The World Over April 11, 2024 | NEW VATICAN DIRECTIVE: The Papal Posse with Raymond Arroyo
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- The Papal Posse, Robert Royal and Fr. Gerald Murray join with analysis of the new Vatican declaration on "human dignity", directive this week to some controversy. "Dignitas Infinita" (“Infinite Dignity”), is a 20-page document released on April 8th. It deals with hot button social issues including gender theory, abortion, surrogacy and euthanasia and appears to affirm established Catholic doctrine on these matters...but concerns ARE being raised. Plus, Pope Francis takes a "new" title, and the Marko Rupnik scandal continues to develop, with 5 more victims coming forward with allegations of abuse at the hands of the disgraced Jesuit.
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The Church truly, truly needs holy and faithful Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, etc, etc.
The treatment of Rupnick is a perfect example of taliking a good game but not acting. People are not stupid. This type of inaction occurs again and again.
I see now the great need for prophets to rise up in the Catholic Church and set things right by preaching the truth like those in ancient Israel. If we are being honest, the Catholic Church is in a worse crisis than the Protestant Schism and Scandal caused by poor leadership like this.
Some.of us have been warning since the first eclipse due to dreams and or messages received in prayer. I even went to local.priests. no one is listening. We are nobodies and have no platform. They cancelles me for standing alone in my community against the agenda corrupting children in 2018 they ruined Mt life and still I prach to repent. God asked me to be a witness and so I am. This is my 2nd channel as the 1st caused me to get stalked online and in real-life. Regardless, So some of us are trying. Leg us all pray 7 sorrows daily as penance for all the baby martyred saints. 40 days after eclipse is the ascension date. We need to all repent.
@@highstrangeness1824agreed as repentance is the only pathway into Heaven through the grace and mercy of God. I have seen the terrible darkness and soul rending sorrow of Hell in a dream because my soul was in there and heading there until I started repentance of my 15 year long pornography and masturbation cycle on Easter Sunday in 2023 as Jesus appeared to me in that same dream and lead me out of it and into the Heaven clothing me in white and washing away my darkness with the white dazzling blinding light piercing my soul and calling me his friend speaking to me. Here I am in 2024 and have grown tremendously since then and know what it’s like to suffer sexually from addiction and depression the temptations still come but now this month a year later is the first time that I submit myself to God and do not let the temptation fester inside my mind and heart longer than it should. Have I stopped the sinning altogether? It’s a process that now a year later I never dreamed was possible because of the love of Jesus and intercession of Mary from the rosary.
The past 11 years have done great damage.
@@mikebolognese7134It’s longer than that with the child sex abuse scandal from the 60’s to now
@@mikebolognese7134longer that than with the child abuse scandals
I agree. We need holy and faithful priests, Bishops and nuns for evangelisation.
God Bless the Papal Posse! We need a billion more Priests just like Father Murray! He is a true Shepherd!
“God is not the author of confusion.” Corinthians 14:33. Bring your family to TLM and preserve Christianity for our posterity.
So, so true. God is NOT the author of confusion. All the godless agenda, confusion, division, hate, lies, falsehood such as man thinking is a woman, woman wanting to be a man such deceit comes straight from satan and his demons... there is no question and no doubt about it. It is coming straight from satan and his demons. Way too many people are spiritually blind and can not see The TRUE light and the reality of life and the TRUTH. Viva Cristo Rey. Jesus Christ Son Of The Living God is always the answer and the way to heaven which is our final destination 🙏
Many good things about the TLM, however, they are still under the authority of the local bishop and still under the directives of Francis.
@@mariachico4456 not all are. Mine is FSSP. Which is good. We are catechizing Catholics in the diocese. This is a good thing. The Catholic response is never to give in and give up. But to fight for conversion to Christ even when it’s not easy or deemed acceptable by the world. We have a true chance to be soldiers for Christ in our time.
You are missing the point. The FSSP is not a separate entity. If women become deacons, if SS blessings are the norm, the FSSP is part of that theology. If they resist, they will be shut down or need to become SSPX.
@@mariachico4456 yeah that’s definitely not true lol. I can tell you’re not a member of FSSP. FSSP operates completely different. They work only to the 1962 missal. They don’t have girl altar servers. They still wear the traditional garb. They’re a pre Vatican 2 church operating under the banner of Rome. It is our duty as the remnant church of Christ to stay and fight. That’s why we were called to this time. To cut and run is a Protestant thing to do.
The problem is that a lot of Catholics do not trust Fernandez and Bergolio anymore.
Excellent episode. Thank you!
Thank you for saying out loud what many faithful Catholics are feeling and why.
Faithful or believing?
God help and save us all around the world in Jesus Christ’s Name. “MOST PRECIOUS BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST SAVE US AND THE WHOLE WORLD “🙏✝️❤️
The great challenge for those of us still in the Barque is to FOCUS on JESUS CHRIST THE KING and three chapters of the Book of Revelation, 10-12.
Two wrongs does not make a right. Remove the wrong same sex blessing will right the wrong.
May God Bless you Raymond. I love this show
Oh my lord. The horror of it all.
I love Raymond with the Papal Posse.
Need to clean the swamp in the Vatican!
And who will come forth openly to lead this Action? and not hiding behind the media? to even use the language "clean the swamp" shows hmmm....
That’s been tried for hundreds of years 😂😂😂
"when the time of merit is over..." an important phrase; our choices are not infinite! .
Uh…yea they kind of are. They have everlasting consequences, good and bad. This is how they affect where we go after death.
Our choices do have consequences. No confusion for me personally about that. There are some things so plain and simple but unfortunately some people just don't get it. Some people think that we can do all the wicked crooked things and still be able to go to heaven but it definitely doesn't work that way. We must repent, confessed all our sins from the bottom of our hearts, stopped committing sins, do a deep act of Contrition, pray, pray, pray and pray. Amen 🙏
@@WashingtonDC99 I don’t know of anyone who “commits” sins and still thinks they’re going to heaven. Most people who commit “sins” in the eyes of the church don’t believe they’re sinning. For example sex outside of marriage. Many people don’t believe that’s a sin. Especially in long term relationships where a couple can’t afford or choose never to get married. Many couples stay together for life like that and even raise families and don’t believe it’s a sin. Some of them believe they’ll go to heaven cus they don’t believe they’re sinning and others may not even believe in heaven as Christian’s do.
I for one don’t believe premarital sex is sinful in every case. And I believe in heaven. I believe sins consist of far worse things than simple premarital sex. War, creating and supporting legislation that aims to harm people, especially children, the way a person treats homeless people and migrants, etc. Forget things like premarital sex that are far less harmful to people. Lets talk about the rage and anger and violence within families divided by politics and religion. Let’s talk about millions of children displaced from their countries and homes and without food. Let’s talk about the women and children in slavery, trafficked around the world, forced to work in unsafe conditions, and ultimately killed. Let’s talk about the global sexual abuse crisis within churches.
Raymond makes a good point about the pope addressing a man as his sister. Frightening.
I love watching this combo thank you for alerting the faithful of the heresies that francis and fernandez spew from their rotten mouths
WE MISSED YOU GUYS!!!!
Remember that the devil is tricky and he will give you what appears to be good and then when you are rejoicing in that he will sneak the evil in while you are focusing on something else.
Clear example of this is this "show"!!!
“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.”
As Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen said they look for a man-God to try to replace the God man. We can see clearly the "ape of the church..well at least many of us can see the signs of the times.
📖 *ISAIAH 5:20* KJV
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
➕️ GOD bless you
Great discussion. Thank you.
Excellent.
I no longer care of what the current pope is coming up with, so it great to hear more clever minds discuss, than I can even bother.
Thank you! Fr. Murray you've explained infinite dignity for what it is....Only God is infinite not man. I see the use of the Catechism is needed even more whilst in it's present form it can be a lifeline.
Many thanks to the Papal posse bringjng these discussions,information to the rest of the Catholics. Relying on our local parishes we hear nothing of current church news. However ,if current(the last 10 to 20 years) news reaches majority of our locals many would be scandalized and faith jeopardized
There are moments when I wonder how much theology is still understood by those in charge. What a mess.
Wait a second. If Original Sin didn’t mar our “infinite dignity,” why did Christ come? I can just see someone at the pearly gates protesting his/her being sent to hell, “But I have infinity dignity. Cardinal Fernández told me so!”
These three men are beacons of light in the chaos present in the world today
The Vatican 2 appears to be a new religion.
Thank you for speaking the TRUTH. those in Vatican speak with fork tongue causing confusion
No human being possesses infinite dignity, not choocho Fernandez or even Pope Francis. Only God possesses infinite dignity. We only possess human dignity.
Christ opened the way for us to possess infinite dignity by participation through His merits. Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect....
Confussion comes from the Evil one.
The law of non-contradiction applies here , the document can not be good and bad at the same time. Let's call it what it is and not try to put lipstick on a pig.
EWTN.
Needs to review : Are these people for Catholics or against.
God knows their heart...
its actually this particular program with ray as the host that seems hmmm, and this stlye of reporting has been going on for like 2-3 years. just listening to the "Leading" questions that he asks.. Esp with regurds to any subject matter that has our Holy Father mentikoned. But he is VERY smart with his phasing, just leaning slightly to biased
On this same exact current "news" other Host/Presenters from EWTN TV do not even have this "reporting stlye"
I believe they are asking appropriate questions where the Vatican is bringing confusion
Why is Rupnik protected ?
May God illumine you for how you paint the pope and the magisterium in a negative light
In Jesus Christ, we share the infinite dignity. INRIX
'Cept sometimes people do undignified things.
Viva papal posse!
Fr Murray papabile!
we trample our own dignity when we fall to certain acts.God and people can only accept it.one can regain it
I haven’t read the document due to availability.
Nevertheless, the title offends me because Infinite Dignity is reserved to Our Lord Jesus Christ and very closely beside His Blessed Mother Mary. It would appear, based upon the interview and subsequent dissemination ; that the Dignity of Man has now been elevated to God, which is a total error. Pray for the Pope, pray for the Church and pray for the discernment to avoid the snares of the hunter and from the evil word.
Mary was a creature like us but due to her participation in the merits of Christ was elevated to an infinite dignity. That's what her whole Magnifcat is about. She was the first to participate in Christ's merits at her Immaculate Conception. Followed by us. We possess an infinite dignity by participation
*ISAIAH 5:20* KJV
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
➕️ GOD Bless you.
It's easily available online.
These Documents Is Not From Church And Rome But From One mr Fernández And His Boss Mr Francis,
If They Can Not Change The Bible, There's Nothing They Can Do To Our Faith And Church. The Funny Thing Is That We Knew Where They Are Going, Yet They Thought We Will Go With Them Blindly. WE Are Sorry For Them.
Little is done to change things that need to change. Documents do not correct the wrongs occuring in this pontificate. Remove offenders and do not attempt to placate those offended with words. Action not words are needed. "Don't look at people say. Look at what they do". Cudos, Mr. Royal.
We hope so.
Where can we buy Mac Senise music?
Rarely hear Pope F call for Repentence.
“God is not the author of confusion.” Corinthians 14:33. Protect your family and attend TLM to preserve Christianity for our posterity.
Why not the Byzantine? Why this overly worship of the TLM?
Yet another dignity bomb! When evangelism diclines ambiguity inclines! Church government is off the rails. We must opt between the Magesterium and the Francisterium. The prime mission of the church is evangelization not obfuscation.
How do I unsubscribe?
How can one elevate something that is infinite?
5:00 EXACTLY! We have dignity by virtue of our being created by God, for God, and in His image. We can mar our own dignity by sin.
JPII was a poet as well as a theologian/philosopher. He often used poetic language but he was not misunderstood because he also knew when & how to be crystal clear.
Unbelievable. Does anything satisfy Raymond?
There's a clear agenda against Pope Francis here. Question is, who's agenda is it? Usually these kind of people you see are hired guns, someone is paying handsomely.
Well this document is not satisfactory
He seemed "satisfied" before Pope Francis.
All of this posturing, hemming and hawing amongst church leaders. Simply blow the dust off the Bible and talk scripture. It doesn’t take a scholar to know that the Pope and his allies are wrong. It’s time for good men like bishop Strickland to organize and split from him.
As a chosen Catholic (meaning I chose to study in RCIA and be baptized) how can I witness to others with all the controversy within the church? How can I encourage others to come to the church when sexual abuse by priests continues to be ignored? How can I stay with a church that does not take firm action with all men who mistreat others under the guise of priesthood?
You have to remind them that Christ started the Catholic Church and if anyone contradicts the teachings and precepts Jesus gave us then they are most likely one of the wolves.The Church itself is perfect and it will always be because it came from Christ who is perfect.
Ok, thanks for this; but , and I mean no disrespect, as I am learning, how do I navigate between the gospel and real world issues like abortion, homosexuality, divorce. These are real issues that so many are struggling with (thankfully I am not) but I understand their viewpoints. Would Jesus not allow them into the church? I believe He would.
Simply put to be a Catholic you must believe in all of the teachings of the Church. For someone to say I want to become Catholic but still believe in abortion or other sins that are contrary to the church is really the core issue. I'm no theologian but that's just what I understand as a lifelong Catholic. Just keep trying your best at telling people to repent and accept and embrace the Gospel ❤
Thanks for this. BE well.
You too ❤
Not surprising...the Catholic Church is one of several heterodox offshoots of the (original) Orthodox Church: the Assyrian/Nestorian, the Coptic, the Syrian Jacobite, and the Catholic.
People like Arroyo seem to argue that the pope should be respected and obeyed, unless the pope says something Arroyo disagrees with, at which point Arroyo and his posse are the true arbiters of the faith, not the pope. I read a study some time ago that concluded that political beliefs are deeper held than religious ones. That people choose the faith that best aligns with their political beliefs, not the other way around. Catholics who praise the magisterium when it aligns with their beliefs and opinions, and accuse it of heresy when it disagrees with them seem to prove the point. I guess we don’t need a magisterium when we have Pope Arroyo to tell us what is the truth.
The Church is absolutely wrong on so many things. Beginning with its treatment of people like me.
UA-cam Senator Kelly asking about it, that’s how I learned
Fr Gerald Murray has to be one of the most uncharitable clerics I have ever encountered. It’s almost as if he is from Central Casting
Won’t calling the Pope “Patriarch of the West” risk causing difficulties for those Catholics living in eastern countries, particularly those with strong anti-west bias?
They are spoken about as homosexuals, not people that need to live their life, contribute as a member of society,
They do not need to be priests however.
"higher vocation"?
“Logic deals with concepts and the modes of knowing, whereas grammar has to do with words, either spoken or written, and their various modes of signifying concepts. There is, however, a close connection between grammar and logic, because the modes of signification studied by the grammarian correspond to the modes of knowing studied by the logician. And since the modes of knowing in turn are based upon the modes of being, which are the concern of the metaphysician, it is clear that grammar is ultimately grounded upon reality and upon metaphysics...for the grammatical modes of signifying can be explained only by recourse to the ways in which the mind thinks and ultimately to the ways in which things are.” [Medieval Philosophy by A. A. Maurer C.S.B. pg. 252] Wanting something to be other than it is either requires the power and will to change reality or the willingness to accept deception as reality.
I hear, 'Im a person,'
There's no case, just, 'Im a person'......?
Perhaps we have infinite dignity as referential to God.
For 1,000 years the Church was governed by the pentarchy of patriarchs, the first being Old Rome. To have retired the tithe Patriarch of the West was just one more indicating that the papacy wants to “go it alone.” That’s what caused the East-West schism in the first place. Catholics talk a good game vis a vis reunion, but can’t bring themselves to give up the notion that the bishop of Rome is the sole source of ecclesial authority. As long as this is the case, it’s true: Patriarch of the West is a meaningless title, despite its antiquity.
You need to be born again while there is still time!
Sorry,
Can they confirm that we do this for the minority.
Does this make sense?
The next morning, we still do this for the minority, on an important morning other things have to be done,
The “DM” behind “My” Name Stands
For “DOGMA MILITANT”!
I would presume that the word 'infinate' is used to define the fact that we, as in our souls, will live forever in Heaven. I that case, the term would apply. Everyone knows we all die, but our souls live on forever.
Eternal .. immortal .. mortal.
Infinite .. finite.
God alone is eternal.
Human souls are immortal.
Jesus said to obey what the Pharisees said not what they do. Also upon this rock l will build My Church i.e. the Church belongs to Jesus not to any Pope. He must teach only what Jesus taught not make his own version.
Can I then switch the other person's up.. and so on, and so on, I could make this story my own.. if I switched it up enough...
Why do they keep producing controversial documents?
Isn't the Bible sufficient?
The Bible does need interpretation. Sadly, these documents confuse instead.
If it was sufficient, there would be one, single, united, Protestant Church. Rather than 30,000 , some believing exactly the opposite of others on fundamental doctrines.
You’re creating a negative within the a positive
The best thing at this time was not to write about the infinite dignity of man but to write revoking the bizarre document of blessings to those in irregular situations worse of all same sex relationships. It is so scandalous the church wants to be too merciful at the detriment of the 99 sheep. Truth is not a cultural thing. What is true in Africa should be true in Europe and all over. The best thing Card. Fernandez should do at this time should revoke the previous document.
I totally agree!
This document is a run on sentence of heresy decide under half truths.
Rome heirachy starting to sound like Washington DC swamp
As creatures created in the image of God we have infinite dignity. The question is how we respond to such dignity.
We're human; nothing of ours is infinite. God alone is infinite. We do have human dignity.
We are finate
We have dignity as creatures of God, made in His image and likeness, but only God Himself is infinite.
Cardinal Fernandez is very clever. In announcing, formally, that the Pope will ever teach definitively on matters of faith and morals, invoking the dogma of Papal Infallibility, he seeks to make it impossible for the Pope to be charged with heresy, whatever he might say. Then, he goes on to say that, while everything which the Pope might say is only his own private opinion, not in any way altering the existing teaching of the Church, nevertheless, he is the Pope and the Faithful are expected to follow his lead, in the interests of unity in the Church, by adopting his personal opinions as his own. As he has stated earlier, there is the “Theology of Tradition” and the “Theology of Francis” and the Faithful are expected to discard the first in favour of the second. So, we have Cardinal Roche stating that the Tridentine form of the Mass represents a previous Theology. There is now a new Theology, so the TLM is now outdated and must finally be set aside. This is in direct contradiction to what the Council stated in paragraph 4 of the Introduction to Sacrosanctum Concilium, which required all existing forms of the Liturgy to be reverenced, respected and preserved. However, Pope Paul VI began this new approach. He approved a new form of the Mass which went beyond the changes contemplated by the Council, setting a new approach. The Church is to be led by the personal views and preferences of the Pope for the time being. A great idea when we had Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. Now, however, having established this tradition of a Church whose Theological emphasis is to be set by the personal preferences of the Pope for the time being, we have departed from the certainties established by the Council of Trent. In Protestantism, every man is his own Pope. Now, in the Catholic Church, every Pope is his own Ecumenical Council. There never will be another Council. No need. A Pope may simply set up a Synod, pack it with appointees with views the same as his own, make it clear what “recommendations” he requires from them and then he approves the recommendations of this supposedly “democratic” Synod.
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The shockument is the beginning of the end of the church.
I do not appreciate any of the speakers on this show
Eternal Hellfire awaits undignified conduct
dr taylor marshal shows a lor of Carl Runner in the idea od ID
Ok with " infinite" ? Why don't you rea t!!!!!!°
Do you really think that you can save our church by splitting hairs? How does that help?
If priests have abused anybody in thought and words or sexual now or years ago.
They know who they are
And they should give up their priest hood, God knows who they are and what their think every second of every hour. And they should carry the cross and start. Asking for mercy with their sincere heart.
Stop thinking your in the clear God sees everything knows your thoughts..
Have mercy on the fake Catholics that they have blessing and can go to heaven..for God you know their hearts
Amen.
The BIG LIE is in the title and the first sentence. Humanity always had, has now and always will have Infinite Dignity which can NOT be lost or reduced or eliminated. Which sounds to me like putting Humanity equal to God at the least. Which clearly means NO ONE is in HELL or can go to Hell. SIN dosen't exists. The 4 last things Death,, Judgement, Heaven or Hell are a bit pointless really if you take this document to its logical conclusion. All the rest of it is titbits for to munch over as long as the LIE was got in.
Is the declaration binding?
Thank God for Fr. Murray, always a calm, rational voice of wisdom and truth. How can it then be that a Cardinal like Fernandez can speak confusion and teach false compassion from The Vatican to the entire world? This, in itself, is an example of disordered thinking at the highest levels to me. Not only confusing, stressful and exhausting year after year but genuinely frightening. He needs to go back to study Aquinas. Although I doubt he thinks the Angelic Doctor has anything remotely relevant to say. Horrid.
I remain grateful for my graduate theological education with the Jesuits and Clinical Pastoral Training in a Jesuit medical center. I’m grateful for spending more than half of my career in professional chaplaincy in Jesuit institutions. However, I was seriously concerned when a Jesuit was elected Pope. I’ve not had a truly peaceful, day looking in the direction of The Vatican since.
why is it almost all the 'news' segments by Raymond is so bais and always tilted towards against our Holy Father ? hmmm
Francis is raising eyebrows for a reason and it's ok to say hey what's up with that?
@user-iu3in5ui6z no arguments there. but the other rising eyebrows thing is < why is it that this particular news segment is almost always titled againest , not even a netural position. And the framing of the question in itself is leading. About 1.5 yr ago , I actually enjoyed watching his program, but as I started to watch other ' channels ' that's whe1n this obvious bias is becomes clear.. Or maybe it's my own bias, to which I apologize.. but shouldn't unity be our end 'goal' ? or is another aim? cheers
Too much evangelism and little faith.
I pray that you and all priests bishops and cardinals are blessed and have your mercy and they can go to heaven. You know their hearts. They fool us earthly catholic people but they cannot fool God..
And before you tell us details of the human infinite dignity.
Speak to who the people you are trying to make look bad.
Are you really Catholic.......
This news is bad..
How could be solid Catholic teaching when does not quote Dignity as a gift from. GOD'S creation? How about: "live as you want and behaving as you please" you cannot lose your dignity no matter how SINFUL YOUR ACTS ARE! WOW
The Pope is infallible
.. in teaching faith and morals only when speaking ex cathedra
Pope Francis has never done that
Francis is not really a pope so it doesn't apply to him
Shouldn't smoochie Fernandez be more focused on the art of kissing?
Idk ur book 😂😂😂😂😂 but dont it say a angel is goin to come down an take down the city of .man the well the rich the living well ?? In the cross it says. NR but double phrase u think hell dont know in hell ur bodies are snitching. If u would have ull hear them sayi g their i cant take this shit he sound black if ur son famiky in u think safe zone. Ahhh hahaha
Original Sin? St. Augustine of Hippo. A human belief not a fact. Jesus, Christ never used that term. In fact John 9 is worth reading and reflecting on.
The Church has a Is tainted history. Humans trying to understand God. We make God to have our own way of thinking. shsme on us.
Genisis , the creation ssys it Beautifully, It was good❤
We think God , the Creator of all we see, this world and beyond is petty like us. I don't think so.
I Appreciate , Respect and Love Pope Francis for his understanding of LOVE & Forgiveness. Love thy neighbor is crucial .
God isn't us
God ia not religion or Christianity.
Stop acting like Cayapus!
This should be called the Papal pessimists. Do you guys do anything but be agitators
It is about time Cardinal Dolan excommunicated Fr (Mr) Murray...
For what?
Take your ball and go home
What???
When Fr Murray was ordained he vowed obience to Episcopal Authority. He can slag off Cardinals and the Pope... in doing so he rejects his ordination and catholicity