Afro-Latinx Experts Talk About Racism Within Our Community
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- We sat down with 4 professors for a deep discussion on racism within the Latino community. These conversations are important, we encourage you to continue having them with your friends and families.
Special thanks to our professors:
Dr. Miguelina Rodriguez & Dr. Griselda Rodriguez-Solomon - / brujasofbrooklyn
Daniel Morales-Armstrong - / insertcleverhandle
Hilda Lloréns - / shecoanarchist
Let's get educated! Here are some books recommended by our professors:
Pedagogy of the Oppressed - bzfd.it/2DaNZ8M
The Afro-Latin@ Reader: History and Culture in the United States - bzfd.it/33sSkia
Afro-Latin America - bzfd.it/2DBdTC8
Dispossessed Lives: Enslaved Women, Violence, and the Archive - bzfd.it/2DBjAA0
Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent - bzfd.it/2XucWTj
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The most racist people I’ve came across are my own.
Thank European colonization for that.
Abandoned Hope exactamente
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@@lo5182 They aren't demonizing people. They're demonizing colonialism dude. We're talking about colonialism and the systems it has spawned, not European people. There is however a needed discussion on how those of white European decent still benefit from those systems.
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Too necessary. Especially just that first lovely lady’s line - “If they say they don’t see color, run, because it means they don’t see you.”
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I like that line
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They think it sounds righteous, but it's nothing but pure, unadulterated B.S. Just understand that black people have no friends in this world, and because of that we must be proud of who we are. I absolutely love the skin I'm in, and no one can make me feel inferior without my permission. It takes a strong people to survive this crap.
hispanics say the same shit
Our community has been in severe need of this conversation
JT okay? Let’s not take away from the point here
JT bro jt stop going on every encouraging comment and shitting on it
@@diadelysmena5616 Every community needs to have this discussion. Im glad you mentioned that. The only thing you can do as an individual is keep peace around you miss lady. Everybody ain't gonna want world peace but the ones who do stay in contact with them, keep ya energy balanced as best you can in this world of hatred and fuckery. Stay positive, stay productive, stay encouraged 💪💪💪💯
My granddaughter is Afro-Latina...I am going to teach her how to love and embrace her beautiful racial makeup... we ( African and Latino )got rich history and culture.
ruben champollion that good!!!! My dad taught me Spanish... I am going to teach my granddaughter Spanish too
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It seems like Ruben thought someone was going to be mad about that 🤣 Teach them their roots and also teach them to help dismantle white supremacy which they will benefit from. Teach them not to be racist against marginalized Black/Brown people and other nonBlack POC. Yay! #Celebrate
@ruben champollion 🤣 tell them about the 30% NA you're omitting.
If you afro latinos knows what white people did to them,they will proud of white blood
So happy that AfroLatinidad is finally becoming more recognized both nationally and individually.
Yesss
JT because I’m Afro Latina?
Aaamen!!!! ThanQ Jesus!!!😇💕💓💕🌹
@Mick Dees I don't know what the hell she was ranting about but I agree with you tho... 💯😁
There is no Afro Latinidad. Afro means Black and Latinidad refers to Roman Latin civilization. All of you have no idea of what Latin is and where it comes from. NO, it's no about your skin color. Stop the lies. Latin only refers to Romance languages and Roman Latin Culture. Stop the lies. All of you who keep mention the term Latin are in fact denigrating the great heritage of the Romans and the Italians. You are Blacks and Latin Americans. That's it. No Latin, No Latino. No Latina, No Hispanic and No Latinx.
As an afro-latino growing up with lighter siblings that had fair skin and lighter eyes they were always praised and considered so beautiful 🤦🏻♂️😫and I never understood why 🤷🏻♂️now that I'm older I said f**k that I love my curly kinky hair,full lips,button nose and brown skin!!!✊🏼
And now everyone wants all that , but guess what, they have to pay for it..😁
@@DDot-im3jr haha funny😅🤣but so true 💯
Being light skin is over rate . Once they hit 30 years old , they start to look like 40 years old because of skin damage from the sun.
Godzilla Megatron no don’t do that don’t diminish white people or lighter people I stand for blacks and that’s amazing how you can look at the bright side @danyiel says
@@godzillamegatron3590 people have to get away from that mind set that White Skin is superior..there is beauty in all people and there is ugliness in some and some of it could be based on personality..no one is better because of a Skin Tone..
These conversations are so needed. I'm a dark-skinned, American-born child of Panamanian immigrants, and I related to so much of what was said. From my own childhood, I vividly remember the backhanded compliments from well-meaning relatives that just made me feel confused and slightly insulted. The growing recognition and appreciation of AfroLatinidad is beautiful to see. Please do more of these videos!
Completely understand what you’re saying...from a dark-skinned, American-born child of Honduran immigrants 🤍
Aye I'm of Panamanian descent as well girl!! 🇵🇦💃🏽I feel you on the whole colorism thing in the Afro Latinx community it hurts a lot.
@C. L. Because they weren't. My parents and grandparents were born in Panama. My great grandparents on my mom's side were Bajan, but I don't have any Jamaican roots.
@C. L. why do you pretend to be ignorant? My parents and their parents are from Panama. My abuelitas father was from Costa Rica....so whoever told you that all black Panamanians were from Jamaica were wrong. Even if one had family from JA...they were still BORN and RAISED in PANAMA...they are not Jamaican. Different cultures.
Yes! So well stated Panamá Gold. I am also a dark-skinned, American-born child of Panamanian immigrants. However, my mother was always very instrumental in making sure that I knew I was beautiful as I am. Before the "natural hair" movement became popular, my mom was the first woman I saw wearing a short natural and I thought that she was the most beautiful in this state. In the 80s, she also worked for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, where our blackness was affirmed and we learned details about Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Medgar Evers, and many other prominent African Americans. In the house, Blackness/Afro Latinidad was affirmed. I'm sorry about the backhanded compliments that you received. People can be so ignorant!!!
Being able to take pride in your african ancestry is a beautiful thing
Rosario, as a half southern african. my ultimate dream is to have Indigenous, latinos and other brown people IN the african continent for a week or two , around good food and cultural exchanges. Imma make this happen in my lifetime.it'd be fun to see all of you wandering about in the african cities tasting local customs.
@@PHlophe I believe your dream will come true, that sounds like a lot of fun too 👍🏽
I am dominican and proud of my blackness.
you still benefit from white privilege ua-cam.com/video/bWt2vy9DHsc/v-deo.html
@@blackinews9892 like whatever country in Latin America, unfortunately.
I'm African American but I'm so proud to see so many Caribbeans from the African diaspora address this! Thank you. Racism and colorism is so sadly real
RP I'm caribbean we know we black, proud of it, brag about it.you are referring to dominicans, Cubans, PR cans denying their dna is filled with black.slaves were dropped of in all those countries.not caribbean we love Black.
@@marionrodriguez9035 PR, DR and Cuba ARE also Caribbean, we are LITERALLY the largest Antilles islands in the Caribbean 🤦🏻♀️
Says one who supports LatinX. My brown culture is different from your brown culture.
Most black men are the most colorist people you'll ever meet.
Flashback to when I had to prove to a relative that communities of Afro-Mexicans exist in Mexico.
@@rogerroger2986 yes to northern Mexico like by the border. However, they really didn't know that in places like Oaxaca, for example, there are communities. Since they had never met Afro-Mexicans when they lived in Meixco, they didn't know they existed.
The Afro Community in Mexico is tiny compared to Caribbean Latinos. Most Mexicans are European and Native American. Native Americans are the backbone of Latin America.
@@telltruth7027 Over 1.4 Million AfroMexicans is not "tiny" The Mexican government has white washed our true Mexican history.
@@localgems thank you. I'm Mexican American. My family has afromexican roots. It's very apparent in our looks. No one dares to say we have African ancestry in our lineage. According to my parents and grandparents we are white. I say we are not and i will never believe that lie.
@@localgems Correct! 2020 is the first year the Mexican government has even bothered to count the Afro-Mexican population on its census. Censuses drive so much of government planning that if a government doesn't count your group on a cenus the concerns and issues of that group effectively become invisible from a government planning point of view.
"our oppression and domination happens in the mind more than anything else". THIS! We need to understand how important our own perception of ourself is and just as much as restructuring the system. I'm not Latina but I always watch PeroLike because I'm Jamaican and we have a lot of cultural similarities. I love conversations like this, we need it so much
Jamaicans have more success in America than Black Americans. Jamaicans are not obsessed with racism and have much better self esteem.
I’m an American born child to a Panamanian 🇵🇦 mother(Afro latina) and a Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 father( Afro Latino)…let’s just say I needed this ❤️❤️❤️❤️💪🏽 all my Afro Latinos stand up ‼️✊🏽
Glad Latinos are having these convos finally
they get so uncomfortable around this topic which shows it needs to be talked about
Briana Gebell i didn’t say anything about experts....
Briana Gebell 😂😂😂😂
Briana Gebell congrats on being a real latina i guess
Why it won't change nothing.
Being an Afro Latina🇵🇦 whenever I let coworkers know that I’m latina, their always asking me to prove it or speak Spanish. But I feel if I fit that picture image of a Latina and I let people know that, it wouldn’t be questioned at all because I fit that image.
I’m a really mixed bag of blackness that includes Cuba and Panama. I’m just glad to see representation of Latin blackness in entertainment and serious conversation because I’ve almost never seen it before or anywhere else. Thank you so much, Pero Like.
I'm Cuban and African American
I am cuban and Puerto Rican American mixed race. I support the afro Latino movement.
Cubans are originally black aboriginals hence the community being a majority of melanated peoples.
@Briana Gebell So what should we call these people?
I AM CUBAN ❤ TOO
Tbank you for bringing this topic to the forefront. Growing up Afro Puerto Rican. I never felt like I was enough or knew my worth. Now, that I'm older I love me Afro puertorriqueña🇯🇲🇵🇷🇯🇲🇵🇷🇯🇲🇵🇷🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼
Hi, & GOOD FOR YOU 😊 SELF ❤ & SELF WORTH IS ESSENTIAL !! EVREYONE IS SPECIAL ❤ IN THERE OWN WAY , REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE, I AM CUBAN ❤, LIVE , L❤VE & 😂 & BE THE BEST VERSION OF YOURSELF !!
Thank you @Lily J🌞🌻
@@Goldenfire730 BENDICIONES 🙏⛪ PARA TI NENA , & STAY SAFE & WELL, I CAN RELATE TO YOUR STORY , I HAVE A DAUGHTER THATS 22 YRS OLD, & SHE WENT THROUGH THE SAME AS YOU, SHE HAS BROWN SKIN , & MIXED SALVADORIAN / CUBAN ,& SHES COME SUCH A LONG WAY! I AM SO PROUD OF HER❤, SHE'S TRANSFERING TO UNIVERSITY THIS FALL & HER MAJOR IS SOCIOLOGY/ LATIN AMERICAN STUDIES ❤✊✊
I’m a first generation Belizean, Honduran and Haitian dating a 3rd generation Mexican American and this relationship has been interesting as he was ignorant to the existence of Afro-Latinidad. There were even moments he invalidated my latinidad altogether in the beginning. Luckily, he recognized the importance of learning that blackness and latinidad are not mutually exclusive. Videos like these from Pero Like and the documentary Black in Latin American were extremely helpful to improving his understanding. He still has a lot to learn. He cringes when he hears “white Latinos” and struggles with acknowledging whiteness in the Latino community especially in feeling that gringos have monopolized “whiteness” much like how African Americans have monopolized “blackness” and still dont recognize Afro-Latinos as “black enough” sometimes. With that being said, I have a huge request for Pero Like to start representing more dark-skinned Afro-Latinos in these videos like Joyce and the hondureña featured in a previous video (I don’t remember her name). Most of the discussions around Afro-Latinidad feature people that look like Judy Reyes or Erica Mena and not
so much like Laz Alonso, Gina Torres and Faison Love. The full spectrum needs to be represented.
Also, Belize has been represented once on Pero Like. English and Spanish are both our national languages and would love to see us included more.
Wow. I know you said hes Mexican American but does he know who Vicente Guerrero is? To be fair, Mexico is not great with representing those who aren't on the Whiter side. Heck, they just added Afro/Black on their census, when they've had Black people there just as long as the US.
social media That’s not accurate. Guerrero was indeed of African descent. Additionally, Mexico has a history of having had the 2nd largest importation of African slaves in the Western Hemisphere, Brazil being the 1st. There was more miscegenation amongst the slaves, Europeans and indigenous populations in Mexico but there are areas like Costa China and Veracruz that have black people who are descendants of that direct history. The Caribbean immigrants you speak of do not make the majority of the black population in Mexico and are a more recent influx to the population in Mexico.
HELL0NESSA you’re right, but even that bit of history he was unaware of. He was in complete denial of Mexico’s history of having African slaves. What he has explained to me is that he is removed
from actual Mexican history and knows only the culture passed down to him and how he relates to other Mexican Americans. He’s coming around though. I told him if we’re going to be together he has to educate himself enough to at least acknowledge the reality of who I am as an AfroLatina. He has come a long way....
Karen Aguilar yesssssss!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Black Americans don’t generally feel that Afro Latinos aren’t black enough. On the contrary, we feel that Afro Latinos generally deny their blackness and go out of their way to separate themselves in an effort to not be seen as black- generally speaking. Admittedly, we do feel that way about Biracial looking Latinos not the ones who are clearly and unambiguously black
Thank God this conversation is being had. Colorism is rampant throughout the Latin community and it needs to be addressed
Colorism is rampant everywhere sadly. This conversation is exactly the same among Asians and Americans of African descent. The darker you are, the worse you are treated especially among your own which breaks my heart. African Americans are also having these tough conversations between ourselves and some progress is being made. But like our Afro Latinx brother and sisters, we still have a way to go. But I have faith we all will get there. Seeing more people openly having theses talks gives me hope ❤️💕❤️
@@lo5182 WTH
@@lo5182 Colorism affects all of us, but a lot of people are misinformed or know nothing about it. She's glad that this channel is addressing this issue in the latinx community and spreading awareness.
JT bro why do you say this on all positive comments
@Briana Gebell Jesus Christ, girl, chill. Nobody's pretending to be Italian or of latin descent. Latin America is just the name that was given to the parts of America that speak languages derived from latin (mostly portuguese and spanish). It doesn't have anything to do with your ethnicity.
I am so excited that this conversation is happening all over the world. Being Black and being Latinx is not mutually exclusive. White supremacy would have you thinking that it is.
Brandi Robinson Facts! Great Point. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I really dislike the term LatinX, this comes from English speaking people that don't know or understand the difference between a Latin O or Latin A, so to make it easy on them they came out the new label LatinX
Nobody calls themselves LatinX. Just Latino or Latina.
@@nomad4731 I think it has more to do with it being a non-binary term and more light freindly I.e politically correct.
I disagree its black supremacy that would have you think that. Black supremacist groups separate themselves from latinos.
As a lightskin puerto rican, I was always ashamed of being white, because all my hispanic friends were darker skin. My dad tried explaining to me thay I was lucky to be born with lighter skin, as opposed to my sister who is darker and who has been racially profiled. It was hard to fit in no matter where I was or who I was with. Somehow I was not dark enough for my latino friends, but not white enough for my white friends. PERO. Al final del dia...I have to understand my privilege and that I have not been oppressed or discriminated like my other latino brothers and sisters. This was a great video.
Me too, i had the same experience...🇵🇷✌🏽
@@nuyoricansarenotpuertorica1020
Ephesians 4:29-32
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29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths,(A) but only what is helpful for building others up(B) according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God,(C) with whom you were sealed(D) for the day of redemption.(E) 31 Get rid of(F) all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.(G) 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another,(H) forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.(I)
Glad to see you realize that, it’s very unfortunate that some people do go about it as if it’s not their issue because they don’t experience racial profiling, yet they enjoy the culture, music & food which is very Afrocentric especially in the Caribbean, Brazil & countries with black diaspora.
I’ve never met a light skinned Latino being discriminated amongst other Latinos for being light...if anything, it was ideal...but I’m glad that you acknowledge the privilege that you have had over your darker sibling. If there’s something that annoys me, is Latinos pretending like racism isn’t an issue within our community.
Drew 2C ✊🏾
I like the conversation. But I am going to point out that A conversation about colorism and anti-blackness is being had without any dark-skinned Afro-latino people present. And that’s problematic. 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly
NC Okeke They must be late on how this work. Because other black people have already had the conversation about discussing things that happens to disenfranchise people without those people present in the conversation.
True , these are mixed race Latinos that face problems from not being accepted by their white Latino family members.
Godzilla Megatron exactly. I don’t want to hear about how you weren’t allowed to be white. I want to hear about how you as a light/brown-skinned Afro-latino benefited from colorism and how your dark-skinned Afro-latino peers did not. And I want them to be apart of the conversation. I want to see some accountability.
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As a non-Latino/a learning about this issue, I find it so crazy how darker skinned people are looked down on. The people in this video are absolutely stunning and educated. This is craziness!
This video is nothing but a propaganda smear on Latinos with the worst representatives stating issues
Kiki 81 in general, there is a tendency for cultures around the world to value light skin. Not saying all Latinos are racist among their own people, but I’m not surprised to hear about colorism. History repeats itself. Our generation is paving the way for more equality. The experts in this video are trying to educate us. It’s okay if you disagree with their point of view. We are all entitled to our opinions.
...and they wouldn't even been deemed "dark-skinned" in some circles. They are moreso caramel to me.
@@christinalee9336 thanks to the Spanish...
@@christinalee9336 you Asian do it more. Colorism comes from asia
This is cool but it gets tiring seeing only light skinned people represented as Afro-Latinos. Their experience is valid and deserves to be heard but I can't help but feel for the many, many dark skinned people (especially in a time like this) whose voice is not being valued or given a platform like this.
Thank you 100% agreed!
We agree with you and are being proactive about finding and casting these voices for future videos, thanks for tuning in, we hope that you find value in the information that was shared here ❤️
@@PeroLike Being proactive means that you're acting not in response to something after it has happened but that you yourself are making it happen. This is not proactive but reactive. I know that you (the person in charge of responding to these comments) probably had nothing to do with the creation of this video so please know this isn't response to you. But this video was disappointing. I did try to give it a chance but there were a lot of problematic parts about it (not even taking into account my first comment). And no, I'm not an SJW, haha, but seriously one of the women literally started naming random colors in a conversation about race. They brought up "reverse colorism" which exists only as much as "reverse racism" does... 🙄 And then they really went into a tangent about how colorism is more severe in LatAm when the things they mentioned (aside from the terminology) happen in the United States. As if Black people don't get called coal, roaches, and mixed people aren't fetishized for having "toned down Black features to make it pretty." As if mixed women aren't the ones who most represent Black women in media. Sure there is a lot more representation in US media but that representation is most often based off of racism and colorism. One woman said she experienced a "little bit" of lightskin privilege. I wonder what the darkskinned people experience. I know that editing can often misrepresent what people say so I want to remind here that I have no qualms about the people in the video, as again, their perspectives are important. I just wish these microaggressions and misrepresentations weren't apart of the video. It would've been more enjoyable. De todas formas les agradezco mucho por la oportunidad de tener esta conversación aquí con toda la gente en esta sección de comentarios. En serio, gracias. Espero con ilusión el contenido que van a subir en el futuro. :)
@@PeroLike tatyana ali(fresh prince-ashley) ,miles brown ( plays jack from blackish) , Amara la negra , juju from love and hip hop new york (cuban) , jessie woo ( hatian)if you cant find that then hit up the youtube vlogs growingup blackxican is one ( but like miles and tatyana they are black and latino). Ya Ya DaCosta, Melissa DeSousa(actress)
@@theartistmind7028 Great minds think alike. I'm on Amara's website trying to help this connection take place.
As someone who is Black and Puerto Rican I’m glad to see that we
are FINALLY having these conversations!! It’s about time!
Latin america needs more diversity in their leaders , it's always the white man . It's time for change.
Part of the reason is that most leaders come from historically wealthy families of predominantly Spanish lineage and have been intermarrying people of the same social status and wealth for centuries. And those people just so happen to also have control of the media and dictate Eurocentric beauty standards.
There definitely needs to be a dismantling of these systems that will allow more people who are more representative and connected to the cultural experiences of each Latin nation.
Costa Rica has black vice president of Jamaican descent, Epsy Campbell Barr.
El Maracaibero that’s true I’m Costa Rican, but it’s also important to point out how racist people are to Epsy. People use her to say this country isn’t racist but it is so so racist and colorist. I have very white skin and I always get told I am blanquita as if that’s something superior. It’s so common in here we are blind to it.
🇲🇽Afro-mexicano/a are in only 2(Oaxaca y Guerrero) states and recently(few years ago) WE were added to the census 🙏 they were trying to keep us hidden BUT NO MORE 😭 PROUD 🤎
YO TAMBIEN GÜEY MUCHO GUSTO CONOCERTE !!!!!!!
Stand Firm, Stay Strong 🙌🏾👏🏽👏🏽❤🇯🇲❤👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏾
AMEN...
God bless long live Pan Africanism black family rising all over the world!!!!!!
I'm Puerto Rican and Mexican and it pisses me off when my Puerto Rican grandma thinks the white/Italian girlfriends all my boy cousins date are soooooo cute but I show her a picture of my Dominican amiguito who I have a huge crush on and she tells me , he is dark and has a big nose🙄 I'm like grandma your nose is big too like tf my nose is big , your brother's nose is big. You not white either so wym? I don't I care because I swear he is gorgeous in my eyes and I'm putting a ring on it lol Like afro Latinos yall are beautiful. I'm also glad he pointed out that There are indeed WHITE P.R. with strong European features. Who say racist shit everyday about afro or even black American people but then turn around and say "oh no I'm not white I'm Puerto Rican and we are mixed with AFRICAN! and taino and Spaniard " like tf? Nah go be white now cause you chose that side already.
Damn.. that’s crazy
God Bless U & Yes Marry The Man U Want. U Only Live Once Go Be Happy
Exactly... the policing of blackness is so ignorant and frustrating.
I am a light-skinned Dominican. If I straightened my hair I could be white-passing. But people look at my feature and assumed I am mixed black and white. My mother is brown and my father is light-skinned. I have seen how different people treat me compared to my sisters who are darker. I am aware of my privilege. My mother has said before that she hopes to have another child who looks as light as me or lighter when she was considering another one. I called her out and asked her, "why?" and she didn't have an answer. She asked me if I thought I wasn't good and I told her that I love myself, but I also think that she and my sisters are beautiful and to go so far as to have a preference for skin makes it seem like she doesn't love herself. Honestly calling things out when you see it is so important. My mother used to constantly straight my and my sister's hair. She was big on not dating darker. She was big on a lot of fucked up shit concerning race. The conversation I mentioned earlier was 4-5 years ago. I do believe it changed something. But movements do something big too. The BLM movement, the natural hair movement, and seeing POC as models and in positions of power. She no longer believes in any of that and teaches my younger sister to love herself and her brown skin. She still has some problematic tendencies outside of colorism, but one thing at a time with her.
God Bless U & Your Family
Love this! But would also love to see some dark afro Latinos like me
We hear you, Jessica! Working to do so, thank you for watching and being a part of the conversation ❤️
@@PeroLike you could interview her. Or ask for interview with Monica styles.
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@Briana Gebell and please know I'm not trying to bring attention to myself. I'm trying to bring attention to the racism and colorism (intentional or unintentional) that exist within the entertainment space of ALL communities (including the American, Latino, Italian, ect.) and how we can do better. And this video specially addresses the issues black Latinos face in their communities this has nothing to do with you or Italians. And frankly as an African American woman it is the height of cultural appropriation (think of it as plagerism), racism, and ignorance to put up Italian flags with a bunch of black power fist emojis. I emplore you to educate yourself about different views other than one that support you ideologies. That's what makes for TRUE intellegence
I'm one of them. My Afro Latin American ancestry is from my maternal line.
i was not told to “arregla la raza”, my grandmother told me instead to marry white so i could have “cute babies”. i was a kid when she told me this. mind you, my grandfather was very dark, but she wanted me to marry white. i did marry i white guy, because i fell in love with him, and we have three gorgeous babies. my two girls take after their dad, my son takes after me, and now i worry that someone would put him down for it. I grew up in PONCE 🇵🇷PR, where everyone around me was brown or darker, with a sprinkle of whites. it just wasn’t something we discussed. now my husband and i talk about this all the time, we both have a lot to learn and process. he has assimilated our culture perfectly, but he admits being with my family, who are a beautiful spectrum of colors, is the most people of color he had ever known.
Continue to learn and grow.😊
My mother told me cásate con un blanco y no con el negro para que mejores la raza.( El negro is my daughter father ) y también me dijo a que sea que esa niña nazca blanca los hijos de ella pueden nacer negros. We are from Adjuntas P.R. . I still can't forget what she said to me.
Black women of different nationalities face the most severe effects of colorism.... Unlike their Black men counterparts, who as men accouter wealth and, hence, value among women of different races and nationalities, black women like other women seek to be valued in their beauty, but because of the deep stain of racism and caste color systems, hair texture bias, often feel like they have to manufacture their beauty through consuming products that make them less black in appearance. Equally, I cannot lie... There are variations to beauty, dare I say levels, but black women looking for themselves as representations of beauty in the world at large, with their spectrum of features, is relatively new....
except for the fact that the majority of men are neither seen as attractive to women and/or are wealthy by any comparative standard or measure
@@etf42 how is this an exception? What is the angle of this statement as an exception?
@@TuscanWonder my point is that you cant compare attraction between men and women. its like apples and oranges. you insinuated that that black women have it harder than men but is seems you are comparing the average black women to the small minority of black men who are wealthy and/or attractive to women. the average black man is far less attractive to women than the average black woman is attractive to men. The majority of women are only attractive to a small minority of men. men who are outside of this minority are invisible to women.
@@etf42 I hear what you're saying and I appreciate that you have moved the dial of the conversation to lend perspective. I can agree with you, from the vantage that there are definitely more women than there are men, that far more women desire a smaller proportion of those men who have the means/attributes to attract them. Though there may be fewer men, black men particularly (to tie this around), to whom which are found to be attractive by any and all women, and, additionally, by which black men and black women suffer the same physical feature prejudices in the eurocentric/non-dark-skinned/kinky, coily world, it is beauty that is the currency of women among men (at least primarily) . Would you not agree?
@@TuscanWonder yes, i would agree that beauty is the currency of women, and comparatively a dark skin woman will be less attractive than a light skin woman (all else held equal). however, since men's desire/attraction towards women is much higher than it is the opposite, the average man will face a lot more romantic rejection than the average woman will.
Second generation Afro-Latin American here. I didn’t grew up speaking Spanish. When I was younger I used to just identify as African American because I felt completely ostracized by my non-Black Latino relatives and there was barely any people of my age that identifies as Afro-Latino. It’s been a year of devoted teaching myself Spanish and embracing my Latin roots.
Pero si tú le preguntas hoy a un argentino si tienen negros ello dicen que nunca habido negros en argentina. Y cuando le preguntas porqué bailas tangos ? Entonces gira la cabeza de lado a lado desconociendo la historia del negro en argentina
Bueno punto.
Los que encontrastes
Son inmigrantes nuevos de hace 100 años atras .el verdadero argentino no ed blanco
"For non-black anti black folks - assume you engage in anti-black practices. The question is not if you do. It's how do." That comment was so accurate! This whole video was amazing.
people need to share this asap
Yes
As A West African I Found This To Me Highly Informative And Super Interesting . I love Hispanics/Latino Culture and I love that my Afro-Latinos are educating those who are not properly informed on this subject of history/blackness. Keep it up you guys you are much needed and loved. We are one 💜✊🏾🇸🇱
This is already a big debate in brazil, which is the country with the most black people outside the african continent and yet it is so racist. It would be nice if there were some Brazilian in the video, I often think that our experiences are different from other Latin countries, because of our large black community, idk. I would like to know more about it, it would also be nice if there was some with dark skin. I apreciatte the video initiative, its so important ❤
Papo RetãO!!!
Now this is why I continue to watch PeroLike. They have literally helped me with conversations with my son about identity. My son is mixed but looks solidly hispanic and as for me Ive always had to say oh im black and mexican. Now I just say I'm afro latina and leave it at that. My cousin who is black had a conversation about this and she tried to insist I should just say im black.... I told her why say that when I'm not? I'm proud of both sides and rep them my identity is mine not yours. Thanks PeroLike on point as always!🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thankyou so much for this I’ve had the same struggles.
The only reason to 👎🏾is because this wasn't long enough
We will never get over Samy Sosa why he do us like that
Sammy look a hot mess. I would really like to hear from him why he did that to himself.
@@jorhodes8507 it would really be interesting I bet it was to "look" more Latin American without having to be mistaken as black American
@@toffeecrisp9287 But to me he doesn't even look Latin American either. I don't know what look that is.
Like someone uncomfortable with his skin
It’s like the twins said, you cant hide this fact...This guy has lightened his skin tone to an unusual pale color, straightened his hair with the strongest of all relaxers...yet has obvious black facial features...plus, his kids are very tanned with black facial features as well...what a clown.
I'm Panamanian. In my home in Panama my family had issues with my uncle's marrying women that were mulatas. Anything darker than that wasent accepted. Never understood that because the sun darkens me to where I look mixed too. But it was the old school way my grandmother and her generation was. She lost that battle because most of all my cousins are mixed. Fuerza mi gente. Somos iguales. ☝️🙌💕
I'm panamanian too. I'm a teenager but I've noticed that dark skin people are humiliated on the Internet way too much and I just find it weird.
I'm Afro Panamanian and I was taught to love my blackness and embrace my African ancestry 🇵🇦💕💕💕💕💕💕
@@mariedit9935 really you do? Where are they humiliated? Bc as an immigrant latina in this country i had to run almost every day home bc BLACK girls would chase me trying to cut my hair, and im not white with blue eyes. So where are they humiliated?
I actually faced/seen racism in Bogotá than in Medellin or Cartagena when I lived there and I’m mixed race. It was really shocking cause I never experienced that in my own country
I found this video to be quite informative, but I have to agree with some of the other comments. Most of the afro-latinx people in the video most likely don't face the same levels of discrimination as someone with a darker complexion and blatant west African features. Having predominantly light skinned afro Latinos talk about an issue they may not experience the full reality of may lead to those who do face those reality not having the medium to voice their perspectives, there's a clear difference between learning about discrimination and dealing with it first hand . And although some of the guest experience it I'm sure it's not to the extent other afro Latinos have. That being said, it would also be important to address classism as race is not the only thing that leads people to discriminate, but race and classism can go hand and hand if you look into the history.
Much respect for Perolike thank you for putting this video together~
While most black Brazilians don't consider themselves Latin, there is MUCH WORK being done in this area especially on the pan african front! Would love to connect y'all with some black Brazilian activists!!
Yes, please do!! Can you drop their social media handles here in this thread?
@@PeroLike awesome excited! @Silviolual, @djamilaribeiro1, @walterpaim, @joiceberth
(P.s. if you need any help contacting them please feel free to contact me!)
These are all their IG's btw
Obrigado @@jaboy0978 !!
@@PeroLike Claro, gente!
Sueli Carneiro, @carneiro956
Jurema Werneck @juremawerneck
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Almost half of Nicaragua is of Afro decent. They are literally almost separated from the “mainland”. They have their own language which is English or a mix of that and native Miskito. Have their own culinary identity... the governments have NEVER given them Universities or access to higher learning, the Governments have only go there to take their beautiful lands. The Mainland isn’t taught about our amazing and prominent African roots.. except for a popular dance El Palo de Mayo. It’s almost as if we have two separate countries... although sometimes I feel that maybe it’s a blessing in disguise Bc they have maintained their traditions so alive.... the downside is that in an third world counties our Blue Fields is extra impoverished 😞 .
Thank you for sharing this I’ve never knew this me being married to a Nicaragüense never mentioned or talked about it. Sending peace and love your way from Boston ❤️
Raq G thank you, awwwh that’s very cool of you ❤️
If you haven’t already look up videos you’ll get a glimps of the culture. I’m from another region of the country but find bluefields amazing in its own right. Very proud of that culture.
Search for-
Blue fields
Palo de Mayo parades
Corn Island
El Caribe nicaragua
💞 sending Lots of cools vibes and love ur way!
Gabriel Lopez I’m From Nicaragua. Yes we do. Honduras also has an Afro community. UA-cam Nicaragua bluefields, festival de palo de Mayo, you’ll get a good glimpse.
Gabriel Lopez there are black people in Nicaragua too look it up.
This is truly a blessing that this channel is shining a light towards this topic. My family (my mother’s side in particular) struggles with this a lot given colorism in Latino America and rather than embracing our Indigenous and African roots they constantly ignore them and therefor I haven’t learned much to my true background. This is truly amazing, thank you.
Amazing thing for all Latins is getting your DNA tested. I know now that I am 60% Indigenous, Spaniard, and also African. I am from El Salvadorean decent
Thank you so much for this video! It's an uncomfortable conversation that many don't want to talk about. It's important to understand and accept that discrimination, racism, colorist exists within the Hispanic community and in our families. Even in the smallest joke or comment about beauty affects others who are experiencing oppression. I can't wait to share this with my coworkers.
Yes! This conversation is WAY overdue
The content continues to get better every video I watch. Being married to a Virgin Islander who is of Nevisian and Dominican background, this is a conversation we've been having for over 30 years. Our children are collectively Yoruba, they ALL have traditional Yoruba names because I would have it no other way. 🤣 Simply put, I'm Nigerian-American and my wife Afro-Caribbean. At the end of the day, it's Blackity, Black, Black, Black in our family.
Seeing and hearing Afro-LatinX peoples from throughout the Americas express themselves in such a meaningful way warms my heart. Black Americans more specifically need to hear this narrative because there have traditionally been unfortunate tensions between Black Americans and Puerto Rican and Dominican communities about Blackness.
Two different sets of experiences impacting, relatively speaking, the same peoples. As a West African, colourism certainly exists on the continent but it's manifested differently than it is throughout the Americas. Most of it in Africa is due to skin lightening as opposed to being born lighter than someone else. What's a bigger issue on the continent is what ethnic group do you belong to because that identifies you far more than your skin tone or nationality.
I will end with this, for those of you exploring your African roots especially through genetic testing and discovering the various parts of West and Central Africa your ancestors are from, GO VISIT! Good places to start would be Ghana, the Gambia, and Senegal. They have highly developed tourist industries and you can visit and travel safely within those nations.
If you're considering a place you can speak Spanish in, well there's only one former Spanish colony in Africa and that's the country of Equatorial Guinea. Spanish is the lingua franca there along with several local ethnic languages. Peace and blessings to one an all!
Tosin is a beautiful name.
Yes I am light skinned Afro Latina 🇬🇾🇵🇷 and Dr. Miguelina was right about the inner racism in the Latinx community. This is a great discussion.
You should watch Henry Gates Black in Latin America
Briana Gebell if you think I read your whole comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣didn’t even read the second line 😅😅😅😅😅
That series is rife with misinformation despite its good intentions.
That video was bullshit
i wish this was made in Spanish so I could show my family
Thank you for continuing this conversation. We Latinx have a problematic history of racism and colorism in our countries of origin, as well as in the US. Just because it's not codified does not mean it doesn't exist. Gracias, Pero Like!
Latinx? Who is that?
Adelantar la raza is canceled...PERIODT!!!
💯🙅🏽♀️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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This is such a good conversation. ESPECIALLY with what going on now with the whole BLM movement and seeing so many latinx having such negative to say about it like they can't be discriminated too. We all the same POC.
It's most likely the Lighter/white ones.
That's what I've noticed for years.
The Big problem is that they don't see themselves as just black because of long generations of race mixing, but we go by the one drop blood rule, we are most certainly black even we don't look "black"..so many say but I'm mixed which is true but to the world; especially the anglo/caucasian world one is BLACK. Latin america is much more complex..& we have also been taught to embrace the hispanic/european side and not the other..
I genuinely believe this has a lot to do in the rivalry btwn the 2 sides of hispaniola.. Im not naïve it aint goint to fix everything but hopefuly this will bring light onto the matter.
Also the ( tainos/arawak/wayuu/garifuna) native culture needs to be put forward too. Bc central and south america has mainly a poolgene of 3 ethnic groups. And it is a rich heritage
Love quisqueya ! 🇭🇹 +🇩🇴 and all the countries in the région ! Caribe power !
Laverdure! Ken 💕
God bless the makers of this video. I was so impressed with all the scholars that spoke. I am a scholar of Afro American studies, History and Peace and Conflict studies. I have always been interested in learning about the other 90% of Africans that made it to Latin America. The 10% in the United States have always been vocal but Latin Americans seem silent. So glad they are speaking up now. Thanks again for this video. So beautiful to see young scholars like me who have a passion for Black studies ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿🖤🖤. Love from Nigeria.
Can we also acknowledge that a lot of these systematic forms of oppression GREATLY impact those of us “LATINX” (which is a term in and of itself Eurocentric no? ) with Indigenous blood.
Yea its anglisizing Spanish
@@arroyhondo Spanish is a white language. You can not anglofy it
@@carm7518 spanish is part of the latin languages (french, portuguese, italian, romanian) its not anglo. anglo is english part of germanic languages
Appreciate the shout-out to the Haitian revolution. Fun fact: one leader of the Haitian revolution was Alexander Petion. He was close friends with Simon Bolivar and helped inspire him.
@Lola Torrez dessalines didn't just do that to Dominicans but also to lighter skinned and mixed race Haitians. It wasn't a Haitian problem but a dessalines issue. That's like me bringing up Trujillo (who committed attrocities against dark skinned Haitians) as if to say that would mean we couldn't find solidarity. Don't be divisive. My post was about finding new alliances, not dwelling on past conflicts.
@Lola Torrez you're an ethnic nationalist. You're down to "fight" Haitians? What does that mean? We're not dessalines, we're not trying to conquest anyone. We're more genetically similar than you would admit and your culture isn't going anywhere. Haitians aren't destroying your environment. Your language is extremely similar to eugenecists and those who support ethnic cleansing.
I saw a video from a man claiming to be a “true” Dominican. Saying people of color ain’t apart of their race. It was so sad to see.
Lol what everyone comes from people of color
Because it’s not a race it’s an ethnicity
Lmao I know exactly who you’re talking about but forgot his name. He’s always yelling in his videos.
Something that is rarely spoken is something that I see, sometimes Afro-Latinos things that they are better than African American. I worked with a guy from Honduras and he said something negative about an African American which was lighter than him, which ended with, "ese negro." And someone told, "What you are talking like that, tu eres mas negro que el."
Sad that even in our families you hear those comments, I'm sure it's not ill intended but it's still hurtful
I think you guys need to do a video explaining what all these terms mean latino, latinx, Afro-latino, indigenous, hispanic, and Chicano because I've been seeing a lot of comments of confused people not knowing what the words mean or using them incorrectly.
Wish we could have spanish subtitles. That way I could show this video to a lot of my friends snd family
Exactly ! Finally afro- latinos speaking out 🙌.
When I lived in Dominican Republic from 1994 until 2006, I remember how some kids would call me a monkey and tease me for my small ears. Kids that called me monkey were mostly light brown which is internalized racism.
what are r u?and what did u say back to them?
This is so amazing to see! Thank you guys for creating this but I think it's even more powerful that you guys allowed the "experts" to speak on this. The topic is soooo important please consider translating to Spanish for our brothers & sisters back home.
I loved listening in on this conversation. I agreed with everything except for one point at 11:54-12:21. From what I've gathered from this conversation along with other information I've learned over the years, it seems like these conversations about racism in some Latin American communities are still pretty new and just beginning to become mainstream. Before calling "reverse colorism" keep in mind that a lot of the Black people you may be having these discussions with have darker skin and haven't been able to wiggle out of blackness over the years as light-skinned Latin American people might have been able to do in the past. Light-skinned people need to listen to dark-skinned people when they have something to say about racism. I'm saying this as an African-American light-skinned person. As discussed in this conversation, a level of privilege comes with having lighter skin and sometimes we need to use that privilege to listen. If a darker skinned person telling you "you're light-skinned, you're not really black" is the worst thing that happens to you based off of skin tone within the black community, you still got it made compared to some other's experiences. Yes, of course you're allowed to express yourself and your blackness in whatever way you see fit but keep in mind that dark-skinned people's experiences with blackness have been MUCH different than yours.
thankkkkkks i was thinking the same.
Latinos have it a bit easier when wiggling out of blackness, because there's Native American heritage and dark skin can always be attributed to those genes instead of the African ones. For example, I'm 7.8 percent African, but even the African community tells me that's not enough and when categorizing me, they rather say I'm white or mestiza (white and NA).
Colorism is very much a phenomenon in the African American community in terms of beauty standards. However, I wouldn't go as far as saying that being light skinned is anything remotely close to being privileged as being white at least in the American context.
So educational while still being entertaining. I never felt like I was being lectured at but learned so much
I think this quote applies to white supremacy within BIPOC folks.
"I asked a friend who is very well-versed in teaching and coaching Asian-Americans around our shared history and he put it beautifully when I asked why our own people would go to bat for someone who was neither an ally nor accomplice:
“... recognizing that playing nice to white folks, especially men, is how so many Asian communities made it here and achieved any level of comfort or success. It's all founded on aligning ourselves with white folks. So carving out space separate from them and rejecting their validation is a deeply radical act.”
Thank you so much for this! ❤️
Unapologetically mixed and proud of all that makes me up equally. 🤘💫
Being light skinned Latin keep it 100 idky ppl hating. The dark skinned Latinas are the BEST!!!🙏🏼🇵🇷🤙🏼
Thank you for the book recommendations. I look forward to reading them.
Omg Brujas of Brooklyn 😍✨✨love this collaboration. the masterclass we all need. 🙏🏽
much needed conversation that needs to be had within our community-- from a national/international scale to individual families!
Great discussion on important issue for black people world wide. I'm Canadian born of Caribbean background (Barbados) and growing up I've seen some of the same attitudes within Afro anglo-Caribbean community. Very frustrating and shows how legacy of colonialism and enslavement affects black people to this day.
I'm an afro-European woman and believe me when I say that colourism in Africa is no better. It's sad because the colonial past is so deep in the African society. When I use to go in the motherland (I'm from Togo - West Africa) my aunt or uncle still think that being lighter = beauty. It's complicated to change mind but I now realize that it's more about trauma than anything else. Thanks for the video, I'm learning a lot about mis hermanos y hermanas for the Afro-Latino community, hope we could pass it, build ourself and show a united front somedays!
Please make videos like this with Spanish subtitles so we can share them with our families 🙏🏾
Your videos are in depth and interesting!! Thank you for the work you do.
It is so inspiring and makes me so proud to see that despite all the obstacles and adversity we continue to face (as spoken in this video) to see how far OUR people can go. Thank you to all the scholars in this video for gifting us with knowledge and broadening our mentality. Seeing you all only proves that our people are LUCHADORES Y QUE SI SE PUEDE!! May you all keep gifting the gift of knowledge!
As a Black man who have 2 Afro Latina daughters I am happy that this is being discussed . I remember when my daughters father first saw me he went through the roof . A Black man with his Puerto Rican daughter. It took him a while to come around . This topic need to be address as to the roots of this thinking. At the end of the day you are discriminated against as well yet discriminate against Us
I'm afro Latino and proud of it and you can't take that from me
@Briana Gebell im sry but u don't kn me or my families background ,my father is full Mexican,mother is half black .I am Where I'm supposed to be don't tell me I'm the problem or the cure.cuz im not.im sry that u feel this way about Mix race ppl
We have to deal with racism from whites, and then colorism from our own.
All because of colonialism that our ancestors experienced generations ago. It really was a vile disease that spread throughout the world that the more “white” you looked, the superior you were to others who are darker.
I love hearing all these educated Afro-Latinos speak that Truth. God Bless them and all of their families..🤝
Wow! This was great to hear. I am a African American and I have worked around Latinos for years. It was great to hear so many latinaX members admitting to this problem and how they are combatting it. If you are noticeably a person of African decent chances are you have a lot of the same experiences of racism and being treated unfairly no matter what country you are from. Please continue to keep up the fight in the latin x community.
Everyone so beautiful ❤️I love to see it! Shout out to the twins! ❤️gorgeous love this video
Crazy cause I always wanted to be excited by the darker Latinos who didn’t think I looked Latino enough
Im African American and I love hearing things from the perspective of my latino brothers and sisters.
"You cannot escape reality" - I love that.
Thank you for talking about this!
Los negros han sido discriminados por mucho tiempo en Latinoamérica, no tanto como en otros lugares, pero igual discriminados. Me alegra que compartan su experiencia.
Tambien hay que decir que los latinos negros son discriminados por no-latinos (gringos y latinos gringos) que quieren decirles que no son latinos porque no son un estereotipo. También hay negros gringos que dicen que los afrolatinos no son "negros de verdad" como pada con Cardi B y otros. Esto también pasa con los latinos blancos, muchos "latinos" que viven desde que nacieron en EEUU insultan a los latinos blancos y les dicen que no son latinos por no ser un estereotipo de mexicano mestizo. Además de que no hay que asumir que todos los latinos blancos son de clase alta y vivenlo más bien.
PD: Gracias por decir más latino que esa estupidez de 'latinx'.
Eso es por la ignorancia de la gente, y los medios de entrenamiento lo único que hacen es darles la razón.
Yo pienso que en Latino America, los afro descendientes, han sido más discriminados que hasta en USA
@@Andreabruno81907 porque?
@@elmermontilla6371 yo puedo hablar por lo que vi cuando crecí en Colombia. La mayoría de personas de color eran marginadas y vivían en zonas extremadamente pobres y sin ningún tipo de ayuda. Casi nunca veía una persona de color en la política, TV ( a no ser que fuera campesino y maid) . Las personas de color tenían estigmas muy malos. No se si las cosas sean igual ahora pero se que todavía se vive en la extrema pobreza en zonas como el Choco y Buenaventura Colombia . Es triste 😞
I am so grateful for this video. As a secondary Spanish teacher, I am going to incorporate this in class, definitely going to show this to my high school students. We do not talk about this enough in schools (actually, I don't think I have ever had a class as a student que tocara este tema...).
The beauty about Latin America is that we have so many cultures, ethnicities and races. African, European, East Asian, middle eastern, and everything in between.
Wait a minute these Latinx people look racially ambiguous. I was hoping see somebody that looks like Gabrielle Union but with a Spanish surname. Someone like Celia Cruz or youtuber Monica Style Muse.
Umm...they are mixed ? Just like most of Us are ? These women clearly have African decent and will be categorized as such where ever they go , especially here in ‘Merica that is soo obsessed with lumping everyone in a box.
@@jibarabicha4853 I see racially ambiguous women claiming Afro Latinx identity because it is hot to be Black right now. I want to hear straight Blackity Black Afro Latinx folk looking like Samuel L. Jackson, Wesley Snipes, Naomi Campbell, or Serena Williams talking about their experiences with colorism and racism in the Latinx community.
Those women did not speaking experientially about colorism but tangentially.
@@jibarabicha4853 And mixed is not Black. You figured they were mixed by their appearance and didn't think "Oh those women are as Black as they come. Yep! They are hotcomb on the stove getting the kitchen fixed, plastic on the living room furniture, grease the scalp with Blue Magic Black."
This was a panel of academic experts. I’ve seen multiple comments like this.
@@jibarabicha4853 There could have been a panel of unambiguously Black Afro Latinx academic experts. Don't they exist? I don't want to go to a panel discussion about the historical context of Juneteenth and Jane Elliot, Tim Wise, Rachel Dolezal and Robin DiAngelo are panelist.
No no where are my dark Latinos who are happy to say I am black I need to see them on this showcase....Honduras Panama Nicaragua stand up
I know 3 Afro Latinos who hid they were Latinos, 1 from Puerto Rico, 1 from Cuba, 1 from Panama. They all said I am Black. I said to them all why don't you tell people, they all said I am just Black.
I feel fortunate to learn from the Rodriguez sisters without formally being their student. They’re brilliant!
Thank God someone finally said, out loud on a large platform, that just because you change your features via surgery, or lighten your skin via creams and such, doesn’t mean that your original features and skin won’t show up in your babies!!!!!!🤦🏾♂️