I love the brother that understands that no all people from south America are Latinx. I love the brother that says I am indigenous! Nor do all people from South America or Central America speak Spanish! We speak many languages and represent many cultures but not all are rooted in Spain.
Colorism and racism within Latino communities needs to be talked about and needs to be acknowledged. Even in Mexico where the Indigenous and mixed population is high people resist acknowledging being Native. You’re worse for wear in getting anyone to acknowledge blackness even though without Africans we wouldnt have some of our most cherished cultural traits. I think about La Bamba, a folk song, which is super Mexican but originated from Africans in Mexico whose ancestors were West African.
You say that without Africans we would not have our cultural traits more presided? You say that without Africans we would not have our cultural traits more presided? Ridiculous 😂, You mean that black people are superior to others, so you support black supremacy, and that's racist, because other races and ethnicities also have beautiful cultures and a lot to offer, even whites, or do you think African culture is the only culture in the world?, xenophobic, and another thing, the bamba was taken from the indigenous roots of Mexico, because there are no Africans from Mexico, and they never brought Africans from the west, because in Mexico there are no blacks.
Learn history, African cultural traits are racist and supremacist, because blacks have become more racist than whites, and do not accept the heritage of other cultures because they believe that theirs is the only one and that it is superior, and especially in Mexico they never brought Africans from the west or anywhere in Africa, in Mexico there are no blacks, pig
In addition the bamba no longer exists, there is no artist who makes bamba and nobody talks about the bamba anymore in these times, now it is an extinct genre
To be honest with all people African Americans are not that concerned with this anymore because we are looking more toward our DNA that show use that we are children of shem and Ibrahim or ibo
I loved the interview! It's nice to see people talking about colorism in Latin America. I'm from Brazil and here it's a taboo to talk about how society still suffers from colonization race division. Nowadays, we see in the news native american people and afrodescedent people being killed by police brutality.
I totally hear 👂🏼 you and agree with you 💯, but in this discussion they are mainly discussing the colorism among Latin@s and descendants of Latin@s from U.S. communities, not necessarily direct in Latin America.
I'm Black, a military brat and knew two Puerto Rican families. We all lived on base in North Carolina and I used to hang with the girl from one of the families who was my age. while I was waiting for my friend, I had asked her mom Mrs. Uldanetta if she met the new Puerto Rican family down the block. She was like "Oh no honey they Black Puerto Ricans, I aint tryin to associate with that" I was floored! then her daughter Keisha came out and we left for school. She was the same complexion as them but her husband looked white, and Keisha who was a little darker than me...and her name was Keisha lol! Perplexing is right. That's when I knew there was Colorism with them just like it was with us.
Yes, and I wish that people would be more educated on the fact that "latinos" are made up of different races and ethnicities. If you go to any South American country, you will find that white people are the ones that are in power and control the wealth of those countries. Also, white skin is seeing as more desirable due to the hundreds of years of Spanish colonialism. Why would this mentality change once central and S. Americans migrate to the U.S.? The culture is just as racist as it is in those countries. I am an 85% indigenous South American and grew up with the sentiment that I wasn't beautiful because of my skin color and native feature. Models, actresses, even beauty pageant contestants were light skin and European looking. This is in a country that is made up of 65% Mestizos and 25% fully indigenous people.
This is so needed and beautiful this conversation made me cry as a black woman thinking about my brothers as black men and what they have had to suffer thank you so much for your honesty it has been healing and has brought a measure of understanding for me of my Hispanic brothers and sisters thank you Sony
Im american of African ancestry (descendant of chattel enslavement). I have dealt with bullying from black boys since I was a child, not to mention generation issues through centuries. And the aggression from black men who are also colorist under a American system.
I definitely have experienced it. I'm black Indian Irish & Scottish. I was told I was the darkest baby in the family and I'm close to Sunny's complexion. To darker people I'm high yellow🤔 Learn to identify with each other's humanity learn to support & help each other and share our experiences and learn from it. Our spiritual journey is where to start. Look at each other as a spirit in beautiful different colors of our creator.
As a child who joyfully invited a Raramuri girl to play, when she came seeking food to our home, and was painfully denied this longed experience by my tia who assumed the Raramuri child would infect me with lice.... as a woman who embraced danza azteca ceremonial almost 30 years ago and was led to the cosmic vision/wisdom/love of the indigenous people of this land, I am overjoyed to listen to this conversation. Zenka tlazokamati. Chicahuac!
Lo que hizo tu tía estuvo fatal, se merece que se lo hagan a ella, pero tu "danza azteca ceremonial" y toda la mierda de la visión cósmica, sabiduría ancestral etc etc tiene de indígena poco y nada. Invento europeo del siglo pasado y poco más.
Ku'wira ba,A bera ba bichíwari ju. Nejé Rarámuri ju ko, Greetings,It's certainly true. I'm Rarámuri. There is discrimination toward different ancestries Especially towards more Afro descendant people and more Indigenous, Tho actual indigenous ethnic people are out of the Latino/Hispanic cultural label group since indigenous have a distinct identity, languages, cosmology, history,traditions and customs that precede 1490's
Only if you realize how ironic his identity is If goes to Mexico nobody would consider him a Mexican but a Native American from the US doesn’t matter what he looks like, or what Mexicans look like, it’s what culture you practice what defines you.
He looks native,but really isn't. He has a little, and that goes a long way. Sometimes a quarter blood can look full blood,but is not. You will see alot of that on many reservations, even in mexico this is true. And I've always wondered why someone would want to be something people from the past thought of them as ugly and heathens.
I hung out with this guy from PR and he found out that my dad was black and then with a grin he said the “N” word. Then he claimed that white people here were racist towards him( he was a deep brown with straight jet black hair)! 🤦🏽♀️The irony of it all. he ended up going back to Puerto Rico
He’s black then, Puerto Rican isn’t a race. There are full on Afro Latinos… not all are light or brown we come in all shades and races/ethnic backgrounds
@@obatalaosun2222ahhaha, can't take your comment seriously. Without question it is a language brought by colonialism, but try to undue 500 years of a language tied in with cultura, and tell your grandmother, tia y tio to change their cursing from Pendejo o Pendenja to Pendex, just a bad example, pero they would look at you, and other Latin Americans trying to change their language, like get outta here. A lot of this came about because in the West the dominant culture is Mexican o Mexican American. That part of our cultural history will never change, and it is the dominant culture in Western states. Other latins have no been a part of our identity, and want to be a part of something, which today, is possible. Mexicams are very biased when it comes to race and culture. Verdad. Afro Latinos have always been there, but only until the last decade have made big waves in the music industry and now are being embraced, though hard as it may be for some, by members of the larger Latin community. The differences of race in our communities is a very real thing pero the change in the language, it's not going to happen. It's too ingrained and the LatinX thing is a US conversation, really no where else.
We can't forget the fact that America loves its Latinos to look Sicillian but overlook that fact Latin media loves their image to appear nearly Scanadanavian
@@19ars92 Who do you think FARC was killing indiscrimately throughout the 80s, the 90s and today in Colombia? Blacks/Afros Want more? Cause I can do this all day.
@@Sooopa_Doopa Oh that’s why they have Afro Colombians among them? Is that the reason why FARC was created for in the first place? To kill black Colombians? You can’t compare that to American white supremacist From all the countries in the world that banned Nazism Only the US and Ukraine opposed that. US has confessed racist mass murderers every year.
There is racism in us. We as societies survived and inherited Spanish colonialism that left as a sense of superiority towards the black slaves who became a part of society but, we were told, were less than us. Sadly, it's normal in Latin American societies to distrust blacks simply because of their color of skin. So, there is a lot self-study to be done to uproot these ideas.
It feels weird when someone doesn't accept your color no matter what you are it feels painful it feels you're not accepted why because your black or she's white
To the Afro Latina who spoke at the end thank you for your bravery in speaking about ONE of your many experiences. More African Latinos need spaces to speak up about all the racismo they face with latin America. I see it in my classroom all the time from even indigenous people.
As a light Hispanic person, this makes me feel so guilty. I never experienced any of this racism, not even from white Americans. I didn't know racism in the Latin community was this bad. It's pretty sad. It's a good thing to hear this, so we all wake up from experience of other people.
I'm a white Hispanic who grew up in the hood and I've experienced all kinds of racism from most minorities. There's no racism in Hispanic communities,these people are just sensitive/indoctrinated Hispanic Americans.
@Jasmyn Monet 🔮 Oracle of the West Obviously you didn't listen to what he was saying? He is Native who was adopted by whites. This is a discussion of " Hispanics " of color. There was not enough time to go into the details of everyones life. He made it clear that he is Indigenous. Chichimeca-Guamare is his tribal heritage. These people, our brothers are indigenous to Mexico. People like you need to respect true Native people. We don't need you to doubt our history.
As a black man, im glad this convo is being had. The latinx community is the largest minority group in the US, the colorism in the latinx community will be a HUGE issue in years to come IMO. Especially being that colorism is often goes hand & hand with classism & politics. I think at some point the US census will break the latinx community into 3 separate groups. Euro (White)/Afro/Indigenous.
Stop calling us latinx and pushing racial labels on majority mixed people. Take a good look at the mess gringos make here in the states 🤷 you should be learning from us
@Andrew C yeah maybe for you, black people are obsessed over skin tone. With whatever issues us Latinos have colorism is not one, (except for east coast black identified Latinos) my family like many other Latino families are mixed with different shades. We literally sit back and laugh at how Americans view race and color. You see when we mix, we make more Latinos. When whites/blacks mix they are diminished, and fight to claim people to one side or the other. We operate on completely different world views.
@Andrew C when people speak on Latino colorism its the same clueless troupe about Latin novelas. If that's our major issue we are light years ahead of Americans on a coherent identity outside of race.
@Andrew C Until Latinos in Latin america start dividing with racial identities (Latinos in Latin america do not even refer to themselves as Latino) they'll never be as divided as Americans.
Soy Mexicano- Americano con padres de Los Altos de Jalisco, my mother is a white light skin Mexican and my father is a Brown skin Mexican, therefore my siblings are a mixture of white or light brown. There is always going to be discrimination anywhere you go, but I tell my people not to fall in that victim mentality, you can be anything you want despite of the troubles that you have gone or are going through. I am an ex convict, ex gangster, and I also got beat down by the LAPD at the age of 16 years old and left the back of the police car covered with blood. I no longer hate the police, I understand today that I put myself in these predicaments, It was wrong, what they did, but I was not coming out of Sunday school.. I have changed my life at the age of 35, I am now 51, I own a home that is going to be paid off in 12 years, I own a couple of lots in Baja California and soon we are going to break ground and build a couple of homes, I opened up a beauty salon for my wife and I am co-owner with my brothers and sister and we employ 45 people. I have had the desire in my heart to do good in my life and I have accomplished it don’t talk to me about that there is no equality, I am living proof that there is equality. Being a productive member of society is not easy, that’s why people rather get handouts. Today I walk tall, brown, and with dignity. VIVA LA RAZA
I’m sad for anyone who has to live this struggle. I had to become an adult to appreciate the fact that my complexion, hair texture, and nose leave no doubt that I am AFRICAN American. Racial ambiguity can play hell with a person’s social adjustment(pro or con) self acceptance, opportunities, and discrimination (for or against). Will this country ever completely divest itself from this outdated mindset? The poison was so deeply rooted in a few remaining quarters long ago that even I (with my chemically straightened hair, big nose, barely average looks, but gold under toned tan complexion) have been chosen over an obviously lovely looking woman with dark skin and natural hair. An African American beauty! This began changing quite awhile back and is thank goodness, a thing of the past…I hope! 😢
I am going to be honest.. latinos all under one box is to the betterment of white latinos/ i don't want to erase me I want to be me. It is okay to be black latina with kinky hair, Or Asian latinos who go unseen, Or native latinos. Rather say see me as and individual and respect my diferences
Uh... no. There is no such thing as "white latino" or "black latino" or "Asian latino". "Latino" is a synonym for "Latin America" and as such Latinos are people who have Latin American ancestry/blood. Anyone in Latin America with no Latin American ancestry/blood is nothing more than a European or African living in Latin America just like there are Europeans and Asians living in Africa.
Great vid, I’m a Puerto Rican and racial identity has always been confusing and complex, so much so i did two Dna tests ancestryDNA and 23andme, my results were 66% european, 19% Native American and 15%African. It was crazy to see the breakdown. I personally identify as just mixed Puerto Rican. I never felt obligated to pick a race because i never identified with either. Latinos identify more with our culture or nationality vs race. With that said though I’ve never erased or denied my African blood even before i saw my dna results in full. I love the afrcan rhythms in our music.
I am not sure it is true that Latinos identify more with culture and nationality vs race. The disparity of treatment, acceptability and opportunity for visibly black Latinos is just too pervasive. Black looking Latinos labor under a great deal of racism and prejudice in the Latin world. My grandmother-in-law shed her Latin identity when she moved to the US in 1974. When we watched this together she said that when she moved here from Mexico. The culture shock was profound for her especially where race was concerned. She was living in New York and she for the first time saw black people doing things, and holding jobs that it would be impossible for a person who looked like that, who looked like her to do in Mexico. She worked at a fancy restaurant owned by a black man, with a black wife who had black children and she had a hard time believing he was really the owner. How can a black man, a black family be able to do such a thing. Why had he married a black woman? didn't he know better? Meanwhile when she went home her fellow Latinos were treating her as if she were dirty or a slut. Mexicans would say she could not be Mexican. She told us that finally she decided to just cross the line and leave the Latin world behind her so she could have a better life and she has a very good life. In America the racial group after whites with the most millionaires in it is African Americans. Nowhere in Latin America is that even close to being true. Phenotype racism in Latin America translates into lack of opportunity, and a generous amount of self hate piled at the door of Latinos who look even a little too black. refusing to see or talk about the issue maintains that status quo.
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NO NO NO... IF YOUR FAMILY MOVES FROM AFRICA TO THE D.R. DOSENT MAKE YOU LATINO.. YOUR BLACK FOLK LIVING IN A HISPANIC AREA. THEIR DNA RESULT WOULD SHOW AFICA
I like that-"we didn't cross the borders the borders cross us" Finally someone said it. I always felt like why don't Indigeous latinos FINALLY SAY THAT!!
I used to be so confused growing up, I'm Mexican American, my grandmother on my Dad's sides family was from Spain and Native American. I look Native American, a lot. My Mom's side was Mexican and probably Native American. I don't look Mexican, I look Native American. But you know what I'm still Latina, I'm still Mexican.
@@TheFearlessBabe MOST Mexicans and those of Mexican descent are European, indigenous, often Asian, AND Sub-Saharan African. The denial or minimalization of African DNA among Mexicans is one way colorism and racism manifests itself among Latinos and Latin Americans.
I'm so happy this space was created. I hope I can see follow up conversations. Sometimes I feel so alone in these issues as a black Dominican of Haitian descent, who has experienced colorism and racism. Whenever I speak up I'm told I am "acomplejada". That I have to work on my self-esteem because it's all in my head. Or that I am simply a Spanish speaking Haitian.
I’ve always found that dinamic with DR so perplexing because most ARE black ( I know not all and varies by region ) you would think they wouldn’t be that prejudice. I’ve seen very dark Dominicans calling Haitians Negros and Pelo malo and when you look at them saying that they’re just as dark and the hair texture is similar. It’s weird how race is seen with them. It’s like they assimilate more with their European ancestry even though they don’t look it and have less Euro Ancestry. I am assuming it has to do with the Cast system that was enforced on them and has caused generational trauma.
I enjoyed this video, very educational and enlightening. Seeing this caused me to reflect on two former coworkers. I worked with people who were Black and White. Both of these coworkers were brown-skinned like me and my other African-American coworkers. The man would often say that he was Cuban and the woman would often say that she was Mexican. Neither of these people were born and raised in Cuba and Mexico, respectively. That annoyed me because they would bring up their "identity" in conversations that had nothing to do with race and ethnicity. It was obviously their way of telling their White coworkers and managers, "Don't get it twisted. Just because I'm dark brown skinned, don't confuse me with those Black, African Americans". As the man in this video said, Mexican is a nationality. BTW, the woman who said that she was Mexican had one African American parent and one Mexican parent. The irony is that they knew that anyone who saw them would see them for who they were: two BLACK people!
The last 3 years I went on a journey of rediscovering my real identity. Religion and colonialism tore away who I was and I’m reclaiming it. I want the same for all my brothers and sisters. May people realize they have been affected by the terrible beliefs of the colonizing powers, that way they can find their freedom by discovering those lies and fight for the rights of all peoples. Proud to be Quechua/Aymara, native South American.
I feel blessed to have been born with very light skin for a person of Mexican heritage. My mothers side has numerous people with very light skin and its something kinda bizarre when put against my fathers side who all have more tanned, indigenous Mexican features. Just about everyone on my fathers side have tons of stories of racism, being denied jobs, automatically assumed to be illegals and asked for identification but they were all born in the US.
I hope that light skinned blessing works out for your children also. Since we are not working to make the skin color issue any better than it is now, it would be a shame for your kids to inherit your fathers families indigenous phenotype curse and be subject to the kind of abuse that they are.
Same here but my mother is the one who is dark native Mexican and my father is the white Mexican who left my crazy mother when I was a baby and I came out looking like my father thank God. And my older brother who is a afro -mexican because of his dark father I would say because of his dad curly hair when I saw of his father picture but not change the topic what I was going to say my older dark Mexican brother never like me and treating me really horrible and abuse me as little boy and my mother let him do that too and that drama following me until today and when growing up I never knew why he was mean to me but now it all point to my lighter skin color that I think he always jealous of but I still love him though .
Some of these conversations remind me of the daughter in Imitation of Life where she was happy not to look Black like her mom. It’s so sad to have this anti Black syndrome.
@@clementmckenzie7041 indigenous phenotype is not a curse, it's a blessing. However, what _is_ a curse is the *belief* that indigenous phenotype is "less than". I hope this is what you're meaning.
I was denied entering a Family Dollar when it first opened one morning, though Latino people were allowed in. The, "doorkeeper," to the store could have been my grandma. She was as Black as me, but she decided that I shouldn't come in because I wasn't Latina. When I asked, "La tienda abrieta?" suddenly, I was allowed in. Disgusting
Colorism is real just like racism only thing with colorism it's a universal thing especially in the black community & even in the latinx community going all the way back to the cast system race & color Europeans were pretty slick I must admit because this system still determines who you talk 2 who you bring home etc who you marry touche I admit 😠
@@Dominican1923 who said it was a race 😒 we know Latinos can be any color my people are from Guyana which is a country in south America that country language is English not Spanish so I wouldn't be Hispanic cause Spanish is not my first language but it's still a part of south America but colorism is real here just like any where else Hispanic is a ethnicity Dominican is your nationality
My nationality is American, yet my DNA is 100 % African due to my parents who came to America and birthed me. Knowledge of self is the key to having a good quality of life.
I am disappointed in this guy Haatepah Clearbear in denying his Mexican culture. You can be indigenous and Mexican at the same time, why choose one over the other. It sounds to me like he is ashamed of his Latino roots.
How tragic that Sean Arce and Hateepah Clawbear are either unaware or hiding the Africanness in Mexico and Mexican culture. They only refer to their indigenous roots: great but they (or, rather, Mexican or Mexican-descendant people) are not only indigenous and, as horribly as indigenous Mexicans might experience colorism and racism, Afro-Mexicans have been told by Mexican society that they don't exist and have been treated, even by indigenous peoples, as such. The idea behind that is, as difficult as it is to be considered indigenous, it's better than being black.
@@caraqueno yeah they could have African DNA but people don't see them as black. They won't be casted in a bio-pic movie of a slave rebellion, they would play the roles of your 'typical' latino.
@@caraquenoclearly if they had any it’s very small and irrelevant. What’s next, ur gonna be mad white Argentinians don’t claim their imaginary African roots too?😂😂😂
This conversation is so important and I love everyone's contribution. I would love to hear about their experience in corporate America. If there's a video tag me. Furthermore, I wish Blacks would stop thinking we are the only community dealing with colorism. I encourage all of my Latino people to speak up b/c your voice is needed! Peace & Blessings.
Just to add, there is colorism is also in Asian countries so probably the entire world. So many times I’ve seen Asian women bleach their skin for lighter whiter skin...mind blowing!
@ Michelle Ngome Blacks don't think their the only community that deals with colorism; Blacks are more vocal about colorism than other communities. This is an informative tip: Blacks were the ones that got colorism put in into the discrimination law . It wasn't in the law when it began. I wish people would stop interjecting the Black community into other communities problems
Most Latin Americans are not oh her complexion. Therefore, percentage wise, it makes sense to only have one. What is missing is a White Latino from South America who has no connection to Africa.
I know darkskin Port Au Rican amara la negra.. is the only dark skin latina I see on TV but the others are unsean .. even in these conversations.. one token dark latina.. but not darker then the paper bag
Amara she’s Cuban called herself la Negra , she’s hot , but not good actress , look at Lupita Nyongo she Kenyan /Mexican and she never talked about her skin color it’s what they bring to the table . Hard work & dedication
This video has made a mockery of him, because it's about the Latin experience. Native Americans in the U.S. no longer want anything to do with this man or his twin brother. It's been discovered that he's tried to claim being a member of various tribes, when questioned and looked into, it's been found out that he has lied and there is absolutely not relation to any tribal entity.
This conversation begs the old question, with all the Afro-Latino Actors/Actresses now available in America, why don't Afro-Latinos make their own movies like Black Americans do?
In truth, you rarely see afro-Latino actors or actresses working in any real numbers anywhere. Those who do get steady work are in roles as African Americans. The numbers and success stories really do not have the critical mass to be able to generate capital for that kind of undertaking. African Americans are the second largest group of millionaires in the United States and we have only begun to be able to tell our own stories in the past 15 years. Even so in a very limited fashion. to make what you suggest happen they would require a lot of support from the African American community. A community that is not really sure if the Latino community is in community with them when it counts. Time will tell.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Well, you know something? You make very valid points. The reason I'm very interested in such an undertaking is, let's just say, I have a very sympathetic spirit. We'll go more into that in a bit. Anyway, as far as I can ascertain in my mini research, it was Black America's Carter G. Woodson who initiated "Black History Week" for the month of February. Black leadership, intellectuals, press members, and others helped propel the idea that would eventually evolve with congressional political support into what we formally have today as "Black History Month". In the contemporary politico-cultural climate there has been an intentional expedition by many in the Afro-Latino community to consciously push the idea of celebrating Afro-Latino heritage in the month of February as opposed to the months of September - October: Hispanic Heritage Month. Thing is, yeah, I agree with your detection, "Even so in a very limited fashion. to make what you suggest happen they would require a lot of support from the African American community." Black Americans endowed in the arts with proven empowerment capabilities whom are conscious enough to detect "mutinous" behavior would be suspicious of assisting someone's community whom they feel may have the proclivity of charlatans in their psychological development as pertaining to their success story: if they either fail to give credit to where credit is due, or if they speak out contrary political ambitions that sooth say the true root of where the assistance began. I on the other hand, am hoping for a beautiful mutual love story. For my entire life, I grew up as a Black American, and my mind was always wired in the thinking of a Black American. Then again, I took a ancestry genetic test a few years back, and of my 3 genetic groups, 2 were Black American genetic groups; however, 1 is a Puerto Rican genetic group. It's confidence level is higher than 1 of the Black American groups. That shocked the mess outta me. The company informed me I have ancestors in Puerto Rico. The difference is, most Afro-Puertorriquenos know about it, but somehow, someway, something got broken in my family lineage, or for whatever reason hidden, or taken as no big deal, and it likely happened in the 1800's. That DNA 'marker' is still inside me. My fiance is Puerto Rican but we didn't know about me til after the test. It's almost as if a supernatural mutual genetic recognition happened that brought us together; yet, I grew up in a shared Black American - Puerto Rican community; therefore, I am no stranger to the Puerto Rican community as if I grew up in Seattle. Anyway, gotta run. Thanks for the comment.
@@TheFearlessBabe Interesting, you have the same last name as Natasha Alford. Anyway, that's very good. I just hope it either has English subtitles, or done in a way where it's understood by most communities. Thanks for the info..
@@TheFearlessBabe Also, there is "Colombiana" where Actress Zoe Saldana was given a lead role. The challenge is making movies where the viewer has a variety of subject matter to appreciate.
Everybody should be accepted for who they are, judged for what they do and not for what they are. Everybody has the challenge of proving others wrong and rising above the narrative of the background they come from. The reality is that people judge you for how much you work and how nice you are regardless of your ethnicity.
Colorism and racism within Latino communities needs to be talked about and needs to be acknowledged otherwise reprogramming of the brain will never happen.
I really wish they would stop calling himself Afro Latinos there’s no such thing of Afro Latinos.I am what you call a so-called African-American my people created the word Afro American We’re not Africans and you’re not Africans either that name Africa was created by the colonizers..we all were called by our tribal names. Dominicans are Haitians are the same exact people the white Dominicans are just biracial That would put on the land separate by themselves. My people the so-called African-American people has never come from Africa we’ve been on this land we were colonized and I’m sick of people calling us African or black that is not who we are we were colonized
Actually the original name of Haiti and DR is Quisqueya, Quisquellanos would be the correct term. They should claim it. In PE they’re know as Boricuas they claimed their OG identity
Which is ironic because most of them have similar hair texture except it may have 1 or 2 level less of kink and they act like they’re superior 😂 to other Latinos their hair is see the same way. You would think they would be more humble.
Calling yourself Hispanic and Latino, you’re still describing yourself as a European. Spanish is a European language. I’m glad he doesn’t describe himself as a Latino or Hispanic. He should call himself indigenous because he’s not a European. They keep saying colonized, your ancestors were enslaved.
I dated a Latina woman and man that’s when I realized how ubiquitous colorism was among their communities. It was sad to witness how Afro Latinos were treated at work,and l also witnessed how the indigenous people were treated from within their communities ie. The mistreatment of them as cleaners and also as nannies.(poorly paid)
@@FedericoT69 she has two identities , being that she is half Latin/Puerto Rican and half African American. She’s allowed to embrace both sides of herself, no matter how that makes you feel.
People also act like African Americans don’t have the most range when it comes to how they look from Steph curry ,Terrance Howard,to Wesley snipes ,Shaq
I love the brother that understands that no all people from south America are Latinx. I love the brother that says I am indigenous! Nor do all people from South America or Central America speak Spanish! We speak many languages and represent many cultures but not all are rooted in Spain.
We don't like the Latinx word smoke.
Me to, love me some him!!
The first goal of colonialism was to remove the indigenous people’s culture, language and knowledge of self!
Latino* fixed it
I agreed, not all people in south America are gay
Colorism and racism within Latino communities needs to be talked about and needs to be acknowledged. Even in Mexico where the Indigenous and mixed population is high people resist acknowledging being Native. You’re worse for wear in getting anyone to acknowledge blackness even though without Africans we wouldnt have some of our most cherished cultural traits. I think about La Bamba, a folk song, which is super Mexican but originated from Africans in Mexico whose ancestors were West African.
You say that without Africans we would not have our cultural traits more presided? You say that without Africans we would not have our cultural traits more presided? Ridiculous 😂, You mean that black people are superior to others, so you support black supremacy, and that's racist, because other races and ethnicities also have beautiful cultures and a lot to offer, even whites, or do you think African culture is the only culture in the world?, xenophobic, and another thing, the bamba was taken from the indigenous roots of Mexico, because there are no Africans from Mexico, and they never brought Africans from the west, because in Mexico there are no blacks.
Weirdo
Learn history, African cultural traits are racist and supremacist, because blacks have become more racist than whites, and do not accept the heritage of other cultures because they believe that theirs is the only one and that it is superior, and especially in Mexico they never brought Africans from the west or anywhere in Africa, in Mexico there are no blacks, pig
In addition the bamba no longer exists, there is no artist who makes bamba and nobody talks about the bamba anymore in these times, now it is an extinct genre
To be honest with all people African Americans are not that concerned with this anymore because we are looking more toward our DNA that show use that we are children of shem and Ibrahim or ibo
I loved the interview! It's nice to see people talking about colorism in Latin America. I'm from Brazil and here it's a taboo to talk about how society still suffers from colonization race division. Nowadays, we see in the news native american people and afrodescedent people being killed by police brutality.
I totally hear 👂🏼 you and agree with you 💯, but in this discussion they are mainly discussing the colorism among Latin@s and descendants of Latin@s from U.S. communities, not necessarily direct in Latin America.
@@marllon9786
His comment is still VERY relevant, ESPECIALLY in Brazil. Brazil is not a Hispanic nation but it is “Latin”.
We need more conversations about colorism in our community.
Thanks for sharing
Proud Central American (Honduras)
I’m seeing this just now, but it’s a welcome topic that needed to be had. I’m glad Sunny did this. Kudos to her.
There are a lot of missing phenotypes on this panel. The Black woman on the panel is so right about the Dominican salons.
Hm. I can see that. Theirs different tones and ethnicities that should be there.
Yea I’m not a fan of the Dominican salons they are not professional and they don’t listen
She's Afro Cuban 🇨🇺
@Pamela Alford she's afro Cuban 🇨🇺
They should've invited Amara La Negra the Dominican hip hop singer.
The Haitian/Dominican dynamic explanation was fire!
I'm Black, a military brat and knew two Puerto Rican families. We all lived on base in
North Carolina and I used to hang with the girl from one of the families who was my age.
while I was waiting for my friend, I had asked her mom Mrs. Uldanetta if she met the new Puerto Rican
family down the block. She was like "Oh no honey they Black Puerto Ricans, I aint tryin to associate with that" I was floored!
then her daughter Keisha came out and we left for school. She was the same complexion as them but her husband looked white,
and Keisha who was a little darker than me...and her name was Keisha lol! Perplexing is right. That's when I knew there was Colorism with them just like it was with us.
lol. I know right!! make it make sense!!
Why u writing their full name? SMH no privacy
Yes, and I wish that people would be more educated on the fact that "latinos" are made up of different races and ethnicities. If you go to any South American country, you will find that white people are the ones that are in power and control the wealth of those countries. Also, white skin is seeing as more desirable due to the hundreds of years of Spanish colonialism. Why would this mentality change once central and S. Americans migrate to the U.S.? The culture is just as racist as it is in those countries. I am an 85% indigenous South American and grew up with the sentiment that I wasn't beautiful because of my skin color and native feature. Models, actresses, even beauty pageant contestants were light skin and European looking. This is in a country that is made up of 65% Mestizos and 25% fully indigenous people.
Was her name Keishla and not Keisha? because Keishla is a common girl name within our community.
Yeah,but you can stop the cap.
What a wonderful interview! It touched my heart.
This is so needed and beautiful this conversation made me cry as a black woman thinking about my brothers as black men and what they have had to suffer thank you so much for your honesty it has been healing and has brought a measure of understanding for me of my Hispanic brothers and sisters thank you Sony
Im american of African ancestry (descendant of chattel enslavement). I have dealt with bullying from black boys since I was a child, not to mention generation issues through centuries. And the aggression from black men who are also colorist under a American system.
I love that man that was a model, I love hearing him speak he’s so passionate in what he is saying, I loved everybody that was on the panel
A fascinating conversation. Really enjoyed listening to everyone's thoughts and opinions.
This was a good conversation. Much better than I thought it would be. Good job panel.
I definitely have experienced it. I'm black Indian Irish & Scottish. I was told I was the darkest baby in the family and I'm close to Sunny's complexion. To darker people I'm high yellow🤔
Learn to identify with each other's humanity learn to support & help each other and share our experiences and learn from it.
Our spiritual journey is where to start. Look at each other as a spirit in beautiful different colors of our creator.
show me ur pic
I am a strong black man who is 100 percent black.
As a child who joyfully invited a Raramuri girl to play, when she came seeking food to our home, and was painfully denied this longed experience by my tia who assumed the Raramuri child would infect me with lice.... as a woman who embraced danza azteca ceremonial almost 30 years ago and was led to the cosmic vision/wisdom/love of the indigenous people of this land, I am overjoyed to listen to this conversation. Zenka tlazokamati. Chicahuac!
That was mean..
Danza azteca isn’t indigenous
Lo que hizo tu tía estuvo fatal, se merece que se lo hagan a ella, pero tu "danza azteca ceremonial" y toda la mierda de la visión cósmica, sabiduría ancestral etc etc tiene de indígena poco y nada. Invento europeo del siglo pasado y poco más.
Ku'wira ba,A bera ba bichíwari ju. Nejé Rarámuri ju ko, Greetings,It's certainly true. I'm Rarámuri.
There is discrimination toward different ancestries Especially towards more Afro descendant people and more Indigenous, Tho actual indigenous ethnic people are out of the Latino/Hispanic cultural label group since indigenous have a distinct identity, languages, cosmology, history,traditions and customs that precede 1490's
All of the guests where coming from the heart. Very very sincere and authentic
wow so I cried! Thank you for this conversation.
I love that man that claims Indigenoues. Often times many latino don''t claim that. He is sooo right!!! Love the way he thinks
Only if you realize how ironic his identity is
If goes to Mexico nobody would consider him a Mexican but a Native American from the US doesn’t matter what he looks like, or what Mexicans look like, it’s what culture you practice what defines you.
He looks native,but really isn't. He has a little, and that goes a long way. Sometimes a quarter blood can look full blood,but is not. You will see alot of that on many reservations, even in mexico this is true. And I've always wondered why someone would want to be something people from the past thought of them as ugly and heathens.
Lol talk about colorism not even 2 dark with 4c skin latinas.. the conversation.. it missing alot
Exactly there's so many dark skin black Latinos all over latin America they could have had more dark afro Latinos
wtf is 4c skin??
I hung out with this guy from PR and he found out that my dad was black and then with a grin he said the “N” word. Then he claimed that white people here were racist towards him( he was a deep brown with straight jet black hair)! 🤦🏽♀️The irony of it all. he ended up going back to Puerto Rico
You are gorgeous
There's BLACK afro Latinos.......
Latino ain't a race
He’s black then, Puerto Rican isn’t a race. There are full on Afro Latinos… not all are light or brown we come in all shades and races/ethnic backgrounds
Stop saying Latinx, it sound like a super hero from the X-Men
Woking a damn language. I hate the term.
Colonization of a language, just in the modern day. I have Mexican heritage and my grandfather's side of the family wouldn't accept that nonsense.
The spanish language is the FIRST colonial language. Changing it is part of the decolonization process. @@jasmineduran6731
@@obatalaosun2222ahhaha, can't take your comment seriously. Without question it is a language brought by colonialism, but try to undue 500 years of a language tied in with cultura, and tell your grandmother, tia y tio to change their cursing from Pendejo o Pendenja to Pendex, just a bad example, pero they would look at you, and other Latin Americans trying to change their language, like get outta here. A lot of this came about because in the West the dominant culture is Mexican o Mexican American. That part of our cultural history will never change, and it is the dominant culture in Western states. Other latins have no been a part of our identity, and want to be a part of something, which today, is possible. Mexicams are very biased when it comes to race and culture. Verdad. Afro Latinos have always been there, but only until the last decade have made big waves in the music industry and now are being embraced, though hard as it may be for some, by members of the larger Latin community. The differences of race in our communities is a very real thing pero the change in the language, it's not going to happen. It's too ingrained and the LatinX thing is a US conversation, really no where else.
@linselmitchell - Who invented this term Latinx and what does it mean. We are Latinos, period.
We can't forget the fact that America loves its Latinos to look Sicillian but overlook that fact Latin media loves their image to appear nearly Scanadanavian
More like
More like the US has an obsession over race and color deeper and in a more harmful way than Latin america
@@19ars92 Latin American countries have their own fvcked up ways with race that in many ways are much much worse than in the US.
@@Sooopa_Doopa
really?
remind me when was the last time a shooter mass murdered people based on their race only in Latin America?
@@19ars92 Who do you think FARC was killing indiscrimately throughout the 80s, the 90s and today in Colombia? Blacks/Afros
Want more? Cause I can do this all day.
@@Sooopa_Doopa
Oh that’s why they have Afro Colombians among them?
Is that the reason why FARC was created for in the first place?
To kill black Colombians?
You can’t compare that to American white supremacist
From all the countries in the world that banned Nazism
Only the US and Ukraine opposed that.
US has confessed racist mass murderers every year.
I feel it too, and I'm not indigenous. Sunny, thank you for a wonderful, educational conversation!
Us African Americans and African Latinos, our stories are the same when dealing with systemic racism and white supremacy.
There is racism in us. We as societies survived and inherited Spanish colonialism that left as a sense of superiority towards the black slaves who became a part of society but, we were told, were less than us. Sadly, it's normal in Latin American societies to distrust blacks simply because of their color of skin. So, there is a lot self-study to be done to uproot these ideas.
It feels weird when someone doesn't accept your color no matter what you are it feels painful it feels you're not accepted why because your black or she's white
To the Afro Latina who spoke at the end thank you for your bravery in speaking about ONE of your many experiences. More African Latinos need spaces to speak up about all the racismo they face with latin America. I see it in my classroom all the time from even indigenous people.
This is such a beautiful and important conversation that needs to be had👏🏽👏🏽
I agree and you're very pretty btw 😊
Dominicans are black where ever they go. They should be proud.
As a light Hispanic person, this makes me feel so guilty. I never experienced any of this racism, not even from white Americans. I didn't know racism in the Latin community was this bad. It's pretty sad. It's a good thing to hear this, so we all wake up from experience of other people.
I'm a white Hispanic who grew up in the hood and I've experienced all kinds of racism from most minorities. There's no racism in Hispanic communities,these people are just sensitive/indoctrinated Hispanic Americans.
@@loualbino5536they are a bunch of limp wristed libs and the men pee sitting down
This is great , these conversations need to be less taboo till it's no longer a issue. It's gonna take years upon years but it can happen
Haatepah, thank you for speaking for our people!!
The Native guy is on point to claim his true heritage.
Did he though? He never said his peoples name
@Jasmyn Monet 🔮 Oracle of the West
Obviously you didn't listen to what he was saying? He is Native who was adopted by whites. This is a discussion of " Hispanics " of color. There was not enough time to go into the details of everyones life. He made it clear that he is Indigenous. Chichimeca-Guamare is his tribal heritage. These people, our brothers are indigenous to Mexico. People like you need to respect true Native people. We don't need you to doubt our history.
He do t know his own heritage butt kisser
He should be a movie actor. Wow!
@@OraclesoftheWest, are you blind though? The dude is Native American, just take a look at him! Oh the caucassity of it all! 🤡
Conversation is a big start. Honesty. Tell it like it is. I am Afrocuban. Yes, I have a Chinese Abuela. Yes I am a human. Yes I am.
Exceptional! Thanks for this conversation.
As a black man, im glad this convo is being had. The latinx community is the largest minority group in the US, the colorism in the latinx community will be a HUGE issue in years to come IMO. Especially being that colorism is often goes hand & hand with classism & politics.
I think at some point the US census will break the latinx community into 3 separate groups. Euro (White)/Afro/Indigenous.
Stop calling us LatinX 🤡
Stop calling us latinx and pushing racial labels on majority mixed people. Take a good look at the mess gringos make here in the states 🤷 you should be learning from us
@Andrew C yeah maybe for you, black people are obsessed over skin tone. With whatever issues us Latinos have colorism is not one, (except for east coast black identified Latinos) my family like many other Latino families are mixed with different shades. We literally sit back and laugh at how Americans view race and color. You see when we mix, we make more Latinos. When whites/blacks mix they are diminished, and fight to claim people to one side or the other. We operate on completely different world views.
@Andrew C when people speak on Latino colorism its the same clueless troupe about Latin novelas. If that's our major issue we are light years ahead of Americans on a coherent identity outside of race.
@Andrew C Until Latinos in Latin america start dividing with racial identities (Latinos in Latin america do not even refer to themselves as Latino) they'll never be as divided as Americans.
Soy Mexicano- Americano con padres de Los Altos de Jalisco, my mother is a white light skin Mexican and my father is a Brown skin Mexican, therefore my siblings are a mixture of white or light brown. There is always going to be discrimination anywhere you go, but I tell my people not to fall in that victim mentality, you can be anything you want despite of the troubles that you have gone or are going through. I am an ex convict, ex gangster, and I also got beat down by the LAPD at the age of 16 years old and left the back of the police car covered with blood. I no longer hate the police, I understand today that I put myself in these predicaments, It was wrong, what they did, but I was not coming out of Sunday school.. I have changed my life at the age of 35, I am now 51, I own a home that is going to be paid off in 12 years, I own a couple of lots in Baja California and soon we are going to break ground and build a couple of homes, I opened up a beauty salon for my wife and I am co-owner with my brothers and sister and we employ 45 people. I have had the desire in my heart to do good in my life and I have accomplished it don’t talk to me about that there is no equality, I am living proof that there is equality. Being a productive member of society is not easy, that’s why people rather get handouts. Today I walk tall, brown, and with dignity.
VIVA LA RAZA
I’m sad for anyone who has to live this struggle. I had to become an adult to appreciate the fact that my complexion, hair texture, and nose leave no doubt that I am AFRICAN American. Racial ambiguity can play hell with a person’s social adjustment(pro or con) self acceptance, opportunities, and discrimination (for or against). Will this country ever completely divest itself from this outdated mindset? The poison was so deeply rooted in a few remaining quarters long ago that even I (with my chemically straightened hair, big nose, barely average looks, but gold under toned tan complexion) have been chosen over an obviously lovely looking woman with dark skin and natural hair. An African American beauty! This began changing quite awhile back and is thank goodness, a thing of the past…I hope! 😢
I am going to be honest.. latinos all under one box is to the betterment of white latinos/ i don't want to erase me I want to be me.
It is okay to be black latina with kinky hair,
Or Asian latinos who go unseen,
Or native latinos.
Rather say see me as and individual and respect my diferences
Uh... no. There is no such thing as "white latino" or "black latino" or "Asian latino". "Latino" is a synonym for "Latin America" and as such Latinos are people who have Latin American ancestry/blood. Anyone in Latin America with no Latin American ancestry/blood is nothing more than a European or African living in Latin America just like there are Europeans and Asians living in Africa.
@@NomadFlow based
@@NomadFlow look at you erasing and trying to shut folks up who are stickin up for themselves. Very much colonizer vibes!!!
@@ringsofblayze4026 indigenous aren’t Latin
Great vid, I’m a Puerto Rican and racial identity has always been confusing and complex, so much so i did two Dna tests ancestryDNA and 23andme, my results were 66% european, 19% Native American and 15%African. It was crazy to see the breakdown. I personally identify as just mixed Puerto Rican. I never felt obligated to pick a race because i never identified with either. Latinos identify more with our culture or nationality vs race. With that said though I’ve never erased or denied my African blood even before i saw my dna results in full. I love the afrcan rhythms in our music.
I am not sure it is true that Latinos identify more with culture and nationality vs race. The disparity of treatment, acceptability and opportunity for visibly black Latinos is just too pervasive. Black looking Latinos labor under a great deal of racism and prejudice in the Latin world. My grandmother-in-law shed her Latin identity when she moved to the US in 1974. When we watched this together she said that when she moved here from Mexico. The culture shock was profound for her especially where race was concerned. She was living in New York and she for the first time saw black people doing things, and holding jobs that it would be impossible for a person who looked like that, who looked like her to do in Mexico. She worked at a fancy restaurant owned by a black man, with a black wife who had black children and she had a hard time believing he was really the owner. How can a black man, a black family be able to do such a thing. Why had he married a black woman? didn't he know better? Meanwhile when she went home her fellow Latinos were treating her as if she were dirty or a slut. Mexicans would say she could not be Mexican. She told us that finally she decided to just cross the line and leave the Latin world behind her so she could have a better life and she has a very good life. In America the racial group after whites with the most millionaires in it is African Americans. Nowhere in Latin America is that even close to being true. Phenotype racism in Latin America translates into lack of opportunity, and a generous amount of self hate piled at the door of Latinos who look even a little too black. refusing to see or talk about the issue maintains that status quo.
You love black people, but not there history or heroes! Black people came to that island as slaves! Not as immigrants!
@@clementmckenzie7041 a smoke is this store even true🤣
@@elizandropedraza1286 you know it shows when y like your own post right?
You should love the black liberators who freed you from your white oppressors, before you turned against them to become the oppressor.
Gracias I really enjoyed your program. We need more programs like that to make us understand and talk about our our Gracias Gracias
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The government don't care about us, that's why i always advice people to invest
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Why wasn’t Haitian people invited to this conversation we was the first Latino country
Even us Mexicans are discriminated for our color and for our language, even when I watch tv Spanish channel I do see color preference
Latino is not a race to begin with. You have all the races in the Latino community.
NO NO NO... IF YOUR FAMILY MOVES FROM AFRICA TO THE D.R. DOSENT MAKE YOU LATINO.. YOUR BLACK FOLK LIVING IN A HISPANIC AREA. THEIR DNA RESULT WOULD SHOW AFICA
Proud indigenous 🪶
I like that-"we didn't cross the borders the borders cross us" Finally someone said it. I always felt like why don't Indigeous latinos FINALLY SAY THAT!!
Lmao we won the war, get over it. Borders have been made already.
Why don’t u claim Peru or some other poor Latino country? Why obsessed with coming to USA created by Europeans? Always want to be around us. 😂
Can we have more conversations like these please? Where are the links to follow these people?
I used to be so confused growing up, I'm Mexican American, my grandmother on my Dad's sides family was from Spain and Native American. I look Native American, a lot. My Mom's side was Mexican and probably Native American. I don't look Mexican, I look Native American. But you know what I'm still Latina, I'm still Mexican.
You shouldn’t be confused. You’re a mestizo Mexican and that’s great. Always be proud of your heritage.
All Mexicans are Native American/ Aztec. There’s no Mexican dna strain
I don’ look Mexican , there’s a lot different Mexicans . I meet a lot Natives in the Pacific Northwest and they look it like some Mexicans too.
You not a Aztec, I forgot the Spanish killed them all!
@@TheFearlessBabe MOST Mexicans and those of Mexican descent are European, indigenous, often Asian, AND Sub-Saharan African. The denial or minimalization of African DNA among Mexicans is one way colorism and racism manifests itself among Latinos and Latin Americans.
I can't see how "mixed" don't see or know they are mixed🤨 Us pure people see our features in " mixed " people So why can't they?????🤓
Not all Latinos are mixed some are just BLACK and some are just WHITE....
I'm so happy this space was created. I hope I can see follow up conversations. Sometimes I feel so alone in these issues as a black Dominican of Haitian descent, who has experienced colorism and racism. Whenever I speak up I'm told I am "acomplejada". That I have to work on my self-esteem because it's all in my head. Or that I am simply a Spanish speaking Haitian.
I’ve always found that dinamic with DR so perplexing because most ARE black ( I know not all and varies by region ) you would think they wouldn’t be that prejudice. I’ve seen very dark Dominicans calling Haitians Negros and Pelo malo and when you look at them saying that they’re just as dark and the hair texture is similar. It’s weird how race is seen with them. It’s like they assimilate more with their European ancestry even though they don’t look it and have less Euro Ancestry. I am assuming it has to do with the Cast system that was enforced on them and has caused generational trauma.
I enjoyed this video, very educational and enlightening. Seeing this caused me to reflect on two former coworkers. I worked with people who were Black and White. Both of these coworkers were brown-skinned like me and my other African-American coworkers. The man would often say that he was Cuban and the woman would often say that she was Mexican. Neither of these people were born and raised in Cuba and Mexico, respectively. That annoyed me because they would bring up their "identity" in conversations that had nothing to do with race and ethnicity. It was obviously their way of telling their White coworkers and managers, "Don't get it twisted. Just because I'm dark brown skinned, don't confuse me with those Black, African Americans". As the man in this video said, Mexican is a nationality. BTW, the woman who said that she was Mexican had one African American parent and one Mexican parent. The irony is that they knew that anyone who saw them would see them for who they were: two BLACK people!
He's definitely indigenous, and it's beautiful.
Wow!! This video put me in tears. This hit home. 😢😭
The last 3 years I went on a journey of rediscovering my real identity. Religion and colonialism tore away who I was and I’m reclaiming it. I want the same for all my brothers and sisters. May people realize they have been affected by the terrible beliefs of the colonizing powers, that way they can find their freedom by discovering those lies and fight for the rights of all peoples. Proud to be Quechua/Aymara, native South American.
I feel blessed to have been born with very light skin for a person of Mexican heritage. My mothers side has numerous people with very light skin and its something kinda bizarre when put against my fathers side who all have more tanned, indigenous Mexican features. Just about everyone on my fathers side have tons of stories of racism, being denied jobs, automatically assumed to be illegals and asked for identification but they were all born in the US.
You’re a mestizo Mexican and you can be any shade and it’s great.
I hope that light skinned blessing works out for your children also. Since we are not working to make the skin color issue any better than it is now, it would be a shame for your kids to inherit your fathers families indigenous phenotype curse and be subject to the kind of abuse that they are.
Same here but my mother is the one who is dark native Mexican and my father is the white Mexican who left my crazy mother when I was a baby and I came out looking like my father thank God. And my older brother who is a afro -mexican because of his dark father I would say because of his dad curly hair when I saw of his father picture but not change the topic what I was going to say my older dark Mexican brother never like me and treating me really horrible and abuse me as little boy and my mother let him do that too and that drama following me until today and when growing up I never knew why he was mean to me but now it all point to my lighter skin color that I think he always jealous of but I still love him though .
Some of these conversations remind me of the daughter in Imitation of Life where she was happy not to look Black like her mom. It’s so sad to have this anti Black syndrome.
@@clementmckenzie7041 indigenous phenotype is not a curse, it's a blessing. However, what _is_ a curse is the *belief* that indigenous phenotype is "less than". I hope this is what you're meaning.
Thank you for this conversation.
Gift. A beautiful conversation. Thank you
As a Latino, I'm perplexed by this conversation
I am Mexican Indigenous too. He is so beautiful ....
Indio
I was denied entering a Family Dollar when it first opened one morning, though Latino people were allowed in. The, "doorkeeper," to the store could have been my grandma. She was as Black as me, but she decided that I shouldn't come in because I wasn't Latina. When I asked, "La tienda abrieta?" suddenly, I was allowed in. Disgusting
Color people are not weak people they're very strong people and they need to talk more about how they feel about what the color they are
The Dominican dictator thing and the Haiti thing makes SO MUCH SENSE
Very nice conversation. I learned a lot!
Whiteness is currency thats a good way of putting it
Colorism is real just like racism only thing with colorism it's a universal thing especially in the black community & even in the latinx community going all the way back to the cast system race & color Europeans were pretty slick I must admit because this system still determines who you talk 2 who you bring home etc who you marry touche I admit 😠
That fact that you said "latinx" says a lot about you.
Latino ain't a race you can be any race and be Latino
@@Dominican1923 who said it was a race 😒 we know Latinos can be any color my people are from Guyana which is a country in south America that country language is English not Spanish so I wouldn't be Hispanic cause Spanish is not my first language but it's still a part of south America but colorism is real here just like any where else Hispanic is a ethnicity Dominican is your nationality
Can we please stop tryna make the word "Latinx" a thing? it's not something used in Latin America, so why are you trying to force something?
Gender bender crowd manipulating language
My nationality is American, yet my DNA is 100 % African due to my parents who came to America and birthed me.
Knowledge of self is the key to having a good quality of life.
IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF COLOR: UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. COME TOGETHER RIGHT NOW!
I am disappointed in this guy Haatepah Clearbear in denying his Mexican culture. You can be indigenous and Mexican at the same time, why choose one over the other. It sounds to me like he is ashamed of his Latino roots.
Sunny hit this show off with a bang from the 1st question.
How tragic that Sean Arce and Hateepah Clawbear are either unaware or hiding the Africanness in Mexico and Mexican culture. They only refer to their indigenous roots: great but they (or, rather, Mexican or Mexican-descendant people) are not only indigenous and, as horribly as indigenous Mexicans might experience colorism and racism, Afro-Mexicans have been told by Mexican society that they don't exist and have been treated, even by indigenous peoples, as such. The idea behind that is, as difficult as it is to be considered indigenous, it's better than being black.
I pretty sure they don't want to talk about being black because they don't look black and do not have the experiences of being black.
@@Gabster1990 That doesn't mean that they don't have any Sub-Saharan African DNA.
@@caraqueno yeah they could have African DNA but people don't see them as black. They won't be casted in a bio-pic movie of a slave rebellion, they would play the roles of your 'typical' latino.
@@caraquenoclearly if they had any it’s very small and irrelevant. What’s next, ur gonna be mad white Argentinians don’t claim their imaginary African roots too?😂😂😂
This conversation is so important and I love everyone's contribution. I would love to hear about their experience in corporate America. If there's a video tag me. Furthermore, I wish Blacks would stop thinking we are the only community dealing with colorism. I encourage all of my Latino people to speak up b/c your voice is needed! Peace & Blessings.
Just to add, there is colorism is also in Asian countries so probably the entire world. So many times I’ve seen Asian women bleach their skin for lighter whiter skin...mind blowing!
@ Michelle Ngome Blacks don't think their the only community that deals with colorism; Blacks are more vocal about colorism than other communities. This is an informative tip: Blacks were the ones that got colorism put in into the discrimination law . It wasn't in the law when it began. I wish people would stop interjecting the Black community into other communities problems
@@breeminor498 I actually think it's beneficial that more communities share their stories that way we can all learn from the experience.
Afro Latinos are black latino ain't a race there's white black mixed even some asian Latinos
A conversation about colorism while only having one person of a darker skin complexion
Most Latin Americans are not oh her complexion. Therefore, percentage wise, it makes sense to only have one.
What is missing is a White Latino from South America who has no connection to Africa.
@@FedericoT69 alot of Latinos are blacker than her
This was an amazing interview 🎉🎉
I love all my brothers and sisters Latin black American indigenous melanin native's darkskin brownskin aboriginals etc.
I know darkskin Port Au Rican amara la negra.. is the only dark skin latina I see on TV but the others are unsean .. even in these conversations.. one token dark latina.. but not darker then the paper bag
Shes Dominican though.
Amara she’s Cuban called herself la Negra , she’s hot , but not good actress , look at Lupita Nyongo she Kenyan /Mexican and she never talked about her skin color it’s what they bring to the table . Hard work & dedication
@@antoniobanderas9769 Lupita has spoken about raycism and colorism, including when she won her Oscar years ago. Where have you been?
Amara la negra is dominican
Omg! Haatepah is on ABC!! 😍🥰
This video has made a mockery of him, because it's about the Latin experience. Native Americans in the U.S. no longer want anything to do with this man or his twin brother. It's been discovered that he's tried to claim being a member of various tribes, when questioned and looked into, it's been found out that he has lied and there is absolutely not relation to any tribal entity.
BEAUTIFUL AFRO LATINOS!!
10:41 for those they can from Instagram on the Haïti DR subject. Your welcome ;)
This conversation begs the old question, with all the Afro-Latino Actors/Actresses now available in America, why don't Afro-Latinos make their own movies like Black Americans do?
In truth, you rarely see afro-Latino actors or actresses working in any real numbers anywhere. Those who do get steady work are in roles as African Americans. The numbers and success stories really do not have the critical mass to be able to generate capital for that kind of undertaking. African Americans are the second largest group of millionaires in the United States and we have only begun to be able to tell our own stories in the past 15 years. Even so in a very limited fashion. to make what you suggest happen they would require a lot of support from the African American community. A community that is not really sure if the Latino community is in community with them when it counts. Time will tell.
@@clementmckenzie7041 Well, you know something? You make very valid points. The reason I'm very interested in such an undertaking is, let's just say, I have a very sympathetic spirit. We'll go more into that in a bit. Anyway, as far as I can ascertain in my mini research, it was Black America's Carter G. Woodson who initiated "Black History Week" for the month of February. Black leadership, intellectuals, press members, and others helped propel the idea that would eventually evolve with congressional political support into what we formally have today as "Black History Month". In the contemporary politico-cultural climate there has been an intentional expedition by many in the Afro-Latino community to consciously push the idea of celebrating Afro-Latino heritage in the month of February as opposed to the months of September - October: Hispanic Heritage Month. Thing is, yeah, I agree with your detection, "Even so in a very limited fashion. to make what you suggest happen they would require a lot of support from the African American community." Black Americans endowed in the arts with proven empowerment capabilities whom are conscious enough to detect "mutinous" behavior would be suspicious of assisting someone's community whom they feel may have the proclivity of charlatans in their psychological development as pertaining to their success story: if they either fail to give credit to where credit is due, or if they speak out contrary political ambitions that sooth say the true root of where the assistance began. I on the other hand, am hoping for a beautiful mutual love story. For my entire life, I grew up as a Black American, and my mind was always wired in the thinking of a Black American. Then again, I took a ancestry genetic test a few years back, and of my 3 genetic groups, 2 were Black American genetic groups; however, 1 is a Puerto Rican genetic group. It's confidence level is higher than 1 of the Black American groups. That shocked the mess outta me. The company informed me I have ancestors in Puerto Rico. The difference is, most Afro-Puertorriquenos know about it, but somehow, someway, something got broken in my family lineage, or for whatever reason hidden, or taken as no big deal, and it likely happened in the 1800's. That DNA 'marker' is still inside me. My fiance is Puerto Rican but we didn't know about me til after the test. It's almost as if a supernatural mutual genetic recognition happened that brought us together; yet, I grew up in a shared Black American - Puerto Rican community; therefore, I am no stranger to the Puerto Rican community as if I grew up in Seattle. Anyway, gotta run. Thanks for the comment.
It’s starting to happen. There’s a Pixar Afro-Latino movie.
@@TheFearlessBabe Interesting, you have the same last name as Natasha Alford. Anyway, that's very good. I just hope it either has English subtitles, or done in a way where it's understood by most communities. Thanks for the info..
@@TheFearlessBabe Also, there is "Colombiana" where Actress Zoe Saldana was given a lead role. The challenge is making movies where the viewer has a variety of subject matter to appreciate.
Eye-opening this is thought-provoking.
This was beautiful 🥹❤
Everybody should be accepted for who they are, judged for what they do and not for what they are. Everybody has the challenge of proving others wrong and rising above the narrative of the background they come from. The reality is that people judge you for how much you work and how nice you are regardless of your ethnicity.
Colorism and racism within Latino communities needs to be talked about and needs to be acknowledged otherwise reprogramming of the brain will never happen.
I really wish they would stop calling himself Afro Latinos there’s no such thing of Afro Latinos.I am what you call a so-called African-American my people created the word Afro American We’re not Africans and you’re not Africans either that name Africa was created by the colonizers..we all were called by our tribal names. Dominicans are Haitians are the same exact people the white Dominicans are just biracial That would put on the land separate by themselves. My people the so-called African-American people has never come from Africa we’ve been on this land we were colonized and I’m sick of people calling us African or black that is not who we are we were colonized
Actually the original name of Haiti and DR is Quisqueya, Quisquellanos would be the correct term. They should claim it. In PE they’re know as Boricuas they claimed their OG identity
Wow, I can relate to the "Dominican salon" experience.
Which is ironic because most of them have similar hair texture except it may have 1 or 2 level less of kink and they act like they’re superior 😂 to other Latinos their hair is see the same way. You would think they would be more humble.
Calling yourself Hispanic and Latino, you’re still describing yourself as a European. Spanish is a European language. I’m glad he doesn’t describe himself as a Latino or Hispanic. He should call himself indigenous because he’s not a European.
They keep saying colonized, your ancestors were enslaved.
Great conversation!!! Thank you for this!!
Excellent conversations.
I dated a Latina woman and man that’s when I realized how ubiquitous colorism was among their communities. It was sad to witness how Afro Latinos were treated at work,and l also witnessed how the indigenous people were treated from within their communities ie. The mistreatment of them as cleaners and also as nannies.(poorly paid)
Every one must heal😢😢😢❤
I could hear him all day
Why is Sunny’s accent only prominent here and nowhere else? Lol
What do you mean. She is from NYC and she sounds like a new yorker with a university education, She always does.
Exactly, she made herself extra “latina” for this interview. On the view, she plays her African American card
@@FedericoT69 she has two identities , being that she is half Latin/Puerto Rican and half African American. She’s allowed to embrace both sides of herself, no matter how that makes you feel.
@@Luver4lyfe Puerto Rican 🇵🇷 ain't a race there's BLACK PUERTO RICANS and white ones and mixed race ones
@@Luver4lyfe my point is that if she indeed has latina roots, then don't only show it during a latino segment. She should be real at all times.
I loveddddd this video
People also act like African Americans don’t have the most range when it comes to how they look from Steph curry ,Terrance Howard,to Wesley snipes ,Shaq
In South America we have always identified. Our indigenous communities in Ecuador, Peru snd Bolivia speak quechua and other indigenous languages.
Welp....Dr Miguelina Rodriguez was the clear standout here. She did that.
It wasn't a competition.
nice cascade Charlie Brown