.
I did not know about the variable cloak initiation, thank you!
The reason why backstabbing and immediately DRing just doesnt work out at all
Whenever you cloak to escape you are so stressed you shake your mouse all over the place, it's the funniest shit ever xD
Great video!
Looks like some small form of juking his head hurtbox.
I guess it’s a defensive mechanism that kicks in, making me visibly tense up
I'm a medic main but you're still all of a sudden my new favorite TF2ber. I wish I had 1,000 accounts to subscribe to you.
Thank you for existing
only a thousand? why not a billion
@@Yeah_nah.Time
L'Etranger pair quite nicely with dead ringer because it can restore cloak... as long you hitting your shots
Very nice job! I love this kind of video. For anyone who doesn't know, the air strafing at 8:52 is done by holding only W while aiming at the spot you want to orbit around
Thanks for the tutorial, not a spy main but this'll amplify the effectiveness of me being paranoid in open areas
3:20 TERRARIA SOUNDTRACK WOWZARS!
How to be a father in TF2.
HAHAHAHAH LOL😂
Attention! On maps where you are planning your route, do not forget that the route from spawn may have players 'patrolling' after they just respawned. Other than finding a safe path, do note that no teammates are directly behind you or make sure you don't end up in areas where enemies use to peek. To really play without chances of collision, hopping on rock props are still the best method to not getting spotted.
8:18 I had PTSD from this BGM
10:58
I have a gun that 100% crits after backstab. I can backstab, cloak away, then crit headshot, then cloak away again.
What's the name of it?
@@abelkilo7242 Diamondback or something. I play russian, don't remember what's its name.
DiamondBack
I use the Cloak and Dagger to comment on a documentary on wild enemy team.
Sitting there and enjoying the show, observing them and studying their behavior.
Truly, nature is beautiful.
Even though I have hundreds of hours on spy watching these videos is still entertaining asf edit: 12:41 wow
I said the same exact thing in my comment lmao
14:55 is much funnier
Yeah it's weird, there's a whole ad inserted into the middle of the video, maybe as Jonto if UA-cam is bugged?
@@callmefox630 Pfp Sauce (Artist)? 🗿
I wanna take a bit of time to answer here because this video helped me a bit
I was in a bad headspace and something about this video just... calmed me down. It was entertaining and creative, I really liked the editing both for visuals, sound effects and jokes, and it was overall a very pleasant experience
My favourite part is definitely the l'Étranger ad, I rewound the video twice because I didn't fully process that I had an ad, then after the ad was over I got another ad, but this time for TF2, and the format was different. The quarter second of pause before the "ad" was really what sold the whole thing.
So, overall, thank you so much for this video, you have done an excellent job, and you can be certain that it earned you at least one subscriber
Tbh you should definitely make a series on positioning and timing. You’re so good at explaining spy!
both positioning and timing are gained through experience and time spent playing the game, the best he could explain it as is "stay behind the enemy and hide either in plain sight or somewhere no one expects"
Great balance of humour and genuinely useful information, love your vids man
Jontohil2…
The comedy, the script, and the SFM are a worthy rival/ equivalent of LazyPurple’s content
You take things that are already funny and relatable and amplify them, which is hilarious.
Like these:
5:45
7:15
Informative, funny, concise… rarely ever been happier to sub to someone unprompted.
9:48 You may have outsmarted me but i outsmarted your outsmarting
On the topic of misdirection with cloaking, if you really want to get inside players heads, change direction halfway through cloaking to make it seem like you changed too early, then go back the other way again once fully cloaked. Make the enemy think they’re smarter.
4:50DO IT! I want to see if there are paths that I never considered
10:50 the best part of this trick is people never assume you went back, they always think just missed you, so it works a lot more than it should
These videos are amazing and the production value looks high, but don't feel pressured to keep putting them out as fast as you can, okay? Burnout is a serious thing, and it's better to pace yourself than to crank out content at the cost of your mental health. We'll still be here!
Bro your videos are truly the best thing for someone like me who wants to get better at spy, I watched all of them and after some practice I can say that I really improved👍. Thanks man 🤝 (also I'm proud to be one of the few that can pronounce "L'Etranger" correctly, yes I'm french)
Ps: you truly deserve more subs
Funnily enough I actually know the correct pronunciation as well, but I never actually spoke it in this video.
I think most are watching those vids purely for entertainement. After some time, like 100 hrs and probably earlier, you would have already found out all of this just by playing. Still entertaining af even though jonto hasnt rlly understood the use of the dead ringer.
@@DailyWorldWideNews945 fun fact, back in my early days I almost exclusively used the DR, but eventually I discovered I had a lot more fun using the invis instead and it made me learn smarter habits. It also meant that when it got nerfed in Jungle Inferno, it didn't affect me. I'm of the opinion that if you start out as spy with the dead ringer, it teaches you bad habits.
@@Jontohil2 ye thats kind of true. Dr is one of those weapons who are probably worse than stock but just so addicting that u play with them anyways. Same goes with ambassador.
Man, this video's production quality is just through the roof.
Thank you for this tutorial because as a spy main with 184 hours i have been using so much dead ringer that using invis for me is literally boring and i completly forgot how to use
1:02 Holy shit is that a Ben 10 reference?
Yep, and it’s the perfect time for one.
I really like the sfm, the editing, and the ultrakill music.
Good job
👍👍
you have an unbelievable amount of effort put into this video holy shit, good job
Take a look at culrulduds 4 hr tutorial about circle strafing lol. Still this vid is extremely entertaining, even though i have already knew all of this by 60 hrs in spy just by playing the game.
4:55 This would be kinda like the Engineer's Blueprints by Uncle Dane, but for Spy Routes and Decloak Spots instead of Building Setup Locations. This would cement my belief that you are the Uncle Dane of Spy Mains.
It would also be fucking awesome, do it.
10:12 in short... play chess with the enemy
12:37 really put me off because it was the lag, because adds have to load having the pause really set it in there along with the music!! good job jon
6:30 genius! I should play really loud music through all chat to mask my decloak sound!
6:50 Your Ethernal Reward my beloved < 3
13:40 jokes on you , i am so in the spy meta that i am french myself and i can pronounce it mhuahahaha
Oui?
I feel bad for you.
@@metalclawsteelheart yeah i get that a lot
My sincere condolences
It the stranger
Ngl that opening was a banger, the small hints of the spy were really nice.
Incredible production value! Your animations and edits are top notch, and everything is paced and organized well. Very enjoyable to watch.
i’m always impressed by the effort put into these videos, looking awesome like always
Lovely video as always. Keep up the good work!
Я даже не знаю, как это корректно перевести на английский, но друг, у тебя просто невероятный контент, я действительно удивлён видеть настолько мало людей подписаных на тебя. Продолжай в том же духе, у тебя явно талант :)
Don't worry about it Google will auto translate for you
@@IJN_Kaga_CV-3 uh yea, completely forgot 'bout it :)
Don't worry, I learned an entirely new language in five minutes solely so I could read this comment.
I now have more work opportunities as an interpreter, thanks for that.
Вот почти что правильный перевод/Here's an almost correct translation: _I don't even know, how to correctly translate this to English, but dude, you have absolutely amazing content, I'm definetely shocked to see such a small amount of people subscribed to you. Keel it up you have talent._
@@gneu1527 пасиб :). thx dude
HOW do you have only 10K subs??! This video is absolutely nuts, you must have put soooo much effort into this! Continue and you'll become a very big youtuber soon :)
15:02 when the enemy demoman decloak
Love the video mate! High quality, entertaining, and well paced as always. Only thing I gotta say is, posture, man!! Get that slouch outta your back!!
9:06 ULTRAKILL MUSIC I FUCKING LOVE ULTRAKILL ULTRAKILL IS THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!
14:53 "Dropped the med"
this is the second best episode of the series for how important it is, right behind -you- the disguise video. feigning movement paths during a getaway via cloaking is a genius and effective move and is a very big part of playing spy effectively in my experience.
also, great use of Ride Behind You 2 for the outro
That fake ad was actually too well done. When the video cut and the music started, I actually groaned before immediately realizing it was a bit.
I actually never knew you lose speed while backpedalling. That's an interesting thing to note.
Terraria music... WTH???
I love the Ride behind you outro.
Thanks so much, great video!
Great ad part in the middle of the vid. Very convincing. Keep it up!
I want to see that series! 4:35 🙏
Jon, I know you’re a passive spy(passive?) but can you please make tutorials about playing spy with an aggressive play style?
Btw dead ringer is so bad for playing the normal passive play style so the dr really depends on how aggressive and how good you are at being aggressive.
Also love the new vid
Since being an aggressive spy will make you get caught out a lot, you should just get better at trickstabbing or using your revolver. The dr is good for this playstyle because it makes it a lot easier to escape. The dr also has a loud decloak sound and therefore you should be cautious once you decide to decloak. Being an aggressive spy is stressful sometimes but just remember you are a spy, the weakest class in the game. Be aggressive, but remember to try and trick the opponent into getting into backstab range, via disguises/trickstabs.
This is some high production quality. Especially for a channel with
This is such a genuinely amazing video. Informative and crazily well edited with great visuals for information, storytelling, and jokes.
The L'Etranger ad genuinely caught me off guard, well done.
5:20 Did... did that engie just phase shift?
Hey is the phrase at 15:20 "Like a wolf among the lambs" and if yes what does exactly means pls answer sounds so cool
It’s kinda like the wolf in sheep’s clothing situation but more obvious but still a threat
The L'etranger ad actually caught me off guard and I was so ready to skip it before noticing the TF2 footage in the background and slowly realized it was an edit. Lazy hasn't been uploading as much, so you're the best we've got at the moment and so far, it's great. I've now subscribed and anticipating your next spy tips video. Keep up the good work.
That was a beautiful intro; good work and keep it up!
4:02 I just use cloak and dagger because I have no idea where any ammo packs are
As an engineer and especially pyro main, this is very useful
As an I don't really know who I main I just play man, this is very *useful*
screw engie mains all they do is building their things and then make a ton of kills lmao
@@DailyWorldWideNews945 You know where you should have hid? Back in France.
@@jetstreak2786 At least france is better than texas bruh.
@@DailyWorldWideNews945Screw scout mains all they do is run around and get loads of kills
Screw soldier mains all they do is blow stuff up and get loads of kills
Screw pyro mains all they do is burn people and get loads of kills
Screw demo mains all they do is use stickies and get loads of kills
Screw heavy mains all they do is rev up their gun and get loads of kills
Medic
Screw sniper mains all they do is head shot and get loads of kills
Screw spy mains all they do is sneak around and get loads of kills
Surprisingly, when a class does what they're meant to, they play the game. Shocking
“Piss off” on the ad is such a funny thing
I gotta say, that ad bit fully caught me off guard lol. Really well done at that
"you'll vanish as quickly as your dad"
Spy Psychology? More like Spychology, amirite?
Well done! The production value is fantastic, and the information is plenty useful.
bro i felt so attacked at 13:27 because my user is really obama_gaming😂😂😂😂
Elmaxo voice it sounds like
Great video!
BTW the Ben 10 reference had me super hooked. That’s such a perfect parallel I never considered. Props to you m8 🙏
3:09 i actually laught😂
These series of Spy tutorials are really helping me out at playing Spy!
Thank you so much Jonto, keep up the good work!!
>:D
Edit: Yes I really encourage you to make videos about cloaking routes in maps, please!
Spy's blueprints: Upward
I endured 2 unskippable 20 seconds long ads to help out more, there's so much quality and potential in this channel!
Ok now I'll watch the video.
Little precision on detecting a faked dead ringer death : the ammo box looted will be empty, which is especially noticeable as engi looking for metal
I’d definitely be interested in a Series Revolving around Cloak Usage on maps! Great video Jon! ⭐️
0:15 goofy ahhh walk
A few things i get up to as the dead ringer is i dosguise as a friendly medic to make the enemy think they got a crucial med pick, and they're less likely to push us when they already got med down, meaning our medic can build up uber easier wothout fear of getting their shit rocked. Other spies can be hard to manage this wity if they're also going for the medic, but i mean, it protects medic from the other 7 classes that want him dead.
Your edits are AMAZING! Keep up the good work. Happily subscribed!
nice watch ya got there at 6:42.
Just play the spy’s theme in your mic to give more paranoia
Plese 4:59 do it.
Good music coice btw
Absolutely
5:14 as a pybro and general pyro main I can confirm most spies are predictable and don’t expect a near full stock pyro to know what their doing… also helps that VC exists
Great Editing
Amazing Flow
Great Tutorial and Incredibly Entertaining Delivery
12:34 add thingy
15:25 femboy fishing spotted