Big Trestle and Canyon Part Three - Upper Canyon Logging Railroad

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  • Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
  • In this video, we're following up on our large-scale Big Trestle and Canyon area of the model railroad at Garagemahal. In this part, we're building the Upper Canyon and Logging Railroad.
    The logging railroad was built last year, but we were unable to finish the final four feet, (1.5 meters) as it's part of the Big Canyon area. With the lower part of the canyon built AND the huge mirror in place, we can now move on with building the Upper Canyon.
    The first thing to be done in the workflow is to finish the track for the three-foot gauge logging railroad from the end of the track to the big mirror, 43 inches of finished track. The track is made from rough ties (sticks) for ties and Llagas Creek code 215 rail. The roadbed is thin plywood over extruded styrene foam insulation carved to look like sandstone using the technique described by Dave on the Thunder Mesa Studio UA-cam channel.
    Stay tuned for more videos in this series, as we continue building the layout!
    #modelrailroad #gscale #trainlayout

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  • @bobgevert
    @bobgevert Рік тому +5

    That canyon is the size of my bathroom!! Maybe I should model a canyon to fit in my bathroom!! OOOOHHHH and add an echo feature to it !!! Can't wait to see the next video!!

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone Рік тому +5

      May I suggest Z scale for monsieur?

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +4

      @@77thTrombone there are times when I wish I were still in N. Or HO. Or O. Been there done that. But I’ve given up the idea of a huge operating layout. I just love to build. I almost never run. So my point to point is fine. And while 200 feet of track seems like a lot, in F 1;20.3 will it’s not. That’s about 4,000 scale feet. Point to point. With a dead end at both ends. Someday a wye at one end and a turntable at the other. But the fun will be building those things. For now I just love whistling off and and running a hundred feet and backing up. Then back to building!!

  • @ToyManTelevision
    @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +2

    In 62 we were on our way to the Seattle Worlds Fair and stumbled across a dual gauge logging railroad on the Portland Short Line. Amazing.

  • @caseyvillemodelrailroad3877
    @caseyvillemodelrailroad3877 Рік тому +1

    Great vidio, Now that is going to be one grand canyon when she's done. Love the mirror. Thanks for the coffee...

  • @vettebecker1
    @vettebecker1 Рік тому +4

    Very cool, love how things are turning out. Great job guys

  • @robertweldon7909
    @robertweldon7909 Рік тому +4

    Hey folks, I've seen, and I'm sure you have too, that logging railroads would just lay the ties on the ground and pack dirt in around them on the temporary spurs. I'm quite sure that a 75 ton shay would settle any uneven tie problems quickly
    Last night I saw a video of the Roaring Camp and Big Trees railroad (April 2023 I think). It even showed the train climbing a switch back, on a very steep grade, very steep. Some trees were right next to the right of way. It may be worth a look, for some ideas.
    Speaking of switch backs, could there be one in the future connecting the logging railroad to the main line? Just hinting possibilities.
    Everything is progressing nicely. Now we get to see some more of your scenery building skill, which is massive ;-)

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +3

      We LOVE THAT RAILROAD. That switchback is, as I recall, 12%? Anyway they need to stop at the bottom and pump water from one tank to the other. (On the three truck). So that the amount of weight is best over each wheel truck. And they still end up backing down the grade and doing over about 1/3 of the time.

  • @loispadgett6306
    @loispadgett6306 Рік тому

    That is looking great am enjoying the build. I watch Thunder Masa also and have learned alot from him too. Have a great Sunday and see you Tuesday.
    GOD BLESS 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Dave has great technique. I’ve learned so much from him!!

  • @maccustoms2295
    @maccustoms2295 Рік тому +1

    Great video as always thanks for sharing. Good Sunday morning to you guys. Having some coffee and enjoying the show

  • @LearnwithJanice
    @LearnwithJanice Рік тому +1

    Hello from Kansas🇺🇸

  • @kenshores9900
    @kenshores9900 Рік тому

    Looking great. Understand why you waited on the installation of the mirror. That should be self evident. That canyon is looking fantastic. Rail on!

  • @ThunderMesaStudio
    @ThunderMesaStudio Рік тому +2

    Looking fantastic, Dale. And thanks for the shoutout!

    • @ThunderMesaStudio
      @ThunderMesaStudio Рік тому

      BTW, have you tried going over the carved foam lightly with a heat gun? It does a really nice job of locking in the texture and removing the loose bits. Also makes it much easier to paint!

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Hi!!! Yes I’ve been following your system as close as I can. Learning curve for sure. I bought a battery heat gun. Worthless. I now use it for heat shrink. So a bagged a good 110 heat gun. Works great. Except again learning curve. At first it did nothing. So I went to higher heat. And it took off all my carvings. So I’m learning. High heat. Keep the gun moving. Med heat at times. And I’m letting it totally remove carving in some places, like water erosion, and just knocking off the “fuz”. Works well. Now, paint. Thinking of spray a first coat of medium color enamel spray paint? I haven’t seen your videos on that yet…??

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      We were hoping to get to riverside. But gee. Can’t do everything. And we are at the flagstaff convention. So not Riverside. We bought a 1:8 scale mustang from a guy on eBay in riverside. And asked him to hold it until we can get there. We are in so cal often. I used to live in Ojai and NEED to get beck there from time to time. Anyway I was hoping to get the the riverside event. Sounds like a great time.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Ps. We can’t ship the mustang. Those DeAgastini models weigh like 25 pounds. And when we got one shipped from Russia it was broken badly. Fixed it, but really want to just pick up the Mustang in Riverside. 😊

    • @ThunderMesaStudio
      @ThunderMesaStudio Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision I use a flat latex applied with a brush. Spray enamels will likely melt the foam like Acetone does!

  • @detroitredneckdetroitredne6674

    Wow spectacular job 👏

  • @krissfemmpaws1029
    @krissfemmpaws1029 Рік тому +1

    That logging railroad looks very good, it looks like some of the logging roads I've traveled many of them were older railroad grades. I was lucky to have grown up in the 60s and 70s because some of the logging railroads were still being used in the area because of poor truck access.
    Because Dad liked to go exploring up in the hills we would hike the logging grades got to see the bridges, trestles and such. With log ties they could have been made ready for ties a couple of ways, some would take a slab off the log for the rail but if they had that equipment they would just cut the log into ties. Some would cut flat pockets into the logs for the rails others just spiked the rail to the log.
    One place I know of they put down a mat of hemlock logs to just to fill in the muck hole in the ravine. You could see the layers of logs that had been put down to keep the track from sinking out of sight.
    There are a couple of good videos out there of the early years of logging Vancouver Island you enjoy. It's not much different from logging the Pacific Northwest.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Great info thanks!!!

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      In 62 we were on our way to the Seattle Worlds Fair and stumbled across a dual gauge logging railroad on the Oregon Short Line. Amazing.

    • @krissfemmpaws1029
      @krissfemmpaws1029 Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision you are very welcome, I was lucky to have grown up around people involved in logging and commercial fishing so I got to see things others didn't.
      It wasn't till the late 80s that the old logging railroad spurs and crossings were pulled up and sent to China as scrap in Whatcom and Skagit County... thank you Whatcom & Skagit County and Washington State DOT. So much history and knowledge has been lost.
      Did you know Rolls-Royce can not reproduce the iconic engine that made them a household name here in America that being the Merlin!

  • @vincenthuying98
    @vincenthuying98 Рік тому +1

    Dear Dale and Karyn, awesome sleepers. Love how you’ve adopted Dave Meek’s technique. Beautiful windmill from Steve! Very interesting vid. Curious for your next episodes! Cheerio

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!!!! Yes slow going. But really looking good!! (We think)).

  • @lonewolfe31619
    @lonewolfe31619 Рік тому +2

    Now, this is really awesome. Please keep uploading the great content.

  • @gardenrailroading
    @gardenrailroading Рік тому +1

    Wow, Beautiful!

  • @lovepets2781
    @lovepets2781 Рік тому +2

    Its really been neat watching you guys getting this project together ,I really love way you take us through the steps . You guys are awesome and always so cheery :)

  • @kenshores9900
    @kenshores9900 Рік тому +2

    Your scenery is WOW, fringin awesome. Rail on!

  • @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
    @growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 Рік тому +1

    Well thought out. Excellent!

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!!! I think I just woke up. It’s late. Anyway THANKS!

  • @brettmariotte3343
    @brettmariotte3343 Рік тому +1

    Great work.

  • @Santafefrank
    @Santafefrank Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @royreynolds108
    @royreynolds108 Рік тому +1

    On the full-sized, an adze or broad axe was used to flatten off the timbers while ballast was used to adjust the elevation.

  • @pbyfr
    @pbyfr Рік тому

    Nice work. Lately, Dave finishing the carving with a hot gun, to melt the fuzzy things.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Yup. My first test melted everything! But I have it figured out. Yesterday I smoothed the upper cliff and it looks pretty good.

  • @garyacker7388
    @garyacker7388 Рік тому +1

    Perfection as always your work. I'm like you and I love a trestle. Great job guys

  • @tomas5376
    @tomas5376 Рік тому

    Looks like you have a mountain if work there!🚂🚂🚂

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Si! I’m up and down the ladder so much. Never thought I’d end up a mountain climber in my 70’s.

  • @mransr
    @mransr Рік тому

    That is a really ambitious canyon! And where in the world did you find that picture of Dave Meek? LOL

  • @jacobramsey7624
    @jacobramsey7624 Рік тому +1

    I love the opening song!! What is the name of the song?

  • @markdeschane4467
    @markdeschane4467 Рік тому

    Dave (Thunder Mesa) also used a heat gun to srt of round off the foam rocks after the wire brush texturing.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Yup. It’s taken a while to figure out exactly how to heat without wrecking the carving. But I have it figured out!! I think.

  • @frankhellman6879
    @frankhellman6879 Рік тому

    So is that the official name of the area? Huge Canyon?
    The part about the ties and track was very good. One thing perplexes me though. You make a great effort to spike every tie four times, but use sheet metal rail joiners, even though you've meticulously wired every rail. I would have bet my left kidney you would create and cast your own joint plates and glued a pair to one rail end at the joint for expansion if I know you'd be wiring every rail. Remind me not to bet my left kidney on anything. ;-)
    You've made amazing progress in a short period of time. Can't wait to see what's next up.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Yup. Have the castings. They go over the sheet metal. I like the micro engineering joiners to hold the rails in perfect alignment. And between too. Plan
      To have one every 40 feet. Need to make a mold… things to do…

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      I keep thinking about the name. Grand Canyon is taken. And huge canyon is a good working name but.. Cãnón de la rio Los Animus. Perhaps.

    • @frankhellman6879
      @frankhellman6879 Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision Grand Canyon is taken, but Garage Canyon isn't. haha

    • @frankhellman6879
      @frankhellman6879 Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision Thank Goodness! I thought you might be gettin' old! lol! OW! Dang! Too old to laugh now.

  • @bryantsemenza38
    @bryantsemenza38 Рік тому

    Outrageous…..simple outrageous….I think Bigfoot will be needed somewhere in that canyon.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      He’s already here! Just inside the finished logging railroad.

  • @fraxz88
    @fraxz88 Рік тому

    Being an N Scale modeler, i struggle to find good steam era stuff and parts. Temped to use ho scale items like spikes, castings, etc.

  • @markdeschane4467
    @markdeschane4467 Рік тому

    Dale, Did you find the spike heads to be too long and hits the headsof the rail? I found this to be the case with my On30 track.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Yup. I often need to turn them to get past the rail head. Then turn them back. Or angle them. But that often doesn’t work. The turning them works best.

  • @solarusthelonghaulerrailfa3226

    Hey guys are y’all going to connect the logging railroad with the main railroad

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Nope. There’s about 40” between there. And a helix or loop would need to be 10’ across. So can’t do it.

  • @davidwayneprins
    @davidwayneprins Рік тому

    what are your plans for the floor underneath the tunnel at the bottom of the canyon? Any plans for a river?

  • @blairgowrieforestrailwayan2786

    Ive been looking forward to how you were going to disguise the fact that the trestle is close to the wall. To me, because the trestle is close to the back wall, it makes the scenery far more challenging. The Timber Railroad tie reminds me of an old American movie about the construction of a railway. ua-cam.com/video/MM_UUB6J-Fw/v-deo.html

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. Will take a look. Yup. The canyon is huge but in this scale, tiny!

  • @iannarita9816
    @iannarita9816 Рік тому

    Your not tieing this up for another week?☺
    The again.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Oh gee… or much longer. It’s taking so long to build! But as it’s suddenly 80° I’m also going to get back on outside stuff. Oh and train rides!!

  • @normmcrae1140
    @normmcrae1140 Рік тому

    Check out Thunder Mesa's "Gruesome Gulch" build - It's both hilarious and cool!

  • @77thTrombone
    @77thTrombone Рік тому

    8:02 at this point, hoss - if that belt sander takes many more trips down the line - I'm starting to think popsicle sticks will have been the better option.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому +1

      It’s a handy tool. I sand all the roadbeds and many of the ties. It was a bonus for 5 years at work!

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision I was just joshing you. I can see it's handy: it definitely gives you a guaranteed flat.

    • @77thTrombone
      @77thTrombone Рік тому

      @@ToyManTelevision Rule for life:
      When you have a belt sander, everything needs smoothing!

  • @randysrockandrollrailroad8207
    @randysrockandrollrailroad8207 Рік тому +1

    😊

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 Рік тому

    I see LLagas Creek Rail source for silver nickle has closed !

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      Yup. Geese. Not sure what they do. I bought 3’ rail. But they are out of 6’. I’m sure they can figure it out. I have about 120’ of code 250 but the old profile. Won’t work with the tie strips. And about 20? Feet of the new code 250. But damn…

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 Рік тому

    No offense (as a fellow pensioner), but who thought it was a good idea for two pensioners to balance a big mirror on top of a step ladder (or two) and fit it themselves?!!! It's a great addition to the logging railroad as it goes off into infinity (and beyond!).

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      I think people have NO IDEA HOW BIG THIS IS. The scale makes the layout look small. People think the mirror is like 2 feet by two feet. Nope. 5x4. And thick. Bet it weighs 60 pounds.

    • @ToyManTelevision
      @ToyManTelevision  Рік тому

      When our friend Steve brought the windmill over he said WOW. the photos just don’t do it justice. When you’re standing there looking up to the top 12’ above the floor…