Modeling Ballast and Mud on our Model Logging Railroad
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2021
- This week we are finishing up the dirt.. Mud, ballast, sawdust.. Sawdust?? Well it's a logging railroad so yes, SAWDUST!
We are using Sculptamold modeling compound. Often we also use Celluclay, similar yet totally different. Both can be colored with acrylic paint and have dirt or sand added for texture. We have several videos on building our model railroad on this playlist covering the use of these products:
• Building our 1/20.3 sc...
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AND we use "squirrel dirt" and "gopher dirt". Ground squirrels are fun and cute, as long as they are NOT in your yard tearing up your lawn, but we love to visit the thousands of them that live along the UP mainline in Echo Canyon.They are underground most of the year, but in the spring they come up and say hi! And beg for chips and nuts... So we feed them and take home the redish brown dirt they dig up. Already a loose power it great for modeling. We sift it through a kitchen strainer and use it on the layout.
We also use "golpher dirt". OK same thing, only from the golphers that destroyed Steve's lawn. They dig up rich black soil. Great in the forest on the logging railroad.
The question come up, why not just dig up dirt with a shovel??? What's with the little critters? Well, yes there is a poop problem, but they do all the hard work. No rocks, no roots. Just loose fine dirt... And after straining, no poop...no rocks, just super fine dirt that makes great mud.. and scale dirt.. AND mixes with either the Sculptamold or Celluclay!! Or can be pressed into the wet Sculptamold or Celluclay.
AND we use Yellow Dextrin. From the web:
"Yellow dextrin is manufactured by partially hydrolyzing Starch, using the dry roasting method in the presence of a catalyst. Yellow dextrin has low viscosity and is very sticky and hygroscopic in nature. ... Yellow Dextrin Powder is in the form of fine dry powder ranging from light to dark yellow and dark brown in color."
It's used in glue among other uses. If it gets even a tiny bit wet it gets sticky and fluid. It drys hard and mostly clear. We mix it with any loose power like dirt and spray it with a mist of water or alcohol and it grabs whatever surface it's on and stays there! Ofter loose dirt wants to run off making a real mess. This fixes that! And can be all you need to keep loose powers in place forever. If you have larger chunks you still need to follow up with diluted white glue from a dropper. Or Woodland Scenics landscape cement. - Навчання та стиль
Hi Dale & Karyn. I really love how you can take what you see in your mind’s eye and made it happen. That is such a gift!!! Thanks for sharing!!! See you Tuesday!
Since i just acquired a G scale locomotive, this has become more of an inspiration for a future railroad in the large scale.
Dale and Karen: You have no idea how much your modeling techniques on the railroad have helped me and my wife. We are currently re-building our massive deck off the back of the house and these pointers transfer VERY WELL to 1-1...and to Slot Cars. Just sayin'. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. Now on that deck.. we are tearing out some of the garden railroad as the decking is wrong... so pointers there for sure.
Looking goooooooood! 👍✌️😊🙏🏼🚂🚂🚂🚂
Always entertaining and informative.👍
As much as I love the American style early railroads. My eyes always drawn to the early British stuff. Living close to old victorian stations started Mt love of trains:)
Hi Gromit! Love the “Wrong Trousers”. But more the floor railroad! We are back to having he odd Grand Day Out as the pandemic is mostly over over here. But look at all the work we’ve done on the railroad! The Pandemic Short Line? Anyway yes love British locomotives! It’s the colors that drive me wild.
@@ToyManTelevision glad you've got the chance to get out more :). I live in Bristol not far from the studio that made Wallace and growing!
It is looking really good. Can't wait to see it with vegetation on the layout. It always brings it to life with trees, shrubs, wild grass and water. Be safe and looking forward to Tuesday.👍🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Hi. Yes first up static grass. We’ve never used it before so learning curve ahead. Watching lots of video on UA-cam..
When I used to walk along the tracks anywhere in Weber Canyon I always noted all of the cinders alongside the tracks. I've seen the Big Boys used for pushing Diesel units up the hill. Memories! Kayren you mentioned a wood burning stove! When I lived in Iowa many years ago we used corn cobes for our wood burning stove. Not much wood back there but lots of corn cobes. One of my jobs was to get a bushel basket full every morning.
I love that little 0-4-0! Now I know what to do with all the crappy school glue
Yeah during the pandemic at one point the only glue I could lay hands on was school glue. Used it once and then stuck it on the shelf because it is stringy crap! I guess it works for making slime. Anyway this was a great discovery that works better for ballast!
@@ToyManTelevision im gladly to because my club has had trouble redoing alout of Ballast on the layout
I really like that 0-4-0. 👍 Your scenery techniques are very realistic. It's coming together!
I can see how it takes days and weeks to just get one part done.. You both are doing a fantastic job and it shows..
I love learning tips and tricks! Great stuff you two! Have a good one! Thank you!
Lisa
Hello from Detroit Michigan brother
Nice job on the ballast . Rock castings turned out great 👍
I just stumbled upon you channel tonight. I really enjoy your craftsmanship and the banter with your wife.
Hi!! Thanks! We love screwing around with the layout and models! BUT we are vaccinated and ready to get out and ride some trains and stuff!! Stay tuned. (As they say)
Right now it looks like Calico Ghost Town near Yermo, CA in the Mojave desert. Spent lots of time in Yermo... working on the UP.
You got the look with the cinders… there would also be ash as well…good job!
I actually thought about using Ash from our barbecue! Definitely have not ruled that out!
I can get a lot of mole dirt and a wee bit of gopher dirt. The rest all live in the trees. Your RR is definitely coming to life and the glue type is a great idea.
Great groundwork! Regards Stephen.
Looking great. The Garden Annual is already out!! And I saw your article there.
I technique that I have used is to lay paint down first and then sprinkle dirt into it . Using the paint as the "glue "
Looks fantastic!
Thanks
Very nice Dale and Karen 🤠👍👍 two thumbs up! Siskell and Ebert
Una realizzazione veramente interessante vederla in tutti i particolari è un paesaggio realistico curato in tutti i sensi
It's looking fantastic! I just love your approach to scenery! ...Claude
Hi! Thanks! Green next... Started with static grass! I’ve never used it before. Talk about a learning curve! I think it should be a video!
Very nice.
Thanks
This episode felt almost like doing a 3-D painting! The results sure look nice, always such attention to detail +1
beautiful modeling, guys
saw dust ?
t did not think of that! cool
Looks really great. Fantastic!!! ❤️
Thanks!!
Great video car show we will be there
Very cool!
Great ideas.
The green stuff is kicking my but. But as if tonight it’s looking great 👍
awesome video Dale keep up the awesome work i am absolutely loving this video series!
I saw a video of a railroad ballasting there track and what they did is they had a hopper car with balast dumping on the track and as the train moved a tie across the track infront of the weels spread the balast and leveled it. It was very interesting.
Dale: This was awesome. Your scenery looks so realistic. Never boring always unique!
Top stuff I can't believe how good it looks ..... Mines started I'm using packing styrene foam and paper mache strips and it seems to be doing the job ... Plus some of your techniques.... Such a good feeling👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️
Super!!! Thanks!!
Thanks for the video. I just discovered your channel and the layout looks great!
while watching... i was waiting.... waiting yeah, that school glue (you didn't know?!) it's perfect for spritzing and watering scenery down - it's perfection... with glue to set everything ... heck you can use it on scenery trees when adding leaves or fall foliage! looks great... you're using a lot of backyard stuff... have you tried ground leaves?
I think woodland Scenics landscape cement is this with a splash of soap to break surface tension.
Thats looking really great, someday ill start doing model Railroading when get the money and room. the abandoned Railroad i mentioned earlier thats south of where i live, turns out it was Southern Pacific's South line. The SP acquired the line in 1924 from the El Paso and Southwestern RR. They ran the line until 1959, but the tracks wernt taken up until a year later. Ive found quite a bit of Railroad Spikes from the line and also from the branch lines...
OMG, check you guys out!!!! WBNDERFULF and you're paying lots of attention marvelously to detail... you make me so happy, watching and listening to you... thank you so much, arthur (Ngai)
Wow!!! Where are you?
Great how to 👍🏼👍🏼 I’ve used the crappy school glue for years just as you are using it for. Works perfect for scenery and ballast
I’m reasonably sure that’s what the Woodlands scenics scenic cement is. School glue deluded about 4 to 1, possibly 3 to 1 and a dash of soap added to break the surface tension. $10 a bottle for a bears or you can make a gallon of your own for half that.
cool Dale that you are boy scout, i am also old scout in mine country and i am also retirement of it but still i still love it :)
Its a dirty job but somebody's got ta do it... great look...
Nothing looks quite as good as dirt than dirt
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I honestly think you can make a product line of the various "dirts". I sure woud buy a bag of squirrel dirt. I'll exchange a squirrel cartoon logo drawing for a bag or two ;)
It’s a great way to keep track of the colors! May get some weasel dirt... whistle pig... rabbit 🐰
What did you use for ties? Looks very logging. Love the ballast! Are the ties available for HO or HOn3?
Sticks from the yard mostly. Sanded with a belt sander. Also some red cedar fence boards.
@@ToyManTelevision look fantastic!
What scale train and track are you using?
Apologies for the dumb question, but it looks awesome, and don't know much about it.
It’s gauge one. 45mm. 1 3/4 inches gauge. Most of our trains are 1/20.3 scale. So three feet in that gauge. Perfect 👌🏼! But some are 1/22.5 scale. Meter gauge. Great for European stuff but a touch smaller than our 3 foot stuff. But much is 1/2” to the foot. 1/24 scale. So much smaller. We run it all but never together. Looks silly to have a 120.3 loco pulling a 1/24 car.... the water tank is 1/20.3. And the depots are 1/24. But it mostly looks fine..
OMG lol, so many things to consider. Thank you for the info.
in grade scholl i had a entire new huge bottle explode onto my head, i was squeezing it and the noise drove the teacher crazy, but i snuck it back out and boom the lid came off, lmao, what a mess in my hair
Hey. What kind of glue do I use for my slag, so that way it won't spill all over the place
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We mix with yellow dextrin. About one part dextrin to four or five parts cinders. Or less dextrin. You can get it on the internet. It’s not common. It’s an ingredient in yellow glue. Super fine yellow powder. Gets sticky the moment moisture hits it. Let it dry. May need to follow up with dilute white glue.
So the dextrin does not attract bugs and vermin?
Nope. Just like glue.
What your engine house needs its own cat. ;p
Hi Rita. Karyn made one for the freight depot.. your right! She needs to make one for the locomotive shed!
If it's supposed to be from a wood burning engine maby you should have tried backing your saw dust a little to darken it up.
Thinking of adding ash from the barbecue 🍗
What is the mixture of dirt/yellow dextra??
Hi. Well I add it until I can see the yellow throughout the dirt. Im guessing it’s about 20 to 30% yellow dextrin
btw i am n scale
We have an upcoming show! Karyn is scratch building an in scale version of her grade school from memory! Try that one on for size! By size I mean N scale
My first thought on this video was the Ray Stevens video and song "Struck on me".
m.ua-cam.com/video/Z9Ul55QoLKE/v-deo.html
Thx again as always
That’s super. Super glue!
I think you enjoy saying "spritzs" way to much ;)