Joe Biden is not a catholic bc he is a public heretic. Those Vatican priests are likely not good priests that have succumbed to momentary weakness. They are likely Modernist heretics and Apostates. True Catholicism is Traditional Catholicism, and it does not include Modenrism.
@@finallythere100 Anything and anyone involved with the Vatican II Sect is the counterfeit church, a new religion, an abomination to Our Lord Christ Jesus along with the Antichrist and antipopes, cardinals, bishops and priests. Thank our Lord Jesus Christ that I am still in the Roman Catholic Faith which is a remnant. Those that are involved with the Vatican II Sect have left the Roman Catholic Faith and are being led to hell.
@@francisgilson4429 - Thanks for reply. I almost left and then remembered that there was a Trad church close to where oi had moved. I could see in the past, priests really had no choice, no TLM. . But it seems like 2 ships drifting farther apart and one can no longer straddle the 2 or hop back and forth. You have to pick one. After a couple of years at a Trad parish I went a while in various N.O. parishes for Mass, and it's getting worse. The WOKE content obviously forced into the sermons, my parish growing up stripped of the beautiful altar and statues. It looked big and barren, it felt not holy at all. Funerals where the priest is talking with certainty about 2 separate people who died bOTH being in heaven...SO different from my mothers Trad funeral where prayers and Masses said were so emphasized. I still saw 2 priests that seemed really devout. But one of the chapel dedicated too the Blessed Mother, had the large Sacred heart statue moved to a cubby in the very back. I had to search for it. In its former place on the altar is a tacky Divine Mercy print. There ARE still some good ones there, but I don't think that they are allowed now to even say the TLM. I get the feeling a couple of them are doing the best they can. Not sure they can make the switch?? Before I moved I almost walked out of Mass when the devout priest was obviously required to say something stupid about Francis fawning all over Martin Luther for the 500th. He just said my hubby's VERY devout funeral, (he was very strict about it- so I stayed. But soon moved away.) I don't know, though, if it would be a sin to attend a wedding of N.O. Mass ?? What do you think? Or a funeral? (but if priest says they are in heaven, that's a problem.)
Sorry, John, it's not 30 percent that don't believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist, but only 30 percent that DO. That means 70 percent DO NOT believe. This is the poll result. And this is the crisis of faith. Sadly, only now do the bishops make a move, but I guess we ought to be grateful.
Where did this poll take place including which country/ries and how and who did they approach? Was it leaving Mass or in the street for instance, every 1 issue poll should have full disclosure including the exact wording of the question.
Presumably the male escort who outed his clients is hoping to make enough money to never have to work again ? As I imagine he will never work at his profession again.
The Financial Times says that in the Vatican it's not 'who you know' but 'what you know about who you know'. Also that financial ignorance seems to be a necessity for any access to Vatican funds.
I hang on to my faith despite its current punched up condition and consider JA's show to be as restorative and energizing as a blood transfusion. The institutional church has often resembled an Italian comic opera in extremis and I thank heavens for John Allen's honest and whimsical libretto.
If one-third of American Catholics do not believe that the bread and wine is truly the body and blood of Jesus Christ, then they are not being instructed properly when young or if accepted into the Church at any other age. Tragically, the respect given the host over the years has faded from being the true presence of Jesus Christ to just the breaking and sharing of bread like at Jesus' Passover dinner table.
PROSTITUTION IS A STATE OF MUTUAL CONTEMPT. IF THE PROSTITUTE FEELS THAT THEY NEED TO "OUT" THE PRIEST--THEY SHOULDN´T BE IN THAT CAREER IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE PROSTITUTE AVAILS THEMSELF TO THE CUSTOMER AND THEN CHASTIZES THEM ONCE THEY ARE HOOKED. A VERY BAD ACT.
The problem with surveys by secular pollsters always comes down to the question. If you only give the self-described RC a choice of corporeal body and actual blood cells or nothing, it makes the result flawed. At the very least it complicates the instructional task ahead. Do the non-believers adopt the view of most evangelicals: communion is purely a memorial of the Last Supper? Do they adopt a Calvinistic view that Jesus is present, but only in a sacramental and spiritual way? Do they take a receptionist view that Jesus is present body and blood but only for those who worthily believe and only at the moment they receive the elements? Do they take a Lutheran view that Jesus is actually present body and blood but so are bread and wine. If you only know they don't accept RC dogma, your instructional task is monumental. This is the 21st century. You can't simply say this is RC Eucharistic dogma and shake a fist at them.
Your summary begs, what seems to me, an obvious question: When has transparency ever been a defining characteristic of an absolute monarch whose very election prides itself on utmost secrecy? Platitudes aside, can’t we just get real here? There is absolutely no reasonable expectation of transparency here. There is simply no reason to believe that governance of the temporal affairs of the Church is now or ever was transparent.
What is going on with our Priests?? I have been aware of Gay Priest for years, but I had no problem with it . I always thought as long as they didn't go against the Vows they took they were no different than a straight Priest , they too were supposed to hold to the VOWs they took !! Now one hears of broken Vows all over the place !! Even Bishop's and higher ups are throwing the Holy Vows into the garbage!! It is Heartbreaking to hear of this!! ! What is going to happen to the ones that have broke their Vows ???
Forget bishops it goes higher .....Cardinals too .... remember cardinal Mccarick is already in court for homosexual sex with underage boys ......that's not all the bust came when someone tipped the Vatican police and priests bishops and Cardinals were caught having a sexual orgy in the Vatican mind you ....how pathetic ....St Padre Pio was right the smoke of Satan entered the church with Vatican 2
Pray for them, all of them. Pray all 4 mysteries of the rosary daily for them. Its easier than saying 1! Also, I do it first thing when I get up before breakfast. It takes me a little over an hour. I say the virtual rosary on you tube, but you must really consecrate on the words and mysteries from the heart. God bless and keep you. Please pray for me and my son john and my family!
The lectionary currently in use has eliminated the verses of 1st Corinthians 11 that warn about unworthy reception of the Eucharist. Restoration of those verses, with adequate catechesis, could do much more than printing another document that few will read and fewer will heed.
Jesus gave the power to priests when saying do this in memory of me,that’s when the holy communion becomes our lords body blood soul and divinity at the main part of mass, The Consecration, so I have never ever heard of a person saying it is only a piece of bread.enough said.
The Catholic and Greek Orthodox false doctrine of "transubstantiation" teaches that the bread and juice undergo a change to become the literal body and blood of Christ. "And when Jesus had taken a cup and ***given thanks*** (Catholic transubstantiation happens here), He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for ***this is My blood*** (Orthodox transubstantiation happens here) of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. “But I say to you, I will not drink of this ***fruit of the vine*** (Jesus still called it juice) from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”" (Matthew 26:27-29) 1. Transubstantiation teaches the bread the juice for the Eucharist miraculously changes into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus. 2. Orthodox say the grape juice changes into literal blood at the “prayer of thanksgiving” before the proclamation “this is my body”. 3. Catholics say the grape juice changes into literal blood at the proclamation "this is my body" after the prayer. ONE VERSE REFUTATION #1: If you carefully read Mt 26:27-29 above, you will notice that after Jesus “gave thanks” and proclaimed “this is my blood”, Jesus himself refutes both RC and Orthodox because he then afterwards called it “fruit of the vine” not blood. This utterly collapses and refutes, with no chance for rebuttal of any kind, the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches. BONUS REFUTION #2: The fact that Orthodox and Catholic BOTH CLAIM their ritual is direct apostolic authority, example and tradition, BUT they practice TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, proves transubstantiation is a human false doctrine invented in the 4th century AD. A. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine for the following reasons: No Bible verse teaches transubstantiation. Supposed proof texts put forward by Roman Catholic and Orthodox advocates are most naturally seen as proving that the bread and juice were symbols of the body and blood. To see transubstantiation in these texts requires one to strain the text as much as our mind. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as, "fruit of the vine". If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood". This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice. In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated. 1 Cor 11:26-27 proves transubstantiation wrong because Paul calls the loaf, "bread" after both Roman Catholics and Orthodox say the "change" was supposed to take place. Catholics make Paul a liar by calling the loaf "bread" rather than what Catholic false doctrine claims it was: Literal Flesh. In 1 Corinthians 11:25, Jesus said literally that the "cup was the covenant". So which is it? Is the it the juice that is the covenant or the juice that is the blood? Is it the cup that is the covenant or is the cup the blood? In 1 Cor 11:26-28, Paul instructs us to "drink the cup" instead of "drink the blood". The Holy Spirit would not use such a figure of speech as "synecdoche" (referring to a part for the whole) if such a literal transubstantiation was actually taking place. To use a symbol when such a literal change is taking place is unthinkable. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus instituted Lord's Supper before his blood was shed and body broken! He spoke of His blood being shed, which was still yet future. This proves it was a symbol. The very record of historically, (Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Cyprian and Hippolytus) which the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches love to quote as authority, proves that before 200 AD, the church viewed the bread and juice as symbols. Conversely, the earliest historical hint of transubstantiation was in the 4th century. Obviously Jesus words, "this is my body" should be taken symbolically because it falls within a long list of symbolic statements Christ said: "I am the bread," (John 6:41), "I am the vine," (John 15:5), "I am the door," (John 10:7,9), "I am the good shepherd,"(John 10:11,12), "You are the world the salt, (Matthew 5:13), "You are the light of the world the salt, (Matthew 5:14) The apostasy of withholding the Cup: Roman Catholics, in the 1415 AD Council of Constance, decreed that the laity could no longer drink of the cup, but the bread alone. This is completely contrary to Scripture and the earliest church traditions. Jesus' own words are "drink from it, all of you" Matthew 26:26 and in Mark 14:22-23 it says "He gave it to them, and they all drank from it." The Greek Orthodox church does not withhold the juice. The Greek orthodox church violates the Bible pattern by using leavened bread, whereas Roman Catholics use unleavened bread, just as Jesus did, (Matthew 26:17) and the Bible records in 1 Cor 5:7-8. Both Roman Catholic and Greek orthodox churches violate the Bible pattern by using leavened wine, instead of unleavened grape juice. The Greek orthodox church violates the Bible pattern by using a "communion spoon" to dip into the cup to retrieve some wine-soaked bread. The Bible pattern for the Lord's Supper is that the bread and juice are not combined, but are two separate steps of "Holy communion". We wonder why Roman Catholics and Orthodox doubt God will grant his full grace and love in the symbolic elements of the bread and the juice? Why is it so hard for them to believe that He grants us the full grace of His Body and Blood via symbols? The water of baptism washes away sin: Acts 2:38; 22:16. You don't get your sins forgiven until you are immersed in water! Water is a symbol of the blood that literally removes sin. For Roman Catholics and Orthodox to believe in "real presence", is as logical as the idea that water of baptism turns into literal blood!
I'll reiterate what others have said vis. the pew survey, namely the your numbers are inverted, 70% do not hold the faith of the Church regarding the real Presence. Also, bless your heart to suggest that lack of transparency is a bug in this papacy and not a feature.
It is so sad that our Holy Father is so far off the Catholic faith and teachings that he looks so kind and so gentle 😢 It looks so likable. Some Christian ✝️ believe literally handily with serpets 🐍 without being bitten. Other Christains believe literally laying of hands on the sick, and you be cure of illness and do not take medication. Catholics do believe literally in the miracle of changing the unleavened 🍞 bread and 🍷 wine into very body and blood of Jesus Christ fully present in soul and divinity by the consecration of Priests of the Catholic Church ⛪️ not evidences to our senses
John Allen is always the go to person for any news in the Catholic Church and the Vatican! Along with Tom Reese and Jim Martin you learn all you need to know!
That is very true, there are very Holy ,good priests .. many…! Thanks be to God for them, I know few of them .. their only concern ,The Holy Church and the souls…..very sad to see what few others do to their reputation. We should pray for them.. more , care for them, love them that is the only way.
We had a priest that was loved by all. The best of the best. Everyone agreed, EXCEPT the altar boy that was having sex with him. You have no idea what you're saying.
These Vatican city people have no fear of God!! God will not be mocked and I would not want to be within 100 miles of the Vatican, when gets it's from God!!
Pope Francis would do well to stay as far away as he can from the trial. Any hint he's even indirectly influencing the outcome and you can say goodbye to his reforms
John is wrong. The presence in the Eucharist is not “physical” and the church has never claimed it to be so It is substantial , real and true, but not physical. If the church is cold in winter , the cerebrum does not need a wool hat, when the priest breaks the consecrated host Jesus does not cry out in pain. The sacramental presence is a different mode of being , it is True, Real and Substantial , but not physical.
Learn the teaching of the Church on the bodily and corporeal Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist after consecration, Mr. Allen! Jesus is not physically present as He is in Eucharistic miracles. Jesus is wholly present after transubstantiation, but you cannot take a microscope and find heart tissue and blood. He is hidden. Transubstantiation does not usually involve biology, except in Eucharistic miracles.
Perhaps if people were more aware of the many Eucharistic miracles, past & even present that abound.....they would believe......If confession became 'a real thing', something needed/stressed/available.....If sermons stressed 'real presence' more...it would help! To me the main thing that sets Catholics apart from other Christians is the Belief in the Real Presence of Jesus in Communion! So sad that so few even believe it !🙁
The first street in Cebu, Philippines was named by the Catholic Church in the early days of Spanish colonization in the 16th century as "COLON" and after that Catholic priests would always prefer to sniff the odor of the same while alone or in groups!!!
Nice pitch. Yes, it certainly is cannibalism IF it is the non-resurrected flesh and blood of someone else who does not have the status of having created this world including your own flesh and blood and then requesting that you eat his in order to receive eternal life. 🤠
Nothing to do with midpoint…It is the glorified flesh and blood of the Risen Christ into which the bread and wine is “transubstantiated” ( a great word, that one). No cannibalism of mortal human flesh is involved!
Love watching this weekly. Just a small note about careful wording of Eucharistic theology. Word like “literally” and “physically” is not as precise as “substantially” or “essentially”, as the former are ambiguous in the philosophical realm, and although it metaphysically changes substance to that of the Body and Blood of our Lord, it remains under the appearance of bread and wine (save particular miracles). 💪😇👍🇻🇦
So the old boys get together to decide who should be denied communion. I thought we had confession to absolve our sins (in this case pro choice) so is it necessary to punish people who are sinning, supposedly? Hey boys, you are losing your power...much of which you have simply awarded to yourselves. We rank and file Catholics who are expected to monetarily keep the coffers full are heartily tired of your parent-child approach to dealing with us. We are moving on to dogmatic adherence rather than old men's lavish and private lifestyles rather than this is my decision adherence. You are on your way out.
in the last 60 years, there has been a Massive Erosion of Faith and Piety among Catholics. There is no silence in the Church before and after Mass. Everybody is talking to each other. No one could pray in there, if they wanted to. Many people do not genuflect. And yet, EVERYBODY receives Communion, and hardly anybody goes to Confession. It has been so bad for so long. It may be too late for the bishops to do anything now.
Regarding the gigolo: 50 priests sounds like a lot. But this is Rome (I assume most of his "clientele" came from Rome). Rome is a company town if there ever was one. 50 priests in Rome is probably just a drop in the bucket! No story here imo
Why do you make your living spreading gossip about your Pope and Bishops. What end result are you working toward? Are we to judge Pope Francis? Do we know his motives and his intentions? Are the prayers of millions of faithful Catholics for him ignored? God will judge him. He doesn’t blink and He knows what he’s doing. Take your beautiful cashmere jacket, go home and stop speculating.
My sister has told me about this long time ago. She's Jesuit educated & got friends in the system. The Vatican is gayer than Disney world in June.
if you have a good a Priest or Priests in your parish, be very thankful to God, and pray for them and their Bishop as much as you can
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Joe Biden is not a catholic bc he is a public heretic. Those Vatican priests are likely not good priests that have succumbed to momentary weakness. They are likely Modernist heretics and Apostates. True Catholicism is Traditional Catholicism, and it does not include Modenrism.
@@finallythere100 Anything and anyone involved with the Vatican II Sect is the counterfeit church, a new religion, an abomination to Our Lord Christ Jesus along with the Antichrist and antipopes, cardinals, bishops and priests. Thank our Lord Jesus Christ that I am still in the Roman Catholic Faith which is a remnant. Those that are involved with the Vatican II Sect have left the Roman Catholic Faith and are being led to hell.
@@francisgilson4429 - Thanks for reply. I almost left and then remembered that there was a Trad church close to where oi had moved. I could see in the past, priests really had no choice, no TLM. . But it seems like 2 ships drifting farther apart and one can no longer straddle the 2 or hop back and forth. You have to pick one. After a couple of years at a Trad parish I went a while in various N.O. parishes for Mass, and it's getting worse. The WOKE content obviously forced into the sermons, my parish growing up stripped of the beautiful altar and statues. It looked big and barren, it felt not holy at all. Funerals where the priest is talking with certainty about 2 separate people who died bOTH being in heaven...SO different from my mothers Trad funeral where prayers and Masses said were so emphasized. I still saw 2 priests that seemed really devout. But one of the chapel dedicated too the Blessed Mother, had the large Sacred heart statue moved to a cubby in the very back. I had to search for it. In its former place on the altar is a tacky Divine Mercy print. There ARE still some good ones there, but I don't think that they are allowed now to even say the TLM. I get the feeling a couple of them are doing the best they can. Not sure they can make the switch?? Before I moved I almost walked out of Mass when the devout priest was obviously required to say something stupid about Francis fawning all over Martin Luther for the 500th. He just said my hubby's VERY devout funeral, (he was very strict about it- so I stayed. But soon moved away.) I don't know, though, if it would be a sin to attend a wedding of N.O. Mass ?? What do you think? Or a funeral? (but if priest says they are in heaven, that's a problem.)
Please pray for the good priest fr Martinez to searve Gods people well and to learn English fluently! Thank you!
Sorry, John, it's not 30 percent that don't believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist, but only 30 percent that DO. That means 70 percent DO NOT believe. This is the poll result. And this is the crisis of faith. Sadly, only now do the bishops make a move, but I guess we ought to be grateful.
Where did this poll take place including which country/ries and how and who did they approach? Was it leaving Mass or in the street for instance, every 1 issue poll should have full disclosure including the exact wording of the question.
What happened to the cup? Was it cancelled for the laity?
Gallup Poll and Pew Research.
Presumably the male escort who outed his clients is hoping to make enough money to never have to work again ? As I imagine he will never work at his profession again.
How in the world will Jesus’s Church ever survive?! Oh I know....Jesus said so!
The Financial Times says that in the Vatican it's not 'who you know' but 'what you know about who you know'. Also that financial ignorance seems to be a necessity for any access to Vatican funds.
How could you expect moral leadership from this group?
Church of Rome has been morally bankrupt since it was invented. Trust the KJV Bible, not the pope.
The cowardice of the bishops shines brighter then ever
I learn so much from this channel. Seriously.
I hang on to my faith despite its current punched up condition and consider JA's show to be as restorative and energizing as a blood transfusion. The institutional church has often resembled an Italian comic opera in extremis and I thank heavens for John Allen's honest and whimsical libretto.
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If one-third of American Catholics do not believe that the bread and wine is truly the body and blood of Jesus Christ, then they are not being instructed properly when young or if accepted into the Church at any other age. Tragically, the respect given the host over the years has faded from being the true presence of Jesus Christ to just the breaking and sharing of bread like at Jesus' Passover dinner table.
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PROSTITUTION IS A STATE OF MUTUAL CONTEMPT. IF THE PROSTITUTE FEELS THAT THEY NEED TO "OUT" THE PRIEST--THEY SHOULDN´T BE IN THAT CAREER IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE PROSTITUTE AVAILS THEMSELF TO THE CUSTOMER AND THEN CHASTIZES THEM ONCE THEY ARE HOOKED. A VERY BAD ACT.
The problem with surveys by secular pollsters always comes down to the question. If you only give the self-described RC a choice of corporeal body and actual blood cells or nothing, it makes the result flawed. At the very least it complicates the instructional task ahead. Do the non-believers adopt the view of most evangelicals: communion is purely a memorial of the Last Supper? Do they adopt a Calvinistic view that Jesus is present, but only in a sacramental and spiritual way? Do they take a receptionist view that Jesus is present body and blood but only for those who worthily believe and only at the moment they receive the elements? Do they take a Lutheran view that Jesus is actually present body and blood but so are bread and wine. If you only know they don't accept RC dogma, your instructional task is monumental. This is the 21st century. You can't simply say this is RC Eucharistic dogma and shake a fist at them.
Thank you so much 💓 💗 God bless you 🙏
Your summary begs, what seems to me, an obvious question: When has transparency ever been a defining characteristic of an absolute monarch whose very election prides itself on utmost secrecy? Platitudes aside, can’t we just get real here? There is absolutely no reasonable expectation of transparency here. There is simply no reason to believe that governance of the temporal affairs of the Church is now or ever was transparent.
Be it ever so humble, there's no place like Rome!
What is going on with our Priests?? I have been aware of Gay Priest for years, but I had no problem with it . I always thought as long as they didn't go against the Vows they took they were no different than a straight Priest , they too were supposed to hold to the VOWs they took !! Now one hears of broken Vows all over the place !! Even Bishop's and higher ups are throwing the Holy Vows into the garbage!! It is Heartbreaking to hear of this!! ! What is going to happen to the ones that have broke their Vows ???
Forget bishops it goes higher .....Cardinals too .... remember cardinal Mccarick is already in court for homosexual sex with underage boys ......that's not all the bust came when someone tipped the Vatican police and priests bishops and Cardinals were caught having a sexual orgy in the Vatican mind you ....how pathetic ....St Padre Pio was right the smoke of Satan entered the church with Vatican 2
Pray for them, all of them. Pray all 4 mysteries of the rosary daily for them. Its easier than saying 1! Also, I do it first thing when I get up before breakfast. It takes me a little over an hour. I say the virtual rosary on you tube, but you must really consecrate on the words and mysteries from the heart. God bless and keep you. Please pray for me and my son john and my family!
Let them feel it in the collection basket !!!!!
Good job, John Allen Jr.!
The lectionary currently in use has eliminated the verses of 1st Corinthians 11 that warn about unworthy reception of the Eucharist. Restoration of those verses, with adequate catechesis, could do much more than printing another document that few will read and fewer will heed.
Jesus gave the power to priests when saying do this in memory of me,that’s when the holy communion becomes our lords body blood soul and divinity at the main part of mass, The Consecration, so I have never ever heard of a person saying it is only a piece of bread.enough said.
@@l.j.1163 Have you heard of The Last Supper ?
The Catholic and Greek Orthodox false doctrine of "transubstantiation" teaches that the bread and juice undergo a change to become the literal body and blood of Christ.
"And when Jesus had taken a cup and ***given thanks*** (Catholic transubstantiation happens here), He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for ***this is My blood*** (Orthodox transubstantiation happens here) of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. “But I say to you, I will not drink of this ***fruit of the vine*** (Jesus still called it juice) from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”" (Matthew 26:27-29)
1. Transubstantiation teaches the bread the juice for the Eucharist miraculously changes into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus.
2. Orthodox say the grape juice changes into literal blood at the “prayer of thanksgiving” before the proclamation “this is my body”.
3. Catholics say the grape juice changes into literal blood at the proclamation "this is my body" after the prayer.
ONE VERSE REFUTATION #1: If you carefully read Mt 26:27-29 above, you will notice that after Jesus “gave thanks” and proclaimed “this is my blood”, Jesus himself refutes both RC and Orthodox because he then afterwards called it “fruit of the vine” not blood. This utterly collapses and refutes, with no chance for rebuttal of any kind, the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches.
BONUS REFUTION #2: The fact that Orthodox and Catholic BOTH CLAIM their ritual is direct apostolic authority, example and tradition, BUT they practice TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, proves transubstantiation is a human false doctrine invented in the 4th century AD.
A. Transubstantiation is a false doctrine for the following reasons:
No Bible verse teaches transubstantiation. Supposed proof texts put forward by Roman Catholic and Orthodox advocates are most naturally seen as proving that the bread and juice were symbols of the body and blood. To see transubstantiation in these texts requires one to strain the text as much as our mind.
Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as, "fruit of the vine". If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood". This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice.
In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated. 1 Cor 11:26-27 proves transubstantiation wrong because Paul calls the loaf, "bread" after both Roman Catholics and Orthodox say the "change" was supposed to take place. Catholics make Paul a liar by calling the loaf "bread" rather than what Catholic false doctrine claims it was: Literal Flesh.
In 1 Corinthians 11:25, Jesus said literally that the "cup was the covenant". So which is it? Is the it the juice that is the covenant or the juice that is the blood? Is it the cup that is the covenant or is the cup the blood?
In 1 Cor 11:26-28, Paul instructs us to "drink the cup" instead of "drink the blood". The Holy Spirit would not use such a figure of speech as "synecdoche" (referring to a part for the whole) if such a literal transubstantiation was actually taking place. To use a symbol when such a literal change is taking place is unthinkable.
Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus instituted Lord's Supper before his blood was shed and body broken! He spoke of His blood being shed, which was still yet future. This proves it was a symbol.
The very record of historically, (Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Cyprian and Hippolytus) which the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches love to quote as authority, proves that before 200 AD, the church viewed the bread and juice as symbols. Conversely, the earliest historical hint of transubstantiation was in the 4th century.
Obviously Jesus words, "this is my body" should be taken symbolically because it falls within a long list of symbolic statements Christ said: "I am the bread," (John 6:41), "I am the vine," (John 15:5), "I am the door," (John 10:7,9), "I am the good shepherd,"(John 10:11,12), "You are the world the salt, (Matthew 5:13), "You are the light of the world the salt, (Matthew 5:14)
The apostasy of withholding the Cup: Roman Catholics, in the 1415 AD Council of Constance, decreed that the laity could no longer drink of the cup, but the bread alone. This is completely contrary to Scripture and the earliest church traditions. Jesus' own words are "drink from it, all of you" Matthew 26:26 and in Mark 14:22-23 it says "He gave it to them, and they all drank from it." The Greek Orthodox church does not withhold the juice.
The Greek orthodox church violates the Bible pattern by using leavened bread, whereas Roman Catholics use unleavened bread, just as Jesus did, (Matthew 26:17) and the Bible records in 1 Cor 5:7-8. Both Roman Catholic and Greek orthodox churches violate the Bible pattern by using leavened wine, instead of unleavened grape juice.
The Greek orthodox church violates the Bible pattern by using a "communion spoon" to dip into the cup to retrieve some wine-soaked bread. The Bible pattern for the Lord's Supper is that the bread and juice are not combined, but are two separate steps of "Holy communion".
We wonder why Roman Catholics and Orthodox doubt God will grant his full grace and love in the symbolic elements of the bread and the juice? Why is it so hard for them to believe that He grants us the full grace of His Body and Blood via symbols? The water of baptism washes away sin: Acts 2:38; 22:16. You don't get your sins forgiven until you are immersed in water! Water is a symbol of the blood that literally removes sin. For Roman Catholics and Orthodox to believe in "real presence", is as logical as the idea that water of baptism turns into literal blood!
I'll reiterate what others have said vis. the pew survey, namely the your numbers are inverted, 70% do not hold the faith of the Church regarding the real Presence. Also, bless your heart to suggest that lack of transparency is a bug in this papacy and not a feature.
Id like to take a close look at that whole survey
It's context and particularly how the question was phrased.
$24 Million. LOL Both liberal and conservative practicing Catholics ARE NOT AT ALL HAPPY about this waste of money. Stupid move on The Bishops' part.
Merry christmas happy new year god bless amen
I will not say one word about this lack of transparency.
I just found Crux and I like what I’m hearing!
It is so sad that our Holy Father is so far off the Catholic faith and teachings that he looks so kind and so gentle 😢 It looks so likable. Some Christian ✝️ believe literally handily with serpets 🐍 without being bitten. Other Christains believe literally laying of hands on the sick, and you be cure of illness and do not take medication. Catholics do believe literally in the miracle of changing the unleavened 🍞 bread and 🍷 wine into very body and blood of Jesus Christ fully present in soul and divinity by the consecration of Priests of the Catholic Church ⛪️ not evidences to our senses
John Allen is always the go to person for any news in the Catholic Church and the Vatican! Along with Tom Reese and Jim Martin you learn all you need to know!
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I wouldn't put John Allen in the same category with those wolves in sheep's clothing.
Kirin, God love you!
What a sour week for Pope Francis!
Don't forget to give us updates of all these nuggets in future chats!
Viva Papa!
Really! I'm NOT vivaing THIS Papa .
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"Blowing off the whistle blower," in a story about a gigalo? Maybe not the best phrasing in a Catholic newsfeed.
Most priests are good ..
And they can't say anything lest they get "the treatment".
That is very true, there are very Holy ,good priests .. many…! Thanks be to God for them, I know few of them .. their only concern ,The Holy Church and the souls…..very sad to see what few others do to their reputation. We should pray for them.. more , care for them, love them that is the only way.
We had a priest that was loved by all. The best of the best. Everyone agreed, EXCEPT the altar boy that was having sex with him. You have no idea what you're saying.
To call this news "delicious" is disgusting, makes a mockery of the Catholic Church & fits in tone with the scandals.
Our bishops are worse than wimps. A word used for small cats describes them best, and I don’t mean kitties.
I watch you every week. It helps keep me informed about the Church beyond my parish.
This is not new awareness as there are numerous books relating to this situation...
These Vatican city people have no fear of God!!
God will not be mocked and I would not want to be within 100 miles of the Vatican, when gets it's from God!!
Present day Vatican is nest of rattle snakes.so called educated suited and booted still give these APOSTATES credibility.
any skeletons in J.A's closet
Pope Francis would do well to stay as far away as he can from the trial. Any hint he's even indirectly influencing the outcome and you can say goodbye to his reforms
John is wrong. The presence in the Eucharist is not “physical” and the church has never claimed it to be so It is substantial , real and true, but not physical. If the church is cold in winter , the cerebrum does not need a wool hat, when the priest breaks the consecrated host Jesus does not cry out in pain. The sacramental presence is a different mode of being , it is True, Real and Substantial , but not physical.
Learn the teaching of the Church on the bodily and corporeal Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist after consecration, Mr. Allen! Jesus is not physically present as He is in Eucharistic miracles. Jesus is wholly present after transubstantiation, but you cannot take a microscope and find heart tissue and blood. He is hidden. Transubstantiation does not usually involve biology, except in Eucharistic miracles.
Perhaps if people were more aware of the many Eucharistic miracles, past & even present that abound.....they would believe......If confession became 'a real thing', something needed/stressed/available.....If sermons stressed 'real presence' more...it would help! To me the main thing that sets Catholics apart from other Christians is the Belief in the Real Presence of Jesus in Communion! So sad that so few even believe it !🙁
Per eucaristic coherence: the usccb has a fundamental option for Democrat party, with exception of few bishs
Mystery Babylon
The first street in Cebu, Philippines was named by the Catholic Church in the early days of Spanish colonization in the 16th century as "COLON" and after that Catholic priests would always prefer to sniff the odor of the same while alone or in groups!!!
If I believe in trans-substantiation, then I believe that I am eating human flesh. Isn't that what they call cannibalism?
Nice pitch. Yes, it certainly is cannibalism IF it is the non-resurrected flesh and blood of someone else who does not have the status of having created this world including your own flesh and blood and then requesting that you eat his in order to receive eternal life. 🤠
@@danielyoung5137 So if we believe a myth and a legend it is okay. Got it.
Symbol is one extreme. Canibalism is the other extreme. The Eucharist is at the midpoint between these two extremes.
Nothing to do with midpoint…It is the glorified flesh and blood of the Risen Christ into which the bread and wine is “transubstantiated” ( a great word, that one). No cannibalism of mortal human flesh is involved!
@@williamj-t2n Haha! Both mental and semantic gymnastics.
There is a bad always rottem apple In a bunch not surprise in the.vatican.hope and pray that are all .weed out.sooner for the church sake
Sad to say our church is FUBAR.
Useless bishops meeting
Gee John do you think the "spirit of Vatican2" is it at work here?
Love watching this weekly. Just a small note about careful wording of Eucharistic theology. Word like “literally” and “physically” is not as precise as “substantially” or “essentially”, as the former are ambiguous in the philosophical realm, and although it metaphysically changes substance to that of the Body and Blood of our Lord, it remains under the appearance of bread and wine (save particular miracles).
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There needs to be an exact definition of 'escort' and 'gigolo' and 'prostitute' as well as 'services' availed of in this discussion.
Next time I hear a priest complain about moral laxity in society, I will recall this channel.
So the old boys get together to decide who should be denied communion. I thought we had confession to absolve our sins (in this case pro choice) so is it necessary to punish people who are sinning, supposedly? Hey boys, you are losing your power...much of which you have simply awarded to yourselves. We rank and file Catholics who are expected to monetarily keep the coffers full are heartily tired of your parent-child approach to dealing with us. We are moving on to dogmatic adherence rather than old men's lavish and private lifestyles rather than this is my decision adherence. You are on your way out.
Thank you for your reporting. #christnotcoverup
in the last 60 years, there has been a Massive Erosion of Faith and Piety among Catholics. There is no silence in the Church before and after Mass. Everybody is talking to each other. No one could pray in there, if they wanted to. Many people do not genuflect. And yet, EVERYBODY receives Communion, and hardly anybody goes to Confession. It has been so bad for so long. It may be too late for the bishops to do anything now.
the church must be taxed
The church must be taxed so they don't have anymore government inteference!
Better an adult escort than a boy, no good either though
Group think is a waste of time.
John is a wicked queen
Peter's Pence-- I take it literally and toss a penny in the basket.
Imperial Wizard?
Regarding the gigolo: 50 priests sounds like a lot. But this is Rome (I assume most of his "clientele" came from Rome). Rome is a company town if there ever was one. 50 priests in Rome is probably just a drop in the bucket! No story here imo
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Priest are not Specialty there.unknown of religion because their so into themselves
Why do you make your living spreading gossip about your Pope and Bishops. What end result are you working toward? Are we to judge Pope Francis? Do we know his motives and his intentions? Are the prayers of millions of faithful Catholics for him ignored? God will judge him. He doesn’t blink and He knows what he’s doing. Take your beautiful cashmere jacket, go home and stop speculating.
Francis showing his face in the US will find major protests against his disastrous and scandalous papacy.
To paraphrase Diderot, “Man will not be free until the last bishop is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”.
The rare Diderot-ism, which does not bore me to tears. But that may just be my opinion.
I imagine you are a lover of John Lennon noo deceased ! Wayward Howard ,I urge you to espouse such ,if you can ,in far off Pakistan!
What a horrifying quote !
Google Pope's audience Hall the Pope sits in the mouth of the Snake 🐍
Facts.
John Allen you seem to be sick! Go take some rest! Your news is boring.