Afro-Latinos Have A Conversation On Blackness With Their Parents
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- In this video, Gadiel and Alexis have conversations with their parents about Blackness within the Latinx community.
We at Pero Like realize how much work is left to do to dismantle the racism within our own community and are committed to using our platform to promote unity and allyship with the Black community. Juntos logramos mucho.
For all of those who are Afro-Latin take a trip to Bahia, Brazil. They have never stop embracing their African roots. Their motto is " We may have left Africa, but Africa never left us".
Or is true
@@kejekdkdje5542 it’s true, do some research on Bahia! The music, culture, rituals, religion, foods are straight out of Africa, all rites of passages
Beautiful!!!
_the post civil war confederacy has entered the chat_
In all seriousness I can’t speak for Brazilian culture since I’ve never studied it or lived it myself, but it seems to me like they still have the problem of colorism from what I have seen and taking history into account.
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Afro Latinos shouldn't be in denial of there African roots. Being African or black is beauty and pride.
Majority is proud of it..
@@geogmz8277 actually you are wrong majority is not proud most really dislike to be compare with blacks I learned that growing up
sassysyl always I think it depends. Puerto Rican’s, Dominicans, and Cubans have very different responses to blackness. I think black Puerto Rican’s are more willing to accept their blackness than Dominicans and Cubans.
@@free22 agree with you
Not A Federal Dominicans be looking like Chris Tucker saying “I’m not black”
It's shocking to me that still in this day and age people would say things like "Hay que mejorar la raza" I'm black, African, Ghanaian to be specific. I have traveled to South American countries and speak Spanish. Whenever my Latino friends show me their foods like plátano frito, rice and beans, fufu etc. and are surprised when I tell them I know this or how I know how to dance salsa, rumba, bachata etc.; I'm like "are you serious?" The root is all AFRICAN. That means you don't have to explain to me what plátano frito is. It was brought to your country from Africa. The rhythms, music, culture, food, religion were taken to the Caribbean and South America by enslaved Africans. So you should know your history well enough to know that in fact, you have more African influence than anything else. Eso es mejorar la raza! To learn about your true history not the colonizer version. Go to Ghana and see that our culture, food, music etc. is so similar cause that's where it all came from. Especially West African, since that's were most people were enslaved to be taken to the Americas. I'm glad more and more Latinos are starting to educate themselves and know that claiming your African roots should be something to be proud of because that's undeniably what a huge portion of your culture is made up from!
Correct , & every man wombmen & child is black except white, truth Ace....
jay stone shut up. Only those of African descent. Your comment basically ignores the existance of native americans, and you’re giving me the vibes of being one of those individuals with the “we wuz kangz n shiettt” mentality who claim people that aren’t in their heritage to be black, when they weren’t.
Very very well said 👏🏾👏🏾 💯
From Côte d'Ivoire. So yes i get the same exact reaction from Latinos..NOT the Español speaking part. But the :you can dance our dances. All of them.: I'll tell them yes, but not the tango, cause that's too European for me 😄😄😄
They are Taíano Indians they were already there ain’t no Africa.
I cried at the end because it reminded me that since my abuelito passed, I haven't enjoyed a philosophical conversation in Spanish in 13 years. I was the darkest of the grandchildren & to protect me he instilled the art of conversation. My parents didn't speak to me in Spanish to protect me from having an accent in the Bay Area but my grandfather did & listening to Gadiel speaking to his father this way brought back a part of me I didn't know I missed. Thank you for that.
Wow but the Bay is full of latinos!
Grandparents are the best, I lost mine young and miss them everyday. They really gave me the life tools to survive as a (Latina/White & NA/White) in the world. If I were you I would consider volunteering for the elderly Latino population in someway, I think you would be great at it :)
Me too, he reminded me of my dad that passed years ago. Great video all around
Speak whenever you can with those like you. WE are here for you too!!!! THIS HERE IS THE FORUM WE ALL have to share and grow in. COME HOME, HERE. AQUI ESTAMOS. Hablemos pues 😁
Awww....grandparents are special.
As an African I'm so happy to see a lot more of my Afro-Latino brothers and sisters connecting more with their African roots.
I truly Love and adore our African brothers and Sisters(I’m Black American) Africa! Has to come out of the colonize mindset as well, with so many Africans lightening their skin, wearing weaves and altering their eye colors! Also! Africa has never acknowledge its role in all this,
Just conversations that need to be had to continue this great awakening and healing that’s taking place❤️❤️❤️
What are you talking about most “Afro Latinos” are the Indians of the America’s they are taíno Indians they are the aboriginal people of this continent ain’t no Africa here.
totally! It's the captive side learning more about the captors! Most of the Transatlantic slave trade was done by Iberians!
Martin Truth not true we all didn’t come over on boats. Some of us were already here with dark skin and woolly hair
As a black woman with beautiful black children, I respect these Latin folks for recognizing their blackness and embracing their eccentric cultural heritage!❤️
Please just stop🤦♂️
Thank you 💜
@@amymelene2218 🤦♂️
"Somos un solo pueblo"......We are one people
@@carlosleon8224 one people united. 💜
Gadiel when he said “no me diga” when his dad started talking about being called a monkey 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 It hurts to hear our elders talk about their racism experience 💔
Things aren't right at the moment, but things were worse.
But even though his father experienced racism, he's still holding on to an ancestry that treats him as inferior. Spaniards don't treat Black people as their peers. In the Caribbean countries and even in Mexico and other Latin countries, they treat their Afro communities like crap and don't want to acknowledge their African roots. That's why I love Amara la Negra so much because she's blowing the cover on the dirty secret of many Hispanic communities!
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Oh please I was just called a monkey yesterday and all is well. We have to start getting past our discomfort and addressing this sensitive topics that are important for our growth
No one should ever have to feel and live that way
People try to pretend like the boat didn’t pick us up from Africa and drop us off in different places. We’re a disparate people from the same homeland. Embrace that. Cherish it. Love it. Paz y plátanos 🍌🇩🇴🍌🇩🇴
Exactly! A mother, father, son, and daughter from a country in Africa could have been dropped off in 4 different places.
As a Black woman, I see us all as cousins. Whether we all ever truly accept that remains to be seen. Even as we all struggle to find our identity as it relates to history and erasure, Africa still breathes through us. In our art, our music, food.. everything. This video is so important.
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Serán guineos maduros no plátanos 👁👄👁
Right
MY ANCESTORS WERE SLAVES TOO Eso no es verdad yo vivo en República Dominicana
*DOMINICANS DO NOT IDENTIFY AS BLACK OR WHITE, WE JUST CLAIM DOMINICAN THATS WHAT BLACK AMERICANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!* I LIVE IN DR AND THERES NOT SUCH A THING AS AFRO-LATINO. DOMINICAN ARE TRI-RACIAL *IF YOU DONT LIVE HERE TO SEE WHATS REALLY GOING ON YOUR OPINION ABOUT MY COUNTRY IT DOES NOT HAVE VALUE FOR US* ¿Por que te importa tanto un país de donde ni siquiera perteneces?
Gadiel’s dad talks like a doctor. Definitely full of wisdom
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Why does he say he doesn't know where he comes from? Isn't it rather clear that the point of origin was West Africa for most black persons brought to the Americas? In fact, a DNA test will pinpoint the areas of West Africa of his ancestors' likely departure from there to here.
@@radrook7584 because he really doesn't know EXACTLY where they come from. Of course he knows they come from Africa but is very difficult to know from which country or village we come from, also because we mixed with people from other parts of Africa and also from natives and white people (I am Brazilian).
In my case for example: I am black and of course I know I'm African descendent but is difficult to know where I'm from. I look people from countries like Angola, Nigeria, Mozambique but I cannot see exactly my ancestors come from there.
I can see why Gadiel is a good man. He’s got good roots.
Yeah
For some reason he look different now!
I agree. His Dad is very impressive.
I just love the way his dad speaks--with such authority and wisdom, such introspection and grace. His ability to just forgive the hurt and move on is inspiring.
That’s not what makes people good or bad.
My father was exiled by Trujillo. He came to America when his neighbors raised money for him to leave so he would not be killed for the article he wrote in the paper against Trujillo. I am so proud that my Afro Latino father stayed strong during his trial. Today he has three strong and educated Afro Latina daughter living in the USA.
Do they still teach about the Maribal Sisters?
💪⚡ Powerful...God bless your family. Dios te bendiga.
I learned of the Maribel sisters growing up.
Paula’s Universe * thank you! 🥰
That is a beautiful legacy you inherited 💗💗
"Everybody wanna be Black but don't nobody wanna be Black" - Paul Mooney
During the 90's, youngsters of different nationalities wanted to be black
@Mariah Fox That seems like the truth tambien. Like, if I had been two small shades lighter, I humbly know, my life would've been lightly to kinda easier, when I had been looking for some work; especially..if I had been born with a long enough Spanish last name. I'm black, a little bit of Tuscaroran indian, & a little of Black foot indian, but with english names. Not a single African name. Not even an African-American name. My mama didn't really want me to have a, 'ghetto fabulous name'. Ciao.
@@errolthomas9426 this makes 0 sense black is a race not a national origin and blacks exist among many national origins.
You speaking from a silly American train of thought fix it
Hell no. Proud to be white latino
@@Abstract.Noir414 Respectfully, I believe he was speaking of the cultural appropriation if our culture that has taken place throughout history. We should also be kinder to one another and allow for differing of opinions. Imo!! Peace and blessing!!
Thank you Pero Like 🧡 The African Diaspora around the world are waking up and connecting. It’s a beautiful thing and will lead to a lot of healing amongst ourselves.
Not really tho...no one protest arabs enslaving africans no one protest indonesia colonizing west papua they prefer to statues of dead men in europe ehila accross the medditerrean arabs sell africabs in ooen slave markets 0protest of africans against this
@@ojberrettaberretta5314 It will happen! This awakening is a process that will eventually lead to our liberation both mentally and physically all over the world soon. It is like the process of filling a bucket full of water one drop at a time. It will happen because the process has started and it can't be stopped! This is the internet era! Our voices are heard all over the world now. We are now talking to one another. One thing you must understand is that you are part of the African Diaspora, you are loved, and you must cherish that thought!
@@LionelRiley idk man 1400yrs slavery and no one does anything against it its sickening
No one can 'correct the race''. This is like wanting to remove the foundation of the house to fix the roof.
Africa will not be denied. Our blood is the heartbeat of humanity.
I am so proud of the young people having these talks within the family.
Btw, your dad looks so much like my family on the continent.
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Good for us race is not a house, so yes we can correct this behavior.
@@luci1474 what behavior? Care to elaborate?
No that’s not how it works. Look up Domingo German he’s a baseball pitcher for the Yankees none of his kids look anything like him because he had children with a white complexion dominican. “Fix the race” is something that very much exists in darker skin people why else would they Pursue lighter skin women ?
I’m African American and it’s really nice to see this. When I used to talk to Latinos and I referred to them as black they automatically got angry and said that they’re not black. I never understood why they thought that they weren’t black. After that I started not including them. I’m so glad this conversation is happening in the Latin community.
Yeah you're right when we accept them into the black community it shows our hospitality. And they should be very happy for that
Because not all latinos are black
Not all Latinos are of African descent or even have any African in their DNA. Only us lucky one's. I'm of Puerto Rican descent and am triracial. European, African and Taino. I knew it before my AncestryDNA results eventually confirmed it. We Nuyoricans tend to say that we're all tri-racial and are a mixture of the three races. Unfortunately, the island wasn't closed off after the Spaniards invaded, the Natives were raped and the African slaves were imported. People from all over the world continued to migrate there for the last 5 centuries. Even to this very day. But thankfully, our culture is a mix of the three races. From our language, music, food, customs, etc. etc. Many of us embrace that tri-racial identity. Whether it's genetically or just culturally a part of us. While the majority of islander are triracial genetically, some are not. So to say you're Black to someone who claims their triracial identity, they would be offended because they embrace all three. Claiming one, neglects the other two. Or to say you're Black to someone who knows their ancestry, in that their family migrated a generation ago from White Americans, White Europeans, Asians or Middle Easterners, would also not be correct. And then there are those who are mixed, triracial, biracial and only claim one race. They just don't know any better. Or refuse to accept themselves for who they are. I pity them.
This black girl over here, not all Latinos are black.
I'm sure the Latinos she's referencing here definitely have Afro features, yet are denying their ancestry.
Gadiel’s dad’s thought process on negativity in general especially regarding skin color is a problem of the other person is 👏🏾👏🏾🧡🙌🏾🙌🏾. I had to teach myself this and it frees you of so much anger, frustration and pain. Loved their conversation.
Exactly , and its the best way to move forward and forget those that hold racist , anti black views of you and themselves.....
P Hightower yes 🙌🏾
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Your statement is very powerful brother. Thank you...
This is so true. That’s how I handled it. In my mind I’d always think ¨to bad you feel that way but we are here to stay so suck it up and enjoy the view now go sit in the sun¨.
I am Black Honduran, now a U.S. Citizen. These conversations had me in tears, especially Gadiel and his Dad; I identified with some points. Thank you for doing this. 🥰🙏
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I'm of Honduran background and I discovered through Ancestry that I have a big chunk of the entire West Coast of Africa! It explains my pelo Malo and my wide nostrils! I was shocked! I was told that we are Spanish and Indio! BUT WHY did the Hondurans in my upbringing and some family members have African features? It was an unspoken mystery to a child born in the US! We live with blacks back home in Tela, Puerto Castilla, etc. BUT we do NOT mix I was told as a child! I feel betrayed by my dark skinned pops for pushing this in my head! I feel today that I need to honor our African ancestors who not only slaved in mines and plantations BUT are denied existence! Heartbreaking but I want to learn about them and reconnect! Thanks Mom for giving me the gift of cultural rediscovery!😅😅
I'm a Dominican and i do have a lot of African in me. I love my Afro side. I'm beautiful.... :)
Same 🤗
Keep loving it! Black is beautiful!
Same here brother , my grandfather is from San Cristobal
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See u admitted ur not black..u ha e it in u but u arent authentic black
Indigenous peoples have it hard too. Many reject and/or don't acknowledge it. I was one of those. Like Gadiel, I thought I was white even with my brown skin tone. My paternal grandfather is the only one who remembers and acknowledges our indigenous blood. He told me, "We are from this land and even if you grew up in the United States, you are still from here. The Spanish did horrible things to us and white people have exploited our lands for centuries. Yet, we still have our languages and our cultures. Be proud of that and don't forget that." I don't know if my other relatives don't acknowledge our roots because they simply don't know, colonization, or because of traumas. It wasn't until after my grandfather told me of our heritage and gave me his books of our history that I truly became proud of walking around as a Nahua and Purépecha&Chichimeca. Ca niquintlazohtla nachtontin ihuicpa tlaoltlalli. I love my ancestors from the land of the corn.
It’s crazy my mom who is a white, green eyes Guatemalan and has very little indigenous roots grew up hanging out with that community. She even learned the language. People would tell her not to but she loved the culture & really wanted to learn. I’d here these stories as a kid of how they fed her & taught her how to cook and this was ingrained in me. Even learning about the US colonization I knew that the way we treated the natives was awful because of the positives my mom spoke. I think she secretly wished to be native lol. But I was taught to embrace these cultures.
I was going to comment this and hoping to find a comment like this... truly made me happy bc this happens in our community to.. we must unity and decolonize ourselves.
I love your comment, my dad is Nahua and I ask him about his ancestors culture and he doesn’t know anything. His moms generation is the last to speak the language. They’ve all converted to Christianity and asking them about our ancestry seems like an insult now. I think they reject being indigenous, but I think it’s beautiful, and I can’t wait to visit MX and learn more.
@@andigomez1993 Where is he from?
Michelle Xilotl He is from Tepepa Hidalgo.
Wow, this is so fitting ‘cause, last night I was speaking with my mom and she started to say bad things about George Floyd. I started to fight with her. I told her she was being racist and ignorant for believing the “Facebook Posts” and gossips, because that wasn’t right. I asked her if she knew the history of our country. I told her when the Spanish people colonized our country they brought Slaves over, and that made our people. The mestizo or mix, whatever they call it. The truth is, we have African roots! You can’t deny that. Just because we are both light skinned doesn’t mean we aren’t mix.
I’m glad that you educated your mom. I truly don’t understand how anyone can say something bad about George Floyd it absolutely breaks my heart. He was existing and begging for his mom as he died like what did he do to deserve people hating on him after he was killed? Sorry to rant but I’m just sad.
Yea no matter floyds past he was innocent at the time just as breonna taylor and Elijah
They brought humans beings to enslave. You are welcome sis❤
@@sheryllove5734 Stop with the ignorance
That's is wonderful, that you had the courage to tell your mom the truth about yall true history. You should be very very proud of your self for standing on truth.
I remember my momma telling me that my paternal grandmother (who is Afro-Cuban) hated being called Black and never acknowledged her Blackness. I never understood it until I ran up on the PBS special "Black in Latin America". That series opened my eyes so much on this particular issue! It's definitely worth checking out!
Shout out to Henry Louis Gates Jr.
Strange that this is an issue now when most New Yorikens and obviously most Dominicans who were born and raised in the East East Coast, are embracing blackness and identifying with the African American community both cultural and racially. So if that is so, then numerically these groups should now be predominant culturally in that New York area and in full agreement with one another. That being so, what is the issue?
I love the conversation between Gadiel and his dad. His father's reaction to being compared with Malcolm X, shows he embraces his blackness.
Malcolm x bowed to arabs who enslave blacks
YES
The fun fact is Patrice Lumumba was one the greatest politician ever, he shook off Congo out of the Belgian Empire’s grip. Malcolm X himself said that he was one of the greatest African leader.
If only as a child he knew who he was dumbly being compared to he would have been dead pride from the get go.
@@MlleNnCo factssssssssssss
@Sharon Wong You wonder why. Sadly, I don't... But yes, glad that he has reconciled with his black identity, one way or another.
As an African American woman, thank god I didn’t grow up this way.
My mother has three children. I’m the darkest, my brother is more caramel, and my sister Is the lightest. Our dad and her are dark skinned and she was able to have these different complexions of children. It’s amazing to me how black genetics works.
Anywho, my mother never, ever, ever made us feel different because of our complexions. She thinks we’re beautiful.
I didn’t feel any kind of way about being dark until my thirties when I was ready to date and the black men whom I loved rejected me because I was “ too dark” for them. 🤷🏾♀️
I started hating them back and spewed all sorts or negative views towards them. Now, it is what it is. You love me you do, you don’t that’s your issue. I know my worth and any man who fails to see it, that’s their beef. 🤷🏾♀️
Same here both of my parents always made sure that I loved my skin and uplifted me. So, when I was teased for being dark skin it never phased me at all, because it really does start at home.
You have no idea... I didn’t grow up like this being AfroLatino, but a lot of people around me did
Girl I am soo glad growing up Black American . I mean we have our color issues but the Spanish really brainwashed our brother and sisters in Latin America. They need to start their own Black Lives Matter as they are majority in many countries
As an African American on the lighter end of the spectrum, I'm always amazed at LatinX individuals who are deeply offended when I "mistake" them for being black.
Colorism exists within the African American community but not to the point that we are in denial about being of African descent.
Kellease Taylor I’m Black American, I’m the lightest of 5, I have 3 children, two brown skin, one damn near white skin!!! We Blackady Black! I’m not sure but I think my younger sister has or had issues with my lightness! She’s always been indifferent towards me!!! Many Black Americans are also indigenous, but don’t get my statement of indigenous twisted cause Indigenous Americans are also Black, some are lighter, but many are dark, still being of African descent. The people Christopher Columbus saw were Black!!! I used to sit in the sun with the hopes of becoming darker like the rest of my family. My momma is Dark Brown and she’s my Queen! I
Self hatred is real in Afro-Latinos community... For real 😳 this is serious and shameful...
We all suffer from this way of thinking. Even in America.
It's sad, funny when those so called white Latinos immigrate to western countries. It must be hard for them not to be white anymore 😂🤣
@@The1andOnlyMadvibez : 😭😭😁😂
@Paloma San Basilio you don't have to tell me. I was born in South America and know how the race relations are. The chances of a white South American being 100% white are very slim. They usually have some indigenous and/or African DNA in them. You can look completely white but have a quarter black DNA so given the location and history again chances are slim. And we all know that white and black mean different things in different places. In Brasil for example some call themselves white when clearly they aren't. It's sad really that some people feel the need to be white so bad
@@The1andOnlyMadvibez I don't know why y'all blame whites when there are a minority in south america and don't care about you
I heard the same things from Haitian, Dominican and Cuban relatives. From a young age, you learn that looking too Black isn't good. You need to be light skin or if not, have at least silky hair & have a fine nose. You hear awful comments coming from Black people about other Black people. I called out my family on this multiple times. They don't even realise what they're doing.
It depends how you grew, in my case my im mulato. My mom is white Dominican with spanish parents, and my dad is black Dominican but i never had that issue. My family embraces our culture. After i moved to the US then things started to make more sense. I live in Bronx and most of friends are either balck, Dominican, or puerto rican.
It's very true hun! Sad to say
It depends on your upbringing, I’m Haitian and my parents, grandfather and extended family have always taught us to embrace being black, to embrace our roots, to LOVE our blackness. I haven’t met a Haitian person that’s is not proud to be black/has had issues accepting being black and our culture that is so similar to many African countries due to our beloved ancestors.
But how can Haitian deny being black majority of you all are black dark skin with African features. You guys culture is closest to African culture. So how can a haitian deny their blackness?? Now Dominicans I understand because they overall look more mixed that would cause them to claim their whiteness more.
French Vanilla I didn’t say they deny being Black. The country is proud to be the first black nation. I said that colorism and featurism is present in Haiti like in other Latin American countries. We once had the most mixed-race population on the island. A lot of Haitians with power today are partially white or Lebanese... Not everyone in Haiti is Black. Everyone is Haitian but not everyone is Black. “Bettering the race” was also practiced in Haiti but mostly by the higher ups. But it depends on your family, where they’re from and their social class.
When Gadiel said that he felt as if his story was erased I felt that in my soul. Growing up in DR we always talked about our European and even Taino influences, but not once did they teach us about our African roots and how the Dominican culture is mainly built on the African culture. They only talk about Africans when it came to slavery and completely disregard the beauty and the important role they play on who we are today, and that hurts
Ali B most dominicans don't associate with. Or want to be associated with ther color black.most of that island is black we jamaicans and Haitians laugh at them.we west Indians love our blackness.we adore mother africa.
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@@marionrodriguez9035 wrong. We identify with our nationality and everything your saying is false because they teach it in schools.
@@marionrodriguez9035 yeah nah that's false lol I practice Spanish with a lot of afro Dominicans and just afro Latinos in general and they very much so appreciate their black skin (even though not all do but a good majority does)
Just because Dominicans in the Dominican Republic have that attitude doesn't mean that every single Latino shares their attitude. For example, Puerto Ricans in general seem very proud of their cultural a black heritage. Also, under the Cuban communist government, blacks have been treated very well and their cultural contributions recognized.
Gadiel, your dad is a gentleman. He speaks eloquently about his relationship with his own skin, he's comfortable in it. I appreciate when he says it's the other person's problem. Kudos!
Wish my dad would have taken the time to speak with me one on one in that way. It is really a blessing.
Just got my DNA test back, all my life I’ve been told I’m fully from Spain (Yo Soy De Puerto Rico) and I found out today I am 40 % black. Only 12 percent from Spain. It’s crazy to think the colonization from the past has re-wired my family’s and others brain to think we’re white.
So, not so white after all?
@@mariposaorofusionfoodchann7573 Puerto Ricans are not a race🤦♂️
@@lonewolf5973 duh, I know that! Read my replies properly.
@@mariposaorofusionfoodchann7573 if you're not Latino👽 why do you care?
@@lonewolf5973 The question is why do have a problem with me commenting? There are many people here who are not Hispanic and love this channel, so what's your point? BTW my grandma was Panamanian, and also this is about AFRO-LATINOS-People who have BOTH African and Latino cultures(Because that's what Latino is a CULTURE!). Lose being so defensive! Black Latinos should be able to embrace their distinctive side of the culture you would kill me for speaking about right now, that has contributed, (whether you want to acknowledge them or not) to the music, food, and in some respects the varied dialects of Spanish that y'all speak! If I were totally disrespectful and ignorant, I'd understand you coming for me-CHOOSE WHO TO ARGUE WITH! I will ignore any antagonistic reply from you! Goodnight!
"The greatest weapon in the hands of the oppressor, is the mind of the oppressed" - Steven Bantu Biko
Truth to power right there
Say it again for the people in the back please.
Especially when the oppressor can transform the oppressed into his image.
*the most dangerous place for a black person to be, is in the imagination of white people*
I like Pops, he's wise. I'm Black Latino from Guatemala, sadly my father who looks very much like your pops, is not as conscious.
U should listen to ur pops and other Elders. Being "black" dosen't mean u have African blood 🤷🏾♂️
@@macblack206 Yes, It definitely does
@@thelmathomas8414 maybe for u. But I know where my bloodline and culture comes from. Africa is not even close tho. Our government schools systems teach me/us that we're African slaves but our grandparents Told us we're Cherokee, blackfoot etc.
Who benefits the most from telling the lies of 🤷🏿♂️
@@macblack206, yes it does bro. Please don't be in denial.
@@macblack206 like the 5 tribes that were forced westward didn't own African slaves. And mate with African former slaves.
This guy better never get a dna test. It'll be like MTV's true life: im black. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I want to give Gadiel a hug. He guided that conversation like a champ
He really did!
I agree 100%
I’m Afro-Latino, a Dominican man and in love with my blackness. Love my hair and my lips and so much other stuff about me and my people. We’re amazing. Gadiels conversation with his father reminded me a bit of my conversation with my mother. Real quick back story: for the longest time I was the only person that I knew had hair like mine in the family, my father was always bald and mother always had straight hair when I was growing up. A couple years ago mother decided to do a big chop and regrow her hair and it’s curly. With some added time the hair grows and it curls up just like mine and I was happy that I definitively know where I got my hair from. But I spoke to her about the hair and why is it curly now but straight back then and she said that it was her mother, my grand mother that would straighten her hair any chance she could :/ and she just kinda stuck with the habit until a little while ago. Glad that’s over though
You’re definitely handsome 😍
You are not Afro latino your tri racial average Dominican
@@Xenlacasa45 How you gone tell that man who he is? Smh he know and told you exactly who he is! His parents and grandparents are Afro Latino so he can identify as black, you’re just mad and don’t want anyone to be black!
@@Poo531 nope he’s Dominican. Dominicans can be black but they are dominican first. Afro latino is a new label with no national identity. Every latino is different you can’t just group us all into 1 group. A black Nicaraguan has nothing in common with a black Dominican or a black Honduran.
@@Poo531 an Afro latino looks more like Ronald Acuña jr from Venezuela or David Ortiz. This guy won’t be confused for black anywhere in the world let’s pull up that dna test 😉
From a Black man,
We love you our Afro Latino Brothers and Sisters.... That's why we've always kicked it with y'all since the crib!!!
Since the crib? What year did that crib appear?
@@radrook7584 are you even from the hood?
@@radrook7584 yeah you just eliminated the doubt you're a white troll
This was really healing. Eso en verdad es lo que necesitaba. Soy una persona negra siguiendo en la lucha 😂😂🇵🇷🇵🇷
Adelante! ☺️
Y no estás sola.
juntos seguimos adelante, Boricua!
La lucha para nsotros los Hispanos en los Estados unidos no esta limitada a los blancos de este pais. En muchas occasiones, los negros de este paise se juntan a los blancos en hacernos la vida bastante dificil.
Being black is beautiful. Out of chaos and trauma, comes love.
Colorism is ridiculous...
Armando Problemas stfu troll
Being White is beautiful. Out of chaos and trauma, comes love.
Anti-White-ism is ridiculous...
💖💖💖💖💖
@Armando Problemas Because society constantly tells us we're not beautiful. We need to remind ourselves every day.
@@InfoLunix Interesting question. Also, Colin Flaherty's videos on this subject on UA-cam, Minds and Bitchute.
My grandmother on my moms side would always tell me "we're white" when i was about 5 i told her she might be but im not, she got so mad! My mother is super dark her father (who she never met) was black and she would be ashamed of it. my brothers black wife built me up by telling me black and brown is beautiful and i didnt need to straiten my hair because my skin and curls were beautiful. Im so glad she did that, cus now at 35 im able to tell my daughters their brown skin and curls are beautiful and to appreciate them, women pay hella time, money and perms to get our tone and texture. I let my mom know she is a beautiful dark skin women her melanin keeps her looking young 💗💗 we are beautiful and strong me gente! Los amo 💪🏾👑👌🏾💗
Well theres a chance you can be if you that in the picture you look euripean mix with some black...spanords are white too you know that right ???
@@staysolid5542 please clarify your point. Do you disagree with her saying that she is not White?
T Feliz well look to my knowledge as far her profile picture i need to know her nacionality of her parents or grandparents at least ...why ? Because it can all have a differences because for example ...theirs a differences between the caribbean,mexico,central america & south american “ nacional “ people because all of this countrys have as far as soil same native american history as principality ,as same type of immigrants that mivdated to those country & most imporant thing its that all ofthis countrys had different ending dp to the wars outcomes ...and so some of us can be more white,more black,more asian,or more native american ... so thats why i need to know her nacionality backround of her or family to have an idea ...because like that i can know abit more closer to have an idea what is her descedantsy ...i know majority of caribbeans are white or black descedants thats mix,and mexico most are native descedants thats mix , central america most are native descendants & as south america hold least peru,bolivia,ecuador the mostnative descedants ....
T Feliz so also i would need to see more family members because some other can give me a read if they more whire,black,or native to know their descedantsy blood line & around how much % of each thing they might have in them now .
T Feliz You can have a mexican looking more white but some can be holding like 30-90 % native american looking white ,this only happends with mexicans and central american not caribbeans ..the caribbeans when they look more white then thats what they will have in their DNA if they look more black they will have hat also highly or more ...Some mexicanscan look also white and also have white blood highly or dominate in them so that shows white descedantsy befor the mix in them ...so if she caribbean looking like she do she will have more white then black with abit female native american blood left in the island and lowerin as hey go ..but still white descedant .
Gadiel, even though it was meant as an insult, your dad should have been proud to be likened to Patrice Lumumba. He was like the Mandela of the Congo :)
It's crazy to hear this but such a reality. My parents are both from Cuba. Both have mixed ancestry. I can say i am proud that neither taught me to deny my heritage. Our culture is a loud display of African heritage and to deny that is denying one's self. Hope others see the light and accept the beauty of all aspects of their heritage, especially that which comes from Africa.
Black Cuban in the house too
🙋🏽♀️💁🏽♀️🇨🇺
@@lester2588 🇨🇺
The Cuban culture is so African based, it makes no sense that some can be self hating!
@@mariposaorofusionfoodchann7573 You'd be surprised though. Dominican and P.R. culture has heavy African influence as well and yet those individuals exist. It does with Cubans as well, it's just less pronounced with us, at least in my own experience. Growing up in NYC i never met a Cuban who didn't understand or know their roots.
@@lester2588 bro, you could be Haitian too! Cuba is 62% black and their second largest spoken language is Haitian creole.
As a Zimbabwean I always wondered how other black people from other parts of the world experienced racism. This is an eye-opening video and has given me a better understanding of the black experience in Latin America.
I cried watching Gadiels conversation with his father. We have the same mentality. We question the reason we adore the ppl that enslaved us and try to be them. Feeling lost when it comes to our heritage, because it's been erased.
Im an African American. Idk what you ate but imo its kinda harder for Latinos because they are so highly mixed often. With African American for the most part you were seen us Black and sometimes "Colored" (aka Biracial) back during Enslavment. But most White Americans called you Black and that was that. So I feel we kinda have a specific identity to grab on to, racially. Whereas Latinos get the "We're a Mix of all the Three, the end" story told to them, but what happens when you get older and learn that the Europeans were oppressors or when you interact with Whites and they just don't seen you as equally human, like your White European ancestry that you family also talks about (aka " We're Spanish from Spaniards") means NOTHING to White people who aren't ethnically Latin
It's pretty sad what race has done to this world. It's nothing but unwarranted fear, ignorance and insecurities. It really speaks more about how that person feel about themselves then what it says about you.
@@jorhodes8507 yeah......some people ACTUALLY think their races are superior to Blacks
Very true. Only idiots will allow to be erased.
@@13579hee I agree, in America you are or non black and that made sure we understood since slavery. Of course there was some mixing but it didn't change their views about. I noticed that with biracial people,. If they are half of both why do you still call them black?
This hit me so hard. My grandmother migrated on the 70's she's half Haitian and she looks just like a Afro-American she went through hell in the USA. And she always saids you need to marry up improve the race " meaning get together with a lighter skin person." Or you're dark you need to make sure you need to go to school because you're not pretty.
"Mejorar la raza?"
A lot of Latin countries designed to whiten their countries (google Pres. Trujillo and blanqueamiento). I think maybe the descendants of that carry those mindsets with them.
Wow 🤦🏽♂️ my grandpa was racist against black, yet.. His wife was brown skin and has African features.
eno c aquaowo exactly!!
"mejoramiento" is such a pervasive thing in latin communities. There's so much denial, internalized self-loathing and fear and shame around blackness, ESPECIALLY in the Spanish Caribbean. It's taken me years to reflect and work on undoing the damage within myself from my own experiences, even within my own family.
Girl i feel you! I am Afro-Arab, my dad and family always say marry up to improve the race, which really fucked me up.
I happy to see this, I'm a black woman. One day me and mom was in the store, we passed 3 black men, they started to speak Spanish, my mom said I thought you were black. They said no we are not, I told them, if close your mouth everyone see a black man
Your mom is ignorant, and they are not just black. That's what they meant.
Maybe she grew up in an area that doesn’t have Latinos and Latinas
No need to be mean
Sharing is how we all grow and learn
@@g.pearson4726 im not being rude. Its very ignorant.
@@fesahrollins9645 that's definitely not what they meant and you know it
@@liyahposts7808 from my knowledge thats what I know. They are mixed ppl not just black.
I love all my brothers and sisters, but we have to cut the bullshit in regards to the features we praise, especially out loud. Light eyes, lighter hair, lighter skin. We have kids looking at themselves and wanting to look different. My daughter is Mexican/Puerto Rican. She is a bit darker than both parents because there's such a beautiful mix running through her (white euro, Taino indians, African, and mestizo). She always expressed to me that she wanted to be lighter and have my color and straight hair like me, but I told her no, I wanted hers. Everytime I'd dress her and do her hair I'd remind her that she's been kissed by the sun and love had twirled her hair around its fingers. I want her to look at herself and love what she sees and not let anyone distort her feelings on that.
That "bettering the race" comment is very prevalent in the Hispanic community, mostly amongst elders . As a Mexican growing up in NYC, in such a diverse community I was always met with opposition to dating outside of Mexican. BUT when my brother was bringing home a white woman he was better received than if he would've brought home a PhD 🤷🏻♀️
“ kissed by the sun and love twirled her hair” awww I love it . As a Mexican female with dark skin and curly hair I appreciate this, we are all beautiful and unique ... and yes we need to teach our youth to embrace their own unique characteristics, if not the world will teach them otherwise
@@kimbaa.g.4038 You're absolutely right beautiful! I think that's something we need to hear nonstop at a young age. We also need to hear why and what makes us beautiful so we pass it on so our kids understand looks aren't the only criteria and they can learn/teach self love.
Your words of affirmation to your daughter was so poetic
it is very unfortunate that people let their lack of self confidence run their lives. this is true more so for kids but even still many adults suffer from it. this mentality is what creates the desire to be the "cool kids" at school. this is something that is learned and it can be reversed with good mentoring. good on you jenn for trying to reinforce a healthy mentality.
Jenn Reb: That's because Mexicans embrace Whiteness.T.V. Novellas, fashion magazines, beauty magazines.Seen any darkskinned people with lead roles on T.V.novellas on Televisa? T.V. Azteca?You even have brown skinned Mexicans wanting the blue eyed blonde haired girl here in the U.S.One dude told me he would even take a white girl that was mentally slow.Just as long as she is white.
I'm so thankful that my dad (whom is Dominican) never glossed over or tried to ignore our roots, my siblings and I have always known of our African ancestry and never shied away from it. But I also know alot of other people that either never was taught or knew but chose to distance themselves from it. Tbh I never understood the desire/want to be white.. no offense to any white person.
PRDR KING it shouldn’t be offensive to any white person cuz. I agree with you. People just need to be proud of who they are and not change
Much love bredda
Because in their minds, being white comes with privileges.
Especially when just looking at them they CLEARLY are NOT white....I never understood that, very confused when I discovered the phenomenon. I'm starting to, It's a mindset.
@@diamondgodisis5367 Lol facts. There's been many people with that warped mindset, but got a rude awakening when one of their alleged white brethren showed them exactly who they are in their eyes. They can fool themselves all they want too but society and life will sometimes give you a crash course in wake tf up 101.
I’m glad this is being talked about. My first serious relationship was with a Puerto Rican guy. His grandma hated me. I never got why. We constantly got into it because she didn’t want us together. One day I said something like, “But you’re Puerto Rican!” And she replied, “I’m Puerto Rican but I’m a WHITE Puerto Rican.” It blew my mind. I’ll never forget it.
Omg what did you say after she said that? 😭
@@Khapresha nothing. I was dumbfounded. I was only 16 or 17. She went on to tell me he’d never marry me. That he was going to marry a White girl and give her blonde haired, blue eyed babies. He moved in with me shortly after that and I never saw her again. We stayed together until we were 24. I’ll never forget it though.
@@lfreespirit I’m nosy but I had to find out how the story ended lol. That’s so sad that another human could say that to someone else. Especially when y’all loved each other :(
There are definitely Puerto Ricans of that kind. I have been the target of some of them. But I have also been the target of African American unforgettable racism.
@@radrook7584 very brave because tha majority doesn’t accept it.
I am not Afro-Latina, but I am Mexicana. Still to this day I remember my mom telling us that dating a "negro" was not good for the race and that we needed to make it better by either dating another mexicano or another white person would be fine (Depending on their background). My grandfather did say that we do have some ancestry of having African blood and is more common than one think, just latino families trying to forget that part their ancestry. Is like Gadiel mentions," es para mejorar la raza" . This is something that needs to change in the Latino community as a whole and should embrace it instead. 🙌🏽
Same, the family tries to tell us that we are white but like my grandfather is definitely very black and indigenous mixed.
Wow. But it was ok to date people that actually would have hated your family rather than a black person.
Gigi Razo: The idea of "mejorar la raza" is still believed in the Mexican culture today. In Mexican families if someone dates a black person they will get told by another family member. Friends even tell other friends if they notice them dating a black person.
this video brought me to tears. Dominican history has been plagued with the erasure of our blackness and the romanticism of what happened to the Taínos without honesty while glorifying our oppressive ancestry. My father grew up in the Trujillo era and his worldview on blackness was heavily affected by Trujillo’s own self-hatred. My maternal grandmother, a black Dominican woman, lived with the trauma of anti-blackness in the culture, encouraging my mother to think through before she married a black man and used her own blackness as an example of what to avoid, lest her kids look like her. Every time i think about it, my heart shatters. I never got to meet her but to know that such a beautiful woman was conditioned into thinking her blackness made her uglier or lesser than and that it was something that needed fixing.
This was such a blessing for me, I can’t even put it into words. This is a time for us as Afro-Latinx people to reclaim our stories, our heritage, and ALL of our roots. It’s empowering and humbling all at once.
Haitian grandmother. What's crazy he used to practice Voodoo with her. Brother was messed up: bleaching with talcum powder, old School method to stay white. Like Dracula, he hated the sun.
First of all it’s latino not latinx please respect our culture. We do not say americanx. Another thing what oppression did black dominicans go through during trujillo era ? Trujillo only killed Haitians not black dominicans.
Im very white passing Latina. My brother is even more white than me with a dark blond afro and blue eyes. No one ever told us we were part African or Native American until we had the DNA tests. My family is still in denial of the tests. :(
Melissa Pandas well you can be white & blacl mox what nacionality is your family and you ??
Melissa Pandas what ever yall have mayority in your family DNA is what yall descedant from befor the mix ..alot of people that think tjey native they turn to be white or black mix majority in them that shows them being white or blacl dedcedants tjats mix with abit native they got then by mixing with nix people that can still be white or blacl dedcedant mix with abit native and bever had been native descedants is just nAtive blood some people have do to the left native blood flows andnlowering in that country
Passing? Well, from the USA racist 1 drop slavery rule, yes perhaps in your case that might be true. However, not all white Latinos are to be assumed to be passing simply because of being culturally Latinos. That is a very popular USA Anglo Afro assumption that is completely out of kilter with reality.
BTW Many Anglo Americans have black ancestry and mark White on the census regardless.
Gracias, Alexis y Gadiel por hacer esto. Truth be told, I am Venezuelan born and raised, came to the US six years ago and only through content like this created by Pero Like I was able to start questioning myself and start digging into my roots, to open up these types of conversations with my parents, partner and latino coworkers, and make peace with and be proud of my afro-latinidad. After that internal healing process, now I have been able to raise awareness and educate my people about our origins, and I will continue doing so. So you, raising your voices changes lives, please don’t stop!
I love these conversations! I’m a black American, former educated in Kentucky at a High School in Louisville, KY. The Cuban, Dominican and Rican youth use to tell me how they wanted to be black. I use to laugh at them, because being from the south they just look like another black child, this was in the late 90’s and I was in my 20’s. Now of course of understand they were all told they ancestors were from Spain. I gave them some African history but it’s up to the African diaspora community to open up and be proud of their blackness. We are the culture.
I’m from Louisville. I was in high school in the 1990s. Interesting story.
Sadly, many so called latinos don't even know they originally spoke HEBREW and that they descend from the biblical Israelites which consisted of 12 Tribes. Later the Israelites broke into 2 Kingdoms. The Northern Kingdom (called Ephraim), which carried TEN TRIBES and mixed with the other nations, and are the latinos of today, were cast out while the Southern Kingdom (called Judah) which didn't mix as often remained during the time of the ROMAN EMPIRE.
In terms of mixing with other nations... here is what GOD had to say about EPHRAIM, also known as The Northern Kingdom of Israel and also known today as Latinos ...
KJV- Hosea 7:8 Ephraim, he has mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is *a cake not turned.*
A cake NOT TURNED is light on one side... DARK on the other. This describes the physical state of latinos. Literally using eugenics to erase your true identity. The bible even shows how your people traveled to find the Americas...
Read the King James Version 1611 bible and go to the book of 2nd Esdras...
ATTN: THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT HISTORICAL EVENT OF YOUR PEOPLE
2 Esdras 13:40 Those *are the ten tribes* , which were carried away prisoners out of their owne land, in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria ledde away captiue, and hee caried them ouer the waters, and so came they into another land.
41 But they tooke this counsaile amongst themselues, that they would leaue the multitude of the heathen, and goe foorth into a further countrey *where neuer mankind dwelt*
42 That they might there keepe their statutes, which they neuer kept in their owne land.
43 And they entred into Euphrates by the narrow passages of the Riuer.
44 For the most high then shewed signes for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed ouer.
45 For through that countrey there was a great way to goe; namely, of a yeere and a halfe: and the same region *is called Arsareth.
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46 *Then dwelt they there vntill the latter time;* and now when they shall begin to come,
NOW HERE IS A LINK to the Jewish Encyclopedia where they keep a record of this...
www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1867-arzareth
PUT ON YOUR CRITICAL THINKING CAP...
If these so called Jew-ish people KNOW that Israelites came to this land first... why don't they boldly make the claim that Jew-ish people are the first NATIVES?
Its because they know its YOUR PEOPLE and can be easily proven. They keep many truths for their records so they can know what NOT TO TEACH YOU... or reveal to you.
@@arrellehnisrael8229 all that israeleti crap ignored history on that island in favor of biblical shit
It was so beautiful watching her getting choked up about having her mother tell her how beautiful her curly hair was at home because she did not get that anywhere else.
I'm Mexican and I was the darkest in my family. Everyone in my family pointed it out, I was always made fun of for it. I think colorism exists in Mexican families too.
It exists everywhere
Alot of mexican are white descedants & most aint but alot of native descedant ones wishto ve white ...Im mexican and i love to be mexican & i mean for the fact i love my brown skin & my native fearures and look more native i love the culture ,spirituality & my native ethnical group thats not all that nor not all unatractive is right good because i dont get discriminated as much as other type of native ethnical natives.Yo soy orgulloso ser nativo es loque soy mas en general en mi vida.in my family we most like being native we proud of it.Just for some my father & tios hold long hair braids.we natives from the north .a mexican should be native not white and is people of long hair not the european identity they put for us as tipical,or as if was the principal idenity mexican should have ...No brown is beautiful & the culture is deep.
I especially loved Gadiel’s interview . If your dad only knew history back than he would be proud to called Patrice Lamumba . This is why is crucial to empowering children with knowledge.
I like the way he pronounces Malcolm X "Malconex" lol
Gadiel saying what our would ancestors think about being desperate to associate with the people that enslaved them really resonated with me. We need to fix ourselves and our thinking.
This is so true as a mestizo my parents like to claim spain more even we are mostly native we need to claim our native and black more because that what we mostly have in us
I know right. Tell me about it Im Garcia too. My dad once said you're Spanish too thanks to your grandma side and not recognizing we are indigenous MX descendent
26alexther in the us u gotta be 20 percent native to identify as native I told my dad we were native cuz we were mostly native and he said we weren’t because our last name was Garcia like wtf
EXACTLY!!!
Agreed!
@@DanielGarcia-pw9oz But then they turn around and say if you have one drop of African you have to pretend you're 100%. The Native blood quantum thing is all about trying to deny the existence of Natives so they can grab the land and resources.
When I was younger, I really thought it was because you all hated us but it's really breaking my heart to see blackness so unaccepted in all communities. This made me happy to see the generations come together and talk about such a sensitive topic
I'm a black girl, descendant of slaves so I definitely understand the desire of wanting to know where I come from. I also don't speak a lick of Spanish but this conversation was beautiful and enriching. When we all quit dividing ourselves and see that we really are family, then will great things happen.
Jesus said that the only family he had were the ones who did the will of his Heavenly father. Gradually under the relentless and unmerciful bludgeoning of bitter experience, I have come to appreciate the wisdom in those words.
This one really brought tears to my eye. To hear Gadiel talk about how our ancestors must feel knowing their descendants praise the colonizers whewwww...... and not knowing and honoring the African languages spiritual traditions and customs that got me because that’s what all black Americans feel too. The real terror of colonization has many heads but one particularly problematic one is the erasure of a whole people’s stories and the sacred act of spreading those stories down the lineage. I’m so happy to be part of changing that narrative in this generation and it’s so refreshing to see y’all on that same energy many blessings to you all. Like the elders say god bless you!
you don’t praise yt americans the way latinos praise spaniards though. It’s not that great of an equivalency
Strange. You are not referring to us Puerto Ricans, right? I mean, I was raised in New York and New Jersey among Puerto Ricans. And my parents and rest of my family are Puerto Ricans and I never heard any of them praising Spaniards in the way you describe.
Quite to the contrary, my grandmother told horrible stories of abuse involving Spaniards in Puerto Rico to my mother and she passed them on to me. She repeatedly classified them as evil. Of course, I don't know how it is with Dominicans. Do they constantly praise Spaniards? We don't.
Im African American and I really appreciated this video. I've known people Afro Latinos who are from PR, Dominican, etc and they rarely claim or identify as being black. And videos like this really show that we're more alike than different and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging and embracing ALL of where you come from. And I appreciate Gadiel for being honest and saying he doesn't know anything about his African roots and it bothers him. So heartwarming to see this.
Gadiel and his father’s voices sound so similar
I was thinking the same, I thought Gadiel was imitating for a moment LOL
genetics Lupe genetics...
Me watching the pictures of Alexis mom and her siblings trying to figure out which is the “dark” one
its the features that is code word for " dark" . i am familiar with that speak
Ok! Because her mom, aunt and grandma looked like carbon copies of each other to me. Crazy that there was still colorist talk going on. Alexis’s mom really seemed to have a good handle on things though.
Same here. A day in the sun and the sister will be darker or vice versa. 🤔
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Lechiffresix six her and her sister have the exact same facial features
I love this, this is a conversation that needs to be had in the Afro-Latino & African American communities.
@Lola Torrez shut your racist ass up
I’m African-American and Puerto Rican and growing up I was raised on my mother’s side (Puerto Rican) so I became familiar with the culture, food, music, etc. And occasion I would spend time with my father’s relatives (African American) but I’ve always embrace my blackness on both sides
It’s so sad Dominican Republic is very colourist :(
So true 😥
But it’s not only in DR, but also in cuba, puerto rico, colombia etc. i watched a doc about racism in the caribbean that explained all of this, it all comes from the white man
Thank Haiti for that
@@juandavidrestrepoduran6007 Explain because I've known Dominicans having issues with Haitians. Alot discrimination and it's the same island.
Mos Bella ask Dominicans why... the historical origin of that is definitely Haiti's fault
I absolutely loved this. Both these parents spoke so earnestly and beautifully. These are the kinds of conversations that need to be happening at home.
I’m a black American and I can relate to how we are treated. I know the older generation we’re crazy about having light skin . It seems to be getting a little better in our community . Much love to you all . Stay strong
Yo bruv I can agree with that,being from a predominantly light-skinned family.
Opp Boy Putt yea my grandma side had some very light skin and very dark skin relatives . But it wasn’t a big deal with them unlike some other relatives.
Brown paper bag test... The lighter you were, the better your opportunity. The darker you were you worked as a mami or maid.
How is it harder for black people in this country please explain???
@@isaachawk4460It’s 2023 how many black presidents? Vice Presidents? CEO’s and HUMAN RESOURCE DPTMT? I rest my case. We have it bad because of systemic racism and systematic racism in corporations
I just want Gadiel to knownits ok to be angry, not bitter, but being angry is ok.
As a black man with a Puerto Rican mother this is a REALLY interesting conversation to hear✊🏾
It is really a pleasure to observe a father and a son communicating it that loving way. A privilege I never had and never will, unfortunately.
My mentality was so jacked-- at home, I was the "negrita" child with the darker skin, but I had blondish hair, but I went to a predom. Black school where all the kids would call me "White girl" and didn't feel accepted, and constantly would have to defend my Afro-Latinidad to kids up until Jr High. For a long time I accepted my "Blackness," loved my father, but resented it because the Black community did not accept me. It wasn't until High School that I really felt validated in my identity and fought for it with conviction.
@Brownsugar M are you really?
I was called oreo as a Jamaican American girl.
@@Lindamorena Oh you got the too? I eventually opted out of this race classification system. I embrace all of me. I'm a mixed person of predominantly African ancestry and that's just the truth of it. I'm not acting any way to please any one. Funny thing is I live more African culture than the people calling me an oreo!
Thats happened to my lil brother
@@TRUTHTEACHER2007 so should African Americans call themselves "Mixed"?
This conversation is SO important. As someone who's mom is a lighter-skinned Puerto Rican and father is African American so many of these issues came to light growing up, considering I had long thick curly hair and brown skin. When you look at my Puerto Rican side, my family has people of all colors (which is why Puerto Ricans are considered a rainbow race). This conversation needs to be had so we can be even more proud of who we are and CELEBRATE that. We are ALL beautiful!!!
PR is not a race
@@maglifetraveltv8691 She's referring to Puerto Rico being a mesh of different races. Hence "rainbow race." It's just a play on words.
@@maglifetraveltv8691 its an expression I've heard used by many Puerto Ricans referring to their heritage because of the mix of Taino, African and Spaniard blood resulting in Puerto Ricans being many different colors.
@Maria Holt absolutely! We have to embrace where we come from so that way the next generation doesn't struggle the way we did! change begins with us
This reminded me of my grandmother. She used to say " hay que mejorar la raza" She didn't like dark skin. The poor lady liked to brag about having Spanish ancestors. I didn't know her views about people affected me the way they did. I never liked my brown skin. My mother never thought me how to love myself, specially my curly hair and my skin color. I love and accept myself now. I have I don't make the same mistakes with my children.
"Mejorer la raza" is the reason why some of us have made the sad choice of separating from our Latin roots. It seemed as if we were always "too dark" to be Latino(a). We were forced to choose between being black and latino when we were/are both. Even Trujillo wore makeup to make himself appear lighter, it was no secret.
Heard he also had Haitian blood. don't know who's worst him or his idol Hitler.
@@univeralafrikan Haitian grandmother. What's crazy he used to practice Voodoo (Vodun,Benin) with her. Brother was messed up: bleaching with talcum powder, old School method to stay white. Like Dracula, he hated the sun.
Real tears over here. This channel helps me so much😢I never had this identification growing up or sense of pride growing up in being both. It was so confusing and hard. I have been called a watered down Latino by a Latin man because I am mixed and don’t speak Spanish. I have been told I was privileged by being lighter in the African American community. It always just felt like a sense of opposition on both sides. For someone who loves everyone and just wants to be seen as me..this channel helps so much.
You are ok girl. Did you parents don't speak spanisch to you?
Nalelu thank you..no my mom is African American and my father tried more to be Americanized than Puerto Rican. I didn’t see much of Latin culture at all..I feel like i am playing catch up
I know how you feel. I'm Latina and i can speak spanisch but here in Europe aren't that much of Latin people, so i feel i can't appreciate my culture. But it's ok for me because when i have kids i would build and appreciate my own Latino culture!
ChenChan Lo Wow I'm the opposite. I never wanted to speak spanish with my grandmother. I just wanted to identify as black. It hurt my abuela feelings. As I got older I regret no speaking the language fluently. My spanish is very good now. My first and only tattoo I got says cuba because I'm very proud of my roots.
It’s never too late to learn!!!!! I promise you! Spanish is one of the easiest languages to learn. There are free apps to help! Listening to Spanish music w the lyrics and watching TV with the subtitles on can help (I actually do this to keep up with my Spanish) I’m a bilingual special ed teacher, and if you want free resources to help learn Spanish, I can give you a list! Please don’t give up! 🤗🤗🤗
I’m glad Latinos are waking up and having conversations. Shallowness is a cultural phenomenon in Latin America.
Cool! Alexis's brothers are twins! Its sad that they felt being black was wrong, and wanted to wash his skin.How strange though, that PR,DR, and to some extent Cuba deny their blackness, but have retained their African roots!
Haiti kicked out the Spaniards and French. Later, they imported Spaniards to inhabit the other side of the island because the whites wouldn't do business with them. The imports were to be the middleman.
Also, the natives of Haiti before the slaves were brought over and the island underwent colonization, were taino indians...
Even South america
@@HITSQUAD63 They only bring out the black people when it comes to World Cup.. Other than that generally ignored and they still use blackface "comedy" in certain countries.
Super interesting. Some of us practice Yoruba religion in the form of Santeria. Yet this was barely retained in the US.
I have learned that anyone of the African Diaspora, have kept the traditions in some shape or form. Our African ways kept our ancestors alive and continues to. Especially in our kitchens and dance halls 😆 LOL
Papí Gadiel is such a fountain of wisdom 🥰
He is also super adorable and seems super humble and genuine.
ROSIE PEREZ spoke PUBLICLY about this back when she was on "The View"
This dialogue is much needed. The amount of genuine transparency and love that these parents is beautiful to see. I know these talks are not always easy for parents and children to have. But it's important that these conversations are held earlier in life and continued. It breaks my heart when anyone with African heritage perceives it as a disgrace. Thanks again for the video.
I am African American and I appreciate this video and this channel. Some of us in the entire black community have been guilty of distancing ourselves from blackness and Africa all together. I love being black I love being African to me being called African is a compliment.
When I was in my twenties at uni my white friend met a girl from DR that look like Gadiel but more like Jon Secada but the girl said she wasn’t black. My friend was so confused and I had to explain to her that not all Caribbean people identified as black if they are light skinned especially Spanish speaking islands. She had my type of hair but it was permed. I never challenged people from DR though, we were all colonized differently. There is no confusion with me since I have tradition African features and have been mistaken as Ghanaian before😁.
I can't wait! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
THAAAAAAANK YOOOOOOU for ALWAAAAAYS REPRESENTING us AFRO-LATINXS so POWERFULLY by ALWAYS HONESTLY/ACCURATELY portraying the ADDITIONAL STRUGGLES/BARRIERS we have to fight to OVERCOME - DAILY!!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Glen Pierre Agreed! We have to exit that out of the conversational equation.
Latinx only used by gringos foh with this bs
I want to give props to all my Afro-Latino brothers all over the world..✊
A lot of denial in the Hispanic & Caribbean culture of the recognition of blackness but this is down to colonialism and the colour scaling
And lack of black history taught
Lumumba, wow, those kids who teased him were ironically giving him strength in that comparison. Hopefully, he later realized what Lumumba did with his life and those kids were definitely foolish and brainwashed on an extreme vibrational level.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FA THIS ONE! TURN IT UP!
LGO i was using ebonics... girl..
LGO and I was quoting a video... get out of my replies on that bullshit
15:35 I was excited when Gadiel's father started talking about Trujillo but I wanted him to speak more about the Parsley massacre that probably influenced anti-black sentiments.🇭🇹 🇩🇴
There were anti-black sentiments before the parsley massacre.Trujillo was anti-Haitian because he was anti-black.
@@rouskeycarpel1436 so then why didn’t he kill black dominicans too ?
@@rouskeycarpel1436 why did he bring african American players from United States to play for his team if he was so anti black as you claim ?
@@Xenlacasa45 dude, are you serious with that?
I feel like my story has also been erased. I cried when I heard you, Gadiel, say it out loud.
Thank you Gadiel and Gadiel’s dad for sharing your conversation, it was very enlightening
The girls mom, I understand her fears for her sons. But, she does refer to herself as not being white. But, still doesn't say black or Afro Latina.
Thats how it is in our Latin Culture, that's why this conversation is so important
She is still in denial. I feel pity for her and her family.
Well i don’t see her as Afro Latina, her kids are more so but honestly she looks like a stereotypical PR woman .. I don’t think she needs to claim that title
@@tiffaneyallen6171 Of course she is. Where would the kids get their dna? From mom and dad. And this lady is brown.
Yeahhhhh I noticed that.
I wanna hug Juana😪 . I'm black and her pain makes my heart hurt
l went to public school in the Bronx in the 70s ... the school system couldn't believe that I spoke English very well and was always taking me out of my class to give me tests (what?) what were these test to see if I understood and comprehend English ... I came out with flying colors but mind you ... born and raise in the Bronx, USA and I still have a puerto rican accent ... that's right! and I love it!
The term “mejorando la raza” is also heavy on the indigenous people, my dads side they always talk about how we need to better the race and that being higher amounts of indigenous is bad and not as cool as the so called more “pure” race, the same goes for my moms side who is African and European ancestory
Gadiel’s father is so eloquently spoken ❤️
When he mentioned the Trujillo regime, it was like that flashback gif of war.
Those were bad times in la Quisqueya.
Reading about him will make even the strongest cry!
Trujillo, on top of all his crimes like genocide, killing his enemies, often by his own hand, etc also found time to rape many, many women and also had pregnant wives of his enemies killed. Like where the f-- do you STOP bruh.
This was beautiful! Reminds me of conversations I tried having with my father, proud Puerto Rican, that didn’t go well. I imagined my father responding the way this gentleman did. God Bless him and the mother for being open, wise, and for sharing.
as pale as I am, after i did a 23andme test I came out to be almost 10% african. it wasn't until i asked that the family then finally acknowledge that we had a slave in our ancestry 5-6 generations back... I felt robbed. but not only that 3.7% native american.... so it happens to be the former slaved married a native american and then they moved to Cuba. I always felt drawn to the Yoruba religion back in the country, to my black neighbors, Spent so much time learning and loving a black granma from my block... as if my blood was telling me "this are your people too!".
I identify as Afro-Caribbean and our cultures may not be the same but these experiences have resonated me. This was heavy for me and hit a lot of pressure points but I needed this more than anything today. 😭
"I feel like my story was erased" - that hurt.
Well done!!!! from a Garifuna American aka Afro Latina
Whoop whoop! Big up!
Yo no soy garifuna no homdureño pero mis padres son Hondureños los amo a ustedes
@Jajai Arigaga - mi familia son Garifuna en Honduras: La Ceiba y Puerto Cortes
@@yayadolmo ah mis Padres son de Valle pero despues se fueron a vivir a Tegucigalpa a vivir mi familia de Honduras Vive en Valle tambien en Tegucigalpa y mis abuelos viven en roatan y yo vivo en New Orleans la cuidad en estados unidos con mayor cantidad de Hondureños en Los estados unidos poreso aca en ves de comida Mexicana encontraras rosquillas sopa de mondongo mucho platano frito baleadas etc
100% Garifuna!! Mom from Punta Gorda, Belize and my dad, from Puerto Barrios, Guatemala. I was born in Brooklyn, NY. I often have to explain my heritage to people from different ethnicities and cultures. We are a beautiful, unique, but often excluded culture. When people ask me where are you from? I usually tell them to guess and they will always name Caribbean countries such as Trinidad and Jamaica because of my locs. My parents did not teach my sister and I Garifuna nor Spanish. My mom spoke Garifuna, Creole which is broken English in Belize (similar to patois in Jamaica) and my dad spoke Spanish primarily and English. However he understood Garifuna. I am not sure what my parents experienced as immigrants in the 60s and 70s, but I remember my mom always telling my sister and I that we were born here in the States. I always felt I was in a class of my own because I grew up eating tamales, enchiladas, hudutu and rice and peas made with coconut milk. I listened to punta. Non of my peers in school ate this kind of food. They didn't understand my culture. We didn't celebrate Thanksgiving because back home as mom used to say Thanksgiving was not celebrated. To this day Thanksgiving is not a holiday I care for. No disrespect to anyone of course. I studied Spanish in junior high and high school and did well of course, but to date I do not speak the language. Both my parents have since passed on, but I always let people know I am a first generation american with Garifuna ancestry and our people were NEVER enslaved. I say that with pride and it is not to insult anyone whose ancestors have been enslaved. I ride for my Black, indigenous people. Anyway the first thing people notice and say when they see me is my brown skin and African features and I am proud! I am aware that many people have an issue with being called Black and I understand the term is a social construct, and the negative connotations attached to it, but I don't see it as such. My mom always said she was Black therefore I don't mind identifying as such. Needless to say I love this dialogue and I am glad to hear of Latinos embracing their African ancestry!!