Kael'thas decided not to pursue his feelings because when Jaina started studying under Antonidas, she was like 16 and he was a couple hundred years old already.
Nobbel, I swear the two of us are so likeminded. Whenever I think of a potential future plot for WoW, you post a lore video about it shortly after. Bravo my good man. Keep up the excellent work
Vereesa Windrunner... one of the many reasons we want playable high elves on the Alliance. At least our wish was halfway granted in Shadowlands, with blood elf skin- tones for void elves. Hopefully the next expansion will give them natural hair colors, less emo hairstyles, and paladins to go along with the much- speculated Light- theme.
It absolutely disgusts me, that anyone who dares to make a suggestion for playable High Elves is labeled as "entitled" or "deranged". While the Blood Elves make up 90% of the Horde population, and both the males and the females already have gorgeous customization options. Blood Elf players are expecting to have both normal blood elf options and undead elf options. Yet, these same exact people cry and get triggered whenever someone asks if Void Elves can have a couple or few nice hairstyles that could work for a Void Elf or a High Elf. (The males especially could use one long, attractive hairstyle.) The hypocrisy and toxicity of these Blood Elf players almost makes me wish that Blizzard would give the Void Elves nice High Elven hair just to spite all the salty Blood Elf players.
@@eldritchdragon5755 Wishful thinking mate Blizzard was already dumb enough to make the (blood) elves join the horde you think they're going to give some made up meme race like void elves any kind of love? lmao
@@GrugBonkers Not really, most of them weren't exposed to Garithos, and I'd argue that the common Elf would have horrible memories regarding Orcs and Trolls, it's already clear that a lot of them found this vile and joined up with Vereesa and the Silver Covenant, which then joined up with the Alliance. And it's likely one Human leading over a specific group of Kael'thas' finest wouldn'r be all that common for most of the Blood & High Elves. But you know what they do have? Years of friendship with Humans prior to the actions of one man
High noble humans, champions of their respective factions, held the Highest ranking command within their respective ranks. Turalyon and Ronin isnt just "any" men while they themselves held honorable positions in their own right Alleria and Varessa. Then theres sylvannas.... though she was impressive when she was the Ranger General of Silvermoon. Her taste in men....
@@jaerys8823 I think Sylvanas picked the best humie of them. Admit it, Nathanos is fun times. I miss that grouch. Redhead Rhonin was cute too, it’s only Turalyon that’s kind of boring IMHO.
*when you need to reach the minimum word count on your essay:* "in essence, alexstrasza, by this time, had been enslaved by the orcs with the use of the dragon soul, which they used to enslave her, to force the red dragonflight to aid the orcs."
Not sure if i'd call a dragon who constantly brings a man and his wife into constant danger a friend per say. But i guess surviving near life and death experiences might as well make friends.
@Hawkknight97 Funny how the oath meant in their eyes that humans were supposed to help them but never the other way around. The ones who still think like are now the Blood Elves and the ones who didn't are the High Elves of the Alliance. Humans called for their helped twice, both times they were ignored. "Arthas here came back... Kinda killing all of us and turning us into zombies! SEND HELP! Accept our refugees!" Garithos became so awefull of a person because the Quel'thalas watched his town get burned and everybody killed. "They just stood on their gate, not sending help or engaging the Horde" something in this line. We can say one thing the casualties would have been far less worse if they simply answered the call for help at the very least.
@@pauloh.alchaar Yep, but atleast they admitted they were in the wrong. The now blood elves still refuse to acknowledge that if they simply headed the warnings human were telling them their forest wouldn't be burned by the orcs or 90% of the remaining population getting killed and raised into undead by Arthas the DK. Gilneas is in ruins because they isolated themselves and thus the 7th Legion arrived too late (they were contacted by the night elves to assist Gilneas). Leaving Gilneas a battlefield, Quel'thalas well... Oof. Atleast there isn't a war in their areas but it's mostly decimated. Genn is the king so loyal to his own people he forgot about the outside world and even created a civil war with his attitude.
They would be dead. Arthas has twice the health the three sisters combined and he can nuke either of them and turn them against each other. The PTSD would alone kill the other two.
I'll never understand where Nobbel gets all his B-roll footage for his videos from. Does he just have a huge folder on his computer of WoW media he's collected over the years? Not to mention the machinima and in-game recordings... pretty impressive!
I've got most cutscenes stored on an external drive. Sometimes I'll grab footage from an older video, but most of the time I like to get a clean one ingame if it's readily available
Depends what one would call normal. I bet there would be some who would not say that in regards to her love to a human. But: We don't know what will happen to her in the future right? Sylvanas was changed into a Banshee quite some time ago. But Alleria was rather normal not so long ago. Who knows... it's not like Vereesa still has a husband that would stop her from doing something if she felt like she needed to do it (whatever it would be)
All three were pretty impressive, Alleria lead her rangers in the 3rd War, Vareesa leading the silver convenant both married honorable and well reputable men, leaders of their respective factions.. then theres.... Undead Sylvannas.
@@Rakshiir That just proves that Vereesa is still the most sane of the bunch. She lost just as much as her sisters but kept her cool. Even when confronted with opportunities to gain power she refused. She doesn’t need Ronin to make wise decisions at all. Whereas Sylvanas pretty much takes every deal she can get and Alleria uses the void.
Clearly, the Windrunner sisters all share one thing in common. They have the hots for humans 11:22 One of only three examples (that I know of). With the only other example (that I know of) being Arator, their cousin.
And Gul'dan would've never started the Third Invasion. Literally every expansion after Mists is entirely Vereesa's fault. I feel like what happened is a good plot was written in the Trial, but Blizzard were halfway through making WOD and realised they almost negated their expansion so they changed the ending.
@@donjezza10 how the fuck is it Vareesas fault, it always has been fuckin incopetent Horde's fault. Especially Thrall who went out like a soy boy after Cataclysm.
Well, from what I remember, he didn't say difficult but rare, considering the elves' longer lifespan, it is absolutely normal. If the elves could be ten times older than the humans, then if we count that the average age for prengnancy is 30 for humans, for elves it could be more of a 300.
@@manolisrentinas774 In most Fantasy (Forgotten realms for example which is like THE Template for elves) Elves don't get pregnant to offten due to their lifespan like OP said. If you have them breed like humans while having lifespans up to a thousand years - it would result in overpopulation galore. And the comic might have said something about it when she was pregnant with the twins.
Sigh damn shame such a great character is so sidelined Its clear to me that blizzard doesnt know what to do with knaacks characters They love the books he writes- so many zones are basically stealth retellings of their plots for god sake (Twilight Highlands is Day of the Dragon, Mount Hyjal is War of the Ancients, val'sharrah is stormrage etc) But they NEVER use his characters Rhonin did fuck all until he was killed off, krasus did fuck all til he was killed off, falstad has done next to fuck all, and vereesa...well shes gotten at least Some attention
in my opinion, she's the most typical and she's the same as sylvanas in my opinion in the way where the writers try to handwave their obvious questionable and sometimes evil deeds while justifying them with how "sad" they are. The windrunners are one of the worst from the story in my opinion. Right next to the Wrynns mainly Anduin.
Vareesa already existed before the book. Authors do not have total control over the books they write, everything in the books comes from Blizzard or must be approved by them. If it was a self insert or a character he created, they would have killed her like all other of Knaak's characters.
Windrunners dedicated their bloodline to loving humans
@Hawkknight97 not what he ment but every dibling baning one so its like he said its like irs a thing in there bloodline
All 3 sisters ended up loving a human or had an affair with them
@@Monster3Games this is true. But it is a lot of high elves. Even Elisande said most high elves were dedicated to messing around with other races.
@@iceman3317 Where she said that?
Out of all the known female elves with romances, the partner is a human every time. Maybe human males are more gifted in the schlong department.
Finally a video on the most underrated winderunner sister.
The windrunner sister always seem to have a thing for interesting and unique humans.
@Hawkknight97 lol kael'thas
Kael'thas decided not to pursue his feelings because when Jaina started studying under Antonidas, she was like 16 and he was a couple hundred years old already.
Vereesa Windrunner: He took my Ronin.
Zuko: That's rough buddy.
A fellow avatar fan I see.
Awesome! Vereesa needs some love
Nobbel, I swear the two of us are so likeminded. Whenever I think of a potential future plot for WoW, you post a lore video about it shortly after. Bravo my good man. Keep up the excellent work
Nobbel is probably the only reason I keep playing this game. Makes it sound so cooool
Love the content! Been watching for since 5.3! Always love watching your content!
The Windrunner sisters falling for that good ol' human potential.
Vereesa Windrunner... one of the many reasons we want playable high elves on the Alliance. At least our wish was halfway granted in Shadowlands, with blood elf skin- tones for void elves. Hopefully the next expansion will give them natural hair colors, less emo hairstyles, and paladins to go along with the much- speculated Light- theme.
It absolutely disgusts me, that anyone who dares to make a suggestion for playable High Elves is labeled as "entitled" or "deranged". While the Blood Elves make up 90% of the Horde population, and both the males and the females already have gorgeous customization options. Blood Elf players are expecting to have both normal blood elf options and undead elf options. Yet, these same exact people cry and get triggered whenever someone asks if Void Elves can have a couple or few nice hairstyles that could work for a Void Elf or a High Elf. (The males especially could use one long, attractive hairstyle.) The hypocrisy and toxicity of these Blood Elf players almost makes me wish that Blizzard would give the Void Elves nice High Elven hair just to spite all the salty Blood Elf players.
@@eldritchdragon5755 Wishful thinking mate
Blizzard was already dumb enough to make the (blood) elves join the horde you think they're going to give some made up meme race like void elves any kind of love? lmao
@@IVPixel Blood elves joining the Horde isn't stupid, at best they'd be neutral but them rejoining the alliance post Garithos is absurd.
@@GrugBonkers Not really, most of them weren't exposed to Garithos, and I'd argue that the common Elf would have horrible memories regarding Orcs and Trolls, it's already clear that a lot of them found this vile and joined up with Vereesa and the Silver Covenant, which then joined up with the Alliance. And it's likely one Human leading over a specific group of Kael'thas' finest wouldn'r be all that common for most of the Blood & High Elves. But you know what they do have? Years of friendship with Humans prior to the actions of one man
Vereesa was the only person to make Sylvanas cry.
@Hawkknight97 that ain't true Sylvanas actually cared for her sisters.
@Hawkknight97 sylvanus was gonna assassinate her sisters. But she couldn’t go through with it.
@Hawkknight97 Undead Sylvannas yes, not Alive Sylvannas
@Hawkknight97 Sylvanas cannot feel any happiness or positive thoughts, but that doesn't mean she can't be sad
You obviously never found the necklace in the ghostlands. Sylvanas loves her sisters
If Lirath was still alive, he would also take a human man, such is the true legacy of the Windrunners
Lmao so true! At least it wouldn’t conflict with the already established lore.
Anduin would be the perfect match.
@@joco8290 too young for him
In fitness did you see the Warcraft movie? It's called marrying up.
The Windrunners are like the Kardashians of Azeroth in that they all have the same taste in men
LOOOOOLLL I cracked at this.
High noble humans, champions of their respective factions, held the Highest ranking command within their respective ranks. Turalyon and Ronin isnt just "any" men while they themselves held honorable positions in their own right Alleria and Varessa.
Then theres sylvannas.... though she was impressive when she was the Ranger General of Silvermoon. Her taste in men....
@@jaerys8823 I think Sylvanas picked the best humie of them. Admit it, Nathanos is fun times. I miss that grouch. Redhead Rhonin was cute too, it’s only Turalyon that’s kind of boring IMHO.
@@JaneLame
Rhonin was cool.
Although him shouting “CITIZENS OF DALARAN” every day probably got pretty annoying after a while.
Are there any Windrunner sisters left? Because I'm human and available. Lol
susan is running around somewhere
@Hawkknight97 I heard Yrel's into all that light BDSM and shit, i am a willing participant.
@@Nobbel87 i think only preacher knows her exact location.
Nice catch in the Illidan quest in Blackrook Hold. I never noticed Krasus up there with Rhonin on his back.
*when you need to reach the minimum word count on your essay:*
"in essence, alexstrasza, by this time, had been enslaved by the orcs with the use of the dragon soul, which they used to enslave her, to force the red dragonflight to aid the orcs."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
i had hoped they'd keep her story arc active after legion. then again look at what's happened with Khadgar.
Khad who?
Vereesa is my fav of the 3.....yet the only one without her own dedicated model. Not fair
And yet Calia got one. So unfair
Not sure if i'd call a dragon who constantly brings a man and his wife into constant danger a friend per say. But i guess surviving near life and death experiences might as well make friends.
19:54. Maybe they're talking about the classic high elf models, which is, technically speaking, a mix of Human and Night Elf lol
Imagine if the Windrunner Sisters encountered Arthas all at once?
then there will be no bitch king.
@Hawkknight97 Funny how the oath meant in their eyes that humans were supposed to help them but never the other way around. The ones who still think like are now the Blood Elves and the ones who didn't are the High Elves of the Alliance. Humans called for their helped twice, both times they were ignored. "Arthas here came back... Kinda killing all of us and turning us into zombies! SEND HELP! Accept our refugees!" Garithos became so awefull of a person because the Quel'thalas watched his town get burned and everybody killed. "They just stood on their gate, not sending help or engaging the Horde" something in this line. We can say one thing the casualties would have been far less worse if they simply answered the call for help at the very least.
@@Finish303 Same goes to Gilneas.
@@pauloh.alchaar Yep, but atleast they admitted they were in the wrong. The now blood elves still refuse to acknowledge that if they simply headed the warnings human were telling them their forest wouldn't be burned by the orcs or 90% of the remaining population getting killed and raised into undead by Arthas the DK. Gilneas is in ruins because they isolated themselves and thus the 7th Legion arrived too late (they were contacted by the night elves to assist Gilneas). Leaving Gilneas a battlefield, Quel'thalas well... Oof. Atleast there isn't a war in their areas but it's mostly decimated.
Genn is the king so loyal to his own people he forgot about the outside world and even created a civil war with his attitude.
They would be dead.
Arthas has twice the health the three sisters combined and he can nuke either of them and turn them against each other. The PTSD would alone kill the other two.
Finally, thank u Nobbel 💫⭐️💛
Thank you for this!
I'll never understand where Nobbel gets all his B-roll footage for his videos from. Does he just have a huge folder on his computer of WoW media he's collected over the years? Not to mention the machinima and in-game recordings... pretty impressive!
I've got most cutscenes stored on an external drive. Sometimes I'll grab footage from an older video, but most of the time I like to get a clean one ingame if it's readily available
The only normal Windrunner.
Depends what one would call normal. I bet there would be some who would not say that in regards to her love to a human.
But: We don't know what will happen to her in the future right? Sylvanas was changed into a Banshee quite some time ago. But Alleria was rather normal not so long ago. Who knows... it's not like Vereesa still has a husband that would stop her from doing something if she felt like she needed to do it (whatever it would be)
All three were pretty impressive, Alleria lead her rangers in the 3rd War, Vareesa leading the silver convenant both married honorable and well reputable men, leaders of their respective factions.. then theres.... Undead Sylvannas.
@@Rakshiir That just proves that Vereesa is still the most sane of the bunch. She lost just as much as her sisters but kept her cool. Even when confronted with opportunities to gain power she refused. She doesn’t need Ronin to make wise decisions at all.
Whereas Sylvanas pretty much takes every deal she can get and Alleria uses the void.
Top video! Bedankt!
Thank you, nobble I love this video.
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"the crazy guy" rhonin
"I want to know what an unfortunate combination looks like."
Just keep hitting random on the CC in Oblivion.
2:30 and 2:12 where do these scenes of Sylvanas come from ?
Clearly, the Windrunner sisters all share one thing in common.
They have the hots for humans
11:22
One of only three examples (that I know of).
With the only other example (that I know of) being Arator, their cousin.
Loved this
More pls
Where was Vereesa when Arthas attack Quel'Thalas?
with Rhonin. That's where she has always been until she was relevant to the story again and i say relevant loosely lol
She was pregnant with her sons, Giramar and Galadin. It's mentioned at the beginning of the War of The Ancients Trilogy.
not yet my queen
If Vereesa hadn't told Anduin about the poisoned food, Garrosh would've been killed a lot sooner and we wouldn't have gotten Warlords of Draenor.
And Gul'dan would've never started the Third Invasion. Literally every expansion after Mists is entirely Vereesa's fault.
I feel like what happened is a good plot was written in the Trial, but Blizzard were halfway through making WOD and realised they almost negated their expansion so they changed the ending.
@@donjezza10 let's be honest, the third invasion was gonna happen one way or another.
@@donjezza10 how the fuck is it Vareesas fault, it always has been fuckin incopetent Horde's fault. Especially Thrall who went out like a soy boy after Cataclysm.
Woulda been nice to mention the legendary weapon Thor'idal The Stars Fury in TBC, I don't know why its associated with Vareesa and why its so powerful
You mean the connection from Hearthstone?
@@Nobbel87 Yeah, maybe discuss a bit of the fan theories at least would be interesting
Green eyes in thumbnail???
Love u nobbel
Any plans for the story about the Twilights?
which twilights? Dragons or cult?
@@Nobbel87 The cult.
@@terribleatgames-rippedoff Might be interesting but also cover a fair bit of it during story of chogall: ua-cam.com/video/Wbf2wFqZKtM/v-deo.html
Trophy Elves everywhere.
Nobbel who is lireesa Windrunner?
Why is it difficult for elves to get pregnant ? First time i heard that
Well, from what I remember, he didn't say difficult but rare, considering the elves' longer lifespan, it is absolutely normal. If the elves could be ten times older than the humans, then if we count that the average age for prengnancy is 30 for humans, for elves it could be more of a 300.
@@nerassunspear2659 well i know about the lifespans but that isnt explaining lorewise why it is rare
@@manolisrentinas774 In most Fantasy (Forgotten realms for example which is like THE Template for elves) Elves don't get pregnant to offten due to their lifespan like OP said. If you have them breed like humans while having lifespans up to a thousand years - it would result in overpopulation galore.
And the comic might have said something about it when she was pregnant with the twins.
@@Kairos_Akuma so maybe she got pregnant so early cause she bred with a human ?
Asbaldo will arrive soon.
Vereesa @ 05:15 looks so irritated lmao -_-
Can Undead still breed with other races?
nah undead cant reproduce
Sigh damn shame such a great character is so sidelined
Its clear to me that blizzard doesnt know what to do with knaacks characters
They love the books he writes- so many zones are basically stealth retellings of their plots for god sake (Twilight Highlands is Day of the Dragon, Mount Hyjal is War of the Ancients, val'sharrah is stormrage etc)
But they NEVER use his characters
Rhonin did fuck all until he was killed off, krasus did fuck all til he was killed off, falstad has done next to fuck all, and vereesa...well shes gotten at least Some attention
Why he gotta be a crazy person cause he screams out in public! Bunch of scared sheeple! 😂
the art from that one comic... makes the windrunner sisters look +125lbs heavier than they should be. what was blizzard thinking hiring that artists?
I think they look beautiful in that comics
@@JaneLame your name is my response to your response.
Vereesa: the worst windrunner sister
Led the pogrom in Dalaran, betrayed Sylvanas, lied to Alleria.
friendly reminder that none of all these would have happened if Vereesa just succeeded on poisoning Garrosh
Never trust an elf.
The worst Windrunner in my opinion, I even prefer Lirath over her.
in my opinion, she's the most typical and she's the same as sylvanas in my opinion in the way where the writers try to handwave their obvious questionable and sometimes evil deeds while justifying them with how "sad" they are. The windrunners are one of the worst from the story in my opinion. Right next to the Wrynns mainly Anduin.
Yes cross breeding and intercourse !
first
Sylvannas will forever be my bae
AKA the boring Windrunner sister.
So she is just a random NPC. And NO I don't care that she is related to slyvanus.
The story of Vareesa: Richard Knaack was a terrible writer and wanted a hot gf for his self-insert character, so whoopsie, third windrunner.
Vareesa already existed before the book. Authors do not have total control over the books they write, everything in the books comes from Blizzard or must be approved by them. If it was a self insert or a character he created, they would have killed her like all other of Knaak's characters.