I feel as though I'm going insane, why does it seem as though the BMPCC is too wide for this gimbal 😭 thank you for your tutorial I notice at 9:15 in your video, it looks as though the small rig is slightly off centre from the quick release plate. Can you tell me how you manage to fit the camera on the gimbal please?
could u please tell how r u offsetting the plate without cheese plate? I have the same cage and the cage has only one big hole in the middle only so I can't offset and screw the big one in the cage? did you replace big screw of the plate with a small one to fit in the cage? thanks
You have so much space between the side of the gimbal and your BMCC4k. How did you do that? Mine is so close to the side that I can’t even have my small rig on 😣 any advice here would be so greatly appreciated.
I have to much space between the L bracket connected to the Gimbal and the side of the Camera and It leans to the right to much . Like it's to heavy on the right side. How can I go about fixing this.
Hello, thanks for your videos that guides us about this gimbal. I'd like to ask some questions and appreciate if you answer: 1- Can I use an AC adapter from the wall to power entire setup (Moza Air 2/BMPCC4K/HDD/Monitor) via the port on the shaft? If yes dou you know exact specs of the adapter? 2- When I use alternative battery options like Ultrafire, should I use same original Moza charging adapter or change it too? What causes the main problem, batteries, charger or charging method? 3- It's written on many internet pages that suggest to charge original Moza batteries one by one everytime. Did you try that and what do you think? Hopefully I didn't occupy your time and thank you...
3:24 are you saying that you can controll the focus on electronic lenses using the wheel on the gimbal? Does that work with the moza air 2 and the p4k?
Yes-with the ifocus wireless follow focus device. I was able to get mine free on a special they had going. If you get on their newsletters, they send you those deals when they happen.
Great video! Do you have the contact info of the company that makes the blue batteries you use? I have two sets of the moza batteries and I only get about an hour to hour and a half use with them. I am only powering the camera too...nothing else.
I know this is an older video but I was wondering if there was a way to control the bmpcc4k with the gimble or have the gimble kind of "see" through the camera. Like if you wanted to use the feature of tracking a target could you do that with this gimble and camera?
They do have a gyro-track setup you can use in the iPhone app (don't have android, so I can't comment there), where you lock the gimbal to the iPhone's movement--it's actually pretty cool. You could use a head mount for the iPhone and then use, by proxy, your head movement to aim the camera via the gimbal.
Hi, 1 question. at 17:41 ua-cam.com/video/Yp6lkNMWJtM/v-deo.html with the mic set up on top (and i presume you put everything on their right balance) you start the auto calibration, BUT, when you do that, the camera tilts up (wich you have edited in all the calibration parts, cut out) , does the mic bang the motor? (asking because when you were calibrating manually , you took the rig slightly to the left in order to not hit the motor) but when you do calibrate automatically machine checks all the axis, so it hits the mic¿? thank you i hope you understand my question
You'll see at about the 28 min mark I actually balance it slightly forward so it isn't hitting the mic. When it auto-calibrates and does its dance, it doesn't tilt back that far to hit the mic at all. The auto-calibrate only jiggles slightly on its axis's so there's no worry. The motors are strong enough to withstand that slight imbalance. Really not a problem.
i cant get the wheel to make the camera look up and down...only roll the horizon..i spent 4 hours trying to find the setting...i know it can do it cause ive seen it do it but apparently mine didn't come with that ability
Thank You for making this Excellent Video! and its very help up for me as a newbie. I know you mentioned that you are using locally made batteries. How long they last during the shoot. Where can I buy them. Thanks
I actually get them through here www.18650batterystore.com And then I take them to a local power supply company that handles industrial power generators, etc. I will be making a video on the process where they tap-weld the tab on it with a special welder - does it in like 1-second. Currently, I'm holding off sending my Moza Air 2 back to the company for repair (keeps coming up with 02 errors) because of the unrest in Hong Kong at the moment. I'm looking to get the Moza Air Cross 2 in the meantime. I'll post videos when that happens.
@@mingeffect Hey there! I just came across your video trying to balance my Bmp4k with the moza, BUT I would be very interested in your battery solutions as well! Have you done a video on that in the past year? I'm assuming you're talking about moza batteries, but it'd be neat if that company could do NPF as well.
In this case, I didn't have it with me. Been looking at the IR cut filters and might have one that I will try, but overall, I've seen they soften the image some. Not sure if that will work for me. I'll post a vid when I get one. Already shot some stuff with the SLR magic ND filter showing the color cast nicely and that will be used as comparison.
Thank you very much for doing this ! Quick question, I was talking with a rep from moza. They were saying that they’ve had situations where when you’re powering the camera through the gimbal that if you have a battery in camera cases have come up where the dc in for the gimbal burns out ? Curious on your thoughts
I have done it both ways (in a rush, I forget to remove the battery at times), but I haven't noticed a degradation in the battery. Though I am NOT saying you may not have this happen, I just haven't had it happen yet.
I just timed it yesterday using that exact setup and constant filming (meaning active planning shots and recording when actors were ready). With the supplied Moza batteries it ran from 909am to 953am. 44 minutes. That's full use of the stabilizer in moving shots using Q5 BRAW to my 1TB G-Drive, NTG-2 phantom power 48v. The stabilizer was never turned off during that time and was always working the motors.
That's constant use. I mean continuous movement, full 48v power to the mic, and extensive recording to the ssd. wanted to max it out for you all. If you are intermittent with it, powering down the camera and/or the stabilizer, you will get longer times. Using the other 18650 batteries, which I am making a video about, you can get up to 2 hrs or more.
Great videos on the Moza Air 2. Have you had any problems with the Moza Master app (IOS)? After initially connecting, the app can't find the gimbal, and won't connect. It seems a few people are having this problem. Just wondering whether you have, and if there is a fix? Thanks.
I just found a work around. I think I've found a bug. If the ifocus m is plugged into power when the gimbal is turned on, the app can't locate the gimbal. If you unplug the ifocus m, before powering on the gimbal, then the app can find the gimbal, and you can then plug the ifocus back in.
Thanks for those people who may have this problem. I've never had that problem myself. That and the app for the Moza Air Cross work without a hitch for me on IOS.
First and foremost thank you for taking the time to create and post this. Fantastic video. I just purchase the BMD 6k and the Moza Air2 so the timing is perfect. This is going to save me a lot of time. I live in Florida too. If we live near by I'd buy you a beer for your efforts. Looks like you are in the keys shooting this which I'm there a lot. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for a great informative video. Graham.
If you haven't already. Smallrig just came out with this offset plate specifically for the Moza Air 2. www.smallrig.com/smallrig-offset-kit-for-bmpcc-4k-and-ronin-s-crane-2-moza-air-2-bss2403.html
I have almost the same set up as you do, how can I connect rode NTG2 using the mini XLR cable from the camera, how would you balance the camera, you know the small cable connects to a long XLR cable attached to the microphone. Thanks in advance for your advice.
In truth, I've never actually tried the inception mode. It just isn't something I use for my filming. You'd certainly have to secure the drive and remove the external NTG-2 mic connection, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
Thank you so much for the video. For some reason, I can't seem to fit the camera with the smallrig cage on the moza air 2. There is not enough space between the cage and the tilt motor. Am I doing something wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
This is great. Thanks for sharing. I have a question, are you having difficulty using inception mode with the BMPCC & Cage on your Moza Air 2? For some reason when I try to do the full 360 it stops half way through? I can't seem to find anyone with the same set up and I have a shoot tomorrow so if you have any advice tips & I'd truly appreciate it. Thanks Man!! Keep being great!
I have actually never used the inception mode, sorry. I just haven't found a need for it at this point, so I've never even tried it. I would let you know how it goes, but I have it on the way to Gudsen for repair or replace. Kept coming up with error code (02) and nothing I did got it to work steadily. Fortunately, I have the Moza Air Cross as my stand in, but man, I miss that trigger and spin dial. I'll let everyone know how it goes, once they get it and let me know what's going on with it.
Your pan axis is not correctly balanced. I had the same issue. Lay your fully rigged up gimbal with camera, lens etc horizontally, balance your pan axis. That's it. Your inception mode will work now.
I've actually used it with a monster Nikon DX 18-105 with adapter. Worked very well. The Moza is a beast.
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@@mingeffect Thank you for the reply :D Hope to rig it up with the sigma and follow focus, will buy a strap first or my arms will fall off after a day of shooting xD
Great insightful stuff! I actually got myself the Moza air 2 not long ago with BMPCC4K! I was wondering if you had a top 5 personal favourite lenses for this camera? Especially if you're doing gimbal work. I am really loving the look of the Sigma 18-35 from what I've seen! I only own full frame lenses at the moment with a fotodiox adapter though, need to do some more saving for speedbooster and lenses haha
@@georg782 Hi Georg, I have not been able to try the 18-35 with a speedbooster on the BMPCC4K and Moza air 2 yet unfortunately :( but I am still very much interested in buying this lens especially for gimbal work as I have been working for a company that let me use their GH5S and 18-35 on a Ronin s gimbal. The lens itself is not the lightest but I wouldn't say it's as chunky / heavy as some other full frames, I'm quite sure that the BMPCC4K, sigma 18-35 and the Moza air 2 would work just fine and could handle well. It is just an assumption but I'm basing it off having held the lens before and also watching plenty of UA-cam / Vimeo vids of people's work using that combination :') Long story short I may test this out myself sometime soon so I'll keep you posted if so!
Hey James, thanks for your answer. Ok, I was about worried how front heavy the setup is. But I think it should work. But also the Follow focus might be an issue, as I tried the tilta nucleus nano which couldn't really handle the sigma. I hope the ff from Moza is stronger.
Great video! Really helpful to know how much I can start to rig this thing up. BTW magnets do not effect SSD drives at all. Old school disk drives and floppy drives use magnets to store data. SSD drives use NAND flash. Wont be a problem 👍🏻
Thank you for the comment and the info. You're absolutely right. Did a lot of testing myself and will upload a vid showing writing to a drive while under a strong magnet. Should be up later today.
hello friend .. first of all its a great materiel that your putting out there, and just for it to be known, your video was the deceive factor by which i landed upon this combo moza air 2 and bmppc 4k for movie making, and wow what a combo its !!, so thanks a million for sharing, now regarding that power solution which is outstanding, i was hoping if you can please share a link where i may purchase the batteries, may all of your endeavors meet success, thank you thank you and thank you a million times over, your friend all the way from across the planet, qais bogammaz from kuwait.
Really??? Thats your comment. Maybe you could do us a video on this shot in a studio with lighting and perfect sound. I know we would all appreciate it. Geez.
Can you control the camera with the gimbal? Like can I hit record from the Moza? And if yes.. What cable would you use?
I feel as though I'm going insane, why does it seem as though the BMPCC is too wide for this gimbal 😭 thank you for your tutorial I notice at 9:15 in your video, it looks as though the small rig is slightly off centre from the quick release plate. Can you tell me how you manage to fit the camera on the gimbal please?
How are you gettin so much space for your bm to fit? I cont to get scrapping
Can a full rig with a matte box setup be placed on this gimbal or the moza air cross 2?
Well, simply the best video on the Moza air 2 with the BMPCC4K. Thank you for doing this :)
You're welcome
could u please tell how r u offsetting the plate without cheese plate? I have the same cage and the cage has only one big hole in the middle only so I can't offset and screw the big one in the cage? did you replace big screw of the plate with a small one to fit in the cage? thanks
You have so much space between the side of the gimbal and your BMCC4k. How did you do that? Mine is so close to the side that I can’t even have my small rig on 😣 any advice here would be so greatly appreciated.
I have the same issue.. can anyone help? thanks
SmallRig Offset Kit for BMPCC 4 and 6 works !
I have to much space between the L bracket connected to the Gimbal and the side of the Camera and It leans to the right to much . Like it's to heavy on the right side. How can I go about fixing this.
Hello, thanks for your videos that guides us about this gimbal. I'd like to ask some questions and appreciate if you answer:
1- Can I use an AC adapter from the wall to power entire setup (Moza Air 2/BMPCC4K/HDD/Monitor) via the port on the shaft? If yes dou you know exact specs of the adapter?
2- When I use alternative battery options like Ultrafire, should I use same original Moza charging adapter or change it too? What causes the main problem, batteries, charger or charging method?
3- It's written on many internet pages that suggest to charge original Moza batteries one by one everytime. Did you try that and what do you think?
Hopefully I didn't occupy your time and thank you...
3:24 are you saying that you can controll the focus on electronic lenses using the wheel on the gimbal? Does that work with the moza air 2 and the p4k?
Yes-with the ifocus wireless follow focus device. I was able to get mine free on a special they had going. If you get on their newsletters, they send you those deals when they happen.
Great video! Do you have the contact info of the company that makes the blue batteries you use? I have two sets of the moza batteries and I only get about an hour to hour and a half use with them. I am only powering the camera too...nothing else.
I know this is an older video but I was wondering if there was a way to control the bmpcc4k with the gimble or have the gimble kind of "see" through the camera. Like if you wanted to use the feature of tracking a target could you do that with this gimble and camera?
They do have a gyro-track setup you can use in the iPhone app (don't have android, so I can't comment there), where you lock the gimbal to the iPhone's movement--it's actually pretty cool. You could use a head mount for the iPhone and then use, by proxy, your head movement to aim the camera via the gimbal.
Hi. Quick question. I've heard stories of people's Moza Air 2 dying. How is yours holding up since this video is about 10 months old now?
Most informative video i've come across yet thank you so much for sharing
You are welcome. Thank you for commenting.
I can mount without my small rig but not w. Ty!
Hi, 1 question. at 17:41
ua-cam.com/video/Yp6lkNMWJtM/v-deo.html
with the mic set up on top (and i presume you put everything on their right balance) you start the auto calibration, BUT, when you do that, the camera tilts up (wich you have edited in all the calibration parts, cut out) , does the mic bang the motor? (asking because when you were calibrating manually , you took the rig slightly to the left in order to not hit the motor) but when you do calibrate automatically machine checks all the axis, so it hits the mic¿?
thank you i hope you understand my question
You'll see at about the 28 min mark I actually balance it slightly forward so it isn't hitting the mic. When it auto-calibrates and does its dance, it doesn't tilt back that far to hit the mic at all. The auto-calibrate only jiggles slightly on its axis's so there's no worry. The motors are strong enough to withstand that slight imbalance. Really not a problem.
i cant get the wheel to make the camera look up and down...only roll the horizon..i spent 4 hours trying to find the setting...i know it can do it cause ive seen it do it but apparently mine didn't come with that ability
Thank You for making this Excellent Video! and its very help up for me as a newbie. I know you mentioned that you are using locally made batteries. How long they last during the shoot. Where can I buy them. Thanks
I actually get them through here www.18650batterystore.com
And then I take them to a local power supply company that handles industrial power generators, etc. I will be making a video on the process where they tap-weld the tab on it with a special welder - does it in like 1-second. Currently, I'm holding off sending my Moza Air 2 back to the company for repair (keeps coming up with 02 errors) because of the unrest in Hong Kong at the moment. I'm looking to get the Moza Air Cross 2 in the meantime. I'll post videos when that happens.
@@mingeffect Hey there! I just came across your video trying to balance my Bmp4k with the moza, BUT I would be very interested in your battery solutions as well! Have you done a video on that in the past year? I'm assuming you're talking about moza batteries, but it'd be neat if that company could do NPF as well.
link to the matte box?
Neewer Plastic 15 mm Rail Rods Matte Box: amzn.to/2Vt2HNm
Thank you for your very nice video a thing that i noticed is that you dont use no IRDN cut filter or Nd filter .. why?
In this case, I didn't have it with me. Been looking at the IR cut filters and might have one that I will try, but overall, I've seen they soften the image some. Not sure if that will work for me. I'll post a vid when I get one. Already shot some stuff with the SLR magic ND filter showing the color cast nicely and that will be used as comparison.
Thank you very much for doing this ! Quick question, I was talking with a rep from moza. They were saying that they’ve had situations where when you’re powering the camera through the gimbal that if you have a battery in camera cases have come up where the dc in for the gimbal burns out ? Curious on your thoughts
I have done it both ways (in a rush, I forget to remove the battery at times), but I haven't noticed a degradation in the battery. Though I am NOT saying you may not have this happen, I just haven't had it happen yet.
This may be a silly question but where did you purchase the power cable that connects to the gimbal?
Here's my affiliate link for that cable through Amazon: amzn.to/2WEorpD
Great video. How many hours/minutes are you getting with the supplied Moza batteries powering the camera + gimbal + ssd + mic?
I just timed it yesterday using that exact setup and constant filming (meaning active planning shots and recording when actors were ready). With the supplied Moza batteries it ran from 909am to 953am. 44 minutes. That's full use of the stabilizer in moving shots using Q5 BRAW to my 1TB G-Drive, NTG-2 phantom power 48v. The stabilizer was never turned off during that time and was always working the motors.
@@mingeffect thanks for taking the time to test
Another question, have you set up an external monitor on this at all?
@@mingeffect holy snikies thats a short period of time.
That's constant use. I mean continuous movement, full 48v power to the mic, and extensive recording to the ssd. wanted to max it out for you all. If you are intermittent with it, powering down the camera and/or the stabilizer, you will get longer times. Using the other 18650 batteries, which I am making a video about, you can get up to 2 hrs or more.
What Matte Box do you use?
This one right here: amzn.to/2Vt2HNm
Thank you very much!! :)
Which Matte Box is that?
This one right here (for $16): Neewer Plastic 15 mm Rail Rods Matte Box: amzn.to/2Vt2HNm
Great videos on the Moza Air 2. Have you had any problems with the Moza Master app (IOS)? After initially connecting, the app can't find the gimbal, and won't connect. It seems a few people are having this problem. Just wondering whether you have, and if there is a fix? Thanks.
I just found a work around. I think I've found a bug. If the ifocus m is plugged into power when the gimbal is turned on, the app can't locate the gimbal. If you unplug the ifocus m, before powering on the gimbal, then the app can find the gimbal, and you can then plug the ifocus back in.
Thanks for those people who may have this problem. I've never had that problem myself. That and the app for the Moza Air Cross work without a hitch for me on IOS.
First and foremost thank you for taking the time to create and post this. Fantastic video. I just purchase the BMD 6k and the Moza Air2 so the timing is perfect. This is going to save me a lot of time. I live in Florida too. If we live near by I'd buy you a beer for your efforts. Looks like you are in the keys shooting this which I'm there a lot. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for a great informative video. Graham.
How are you offsetting the camera to have it fit with the cage? Got the same cage, but the cage if butting up to the Gimbel
If you haven't already. Smallrig just came out with this offset plate specifically for the Moza Air 2. www.smallrig.com/smallrig-offset-kit-for-bmpcc-4k-and-ronin-s-crane-2-moza-air-2-bss2403.html
Good to know they're on it.
I have almost the same set up as you do, how can I connect rode NTG2 using the mini XLR cable from the camera, how would you balance the camera, you know the small cable connects to a long XLR cable attached to the microphone. Thanks in advance for your advice.
I actually show you how in this very video. Keep watching, I start doing it at about the 30 min mark.
@@mingeffect yes I see it, I needed to finish watching the video, thank you again for the wonderful explanation, you deserve a big THANKS.
Is it ok to use the wires provided by moza air 2 to power the bmpcc 4k?
I actually this one amzn.to/2wfb5qD. I got one of the first Moza Air 2's and there were no power plugs for the BMPCC4k with it.
Very helpfull video, does this set up handle 360 Inception mode?
In truth, I've never actually tried the inception mode. It just isn't something I use for my filming. You'd certainly have to secure the drive and remove the external NTG-2 mic connection, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
Thank you so much for the video. For some reason, I can't seem to fit the camera with the smallrig cage on the moza air 2. There is not enough space between the cage and the tilt motor. Am I doing something wrong? Any help would be much appreciated.
Make sure you have the mounting plate offset a bit at the bottom of the cage, and that should fix your problem.
@@mingeffect Thank you.
Nice video, for how long the moza air power the blackmagic?
I can get about 2-3 hours.
This is great. Thanks for sharing. I have a question, are you having difficulty using inception mode with the BMPCC & Cage on your Moza Air 2? For some reason when I try to do the full 360 it stops half way through? I can't seem to find anyone with the same set up and I have a shoot tomorrow so if you have any advice tips & I'd truly appreciate it. Thanks Man!! Keep being great!
I have actually never used the inception mode, sorry. I just haven't found a need for it at this point, so I've never even tried it. I would let you know how it goes, but I have it on the way to Gudsen for repair or replace. Kept coming up with error code (02) and nothing I did got it to work steadily. Fortunately, I have the Moza Air Cross as my stand in, but man, I miss that trigger and spin dial. I'll let everyone know how it goes, once they get it and let me know what's going on with it.
Your pan axis is not correctly balanced. I had the same issue. Lay your fully rigged up gimbal with camera, lens etc horizontally, balance your pan axis. That's it. Your inception mode will work now.
If you could put the links of those gears, that'll be perfect!
Thank you for the reminder, I shall get on that
@@mingeffect Could you send a link for the power cable that you're using?
Will it handle with the sigma 18-35?
I've actually used it with a monster Nikon DX 18-105 with adapter. Worked very well. The Moza is a beast.
@@mingeffect Thank you for the reply :D
Hope to rig it up with the sigma and follow focus, will buy a strap first or my arms will fall off after a day of shooting xD
I use the sigma.. great.. but i hope you work out!!!!!!
Thank you so much for making this video.
Glad to have helped.
Hi can you do a video on power management for BMPCC 4K, Gimbal and monitor all set to one rig.
Yes I can. That's in production. Thank you for the request.
Great insightful stuff! I actually got myself the Moza air 2 not long ago with BMPCC4K! I was wondering if you had a top 5 personal favourite lenses for this camera? Especially if you're doing gimbal work. I am really loving the look of the Sigma 18-35 from what I've seen! I only own full frame lenses at the moment with a fotodiox adapter though, need to do some more saving for speedbooster and lenses haha
James Nicholson Hey James, did u purchase the sigma 18-35? Does it work well ok the gimbal with the bmpcc 4K? Would be great to hear from you.
@@georg782 Hi Georg, I have not been able to try the 18-35 with a speedbooster on the BMPCC4K and Moza air 2 yet unfortunately :( but I am still very much interested in buying this lens especially for gimbal work as I have been working for a company that let me use their GH5S and 18-35 on a Ronin s gimbal. The lens itself is not the lightest but I wouldn't say it's as chunky / heavy as some other full frames, I'm quite sure that the BMPCC4K, sigma 18-35 and the Moza air 2 would work just fine and could handle well. It is just an assumption but I'm basing it off having held the lens before and also watching plenty of UA-cam / Vimeo vids of people's work using that combination :') Long story short I may test this out myself sometime soon so I'll keep you posted if so!
Hey James, thanks for your answer.
Ok, I was about worried how front heavy the setup is. But I think it should work. But also the Follow focus might be an issue, as I tried the tilta nucleus nano which couldn't really handle the sigma.
I hope the ff from Moza is stronger.
カッコいいです！同じ様に、改造します！！ありがとう。It's cool! I will remodel in the same way! !! Thank you.
Thank you
The 6k don't fit in 😕😕
The 6k is a bit of a bigger beast, indeed.
Great video! Really helpful to know how much I can start to rig this thing up.
BTW magnets do not effect SSD drives at all. Old school disk drives and floppy drives use magnets to store data. SSD drives use NAND flash. Wont be a problem 👍🏻
Thank you for the comment and the info. You're absolutely right. Did a lot of testing myself and will upload a vid showing writing to a drive while under a strong magnet. Should be up later today.
Some fill light would have been nice so we could see what you are doing.
Point noted
i cant balance this shit on any way!!! always with the motors strugling and entering on sleep mode seconds after turned on
hello friend .. first of all its a great materiel that your putting out there, and just for it to be known, your video was the deceive factor by which i landed upon this combo moza air 2 and bmppc 4k for movie making, and wow what a combo its !!, so thanks a million for sharing, now regarding that power solution which is outstanding, i was hoping if you can please share a link where i may purchase the batteries, may all of your endeavors meet success, thank you thank you and thank you a million times over, your friend all the way from across the planet, qais bogammaz from kuwait.
You are doing the yaw/pan adjustment completely wrong but that's how you have been always doing it.
The shade and the fact that the camera, and the entire rig is all black, really made this video difficult to watch.
Got it, thank you
Really??? Thats your comment. Maybe you could do us a video on this shot in a studio with lighting and perfect sound. I know we would all appreciate it. Geez.