The Worst Lightsaber Design in Star Wars | Inquisitors Blade
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The Inquisitor's blade is unique design in the world of lightsabers, but is it more gimmicky than functional? We take a look at this maligned design and explain why it was one of the worst blades you could use.
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Meh
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The Inquisitor's lightsabers are just like them. They're Flashy and intimidating, but not actually a threat to a skilled opponent. The whole point of the Inquisitors is to find and kill escaped Jedi, but they only have the most basic training of the dark side powers and lightsaber combat. I'd go so far as to say that their sabers are literally crutch weapons. They use them to compensate for their lack of skill by being scary and overwhelming for younglings and padawans that escaped Order 66. Against a skilled padawan or a knight, they get beaten quite easily. But that's the point. Any Jedi that can kill an Inquisitor is an opponent who's worth Darth Vader's time. So much like their sabers, they're cheap and disposable.
Exactly. Vader didn’t even bother with Cal Kestis until he bested two inquisitors. Vader doesn’t waste time with those that the inquisitors can handle
Notice how most Inquisitors would keep their lightsaber single bladed after the first encounter with their new assignment.
Too bad they AREN'T scary, just silly
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 I mean a lightsaber propeller is pretty scary
@@dingleberry4234 not really. I'd be too busy laughing at the idiot for having the sci Fi equivalent of a fidget spinner.🤣
Vader and the other Sith never needed a spinning wheel of silliness to be taken seriously.
It really is a gimmicky design perhaps so that less skilled inquisitors can catch opponents off guard to make up for their short commings
Makes sense, most inquisitors were Jedi padawans or knights, so they didn’t reach their full potential when converted. So the inquisitors need every advantage they can get to hunt down Jedi’s who probably have equal or even more training, skills & power then themselves.
@@theafflictionvhs17 Most inquisitors were patawans only the Grand Inquisitor was confirmed to have been a Jedi Knight. They wouldn't have needed a gimmick lightsaber to catch Jedi off guard.
@@theafflictionvhs17 you gotta remember that Vader trained the Inquisitors, so the Inquisitors are already trained by VADER.
@@dred9174 not all of them were padawans some were low-level jedi knights, and the tenth brother was a jedi master.
@@childishisnotachild7277
But Vader only trained them to an extent.
To handle remaining Jedi but not skilled or powerful enough to take on Vader himself or the empire. Much like how Palpatine used cheaper droids to build Vader’s suit & cybernetics, just enough to move but always in a state of constant pain & misery.
I like how when Maul got a inquisitor lightsaber he was like “ What the frik is this spinning thing ” and made it into a normal double bladed lightsaber.
Can you imagine Dooku’s reaction to seeing those spinning lightsabers and the Inquisitors in general? He’s clearly not someone who gets outwardly angry easily, but seeing those designs would probably do it.
Yeah he would disassemble them in detail over these, things.
@@Omniseed
Here is Dooku, a renown diplomat, proven leader and one of the wealthiest men in the entire Galaxy, that in addition to being one of the most highly regarded Jedi Masters, powerful as Windu and Yoda in the Force and probably until Anakin. An unrivalled swordsman with no equal (besides Sidious of course)
Dooku really was the Anakin Skywalker of his generation in many ways.
The Gifted Mavericks.
And he comes back and he finds he’s been replaced with these incompetent, emotionally-stunted viscous idiots who can’t even take on a motivated half-trained Padawan with these eyesores for Lightsabers with the refinement and dignity of an orgy at Jabba’s Palace.
Honestly If Dooku ever came back to life during the Imperial era, he’d be more insulted at seeing who Sidious had replaced him with than angry at his betrayal.
@@callumwebb4927 Heck yes!
@@callumwebb4927 to be fair he wasn't replaced by the Inquisitors he was replaced by Vader. Inquisitors replaced the Assasins and Bounty hunters Dooku and Sidious used (like Jango Fett, Grievous, Ventress,Savage Oppress and others) they're still a massive downgrade though
He’d probably use the force to do it too😂
Vader: "The Inquisitors should try spinning with their lightsabers. It's a good trick."
haha
Vader probably designed them.
Only way to ensure the high ground.
@@thecitizenarmy7958 - That is until somebody shoots at them. They are slow-moving targets and can't block blaster bolts when they are in 'helicopter' mode, LOL.
Grievous: I was expecting someone with your reputation to be a little...more original. *cough*
I think it's just for the surprise factor and also, obviously, "we trained them wrong, as a joke". Once anything becomes slightly difficult they just call in other guys like Vader to handle it. Also specializing in double bladed is a terrible idea for a beginner.
“we trained them wrong as a joke” made me laugh so hard
Take my face, to your fist!
Is that a Kung Pow joke? lol
Double bladed seems to make it hard to avoid hit yourself and hard to hit someone else.
The only good thing about it is that it's new. If you've ever done fencing or kendo or HEMA and someone does something weird, it can actually put you a little off balance. Now, if you're very experienced it won't matter, but if you're a beginner then someone doing something that's strange can let them get a hit on you.
If you're using double or dual blades then you actually have LESS range than a one handed or two handed style with a single blade. Double bladed is actually a really defensive style and dual blades is a very difficult style too.
Just basically, this ain't for beginners.
I had always assumed that the spinning blade was useful for corralling hunted Jedi that, by the time we see them for the first time in Rebels, are usually former Padawans. Back them into a corner, capture them, and then interrogate them.
Ultimately, I think the spinning aspect is like a musket versus a longbow. It's less effective than the old way, but you don't need to train a lifetime to do it. Inquisitors are expendable, so anyone who isn't overpowered by them just gets to meet the greatest human podracer of all time, so that's fun for them.
I'll try spinning, thats a cool trick!
NOW THIS IS YOUNGLING SLAYING!
not human anymore, hes a robot now.
muskets were more effective than longbows too though weren't they? Also you needed to train to have those things not explode in your face, to load them properly, and they were more expensive.
Longbows were cheap, and getting people who knew them was easy because they had the ingenious idea of making archery with a longbow the most popular big boy sport that eveyone wanted to do at the timr
@@comet.x Muskets we’re better against armour but had a lower fire rate. Against an unarmoured opponent the long bow was more lethal.
The problem with the longbow is you needed to be really strong and skilled to use them. Anyone can load a musket not everyone can draw a bow with 150-200 lb draw weight and fire repeatedly. Ironically despite what they show in Hollywood the most muscular warriors would have been long bowmen.
The Grand Inquisitor is the one who uses the lightsaber to it's full potential, not only physically but also mentally, he is able to use it for intimidation, making his enemies feels trapped. To it's full potential the Inquisitor lightsaber is powerful and enhanced their user's combat. I would personally refer to the lightsaber as "enhanced combat mode lightsaber"
That's because he used to be a Jedi Knight so he was more advanced than the other inquisitors.
This is why I can’t completely hate it, like the spinning is silly as hell, but that’s not gonna matter because it’s a lightsaber, it’s still gonna kill you. In fact I’d argue the sillier the more dangerous
Well said
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that's totally true, his style really pull out every benefit of the blade at the correct moment, his only mistake was being over confident in his last duel against Kanan
I'm of the mind that the Inquisitor Lightsaber is designed by Sidious to be impractical and gimmicky on purpose.
Why? Same reason Sidious had Vader's suit was built the way it is: to give Jedi a problem they're not used to seeing while still trying to ensure none below him could challenge him.
This
Bullseye.
Facts
Only in legends did Palpatine purposely try to hinder Vader & his underlings. Canon says Palpatine wanted an apprentice who could surpass him and he spared no expense rebuilding Vader to be as powerful as possible. He even taunted Vader after his meeting with the Grand Inquisitor; telling him to be mindful that if any of them showed the strength to defeat him, Vader would be promptly replaced.
@@thewarner2139 Nah. There are two points to this. They're sorta contradictory but that's on purpose. It's an intentional character flaw for the Emperor.
First - Sidious is sadistic and self serving. Power, knowledge, glory, and immortality only for himself. He teases the possibility of ascendency but doesn't consciously desire that. Second - His conscious desires don't matter. As grand as Sidious thinks himself, he is a puppet of the Dark Side of the Force. The Sith think they bend the Dark Side of Force to their own will. The irony is that the Dark Side let's them think this. It uses Dark Siders and the Sith to serve itself. The Dark Side seeks a stronger and stronger servant to enact its will. Like the urge to reproduce, Sidious is subconsciously motivated to find someone that can replace him. It's a type of suicidal ideation.
Furthermore, canon makes a point to say that Sidious was paranoid of the Force, Lightside or as a whole, taking retribution against him (Midichlorian manipulation). Thrawn is puzzled as to why the Emperor wants to turtle inside of a planet killing armored fortress instead of building more effective ships; Why his military decisions are skewed towards protecting himself at the detriment of Galactic security. Thrawn doesn't know but the reader is supposed to.
Lastly, the Force's plan to defeat Sidious through Anakin wouldn't work if Sidious actually believed Vader could replace him. His arrogance blinded him. He thought he broke Anakin. He thought he stopped the Force's plan and corrupted it to serve himself instead. He thought the Rebel fleet and troops on Endor were the Force's pitiful attempt at vengeance. He thought his planet destroyer, best forces, and Sith powers could save him. The Force humiliated him instead. Made him believe he was invincible. Put Anakin right by his side like a double agent. Then used Luke as a catalyst to bring Anakin back to the Light. The Dark Lord of the Sith was killed by a father's love for his son. Anakin's selfless parental need to protect his child. The most anti-Sith act imaginable.
I really hate the spinning lightsabers. Having played with bicycle wheels and gyroscopes, I know how difficult it is to control a spinning object. They like to stay in the same relative space and position you left them, and when you force them to move, they resist you and can go rolling off in an unexpected direction.
I expected the Grand Inquisitor to cut his own legs off the first time I saw the spin action.
They remind me of gigantic "figit spinners."
Honestly, if lightsabers were real and I could get one, mine would have a slender hilt (to minimize the overall profile), be balanced well enough for one or both hands, and have a shorter blade (maybe 24 inches) to aid in use while in close quarters.
Yes yes yes yes yes! Trying to hold a spinning gyroscope to turn it intentionally to in a specific direction is really hard. It always wants to go back to level or spin off on its own. You'd but your own SOMETHING off for sure with one of these.
It all just better highlights what we all know the Inquisitors aren't meant to be effective warriors, atleast not by Clone Wars Standards. Since there are virtually no Jedi left in the galaxy, simply having Force Powers and a Lightsaber usually is enough to make you one of the deadliest people in the room, even if your knowledge of the Force is limited and your lightsaber kind of sucks.
Not to mention, you don’t want them getting too good, otherwise they might pose a threat to your power
The strongest of inquisitors, Grand inquisitor was on level of temple guardian, so he wasn't bad warrior unlike other inquisitors. He would probably defeat the most of remaining jedi if met in combat, since it's mostly padawans, younglings and average jedi knights who survived the jedi purge. But the fact that he is probably the only inquisitor who is able to fight and win with jedi knight is kinda weird
@@God_abandoned_us_all he is the only inquisitor who would have been able to win in a fight on his skill alone. The others were expected to rely on the handicaps of troops and the spiny-blades to compensate. Training them too well would make them threats to the two sith lords
tbf not all jedi are as skilled as kenobi, windu, yoda, or anakin (they were the cream of the crop). Look at the attack on the arena in geonosis, according to canon numbers, 215 jedi were sent there. Rushing in head-on, only 28 survived. Given such massive casualty numbers against a primarily droid and geonosian infantry (dooku did not participate in that fight) and jango only killed a few of those jedi, it seems with the exception of kenobi and jedi, most of the stragglers were probably not as adept fighters as them to begin with.
The fact that Maul spins it under his own power is far more impressive.
Cos maul is beefy
still an absolutely horrible design, worthless in combat if you don't have the force to protect you.
There is a fighting style for staff saber to combat against the short coming of the large hilts provide a large target for your enemy. The user like Maul have to constantly moving around, jumping, bending to hide it. However the inquisitor design is just a stupid toy that Disney thinks is cool. Because of the circle, it make it impossible to change hand, and because the saber is spinning, it make it a stationary target for just a moderate skill sniper.
@@ninjadejedi Thank you for your reply!
@@ninjadejedi exactly their is exposed and anyone with a blaster can just shoot it and may kill the user if the lightsaber explodes. And someone with a lightsaber can just throw it like a javelin at it.
In canon, Sidius considers lightsabers and lightsaber dueling an absolute joke. He is devoted to the absolute power of the dark side, and lightsabers are a child's plaything at best.
It is highly likely that he designed the inquisitor's sabers like this purely for comedic reasons because that's just an absolutely Sidius thing to do.
"I must apologize for -Wimp lo- the Inquisitors. We have trained them wrong on purpose, as a joke"
It regularly malfunctioned and overheated plus as seen in rebels it was easy to cut in half and break. The spinning function also endangered the inquisitors themselves.
but it looks cool
I always found it odd that they gave them an out. Doesn’t seem palpatine’s style to give them a method of escape in battle, but then maybe that was never the intention, and the inquisitors just figured out the flying thing on their own.
@@5stargrim It comes back to the difference in skill as well as the philosophy Vader tried to instill in the inquisitors about being more offensive minded and not falling back on training as a jedi. If they are flying away what's ti stop a jedi / sith from just tossing their blade and cutting them down while they are airborne. But I agree they are just cheap lightsabers to supply his attack dogs in swarming attacks because a skillful duelist is going to beat them bit could end up injuring or wounding their prey
@@5stargrim so if they are against an actually skilled opponent they can escape and call in reinforcements, or vader
@@Battyj I mean, true, probably. But I have a hard time accepting it because the inquisitors seem to be punished with death at almost every turn, when failing to personally capture a Jedi especially. In retrospect Wolfe probably has a point. It was definitely intended to make up for their lack of skill, intended to confuse and overwhelm lesser Jedi. I’m willing to bet the flight thing was just something one of them tried once and they’ve been using it to run away ever since.
I disagree with one thing. You called the helicopter function "cool".
It is the dumbest thing ever introduced to Star Wars and THAT is saying something. The spinning is neat. The idea that a lightsaber blade can generate lift like that is more lorebreaking than turning it into a plasma sword.
I don't think it even matters on the lore side too much. It's just silly in general. Very slowly hovering place to place with a lightsaber helicopter, lol.
My theory behind the “helicopter mode” is that lightsabers themselves are not actually generating any lift, and the inquisitors are using the Force to lift the sabers while they’re holding onto it. In other words, if a non-Force sensitive we’re to try to use the “helicopter mode,” they’d just plummet to their death.
Kyber crystals already channel the Force in some way, so maybe the spinning function spreads out that energy like a sail, giving the inquisitors something more to “latch onto.” It’s the equivalent of using a crutch when compared to actually lifting yourself like we’ve seen more powerful Jedi do. It makes sense, in a way, since it would keep the inquisitors from developing their powers any more than necessary. When the 8th Brother lost his “crutch,” he wasn’t skilled enough to even slow his descent to save himself. Which is crazy since that would likely have been a skill even Ezra could do at that time.
@@CJ-442 so basically using a physics gun to lift up a platform while ur on it
Thank you
I wholeheartedly agree with this comment.
Grievous wrist + "spinning is a good trick" = Inquisitor Lightsaber
There was a grievous lightsaber toy that did this I kid you not.
It’s just far too complex and finicky
Also the curved hilt lightsaber goes perfectly with the grand inquisitors lightsaber style in rebels
yea for sure he moved more like a fencer in some of those early duels
I would’ve gone with the Ventress curved hilts and a double bladed form. But the spinning blade lets them fly
@@tgiacin435 the flying with a spinning lightsaber is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Yes its dum
@@R3D_Lantern it’s still effective as hell though lmao
There's a lot of things I can suspend my disbelief, but a spinning lightsaber somehow working like a propeller and allowing people to fly is so absurdly silly I just can't get over it. Couldn't have been jetpacks on those Inquisitor armours, noo~ just make the double lightsaber spin really fast. The entire concept is just stupid (and they know it considering the obvious flaws are exploited by characters). They went right past Rule of Cool straight into cringey.
At least that's my personal opinion.
As someone who actually likes the spinning saber, yeah no that's too far.
Same it just looks dumb
Grievous: Allow me to introduce myself *cough cough*
It's like if Mary Poppins turned to the Dark Side.
good news and bad news
good news is it's repulsorlifts in the mechanism
bad news is that's even more mechanically complex
I think the lightsaber design is 2 fold. It allows the inquisitors who had the least Jedi training to compensate for their lack skill while making the more experienced member's force skills atrophy thus making both groups less of a threat to Palpatine & Vader. Why must Darksiders be so paranoid and distrustful, they could do with a few trust exercises and escape room exercises. We just have to temporarily remove lightsabers and make sure the escape rooms have only mutual win scenarios and no space large enough to hide a Yoda size body or larger.
Sorry that bad pun was unintentional.
Well,in legends the explanation was that too large groups of less skilled dark siders would often try and kill their masters,and if they succeded then you had a bunch of not nearly as skilled dark siders which also just lost a lot of precious knowledge cause master is dead and then would likely fights eachother for dominance. Sith are self destructive by nature,and the times they actually worked like the jedi order they were massively weaker. Which is why the rule of 2 exists,it baisically weaponizes this lust of power,the master would have all the power and the apprentice would crave it and once the latter had all the knowledge he needed,if he was strong enough,he would kill his master,and the cycle would continue. Hope i made myself clear,have a good day :)
@@sokratikas 😞, already knew that part. To be more accurate the inquisitors and sith assassins weren't meant for apprenticeship. I think the rule of 2 may have created a critical failure point in the sith. It generally pushed Sith Masters to focus only those strong in the force rather than look at other criteria like cunning and critical thinking skills. It's essentially overcorrection for a serious fundamental flaw that didn't solve the actual problem.
@@jacobhuff3748 well,if you look at what palps and plaguise did,it certainly has actually,palps got the empire exactly by getting more cunning and outsmarted the jedi with a grandious gran plan. Though,the issue is in palps himself,for the inquisitors and all it comes with it are are his brain child,to add that he wouldn't teach everything to vader because he wanted to hold that power. So I would argue that the main issue of the sith,which is exemplified in palpatine is unbrideled ambition,not lack of cunning
@@sokratikas Palpatine was cunning but it was a plan that he inherited and even then the Empire was short lived while previous Sith Empires lasted longer before falling due to infighting. Keeping power in the hands of the few should have been the goal but 2 is too small of a group to come up with a workable long term plan. Sure the guy advising might try to kill you tomorrow but he actually might also have a good point about how one of your nominees ideas could go awry and provide a better alternative. Rule of 2 was ultimately about getting revenge and not how to build a long lasting empire. The rule of 2 ultimately got rid of constructive competition while not get rid of the toxic competition.
The inquisitor saber is one of those things that was so obviously designed to be a marketable toy rather than an effective weapon.
I say these would be a nightmare if wielded by Exarkun.
@@blackpowderkunno. He would be in hysterics if he saw it
The spinning effect would make the Inquisitor lightsaber a better weapon to throw, and would presumably increase its effective throwing range. Also gives it more cutting power when thrown. The biggest disadvantage of it is of course how hard it would be to wield and use effectively without injuring yourself in the process.
Conveniently inquisitors are used to losing limbs so it's not to much of a problem for them
I really think it's more as an intimidation tool than anything. Most serious Jedi opponents were slowly removed during the war, with most remaining high skill users falling on the day order 66 was issued. Against the typical survivor, padawans and young knights such a weapon could overwhelm their ability to defend, somewhat like Griveous and his multi arm saber technique.
I think it is to increase the inquisitors ability to deal with less skilled Jedi survivors and the people aiding them. It takes Kanan a bit of luck and time to learn how to deal with them before he beats the grand inquisitor. The inquisitors were probably the first level anti-Jedi response then the more skilled inquisitors like the grand inquisitor or a group would deal with the Jedi and if they survived that then Darth Vader is sent out. The inquisitors are probably nothing more than disposable tools to hunt down Jedi survivors who are alive through luck not skill and to interrogate people for leads, this would cut down on Vaders and other more valuable assets required missions. Working against relatively unskilled opponents the spin trick is probably enough to catch an enemy of guard and kill them but anyone good enough of a duellist to deal with it was Vaders job not the inquisitors anyway so it doesn't matter that in that level of fight it is a liability not an advantage.
I think if they were all as skilled at using it as the Grand Inquisitor & the hilt portions were made of lightsaber resistant material like phrik, cortosis, beskar, or force imbued ultrachrome then it would be much more practical.
My argument for the cross guard Kylo uses
even if the hilts were lightsaber and or blaster resistant, a saber or blaster shot there would still hit their hand (joints are always exposed in any armor) making it still vulnerable
@@dice-3221 That can be said of any lightsaber and more so than the Inquisitors light sabers too. As General Grievous proves and as we see in the comic where Vader first encounters the Grand Inquisitor, the sheer unorthodox and aggressive nature of the inquisitors blade design gives an advantage in the 'short term' until opponents can get use to it, focus, and find its designs flaws. However until then, you have pretty much 99% of the time, even against someone like Vader, a window to capitalize in that advantage and find victory. Sometimes it isn't just about simple resistance too. Cortosis won't deflect a parried saber, it will temporarily shut it down. Ultrachrome is stated to be an alternative to Cortosis too in the new canon. The outer part of the hilt utilizes also as a sword guard can capitalize on that.
@@DoomedRedbull The "cross guard" on Kylo's saber isn't by design, or on purpose.
It's because his saber's kyber crystal is fractured, which results in the unstable blade.
The "side blades" are for venting excessive plasma because of the fractured crystal.
Without the side vents, his lightsaber would overheat and then explode in a matter of seconds after being activated.
@@SpaceWizardCosplay I know all that already. I just want a lightsaber cross guard cause it looks cool
I have always thought, why doesn't somebody just shoot the centre of the lightsabre hilt and end the fight there as you would most likely take out the hand as well as the lightsabre being taken out while they are doing the spinny gimmick
Just goes to show Palpy McScrotumface had a sense of humor. The inquisitors were cannon fodder to draw out the Jedi, a distraction until Vader got there.
3:32 The fact that these guards don’t block lightsabers tells us nothing about Palpatine’s relationship with the Inquisitors: Filoni liked them when he conceived these ridiculous trash bois and gurls… Jedi hunters of the Empire should be discrete, stealthy, undistinguished operators, not ridiculous eagle scouts in matching outfits committing the same failures of the stormtrooper corps but on a grander scale w/ lightsabers
Your assessment is right but I feel you missed one thing. The empire and Sith rule through fear. Just like Grevious with his spinning attack the spinning function of the inquisitors blades would be very intimidating for someone who has little training in the force or seems to side with the republic. Of course the more skilled Jedi have little trouble dealing with them as the inquisitors aren't meant to hunt down the pros. Vader is. There just happens to be a lot more padawans out there than masters as most gave their lives for the students leaving them to fend for themselves. Now that they are scared and alone the inquisitors can use that fear as their primary weapon to wipe the remaining jedi out.
The thing is grievous had practicality with his design his feet could resist a force pull or push and he had 4 arms to overwhelm Jedi and he did kill a lot of them the only reason he didn’t kill Kenobi was kenobi is a master of patience and was considered the master of soresu whereas grievous was ambitions and anxious he rushed every fight he had which is why in the end he lost to kenobi
Clearly the spinning blade was designed for flight to allow the inquisitors to get the high ground in any battle, thus guaranteeing their victory.
Quick two part personal theory as to why the hilts were specifically designed NOT to be lightsaber resistant. First, Palpatine is repeatedly on record with his utter disdain for lightsabers as he views them as more of a hindrance to the Dark Side rather than a positive addition. Second, tied to his disdain for lightsabers as opposed to growing your personal power beyond the reliance on them it would make sense NOT to reinforce them despite the increased target they provide enemies because it would literally force the Inquisitors to get better to offset that added weakness rather than just relying on the ring as a way to intercept incoming strikes.
I think the desighn was made exclusively for the hallway scene we first seen it in, but the blade would be decent to have as a lore reason that they keep inquistors with a crutch, to prevent any threat of them getting to good
Am I the only one who likes the Inquisitorius Sabers? I mean I don't love the flying but the spinning when integrated with a unique style can be really cool.
Edit: Also to answer your last question, I definitely think there is at least one less practical saber than this and that is the Saber Gun. Sure it's a powerful blast but if you don't hit or it gets deflected then you loose literally every defense you have after just four shots since the gun melts the saber hilt used for the ammunition. There is a rule in knife fighting "don't throw your blade you'll never get it back." While this isn't literally throwing your blade as a focrewielder could just summon their blade back... I believe it is the equivalent because now your once again locked in a melee battle and you have disposed of your only weapon.
The Inquisitor's Lightsabers are a violation of the mechanics themselves. And only work because the original logical mechanics of Lightsabers were discarded by Disney. The blade actually travels somewhat through the hilt from the focusing crystal through the focusing lens and terminates thanks to the magnetic stabilizing ring. If a lightsaber's components were to shift, causing a misalignment, the saber would either explode or turn off. But because Disney doesn't care about these dynamics and haven come up with suitable mechanics that makes sense, they created the helicopter hilt. One that no matter how fast you spin it, would still not create lift because the blade is pure energy and therefore WEIGHTLESS. This is the real reason why the Inquisitor Lightsaber Hilts are such a terrible design. Because they make absolutely no sense.
Ummm.... Seeing the title, all I can think of is Ezra's staplegun lightsabre
That one was bad too.
i honestly like the idea of being able to shoot someone with a lightsaber lol
very han solo like move
@@GenerationTech i think you're confusing Han Solo with Indiana Jones. 😆
It actually makes a lot of sense and is quite clever if you can get past how silly it looks. As a Padawan, he gets to hide his lightsaber in plain sight and still have a viable ranged weapon. He does graduate to a regular lightsaber once he becomes proficient enough with it.
The Inquisicopter is one of the dumbest things in Star wars history
Idk what idiot gave the greenlight to that.
For kids, the show and horrid budget....the 3v3 lightsaber fights was so underwhelming in addition to the art/animation....sigh. Any 2v1 or multi person lightsaber fight in TCW was so exciting
If only Anakin had that, would of just flew out onto higher ground
At least now everything is TCW style animation. (My rant/thoughts)
@@TeemoForLife i also just wanna add how weak those needle-thin lightsabers looked like in Rebels... it's nowhere as imposing as a proper, thick-yet-elegant blades in TCW
Because Disney thought the Victory Gundam beam rotor was a good idea to copy.
To quote Jack O'Neill. "This," holds up Inquisitor saber, "is a weapon of terror. It is meant to intimidate the enemy. This," holds up proper lightsaber, "is a weapon of war. It is meant to KILL the enemy."
For the most feared Jedi hunters, you’d expect them to be given the most effective weapons. But then again, the empire as a whole isn’t really that effective (This is the purest definition of quantity over quality, focused on fear my ass)
Me when I first saw the Inquisitor lightsabers in Star Wars: Rebels: This is such a dumb design by Disney to sell toys or something.
Me after: This is actually a pretty interpretation of a lightsaber,
Me years later seeing it on live action: This is such a dumb design by Disney to sell toys or something…wait, didn’t I just had that thought before?
I feel like the “Evil Rey” scissor blade is worse or just as bad when not in its double blade form, it looks cumbersome and unwieldy while proving no advantage with how it’s swung.
I forgot about that cursed thing. I really do feel like they gust throw random shit out there
@@basedautism2283 It literally looks like more effort for a worse result
You realize it's just the Temple Guard style saber and that Dark Rey simply activated both blades before unfolding it rather than unfolding it first like we see the guards do. It's not a bad design, Dark Rey just turned it on backwards for the intimidation of having two blades activate in Rey's face. You don't actually use it while folded.
Inquisitors were the epitome of "trained cheap, equipped cheap." They had behavior problems, big egos, and were not intended to live long.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Kylo Ren’s saber is actually a good design. Since the cross guard is actually made of plasma it is incredibly useful.
As someone that does historical fencing I can say that this design is terrible the guard would get in the way, making it harder to attack with many positions
What are your thoughts on dookus curved saber
@@OddHunter5504 Dooku's actor Christopher Lee did fencing and had real combat experience with a sword. The design of the hilt of his lightsaber was designed specifically with that experience in mind to better reflect his style of swordplay in the real world.
@@OddHunter5504 it can be useful in some situations, but I think that a regular one is a better pick
@@franciscofunari2343 I heard an opinion that it's curved blade, would give an slight advantage in fight, due to unusual attack angles. Is it actually true in real world fencing?
@@God_abandoned_us_all I used to do SCA rapier fencing. Almost everyone uses straight blades, but I had a curved one. Mastering it took a fair amount of experimentation and practice. Eventually I learned to make thrusts and draw cuts from unexpected angles. Most of my opponents said it was challenging to fight against it. So, yes, it can be an advantage, if you learn how to use it and your opponent isn't used to it.
I thought the "pike sabre" was properly called a "polesabre".
Either way, the polesaber is my favorite type of sabre, per Darth Maul.
I believe there are differences between double bladed light saber Maul uses and the pike saber used by the Jedi Temple guards.
Saberstaff is what my lightsaber book says
@@darkwolfe6286 pike was a weapon double the length of mauls and worked as a spear without being turned on
I think the real reason is this debuted in Star Wars Rebels which had heavy tie in Hasbro toys and the gimmick made for a fun toy kids can buy. This is the real reason behind a lot of Star Wars stuff , toy sales
The Second Sister from Jedi Fallen Order is the only Inquisitor we've been introduced to thus far that actually seemed somewhat competent. Granted, the most skilled opponent she ever faced (as far as we know) was Cal Kestus, who lost his master when he just a youngling, and who's training was very much incomplete... meanwhile, the Grand Inquisitor, Seventh Sister, Fifth Brother, and Eighth Brother all got their asses kicked when going up against experienced Force users, especially true Jedi Knights and Sith Lords such as Ahsoka and Maul.
Well Grand Inquisitor and Second Sister were the best
Like a lot of things that aren't thought out properly, it can surprise you somewhat at first. But the moment you put any thought into it and it's just a huge weakness. The moment one of those idiots hides behind the spinning shield you fucking grab that ring by the inside or the hand of the Inquisitor and now you have some control of their weapon allowing you to either break the weapon or do something to attack their hand.
This actually reminds me of the TIE fighter. A screaming series of fighters swooping down may seem scary, but their armour is paper thin, they have no shields and their weapons aren't the most powerful. They're actually such a downgrade from their prototype that they're nearly useless. However the Empire was obsessed with Intimidation. So they wanted huge fleets of the things.
This is the problem when you're trying to look as powerful as you can and you don't put in the time, effort or energy to actually BE powerful. The Empire never had the control, manpower or tactics to actually take command of it's territory which is understandable as The Republic was too big and too poorly run. Replacing that government with one even more inefficient is NOT going to make things better. Quite the opposite in fact.
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Inquisitors were expendable. In practice, their real value was to distract stray Jedi with an obvious Force-using opponent while providing an opening for conventional stormtroopers to potentially just shoot the Jedi. Had the Jedi not scattered, but instead been reorganized in the Outer Rim or the Unknown Regions by Masters Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi, then properly trained Jedi would have likely been able to coordinate with Rebel forces to counter the Inquisitors. This would have forced Vader to come out and take greater and more frequent risks.
They would all die to Vader
@@SteveSmith-ty8ko - Vader was *not* invincible. He certainly managed to create that mystique, mostly by fighting and killing lesser Jedi. But remember that he *lost* to Obi-Wan on Mustafar and would *definitely* lose a fight with Obi-Wan *and* Yoda. By scattering, they made it easier for Vader to hunt down and kill less-skilled Jedi. That's also before you use the Empire's own tactics against him. Lure him into what he expect to be a lightsaber duel, and then hit him with ion-based weaponry that would short-circuit his life support suit. Or even just Geonosian sonic blasters, which a lightsaber can't block and neither could Anakin using the Force.
I love how everyone is looking for lore-friendly explanations for these lightsabers when in reality I think it's much more likely that someone on the production team had the idea to make the lightsabers spin because they thought it looked cool
The idea of looking cool could have come first but ironed out later, like every fanfic writter design their own saber and think how it fits in universe/era later
As all of you have all already mentioned the Inquisitor’s Blade is meant to intimidate their opponent. It reminded me of General Grievous spinning blade tactics which allowed him to distract his opponent. Which as you all know, in the case of a Force User this can be deadly.
Tonfa Saber has to take the crown for worst Lightsaber.
The advantage of a normal Tonfa is that you’ll deliver harder blows when you swing or spin it (it’s a good trick). You couldn’t spin it horizontally anymore without Darth Mauling yourself by the long plasma beam (so no more cool Lightsaber spins).
And you could say goodbye to your elbows no matter which way you strike, spin, swing or block.
Blocking incoming strikes require you to hold the longer end of the Tonfa against your forearms, or if you hold it away from your arm you’ll break your elbow. Same logic when you get K.O if you get OPEN-jaw punched.
So when there’s a force pushing the blade it digs into your forearm.
It’s not worth the extra Frik, Beskar, ray shields or effort in using the force for some quirky saber stick.
So basically if I have this right the inquisitors were designed so that Vader didn’t have to waste his time with the fledgling Jedis and apprentices and the key strength of the blade being it’s fatal flaw allows for the inquisitors to be powerful and imposing yet never be a threat to the emperor or Vader which would mean any real lightsaber duelist would dispatch an inquisitor with ease if they didn’t get caught off guard
Remember how Kanan just straight up cut the Grand Inquisitor's lightsaber in half by aiming inside the ring? Yeah, that.
Real world reason for the inquisitor's saber is the gimmick is literally for Hasbro to make a toy that is a reskin of the old general grievous spinny lightsaber toy, because if they didn't they would probably lose the patent to a toy like that. That's just my theory anyway.
The flaws in the inquisitor sabers was constantly showed during Rebels series.
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Agreed, it's terrible, and Dave Filoni HAS apologized for the "Helicopter" use in Rebels...
He did?! Wow. That's when U know it's complete dog shit. Like JJ saying ehh if U like ROS, good for you 😂😂😂😂
Really just made no sense whatsoever
I am really sad we still didnt see the one move......Helicopter Helicopter
I find it funny that as a kid, long before I even knew inquisitors were a thing, I came up with almost the exact same lightsaber idea.
It really is just a niche weapon I would love to see a lightsaber incorporate an effective D or Knuckle guard using Cortosis, Beskarr, or plasma as many lightsabers' only weakness is that they do not adequately protect the hands and I know that Jedi and sith reflexes make it less of a requirement (I to am a Star Wars fan).
As much as a good amount of people dislike this saber, I like it.
While it might have terrible design flaws, they're pretty much fixable. Just make the guards out of a lightsaber resistant material of your choosing, fix the internals so it doesn't overheat, and personally, my favorite, making it so that you can actually take it apart into two sabers like a splitsaber from fallen order. Sure, the mechanics to do that might make it a nightmare, but if you know what you're doing when you make it, this easily has the potential to become a very deadly and efficient saber to wield.
The design makes sense when you consider they basically existed to fight scrub jedi that weren't worth Vader's time and that spinning blade trick is going to throw scrub jedi really heavily off their game. Sure someone of actual skill is going to be in more danger of distracting themselves laughing their ass off at the gimmick, but inquisitors aren't supposed to be fighting them anyway. The ridiculous spinning lightsabers are basically a testament to the contempt Palpatine feels for these 2nd and 3rd rate losers he has doing busy work Vader is too important to waste on.
Excellent assessment as always! 👍
Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure the Inquisitor’s lightsaber hilt is based off an old General Grievous toy lightsaber. A person could twist their wrist to make the blades spin.
Yeah, they're deffinatly the worst. But old jedi using protosabers with the cord hanging loose instead of safely up their sleeve is a close 2nd for me. Followed by the Kylo crossguard of uselessness.
The crossguard is useful. Even if you couldn't use it defensively, it would be a deadly tool if he could get his opponent in the bind, something that happens a lot in lightsaber duels.
the in-cannon reason for the crossguard on his saber is to vent unstable plasma to make the saber safe to use, since Kylo''s saber uses a cracked crystal. Though the design itself is much older. I'm not sure if it represents a less refined design that couldn't quite manage a fully efficient superconducting loop, or if the old design had a much different use and kylo just modified it to solve his energy regulation problem.
crossguard is actually very good update to older lightsabers(one condition: the metal near crossguard must be resistant to lightsaber cuts)
They cannot reform Beskar into a proper guard, since they ain´t got the mandalorian blacksmiths for that. And learning how to work a new material takes time and resources. I agree however that there are multiple shortsights with the saber, including that their are diffrent lightsaber-resistant materials in the galaxy. Cortosis is incredibly dense and brittle, Ultrachrome evaporates by multiple contacts, it´s still used for shields by the Haruun Kal people. Bones are way to difficult to work. Phryk would seem ideal, but it was prominently handled by robotic individuals or droids, so maybe it´s quite heavy, too. We don't know enough about Neuranium, though.
Well put, and intuitive Sir. . .
This reminds me of an episode of Stargate SG-1 where they were offering to give FNP90s to a group of rebel Jaffa and they demonstrate that despite having limited ammo and being less advanced, the P90 proved to be much more effective than the energy staffs the Jaffa used. As Jack O'Niell said, *holding up the staff weapon* "This is a weapon of terror! It is meant to intimidate your enemy! *holds up P90* This is a weapon of war! It is meant to kill your enemy!"
I think that the flaws in the design is definitely intentional. Not only would it catch unprepared Jedi off-guard, potentially costing them their life, but, as you said, it also would've made it much harder for the Inquisitors to rise up 'n' try to take the Empire for themselves.
my favorite saber design has alwase been a curved single blade design. as "cool" as the dual blade style and the crossguard are practical, I just think the curved design maximizes the effectiveness of what the user has. True, it does have the downside of being less effective at blocking blaster bolts, but if a user is skilled enough, they can make up for this.
curved design gives a lot of advantage in lightsaber combat, since the 99% uses normal angled lightsabers. But curved ones are much less predictable which is very beneficial as long as opponent won't get used to it, but it wouldn't probably happen
They still have yet to explain how the spinning saber works. Also a fun fact is that the spinning saber came from a prequel toy. Namely General Gervious' spinning lightsaber toy. I can across one at a Goodwill and at first thought it was a Rebels variant of Inquisitor's saber meant for a light-side force user. Nope to my surprise when looking it up it came from the Revenge of the Sith toy line lol.
I may burst out laughing if one of the inquisitors starts flying like a helicopter using the saber as a propeller in the Kenobi show lmao
love you Dave Filoni but what were you thinking with that design hahaha
I think vader or the emperor gave the inquisitors a bad lightsaber on perpose
The point of this lightsaber is to allow inquisitors to block blaster bolts, soften a fall by using it like a helicopter, spinning it around like darth maul but without the training, skill and force potential. They werent as well trained and needed this advantage to do the things Jedi and Sith lords can do.
Why don’t they just force jump vs using their lightsaber like a helicopter. It’s the force they’re using to fly off that way, not their lightsaber I would think..
@@sattymike0155 yea I’m pretty sure it isn’t the lightsaber spinning that’s making them fly, I think there’s like repulserlifts in the hilt or something, the spinning just looks cool?
Same old thing. the Light saber blade is weightless, so when you see someone swinging it two-handed like a metal blade sword, they become easy targets for those who use Form-2 like Count Doku who holds the weapon like a foil/rapier one handed, or dual wields two blades. Holding the hilt with two hands limits both reach and movement. A hilt with two blades is worse.
The Temple Guards don't wield Saber Pikes, they wield Saber Staffs/Dual Bladed Sabers. Pikes are polearm weapons similar to spears.
I always thought the spinning was for interrogation (both intimidation & to enhance any force abilities), & any spinning during a fight was just for show (I haven't watched 'Rebels' yet).
This explains how the Inquisitor chick was able to so easily kill her boss in Kenobi ep 2. The Inquisitors suck.
I'm pretty sure she used the lightsaber's single-bladed form for that.
As with everything with the Empire (and the fascist regimes that Lucas based them off) its all about the design and impressiveness as opposed to practicality and usefulness.
Other aspect to this is the fact that the blade spins in a particular way so if you were skilled enough you would be able to stop the blade from a full rotation thus not only opening the ability to cut their lightsaber in half but completely destroying their little show
The Inquisitors made me realize how strong Grievous and Ventress actually were, seeing that they actually won sometimes
I think the reason why the weapons of the Inquisitors are designed like this is because Darth Sidious and Darth Vader do not wanted them to have weapons that can help them in overthrowing them easier. So yes, I think this is correct. At the end of the day, it seemed to me that Palpatine knows that the Rule of Two will only work in the shadow and that he will needed an army of Dark Side users to fight the Jedi like during the time when the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire coexisted with one another.
A worse one that one from visions that was a umbrella thingy
It's a nice toy that's great to deal with weak force users or people that are untrained but it makes its user overconfident and since it do the work for you, it also prevent its user to get better through training. It's like giving a calculator to someone who is learning basic maths. It will make things easier for them but also prevent them to learn important fundamentals.
I'd love it if they justified the large profile by emphasizing more on the rotation. It would make sense that using the centripital force would greatly amplyfy their swings since it has the force to lift even the heaviest of them high off the ground .
This lightsaber could be vicious if you use it like a flying buzzsaw. Use the Force to lift it and just fly it around while using the spinning mode. Not sure why any Inquisitor hasn't thought of this, considering using the Force to lift things is literally the first Force ability most learn.
Second sister kinda does this during her final battle
second and ninth sister do this in Jedi Fallen Order
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My headcanon for the helicopter scene is that since lightsabers probably have some sort of electro magnetic force, the spinning thing builds it up to power the repulser lift things built in the saber
Inquisitor's lightsaber has four modes: Single blade- good for fast attacks, Dual bladed- more defensive, Rotation- throwing the enemy off guard, Split- Dual wielding.
There are a few exceptions but this is the general description.
I see a lot of people saying that this saber is just like them, flashy and scary but not actually any threat. And that's true, it really is! But one thing I see less is HOW it causes fear. Not only because seeing this wall of Plasma is very intimidating...but because of one of the empires favorites, the Confederacy. Specifically, this very nicely mimicked General Grievous' use of his lightsabers, using his mechanical hands to spin the man blades into a wall of Plasma and slowly approach the opponent, a fear that not only looks scary but also minicks a REAL threat, the well known Jedi Killer himself, which could strike extra fear into any Jedi who remember or even have seen Grievous in action
Problem is Grevious was a cybernetically enhanced skilled warrior and could easily switch one or more of his arms back to attack regularly, while still having the shield of blades on three other angles. This thing just misses the mark for flash.
I have hated these sabers ever since the Grand Inquisitor first displayed the double blade function of his. I'll admit, part of this is out of spite because I initially thought the GI was using a saber inspired by a rapier. I mean; we have crossguard sabers, why not handguard sabers that'd actually work?
I swear, it must be Vader's idea of a joke to make the Inquisitors use that stupid thing.
I just think it's neat
It does look cool
Just thought of this but a good classification for these types of sabers would be a chakram saber. They look very similar to Zena's yin-yang chakram from later seasons, with the center bar.
I always thought this lightsaber would have been better off for non-force sensitives like mandalorians or clone troopers. Mainly used in the offhand as a shield or convenient door opener. Besides it being a secondary means of flight is an added bonus that can't be underestimated.
I believe the Emperor made them the spiny lightsaber not only to supplement their lacking force abilities, but also to make them overconfident and over reliant on technology with obvious weaknesses that he or Vader could exploit should any inquistor ever try to take over.
could you do more on the evolution of lightsaber styles of different characters like you did with Kenobi
"Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning."
- Maj. Gen. George Hammond, USAF
From memory I thought they were kinda cool and something different in Star Wars...Then it dawned on me looking at the thumbnail for this video that you could defeat them by just hitting the middle...When the lightsaber is spinning its almost like a crosshair to kill them
Great video!