Colorism and White Latinx Privilege
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Academic experts and members of the Latinx community discuss why it's important to acknowledge privilege, and take actions to fight colorism.
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Its important to not to negate Maya's experience. She may look Latina to us but we are only a handful of people compared to who she has met in her lifetime. The entire colorism conversation is very important and should be treated as such.
She looks 100% Latina to me. I don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@MarioRodriguez-gr8wc Okay, she looks Latina to YOU. I'm sure there are others who mistake her for white though.
Kirsten Iturrino 😂 I guess. I don’t see how she can be mistaken for white.
@@PsychonautDreams1251 girl sometimes comprehension is lost
Mario Rodriguez you need to continue to educate yourself on what COLORISM is, because your not getting it.
Same thing exists in black and South Asian communities
Well, it's passed along as part of colonialism.
I am a white Cuban girl who married into a south Asian family. They glorify our child and constantly brag at how “light” he is within his south Asian family. On the contrary, my family did not like my husband because he is “dark” to them and they used to say things like “what a shame”.....its so wrong....I genuinely fear for my child when he gets older because this video mentioned bullies and my son definitely looks more south Asian than white....I wish the world was not this way...
east asian communities
All POC communities have this, even individually by country...
Let Latinos have our moment.
Melissa isn't even dark, so for her to be casted in poor roles means a person that's barely 3 shades darker than her is catching hell
Thotimus Prime I was thinking the same thing people that are brown skin always play the maid novelas have change but for Melissa to saying she dark girl please
@May Sal The one drop rule exists in Latin America too. She is not seeing as pure white because she is a “mestiza” a person with mixed Native American and European ancestry. The lead roles in telenovelas tend to only go to pure European Latina actresses like Ludwika Paleta, and Angelique Boyer.
@@purplecatinlove1900 to some is dark
I used to watch a lot of TV novelas when I was younger but only one of them had a Afro-Latino. Mexican TV likes to pretend that race doesn't exist.
She’s darker then a white person lol she’s coloured, it’s obvious. Did y’all see her DNA results? She’s mestizo
I think Mya was making perfect sense. When you look at the demographics of Mexico, Mya would be 'white passing," in the sense that she is lighter skinned. This is not to say that she is a Caucasian Mexican.However, compared to her brother who looks more Indigenous than her, it makes sense that in a society that praises whiteness, how Mya would feel "preferred" compared to her brother. Conversely, if she was in a room with an actual White Mexican w/ pure European ancestry, she might receive less preferential treatment than her white counterpart; As being Caucasian in Mexico, is the standard of beauty, and social class.
I am black, and this is common in our community too. Very dark skinned Black people get treated worse by society; mixed and light skinned Black people get put on a pedestal because of their proximity to whiteness; and of course, White people get the best treatment in society b/c they're white.
I notice that colorism mentions the Afro-Latino experience. Can we also speak on the Anti- Indigenous sentiment in some Latin countries? I feel that sometimes both experiences get conflated. Being brown (indigenous) is a different experience from being a Black (African) Hispanic person.
You are so right. It saddens me that darker skinned people are looked down on. My family is Native and in Mexico they have always discriminated the indigenous for their skin and facial features, but others are praised for having pale skin. It’s just sad that we are in 2020 and people still receive discrimination 😔
Thank you for talking about indigenous people! Its been bothering me that Pero like never talks about it. I know talking about black latinos is important but the experience of colonization and racism is different for indigenous people. For the latinos in Pero Like I think its important to talk about Native Americans. If you live in the U.S your living on Native American land and to never bring that up is very disappointing. They need Native Americans on the channnel.
White skin is a phenotype. White Mexicans, unless their parents are inmigrants to Mexico, are still mixed.
Being light skin in Mexico like Maya is not preferred at all, but also darker skin isnt either, the ideal skin color for Mexicans is a lighter shade of brown or olive skin tone. But someone like Maya would get made fun of for being too light, but her brother would too for being too dark. Take Canelo as an example, he was actually discriminated for his skin color, his freckles and hair color. He was not praised or worshiped for being light, it was the opposite, that is because he is TOO light for the liking of the Mexican beauty standard. So this whole "light skin is preferred in Mexico" is pure nonsense, if that was the case, Mexico would have a big skin bleaching problem like it is found in black africans, african americans, black caribbeans, south asians and Asian people. Mexico doesn't have that at all because despite the beauty standard, people are still happy with their skin tone. In fact, tanning beds and tanning sprays are a bigger seller in Mexico by a large margin than skin bleaching products.
Being caucasian in Mexico is not the standard of beauty LOL where do you get that from to begin with? Please dont say novelas because I will laugh if you do. The beauty standard in Mexico is having olive skin, high cheekbones, large eyes, long straight hair with a blend of indigenous and european features. Hence why most models in Mexico are MESTIZOS, and why most Edecan girls are MESTIZAS.
White people get the best treatment in the USA because in this country, they make the MAJORITY
In Trinidad, the ones who get the best treatment are INDIANS because they are the MAJORITY
in Mexico, the ones who get the best treatment are MESTIZOS, because they are the MAJORITY
She is probably more Caucasian than anything else. Most Latino's are predominantly Causacoid with a bit of Native or African.
Maya is not saying she looks white, she’s saying she faced LESS discrimination compared to her darker skinned brother... that’s EXACTLY what COLORISM is.
she used the word 'passing" which means she thinks she passes for white if you pass as something people think you are that thing thats not rocket science
Snuff Daddy the word “passing” doesn’t mean you necessarily think you look white it mean that in relation to other people of color you can pass as “other” or something else in closer proximity to whiteness. Black people use the term “passing” as well. do you think they use it to say they think they look white? absolutely not. it’s a term to describe your proximity to white on the color scale.
She looks white to me
@@menkae6708 not to white people
Snuff Daddy I’m white and she’s white lol have you been to Southern Europe?
I see brown people on tv playing as poor or low class characters and I say "that's colorism," but my family doesn't say anything. I'm brown and I have, like many others, been treated differently simply because I was brown. I had a white Mexican friend and they treated her differently than I. But I wouldn't change my skin color for anything. I wouldn't change my heritage for anything. Shoutout to my fellow indigenous americans and ancestors!
There's nothing to change. You are perfect as you are. Be proud of your people and your bloodline always.
I stay calling out these novels and shows, like, I know there are latinx actors a darker shade than alabaster who could play one role in this narconovela.
I kind of wonder if it's reinforced in real life, like job interviewers judging darker skinned (or fill in the blank) applicants as "unworthy" of the job.
You’re not indigenous.
@@tiny2315 How do you know that?
The conversation of what Latino looks like needs to change.
Latin/Latino/Latina is NOT a LOOK, not a SKIN Color, NOT a DNA. Latin (Latin is the correct way in English) it's all about Romance Languages and Roman Latin Culture. Blame Mexican Chicano Frank del Olmo because he created this identity problem for you but choosing "Latino" instead of "Latin American/s" to identify your ethnicity.
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These are the requirements to be considered Latins. You must speak a Romance language, have Roman Latin Culture, coming from a country whose laws are based on Roman Laws and whose religion id Roman Catholic. Latin/Latino/Latina doesn't mean what you think that it means. Usdedes estan confundidos!!!
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I’m baffled at Melissa saying she’s the darkest in her family as light as she is...that’s wild to me
Same lmao but i've heard that in Mexican and other Latin American telenovelas, whenever they can't find a dark skinned person to play the help they usually pick a light skinned mestiza to do it
It’s actually wild that she was one of the darkest people on tv, because to me she seems very white passing
I was thinking that same thing. But in no way was she dark. It seems like it was just a hair and eye color difference.
Well it also says something about who is allowed on tv.
But I think that was why she said at the end that she realized she's privileged. She is very light, but in comparison to the other actresses, she was darker, and she had dark hair and eyes instead of lighter hair and eyes. So, yeah, it speaks to how in the industry, they're likelier to cast people with lighter shades of skin tones than darker ones, which is wild when you consider the average Mexican or Latinx person is much darker than she is. It really is a scale, and she's near the top, but not right at the top.
Right? And the ones they showed like white rich characters looked the same skin tone as her? Just dyed blonde hair....
So many telenovela actresses look like her. She is super white to me. Sure some are dyed blonde but there's plenty with her skin tone. She's like porcelain. They should have chosen a much darker person to speak on this.
I agree I'm full Mexican and I get confused with White all the time because of my complexion and green eyes. I have gotten a warning pass for speeding and my warning ticket said I was white according to the cop. My sister on the other end who has a darker complexion than I do has gotten a speeding ticket, no free warning pass like I had. That overall says a lot. I also notice when my sister and I go to stores together I noticed the people are more welcoming to me than towards my sister. It makes me so angry, yet people have the audacity to claim colorism and racism doesn't exist 🙄
IN FACT they put us as white so they could LEGALLY discriminate against us. You know we had to get to the back of the bus too right? “That’s discrimination” “no it isn’t we see you as white....no get to the back!” we had to take it to the Supreme Court to fight that shit and started the 1st go fund me in the process. Stop letting sell outs and white people trying to divide our people teach u about our history
The only way you're "full Mexican" is if you're 100% indigenous.
@@macktasticification I'm speaking from experience and what i had seen for myself. I am not following from what other people had told me like the claim you made.
@@volcrazy89 I meant both parents being Mexican, I should've clarified it better.
@@PapiGalleto bruh im "passing" and I get fucked with by cops, followed in stores, fit descriptions, etc etc so im calling bullshit. and again the idea is not racist cops or white people its fake colorism in the latino community so your examples are mute anyway. FOH
When schools desegregated in the US, the racist schools got around having to admit black people by admitting light-skinned Latinos in the white schools and darker-skinned Latinos in the black school. This means that if my siblings and I were born back then, my sister and I would've gone to the rich white school while my brother, who's dark-skinned and autistic, would've gone to a school that didn't get enough funding to adequately help him. Still, I was born in today's world and I still clearly see how I am privileged. I am a "palatable" Latina; not too dark and I can speak like white people. Don't invalidated our experiences just because you didn't experience it.
IIRC there are actually still a couple of school districts in the South that are still not integrated.
I didn't know some schools got around full integration by doing that. Thank you for sharing!
You’re not latina.
I’m glad we are taking about this
And for no reason at all
Ken93 why do you think it is not an important conversation to have ?
K Ilex it’s a very important conversation to have not fair that my cousins get discriminated on my dads side
AMÉN!😤
Same, this so important.
I’m glad we’re talking about this. Some people aren’t ready for this conversation yet though.
Ready or not it's time
I know what you mean, but waiting that they are ready, is not the solution.
unpopular opinion:
African descendants of Cuba, PR, DR, Brazil, Peru, Panama etc. are the original creators and pioneers of Mambo, Salsa, Samba, Festejo, Reggaeton etc. through the pressures of colonialism and its aftermath. Respect it and keep steppin to it,
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RalphE Archive Huh? That’s not an opinion that’s a fact 🤨
So true but they better get ready
SHOUT OUT to my BLOODLINE on the Continent of Africa, my AFRO Americans, my AFRO LATINOS and ALL my AFRO people throughout the diaspora
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I am Cuban, and I was born white as the sun due to my Spanish side of the family. My hair is still dark and curly but I am often confused for Italian, that is til I open my mouth and people hear my slight accent. And something that was very interesting was that I never was felt discriminated agaisnt til I moved away from Miami where I was born and raised. And because I look so white I have felt a bit of distance from other Latinos (except Mexicans, chillest people ever, been to A LOT of cookouts and quinceaneras), because until they get to know me just a bit it's not immediately apparent that I'm Hispanic. This is a deep cultural phenomenon that isn't going to be less of a stigma unless we talk about it. Just because I'm a bit less tan doesn't mean "que mi sangre no tiene azul", just that I tend to need a lot of sunscreen while my cousins just need a quick spray down lol. And the reverse is true, my cousins have been turned down from jobs and internships just because they were darker than John "frat boy" Smith.
What's important, is that we talk about this.
My family’s from Argentina and most of the people there are light skin so my whole family expect my dad is (my moms side is white and is more tied to their European ancestry). I have light skin, light brown curly hair and hazel eyes. So when my family moved to the states we were all seen as white. We never faced discrimination in Argentina bc of our skin tone but when we got to the states Latinos never saw us as Latinos I was always called names and whenever I spoke Spanish I felt like people where trying to look for when I messed up ( most of the time they couldn’t understand me bc my Argentine accent strong and we say thing differently.) But I did notice that my dad faced discrimination against him bc he has dark brown curly hair and a mediterranean tan color, I dont know if that’s right but he is just darker but people would always try and speak Spanish to him or white people would say “gracias” and other annoying stuff.
My fiance is Cuban him and his family moved from Cuba to FL when he was 10. He has green eyes blonde hair. People always think he is White until he opens his mouth then they are like what the hell are you. You are not from America. It happens to me but not from my fellow PR. It's always from other races. They are like who brought Becky. Then when I talk they are like you sound like you are Spanish & I'm like Yes I'm PR.
The sun isn't white
@@kofikofi2403 So wait, dark, curly, locks of hair, nice Mediterranean bronze, tan skin, and if he was in shape well which equals = The Latin Lover Ideal or runway "Italic Greek" beauty standard! I'm so sorry. That's so messed up because (well I know he's your dad, BUT....) that is considered extremely beautiful, handsome and sexy! Wow!!!!! No, no, no!!!! Got to love that sunglow!!!!!
Dumpster Jedi I get you. I’m a fellow Cubana and on my mom sides it’s pure Spanish descendants (so she’s white as hell and has dark hair and light hazel eyes) but on my dads side it’s kind of mixed (one of my dads grandparents was half black, his mother is Spanish and I’m pretty sure he’s got some indigenous blood in him, so of course he’s a lot darker than my mom has black curly hair and incredibly dark eyes) so my sister took after my dad in color and I took after both of them. I’m tan have dark wavy hair and have dark eyes and a big nose and lips( my sister got lucky she doesn’t have a big nose or big lips) but I’m always being thrown shade (by my lighter cousins) that I’m not dark enough or that I’m not light enough or that my skin is the perfect “Latina” color (same cousin has said all three btw) and I’m just sitting here like what the hell? What’s my skin got to do with me speaking Spanish and being from somewhere else?
Thank you for talking about this. I experienced the same in my family. I grew up as the only family member with dark complexion. I was told I was black and adopted, and not Mexican. Kids didn't want to play with me in elementary because I looked "dirty" because I was morenita. (I grew up in a small border town with mostly white Mexicans) And it didn't help that my brother is pretty pale. We look similar but different skin tones. So people didn't believe we were related. I wasn't even allowed to play in the sun as long, because I'd get darker. This needs to stop NOW.
Stop trying to absolve ur guilt by putting ur family’s racism on all of us. You were raised by racists sorry that’s not our fault sell out
Damn, I really feel you. Specially because I grew up in Northern Europe. I went to an all blonde and white school and girls would tell me that I was "dirty" because I was brown. It's so sad that this has to happen
bby bih so white people tell you you’re not pretty because you’re brown and that’s colorism in the Latino community? STFU wanna be apart of something sell out
@@bbybih3893 I'm really sorry to hear that. It can be VERY confusing as a kid.
@@macktasticification wait what? It's not like I chose to be bullied for being brown.
I’ve been waiting for this - Latino is an ethnicity not a race so we come in every shade. Glad to see someone mention the inherent inequalities of this.
This person does not pass as white
It’s not even a ethnicity
@@MeleeMaster22 that isn't the point. What is is that there are still different shades of skin, and colorism still applies to hispanic/latino communities.
Ser latino tampoco es una etnia. Solo son personas que hablan un idioma que proviene del latín.
Ergo, latinos también son los franceses, españoles, italianos. Ser latinoamericano ES ya otra cosa. Ser latini NO ES UNA ETNIA.
@@MeleeMaster22 it's a culture, es una cultura.
I experience this all the time. Going out with wife/family. I can pass as white when im a light skin salvadorian and see how I get treated differently and look differently in stores or work. Living in the South I mess with ppl who assume I'm white all the time, to see how they really are/think. Then I pull out the Spanish and their head explodes.
Omg I love the feeling when your talking to someone with a heavy accent and you speak Spanish and they are so confused and do the whole run down of omg u speak Spanish ,where you are from, u where so light I thought u were a gringa. 😂
@@kofikofi2403 or "where did you learn Spanish?" En la pinche casa.
Lol. My mom does the same. She's even had Latino's speak bad about her in Spanish without realizing she knows everything they said. I realized there is a privilege you inherit with a parent who is white. Growing up no one ever assumed that my mom didn't speak Spanish or that she was Latina. I think when you see my mom and sister who are both white with green & hazel eyes people just assumed that I was mixed. But both of my parent where born and raised in central america. My dad just happens to have more indigenous roots than my mom. My siblings and I just go from light to dark and I am barely passing as "dark skin".
Same thing happens to me. I look very black passing and some people get shocked when they find out I know Spanish.
That’s exactly what it’s like with me. My fiancé is a white man and people assume that I am also a white person and get treated very differently when I pull out Spanish. My brother is significantly darker than I am with the same parents and I have seen how different they treat him.
Please, stop your further labeling of us by calling us "Latinx". We're not freaking mutants or the X-men.
You are you come from every race mixing Mutants
THIS. ESTO.
'Latinos' It's already okay
para gustos colores, a mi en lo personal no me molesta.
😂 that’s also the first thing I think of when I hear that term. I get what you mean
Your ignorance is showing. Please educate yourselves.
Hateddddd being told I need to play less outside bc I’m dark
Such an important topic to discuss. Deal with this myself as a light skinned Latina. I’m not even mixed.
Mixed? Lol we are the ones who gave you your names language and lighter skin. Idiof
Ridiculous! Smdh
Karl Quintana you say “we” as if you had anything to do with anything😂 you did nothing! your ancestry probably has a long line of incest and all that incest rage wants to make you feel important
@@karlquintana2680 wow where your proof? Find out all Egyptians Lands Plus the world even with Chinese Japanese & New arabs Their still Wink Brown 😂 we still make up 96% of world nations plus all Lands was is whose? Ohhhj ok we spew out? What lies full blown aids Like all made up today okay live Non Zombie 🧟♂️ minds okay bye Be happy 😊
You're not a Latina. You're a "Latin American woman". Latin/Latino/Latina only refers to Roman Latin Languages and Roman Latin Culture. Nothing to do with Skin Color or Race.
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I'm mexican-american, and my skin is lighter than my brother and sister. And like maya said, brown is a beautiful color and i agree. My brother and sister are brown and my parents make fun of me just because my skin is lighter. Often, i laugh along with them thinking it's just a joke, but my friends get confused when i say I'm mexican because my skin isn't the same as my siblings. It makes me feel ashamed of myself for some reason and angry when my family calls me white. And even though I may not relate to the whole point of this video, I'm still really tired of it...
I cannot tell you how much I relate to this, I was bullied and still am for being a lighter skin tone than my classmates and they refuse to believe I am at least somewhat Mexican even though I speak Spanish fluently and was raised in a town very near the border. My father is fully American and my mother is fully Mexican with half of a European background so you can tell how white I would look. I completely understand what you are going through so your not alone ✨
@@dailynb.866 I'm so glad to know that I finally have some one to relate to 😊
@@melanieortega3535 same here 😊
I understand your experience as I still know if to be true firsthand.
Maria Yniesta Same here girl!
I’m not white, I’m not white passing but I recognize that I am a Latina with light skin privilege
Mel S well said!
Latina with light skin privilege is white passing to others despite what you think
Jorgiana Lopez my skin is a light tan color. Trust me, no one confuses me as white and I have no white privilege because I’m not white passing. But I acknowledge that even though I’m considered to be tan, I certainly have more privilege than Afro latinas and that’s a conversation we should all be having.
How does that make sense
Alessandra Nuñez where did you get lost?
I’m a white passing Egyptian and most of my family is brown skinned and I get treated much better than they do unfortunately
Its not that your white passing its that Egyptians are of the Caucasoid race
@@user-gd5dj2nj6c 'caucasoid race' that is such an outdated and historically racist term. Her family are North Africans, they are not white and they are not perceived as white. Race is a social construct and the classifications differ around the world, but it can be seen that her family experiences discrimination for being brown and in Canada for example, North Africans have their own category and are not considered white. So yes, if her family is full of non white Egyptians then she is white passing.
@@user-gd5dj2nj6c egyptians are not caucasian pfft. Such a lie.
@@alnajjar2726 I am not saying they are white, im saying they share the same Caucasoid skull structure
@@tablecloth1943 re-read my comment i never said they were white. All i said is they have the Caucasoid skull structure. Even people from Indian have that skull structure
I really felt the girl who said that she wanted to have "blue eyes and blonde hair" because my dad has blue eyes and blonde hair (I am more like my mom who's afro latina) and I grew up in Northern Europe where everyone has those features plus girls at school bullied me for being Mexican. I remember thinking that I wanted to not go in the sun a lot and I wanted to dye my hair blonde and use blue contacts. Looking back I think how messed up it is that little children are thinking that stuff.
Also I wouldn't define maya as "white passing" tho, she's lightskin for sure, but she looks Mexican. Every skin tone is beautiful ✌🏻✌🏼✌🏽✌🏾✌🏿
That was your PERSONAL inferiority complex.
So sorry about your experience. I wish you lots of love! I'm also Mexican on my mother's side, but I have Native, European and Black in me. I moved to Germany recently. 😊
@@mariaalexander427 Not the part about getting bullied and the effects on her.
There’s NOT such a thing as “white passing”. Latino is not a race therefore if you’re white and speak Spanish you’re just white. Hispanics need to stop getting brainwashed by American politicizing beliefs. The girl in the video is clearly just metizo but just as Italians have moor decent and are consider white a person could have some indigenous heritage and also be white. It’s not a matter of looking Nordic or not being white, just look at most of Southern Europe.
MEN Kae It depends though. I have friends who have one indigenous parent and one white parent, and they look more like their white parent. Hence, they are “white passing” because although they are mixed they pass as white.
As a brown mexican person I always struggle with that. I'm gay and guys feel more attracted to the white ones, companies hire white people for publicity or to help in banks but the browns go to clean or to do other activities. We actually have a lot of racism in Mexico, even when most of the population isn't white. It sucks because even your family sometimes say: oh, hijo, consiguete a alguien güerita para mejorar la raza.
That’s fucked up bro it’s true when I go down to Mexico and visit the darker skinned people get last dibs and the lighter skinned people go first
Crazy how different our experiences are. I got picked on in the US for being too light all the time by Latinos. Even my own Mexican family tells me to tan
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I strongly believe that this is important to talk about. With that said I just think the Hispanic/Latino has many problems when it comes to skin color. “Your are never enough”.
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All I’m gonna say this is all absolutely true, every word.
I think we should talk about skin bleaching or the Afro-Latino movement.
This here hit me pretty hard. My moms family is straight up taino roots from PR. My dads family is all colonized rican with blonde hair and blue eyes. I have a twin brother and im darker, My older sister is so white she constantly is seen as Caucasian. I grew up with people asking me if i was found in a dumpster and just adopted for pitty. Thats here in the USA. In puerto rico ive never had that problem anywhere. When I go on vacation there and Im called negrito its in a loving tone. Not like here in the states
I’m glad you said this. I’m a black American person with no Hispanic decent and I believe that it’s really an American thing but when I talk to white people about it they make me feel like I’m making things up in my head or something
Why others just can't embrace others because of their personality and actions versus letting someone's skin color determine how to approach & treat them is just weird !
Carlos Ramirez damn bro that’s fucked up
A Scott right
Is because the USA is divided by skin colors idk why they are so stuck in classifying people by skin color like the color of ur skin in USA is a main topic almost every week
Glad we’re talking about this
I've lived in Canada and Mexico. When I found out that my family and I were moving to Canada for a while, I was scared to face racism because of the color of my skin, I was in my teen years.
Now as an adult, I've experienced more racism here in Mexico than in Canada.
Diego, I am really sorry this keeps happening to you.
Sorry to hear that man :/
As a Canadian..wow
That's because Mexico is one of the most classist colorist countries on earth
Thank you... Colorism is huge in the Black community (Including Black Latinos) and needs to be talked about .
This is such an important conversation to have and to keep having! Pero Like is always opening up the conversation and I’m so grateful for your platform in doing so! ❤️
I’m tan/dark skin. Am I like the only one that hasn’t felt discriminated by my skin color? I have gone to schools where it was mostly blacks then mostly white. Actually I’ve felt the most judged by my own Mexican family when it comes to skin color. I KNOW FOR SURE that if I was in Mexico, I would probably feel different about my skin tone. But here in the US I have never really felt like my skin color was bad or that I wished I could changed it.
Colorism most definitely exists in America, black community included. I believe (well know) that colorism is perpetuated not by whites, but by minorities. WE’RE the ones that perpetuate the idea of lighter being better. That’s why you always hear minorities (especially those of darker skin complexions) fetishize light-skinned/mixed babies with curly hair and light eyes.
It really does depend the area you live in. Personally, I grew up in a pretty Latino area, so I didn’t really see it that much. However, once I moved to a whiter area I know that I have personally seen people treat my darker skin Hispanic friends with more indigenous feature differently than my lighter skin/more European looking Latino friends. My darker friends would always get Mexican jokes and made fun of for having smaller eyes, while my lighter skin Latino friends never experienced that.
No your not the only one diana I'm taino puerto rican like redbone type and i can honestly say whether in puerto Rico or brooklyn new york I've never faced any discrimination and my relatives are all colors none of us ever had a problem in my opinion white privilege don't exist any where especially today in america
That’s just school. I bet You will face it when it comes to making $$ like buying property in certain neighborhoods, applying for certain jobs, trying to start a business, getting certain customers, trying to get your kids in certain schools) basically when you become a full fledged adult.
@@realSimoneCherie No i haven't I'm 35 years old and worked in all kinds of neighborhoods. Again to me this video is full of false propaganda to serve afro centrism which is nothing but bullshit and its why we the hispanic community will never be as strong as we can be especially in america this is an example of wanting to be black when we're not to say there's white privilege in our community is a laughable joke. I live in new york i see all types of hispanics succeeding
THANK YOU for making this!! So many of the people in our community don’t understand these concepts especially the lighter skinned folks and having this conversation can educate people in how to raise awareness about colorism in our inner circles and families
the fact that she would be considered the darkest is crazy
I know right?
It's always been like that in most federalized tv
I applaud Pero Like for opening up the discussion on colorism 👏🏾
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Conversations about this have been long over due
When I first moved to the mainland (12 years old), I was told by SO many classmates that I'm too white to be Puerto Rican. While it's kind of annoying to hear, I just can't get mad about it because it's absolutely nothing compared to the colorism that my fellow darker skinned Puerto Ricans and other Latinos will experience.
Growing up in Los Angeles me and the homeboys would always jump white boys for fun lol
@@waylonmercy8125 That makes you a garbage person hey 👋 I guess.
You should have told your classmates that being Puerto Rican or latina isn't a race, is a culture. A latin country can have people of many shades of skin colors. For example, i'm from Argentina and you can find white, mixed or darker skin people. There's asian and black latinos too. So being latino doesn't have anything to do with race.
@@waylonmercy8125 💀💀
@@rocioluque956 EXACTO.
I love that you guys are talking about this! One thing though, is that I wish it was translated in Spanish because it’s hard to translate things like this to our parents who don’t speak English and who would benefit from hearing about this to help them start unlearning some of the things they’ve believed their whole lives and hopefully to stop the cycle of perpetuating these racist beliefs.
This is what Spanish Media should be shedding a light on. But nope its Novela after Novela. Its a real shame.
Everything starts in our own countries. Racism and discrimination are huge and heavy in Latin America as well.
Me and my sister's have different dad's...her dad has more European and my dad is afro-latino...I grew up browner/darker with kinky curly hair wider nose and fuller lips and people couldn't believe I was related to her... believe it or not I went thru alot...thanks for making this video!
How big is your nose
Thank you for talking about this. This has been something I’ve been talking to my family about! 🇵🇷
This is one of the most informative and useful videos to put out during this time. PERO LIKE, THANK YOU.
Thank you for this video!! Our older generation doesn't see it that way. I was explaining to mom my issue with Mexican television.
It's something she never really noticed.
We love our novelas and don't think about the subtle messages they're sending us. Once you see it, you can't stop noticing it. We have to start getting our elders and the next generation to discuss it so they can recognize it and create change.
It's not older generation, it's anyone born raised in Latin America. It's why you use eurocentric terms to start with like Latino rather than mestizo because of colorism in Latin America
This is so true, every time this topic comes up this is my main response. Because of the color of my skin, I haven’t been treated the same as my brown skin friends, family, etc. I always get questioned when I speak Spanish because till this day it’s STILL shocking for some to see that latinx, etc comes in a variety of skin colors. Everyone is beautiful, we all need to learn more
The color of your skin won't save you from depression, issues, unhappiness, being poor, being abused. Think about that.
I love that these discussions are finally being had.
Happy we’re talking about this
I appreciate how we’re beginning to have this conversation. I can say now that after facing discrimination so long based just on my skin color, that I truly love myself for all that I am. I love my deep dark brown tanned skin. My black curly hair. My dark brown eyes. These features make me happy now, and I wouldn’t want to change them for anything else.
Thank you SO much for bringing attention to the issue of colorism. This such a painful issue for myself and members in my family. I hope you continue to cover such an issue especially in Latin television, music, film, advertising etc. Amazing work!
This content is very important. Thanks to the Pero Like team for working hard to bring it to us.
Growing up I was very insecure about my light skin, thinking I wasn't latina enough because I wasn't darker. I was treated differently in the latinx community and also the caucasian community. It's a truth that's difficult to accept because i didn't want my white privilege. I felt guilty because I didnt have to face all the problems darker latinos face. But I recognized my privilege and will continue to use it to help others the best way possible. I hope others who maybe went through something similar will also use it to help. So glad this is being talked about!❤🇵🇷
I’m 94% indigena and I came to the us @4 yrs old, I spoke my native language, I did not speak Spanish or English, so I learned it here... I learned English faster than Spanish because my mom didn’t speak Spanish either! So my Hispanic counselor told my mom that she HAD to stop talking to me my native language and learn Spanish and English.... I understand that but why did she not push me to learn all 3 together!!! All throughout growing up Hispanics around me would talk bad or make “native” speakers ashamed that we are not “Hispanic” enough and then we have to deal with Americans assuming that all we do is speak Spanish !!! That’s why it was so hard to identify is a hospanic or Latina because the Hispanic community( kids in school, adults around me) would always make me ashamed that I spoke my native toungue and that I’m indigena... also they accused me of acting brings because I caught on to English faster... I hated seeing people like me especially in school system down south where I can tell that other kids spoke native languages and the Hispanic kids would tease them to the point that they would say they didn’t speak their language that they came from “ el capital” where more Spanish is spoken. I hated that part of my life but I have learned to embrace my culture and I’m trying to learn mam again🤍
*also they would accuse me of acting “gringa” because I caught on to English faster*
Yesss, finally Pero Like thank you for talking about this!
I really appreciate this video I think this really needed to be talked about and I hope more continue to talk about this!
we need to talk about assimilation too. Your parents named you Abigail so you can appear more Gringa friendly.
Omg, yes. I love that this is being talked about more and more everyday. And yes, recognize your privilege in order to use it to better society!❤️
I am glad this is being discussed. I’m fair complected and with light eyes but the rest of my family is dark skinned. They call me guera or guerita. It makes me feel a part from them. I am a proud Latina and proud of my culture so when I’ve had friends or acquaintances say the most Mexican thing about me is my name, it’s hurtful. Being clocked as white is not necessarily derogatory but definitely feels exclusionary especially coming from other Latinx people. Maya’s experience especially not speaking Spanish resonates.
Thank you thank you thank you for this! It is such an important conversation and so needed!
This is excellent analyses. thank you!
I really needed to watch this
I feel this video so much. I appear to be racially ambiguous and my experience as a Mexican Canadian is vastly different. I can't imagine what it feels like to endure this injustice
My family is very racially ambiguous as well! I’m the most white-passing out of all of them, but even then I’ve been labeled different things than my actual background. It’s frustrating lol.
I still benefit from colorism no doubt, but I’m just stating my own experience of ambiguity as well lol.
This was a great video! Thank you 🙏
Thank you for this very important conversation
i'm glad more people are having this conversation nowadays.
Love these conversations! The professor is right when she says sometimes we have to politely correct or rephrase what some of family members from the older generations say about colorism. We have to start somewhere, why not at home?
Ashlee, the real test is correcting bigoted peers you really like.
So happy to see this conversation happening. I am the lightest of me and my two sisters so this hits home for me.
I’m an anthropology major and seeing these conversations being brought up is great.
28 haters. I fully enjoy these videos. These conversations need to take place. Well done!
I am a very light skin Latina. When I was growing up I always felt and was told I was less Mexican than my peers. I hated being light skin and still do to this day. But I do realize I haven’t faced racism in the same way as my friends and family. I am so glad someone like you maya is talking about this and educating people. Thank you! ❤️
Great video, I really appereciate it!
You need to stop referring all Latinos as Latinx
Both are colonial names
You need to stop calling mestizos by pseudo Eurocentric terms such as Latin or Latino or other made up USA crap. At least say Latin American.
@do you like pizza? cuz I want a pizza dat ass Latino is also used to refer to male and female
@do you like pizza? cuz I want a pizza dat ass Then just use Hispanic or Latin, since the language and culture offenses you so much you racist
This conversation has open so much of I knew this but no one spoke about it. Enjoyed it will continue to follow this to open people mind to teach to hear to just understand
I had married a black skin Puerto Rican however my family (uncle and aunts) from Puerto Rico of lighter skin and blonde hair blue eyes said I had ruined my line for the family and as a wedding present I received a five gallon of coconut oil for when I have children. I tell you this because I was so hurt because my father and mother never allowed that kind of talk in our house we are all of the same place no matter what color you was. Now at 62 I want to speak out and teach people the difference. Speak loud and be heard
I'm so sorry you experienced that. That story broke. Just remember that this is a time for change which means we can now talk about those issues that we never dealt with before. Let's take this time to start a conversation with our family members who make those hurtful comments/gestures.
And speaking up MUST ALSO HAPPEN AT HOME and when family members are showing unacceptable behaviors. We must start these conversations in the home, especially with the prevalence of colorism in our communities.
I really do think that also the accent and the use of a proper grammar really. helps a lot, it has helped me to equalize certain situations, some one whose language tells who possesses a certain level of education and also tells everyone you are no immigrant, I had the pleasure of living in the United States, for a short while, but at the time I went there I was totally unaware of all the racial system, I don't know if it was due for the lack of sunny days but my skin became lighter and I. was. totally unaware of some situations, the most strange of them all was when I was told I was not a Mexican.
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Thank you for this video 👏🏻 I lived in South Korea for a while and it was the first time I noticed I was privileged. I lived with my boyfriend that’s also Latino but moreno and an African American girl, when we used to go to restaurants people didn’t spoke to them or even looked at them ☹️ is a conversation that we need to start having
Mestizos can pass in just about any country huh
Yes! We totally need to discuss colorism in the Latinx community. Thank you for this video.
*LATINO community
exept youre a gringo who dislikes disrespects and does not value latino culture and language
Latino*
Ojberretta Berretta I wrote Latinx to be more inclusive of our fellow transgender and non binary Latin people. It has nothing to do with disrespecting our language and culture. I’m just trying to include all people. Have a great day ☺️
Rinqo25 *Latinx. I said what I said. Have a great day ☺️
@@isabellagonzalez5695 while you think you include lgbt ppl....because u dont know or understand the spanish language...you are actually excluding around 650million ppl...because they cannot pronounce the word....so...you are insulting our language and culture...because it was gringos who do not value respect or understand our language who invented the word...so do you exclude 650mio ppl to include a tiny miniscule minority who do not understand the spanish language..because they think its excluding...its not excluding anyone....while latinx excludes 650mio ppl whos mother tongue is spanish
Bruh she look Mexican af 😭
I know only dumb butts say because of the color your not Mexican. Your face features have to do with a lot of it.
Wow, this is really important. I'm glad this is being talked about
Thank you.... this needs to be heard....
Love and Light 💖
Namaste 🙏
I'm Argentinian and grew up in Australia in a really Anglo-Saxon neighbourhood. I am white with some Middle Eastern and Indigenous ancestry. My sister and brother are darker than I am (my brother had racial slurs from people who thought he was from India). Even though I was the lightest skinned child, I remember really wanting to be as white as my best friend, who was blonde, pale, and had blue eyes.
I remember once looking at the scar tissue of a scab I'd picked off on my arm and saw how white it was and thinking - if I scab up my whole body and peel it off in a few weeks, maybe I'll be able to be as white. Colourism is real...
I also have the same issue with people not believing I'm South American because I have olive skin and green eyes. It hurts because I wasn't really ever accepted as properly 'Australian' either (and that's a can of worms I won't be opening here). But at the same time, I absolutely understand the privileges I have because of that.
Maya may look a certain way to us because we are use to seeing her on Pero Like and we know she's Hispanic but if she were to change her brows, wear a lighter lipstick and straighten or even lighten her hair, she would look more Euro and that is "passing". This is done all the time especially when one's skin is light enough. These people can take advantage of their "Proximity to Whiteness". A darker Latino may not be able to take advantage simply because their skin. That's what Maya was explaining when she was compared to her brother.
Yes, you're right. We can tell she's Latina because we see people who look like her in our families and our communities. But she can pass for a white person with dark hair and dark eyes. One of my daughters has dark brown hair, fair skin and freckles. When she went off to college, she was shocked that some people thought she was white, but people in our own community would know right away that she's Mexican American.
💯 and I can speak to that as well, until someone sees my name lol. If I let my hair go natural people always ask me if I am biracial. If I go straight with blonde highlighted hair people have no clue what my background is and never ask or question me.
Great video and content!
Finally this is being addressed. There should be even more light shed on this topic.
I love this video, Lynn from vida is the best and Maya is the cutest. Thank you discussing this issue. I'm dominican and there has always been a discussion about pelo malo or pelo bueno, who cares.. all hair is good and beautiful
So many people have constantly assumed I was Caucasian. Some people wouldn't believe me when I would tell them I was Latina; I would have to prove that I was. I actually wished I looked more Latina. Once, an asshole was talking to me, insulting and discrimination the Latin community, not realizing I'm Latina. He was very shocked when I defended the Latin community, revealed I was Latina and cussed him out in Spanish. I understand I have more privileges and opportunities than darker skinned Latinos; it breaks my heart that they don't get equal opportunities. This definitely needs to be talked about more.
I'm Mexican too!
I think that’s basically true in a lot of communities. Most lighter skin hispanics want to look more hispanic same for lighter skin blacks. Being Dominican i think colorism was hard. Hair texture as well. Loving your skin. Skin color does not define culture
Girl, your name is Karen .
@@PHlophe what does my name have to do with anything? 🤷♀️😵
@ruben champollion ??????
It's amazing that we are talking about this in public. It is so needed because when I was growing up it wasn't acknowledged or talked about. Things were said but no one challenged it. I can't tell you how many times I listened to people be excited about a relative's blonde blue-eyed baby... y'all know what I'm talking about.
Thank you for this
This is a VERY important conversation to have, especially to those of us who benefit from colorism like myself. We need to acknowledge the privilege and understand how it affects others who don’t.
Question Everything it’s very important to understand that it’s not an even playing field, even in 2020. If not these conversations would be of no relevance. There’s systemic racism in more forms than just being able to ride a bus. That does not cover any type of ground and isn’t even near the top of the iceberg.
Lmaoo he deleted the ignorant comment and now it looks like I’m talking to myself 💀 at least I got my point across.
Great video!
I don't like when my parents/brothers say to me that I shouldn't get tan because I'm already dark and if I get darker I gonna be mistaken by a thief, because here in Brazil the cops always suspect of dark skinned people, I'm latino from Bolivia living in Brazil (and my skin is yellow when its pale and red when I'm healthy)
Wow such powerful content! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
More videos about this topic please!
This is ingrained in our culture dating all the way back to the Spanish caste system
yes, people should know more about it.
I remember in middle school the dance teacher told me I couldn’t join the dance team and I was like why and she said look at yourself and showed me a pic of the dance team with all white kids lol I left confused
I really hope people reflect and learn from this video
Thank you for talking about topics that no one else addresses! I have always been treated differently from my brothers for the same reason as Mia and I’ve worried about how they can be hurt. I have also heard that when I was born I improved the race, and that seems like such a backhanded compliment. I love that we come in a variety of colors and I wish people could appreciate the beauty of what God gave us!
I feel lucky that I grew up loving my brown skin. I’ve definitely experienced instances of aggression and colorism that affected my confidence, but think I was raised in a way which encouraged me to embrace and love my skin
you look like a cute cat, i can tell you are happy .
In EVERY country and culture from Mexico to Argentina, it is the worst of insults to call someone a 'indi@' - let that sink in.
The worst racism is & has been towards the people of native american descent (phenotipically). Even from themselves
I had to deal with this and learned about this difference when I was six years old. I went to a trip with my mom and her family thought she married an "American." I didn't know at the time until years later and then an ICE raid happened near my neighborhood and I was scared for my brother. I knew my social and other info, but not my brother. I sent him home and got the beans for dinner, but I was angry when I was "passing." The officer said that when i was at the door of the store and i was ashamed of it. I love my family and sometimes this is a challenge when i don't fit the mold.
When she said “ ay que mejorar la raza” by marrying someone whiter than you I’ve never thought about it that way because i thought of that statement as you have to marry someone who is Mexican and not someone of another ethnic group.
and if you marry a scandinavian, you snagged gold basically.
But what if they are latino? Just not mexican... Like Puerto Rican or salvadoreño? Does that count?