Modeling Cribbing and the Chama Sand House in
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- We are modeling the cribbing on our logging railroad in 1:20.3 scale. AND Steve came by with the Chama sand house model to test the fit and look at the engine shops.
We are waiting for wood and rail to lay track so we have moved on to the cribbing along the 3-foot gauge logging line. Log cribbing below the grade, timber cribbing above. The log cribbing is made from sticks and dowels, the timber cribbing from 1/4 inch square dowels.
The fill behind the cribbing is kitty litter!! Looks great!
And Steve Strebel came by with the model of the Chama sand house. I have been modeling the coating tower and he is building the sand house for the locomotive shops. - Навчання та стиль
That is such a beautiful job, you and Karyn do such great work. Also love Steve's skills. WOW!
HI!! And thanks!!! Just started the single stall engine house for the logging line. Balsa! To keep it light.
Always fun "visiting" with you two.
Hi. And THANKS 😊
You're not boring at all. Your videos are great. Nice kitty litter trick
Hi! And thanks 🙏!
I like the cribbing idea. It all looks like that it belongs there. Looking forward to the final build!
HI! Us too... Just started on the single stall locomotive shed up here. Balsa.. keep it light!
Looks absolutely amazing!! You both are so talented! Love the cribbing. Starting a HO layout and have gotten so many ideas from both of you.. Your layout is amazing! Thank you for sharing all that you do!..........
Thanks!!
Can't wait to see the logging engines 😀😀😀😀😀👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍keep safe
Thanks. Tomorrow the shay.
I never find anything you do boring! In fact, I find it quite interesting! Good ideas to keep in mind when I get my model railroad up and going!
Ohhh, logging railroad turning out so sweet!
Hi. Thanks!! Really fun too.
So fascinating to watch the growth of your railroad and the creative way y’all build your landscapes. I am always just blown away by it and it really gets my creative juices flowing to do more of my own creations instead of just kits or already built pieces. Keep up the great work, be safe and happy railroading!
Scratch building is so much mor fun! And in some ways easier. Not fighting the kit design! Or figuring out the translation of the instructions.
@@ToyManTelevision I have so many ideas in my head and I think I just want to look at pictures and try to scratch build it. I know it’ll be trial and error (probably a lot of error) but I think it will be more satisfying.
Enjoy all your videos keep up the fulling around can't wait to see it all come together
So much to build. GOOD!! The fun never ends. The layout goes on forever....
As a kid I ran the carpet central in HO... then when I was about 12-13 my dad took me to the attic of my grandparents house to retrieve his Lionel O27 from the early 50’s... it had been up there for near 30 years just waiting... and it came on a 4x8 table made by a neighbor... I still have the table... And just a couple years ago I built a 4x4 layout and it was my first go at using roadbed and ballast... ground cover etc... built a couple bridges... it was a blast! Seeing your work is on a whole nother level!!! You guys are masters!
Hi. Fun memories. Us too. And it’s all been fun. For like 70 years. Well I guess 66. I was like 4 when I got my first train.
Hi Dale & Kayrn. So much talent and both of you so willing to share “how to do it” too. Thank you!!!!
THANKS!!!
Dale: Really good video. The cribbing looks great as does the sanding tower. Never boring. See you Tuesday.
AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE NEVER BORING ALWAYS AWESOME THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME VERY GOOD MODELERS BOTH OF YOU THANK YOU BOTH YOU ARE BOTH VERY INTERESTING TO YOUR SUBSCRIBERS THANK YOU. 🚂🚂😷😷👌😁📸
Hi Jim. Doesn’t that cribbing technique look good? Love the cat litter. Just started the single stall engine house 🏡. So far so good.
Looks awesome! You guys do such a great job! The cribbing and the sand house is phenomenal! Steve did a great job on the sand house! Still can’t get over how good the ties look! Love seeing the locomotives! Also can’t wait to see how Karen’s clock will come out! Have a great day! Take care!
As always you both are amazing. The logging looks awesome. You really do great work. Steve did a fantastic job on the sand building. Wow! ❤️
Steve is having fun with it too! Whils also working on his layout. Retirement..... Doesnt suck if your a modeler.
WOW! I really enjoyed this episode. My On30 layout has lots of tunnel opening and steep sides on the hills. I never though about cribbing. I think it will ad a great visual touch to my layout. I so enjoy your shows so much. I even got my mom to subscribe and watch your shows. I got her hooked, when I showed her your bicycle show. She has the same green bicycle. She bought it new and still has the box. Hers is in a display case under the tv. I'm a huge fan of miniatures. I enjoy you show things you have and places you go. Please be safe, but don't stop doing what you enjoy.
HI! AND the timber cribbing is so simple!! And kitty litter will still work in O scale.
Great to see the progress on all of this!
Thanks 🙏 some fun too. Stay safe.
Yet another great show! Still my favorite UA-cam Guy's and Gal!
Watch while stopped on the prototype UP (SP) near the Salton Sea.
Wow, another great video. I knew that you knew Ed Dickens, but didn't know just how well.
Ed has to be the ultimate kid living the dream of being a railroader. It must be assume to get to drive 844 and 4014, when ever he wants.
This I know; once you get the smells and sounds of an active steam locomotive in your head, they never leave and you can't help loving them.
I'm looking forward to more great stuff, especially your logging locomotives. ;-)
I would use an electric carving knife for foam, no stink! Looks great, so detailed with cribbing and stone work.
Use a “sir form” rasp a lot. Carving knife is good too.
All I can say. :0 [thumbs up !]
Really coming a long nice. Enjoy watching your videos.
Liked video 👍
Looks very very nice can’t wait to see how it looks when it’s finished
YOU BOTH ARE VERY GOOD MODELERS AND YOUR COMMENTS AND OPINIONS ARE VERY GOOD AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE YOUR FINAL LOOK IS AWESOME GOOD. IT SHOULD BE VERY VERY INTERESTING LOOK I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS PROJECT LOOKS VERY COOL . THANK YOU BOTH FOR THIS VIDEO AND SHARING THIS SCREWING AROUND TIME WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS I APPRECIATE IT AND YOU BOTH 👍👍👍😷😷😷🚂🚂👌🚂🚂JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA
Hi! Thanks!!! Fun show Sunday. Evanston
Very nice series of details to add to the line. My very best friend built his home next to a creek. Core of engineers were trying to concrete the channel but Bruce stopped them and won. His solution was rock filled wire baskets called gabions. Water could drain through and plant growth could as well stabilizing the entire structure. This was on Mission Creek in Santa Barbara. Bruce is blind.
Mission creek.. love that place. Big flood problems though. I was trapped in my house for 3 days in Ojai.
Cribbing looks great.
the railroad and everything is looking nice i know it will be awesome and fun when its done
Hi. Thanks 🙏 so far really happy with it.
Steve's sandhouse ,wow ! love the detail interior.I did not realise how big the coal tower was. Some fine work,you guys. Be careful with that burning styro ,toxic !! Stand outside or in the garage doorway,if poss. Tricky if it's not portable. I prefer to cut and sculpt. For a black finish on wood use india ink,not that stinky stuff.Take care and look after your health.
I like surform rasps. I should show that!!
That is looking great. A trick Al used on his logging railroad for his cribbing was a forstner bit in a drillpress with a fence that was drilled the same as the bit with bit sticking out enough to make the notch.
I don't know if you have looked at the intersections of the cribbing. All the ones I've seen have been pinned together with a steel drifts.
Great Video
Thanks
Looking great
Thanks 😊
Good stuff!
Thanks
Nice job folks . Years ago I mentioned to a fellow model train builder on using Kitty Litter . Well you guys confirmed my idea though not original but it works and looks authentic for the cribbing fill . The litter is $4.95 for 25-30 lbs and useful for many other intent and less expensive than the quart at $9.95 of medium grit ballast . I enjoy your videos and sharing .
So far we don’t see a down side.. several people have said it’s bad. Changes colors and so on. But it’s clay. Just clay. Dirt. Just don’t see a down side.
the square cribbing reminds me of a retaining wall setup my dad and I put on part of my his outdoor garden railroad 20+ years ago. Instead of small square blocks, we staggered the layers. Where they overlapped, the crib members were drilled and large galvanized nails driven through (guessing around 6d). This technique was used due to the area it was installed was located along a curve. I do not remember what we put behind the cribbing to keep dirt from spilling through as the gap between layers was around half an inch.
Yes the back fill needs to drain so usually gravel. Larger stones. Usually stays put.
Quick tip: for your foam cutting tool, you can buy extra wires and bend them with pliers to create different contours.
Need pore power I think. I can grab the tool at any time and its just sort of hot. Perhaps 120 degrees?
For your notching of the long logs get yourself a 1" drill bit , put it in your drill press and sink it down below the table of the drill press . Then take your logs and push them into the drill . You will have the right Curve on them to stack them and they will be rough as if they had been gone through a wood cutter . That is what we did and it worked out GREAT . We found the Sander would BURN the logs and we went through at lest 10 drums before we went to the Drill set up .To make sure it would all line up we build a jig with a piece of 4 x 1 and drilled 4 holes into it to put a peg in so we had four holes for the different spots to drill . WORKED GREAT and down the road if we want to build more we have a TOOL for that ...
Great and interesting project I might try it on my G layout soon
Do the timber cribbing!!! So fun and looks amazing!!
@@ToyManTelevision Ilitle of both I have ideas for it
Looks great 👍👍
12:00 looked like homemade french fries 😄
Hum...They might make good ties. McDonnalds would make great 1:20.3 ties as is!! Even hold a spike Ill bet... AND last for about 1000 years.
Amazing progress on the layout toyman!!! I would call my little layout at home nothing fancy, but I like to call it a work bench... the classic 4 x 8. My true layout is the columbia gorge model railroad club layout AND THATS SOME NICE TRACK!
Cool! Love to see the club layout
Seeing the sand shed, reminded me of the one we had in Cloncurry outside the Diesel Servicing Sheds. It looked like a boiler stood on end, with a funnel at the top and a chimney pipe that ran through the roof( to let the smoke out) down through the middle of the barrel to the firebox at the base. Around the chimney was a spiral so the Cleaners and Labourers would shovel sand from the bunker (which was outside the shed, sand being brought to the Depot in special designed wagons and allowed to flow into the bunker) into the top of the sand dryer and as it cooked it would flow by gravity to the base of the dryer, where a Shute was opened and compressed air used to blow it up into the sand tank on top of the sand spider. Unfortunately, I didn't take any photos of this before the majority of it had been dismantled... and Yes Ed is absolutely right, the Steam era guys would hide in the sand shed on night shift during winter as it was the best place to had a sleep.
That’s a great story! Sounds like an odd tower. But love to see it. Took a lot of work back then just to put sand in the locomotives 🚂
@@ToyManTelevision i will try see if there are any inadvertent photos that show the Service shed, and I will email them to you. Cloncurry is a town 8.5hrs drive west of Townsville in my state of Queensland. It was one of the first steam depots to Dieselise. Diesels being introduced to the Queensland Government Railway in 1950 a 90t GE product with a Cooper Bessemer Engine. Your layout is coming along well too by the way. Oh I came across a shay loco that was plinthed near Toowoomba just the other day. A bush tramway used to exist near Hampton.
hi great work love it a round rasping file will work for making the notches
😊 looks great
Wow, everyone is being pretty productive. Nothing like staying at home to get our projects done.
I know you were showing off your goose's (or are they called geese?) But do you have any rail speeders for your new model railroad?
Very Inspiring !
These videos are so helpful I might try to make an ho scale version of these
Do try the timber cribbing. Easy and looks great!!
Ok thank you
That cribbing reminds me of Lincoln Longs.
My favorite toy. That and tinker toys.
Rotory grinders are available for shaping the logs.
I have seen 2 sand houses in use. One was on the L&NW RR at Gibsland, LA and the other was on the Reader RR at Reader, AR. Both of them had screens at the bottom of the cones to let the dry sand of the correct size fall through into catchmets for collecting the dry sand. The tube you have for the sand to go into the buckets comes from the wet sand area not the dry sand area. Unless you have a drawing or photograph of the sanddrier stove, I remember the area for the screen to be smaller in diameter than you have depicted it. The sand drying house was where everyone would gather to shoot the breeze and warm up. I will try to find a photo of one of the sand drier stoves.
This is based on a model seen in I think the gazette. no idea what’s correct or not. And it had no system to blow the dry sand. But it had that “drain tube” dumping into buckets.
Hey Dale and, Karen how are, you guy's doing? That's good way to make a, fairus wheel out it
Well yet another piece of screwing around considering that there is a
pandemic going on. You two are logged down again this week. I will be waiting for your next video Tuesday.
HI. Yup, stil in. Still locked down mostly. BUT getting a lot done. Strange times.... Im assuming in looking back the the layout builds these things will recall some really strange memories. STAY SAFE!
I watched while working on the railroad (stopped of course) near the Salton Sea.
Strange place. Great history!! Love to see (sea) it.
@@ToyManTelevision go in the winter. It can get 120° + in the summer.
Great looking cribbing, you were using clay outside, doent it turn to mud in the rain?
The key to success with that tool is... ditch the power supply it came with and use a variable power supply.
The sanding tower looks dainty next to the coaling tower - looks great though.
I know you're not short of projects and Karen's a dab hand with the room dioramas (amongst many things) but have you tried doing a book nook? I'm currently doing one for my granddaughter - shhh - she doesn't know about it! ;-)
Every time I put out cat litter now (we have two cats) I think, why am I wasting this on cats and not making some model with it!!! ;-)
Turned out awsome. But I feel like it wouldve been way easier to find some lincoln logs at goodwill. 20/20 hindsight
Or make yer own!
@@ToyManTelevision naw. Im just joshing u. U did great
How old do you have to be to have a distributor tester hanging around, or to even know what on is?
Well..... By brother bagged it in 1965 to use to turn model t spokes Worked great! Anyway, I loved the look so I restored it.
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What happens if the cat litter gets wet? It looked like you put some on your outside track.
What Code rail are y'all planning on using, and what size are you replacing (148)? Enjoyed the video, please continue to share.
Hi. Yup 148 to 215 to clear the .166 flanges. 30 pound to about 40 pound prototype.
Hello
Oh gee... first it was “nesting” and now it’s “cribbing”...🤣, But seriously... Why back in the day did they need to build this elaborate sand tower instead of just a simple conveyor belt that could lift the sand up and into the locomotive?
Not sure. But I think it’s the drying. ???