Thank you for the vid, I have a setup that allows for the same configuration you have but will run many hours. I have a v-mount battery connected to the DC input on the handle of the Moza Air 2. I put the v-mount battery in a pouch on my belt so the weight is no longer a factor. Also, I have a long cord to connect the two so not to restrict movement. The cable can be secured down the handle via a clasp, tape whatever is the preference. This allows me to shoot for many hours not worried by power loss/changing batteries etc...
So you can power the BMPCC 4K from the Moza Air 2 while also powering the Moza Air 2 from a V mount battery? How much time do you get from a setup like that? I'm thinking of getting the Tilta V mount battery baseplate ( www.amazon.com/Tilta-V-Mount-Baseplate-TA-BSP-V-G-Extended/dp/B07RMGTJRH/ ) and screwing onto the bottom of the gimbal, then screwing on the gimbal tripod to the bottom of that.
I've been really interested in making a similar setup because the gimbal definitely breaks my back after an 8 hour day. Do you happen to have a photo you can show me? I'd love to have a starting point from someone who's done it!
@@fomoPhil a vmount battery+ the cage + gimbal + camera + lens you will die after 2h of shooting. Put the vmount battery on your belt and keep working for 6-8 hours
I got a blackmagic to 5.5 x 2.5 cable and it works perfectly. I adapted my v mount to the same cable so I never need to unplug that tiny connector from the cam.
Great review! You are not using a Motor for the Focus… Is the focus wheel at the gimbal directly working with the camera? directly? Does this also work for Canon lenses on the bmpcc 4k? Thx!!!
@Moza When will Air 2 be able to control things on BMPCC4k like iso with the wheel and stop/start rec with the button? What cable will be needed for this?
jdmkun I have not been able to stop/start record which sucks. Still not sure about the cable either sorry. I did the updates on both gimbal and camera and didn’t see anything for Recording
@@GudsenMOZA I'm having trouble with the Aircross 2, not the Air 2, didn't read the title correctly the first time. Watching another tutorial, it seems like I'll need some counterweights, does that sound right?
I have the camera and Moza Air 2 but can't get the gimbal to power the camera. Could you explain how it should be set up? As someone has pointed out, in the video it appears the cable is connected to the power IN on the gimbal. Thanks
For those still looking for the answer to this, it does indeed work. You need a 2.1mm connector, and it connects to the DC-out near the base plate, not on the arm as it appears in the video. A superb power solution.
@@kylelittlejohn9977 here you go:www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-BMPCC-4K-Camera-Power-Cable-Cord-Wire-DC-Socket-Interface-5-5x2-1mm/264288754312?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@@pineapplejam. any ideas why 2.1 works and 2.5 doesn't? Or is it a bit too technical to figure out without going really into it haha. And any idea of this setup damaging the gimbal or camera?
How you power up the camera with a DC Input port? Is the DC In not a DC In? Or is it also a DC Out? Because in the Manual it is a DC IN and I used the gimbal also with an AC Adapter. Please can you answer me my question, how you power the camera up?
At certain angles/movements, my Moza Air 2 keeps dropping and I have to recenter it. Especially when I tilt all the way up. It just fails. I've calibrated it, adjusted the settings, everything. Do you know what it could be? At first I thought it was because it was too heavy with my Sigma 18-35mm mounted, but it does the same thing on lighter lenses.
I can't get the bmpcc4k with a smallrig full cage to rotate horizontally in inception mode? It works fine vertically but I don't want to be filming up at the ceiling or sky. I think it has something to do with the cameras weight and the the motors strength. I've even tried the motor power in heavy mode and the camera still won't do a 360° roll. Just gives up. Can anyone help?
I'm guessing you may need to balance the slider down at the base. I use a similar setup and it works just fine. So put it horizontal and go through the movements by hand and you'll see where it's off balance.
Just got mine in today (2nd hand) and I discovered another power connector in the bracket under the camera. So the entire power lead is balanced and you have less risk to get caught on something.
I do not understand that there is no need for an extra plate. In my setip the bmppc.4k is to wide to fit. So I use a Smallrig construction special for more room for the 4K.
@Gudsen MOZA does the iFous work with BMPCC 4K? And what cables exactly would I need to buy to charge my BMPCC 4K to the gimbal and what batteries could I but for the crane to recharge it quickly?
@@GudsenMOZA Thanks! What cables exactly would I need to buy to charge my BMPCC 4K to the gimbal and what batteries could I but for the crane to recharge it quickly?
@@danielaviles7676 it's not crane! :) Maybe Gudsen can't answer you about powering camera from gimbal since some users reported 12v output burned after some usage. They won't answer because the gimbal user manual say 12v/2A, should be enough for the pocket 4k, but they are burned...
www.gudsen.com/download/MOZA-Air-2-Camera-Compatibility-List.pdf you can find the answer here, from what I learned, the MOZA Aircross 2 can power the BMCC4k, not the MOZA Air2
Awesome Ty! I bought the Moza Air 2 I’m enjoying it. I have a lot to learn, but in the video it looks like he said that he could power his bmpcc4k to the Moza air 2, but I’ll do some research. Thanks again! I appreciate it
Arber, you have very simple, informative material. Question about plate mount ( on Camera, which comes in moza box to attach to their plate on moza air 2... ( Plate has one large stronger screw , : this screw fits only on bottom center of the small rig cage,applicable cage for bmpcc4k,,,,...Problem...On the gimbal the bmpcc4k must be mounted to side. Where this large strong screw of mounting plate does not fit.. So experimenting, take large screw out of plate . Replace it with the Mozaincluded in box. Other, but smaller plate screw; herein, plate to small rig cage, being “held” by unintended, and weaker secure method. Actually causing a shifting between plate and small rig cage at times. Also with use screws , by their nature , loosen over time.. which will cause unknown negative plate shifting behavior... SO , 1) either the small rig cage ( great cage) is not suited for this forced use of smaller thereby, less depth, less grip of screw area weaker. SO, 1) Are you familiar with this phenomenon. ? 2) does small rig or Manfrotto or other plate solution which utilizes the large center screw in bottom center of sr cage, to offer a three screw mount, a. Large screw in center , securing plate that can offset plate as needed, with the offset plate having the same template design Of the Mosa plate,,,Except an angled off portion to secure with the larger Centered screw hole to place the larger screw? 2) if you are familiar with this phenomenon,;;;;Is there a hack plate small rig has that accommodates, a shift mount of the included Mosa plate. If so; would this now” two plate” To small rig , once attached To Mosa quick release plate on the gimbal. Increase in width. Be just more problematic?making it unusable? 3) The Mosa quick release plate, (sad to say. Seems potential a problem waiting to happen) Do you have knowledge of a more substantial replacement of Mosa Quick release plate. Thereby, a great gimbal as you so knowledgeably display. With this achieles heel . Blessings-You help world..More than you know...thank you...you might not see this....But I hope you feel the truth of your helping...thanks
Thanks for this video. It landed me on the Moza for my 6k. A video I would LOVE to see, and you might be the one to make it, is about mounting options. I'm rigging up for fast moves from tripod to gimbal and it's terribly confusing. I'm using rails which requires a base that wont fit onto a gimbal and will the rails even work on the gimbal? A ton of videos show the interchangeability but I've yet to find one that really explains what is needed for the most flexible, lightest and (as possible) affordable setup. Hoping to be able to use the matte box on the gimbal and not swap out the rails but will they even fit onto the gimbal? So basically a 101 on building up the best way would be fantastic. UPDATE: Got this gimbal and I hate it with a passion. There is no internal HDMI so you have to run a cable which throws the balance off 100% of the time. It is far too small for a BMPCC. The tiny LCD has a ~2mm icon that tells you what mode you're in but it's so small that it's basically useless. 1 of 3 axis lock which is great 1/3 of the time...they should obviously all lock. The battery life is horrid and they take a LONG time to charge...I had a set of mostly-charged batteries on the charger over night and 2 of them are STILL charging. When it goes off balance it shuts off and instead of locking up, it throws your camera into a free spin so it'll beat the crap out of your lens for you. On my first use it did this and it wrecked my brand new VND filter on my attached H4N. Granted, it's only 300 bucks with the ifocus motor so it's at least cheap. If you can't be good, at least be cheap.
The Air2 requires a very good understanding of balancing and works well with super lightweight HDMI leads. Try smallrig for flexible hdmi. Dropping into sleep mode is a sure sign that it isn't balanced.
@@3lendil I like it more now. I do have the Smallrig cable and it's light weight but not super flexible. Going to eventually get a Hollyland Mars. For the price, the Air 2 is pretty decent. I still can't get over the terrible menu system and the 10 or 20 areas where you have to guess what settings to use as the manual is useless.
Hello, great video, thank you! Would you be able to list the name of or link to the charger cable that charges the BMCC4k w Moza Air 2? What a life saver to charge from the Gimble especially for BMCC4k. Thanks again! - Jennifer
Here's the link for your reference: www.amazon.com/Angled-Blackmagic-Pocket-Cinema-Camera/dp/B07M5DXBVT/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=DC+5.5+power+cable+for+BMPCC+4K&qid=1557801612&s=gateway&sr=8-4.
Why are you powering the camera from the DC out on the handle. How come you aren't powering it from the DC out directly on the camera plate of the gimbal. There is a DC out at the base of the plate, you wouldn't need your extension and the cable wouldn't be hanging out like that.
@@Team.Louish Apparently there are two different V output versions of the Moza Air 2. One is 12 and the other is 16.8v. But my first comment applies for both versions.
@@kimkrohnberle As far as I know, the DC out on the handle where you have it plugged in is for powering the gimbal externally. Not for powering your camera. The DC is an INPUT on the handle. There are two DC outputs on the baseplate. 7.4v on the back (towards your screen) and the DC out on the front of the baseplate (towards your lens) is either 12v or 16v depending on which version you have. I don't even know what would happen if you plug the Blackmagic into the handle, since they are both inputs.
I'm trying to balance my bmpcc 4k (follow focus, a tilta cage, 5T SSD, and canon 24-105mm II) and I'm having a lot of trouble. The camera is leaning towards the lens. I saw some other people using the sigma 18-35--it has similar dimensions to the canon 24-105--and it is working for them. Please help!!!
@@SkyeMauMau I am very disappointed with this gimbal. I am still having issues. Now it is leaning to one side and I have to keep centering it with the app.
Thanks for this Review! Did you tried the Moza Air 2 with the BMPCC 4K (with cage) and the Sigma 18-35? Or can you recommend one gimbal that is strong enough for the BMPCC 4K, Cage, Sigma 18-35, Ex Battery & Monitor?
That setup works just fine. You won't need an offset plate. The monitor will be useless as there is a mind boggling lack of internal HDMI and an actual cable will throw the gimbal off balance which will turn it off and cause the camera to rotate and smack against the gimbal. Why the gimbal doesn't just lock when it shuts itself off is beyond me.
Just bought a Moza air 2. But on the power out it says 16.8V and not as shown in the video 12V Will this destroy my pocket 4K? And also the lower Port you are using in this video: the manual tells me it’s an DC-Input!?!?! What is going on? I repeat: Top Port: the Little flexible plastic cap says 16.8V (next to Multi CAN) (i can show pictures of it) Lower port is (that’s what the manual says a dc input port. It’s so strange and I don’t wanna Break my camera. And another thing: I bought the gimbal with a back bag and follow focus and extra batteries. The gave me a tracking number which doesn’t show me where the shipment is and I received from a different logistic company the gimbal but without the accessories. Just the plain gimbal. No extra batteries, no back bag, no follow focus. Still hopping to receive the missing parts and get some answers about the DC-Ports. Thanks (I wrote the support already an email, no reply for two days now) I still believe this could be a great gimbal but this is a big downer at the moment
Also, take a look at 2:54, the battery icon is empty, maybe showing the %. When charging the pocket shows white icon with AC symbols. The guy is fooling himself... :D
Apparently the 12V has been replaced with a 16.8V out on newer models to better handle powering the Pocket 4k. I haven't seen Moza confirming this however.
The BM will accept a voltage range. This is an old post but currently the Air 2 does power the BM cameras. There is no internal HDMI though (face palm) so good luck seeing what you're shooting.
Can anyone help me? I just bought an air 2s and new out of the box is dead. I tried charging it for 2 days. it comes on for a half a second and goes off plugged in. unplugged it don't come on at all. I paid extra to have it delivered in 3 days and would hate to have to send it back and wait God knows how long to get a working one. Is there any way to get the bad batteries out so I can replace them with good batteries? will Moza send me new batteries? I could not find any online for the air 2s. there are pages of batteries for the air 2 that don't do me any good as a air 2s owner:(
Would you please contact us via Email: support@gudsen.com and send necessary information including purchase receipt and video or picture demonstrating the detailed problem?
JUST A WARNING TO YOU ALL: This gimbal does not work with the BMPCC4K in inception mode (horizontally). Which is basically useless if you need it for that. The 4K is too heavy for the gimbals motors with a cage or without with an offset plate.
I'm using this with the 6k, a cage and a Sigma 18-35. Not using the offset plate as the zoom lens forces the camera backwards in the mount. Inception works just fine. The only problem is you can't see what you're shooting because for some reason there is internal power but no internal HDMI. WHY???
The Moza Air 2 comes with two identical plates, that have two screws with different sizes. Because I have the same problem, the solution is offset the camera to the right. In order to achieve this: - Using the two plates, slide the screw to the hole and unscrew it; - Use the same invert process to 'assemble' one plate with the two smaller screws; - Now, attach the plate to the most right side of the Cage (BMCP4K Battery side). Done!! The only inconvenient is that you 'lose' the center of the Camera. Not a problem to balance the Gimbal but the lens support became useless. I hope help I you, this is an amazing piece of gear.
I purchased this gimbal and notice he never talked about controlling the camera you need a third arm, because 2 of them control the gimble, bmp4k is void of auto functions
How did you get the BMPCC to fit onto the gimbal. I just bought this gimbal, I've easily watched 5 youtube video's, everyone LOVES this gimbal, I can not figure out how anyone is mounting a BMPCC 4k/6k camera on this awful piece of equipment. I should've stuck with a Zhiyun, their set up is a walk in the park when compared to Moza 👎👎
Hi there, this quick released plate will help you to mount your camera on MOZA Air 2: store.gudsen.com/collections/moza-air-2-accessories/products/air-2-quick-released-plate
@@GudsenMOZA Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. However, the Moza Air 2 comes with 2 of these QR plates. I have since realised the issue, the BMPCC can not be mounted in the centre of this gimbal, it has to be mounted off to the right, because the camera is so wide. Having bought this gimbal based off many UA-cam reviews, I have NO clue why no one is mentioning one of the first issues of using this gimbal with a BMPCC, it does not fit on to the gimbal in a central position! I am now stuck with this gimbal until I can make money from using it. What an ironic. Here's my review of the Moza Air 2 if you can actually get beyond the mental torture of mounting a BMPCC on to it, and if you still have any interest in the gimbal, I'm sure its half decent. I don't know yet, as I've lost all interest in the less-than-adequate design when used with a BMPCC. All BMPCC owners should do themselves a favour and buy a different gimbal.
Thank you for the vid, I have a setup that allows for the same configuration you have but will run many hours. I have a v-mount battery connected to the DC input on the handle of the Moza Air 2. I put the v-mount battery in a pouch on my belt so the weight is no longer a factor. Also, I have a long cord to connect the two so not to restrict movement. The cable can be secured down the handle via a clasp, tape whatever is the preference. This allows me to shoot for many hours not worried by power loss/changing batteries etc...
So you can power the BMPCC 4K from the Moza Air 2 while also powering the Moza Air 2 from a V mount battery? How much time do you get from a setup like that?
I'm thinking of getting the Tilta V mount battery baseplate ( www.amazon.com/Tilta-V-Mount-Baseplate-TA-BSP-V-G-Extended/dp/B07RMGTJRH/ ) and screwing onto the bottom of the gimbal, then screwing on the gimbal tripod to the bottom of that.
I've been really interested in making a similar setup because the gimbal definitely breaks my back after an 8 hour day. Do you happen to have a photo you can show me? I'd love to have a starting point from someone who's done it!
@@fomoPhil a vmount battery+ the cage + gimbal + camera + lens you will die after 2h of shooting.
Put the vmount battery on your belt and keep working for 6-8 hours
Hey what Tripod would you recommend?
Where do I find this pouch that holds the v mount battery on my belt?
What cable are you using to power the BM with from the Moza Air?
Michael Kelly have you figured that out yet?
@@TyRae Hey says it in the video at 1:06 - it's the cable pack from Blackmagic
I got a blackmagic to 5.5 x 2.5 cable and it works perfectly. I adapted my v mount to the same cable so I never need to unplug that tiny connector from the cam.
Great review! You are not using a Motor for the Focus… Is the focus wheel at the gimbal directly working with the camera? directly? Does this also work for Canon lenses on the bmpcc 4k? Thx!!!
how did you mount the plate on the bottom of the smallrig? it's shifted to one side.
@Moza When will Air 2 be able to control things on BMPCC4k like iso with the wheel and stop/start rec with the button? What cable will be needed for this?
This is being planned at the present moment , our Research and Development Department is working hard on it.
Gudsen MOZA thanks I’m loving this Gimbal and would love to test our other Moza stuff in the future. Keep it up
@@stuff_i_liked1815 Any update on this? Can you stop/start record and is there a BMPCC 4k specific cable available?
jdmkun I have not been able to stop/start record which sucks. Still not sure about the cable either sorry. I did the updates on both gimbal and camera and didn’t see anything for Recording
Still no info on controlling BMPCC 4K? is this ever going to happen?
Can you do the same thing with the Moza Air 2S to power the BMPCC 4k ?
How did you get it balanced with the cage? I had to strip everything off my BPCC to get it to balance.
Can you contact our service center, they will help you out with balance issue. support@gudsen.com
@@GudsenMOZA I'm having trouble with the Aircross 2, not the Air 2, didn't read the title correctly the first time. Watching another tutorial, it seems like I'll need some counterweights, does that sound right?
I have the camera and Moza Air 2 but can't get the gimbal to power the camera. Could you explain how it should be set up? As someone has pointed out, in the video it appears the cable is connected to the power IN on the gimbal. Thanks
For those still looking for the answer to this, it does indeed work. You need a 2.1mm connector, and it connects to the DC-out near the base plate, not on the arm as it appears in the video. A superb power solution.
@@pineapplejam. Thanks for this! I was confused why I wasn't getting power. Danggg, this is such a clean setup having it come from that plate.
@@pineapplejam. Hey, do you have a link for the 2.1mm cable? Can only seem to find 2.5mm ones available. Thanks for your info!
@@kylelittlejohn9977 here you go:www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-BMPCC-4K-Camera-Power-Cable-Cord-Wire-DC-Socket-Interface-5-5x2-1mm/264288754312?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@@pineapplejam. any ideas why 2.1 works and 2.5 doesn't? Or is it a bit too technical to figure out without going really into it haha. And any idea of this setup damaging the gimbal or camera?
How you power up the camera with a DC Input port? Is the DC In not a DC In? Or is it also a DC Out? Because in the Manual it is a DC IN
and I used the gimbal also with an AC Adapter. Please can you answer me my question, how you power the camera up?
At certain angles/movements, my Moza Air 2 keeps dropping and I have to recenter it. Especially when I tilt all the way up. It just fails. I've calibrated it, adjusted the settings, everything. Do you know what it could be? At first I thought it was because it was too heavy with my Sigma 18-35mm mounted, but it does the same thing on lighter lenses.
Hello, don’t worry，please write an email to support@gudsen.com for professional guidance.
What's the cage around it
Can you please explain how you were able to mount the camera to the gimbal?
Use the supplied Manfrotto 5 series plate.
Why have to got the cord plugged into
the "DC in" port on the gimbal?
Just got mine, and it won’t turn on, any advice on what may be the issue? Thanks
Great video! Do you know if the MOZA would work with the Black Magic 6K?
Is working perfectly with the BMPCC 6K and also with the moza follow focus mounted with a Cinema lenses (heavy but not crazy long lens)
Thanks for the great video! 👍 1 Question- if I want to add a couple of filters in front, do I have to re-balance? Or the motor can handle that?
Hello, it depends on the weight of the filter，but it will be better to re-balance the Air 2.
@@GudsenMOZA Thanks !
I can't get the bmpcc4k with a smallrig full cage to rotate horizontally in inception mode? It works fine vertically but I don't want to be filming up at the ceiling or sky.
I think it has something to do with the cameras weight and the the motors strength. I've even tried the motor power in heavy mode and the camera still won't do a 360° roll. Just gives up.
Can anyone help?
I'm guessing you may need to balance the slider down at the base. I use a similar setup and it works just fine. So put it horizontal and go through the movements by hand and you'll see where it's off balance.
Just got mine in today (2nd hand) and I discovered another power connector in the bracket under the camera. So the entire power lead is balanced and you have less risk to get caught on something.
I do not understand that there is no need for an extra plate. In my setip the bmppc.4k is to wide to fit. So I use a Smallrig construction special for more room for the 4K.
how much time the battery last powering the poket 4k?
it seems he doesn't know
@Gudsen MOZA does the iFous work with BMPCC 4K? And what cables exactly would I need to buy to charge my BMPCC 4K to the gimbal and what batteries could I but for the crane to recharge it quickly?
Yes，the ifocus work well with it，kown more details，I recommend you write a email to the original author😄
@@GudsenMOZA Thanks! What cables exactly would I need to buy to charge my BMPCC 4K to the gimbal and what batteries could I but for the crane to recharge it quickly?
@@danielaviles7676 it's not crane! :) Maybe Gudsen can't answer you about powering camera from gimbal since some users reported 12v output burned after some usage. They won't answer because the gimbal user manual say 12v/2A, should be enough for the pocket 4k, but they are burned...
Would you please link me cables to power the bmpcc 4k from moza air 2?🙏🙏
Hey says it in the video at 1:06 - it's the cable pack from Blackmagic
Where can I find those battery cables for the gimbal and the bmpcc4k?
Helí Suárez www.amazon.com/Alvins-Cables-BMPCC4K-Blackmagic-Pocket/dp/B07KTCJ73K
@@lkptlst3256 pay attention to specifics of that cable. It says connector type is DC 5.5X2.5MM, Gudsen says the 12v output is DC 5.5X2.1MM
Link's for the power cables used?
Hey says it in the video at 1:06 - it's the cable pack from Blackmagic
Hello! Beautiful video. Would you be able to please list the link to the power cord to power up the BMCC4k. 😊 Thank you!
www.gudsen.com/download/MOZA-Air-2-Camera-Compatibility-List.pdf
you can find the answer here, from what I learned, the MOZA Aircross 2 can power the BMCC4k, not the MOZA Air2
new update from tech group: the latest version of MOZA air 2 can power the BMCC4k, but BMPCC4K is not recommended to carry any accessories
Awesome Ty! I bought the Moza Air 2 I’m enjoying it. I have a lot to learn, but in the video it looks like he said that he could power his bmpcc4k to the Moza air 2, but I’ll do some research. Thanks again! I appreciate it
Does the moza aircross 2 work well with the pocket 4k?
This may help you out, the end of page one:www.gudsen.com/upfile/admin/file/download/MOZA_AirCross2_Lens_Compatibility_List.pdf?v2
Arber, you have very simple, informative material. Question about plate mount ( on Camera, which comes in moza box to attach to their plate on moza air 2... ( Plate has one large stronger screw , : this screw fits only on bottom center of the small rig cage,applicable cage for bmpcc4k,,,,...Problem...On the gimbal the bmpcc4k must be mounted to side. Where this large strong screw of mounting plate does not fit.. So experimenting, take large screw out of plate . Replace it with the Mozaincluded in box. Other, but smaller plate screw; herein, plate to small rig cage, being “held” by unintended, and weaker secure method. Actually causing a shifting between plate and small rig cage at times. Also with use screws , by their nature , loosen over time.. which will cause unknown negative plate shifting behavior... SO , 1) either the small rig cage ( great cage) is not suited for this forced use of smaller thereby, less depth, less grip of screw area weaker. SO, 1) Are you familiar with this phenomenon. ? 2) does small rig or Manfrotto or other plate solution which utilizes the large center screw in bottom center of sr cage, to offer a three screw mount, a. Large screw in center , securing plate that can offset plate as needed, with the offset plate having the same template design
Of the Mosa plate,,,Except an angled off portion to secure with the larger Centered screw hole to place the larger screw? 2) if you are familiar with this phenomenon,;;;;Is there a hack plate small rig has that accommodates, a shift mount of the included Mosa plate. If so; would this now” two plate” To small rig , once attached To Mosa quick release plate on the gimbal. Increase in width. Be just more problematic?making it unusable? 3) The Mosa quick release plate, (sad to say. Seems potential a problem waiting to happen) Do you have knowledge of a more substantial replacement of Mosa Quick release plate. Thereby, a great gimbal as you so knowledgeably display. With this achieles heel . Blessings-You help world..More than you know...thank you...you might not see this....But I hope you feel the truth of your helping...thanks
Can I use the gimbal without any cage?? Just the bmpcc4k and the gimbal?
Yes of course you can
Thanks for this video. It landed me on the Moza for my 6k. A video I would LOVE to see, and you might be the one to make it, is about mounting options. I'm rigging up for fast moves from tripod to gimbal and it's terribly confusing. I'm using rails which requires a base that wont fit onto a gimbal and will the rails even work on the gimbal? A ton of videos show the interchangeability but I've yet to find one that really explains what is needed for the most flexible, lightest and (as possible) affordable setup. Hoping to be able to use the matte box on the gimbal and not swap out the rails but will they even fit onto the gimbal? So basically a 101 on building up the best way would be fantastic.
UPDATE: Got this gimbal and I hate it with a passion. There is no internal HDMI so you have to run a cable which throws the balance off 100% of the time. It is far too small for a BMPCC. The tiny LCD has a ~2mm icon that tells you what mode you're in but it's so small that it's basically useless. 1 of 3 axis lock which is great 1/3 of the time...they should obviously all lock. The battery life is horrid and they take a LONG time to charge...I had a set of mostly-charged batteries on the charger over night and 2 of them are STILL charging. When it goes off balance it shuts off and instead of locking up, it throws your camera into a free spin so it'll beat the crap out of your lens for you. On my first use it did this and it wrecked my brand new VND filter on my attached H4N. Granted, it's only 300 bucks with the ifocus motor so it's at least cheap. If you can't be good, at least be cheap.
The Air2 requires a very good understanding of balancing and works well with super lightweight HDMI leads. Try smallrig for flexible hdmi. Dropping into sleep mode is a sure sign that it isn't balanced.
@@3lendil I like it more now. I do have the Smallrig cable and it's light weight but not super flexible. Going to eventually get a Hollyland Mars. For the price, the Air 2 is pretty decent. I still can't get over the terrible menu system and the 10 or 20 areas where you have to guess what settings to use as the manual is useless.
Can you add a link to where we can buy the cables? I cannot be sure of what cables to buy...
Hi, you need a DC-DC cabel
Does Ifocus work with canon cameras.
Yes，sure
@@GudsenMOZA Can ifocus be used with moza aircross 2 ? when will aircross 2 will be released ?
Could you tell me the brand of your camera.
Gudsen MOZA Canon EOS R
I have the air 1 and it’s a no go for the bmpcc 4k.. it works but jitters a little. Looking forward to eventually getting the v 2
Very informative video. I like Gudsen Moza Gimbals and I hope you are successful in the world's largest business of Gimbals. (AMEEN)
Haha，thank you😉
Hello, great video, thank you! Would you be able to list the name of or link to the charger cable that charges the BMCC4k w Moza Air 2? What a life saver to charge from the Gimble especially for BMCC4k. Thanks again! - Jennifer
Hello,you can log in our official website to look for that.www.gudsen.com/
It is the SmallRig 2403 Offset Kit voor BMPCC 4K/6K. Thanks for the video. I bought him based on this UA-cam.video.
Wonder how long the camera last connected to the gimbal
It depends on the camera you use
@@GudsenMOZA the blackmagic pocket 4k
You can ask the original creator
@@GudsenMOZA gotcha thanks for the reply. Got the mini and waiting for the stormtrooper to drop. ✌🏽
@@HOWIMRIDIN Haha，nice，bro😉
What are your thoughts on the moza aircross 2?
Do you have a link to purchase the cable you're using to power the BMPCC4K with the Moza Air 2? That would be much appreciated.
Here's the link for your reference: www.amazon.com/Angled-Blackmagic-Pocket-Cinema-Camera/dp/B07M5DXBVT/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=DC+5.5+power+cable+for+BMPCC+4K&qid=1557801612&s=gateway&sr=8-4.
@@GudsenMOZA Just wondering how can I tell if the Air 2 I have has 16.8 or 12 V? Thanks
Why are you powering the camera from the DC out on the handle. How come you aren't powering it from the DC out directly on the camera plate of the gimbal. There is a DC out at the base of the plate, you wouldn't need your extension and the cable wouldn't be hanging out like that.
Because the DC at the base is 7.4v and the other one is 12v. You need minimum 10v power supply to power the P4/6K via the DC input.
@@kimkrohnberle My base as 16v out and 7.4v out.
@@Team.Louish Apparently there are two different V output versions of the Moza Air 2. One is 12 and the other is 16.8v. But my first comment applies for both versions.
@@kimkrohnberle As far as I know, the DC out on the handle where you have it plugged in is for powering the gimbal externally. Not for powering your camera. The DC is an INPUT on the handle. There are two DC outputs on the baseplate. 7.4v on the back (towards your screen) and the DC out on the front of the baseplate (towards your lens) is either 12v or 16v depending on which version you have. I don't even know what would happen if you plug the Blackmagic into the handle, since they are both inputs.
Great video. Thanks! Could you tell something more about the battery life of the gimbal when the camera is plugged in?
Haha, good question，it depends on the camera you use, but you kown，we can't test all the camera😂.
About 2h with the pocket 4k. Much more with other cameras
I'm trying to balance my bmpcc 4k (follow focus, a tilta cage, 5T SSD, and canon 24-105mm II) and I'm having a lot of trouble. The camera is leaning towards the lens. I saw some other people using the sigma 18-35--it has similar dimensions to the canon 24-105--and it is working for them. Please help!!!
Same here bro.. have you sorted out yourself yet?
@@SkyeMauMau I am very disappointed with this gimbal. I am still having issues. Now it is leaning to one side and I have to keep centering it with the app.
0 1 ua-cam.com/video/V777soJIuRU/v-deo.html
@@SkyeMauMau Thanks!
0 1 no worries my friend. I wish you all the best!
How long does the gimbal last when you have it plugged into the BMPCC?
It based on your setup.
I jus got the moza n seems that i cant get my cam on it...
Hello, may I know what's your camera？
Black magic pocket cinema
Same 1 you have
Can I mount my camera vertically in this gimbal?
Gudsen MOZA where can I find infos about vertical shot mode?
Sorry，Air 2 don't support vertical shot mode，the new Aircross 2 support it，kown more about Aircross 2 ：www.gudsen.com/moza-aircross-2
Thanks for this Review! Did you tried the Moza Air 2 with the BMPCC 4K (with cage) and the Sigma 18-35? Or can you recommend one gimbal that is strong enough for the BMPCC 4K, Cage, Sigma 18-35, Ex Battery & Monitor?
Hello, the max payload of MOZA Air
2 is 4.2kg.
@@GudsenMOZA may I use Nano Nucleus on Moza air 2?
That setup works just fine. You won't need an offset plate. The monitor will be useless as there is a mind boggling lack of internal HDMI and an actual cable will throw the gimbal off balance which will turn it off and cause the camera to rotate and smack against the gimbal. Why the gimbal doesn't just lock when it shuts itself off is beyond me.
@@HikingWithCooper Got the DJI RS2 now but thanks for your reply!
@@althewicked Good choice. I made the bad choice. This thing is useless.
When will the Air x be released MOZA?
Not sure yet
Alguien puede ayudarme el moza air 2 se ha puesto en idioma chino y me gustaría ponerlo en español o inglés
i am very much interested to buy this gimbal and i live in india.do u ship to india..???
Yes，of course 😉
the battery of the camera lasts 35 to 40 minutes, connected to the gimbal, how long does it last?
It depends on the camera you use
About 2h with the pocket 4k. Much more with other cameras
@@r-mediaproduzionivideo2581 Hi,thank you😄
Just bought a Moza air 2. But on the power out it says 16.8V and not as shown in the video 12V
Will this destroy my pocket 4K?
And also the lower Port you are using in this video: the manual tells me it’s an DC-Input!?!?! What is going on?
I repeat:
Top Port: the Little flexible plastic cap says 16.8V (next to Multi CAN) (i can show pictures of it)
Lower port is (that’s what the manual says a dc input port.
It’s so strange and I don’t wanna Break my camera.
And another thing: I bought the gimbal with a back bag and follow focus and extra batteries. The gave me a tracking number which doesn’t show me where the shipment is and I received from a different logistic company the gimbal but without the accessories. Just the plain gimbal. No extra batteries, no back bag, no follow focus. Still hopping to receive the missing parts and get some answers about the DC-Ports.
Thanks
(I wrote the support already an email, no reply for two days now)
I still believe this could be a great gimbal but this is a big downer at the moment
You can't power the camera from INPUT! You can only charge the gimbal.
Also, take a look at 2:54, the battery icon is empty, maybe showing the %. When charging the pocket shows white icon with AC symbols. The guy is fooling himself... :D
Apparently the 12V has been replaced with a 16.8V out on newer models to better handle powering the Pocket 4k. I haven't seen Moza confirming this however.
The BM will accept a voltage range. This is an old post but currently the Air 2 does power the BM cameras. There is no internal HDMI though (face palm) so good luck seeing what you're shooting.
Can anyone help me? I just bought an air 2s and new out of the box is dead. I tried charging it for 2 days. it comes on for a half a second and goes off plugged in. unplugged it don't come on at all. I paid extra to have it delivered in 3 days and would hate to have to send it back and wait God knows how long to get a working one. Is there any way to get the bad batteries out so I can replace them with good batteries? will Moza send me new batteries? I could not find any online for the air 2s. there are pages of batteries for the air 2 that don't do me any good as a air 2s owner:(
Would you please contact us via Email: support@gudsen.com
and send necessary information including purchase receipt and video or picture demonstrating the detailed problem?
JUST A WARNING TO YOU ALL: This gimbal does not work with the BMPCC4K in inception mode (horizontally).
Which is basically useless if you need it for that. The 4K is too heavy for the gimbals motors with a cage or without with an offset plate.
I'm using this with the 6k, a cage and a Sigma 18-35. Not using the offset plate as the zoom lens forces the camera backwards in the mount. Inception works just fine. The only problem is you can't see what you're shooting because for some reason there is internal power but no internal HDMI. WHY???
I can't even get it to fit with the smallrig full cage
The Moza Air 2 comes with two identical plates, that have two screws with different sizes.
Because I have the same problem, the solution is offset the camera to the right. In order to achieve this:
- Using the two plates, slide the screw to the hole and unscrew it;
- Use the same invert process to 'assemble' one plate with the two smaller screws;
- Now, attach the plate to the most right side of the Cage (BMCP4K Battery side). Done!!
The only inconvenient is that you 'lose' the center of the Camera. Not a problem to balance the Gimbal but the lens support became useless.
I hope help I you, this is an amazing piece of gear.
@@pedroarruda7878 Thanks so much Pedro, I finally figured that out ha ha I appreciate the reply :)
@@buknar456 Happy for help you, I break my mind to solve this! ;-)
Regards and thanks for your reply.
I purchased this gimbal and notice he never talked about controlling the camera you need a third arm, because 2 of them control the gimble, bmp4k is void of auto functions
It does have auto focus but it is really not worth using.its the 2nd button next to the screen on the top right with the cross.
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How did you get the BMPCC to fit onto the gimbal. I just bought this gimbal, I've easily watched 5 youtube video's, everyone LOVES this gimbal, I can not figure out how anyone is mounting a BMPCC 4k/6k camera on this awful piece of equipment. I should've stuck with a Zhiyun, their set up is a walk in the park when compared to Moza 👎👎
Hi there, this quick released plate will help you to mount your camera on MOZA Air 2: store.gudsen.com/collections/moza-air-2-accessories/products/air-2-quick-released-plate
@@GudsenMOZA Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. However, the Moza Air 2 comes with 2 of these QR plates. I have since realised the issue, the BMPCC can not be mounted in the centre of this gimbal, it has to be mounted off to the right, because the camera is so wide. Having bought this gimbal based off many UA-cam reviews, I have NO clue why no one is mentioning one of the first issues of using this gimbal with a BMPCC, it does not fit on to the gimbal in a central position! I am now stuck with this gimbal until I can make money from using it. What an ironic. Here's my review of the Moza Air 2 if you can actually get beyond the mental torture of mounting a BMPCC on to it, and if you still have any interest in the gimbal, I'm sure its half decent. I don't know yet, as I've lost all interest in the less-than-adequate design when used with a BMPCC. All BMPCC owners should do themselves a favour and buy a different gimbal.