I take it you did not include Yoeleo SAT wheels because they have much since your review some 2 years ago? The specs I have read, they clearly are not entry level
@@cornelhughes6763 Yoeleo doesn’t even sell those wheels anymore, and they were rim brake. I outlined in the video I would be focusing on disc brake 👍🏾
@@PatrickLino would be good if Yoeleo would also sent you their SAT C50|50 DB PRO wheels. I purchased a pair a few weeks ago. Will be picking them up tomorrow. Was more leaning to Elite Wheels drive due especially to their weight but felt pulled to Yoeleo wheels. Anyway liked your review
This video took A LOT of time and effort to create. It's basically an entire year's worth of wheelset review content. Many folks have requested this video, so thank you for your patience! And a tremendous thanks to everyone who are working alongside me during my cycling journey. If you find any of this information helpful, then PLEASE continue to support the channel. Don't forget to leave you questions below for my "Ask Patty" segment in a future video.
Fantastic breakdown of all these options which you've ridden. Also the fact that you've put in the miles on the high-end wheel sets as well as the very bottom of the price spectrum and everything in-between. This just shows how good the Asian carbon wheel tech has come where you can spend less than half of some of the Big name brands and easily get better value and performance. Warranty and the ability to deal with a more local dealer network does matter to some extent but all these companies are needing to up their game because of Winspace, Farsports and Elite Drive. Hopefully you can get the Ascent Polaris 69's and some of the Light Bicycle wheels sent to you in the future as those are also good options. Be safe this winter you Legend and keep up the great content.
I'd be lying if I said a co-sign from the likes of yourself and Galen Kehler wasn't important to me. That means the video did its job. Thank you sir! Just waiting on Galen to chime in LoL. I have a buddy locally here who solely rides those ENVE 5.6 SES wheels. 2 years straight. He recently needed to have them serviced, and the turn around time was less than two weeks door to door. This dude rides about 18,000 miles a year mind you. So from that perspective...the ENVEs are a worthy value to him. Personally speaking though the Winspace, Elite, and FarSports are tough to beat performance wise. I'm really considering reaching out to Ascent, but sadly it's practically winter here now.
Excellent, thoughtful deep-dive. Love videos like this that compare wheels against each other vs reviews of a single set in a vacuum. Keep ‘em coming, and chapeau!
Great video as always, Patrick. For those of us who are deep into Chinese parts, we all accept that there is a price performance trade-off. I like to invoke the 80/20 rule: you'll get 80% there for 20% of the price (mileage varies widely). However, in the carbon wheel space, we truly are spoiled for choice with options that are not only more affordable, but are on par and often better than their mainstream equivalents.
This is an excellent perspective. Thanks 1 Sigma! Considering some of these wheels cost less than half of the popular American brands with top-notch warranty, you could buy two sets of a wheel and not worry about warranty or servicing all together LoL.
You knocked even my $700+ aluminum wheelset, indirectly! Said with face a straight😐. Still, found value in your reviews in general. I dipped my toes in a set of Superteam carbon wheels two months ago and so far, pleased. Time will tell... I am strictly an older fitness rider, aluminum frames only so far (4 bikes, all built by me).
Awesome comparison. I'm considering investing on a pair of Winspace Lun Hyper after watching your video review. I always went for Zipp I have decided to move away from hookless rims. I hope the Lun Hyper is not hookless. Great video!!
Good review and summary. thx! yes all depends on budget, riding style, and how many hills, or lack of them where you ride. For me a shallower depth, reasonably priced wheel with alloy spokes for compliance on our rough roads make the most sense.
My choice came down to the Elite Drive 65 and the Lun Hyper D67. I emailed elite and they were fantastic. I asked for the wheels without decals and they said they could do that. I also wanted them in a matte finish but they couldn’t do that. The D67 with a discount code and the matte finish became the ones. I’m using the new Specialized s-works 2bliss turbo t2/t5 tyres in 28mm and they transition to the rim perfectly. I ran 69f/74r psi for a wet ride and to be honest they felt almost squishy. I think 78r/73f would be perfect for my 90kg.
@@PatrickLino I agree, I’m going to try it a bit higher next time. The SRAM tire pressure calculator says it should be another 10spd lower! Also I’m in the UK where the roads are pretty crappy.
Thanks for this review. Based on your chart I would pick yoeleo 35mm for everyday riding/climbing wheels and the Elite 45 drive for fast rides and all rounder. The price and weight on the elite 45 drive is such a great deal. One thing I am very scared of is that lighter wheels could be a sacrifice to durability. We as riders always think of light weight = less durable. Carbon can only go so "thin" before it borders fragile. I would like to add into the equation of the riders weight and the terrain they ride on can affect the long term durability of the wheels. If you can get your hands on some zipp firecrest I would love to hear your opinion on them as they are the benchmark of wheels here where I live.
Overall system weight is more important than individual component weight. A wheelset 200g heavier than its competition is only like 0.2% of the system weight. I am certain no one will be able to feel such a insignificant difference in weight besides, perhaps world-tour level riders climbing the steepest of mountains.
@@PatrickLino agree on system weight. 200g difference in weight on wheels have zero effect outside of racing. Most of the weight come from the hub which is at the center of a spinning wheel. Weight has been blown out of proportion by consumers not understanding of total system weight. Weight plays no part in performance outside of racing. So much marketing on weight and aero gains in design that people have forgotten the basics of cycling...the legs and fitness of the cardiovascular system...
You should try to get your hands on the Yoeloe Pilot wheels, very light and fast. I run winspace but gave these to my partner and they are really solid. Setting them up was on par with winspace and zipps.
In terms of looks, Enve SES also gets a 10, but I opt for the Lun Hyper for my Allez and Zipp Firecrest on my Factor climber because I like to spend my money wisely
@@PatrickLino not riding in the winter, has been me for years. I tried changing this in 2021, mostly unsuccessfully. I want to change it this year. Thanks always. It's inspiring to see someone who looks like me, including being 6'1" cycling. You're my college weight though.🤔
@@PatrickLino absolutely make a nutrition video! A fitness coach told me in 2009 that nutrition is paramount when considering fitness and weight control. Since April, I lost 35 pounds by routinely burning more calories than I ate or eat.
Thank you for all your efforts and the content you've been presenting, very helpful! Between the Elite and Super Team 50 mm wheels, which of the two have you had the most experience with and would recommend? They are both priced about same, the Elite wheels lighter and hubs I assume are on par with each other.
Thanks for watching! I have not tested the Super Team wheels so can't comment on them. However, I will say I HATE the decals Super Team uses almost to the point of being a deal breaker.
Bro... You put a lot of work into this Video! We appreciate it! I've really been interested in the Elite Drive Wheels. I'd like an extra, more shallow depth wheel to throw on the Trek. Nice work brother!! #RobbArmstrong
Out of curiosity... Miracle Cycling makes Yoeloe frames... But can't see any wheels on the Miracle site. Do you know who makes Yoeleo wheels? Thank you!
What about the sound of the wheels during riding(specifically the deep dish wheels)? I'm not talking about the hub sound. And I am missing the Ventoux S6 EVO Series(Farsports premium wheels) only 1375 grams for the Disc version in 56mm depth. That's very impressive, and no other brand does offer this kind of weight in that depth
Have you ever seen lightweight riders with deep deep wheels I Like 5’8 140lb and I don’t think I would ever ride more than 45 or 50 mil wheels if I’m more suited for climbing should I go shallow or mod depth since I still do a crit every so often
What your choice would be for a non-"speed Junkie"- not racing- optimized for tires between 35-40c with a profile of something between 38-45cm. Cycling mostly on flat tarmac - somewhat rough tarmac and light gravel, on a budget? #all_rounder
Hello. I can’t decide what wheels to buy for my new disk bike. This is my first disk bike. I ride local tt 20k race on my road bike. How would you rate the hyper d67 against the roval rapide cl ii? I am looking for speed over comfort! Thank you, really enjoy your videos.
@@nickquirkeart3287 What I can say is "on paper" The Hyper D67s are closer spec'd to the Roval CLX rather than the lower-tiered CL lineup. The warranty on the Rovals will be "better", while the D67s will be about $500 cheaper.
@@PatrickLino so it’s hard to say a comparison on speed but you have obviously been happy with the d67? I’ve got enve and CK hubs on my rim bike. But don’t want to pay 💵 for another wheelset. Man it is hard licking stiff these days.
@@PatrickLino how much different is fulcrum racing db 400 alu wheel in terms of ride quality, speed, climbing compare to lets say vision 55 sc wheelset
@@PatrickLino lol ok i thought i can ask any questions. Then to your knowledge other than fulcrum racing zero, which aluminium wheel is good in speed and climb
New to your Channel! Just bought a pair of winspace hyper lun ride bikes bro 50 mm RIM BRAKE wheel set for 900 us. They will go on my giant TCR advanced 2 shimano 105 mechanic 2019! No need of all the bs hype of disc brake of even di2 bs. As i ride 15 000 km in the Québec Montreal wheater (only outside) as a bricklayer! STRAVA Étienne roy-fiset. How EVER thanks for the review!
Ask Patty: I see you like your stem slammed, what height difference saddle tip to top of handlebar do you ride (in centimeters, please, you got international followers 😆)
Great Video. I wonder how the new Hypers will perform against the new ENVE 4.5s and 6.7s 2022 and also the new DT Swiss arc 1100 62s which wind tunnel tests have claimed it is the fastest Wheelset on the market (also really expensive). we need those tests. thank you again for sharing.
From a performance standpoint I imagine they all will perform extremely well. The warranty/service of ENVE will be far better, however that comes with twice the price of Winspace. Also keep in mind ENVE is moving to hookless wheels only, which some folks find very problematic.
I’ve always felt that budget is the least important factor. Your either buy the best wheel that suits your needs, or you don’t at all. Anything in the middle is a waste of good money.
@@PatrickLino A tubeless tire blew off the rim while I was riding. Elite only gave me the option of a rebuild and called it an accident. I have been riding tubeless tires for two years and known how to seat them to a wheel.
A couple times I have passed you cycling the opposite direction on the NBT as me. What is an appropriate thing for me to shout? Once I realize that it's you, the moment has passed.
@@downlaw Honestly you could probably sell your 303s, and still have enough money for a brand new set of Magene EXAR 508s. 23mm internal, 30mm external, HOOKED, carbon spokes, ceramic bearings. You get the point LoL
If a wheelset is NOT mentioned in this video, that means I have NOT tested it.
I take it you did not include Yoeleo SAT wheels because they have much since your review some 2 years ago? The specs I have read, they clearly are not entry level
@@cornelhughes6763 Yoeleo doesn’t even sell those wheels anymore, and they were rim brake. I outlined in the video I would be focusing on disc brake 👍🏾
@@PatrickLino would love to get your thoughts on ICAN wheels. Maybe a future video?
@@BS-jb9wv Hopefully they can send me some out to test!
@@PatrickLino would be good if Yoeleo would also sent you their SAT C50|50 DB PRO wheels. I purchased a pair a few weeks ago. Will be picking them up tomorrow. Was more leaning to Elite Wheels drive due especially to their weight but felt pulled to Yoeleo wheels. Anyway liked your review
4:28 -VeloBuild Generic 38mm 1778g
5:18 -Yoeleo SL 35mm Gravel 1466g
6:06 -Enve G23 Gravel 1371g
6:54 -Elite Drive 45D 1288g
7:41 -FarSports Ventoux C4 EVO 1440g
9:23 -Magene EXAR DB58 Pro 1539g
10:20 -Enve 5.6 SES 1611g
11:21 -Winspace Hyper 65 1615g
12:09 -Elite Drive 65D 1488g
13:04 -Winspace Lun Hyper D67 1552g
This man deserve a prize. Thanks JFomo 💪🏾
This video took A LOT of time and effort to create. It's basically an entire year's worth of wheelset review content. Many folks have requested this video, so thank you for your patience! And a tremendous thanks to everyone who are working alongside me during my cycling journey. If you find any of this information helpful, then PLEASE continue to support the channel. Don't forget to leave you questions below for my "Ask Patty" segment in a future video.
Watching your videos why I got the elite drives.
@@earicm40 Wicked!
HaHa!! I was jus saying that in my Comment, 😂 Nice Work‼
#RobbArmstrong
Fantastic breakdown of all these options which you've ridden. Also the fact that you've put in the miles on the high-end wheel sets as well as the very bottom of the price spectrum and everything in-between. This just shows how good the Asian carbon wheel tech has come where you can spend less than half of some of the Big name brands and easily get better value and performance. Warranty and the ability to deal with a more local dealer network does matter to some extent but all these companies are needing to up their game because of Winspace, Farsports and Elite Drive. Hopefully you can get the Ascent Polaris 69's and some of the Light Bicycle wheels sent to you in the future as those are also good options. Be safe this winter you Legend and keep up the great content.
I'd be lying if I said a co-sign from the likes of yourself and Galen Kehler wasn't important to me. That means the video did its job. Thank you sir! Just waiting on Galen to chime in LoL. I have a buddy locally here who solely rides those ENVE 5.6 SES wheels. 2 years straight. He recently needed to have them serviced, and the turn around time was less than two weeks door to door. This dude rides about 18,000 miles a year mind you. So from that perspective...the ENVEs are a worthy value to him. Personally speaking though the Winspace, Elite, and FarSports are tough to beat performance wise. I'm really considering reaching out to Ascent, but sadly it's practically winter here now.
Excellent, thoughtful deep-dive. Love videos like this that compare wheels against each other vs reviews of a single set in a vacuum. Keep ‘em coming, and chapeau!
Phew! Thanks for watching and the support Matthew
Great video as always, Patrick.
For those of us who are deep into Chinese parts, we all accept that there is a price performance trade-off. I like to invoke the 80/20 rule: you'll get 80% there for 20% of the price (mileage varies widely).
However, in the carbon wheel space, we truly are spoiled for choice with options that are not only more affordable, but are on par and often better than their mainstream equivalents.
This is an excellent perspective. Thanks 1 Sigma! Considering some of these wheels cost less than half of the popular American brands with top-notch warranty, you could buy two sets of a wheel and not worry about warranty or servicing all together LoL.
You knocked even my $700+ aluminum wheelset, indirectly! Said with face a straight😐. Still, found value in your reviews in general. I dipped my toes in a set of Superteam carbon wheels two months ago and so far, pleased. Time will tell...
I am strictly an older fitness rider, aluminum frames only so far (4 bikes, all built by me).
Thanks for watching!
I have some *SuperTeeam TT wheels that I have about 3,500 miles on!! Extremely happy with them!
#RobbArmstrong
@@RobbArmstrong1 time to review them yo
That's a lot of wheels, a lot of hard work and still clear and concise as per usual.
Thank you kind sir
Fantastic video! Glad to see a comparison from someone who has actually ridden the wheel they are reviewing! Keep up the sick work!
Thanks for stopping through!
Awesome comparison. I'm considering investing on a pair of Winspace Lun Hyper after watching your video review. I always went for Zipp I have decided to move away from hookless rims. I hope the Lun Hyper is not hookless. Great video!!
Thanks for watching!
Good review and summary. thx! yes all depends on budget, riding style, and how many hills, or lack of them where you ride. For me a shallower depth, reasonably priced wheel with alloy spokes for compliance on our rough roads make the most sense.
Thanks for watching!
My choice came down to the Elite Drive 65 and the Lun Hyper D67.
I emailed elite and they were fantastic. I asked for the wheels without decals and they said they could do that. I also wanted them in a matte finish but they couldn’t do that.
The D67 with a discount code and the matte finish became the ones.
I’m using the new Specialized s-works 2bliss turbo t2/t5 tyres in 28mm and they transition to the rim perfectly. I ran 69f/74r psi for a wet ride and to be honest they felt almost squishy. I think 78r/73f would be perfect for my 90kg.
Dang that PSI seems low for your weight, no?
@@PatrickLino I agree, I’m going to try it a bit higher next time. The SRAM tire pressure calculator says it should be another 10spd lower! Also I’m in the UK where the roads are pretty crappy.
Thanks for this review.
Based on your chart I would pick yoeleo 35mm for everyday riding/climbing wheels and the Elite 45 drive for fast rides and all rounder. The price and weight on the elite 45 drive is such a great deal.
One thing I am very scared of is that lighter wheels could be a sacrifice to durability. We as riders always think of light weight = less durable. Carbon can only go so "thin" before it borders fragile.
I would like to add into the equation of the riders weight and the terrain they ride on can affect the long term durability of the wheels.
If you can get your hands on some zipp firecrest I would love to hear your opinion on them as they are the benchmark of wheels here where I live.
Overall system weight is more important than individual component weight. A wheelset 200g heavier than its competition is only like 0.2% of the system weight. I am certain no one will be able to feel such a insignificant difference in weight besides, perhaps world-tour level riders climbing the steepest of mountains.
@@PatrickLino agree on system weight. 200g difference in weight on wheels have zero effect outside of racing. Most of the weight come from the hub which is at the center of a spinning wheel.
Weight has been blown out of proportion by consumers not understanding of total system weight. Weight plays no part in performance outside of racing. So much marketing on weight and aero gains in design that people have forgotten the basics of cycling...the legs and fitness of the cardiovascular system...
@@bonbonflippers4298 I could NOT agree with you more! Thanks BF!
Great review PL!!… I actually turned off MNF to watch this… 😆… very comprehensive and thorough… 🍻
Haha i live you bruh 🤣
@@PatrickLino It was easy… listen to you or watch two sub .500 NFL teams struggle with each other… 😆😆😆
@@CycoWarriorx My fantasy team is TRASH this year. Last year I was runner-up in my league, and this year I wont even make .500 🤣
@@PatrickLino 😆🤦🏽♂️😆
You should try to get your hands on the Yoeloe Pilot wheels, very light and fast. I run winspace but gave these to my partner and they are really solid. Setting them up was on par with winspace and zipps.
Good to know, thank youuu!
Actually...I forgot that I am in fact working on getting a set 🤣
Thanks for this. I'm finally replacing gravel bike and this is helpful as I need to balance wheel cost against group set cost.
If only we all had an unlimited budget for bikes.
Thanks for sharing the summary table. Easy to compare and understand. Good job.
Thanks for watching 👍🏾👍🏾
Well done Patrick. Wheels for days! Your data base will give cyclist a good reference point for sure👍🏾
Much appreciated Luis 🙏🏾
Really good analysis and non biased comparison. You get my like and my sub.
Thank you kind sir. Hope it was helpful
Great review thanks for an excellent and thorough explaination ❤
Thank you so much. Especially helpful as my riding terrain similar to yours! Much appreciated!!!
Thanks Richard! Glad it was helpful
In terms of looks, Enve SES also gets a 10, but I opt for the Lun Hyper for my Allez and Zipp Firecrest on my Factor climber because I like to spend my money wisely
Mr. Lino, do you have any winter gear videos? I am looking for hands and feet gear. Thanks in advance...
My winter gear choice is Zwift 🤣. Don’t really ride much in the winter
@@PatrickLino not riding in the winter, has been me for years. I tried changing this in 2021, mostly unsuccessfully. I want to change it this year.
Thanks always. It's inspiring to see someone who looks like me, including being 6'1" cycling. You're my college weight though.🤔
@@MauriSky2437 Perhaps I should make a video on my nutrition and eating habits 🤔
@@PatrickLino absolutely make a nutrition video! A fitness coach told me in 2009 that nutrition is paramount when considering fitness and weight control. Since April, I lost 35 pounds by routinely burning more calories than I ate or eat.
Excellent reviews - great overall video. 👏🏼👊🏻🙌🏻
Thank you Duncan!!
This is really good! Well done!
Thanks Gerben! Took me the entire work day yesterday to prep, film, edit, and upload 😭
Outstanding work! Thanks Patrick!
I appreciate the support Jesse. Hope it was helpful
Thank you for all your efforts and the content you've been presenting, very helpful! Between the Elite and Super Team 50 mm wheels, which of the two have you had the most experience with and would recommend? They are both priced about same, the Elite wheels lighter and hubs I assume are on par with each other.
Thanks for watching! I have not tested the Super Team wheels so can't comment on them. However, I will say I HATE the decals Super Team uses almost to the point of being a deal breaker.
Brilliant summary. Hoping that if a mad elf doesn’t leave me a set of D67s, maybe a rabid bunny will this spring 🤞🏼
Thanks Walt! I may have to do a follow up video to make some clarifications. May have ruffled some feathers 🤣
@@PatrickLino the aero wheel mafia is looking to break some kneecaps!!
Patrick where would you rank the Craft Wheels? 😊
My Top 3 All-Time (in 2024). No particular order: Hyper D67, Magene DB508 Ultra, Craft Wheels CS5060.
I really needed that, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Bro... You put a lot of work into this Video! We appreciate it! I've really been interested in the Elite Drive Wheels. I'd like an extra, more shallow depth wheel to throw on the Trek. Nice work brother!!
#RobbArmstrong
Thanks bruh! #salute
Spot on Patrick, very informative 👍
Thanks Iain! Sadly, I don't know how more wheels I'll be able to review for 2023 😭
Have you had a chance to check out the Fast-forward Ryot wheels?
Not yet! I suspect they would be difficult to my get hands on sadly
7:42 need that chain and the blue rear cog ! What lube you use ? The chain remains clear all the time ?
Squirt wax lube for the win!
Out of curiosity... Miracle Cycling makes Yoeloe frames... But can't see any wheels on the Miracle site. Do you know who makes Yoeleo wheels? Thank you!
Probably best to ask Yoeleo...
Wao new to your channel bro nice 👍 video with details on point love from New York
Thanks Vlad! I very much appreciate it
Do anyone knows, what bike is shown at 5:12 ?
Velobuild 177
Just discovering your channel, looking forward to future videos.
Salute Chris!
What about the sound of the wheels during riding(specifically the deep dish wheels)? I'm not talking about the hub sound. And I am missing the Ventoux S6 EVO Series(Farsports premium wheels) only 1375 grams for the Disc version in 56mm depth. That's very impressive, and no other brand does offer this kind of weight in that depth
LoL I have not reviewed the Ventoux S6 EVO, which is why they aren't in the video 🤷🏾♂️
@@PatrickLino fair enough. What about the woosh sound while riding the winspace d67 and drive 65?
Have you ever seen lightweight riders with deep deep wheels I Like 5’8 140lb and I don’t think I would ever ride more than 45 or 50 mil wheels if I’m more suited for climbing should I go shallow or mod depth since I still do a crit every so often
50mm depth max
What your choice would be for a non-"speed Junkie"- not racing- optimized for tires between 35-40c with a profile of something between 38-45cm. Cycling mostly on flat tarmac - somewhat rough tarmac and light gravel, on a budget? #all_rounder
Take a look at Light Bicycle 👍🏾
Hello. I can’t decide what wheels to buy for my new disk bike. This is my first disk bike. I ride local tt 20k race on my road bike. How would you rate the hyper d67 against the roval rapide cl ii? I am looking for speed over comfort! Thank you, really enjoy your videos.
Just seen your comments re wheels that aren’t mentioned above. No worries.
@@nickquirkeart3287 Are you planning to use a full disc wheel in the rear?
@@PatrickLino no just a fast road set
@@nickquirkeart3287 What I can say is "on paper" The Hyper D67s are closer spec'd to the Roval CLX rather than the lower-tiered CL lineup. The warranty on the Rovals will be "better", while the D67s will be about $500 cheaper.
@@PatrickLino so it’s hard to say a comparison on speed but you have obviously been happy with the d67? I’ve got enve and CK hubs on my rim bike. But don’t want to pay 💵 for another wheelset. Man it is hard licking stiff these days.
Awesome video!
Thanks for watching!
You should make this sort of vid about al the frames you’ve riden
It’s tempting…🤣
Well done 👍🏼
thanks for watching!
Can stock aluminium wheel say like fulcrum racing 400 comparable to 55mm deep section wheel?
Repeat question.
I've heard dt Swiss and Tune both make great aluminum rims. Anyone else know?
@@PatrickLino how much different is fulcrum racing db 400 alu wheel in terms of ride quality, speed, climbing compare to lets say vision 55 sc wheelset
@@raymondl1182 that wheel isn’t in this video my friend LoL, because I have not tested it
@@PatrickLino lol ok i thought i can ask any questions. Then to your knowledge other than fulcrum racing zero, which aluminium wheel is good in speed and climb
Great Video!!!!
Thank youuuu 🙏🏾
What are those pedals at 10:24 ? I like 😁
Power Meter pedals
Have you compared Chinese wheels against big brands? Is there any risks for going for the good value Chinese wheels?
no risk
New to your Channel! Just bought a pair of winspace hyper lun ride bikes bro 50 mm RIM BRAKE wheel set for 900 us. They will go on my giant TCR advanced 2 shimano 105 mechanic 2019! No need of all the bs hype of disc brake of even di2 bs. As i ride 15 000 km in the Québec Montreal wheater (only outside) as a bricklayer! STRAVA Étienne roy-fiset. How EVER thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Great and informative. What about Zipp 404 Disc Firecrest 2022? Thanks.
Haven't tried those...
Patty Score > Doug Score
💯💯💯VERY INFORMATIVE! Thank you 💯💯💯
Thanks for watching!
Ask Patty: I see you like your stem slammed, what height difference saddle tip to top of handlebar do you ride (in centimeters, please, you got international followers 😆)
You are literally the only person so far to follow directions, and ask me a question for "Ask Patty". Thank you Martin! haha
do u stiĺl consider of using alloy wheels these days?
Absolutely not.
Great job
Thanks for watching! 💪🏾💪🏾
Great Video. I wonder how the new Hypers will perform against the new ENVE 4.5s and 6.7s 2022 and also the new DT Swiss arc 1100 62s which wind tunnel tests have claimed it is the fastest Wheelset on the market (also really expensive). we need those tests. thank you again for sharing.
From a performance standpoint I imagine they all will perform extremely well. The warranty/service of ENVE will be far better, however that comes with twice the price of Winspace. Also keep in mind ENVE is moving to hookless wheels only, which some folks find very problematic.
Real world s$%t!!!!! This is what I like. Good job. I'm subscribing now!!!
Yessssss! I’m trying to get to 10k subs…by 2024 🤣
I have the hyper 50s and man i just wish they would do the logo more discrete, that HYPER can be seen from miles away lol.
HYPERRRRRRRRRR
😂😂😂 .. love my Hyper 50s
Hilarious intro!
Bye bye ‘stache!
Great vid
I’ve always felt that budget is the least important factor. Your either buy the best wheel that suits your needs, or you don’t at all.
Anything in the middle is a waste of good money.
Awesome
Omg so much WHEELS
Still not enough LoL
Waiting for the 2025 version of this epic 👀
Bruh that video finna be an hour long 😭😭
@PatrickLino fck yea. Just like sitting down for a podcast. We're here for it (don't mind the haters)
Paid , $500 Elite BWS 50's .. no1 is touching this cost/performance beast!!
Let me borrow them so I can see for myself!!!
@@PatrickLino .. call suki .. 😃
proX?
What’s that?
@@PatrickLino light carbons wheel division
@@johnnyboy4711 nice, thanks. 👍🏾
Try light bicycle wheels, they balance weight, price and quality perfectly.
Can you send me a pair please!??
I own the Elite drive 50D and their warranty backing is not great. I would take another 5 points away from them on the value!
What happened?
@@PatrickLino A tubeless tire blew off the rim while I was riding. Elite only gave me the option of a rebuild and called it an accident. I have been riding tubeless tires for two years and known how to seat them to a wheel.
@@georgepepper5993 yikes
😊
Yoeleo for aero? Hunt for aero? Scribe for aero? How would they fit?
LoL neither Hunt nor Scribe are in this video...because I have not tested them my friend.
#AskPatty flats or drums?
Chicken thighs - which coincidentally I bake every Monday including tonight 🤣
A value category, and a price category almost means the same thing. I feel like this is throwing them off your point system.
The ranking stands
A couple times I have passed you cycling the opposite direction on the NBT as me. What is an appropriate thing for me to shout? Once I realize that it's you, the moment has passed.
you could call me by my name.
"Hey Patty!" is also acceptable 🤣
😮❤
🥸😂😂
Thanks for watching!
Men... yikes. The only good reason to shave a stash.
Yikes! 🤣
Why doing this to your valves? They don't deserve this !
Simply to upset you personally 🤣
How is this In depth? 😒
It's not supposed to be in depth. 🤡
Yikes!
Crazy how time flies.
@@PatrickLino thanks for making this video. I wish I would’ve seen it before I bought my Zipp 303’s. Not that I don’t like them.
@@downlaw Honestly you could probably sell your 303s, and still have enough money for a brand new set of Magene EXAR 508s. 23mm internal, 30mm external, HOOKED, carbon spokes, ceramic bearings. You get the point LoL