@@aus822 that's two steps below pure evil. 2 is Ekrizdis - Mad/obsessed evil. Doesn't give a f about anything else. 1 is Devil himself just push evil thoughts into beings and enjoy
I love the lore behind Ekrizdis. I would love a book or film about Ekrizdis and the Wizards who discovered the fort filled with all his wild, twisted experiments and terrifying creations would be amazing (especially if it were 15/18/R rated)
The last time I was this early, Voldemort was still answering to the name "Tom Riddle" and hadn't made any horcruxes yet! We know from Grindelwald's hope that the Resurrection Stone could help him create "an army of inferi" that they pre-dated Voldy.
Even though I don’t really like the film adaptation of Half Blood Prince, I can’t deny that the cave scene with the inferi wasn’t amazing. Gives me chills every time. 👍🏻
I don't think you're really looking in the right place, and I don't think the original inventor of the inferi is something that would go down in history. Unlike the Basilisk, Dementors or Horcruxes, Inferi arent their own unique dark creation, but rather the natural, albeit extremely morbid, endpoint for animation magic. Really the only difference between Mcgonagall awakening the castle decorations to defend Hogwarts and the inferi in the cave is that Voldemort is using a much more complicated and taboo medium
I sure do love it when people in the comments give information that's literally in the video, thinking they've given us a big piece of information. I love to point and say, "Ha! That one didn't watch the video."
I'm not sure who might've created the first one but im inclined to believe harry is right about becoming one if he was drowned. My idea is that after the curse was initially set up by Voldemort it could be kept running off of the horrorcrux at it's center. like a power source for renewable dark energy or maybe just an artifact that contained the dark lord's will to keep up the curse
How would the horcrux be an energy source for RENEWABLE dark energy? In any sane explanation of such, dark energy would need to be renewed, recharged or enervated by a power that itself increased from an outside source. From whence derives the renewing energy? What is this mystical outside source? Dark energy, as probably completely misunderstood by Cosmetologists (:, is an unexplained repulsive force that pushes everything away. Galaxy clusters flee before it. Were dark energy to be significantly locally renewed, the H2O in the lake and the Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen (plus insignificant pollutants) of the Inferi, would have been dispersed as a noxious and flammable gas with the unfortunate result that Dumbledore's flaming wand trick would have instigated a significant fuel air explosion. That would have resolved Voldemort's future problems but would also have reduced the Harry Potter saga to a shortened and unsatisfying end. Therefore, I think we can confidentially eliminate renewing dark energy from the plot. I suspect Rowling anticipated this as well so eliminated its presence in the narrative.
@@gregorydamario7977 when I said "Dark Energy" I meant something more along the lines of black magic, not functional antigravity. Also why would your dark energy need to be renewed, I'd love to hear your reasoning. Until then this is Harry Potter not Green Lantern.
When Harry and Dumbledore went to the cave, the false Horcrux they got was the one RAB put in there and let's not forget that Voldemort never know about it. So, I believe RAB turned into an Inferius without Voldemort even know what had happen. So, I assume the cursed water is enough to turn anyone into an Inferius
Well, Inferi are basically zombies, more specifically Voodoo zombies, that person creates as slave, something, that lives (or technically doesn't live) only to serve someone, who created it, so I think, that the most probable origin is on Caribbean Islands.
The inverse would be that voodoo magic comes from some muggles seeing real magic and trying desperately to imitate it. In another video it’s suggested Avada Kedavra comes from Abra Kedabra - I think that’s the inverse too. The curse would have been so notorious that some muggles might even have overheard wizard’s hushed whispers about it - but without the context to know what it is, just that it’s apparently a magic incantation.
One thing I like about The HP world is all the implied mystery of magic from around the world. We see magical history through the European lens and the how they’re type of magic is constructed, but there has to be multiple other spells and origins of spells and curses that are lost or easily altered in Magic’s history. Like muggle history isn’t perfect so I’d have to think human wizards follow a similar pattern, such as repressing goblins and house elves to being inferior that how magic and spells came into being would be debated intensely.
Even though it's in the restricted section of the Hogwarts library, why would they even have such a book In the school? If anything the book needs to be locked in a vault somewhere in the ministry. It's not like the restricted section has good security.Also, any student with the malicious intent to use the dark arts can probs break in. (Cough* Slytherins)
Lol ironically, Harry brakes Into the restricted section to learn about Nicholas flammel and the sorcerer's stone. 🤣 Shoutout to all my fellow hufflepuffs.
Maybe a hint to actual restricted sections of forbidden books we in real life have in universities. For example in Germany Hitlers mein kampf was long forbidden to own and read but the history sections of many university's held a copy in restricted areas that could be retrieved by history students who where trustful enough to understand and study it.
If I was in Hogwarts I'd totally break into the restricted section to learn all I could about the dark arts Ig defense against the dark arts would be ok but my priorities would be to learn the dark arts
Well if we combine real life mythology (assuming for a second that the events of our world translate to good degree to the fictional muggle world), I would assume that the first inferi were created in ancient Mesopotamia. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, the goddess Ishtar promises to raise the dead and this is the oldest account of the walking undead in fiction/mythology. I would like to believe that Ishtar wasn't a real goddess but in actually an ancient Dark Witch in the Harry Potter Universe, who created the first inferius. It would also be interesting to have powerful dark witch roaming around at one point as most notable Dark wizards are men and would mix things up a bit. So I would date it back so far. Since her time, it is likely that several dark wizards, like Godelot and Ekrizdis created their own Inferi, though no one was ever as successful as she had been until Voldemort, who might have surpassed her in his quest to push the boundaries of magic further than anyone before (it is unlikely that he was solely talking about his immortality when he said that, seeing his other abilities). With Grindelwald, I always got the idea that he was able to create them but not to the degree he wanted. He wanted a true army of the undead, that would fight for him but likely also could follow strategy and what not. He might have been able to re-animate a few corpses (there were mentions of his twisted experiments at Durmstrang, so he likely might have tried his hand on necromancy with small animals in these days) and give them pretty basic instructions but nothing to the point that they were useful for his cause. In my mind, he likely wasn't able to create enough (as it likely is quite exhausting magic) and he didn't had the control he wanted. With the Resurrection Stone, he might have been able to amplify his abilities in this field. With Voldemort, I do get the feeling he found a way to curse the lake into an Inferi factory (which is why I would think he might have surpassed Ishtar, if she really was the original creator). The spell itself must have been hard to perform but once in place, it would work itself. And I feel the resurrection process was the hardest part as the imprinted instruction in the Inferi is quite simple: if anyone touches the water, kill them and if anyone tries to summon the horcrux, block it. Another interesting thing about the Inferi lake, is the amount of bodies. I'm under the impression, he couldn't have done this alone and got help from other wizards and witches. They helped him kill and collect those muggles and once he believed he had enough, he killed the hired help as well, ensuring more corpses for the lake as well as keeping his true objective and the cave as a whole a secret...
I like this. My thoughts went also to the Egyptians or Mesopotamians. Cool you know this first mentioning of these undead. I myself imagine Ishtar still as a Godess, but a priestess of here I would 'like' as an evil witch.
@@edopronk1303 Thank you. My first thought for my theory was some ancient or medieval wizard being the first but then I decided to look up if I could find the oldest possible mention of zombies/undead and I came across a passage from the Epic of Gilgamesh which would be the first mention. The idea that is the oldest known source that mentioned the undead and specifically spoke of "raising the dead", made it perfect to be linked to Harry Potter Universe in general and to the Inferi in particular. The reason why I would re-imagine Ishtar in this context as a dark witch, is because I don't feel like gods and truely divine beings would really work in the Harry Potter universe. Therefore, I am more inclined that most gods, prophets and saints in the muggle world, would have been wizards and witches (in the HP Universe).
Considering the archetype of the Undead has been around since freaking Babylone , and that many myths and legends are twisted witness accounts of magic and magical creatures by muggles in the HP universe, I would say the creator of the Inferi is a very ancient dark wizard or witch that even the wizards don’t remember the name off ! It’s like asking who the hell created the vampires , or the lycan virus !
I don't think that someone named Godelot would be a dark wizard. The name is a diminutive form of names all containing root god- and something positive. That's not a name for someone dark and vile. Godelot's decision not to include more info on horcruxes and his choice of book's name (Magick Moste Evil) are two more arguments against him being truly dark wizard. This sounds like a work of someone trying to warn others against the dangers of the dark magic, not someone intent on teaching it. This might also be a reason for why it was included in Hogwart's Library. Yes, Godelot was a master of the Elder Wand, but that doesn't mean he absolutely had to kill in order to become one, simple Expelliarmus is enough as we've seen in Half-blood Prince. Last but not least - yes, he is described as being "unpleasant character", but that doesn't mean he really was dark wizard - he might've been just a little bit of an asshole. Or he might've stared into the abbyss for too long and it stared back into him, staining him and making him unpleasant, not the other way around. This being said, I think that Emeric the Evil might be a better candidate for a title of inferi creator. The hint is already there :) . Another candidate might be Herpo the Foul (I can imagine the proces to be really nasty, so it might have be a reason for his label). I will leave you with a question though. What if the creator of inferi was Antioch Peverell? It would fit together nicely with the overall theme of death of the Hallows. Or maybe the Stone of Resurrection was a part of the ritual that created them (this would not rule Herpo out though, he still could be the creator of inferi but use more complicated way that was just simplified with stone and more powerful wand).
I've often theorized that the person(s) Voldemort killed to create the horcrux in the locket (and perhaps the other other horcrux) was in fact the first of the Inferi. Also that it was not the Inferi themselves who enacted the curse but was instead the lake. First kill the person you wish to use in the ritual to create your first horcrux. Then perform your enchantment to charm the lake and curse its waters to purify, preserve, reanimate, and bind any "deceased" body that fell into under your control. From there every poor unfortunate soul who would be dragged beneath the lake's surface would instantly become a new Inferi to add to your ever growing protective army. . . . At least that's what I would do if I was a dark witch/wizard.
First creator of the Inferi, I think, would be the 2nd Peverel brother when he used the resurrection stone to be with his wife. Although that could just be a prototype.
In Harry Potter the difference between soul and body really matters a lot. A person is basicly the soul, the body is just a shell to live on earth. The power of the resurrection stone is so significant because it can bring people back that have "moved on". Normally a soul can not completly exist on earth once it has passed the great door called death. An inferius is the opposite. The soulless body is reused by an other witch or wizard, the shell serves now an other purpose. I mean one should not really care if he becomes an inferi since the soul is detached from the body in death and has moved on to another place. It's like dangling a corpse on ropes except it's magic. I think this is the difference between the resurrection stone and inferi. Although it's possible that the first ever inferi was invented accidentally by Cadmus Peverell in an attempt to bring back the dead.
@@glebjohnson9057 in that line of thinking, a victim of the dementor's kiss is also quite close to an inferi. In fact, one might be more useful dead than 'alive' that way - I can see an evil witch-scientist start out to create the inferi that way.
@@derianvandalsen In fact a victim of the Dementor's kiss is very close to an inferius, yes. It's a human body on earth without a soul, except that in the first case the soul was sucked out of the living person and is lost forever while the inferius is dead beforehand and then reanimated without the soul. For the person it matters a lot but the result is almost the same. I wouldn't mind being an inferius but I would never suffer the Dementor's kiss. It's litteraly the worst that could happen to anyone because death, the big thing waiting and ending all suffering on earth, is denied for eternity and these people are trapped who knows where.
@@derianvandalsen That is a very interesting idea. Dumbledore said that creating a horcrux with a living being is possible but also dangerous because it can move and think for itself. With Harry we see the dualism of souls but when one would take the soulless body of a kissed person would it be like a second person since it is the only soul inside the body?
I have to imagine inferi, or at least some kind of proto-inferi, are an ancient kind of magic. I can even imagine one being created by accident: by a well-intentioned magic user trying to revive a dead loved one, for instance. I find it hard to believe magic like this wasn't seriously attempted until the middle ages, let alone until Voldemort's lifetime.
"to undertake perilous jobs for its master." Like going out to get a pack of smokes and a gallon of milk.....unlike certain wizard fathers, a Inferi actually 'will' be back.
I'm guessing Ekrisdis made dementors and inferi cause he wished to become immortal but didn't know how to make a horcrux. So he would end up attempting either to make a bootleg horcrux or trying to find a way to preserve his soul or body in a manner that could still influence the living world. Inferi were the body part of it while dementors were the twisted and mangled souls, he ideally wanted both for obvious reasons but never quite managed it (if he managed it, then he would probably still be around or there would be a story about a wizard managing to kill him). Ekrisdis either died before he could perfect the means of basically becoming a lich or desperately tried the experiments on himself as he found his life fading and ended up becoming another dementor (losing his identity in the process).
Also, my theory is that Ekrizdis may have actually been the first dementor. Think about it. He literarly behaved like a dementor: reciwving pleasure from the suffering and despair he imbued into his victims. What if his experiments lead him to discover a spell that would allow him to become an immortal being capable of surviving purely and literarly by sucking the happiness and souls out of people? I'm sure he'd love that. On top of that, dementors reproduce asexually, meaning that even one dementor could have, in theory, spawned every single dementor in existance today. This is just my two cents on the issue.
I can't watch that scene in the movie, where they're in the cave. I can't handle watching an old man suffer. I know it's not real, but it's too difficult for me to watch.
Y'know, I wonder how many of Voldemort's curses, charms, enchantments, and spells broke when he died. Did these inferi become corpses again? Did the cave become safe to go into once again? Did any concealment charms have broken?
I'd guess not, just given the tone of anything to do with Voldemort. I imagine there would be quite some time after his death during which curse breakers would hunt down places, objects, and people he cursed. It'd be analogous to finding mass graves and mine fields after modern wars.
it just occurred to me, the inferi, the drink, and the blood sacrifice were useless. from what we know, everyone that managed to find the cave got past all three parts. the only thing that prevented more people from reaching the horcrux was it being hidden in this remote cave simply because that makes no sense, there must have been others that reached the cave that didnt make it to the horcrux
That's not entirely accurate. RAB only stole the locket because house elf magic by breaks the rules of magic, however he was killed by the cave. The main flaw with the cave however is that it assumes anyone who went to the cave would do so alone, part of voldemort's hubris. RAB got the locket out because he relied on Kreature to do that bit of the job. Harry and Dumbledore got the fake locket out because they worked together. Each precaution is effective, but is defeated by team work. Obviously there's then the army of inferni, and I can't think of many wizards besides Dumbledore, who would've been able to escape that.
My theory is that akristus killed the muggle sailors by using every 3 unforgivable curses but I think if he created the inferi he tried turning them into horcruxes for his own army of life source but in the process it failed creating the dementors and all his soul was gone into the dementors he eventually died and became a dementor himself or his dementors killed him and he became inferi
Well we from the other franchises call it base level necromancy. There is a DnD story from GM, about the big bad evil guy being a master necromancer with a good twist. It was the best portrayal of necromancy and how a mere tool can't be evil, just the ends of it's usage.
Thank you for the in depth and spooky info about a frightening and mysterious corner of the Dark Arts. I like how it's pretty much left to the imagination as to where the Inferi came from and who or what they were to begin with. What is the music playing underneath?
I was just kind of opened the page of the Cave chapter to read when this video popped up and this just is a question I never thought of before. Very interesting and well done Harry Potter Theory!
Maybe it actually was the resurrection stone. It had been in Tom's family for decades and if it was doable with the elder wand then Grindelwald would have achieved it because the dark arts book seems like it would be a "must read" for anyone wanting to dabble in the dark arts
I like how every time he talks about Acrizdis (ik it's probably spelled wrong), he says 'No one even knows his nationality, and even if it was known, I'm sure no one would want to claim ownership of him'. LIKE EVERY TIME
I have a theroy about the water. It can be that water is cursed, but it creates only "low quality" Inferi, that can perform only few/simple tasks (like - drown anyone who touches the water) and also has damaged bodies. But you can create Inferi, that are almost undistinguishable from living people (except from the cloudy eyes) and can perform more/complicated tasks (yet still not at the level of living person). There might be some problems with this so if you see some, please point them. I also had my own theory, about who and how created them, but when you mentioned Godelot, it fell apart, because Godelot lived most probably before Ekrizdis and it's also probable, that the spell was in that book (and he would surely wanted to put his own spell there).
i dont even think that movie flame and harry potter folklore can beat this channel but it would be better if you could start using clips from the movies instead of images from the movies it would make it more interactive
Could you make an inferi a horcrux ? if that's possible I wonder how putting a part of your soul into a corpse would change it or won't it. Perhaps make an inferi a horcrux and have it stay buried as an actual dead body would be in a cemetery.
This whole Harry Potter universe is so real and Believable 🤔 makes me wonder if JK Rolling is witch herself who lived in that times and now Plays role of a magl 🤔 good cover up story
i have a small theory, correct me if i am wrong... in the books harry used the summoning charm, so it clearly means that magic was possible in the cave... and it is mentioned that the inferi will "sort- of" get activated if the water is disturbed? right? so why dumbledore and harry just didn't use apparition?? simply disapparated and apparated near the horcrux??
Only house elves have magic powerful enough to bypass wizard made spells. Which is why kreature was able to escape when voldemort used him as a puppet to test his trap
@@Ayugeti yes that i know, but why Dumbledore and harry didn't use apparition?? I know harry didn't knew how to apparate but Dumbledore was very well versed with situations or I should say he guessed the situations.. so why he did not took an extra care and simply apparated with holding harry's hand??
That is a good question, and I think the answer to that is something like this. We know from the series that it is possible to perform magic at Hogwarts, but that the school and its grounds have a spell on them that keeps anyone from apparating there. Most likely, Voldemort put a similar spell on the cave, so that magic would work in general, but preventing specific spells that would help anyone bypass the obstacles and traps protecting the horcrux hidden there. Thus, Harry and Dumbledore were able to cast spells on the inferi that attacked them, but they couldn't bypass the door that demanded blood or the lake, couldn't Vanish the poison in the basin, and Harry couldn't summon the horcrux or provide Dumbledore with water using magic.
Voldemort made the place an anti-apparation space. Just like how Hogwarts does not allow for Apparation within its grounds or the malfoy manor dungeon. One of the only ways to bypass this is house elf magic, since their magic is different from human wizards or witches. That's how kreatcher could apparate away from the lake not once but twice. And how dobby could get the prisoners out of the malfoy dungeon
Doubtful. The imperious curse works by creating contentment in the target and removing inhibitions so that the target is extremely suggestible to some sort of telepathic link with the caster. Inferi aren't alive to be suggestible.
Is it really confirmed that Grindelwald didn't create any Inferi? He viewed the Ressurection Stone as the key to an army of Inferi, but that he never dound it doesn't have to mean that he had no other way to create them. I always assumed he saw the stone as a way to streamline the process and get far more of them than he was able to produce by his own power. I would assume that he could create Inferi, just not as many as he would have wished. Also, if I remember correctly, the statement about Grindelwalds interest in the stone is about the yound Grindelwald, it would be entirely possible that he figured it out later in life.
In regards the lake inferi, I think Voldemort enchanted the water to create inferi from those who were dragged into the water by the horde. It would have been a long and complicated process, with many enchantments and some completed potions, though it would make sense for someone like Voldemort to create such a body of water. It would be a good way to replace inferi who had become too damaged to be of any use, as well as would give him grim satisfaction that any intruders would suffer such a fate. That, and it could prove to be a vicious psychological tactic; be it for any surviving witnesses, or any companions of the deceased who would also seek out the cave.
@@Lewis8Z yeah. In modern history. Wizarding history is so much more deep and complex. I view him as a great combiner of dark arts but not necessarily the greatest dark magic user. The ground work had already been laid out for him. While he was able to do crazy things I'll never put that up there with the original creation of the unforgivable curses, the creation of the fortress of Azkaban, the creation of dementors and inferi and basilisks. The actual creation of the ritual that makes a horcrux.
I just have to ask... wouldn't "Magicke most evile" not be pronounced according to mediaeval English (or middle English) rules as: Ma-gick-uh most Evil-uh ? the spelling does not strike me as French, you see.
Speaking of the cave, anyone else notice how relatively easy the other horcruxes were to obtain once their locations were found? Yes some were cursed and all that (like the ring and Dumbledore's hand) but they were easier to get to. Only the locket had a kind of gauntlet of dark magic to go through. Two were left with his top followers (one of whom basically threw it away), one in his grandfather's house, one in hogwarts, and one with him at all times. The locket was the only one actually guarded.
That's because it was Slytherin's own personal locket. Of course he would go all out for the personal item of his ancestor and house founder. Of all the Horcruxes he made it was the one that meant the most to him
@@marykandis959 you have a point but the ring was old Snakey's as well, And he left it in a run-down shack. Yes it was cursed but still much simpler to obtain than the locket. To some degree each of the others could have (and I say could have broadly) just been stumbled upon. I mean look at Ginny, she didn't exactly "stumble upon it" but still just assumed it was a random diary that may have been enchanted with some talk-back spell.
To me, I don't think Harry thought that he would become an Inferi perse, but that as a dead body in general, he would be a "guardian", left in the lake forgotten forever. I never got the idea that the lake would turn people into inferi.
Can you do a video about the restricted section? Like how old you have to be to enter if you're a student or a potential process for a student to have written permission from a teacher to gain access?
The wizard zombie can you imagine if we get a show that shows how the wizarding world deals with a zombie apocalypse. That is a nice and darker way to branch out.
I say that it was the guy who wrote the book that's in the restricted section of the library giving the fact that he lived before the guy who invented the dementors. There's a very evil link with all these dark wizards that were mentioned. The link being that all learn from each other weather from a book or something else.
I have a strong feeling that the process of creating an Inferius involves being the one who personally murders the person for this purpose. Harry's idea that being dragged to death into the infested lake would result in himself becoming one more Inferius might well be a fantasy induced by fear - of course he's super brave but not feeling fear in that situation would be insane. One of the reasons why I think that creating an Inferius requires murdering that person, is that otherwise, as morbid as it might sound, Inferi could be used for good purposes as well. I would not mind my deceased body being used to perform some dangerous task meant for a good purpose and sparing someone who is alive a high risk of dying, or even a certainty or nearly so.
I have a theory about the cave. I believe the cave had already been used before Tom Riddle by another dark wizard. I think dark wizard killed some muggles and turned them into different dark creatures and one of them was the inferí. He became known to the ministry so he decided to hide his inferí in a cave near a muggle village. To make sure his inferí never left the cave he created a small pond and gave them the instructions to guard. He planned to return to the cave should he need to hide but was captured but was killed he changed himself into a fish and hid in a fish bowl and a cat ate him. No but seriously, i feel that Tim Riddle was attracted to the cave because it already had seen dark magic. I think the lake was already there but not as big and i think there was already an inferí guarding it. I think he found it, then used animals to see what would happen and then he took the two orphans because he wanted to scare them and told an animal or a snake to go to the edge of the pond to watch them. He then told them to not get on his bad side or tell lies about him or else maybe they wanted to visit here again. I think the waters were much smaller though, and only 1 or 2 inferí and the entrance to the cave was easier to find by wizards.
Here's a good dark wizard idea. A dark wizard kills his best friend and turns him into an inferi to serve him, then kills that wizard's wife to turn the inferi into a horcrux... and the twist being the couple were willing sacrifices. Or a witch and wizard power couple that turns each other into horcruxes for each other.
Maybe Ekrizdis made them on his way to making dementors, after applying so much pain and suffering on the, sooner or later the subjects would die. And he needed a use for the dead.
What about the theory which Dementors are the souls of the Inferi? Per say a witch/wizard successfully separated a soul of an unfortunate victim by magic with ill-intent. That would cause such consequences as it can support the origins of Dementors as well.
Wow interesting question. Thanks for this video. I think Voldemort did invent them because he hid a horcrux there. He might have made them to kill whoever wished to steal the locket.
Though I do like the idea of ekrisdis (sorry if I spell theses names wrong) Because from your video talking about him he seemed very interesting I think it would be much more likely that voldamort would have learned from goodlow’s book then some other unknown source because if ekrisdis some how was not a completely insane sadist and kept notes on what he did to the mugles they probably would have been found by the minstery of magic and if they did find the notes why in heck would they make it coman knowledge
Ekridiz would be amazing, cause Inferis are soulless bodies and Dementors bodyless souls. So one might be the byproduct of an experiment of creating the other...
I have two queries regarding this cave and the hidden Horcrux: 1) In the books, Dumbledore says that Voldemort operated alone and nobody knew that he had created Horcruxes until Dumbledore discovered the truth. Then how is it that Regulus realised that it was a Horcrux that Voldemort had hidden in the cave? Secondly, how did Regulus manage to find a locket similar to the one that Voldemort had made into a Horcrux without having seen it before Kreacher took him there? Is it possible that Kreacher described the locket’s appearance to Regulus? 2) In Deathly Hallows, when Voldemort realises that Harry, Ron & Hermione are hunting Horcruxes, he decides to check whether his Horcruxes are safe. When he reaches the lake, how come he finds the basin filled with the potion when Dumbledore had already drank and emptied it? Secondly, he himself does not have to drink the potion, he simply turns it into a clear liquid by magic. Could’nt Dumbledore have managed to do the same magic and turned the potion into a clear harmless liquid instead of drinking it?
@@doomdrake123 #1 isn’t a plot hole. Dumbledore didn’t know that Regulus had discovered the horcrux. Otherwise he wouldn’t have wasted his and Harry’s time by going to the cave.
@@someonesomewhere9115 Its understood that Dumbledore did not know that Regulus had already replaced the original horcrux with a fake. But the question is how did Regulus got to know that it was a Horcrux that Voldemort hid in the cave?
#1 Maybe Regulus and his House Elf are somewhat telepathic... or maybe House Elfs can remember every single detail so by asking him Regulus could make an exact replica of it.
So I have a question at the end of the tri wizard tornament Harry saw that Voldemort returned but no one believed that he was really back why didn’t they make Harry Potter use the pensieve you know that thing that makes people relive a certain memory that the person experienced wouldn’t that had proved that Voldemort was back o.o
And now that I think of it more they could have used that to prove that serious black wasn’t the bad guy and also proven that death eaters attacked Harry and his cousin or what ever he is literally the pensieve could have probably solved those problems easily
it doesn't require hatred, it requires a lack of any moral objections to killing the target, a sufficient amount of hatred will do that, but it also works if the caster considers the death of the target to be necessary.
@@windhelmguard5295 I feel like this answer is correct. There is still some mystery though... I believe that Snape could considers the death of Dumbledor necessary, but under the circumstances of the Astronomy Tower, he wouldn't have the lack of any moral objections to kill him. The killing curse is a high level curse. Could Snape manage to use it in a situation that inspires so much pity ?
If it requires great feeling or hatred, Snape probably did hate strong enough. He would have hated having had to make that promise to Dumbledore in the first place. He’d hate that it would cast him from the side he’d chosen after Lily’s death. So that might count.
I think the creator of the Inferi was Herpo the Foul and Anciant Greek Wizard who invented the Horcrux. Rowlings idea of the Inferi comes from Haiti lore. That lore came from Africa... since Greeks went into Egypt (another culture obsessed with death.)... out of the Dark Wizards we know he might be the closest to. The other possibility is an as yet unknown African or Native Caribbean or Central American witch or wizard... since Rowling based it on Haitian folk lore not European forklore.
The first written account of the Undead walking on earth is Mesopotamian , so it’s safe to say , it is probably one of the most ancient monster figures ever (which makes sense considering death truly is human’s biggest fear since forever !). The figure of the Undead sure probably predate the Mesopotamian settlements and writing, meaning their place of origin is most likely Africa , which again makes sense considering the numerous African oral and written myths and spiritual beliefs that features some kind of zombie like figure in it ! ( and of course the fact everything human originates in Africa anyway !)
Mmm.. I don't think Voldi has created them neither Ekrisdis. In case Ekrisdis created them, he would have used them to kill innocents. That would have drawn attention of the ministry to the strange happening of people missing. Otherwise if Voldi created them, why hasn't he used them for the great Battle of Hogwarts? I mean that would have been such a great army for him to use (if he'd be able to control them).
Voldemort: I m the most powerful and evil dark wizard!
Ekrizdis: kids these days
lol. true. Voldy was child's play compared to him. At least he created hocruxes of himself but didn't create an entirely new form of dark magic.
Although the fact Voldemort had plans to live and rule forever is evil and disturbing
@@aus822 that's two steps below pure evil. 2 is Ekrizdis - Mad/obsessed evil. Doesn't give a f about anything else.
1 is Devil himself just push evil thoughts into beings and enjoy
@@user-qi6tb7ht5z the devil isnt real
@@minecraftsteve6997 Matter of beliefs.
I love the lore behind Ekrizdis. I would love a book or film about Ekrizdis and the Wizards who discovered the fort filled with all his wild, twisted experiments and terrifying creations would be amazing (especially if it were 15/18/R rated)
An HBO series :D
EkrizdeezNUTS
The last time I was this early, Voldemort was still answering to the name "Tom Riddle" and hadn't made any horcruxes yet! We know from Grindelwald's hope that the Resurrection Stone could help him create "an army of inferi" that they pre-dated Voldy.
Even though I don’t really like the film adaptation of Half Blood Prince, I can’t deny that the cave scene with the inferi wasn’t amazing. Gives me chills every time. 👍🏻
Was or wasn't?
@@noselessman5683 My bad I meant was. Autocorrect screwed it all up. Thanks Voldy. 👍🏻
@@kaenachoo4783 👍
@@noselessman5683 Voldy Moldy
@@noselessman5683 you made another horcrux diden't you
I don't think you're really looking in the right place, and I don't think the original inventor of the inferi is something that would go down in history. Unlike the Basilisk, Dementors or Horcruxes, Inferi arent their own unique dark creation, but rather the natural, albeit extremely morbid, endpoint for animation magic. Really the only difference between Mcgonagall awakening the castle decorations to defend Hogwarts and the inferi in the cave is that Voldemort is using a much more complicated and taboo medium
When ur one of the first few ppl to click on this video but instead of going to the comments and spam first but actually watch the entire video...
Bar truly is at the floor
Lol
I sure do love it when people in the comments give information that's literally in the video, thinking they've given us a big piece of information. I love to point and say, "Ha! That one didn't watch the video."
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Thank god you posted a video today.. I had started to think that my UA-cam isn't working as HP Theory always posts videos. 😁😄😄
Such a conceptual thought!
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I'm not sure who might've created the first one but im inclined to believe harry is right about becoming one if he was drowned. My idea is that after the curse was initially set up by Voldemort it could be kept running off of the horrorcrux at it's center. like a power source for renewable dark energy or maybe just an artifact that contained the dark lord's will to keep up the curse
How would the horcrux be an energy source for RENEWABLE dark energy? In any sane explanation of such, dark energy would need to be renewed, recharged or enervated by a power that itself increased from an outside source. From whence derives the renewing energy? What is this mystical outside source? Dark energy, as probably completely misunderstood by Cosmetologists (:, is an unexplained repulsive force that pushes everything away. Galaxy clusters flee before it. Were dark energy to be significantly locally renewed, the H2O in the lake and the Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen (plus insignificant pollutants) of the Inferi, would have been dispersed as a noxious and flammable gas with the unfortunate result that Dumbledore's flaming wand trick would have instigated a significant fuel air explosion. That would have resolved Voldemort's future problems but would also have reduced the Harry Potter saga to a shortened and unsatisfying end. Therefore, I think we can confidentially eliminate renewing dark energy from the plot. I suspect Rowling anticipated this as well so eliminated its presence in the narrative.
@@gregorydamario7977 when I said "Dark Energy" I meant something more along the lines of black magic, not functional antigravity. Also why would your dark energy need to be renewed, I'd love to hear your reasoning. Until then this is Harry Potter not Green Lantern.
When Harry and Dumbledore went to the cave, the false Horcrux they got was the one RAB put in there and let's not forget that Voldemort never know about it. So, I believe RAB turned into an Inferius without Voldemort even know what had happen. So, I assume the cursed water is enough to turn anyone into an Inferius
Yes, I thought the same as well!
Not much of a theory when everyone who's read the books knows that's what happens. Kreacher says he sees the inferi drag him under.
well he could've just been murdered, but yeah 👍
Well, Inferi are basically zombies, more specifically Voodoo zombies, that person creates as slave, something, that lives (or technically doesn't live) only to serve someone, who created it, so I think, that the most probable origin is on Caribbean Islands.
The inverse would be that voodoo magic comes from some muggles seeing real magic and trying desperately to imitate it.
In another video it’s suggested Avada Kedavra comes from Abra Kedabra - I think that’s the inverse too. The curse would have been so notorious that some muggles might even have overheard wizard’s hushed whispers about it - but without the context to know what it is, just that it’s apparently a magic incantation.
One thing I like about The HP world is all the implied mystery of magic from around the world. We see magical history through the European lens and the how they’re type of magic is constructed, but there has to be multiple other spells and origins of spells and curses that are lost or easily altered in Magic’s history. Like muggle history isn’t perfect so I’d have to think human wizards follow a similar pattern, such as repressing goblins and house elves to being inferior that how magic and spells came into being would be debated intensely.
I wonder if we’ll get to be a dark wizard in the upcoming Harry Potter game.
I hope so i wanna go around and snipe people with avada kedavra
@@lordhydra474 lmao me to
@lukecafc Hogwarts Legacy
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Even though it's in the restricted section of the Hogwarts library, why would they even have such a book In the school? If anything the book needs to be locked in a vault somewhere in the ministry. It's not like the restricted section has good security.Also, any student with the malicious intent to use the dark arts can probs break in. (Cough* Slytherins)
Lol ironically, Harry brakes Into the restricted section to learn about Nicholas flammel and the sorcerer's stone. 🤣 Shoutout to all my fellow hufflepuffs.
Maybe a hint to actual restricted sections of forbidden books we in real life have in universities. For example in Germany Hitlers mein kampf was long forbidden to own and read but the history sections of many university's held a copy in restricted areas that could be retrieved by history students who where trustful enough to understand and study it.
If I was in Hogwarts I'd totally break into the restricted section to learn all I could about the dark arts Ig defense against the dark arts would be ok but my priorities would be to learn the dark arts
@@justacriminalin70countries49 same
The ministry isn’t all that secure either though. At least in hogwarts if someone gets in, they’re learning.
I've never really thought about this! I just assumed voldy made em lol!
Well if we combine real life mythology (assuming for a second that the events of our world translate to good degree to the fictional muggle world), I would assume that the first inferi were created in ancient Mesopotamia. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, the goddess Ishtar promises to raise the dead and this is the oldest account of the walking undead in fiction/mythology. I would like to believe that Ishtar wasn't a real goddess but in actually an ancient Dark Witch in the Harry Potter Universe, who created the first inferius. It would also be interesting to have powerful dark witch roaming around at one point as most notable Dark wizards are men and would mix things up a bit. So I would date it back so far. Since her time, it is likely that several dark wizards, like Godelot and Ekrizdis created their own Inferi, though no one was ever as successful as she had been until Voldemort, who might have surpassed her in his quest to push the boundaries of magic further than anyone before (it is unlikely that he was solely talking about his immortality when he said that, seeing his other abilities).
With Grindelwald, I always got the idea that he was able to create them but not to the degree he wanted. He wanted a true army of the undead, that would fight for him but likely also could follow strategy and what not. He might have been able to re-animate a few corpses (there were mentions of his twisted experiments at Durmstrang, so he likely might have tried his hand on necromancy with small animals in these days) and give them pretty basic instructions but nothing to the point that they were useful for his cause. In my mind, he likely wasn't able to create enough (as it likely is quite exhausting magic) and he didn't had the control he wanted. With the Resurrection Stone, he might have been able to amplify his abilities in this field.
With Voldemort, I do get the feeling he found a way to curse the lake into an Inferi factory (which is why I would think he might have surpassed Ishtar, if she really was the original creator). The spell itself must have been hard to perform but once in place, it would work itself. And I feel the resurrection process was the hardest part as the imprinted instruction in the Inferi is quite simple: if anyone touches the water, kill them and if anyone tries to summon the horcrux, block it. Another interesting thing about the Inferi lake, is the amount of bodies. I'm under the impression, he couldn't have done this alone and got help from other wizards and witches. They helped him kill and collect those muggles and once he believed he had enough, he killed the hired help as well, ensuring more corpses for the lake as well as keeping his true objective and the cave as a whole a secret...
I like this. My thoughts went also to the Egyptians or Mesopotamians. Cool you know this first mentioning of these undead.
I myself imagine Ishtar still as a Godess, but a priestess of here I would 'like' as an evil witch.
@@edopronk1303 Thank you. My first thought for my theory was some ancient or medieval wizard being the first but then I decided to look up if I could find the oldest possible mention of zombies/undead and I came across a passage from the Epic of Gilgamesh which would be the first mention. The idea that is the oldest known source that mentioned the undead and specifically spoke of "raising the dead", made it perfect to be linked to Harry Potter Universe in general and to the Inferi in particular.
The reason why I would re-imagine Ishtar in this context as a dark witch, is because I don't feel like gods and truely divine beings would really work in the Harry Potter universe. Therefore, I am more inclined that most gods, prophets and saints in the muggle world, would have been wizards and witches (in the HP Universe).
Exactly what I thought to ! Ishtar is a very good candidate !
Grindelwald did quite good with the Qilin
Nice idea, I do like the idea of a dark witch or wizard so prideful of their magic, they become a megalomaniac, think of them selves as gods
Considering the archetype of the Undead has been around since freaking Babylone , and that many myths and legends are twisted witness accounts of magic and magical creatures by muggles in the HP universe, I would say the creator of the Inferi is a very ancient dark wizard or witch that even the wizards don’t remember the name off ! It’s like asking who the hell created the vampires , or the lycan virus !
seriously. it's stupid to think all this magic was only created in the last 500 years when there have been tales of powerful magic for millenia
I don't think that someone named Godelot would be a dark wizard. The name is a diminutive form of names all containing root god- and something positive. That's not a name for someone dark and vile. Godelot's decision not to include more info on horcruxes and his choice of book's name (Magick Moste Evil) are two more arguments against him being truly dark wizard. This sounds like a work of someone trying to warn others against the dangers of the dark magic, not someone intent on teaching it. This might also be a reason for why it was included in Hogwart's Library.
Yes, Godelot was a master of the Elder Wand, but that doesn't mean he absolutely had to kill in order to become one, simple Expelliarmus is enough as we've seen in Half-blood Prince.
Last but not least - yes, he is described as being "unpleasant character", but that doesn't mean he really was dark wizard - he might've been just a little bit of an asshole. Or he might've stared into the abbyss for too long and it stared back into him, staining him and making him unpleasant, not the other way around.
This being said, I think that Emeric the Evil might be a better candidate for a title of inferi creator. The hint is already there :) .
Another candidate might be Herpo the Foul (I can imagine the proces to be really nasty, so it might have be a reason for his label).
I will leave you with a question though. What if the creator of inferi was Antioch Peverell? It would fit together nicely with the overall theme of death of the Hallows. Or maybe the Stone of Resurrection was a part of the ritual that created them (this would not rule Herpo out though, he still could be the creator of inferi but use more complicated way that was just simplified with stone and more powerful wand).
I've often theorized that the person(s) Voldemort killed to create the horcrux in the locket (and perhaps the other other horcrux) was in fact the first of the Inferi. Also that it was not the Inferi themselves who enacted the curse but was instead the lake.
First kill the person you wish to use in the ritual to create your first horcrux. Then perform your enchantment to charm the lake and curse its waters to purify, preserve, reanimate, and bind any "deceased" body that fell into under your control. From there every poor unfortunate soul who would be dragged beneath the lake's surface would instantly become a new Inferi to add to your ever growing protective army.
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At least that's what I would do if I was a dark witch/wizard.
First creator of the Inferi, I think, would be the 2nd Peverel brother when he used the resurrection stone to be with his wife. Although that could just be a prototype.
In Harry Potter the difference between soul and body really matters a lot. A person is basicly the soul, the body is just a shell to live on earth. The power of the resurrection stone is so significant because it can bring people back that have "moved on". Normally a soul can not completly exist on earth once it has passed the great door called death.
An inferius is the opposite. The soulless body is reused by an other witch or wizard, the shell serves now an other purpose. I mean one should not really care if he becomes an inferi since the soul is detached from the body in death and has moved on to another place. It's like dangling a corpse on ropes except it's magic.
I think this is the difference between the resurrection stone and inferi. Although it's possible that the first ever inferi was invented accidentally by Cadmus Peverell in an attempt to bring back the dead.
@@glebjohnson9057 in that line of thinking, a victim of the dementor's kiss is also quite close to an inferi. In fact, one might be more useful dead than 'alive' that way - I can see an evil witch-scientist start out to create the inferi that way.
@@derianvandalsen In fact a victim of the Dementor's kiss is very close to an inferius, yes. It's a human body on earth without a soul, except that in the first case the soul was sucked out of the living person and is lost forever while the inferius is dead beforehand and then reanimated without the soul. For the person it matters a lot but the result is almost the same. I wouldn't mind being an inferius but I would never suffer the Dementor's kiss. It's litteraly the worst that could happen to anyone because death, the big thing waiting and ending all suffering on earth, is denied for eternity and these people are trapped who knows where.
@@glebjohnson9057 I wonder... a living vessel without a soul might be the perfect recipient of a horcrux.
@@derianvandalsen That is a very interesting idea. Dumbledore said that creating a horcrux with a living being is possible but also dangerous because it can move and think for itself. With Harry we see the dualism of souls but when one would take the soulless body of a kissed person would it be like a second person since it is the only soul inside the body?
I have to imagine inferi, or at least some kind of proto-inferi, are an ancient kind of magic. I can even imagine one being created by accident: by a well-intentioned magic user trying to revive a dead loved one, for instance.
I find it hard to believe magic like this wasn't seriously attempted until the middle ages, let alone until Voldemort's lifetime.
Man, I could listen to your voice all day in an audiobook!
"to undertake perilous jobs for its master."
Like going out to get a pack of smokes and a gallon of milk.....unlike certain wizard fathers, a Inferi actually 'will' be back.
I'm guessing Ekrisdis made dementors and inferi cause he wished to become immortal but didn't know how to make a horcrux. So he would end up attempting either to make a bootleg horcrux or trying to find a way to preserve his soul or body in a manner that could still influence the living world. Inferi were the body part of it while dementors were the twisted and mangled souls, he ideally wanted both for obvious reasons but never quite managed it (if he managed it, then he would probably still be around or there would be a story about a wizard managing to kill him). Ekrisdis either died before he could perfect the means of basically becoming a lich or desperately tried the experiments on himself as he found his life fading and ended up becoming another dementor (losing his identity in the process).
Or... he actually pulled it of and decided to lay low for the first couple millenia. Just imagine him resurfacing...
@@derianvandalsen he'd make voldermort look like a draco
@@derianvandalsen He lived in the 1500s, it wouldn't rly be millenia yet anyway
Also, my theory is that Ekrizdis may have actually been the first dementor.
Think about it. He literarly behaved like a dementor: reciwving pleasure from the suffering and despair he imbued into his victims.
What if his experiments lead him to discover a spell that would allow him to become an immortal being capable of surviving purely and literarly by sucking the happiness and souls out of people? I'm sure he'd love that.
On top of that, dementors reproduce asexually, meaning that even one dementor could have, in theory, spawned every single dementor in existance today.
This is just my two cents on the issue.
@@dustingaethje1332 so?
I can't watch that scene in the movie, where they're in the cave. I can't handle watching an old man suffer. I know it's not real, but it's too difficult for me to watch.
I can’t read it either.
Snooowwwflakeeees
Its very good acting. You feel like you are in there with them
Y'know, I wonder how many of Voldemort's curses, charms, enchantments, and spells broke when he died. Did these inferi become corpses again? Did the cave become safe to go into once again? Did any concealment charms have broken?
If it didn't fade when he was a bodiless spirit I don't think it would fade when he dead
I'd guess not, just given the tone of anything to do with Voldemort. I imagine there would be quite some time after his death during which curse breakers would hunt down places, objects, and people he cursed. It'd be analogous to finding mass graves and mine fields after modern wars.
lol just imagine a muggle going into the cave and seeing a hundreds of dead bodies in the lake
@@Jasonsoloka2024 that's precisely why I think Hogwarts' Defense Against the Dark Arts position is still cursed.
What happened to the infery after voldermort’s defeat
When someone dies, the curses are undone...so, I suppose they all returned to be just dead bodies
they turned to modelling
I always thought that the idea of the inferi was around before Voldemorts time but he was the one who found out how to create them.
JK Rowling is the creator of the inferi... as opposed to simple everyday zombies....
I think you're probably right It makes a lot of sense to me great video keep up the amazing work
it just occurred to me, the inferi, the drink, and the blood sacrifice were useless. from what we know, everyone that managed to find the cave got past all three parts. the only thing that prevented more people from reaching the horcrux was it being hidden in this remote cave
simply because that makes no sense, there must have been others that reached the cave that didnt make it to the horcrux
That's not entirely accurate. RAB only stole the locket because house elf magic by breaks the rules of magic, however he was killed by the cave.
The main flaw with the cave however is that it assumes anyone who went to the cave would do so alone, part of voldemort's hubris. RAB got the locket out because he relied on Kreature to do that bit of the job. Harry and Dumbledore got the fake locket out because they worked together. Each precaution is effective, but is defeated by team work.
Obviously there's then the army of inferni, and I can't think of many wizards besides Dumbledore, who would've been able to escape that.
My theory is that akristus killed the muggle sailors by using every 3 unforgivable curses but I think if he created the inferi he tried turning them into horcruxes for his own army of life source but in the process it failed creating the dementors and all his soul was gone into the dementors he eventually died and became a dementor himself or his dementors killed him and he became inferi
The idea of inferi always made me feel ill
Well we from the other franchises call it base level necromancy. There is a DnD story from GM, about the big bad evil guy being a master necromancer with a good twist. It was the best portrayal of necromancy and how a mere tool can't be evil, just the ends of it's usage.
Can u make a video about how a wand is made
How did this muggle know so much about the wizard in world?
Aha the best dada teacher
Thank you for the in depth and spooky info about a frightening and mysterious corner of the Dark Arts. I like how it's pretty much left to the imagination as to where the Inferi came from and who or what they were to begin with.
What is the music playing underneath?
Cool vid bro
I was just kind of opened the page of the Cave chapter to read when this video popped up and this just is a question I never thought of before. Very interesting and well done Harry Potter Theory!
Maybe it actually was the resurrection stone. It had been in Tom's family for decades and if it was doable with the elder wand then Grindelwald would have achieved it because the dark arts book seems like it would be a "must read" for anyone wanting to dabble in the dark arts
I like how every time he talks about Acrizdis (ik it's probably spelled wrong), he says 'No one even knows his nationality, and even if it was known, I'm sure no one would want to claim ownership of him'. LIKE EVERY TIME
Gotta pad out that run time.
I have a theroy about the water. It can be that water is cursed, but it creates only "low quality" Inferi, that can perform only few/simple tasks (like - drown anyone who touches the water) and also has damaged bodies. But you can create Inferi, that are almost undistinguishable from living people (except from the cloudy eyes) and can perform more/complicated tasks (yet still not at the level of living person). There might be some problems with this so if you see some, please point them.
I also had my own theory, about who and how created them, but when you mentioned Godelot, it fell apart, because Godelot lived most probably before Ekrizdis and it's also probable, that the spell was in that book (and he would surely wanted to put his own spell there).
i dont even think that movie flame and harry potter folklore can beat this channel but it would be better if you
could start using clips from the movies instead of images from the movies it would make it more interactive
My guess is he might get demonetized
@@talljib but i think other channels use it
Could you make an inferi a horcrux ?
if that's possible I wonder how putting a part of your soul into a corpse would change it or won't it. Perhaps make an inferi a horcrux and have it stay buried as an actual dead body would be in a cemetery.
This whole Harry Potter universe is so real and Believable 🤔 makes me wonder if JK Rolling is witch herself who lived in that times and now Plays role of a magl 🤔 good cover up story
I hope it is true
she is mrs sceeter duhh she is banned from the wizarding world and she exposed all the shit just because
@@vibbebernhard3094 she got fame in this world but she lost her ability to do magic 🙌🏻
@@nikoger8617 a billion dollars is more powerful than any wand lol
Nothing says that after the inferi killed Regulus that he became one of them. I always assumed he was just a corpse lying under the lakes water.
i have a small theory, correct me if i am wrong...
in the books harry used the summoning charm, so it clearly means that magic was possible in the cave... and it is mentioned that the inferi will "sort- of" get activated if the water is disturbed? right?
so why dumbledore and harry just didn't use apparition?? simply disapparated and apparated near the horcrux??
Only house elves have magic powerful enough to bypass wizard made spells. Which is why kreature was able to escape when voldemort used him as a puppet to test his trap
@@Ayugeti yes that i know, but why Dumbledore and harry didn't use apparition?? I know harry didn't knew how to apparate but Dumbledore was very well versed with situations or I should say he guessed the situations.. so why he did not took an extra care and simply apparated with holding harry's hand??
That is a good question, and I think the answer to that is something like this.
We know from the series that it is possible to perform magic at Hogwarts, but that the school and its grounds have a spell on them that keeps anyone from apparating there. Most likely, Voldemort put a similar spell on the cave, so that magic would work in general, but preventing specific spells that would help anyone bypass the obstacles and traps protecting the horcrux hidden there. Thus, Harry and Dumbledore were able to cast spells on the inferi that attacked them, but they couldn't bypass the door that demanded blood or the lake, couldn't Vanish the poison in the basin, and Harry couldn't summon the horcrux or provide Dumbledore with water using magic.
@@DamonNomad82 yeah!!! Thanks man!! It has a good possibility 👍👍
Voldemort made the place an anti-apparation space. Just like how Hogwarts does not allow for Apparation within its grounds or the malfoy manor dungeon. One of the only ways to bypass this is house elf magic, since their magic is different from human wizards or witches. That's how kreatcher could apparate away from the lake not once but twice. And how dobby could get the prisoners out of the malfoy dungeon
Would the infery be controlled with a variation of the imperious curse?
Doubtful. The imperious curse works by creating contentment in the target and removing inhibitions so that the target is extremely suggestible to some sort of telepathic link with the caster. Inferi aren't alive to be suggestible.
Question in chamber of secrets is the hand of glory a dementor hand or an inferi hand?
Dementor since imferi are just enchanted dead bodies so it would decay normally
Nice video. The Inferi Firestorm scene was cool as shit, too.
Is it really confirmed that Grindelwald didn't create any Inferi? He viewed the Ressurection Stone as the key to an army of Inferi, but that he never dound it doesn't have to mean that he had no other way to create them. I always assumed he saw the stone as a way to streamline the process and get far more of them than he was able to produce by his own power. I would assume that he could create Inferi, just not as many as he would have wished.
Also, if I remember correctly, the statement about Grindelwalds interest in the stone is about the yound Grindelwald, it would be entirely possible that he figured it out later in life.
In regards the lake inferi, I think Voldemort enchanted the water to create inferi from those who were dragged into the water by the horde.
It would have been a long and complicated process, with many enchantments and some completed potions, though it would make sense for someone like Voldemort to create such a body of water.
It would be a good way to replace inferi who had become too damaged to be of any use, as well as would give him grim satisfaction that any intruders would suffer such a fate.
That, and it could prove to be a vicious psychological tactic; be it for any surviving witnesses, or any companions of the deceased who would also seek out the cave.
“Voldemort is the strongest known dark wizard”
Me: *KNOWN*
But seriously Ekrizdis was *BARELY* known. Who’s to say?
Its stated numerous times that Voldemort is the most powerful dark wizard ever
@@Lewis8Z yeah. In modern history. Wizarding history is so much more deep and complex. I view him as a great combiner of dark arts but not necessarily the greatest dark magic user. The ground work had already been laid out for him. While he was able to do crazy things I'll never put that up there with the original creation of the unforgivable curses, the creation of the fortress of Azkaban, the creation of dementors and inferi and basilisks. The actual creation of the ritual that makes a horcrux.
Love your vids
I really love the music here! I wonder what's called?
Love how they are in the new potter game years later
I just have to ask... wouldn't "Magicke most evile" not be pronounced according to mediaeval English (or middle English) rules as: Ma-gick-uh most Evil-uh ? the spelling does not strike me as French, you see.
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Where do you find all this info. I have read all the 📚 and all the movies 🎬 . And pottermore doesn't have that mutch info.
Speaking of the cave, anyone else notice how relatively easy the other horcruxes were to obtain once their locations were found? Yes some were cursed and all that (like the ring and Dumbledore's hand) but they were easier to get to. Only the locket had a kind of gauntlet of dark magic to go through. Two were left with his top followers (one of whom basically threw it away), one in his grandfather's house, one in hogwarts, and one with him at all times. The locket was the only one actually guarded.
That's because it was Slytherin's own personal locket. Of course he would go all out for the personal item of his ancestor and house founder. Of all the Horcruxes he made it was the one that meant the most to him
@@marykandis959 you have a point but the ring was old Snakey's as well, And he left it in a run-down shack. Yes it was cursed but still much simpler to obtain than the locket. To some degree each of the others could have (and I say could have broadly) just been stumbled upon.
I mean look at Ginny, she didn't exactly "stumble upon it" but still just assumed it was a random diary that may have been enchanted with some talk-back spell.
To me, I don't think Harry thought that he would become an Inferi perse, but that as a dead body in general, he would be a "guardian", left in the lake forgotten forever. I never got the idea that the lake would turn people into inferi.
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Could it be that the locket's rudimentary intelligence was propagating the spell as a means of self-defense?
Can you do a video about the restricted section? Like how old you have to be to enter if you're a student or a potential process for a student to have written permission from a teacher to gain access?
Voldemort would be considered a serial killer in the muggle world. It really is quite dark
The wizard zombie can you imagine if we get a show that shows how the wizarding world deals with a zombie apocalypse. That is a nice and darker way to branch out.
I say that it was the guy who wrote the book that's in the restricted section of the library giving the fact that he lived before the guy who invented the dementors. There's a very evil link with all these dark wizards that were mentioned. The link being that all learn from each other weather from a book or something else.
this ekrizdis guy is crazy , wish there was a movie about him
If the spells end when someone dies, how the protective spells of Hogwarts are still active?
I'd assume they are recast by the new headmasters, teachers,ministry, etc.
"Which evil wizard created the inferi?"
Me, an MDZS fan: IT'S THE YILING PATRIARCH!!!
*Broken flute noises*
I thought I was the only one who thought of MDZS when watching the video, I guess I was wrong
@@delulu_alisu Great. I've found a fan :D
I have a strong feeling that the process of creating an Inferius involves being the one who personally murders the person for this purpose. Harry's idea that being dragged to death into the infested lake would result in himself becoming one more Inferius might well be a fantasy induced by fear - of course he's super brave but not feeling fear in that situation would be insane. One of the reasons why I think that creating an Inferius requires murdering that person, is that otherwise, as morbid as it might sound, Inferi could be used for good purposes as well. I would not mind my deceased body being used to perform some dangerous task meant for a good purpose and sparing someone who is alive a high risk of dying, or even a certainty or nearly so.
How can I find the background music?
I have a theory about the cave. I believe the cave had already been used before Tom Riddle by another dark wizard. I think dark wizard killed some muggles and turned them into different dark creatures and one of them was the inferí. He became known to the ministry so he decided to hide his inferí in a cave near a muggle village. To make sure his inferí never left the cave he created a small pond and gave them the instructions to guard. He planned to return to the cave should he need to hide but was captured but was killed he changed himself into a fish and hid in a fish bowl and a cat ate him. No but seriously, i feel that Tim Riddle was attracted to the cave because it already had seen dark magic. I think the lake was already there but not as big and i think there was already an inferí guarding it. I think he found it, then used animals to see what would happen and then he took the two orphans because he wanted to scare them and told an animal or a snake to go to the edge of the pond to watch them. He then told them to not get on his bad side or tell lies about him or else maybe they wanted to visit here again. I think the waters were much smaller though, and only 1 or 2 inferí and the entrance to the cave was easier to find by wizards.
Bro thats a good theory
Here's a good dark wizard idea.
A dark wizard kills his best friend and turns him into an inferi to serve him, then kills that wizard's wife to turn the inferi into a horcrux... and the twist being the couple were willing sacrifices.
Or a witch and wizard power couple that turns each other into horcruxes for each other.
Maybe Ekrizdis made them on his way to making dementors, after applying so much pain and suffering on the, sooner or later the subjects would die. And he needed a use for the dead.
What about the theory which Dementors are the souls of the Inferi? Per say a witch/wizard successfully separated a soul of an unfortunate victim by magic with ill-intent. That would cause such consequences as it can support the origins of Dementors as well.
Wow interesting question. Thanks for this video. I think Voldemort did invent them because he hid a horcrux there. He might have made them to kill whoever wished to steal the locket.
Grindelwald wanted to create them but he and Dumbledore gave up on the idea long before Voldemort was born, so clearly someone else invented them.
Can anyone tell me where I can find the music in this episode please?
Though I do like the idea of ekrisdis (sorry if I spell theses names wrong) Because from your video talking about him he seemed very interesting I think it would be much more likely that voldamort would have learned from goodlow’s book then some other unknown source because if ekrisdis some how was not a completely insane sadist and kept notes on what he did to the mugles they probably would have been found by the minstery of magic and if they did find the notes why in heck would they make it coman knowledge
Godelot Just wrote about the horcrux procedure being too cruel to explain in the books. It was in fact profesor Slughorn who revealed too much to Tom.
Ekridiz would be amazing, cause Inferis are soulless bodies and Dementors bodyless souls.
So one might be the byproduct of an experiment of creating the other...
what are the songs used in this video?
Does shoot it in the head apply here?
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I have two queries regarding this cave and the hidden Horcrux:
1) In the books, Dumbledore says that Voldemort operated alone and nobody knew that he had created Horcruxes until Dumbledore discovered the truth. Then how is it that Regulus realised that it was a Horcrux that Voldemort had hidden in the cave? Secondly, how did Regulus manage to find a locket similar to the one that Voldemort had made into a Horcrux without having seen it before Kreacher took him there? Is it possible that Kreacher described the locket’s appearance to Regulus?
2) In Deathly Hallows, when Voldemort realises that Harry, Ron & Hermione are hunting Horcruxes, he decides to check whether his Horcruxes are safe. When he reaches the lake, how come he finds the basin filled with the potion when Dumbledore had already drank and emptied it? Secondly, he himself does not have to drink the potion, he simply turns it into a clear liquid by magic. Could’nt Dumbledore have managed to do the same magic and turned the potion into a clear harmless liquid instead of drinking it?
1. Plot hole.
2. Well it's possible that Voldemort created a counter spell to the poison, known only to him.
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#1 isn’t a plot hole. Dumbledore didn’t know that Regulus had discovered the horcrux. Otherwise he wouldn’t have wasted his and Harry’s time by going to the cave.
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Both of your answers seem relatable, thank you!☺️
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Its understood that Dumbledore did not know that Regulus had already replaced the original horcrux with a fake. But the question is how did Regulus got to know that it was a Horcrux that Voldemort hid in the cave?
#1 Maybe Regulus and his House Elf are somewhat telepathic... or maybe House Elfs can remember every single detail so by asking him Regulus could make an exact replica of it.
I wish they would delve into necromancy with a new movie. Have Harry and friends fighting off waves of undead warriors and even liches
Please, create a video on fenrir greyback🙏
I didn’t know the inferis and dementors were made by someone in the first place lol
why is there a pic of Gandalf
Maybe inferi have the ability to create inferi if commanded with their victims, like the inferi in the cavern lake?
Isn't the plural Inferii? Inferi would mean that singular is Inferus.
So I have a question at the end of the tri wizard tornament Harry saw that Voldemort returned but no one believed that he was really back why didn’t they make Harry Potter use the pensieve you know that thing that makes people relive a certain memory that the person experienced wouldn’t that had proved that Voldemort was back o.o
And now that I think of it more they could have used that to prove that serious black wasn’t the bad guy and also proven that death eaters attacked Harry and his cousin or what ever he is literally the pensieve could have probably solved those problems easily
How did Snape managed to cast a Killing Curse on Dumbledor ? Since it needs a lot of hatred to so.
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it doesn't require hatred, it requires a lack of any moral objections to killing the target, a sufficient amount of hatred will do that, but it also works if the caster considers the death of the target to be necessary.
@@windhelmguard5295 I feel like this answer is correct. There is still some mystery though... I believe that Snape could considers the death of Dumbledor necessary, but under the circumstances of the Astronomy Tower, he wouldn't have the lack of any moral objections to kill him.
The killing curse is a high level curse. Could Snape manage to use it in a situation that inspires so much pity ?
If it requires great feeling or hatred, Snape probably did hate strong enough. He would have hated having had to make that promise to Dumbledore in the first place. He’d hate that it would cast him from the side he’d chosen after Lily’s death. So that might count.
The resurrection stone also is a part of necromancy if anyone knows about necromancy will know
Oh wow iv never thought about this
I think the creator of the Inferi was Herpo the Foul and Anciant Greek Wizard who invented the Horcrux. Rowlings idea of the Inferi comes from Haiti lore. That lore came from Africa... since Greeks went into Egypt (another culture obsessed with death.)... out of the Dark Wizards we know he might be the closest to.
The other possibility is an as yet unknown African or Native Caribbean or Central American witch or wizard... since Rowling based it on Haitian folk lore not European forklore.
The first written account of the Undead walking on earth is Mesopotamian , so it’s safe to say , it is probably one of the most ancient monster figures ever (which makes sense considering death truly is human’s biggest fear since forever !). The figure of the Undead sure probably predate the Mesopotamian settlements and writing, meaning their place of origin is most likely Africa , which again makes sense considering the numerous African oral and written myths and spiritual beliefs that features some kind of zombie like figure in it ! ( and of course the fact everything human originates in Africa anyway !)
Thinking about inferi can make me imagine the feeling of being grabbed by one. Gross feeling. 😬Good for the story, though.
Quick question: who do you think would win in a fight, Percy Jackson or Harry Potter? I’d love to debate if you think Harry!
I think Harry
No way Harry wins. Percy Jackson at the end of Heroes of Olympus is practically a god.
@@yeetfeet1878 any reasons why?
@Thomas Leroux-Lévis what do you mean?
@Thomas Leroux-Lévis and what do you mean Harry with the sword?
To make more sense, "the story about the three dark brothers". 3 dark wisards, get more powerful by deaths items.
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Mmm.. I don't think Voldi has created them neither Ekrisdis.
In case Ekrisdis created them, he would have used them to kill innocents. That would have drawn attention of the ministry to the strange happening of people missing.
Otherwise if Voldi created them, why hasn't he used them for the great Battle of Hogwarts? I mean that would have been such a great army for him to use (if he'd be able to control them).