Great video! Have you ever found out if the original Moza batteries have a protection? I'm asking because the alternatives I've found at 66mm don't have one…
I haven't found enough information on the cells Moza uses (and I'm not willing to take mine apart) to see if they have the circuit cap for protection. I am assuming they do for the price they are charging. Higher priced 3rd party ones do have it, but then it's just a comparison to see who's cheaper in the end.
@@mingeffect Thanks! I had a long talk with a specialist and he assumed the Moza batteries don't have protection, because for that, they would have to be 2mm higher than the standard version. Of course I don't know if that is true, but I couldn't find any info on the Moza batteries about this anywhere. The specialist recommeded the following: Samsung INR18650-30Q - 3,6V - 3,7V, 3000mAh (15A) Button Top. They have a huge stamina, even under heavy load. And they are supposed to be very reliable. I ordered them and they fit perfectly. Will test them very soon!
Yes, Greg, they are, though there are a lot of variety with that battery. We are producing a video that will show everything about what I use, including soldering safety and other options for those who want to dig deeper in the do it yourself domain. Thank you all for commenting.
I don't know if the guys from BM told you but its a huge no-no to be powering the BM externally, through the 12v in, while an LP-E6 battery is inside. It is clearly stated on their official website. Just a warning, a lot of ppl fried their equipment that way
They do indeed give that warning, and it's certainly something to heed. Some people have claimed their LP-E6 battery died quickly that way. I would heed the warnings. Though I have to say, my own experiences with a hard year of use and doing just that, through forgetfulness or what have you, didn't kill my battery or harm the BMPCC4K. But those just might be the outliers, so thanks for keeping that in our minds.
Cool video. Apparently the first batch of gimbals only had a 12V out. Connecting the camera to that will cause dc-dc IC converter (inside the Gimbal) failure in the long run. 16.8V is the newer model and that should be OK because it has a bigger converter along with an improved port. Shame I have got the old one...
Yes, saw the 12v spec in the manual and didn't know what they were talking about, as I didn't have that. Quite happy with the fact I don't. Man, that's a shame. Wonder if they would upgrade you? Although it would prob take 4 months to do :) Fantastic company, long lead times.
@@mingeffect Thank you, I have a question though, does your gimbal say 16.8V or 12V on the cover of the port itself? I would need the info to understand if mine is just faulty...
Do you think you could do a video on balancing it with this setup? I'm having trouble getting it balanced with my smallrig cage, SSD and follow focus attached.
Thank You for making this Excellent Video! and its very help up for me as a newbie. I know you mentioned that you are using locally made batteries. How long they last during the shoot. Where can I buy them. Thanks
Thanks for the video. This is very similar to the setup I'm planning/hoping to use. Where did you get the coiled power cable that goes from the Moza Air 2 to the BMPCC4K?
@@mingeffect Thanks! It's amazing how such small details can have such a huge impact on a system. Using that cable and the Moza Air 2 to turn a great camera with a battery shortcoming into a cinema camera package with a very practical workflow is poetry.
Thank you for the comment. I am thankful for the thing every day. Moza Air 2 and the BMPCC4K have really opened up a lot of pathways and functionality for the creative world.
I always cringe at the thought of magnets around flash memory or other storage media, but it certainly would make it a quick attachment. For me, velcro is like gaffer's tape. Use it everywhere. Thank you for commenting.
Great video! Have you ever found out if the original Moza batteries have a protection? I'm asking because the alternatives I've found at 66mm don't have one…
I haven't found enough information on the cells Moza uses (and I'm not willing to take mine apart) to see if they have the circuit cap for protection. I am assuming they do for the price they are charging. Higher priced 3rd party ones do have it, but then it's just a comparison to see who's cheaper in the end.
@@mingeffect Thanks! I had a long talk with a specialist and he assumed the Moza batteries don't have protection, because for that, they would have to be 2mm higher than the standard version. Of course I don't know if that is true, but I couldn't find any info on the Moza batteries about this anywhere. The specialist recommeded the following: Samsung INR18650-30Q - 3,6V - 3,7V, 3000mAh (15A) Button Top. They have a huge stamina, even under heavy load. And they are supposed to be very reliable. I ordered them and they fit perfectly. Will test them very soon!
Good lord that looks heavy. My back hurts just seeing that setup!
Haha. Well, that might explain my strength.
Yes please on info for batteries. I have been looking for info on 18650 solutions.
I second this
I think there the pink samsung 18650
Yes, Greg, they are, though there are a lot of variety with that battery. We are producing a video that will show everything about what I use, including soldering safety and other options for those who want to dig deeper in the do it yourself domain. Thank you all for commenting.
@@mingeffect So do you need to do something to those Samsung 18650s before using them?
@@mingeffect Yes I need to find which battery to order.
I wish there was a way to power the gimbal from an external power source.
They added that feature-which I've had to use-on the Air Cross 2.
I don't know if the guys from BM told you but its a huge no-no to be powering the BM externally, through the 12v in, while an LP-E6 battery is inside. It is clearly stated on their official website. Just a warning, a lot of ppl fried their equipment that way
Using an LP-E6 dummy battery is ok, or the 12v 2pin, but without any battery inside of course
They do indeed give that warning, and it's certainly something to heed. Some people have claimed their LP-E6 battery died quickly that way. I would heed the warnings. Though I have to say, my own experiences with a hard year of use and doing just that, through forgetfulness or what have you, didn't kill my battery or harm the BMPCC4K. But those just might be the outliers, so thanks for keeping that in our minds.
where do you find the cable for powering the pocket thanks
Here it is - DC 5.5/2.5 Power Cable Coiled Cable for BMPCC 4K: amzn.to/2wfb5qD
How well will the gimbal balance if you attach the new battery grip to the bmpcc4k?
I bought Samsung 3500mha And mine it holds easily up to 3 hours..
Cool video. Apparently the first batch of gimbals only had a 12V out. Connecting the camera to that will cause dc-dc IC converter (inside the Gimbal) failure in the long run. 16.8V is the newer model and that should be OK because it has a bigger converter along with an improved port. Shame I have got the old one...
Yes, saw the 12v spec in the manual and didn't know what they were talking about, as I didn't have that. Quite happy with the fact I don't. Man, that's a shame. Wonder if they would upgrade you? Although it would prob take 4 months to do :) Fantastic company, long lead times.
@@mingeffectI have just contacted Gudsen, took them a while to reply but we'll se what they can come up with.
I wish you the best. Let me know how it goes.
@@mingeffect Thank you, I have a question though, does your gimbal say 16.8V or 12V on the cover of the port itself? I would need the info to understand if mine is just faulty...
16.8v - on the multi tester it puts out about 16.5 consistently
Really helpful video... I was wondering where you found the wire to plug the camera and the gimbal?
It's in the description, I just updated it to include the link. Thank you for watching.
Do you think you could do a video on balancing it with this setup? I'm having trouble getting it balanced with my smallrig cage, SSD and follow focus attached.
I will definitely do that. Thank you for asking.
What is the device you have clipped on the top left(plug side) of the camera?
That's an old cheap Movo receiver. No longer in use as I have happily switched to the tiny, but powerful Rode Wireless Go.
Thank You for making this Excellent Video! and its very help up for me as a newbie. I know you mentioned that you are using locally made batteries. How long they last during the shoot. Where can I buy them. Thanks
Thank you for the comment. Please see my other comment in this section for your answer
Thanks for the video. This is very similar to the setup I'm planning/hoping to use. Where did you get the coiled power cable that goes from the Moza Air 2 to the BMPCC4K?
I just updated the description to include a link to Amazon for the cable I use. Thank you for asking.
@@mingeffect Thanks! It's amazing how such small details can have such a huge impact on a system. Using that cable and the Moza Air 2 to turn a great camera with a battery shortcoming into a cinema camera package with a very practical workflow is poetry.
Thank you for the comment. I am thankful for the thing every day. Moza Air 2 and the BMPCC4K have really opened up a lot of pathways and functionality for the creative world.
Booked Moza Air 2 and BMPCC.(^_^)vChange to the same specifications 日本から応援
I did same thing but I mounted my T5 SSD to the Gimbal plate using magnetic tape and it works perfectly..
I always cringe at the thought of magnets around flash memory or other storage media, but it certainly would make it a quick attachment. For me, velcro is like gaffer's tape. Use it everywhere. Thank you for commenting.