@@Eskeletor_210 That explains why I had such a terrible time with that fight a month ago! But also weird, because I'm pretty sure I used my abilities in the attempt that didn't crash.
I always interpreted Regret's Flood form isn't _actually_ Regret. All of Regret's memories and personality would have been assimilated into the Flood consciousness, and we know that the Flood can use super cells to amalgamate into pure forms, so I took that as the Gravemind reconstituted a Regret-like avatar from raw Flood biomass, and then made it talk. It's actually pretty horrific when you think of it that way. It's just a bunch of necrotic flesh that the Gravemind is animating like a fucked-up sock puppet.
Either that or he's in a similar stage of infection as Keyes is the CE terminals where he's still quasi conscious but knows the flood is stripping him of his memories. Although your idea is somehow worse. Using a reanimated rotting corpse as a rhetorical device to manipulate your enemies is just next level evil.
@@phoenixjones7191 this is my interpretation too, the Flood doesn't always have to digest the host completely. Part of its aesthetic is that it's necrotic, and with creatures that don't need to be reshaped for combat or building materials, they can just be immobilized, have their brains plugged into the biomass, and that's really all that needs to be done. The Gravemind does sometimes keep characters around like Luc said in the video too
Perhaps the reason the covenant prophets weren’t turned into combat forms was due to their frail bodies but maybe they were still infected so that their vast knowledge of the covenant would be absorbed into the hive mind. And regret keeping his sanity (allegedly) was just the gravemind doing the same thing it did to the master builders wives and children
1:14 Also there's the detail you brought up of how Flood Jackal Snipers would've been Halo 2's versions of Combat Evolved's Rocket Flood but even worse to deal with.
But that’s impossible because how can 343 make FAN fiction when they totally completely Hate Halo? 🤔 The OC part is right though, the Endless are very original and i think that’s why I’m actually fascinated by them. I know this is an unpopular opinion but i don’t care: the Endless was the most interesting thing to me in Halo Infinite and I wish they revealed more. The Banished stuff just felt like “Old Man Yelling at Cloud”
it’s pretty clear the endless are a threat because of their connection to the mantle Despondent Pyre states the only thing the forerunners feared more than the flood was losing their power, in the same game Cortana (who also has an interest in the mantle) says there’s something worse than the flood on zeta halo there’s also a whole other part of that theory about how Cortana states a longer lifespan is essential for holding the mantle, and how the endless might not age/are biologically immortal (not invincible). Also if another separate theory is true it could explain how they survived the halo array
The stuff about the endless and their possible slipspace timestuff gives me an idea for a halo 7 id want. Mr chef and the gang are trying to stop the endless now in a proper resurgence from activating some kinda slipspace mcguffin when its misactivated and sends chief back in time to the fall of the forerunners(lets say after the didact is put in his corner but before the forerunners lose the capability to do anything). The chief then needs to team up with the librarian to defeat the endless in the past before the flood are able to win whichd trigger the halos. Imagine going down with some forerunner commandos and knights to a flood world or fighting on an endless megastructure partially in slipspace and finishing it with a warthog run while the final battle between mendicant and offensive plays out in the skybox. And odsts could be there somehow
I feel safe in assuming the prophets aren't immune to the Flood. That Prophet aboard the ship Half-Jaw had to fight his way out of during CE in the Halo Legends comic sure wasn't immune.
Not just that, but the Flood can, and have, faked resistance/immunity in certain groups/individuals for the express purpose of misleading research, defensive efforts, and lowering vigilance over certain types of infected people. The biggest failure of the Forerunners was treating the Flood like an animal, and not a hyper-intelligence that merely used hyper-aggression as a mask for its more devious methods.
I have randomly become obsessed with flood lore once again there’s something oddly fascinating about them. Part of me kinda hopes that one day there will be a prequel to Halo that takes place during the final days before the Halo array is fired it would be interesting to see in a game just how bad the flood had become leading up to that point.
I wonder if the Infection form that tried to convert Mercy was just too weak, even weaker than the one that converted PFC W. Jenkins. So it was able to connect to Mercy's nervous system, but was too weak to actually start the conversion process.
that's probably why the gravemind started to directly consume him kinda like what happened to captain keyes (it appears i was talking about regret, not mercy)
In regards to mercy fighting off the infection form maybe the gravemind was trying to extract information form the prophet rather than turning him and when chief pulled the infection form off him he also could have pulled some of his spine out with the infection form this truth died pretty instantly
I would love to see the flood vs the replicators from stargate. Especially the Milky Way type which are basically a mechanical version in Stargate lore. They are one of the few races that are also probably immune to the logic plague purely due to arrogance and just simply not engaging the flood in conversation long enough to be infected
I actually feel like grunts and jackals would be a good species for the flood to infect. Grunta are small compared to Chief, but kind of the same as humans and the flood loves infecting humans... Plus they are a pretty hardy species. I also feel like jackals would be parkour ninja flood form.
In regards to the prophet of mercy not being turned into a combat form we were shown in a previous video that infection forms can choose not to infect a host they latch onto in favor of just consuming their hosts biomass so its likely that was what the infection form was doing to mercy eating him instead of infecting him.
In the halo “cryptum” book it is mentioned that the prophets species has a resistance to the flood’s infection. They were still susceptible but they had a strong resistance in fact the book even states that they could be infected by ancient humanity but infected prophets where unable to spread it to other species.
I want a game where you play through the entire war from Johnson’s perspective, Harvest to the Ark (with obvious time skips) and a mission where you get to escape Installation 04 as Johnson.
Whenever Jenkins got brought up in the video I remembered it was said that the reason Jenkins was able to wrestle for control from the infection form was because it was old and didn’t have enough strength, mayhaps it is the same case with the prophet? (I don’t remember which one it was bruh)
Makes you wonder if the Librarian's gift to Master Chief also made him truly immune to the Flood. It still doesnt explain how Master Chief survived the attempted infection back in the Pillar of Autumn as the penetrator managed to break the skin and Mona Lisa proved that even a touch was enough to trigger an infection.
I remember a time when it was assumed the flood was all-consuming and that no species whatsoever could avoid the infection, even trees and other flora, and the assumption was that the early bungie games just didn’t have the budget to make a combat form out of each and every unit type, I remember a time when the flood was still scary
I think the Endless is immune to the Flood because they are Precursors, so they technically see them as the same species and ignore them. I definitely think the Endless have a central nervous system. I doubt you can use Precursor NEURAL-Physics without one. Also I seriously doubt that the Endless have time travel capabilities in a traditional sense. The Lore related to them involving the word “time” has been massively over analyzed What they have is being connected to Living Time. This isn’t Time Travel, it’s a Metaphysical Concept tied to the Mantle of Responsibility. You know who are also attuned to Living Time? The Forerunners and Master Chief. It’s basically the fabric of the Universe giving something plot armor. This is probably why the Forerunners did not purge them. They physically could, but it could have had massively detrimental consequences for the Universe just like the Flood did. Especially when the Reclaimer Symbols on Harbingers Armor is concerned…
I have a theory that the gravemind has complete control over every flood supercell, It would explain regrets consciousness, as well as the arbiter not being infected in halo 2.
1 truth was being infected by flood spores, not an infection form, so it would have been slower Giving him time to To resist 2 the profit truth might have been stronger than we know
13:23 if the precursors created the Xalanyn as revenge. Man that would be one of the coolest stories ever in the Halo universe. Imagine if the Endless are indeed the true heirs of the precursors and then somehow they find a way to weaponize the Flood and use it for the reclamation of the Galaxy.
The flood are able to assimilate knowledge from an infected host, no? I believe that in Mercy's case, the infection form was targeting him for tactical knowledge and scanning/transmitting that while Mercy was still conscious. By the time Master Chief came by, the infection form had done it's job and just stayed there because the body was too weak for anything else.
Wasn’t Sergeant Johnson’s immunity retconned by Bungie? I could have sworn they made a statement or put out some sort of comic that said he just fought his way out, not that he was actually immune.
It could be that the first prophet did create an early and unfinished version of a cure which delays infection and is passed down through genetics but having the slightest downsides of becoming diluted with time hence why it didn’t really do much for the covenant prophets
I imagine once there's an active gravemind, if an infection form gets ahold of a creature that wouldn't make a good combat form but has a lot of valuable information, they immobilize it and go into interrogation mode, like what happened to Keys. The infection form woud absorb its knowledge and either transmit it to the gravemind using telepathy, or just learn everything the host knows and scuttle off to the nearest hunk of biomass and plug itself in like a flash drive. Some other flood entity could come scoop up the husk for biomass later.
Johnson being immune while the two squads were entirely wiped out got me thinking. I love the series, but I was super disappointed by ODST. I was hoping for a tactical shooter, like a rainbow6, with the player being horribly outmatched (lore said at that point that humans were screwed, out numbered by a foe with superior weapons). Instead, we got ODST that played like they're Spartans, their personal energy shield was renamed "adrenaline", you could still easily kill a brute in melee, etc. I would still LOVE to get a tactical shooter in the Halo universe, playing as non-enhanced special forces, in scenarios that demand planning to overcome. BUT tangent aside, but keeping with the idea of branching away from the super soldier run'n'gun game style. What if, a horror survival game where you play as a regular human (marine or civilian), trying to survive a flood outbreak. Like Alien Isolation, but with the flood.
Frankly, there's a distinct possibility that Truth, Mercy and Regret were resistant to the Gravemind's influence because of the sheer size and power of their respective egos. Truth especially is at the very height of his hubris, declaring "I SHALL BECOME A GOD" even as he's literally being eaten from the inside by the Flood AND throttled by the Arbiter. Even the Gravemind's literal cosmic-scale ego pales in comparison to what a self-absorbed dickhead Truth is.
Weird to think that grunts and jackals arnt more valuble hosts than humans are. Considering the Jackals are straight up taller and more nimble (that one marine death in H4 on The Composer level is a great example) and Grunts may be smaller on average but they have a lot more mass, they could definitely put in way more force than any of us
Hearing about the Prometheans being former elite warriors composed into digital essences and planted into robot bodies makes me wonder if we could ever see something like that for humans. Maybe Spartans get turned into AI and implanted into the Spartan robots that we saw in Infinite’s concept art? I know Halo likes its mirrors between humans and forerunners so idk
I like to think that all the grunts/jackals/drones that get converted into flood are almost exclusively the biomass that makes up the Gravemind and such. Good bodies = soldier, bad body = meat for the meat God
Wow what a great Video and Content you made....awesome!! Love it!!! Full of important facts and notions that help understand the world of Halo and I think also ours!
Another interesting thing is that 343 continues prophets having a different relationship to the Flood. Infected Prophets would rarely infect other species.
For the Prophets, I'm willing to chalk it up to strong-willed individuals being able to fend off the mental control for a time even if their body fails. And Mercy's infection form may have been a weak one like Jenkins'
Sgt. Johnson is not actually immune to the Flood. This was retconned by Bungie since Nylund sorta went against what they wanted for the Flood. It was first included as a thing in First Strike, But Bungie did not like the idea of anyone being immune to the Flood and then reiterated on numerous occasions that Johnson is not immune to the Flood and that Boren's Syndrome is simply a coverup of the Orion project.
I don't think there are only 2 choices here. It's not just (a) become a combat form, or (b) be immune. Keys and the Prophets were valuable intelligence targets for the Flood. I believe that the Flood absorbs the more intelligent entities more slowly, in order to keep their brains in tact and extract knowledge. There's no need to preserve a brain if you are just going to turn biomass into mindless combat-form drones, but Keyes and the Prophets needed to be handled carefully during the process.
If the flood come back in the future I want them to win. Grow so far and wide that chief has to Hail Mary to fire the entire array to prevent them. Just imagine chief, arbiter, maybe a couple squads of ODSTs, and some marines being all that’s left on one remaining ship. Always on the backstep, always fleeing. A dark future of the halo galaxy. It’s like the necromorphs. If it keeps coming back it was always meant to win. The flood is the great filter.
@HiddenXperia I have a thought question for you and everybody else here in the comments. A little backstory first. The other day I was talking with my brother who just turned 21, and I myself am 26. Not a significant age gap. Personally, I grew up playing Halo. My cousin introduced it to me when I was about five or six and I fell in love with the game instantly. So, naturally when my brothers came along I tried to share it with them as well, because I have such a passion for the game and the story. Now that we are older, this brother that I was talking to plays a lot of the reboot modern warfare series as well as warzone. I personally don't have a lot of interest in the reboot series, nor do I enjoy war zone or Battle royals in general. Multiplayer isn't really my thing. Now when my brother and I were talking the other day, he is currently playing through the Halo 5 campaign. As we were talking about it he was saying that he liked the older Bungie era Halos because they felt nostalgic and he likes to remember growing up with me and playing them together. But from a gameplay perspective, he says he likes Halo 5 more. (He also hasn't played Infinite yet.) Now in his own words, he says that he likes the gameplay for Halo 5 because " it feels more like a 'his generation' game, while the older Halos feel more like a 'my generation' game." He says that Halo 5 feels, "more faster paced" and "more like Call of Duty" so that's why he likes it. Now the question. Honestly, when he said that, it kind of struck a nerve with me. Not with him, but with what he said. I don't think that Halo should feel like Call of duty. I think that Halo should look and feel like you're playing Halo. And Call of Duty should look and feel like Call of Duty. Now, I'm not against admitting that I may be a little biased. That's true. However, liking both of those game series, or at least the older Call of Duty games, I feel like both games should have their own distinct feel and style. Is there going to be some bleed over? Absolutely. That can't be avoided. But for my brother to say that he likes one because it feels like the other kind of irks me. So my question is, what do y'all think? What is your guys's opinion on this? Do you think it's okay that Halo 5, in the words of a younger person, is like Call of Duty? Or do you think that it's okay if the games are similar? Or is there a point of view or thought here that I am just not seeing? Let me hear your thoughts please.
If ships in slipspace were unaffected then, due to proliferation of slipspace drive, amount of ships and population of those, then it is possible that some ships or even whole fleets were in transit and survived halo fireing.
I want a flood grunt form so bad. Grunts are crustaceans and have an exoskeleton right? Its their main evolutionary protection. So how's this A flood form that rolls/semicrawls on 4 limbs. Like a Ferrero Rocher, has a decently hard shell, but an oh so goo goodness center that when you kill it, has a satisfying pop, but leaves a pool of acidic and/or flammable juice all over the floor. It could have a bunch of cool interactions with a sandbox/gameplay. Plus seeing this thing roll around with malicious intent sounds amusing and horrible
Aren't the San'shyuum so genetically messed up that it could maybe help them slow down the infection? Like maybe the messed up genes are affecting the central nervous system in a way that might not avoid infection, but slow it down a bit?
I was going to comment on why they didn't augment the others like they did Johnson but then I remember most of the Orion project people were not mentally stable.
I don't think the Endless could be immune. What if they were locked away because should the Flood ever infect their species they could become immune to the Halo Array? That thought is terrifying itself.
as far as the huragok [engineers], there is another species of engineers created with their purpose being to repair organic lifeforms. these are lifeworkers.
If humans could find a way to modulate the frequency of the electrical impulses could that be a cure for flood infection since they wouldn’t be able to form a resonating frequency…
Now I want to question if it has any biomass but not a nervous system can't they still be brought into the flood via being brought into the biomass of gravemind or a flood hive
Because ancient humanity was nearly on par with the forerunners. They had the capacity for limited use of neural physics which allowed them to continue fighting. They also used a very aggressive approach to fight the flood which is why the forerunners even took notice of them. Once the flood decided to step back is when it was to late to win
This is the perfect video to proudly announce that I, Luc 'HiddenXperia', am immune to the Flood
I will not be taking questions
😂😂😂
Great Video Btw
*Logic plague enters the chat*
But I have questions!
A phenomenal video!
Ah, yes, Reapers. The immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed that claim.
I litterally am on my annual replay of the trilogy and just beat ME 1, i read ur comment in the turian ambassadors voice 😂
* 5 seconds later *
*S C R E A M I N G*
@@Mr.Unfairif you are a biotic user don’t use your abilities on the final fight. It will crash out halfway through. Learned the hard way on insanity
Ah, yes, Endless. The immortal race of sentient beings allegedly immune to the Flood. We’ve dismissed that claim.
@@Eskeletor_210 That explains why I had such a terrible time with that fight a month ago! But also weird, because I'm pretty sure I used my abilities in the attempt that didn't crash.
Can't believe this guy is still doing flood lore videos. Keep going man just like the flood itself, the love for these vids is eternal.
Perfectly said!
Someone has to.
343 certainly aren't.
That Infection Form just knew better and ran away from Johnson. It rethought its 100,000+ years of life decisions lol. 🤣🤣
It wasn't badass enough for me
Random Spartan IV: *Gets heavily infected and mutated*
Johnson: *Eats Flood infection for proteins*
Benefits 10
Taste -5
@sgtmjr_avery_johnson7949 "spartens never die, the6 just stand there and refuse to move" - Pvt Jenkins, Halo CE
4:10 maybe when one lekgolo is infected the hivemind of lekgolo just removes that one particular worm
That would be logical
Spits it out like a poisoned food.
Yeah, but it's also stated they cannot form their own out of infected individuals, Meaning the issue is working during that form
We even see that happening with some ant species , so it's most likely the case anyway lol
@@djraythefurry0420 ya!
Johnson handing you an infection form like it's a Big Mac.
Yummy
¿Quieres?
@@HiddenXperia ¿Hablas español?
hey, it could happen!
Probably healthier than a Big Mac!💀💀💀
1:19 never noticed the little animation of the grunts swinging their feet on the shade turret
It’s damn near adorable😂
In the Halo Graphic Novel, there was a story about the Elite "Halfjaw" that had a prophet who got infected by the Flood.
I always interpreted Regret's Flood form isn't _actually_ Regret. All of Regret's memories and personality would have been assimilated into the Flood consciousness, and we know that the Flood can use super cells to amalgamate into pure forms, so I took that as the Gravemind reconstituted a Regret-like avatar from raw Flood biomass, and then made it talk. It's actually pretty horrific when you think of it that way. It's just a bunch of necrotic flesh that the Gravemind is animating like a fucked-up sock puppet.
Either that or he's in a similar stage of infection as Keyes is the CE terminals where he's still quasi conscious but knows the flood is stripping him of his memories.
Although your idea is somehow worse. Using a reanimated rotting corpse as a rhetorical device to manipulate your enemies is just next level evil.
@@phoenixjones7191 this is my interpretation too, the Flood doesn't always have to digest the host completely. Part of its aesthetic is that it's necrotic, and with creatures that don't need to be reshaped for combat or building materials, they can just be immobilized, have their brains plugged into the biomass, and that's really all that needs to be done. The Gravemind does sometimes keep characters around like Luc said in the video too
Pretty sure his corpse wasn't finished assimilating. It still had jewelry on.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Jhonson survived the Destruction of the incomplete Halo in Halo 3 honestly
I miss him man, world feels a little less bright without him being in it no more
Word Sergent Johnson is a halo
Sgt Johnson & Sgt Forge dialogues about their return in the non canon playable Halo Wars 2 multiplayer characters are so funny to hear.
The one rare time I would be for writing a character back.
Bruh sergeant Johnson got infected but never fully as the flood infection form failed and then got the ability to heal like an axlotol
Sgt Axolotl reporting for duty
Because Johnson is that much of a Gigachad.
When I was in 3rd grade and played combat evolved for the first time, I figured that the little infection forms were the infected grunts
I thought the carriers were grunts coz of the elephant feet
both of those
@@psykology9299 Some of them are grunts.
-new video
-flood lore
-neurons activation
Perhaps the reason the covenant prophets weren’t turned into combat forms was due to their frail bodies but maybe they were still infected so that their vast knowledge of the covenant would be absorbed into the hive mind. And regret keeping his sanity (allegedly) was just the gravemind doing the same thing it did to the master builders wives and children
1:14 Also there's the detail you brought up of how Flood Jackal Snipers would've been Halo 2's versions of Combat Evolved's Rocket Flood but even worse to deal with.
Sorry guys, it’s my made up OC species that are immune. I never built it up or developed them, but trust me. They’re wayyy scarier than the flood!
Pray they are in fact precursors and that problem is solved.
But that’s impossible because how can 343 make FAN fiction when they totally completely Hate Halo? 🤔 The OC part is right though, the Endless are very original and i think that’s why I’m actually fascinated by them. I know this is an unpopular opinion but i don’t care: the Endless was the most interesting thing to me in Halo Infinite and I wish they revealed more. The Banished stuff just felt like “Old Man Yelling at Cloud”
it’s pretty clear the endless are a threat because of their connection to the mantle
Despondent Pyre states the only thing the forerunners feared more than the flood was losing their power, in the same game Cortana (who also has an interest in the mantle) says there’s something worse than the flood on zeta halo
there’s also a whole other part of that theory about how Cortana states a longer lifespan is essential for holding the mantle, and how the endless might not age/are biologically immortal (not invincible). Also if another separate theory is true it could explain how they survived the halo array
@@KingBossBob You've got the right idea. Most players nowadays are incapable of looking deeper than face value.
The stuff about the endless and their possible slipspace timestuff gives me an idea for a halo 7 id want.
Mr chef and the gang are trying to stop the endless now in a proper resurgence from activating some kinda slipspace mcguffin when its misactivated and sends chief back in time to the fall of the forerunners(lets say after the didact is put in his corner but before the forerunners lose the capability to do anything). The chief then needs to team up with the librarian to defeat the endless in the past before the flood are able to win whichd trigger the halos. Imagine going down with some forerunner commandos and knights to a flood world or fighting on an endless megastructure partially in slipspace and finishing it with a warthog run while the final battle between mendicant and offensive plays out in the skybox. And odsts could be there somehow
I feel safe in assuming the prophets aren't immune to the Flood. That Prophet aboard the ship Half-Jaw had to fight his way out of during CE in the Halo Legends comic sure wasn't immune.
Halo 3, Truth..........
Not just that, but the Flood can, and have, faked resistance/immunity in certain groups/individuals for the express purpose of misleading research, defensive efforts, and lowering vigilance over certain types of infected people. The biggest failure of the Forerunners was treating the Flood like an animal, and not a hyper-intelligence that merely used hyper-aggression as a mask for its more devious methods.
I have randomly become obsessed with flood lore once again there’s something oddly fascinating about them. Part of me kinda hopes that one day there will be a prequel to Halo that takes place during the final days before the Halo array is fired it would be interesting to see in a game just how bad the flood had become leading up to that point.
I wonder if the Infection form that tried to convert Mercy was just too weak, even weaker than the one that converted PFC W. Jenkins. So it was able to connect to Mercy's nervous system, but was too weak to actually start the conversion process.
that's probably why the gravemind started to directly consume him kinda like what happened to captain keyes (it appears i was talking about regret, not mercy)
Why would the flood waste an infection form to infect an elderly san shy'uum?
In regards to mercy fighting off the infection form maybe the gravemind was trying to extract information form the prophet rather than turning him and when chief pulled the infection form off him he also could have pulled some of his spine out with the infection form this truth died pretty instantly
While hunters can’t be infected I could see it’s shell being reused by the flood to make tank pure forms with hunter shells
I would love to see the flood vs the replicators from stargate. Especially the Milky Way type which are basically a mechanical version in Stargate lore. They are one of the few races that are also probably immune to the logic plague purely due to arrogance and just simply not engaging the flood in conversation long enough to be infected
I actually feel like grunts and jackals would be a good species for the flood to infect. Grunta are small compared to Chief, but kind of the same as humans and the flood loves infecting humans... Plus they are a pretty hardy species. I also feel like jackals would be parkour ninja flood form.
@HiddenXperia can you please do a video on unyielding threat? Its a flood horror mod, i think you'll love playing it!
More info?
In regards to the prophet of mercy not being turned into a combat form we were shown in a previous video that infection forms can choose not to infect a host they latch onto in favor of just consuming their hosts biomass so its likely that was what the infection form was doing to mercy eating him instead of infecting him.
In the halo “cryptum” book it is mentioned that the prophets species has a resistance to the flood’s infection. They were still susceptible but they had a strong resistance in fact the book even states that they could be infected by ancient humanity but infected prophets where unable to spread it to other species.
Infected by ancient humanity?
Pretty sure the sharquoi from envoy were immune. That’s why the forerunners made the mind control device
I want a game where you play through the entire war from Johnson’s perspective, Harvest to the Ark (with obvious time skips) and a mission where you get to escape Installation 04 as Johnson.
Respect to the Flood Immunity informed bus driver
I haven't played halo or a video game in at least 15 years still love your videos
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Whenever Jenkins got brought up in the video I remembered it was said that the reason Jenkins was able to wrestle for control from the infection form was because it was old and didn’t have enough strength, mayhaps it is the same case with the prophet? (I don’t remember which one it was bruh)
“Halo there”. Excellent chapter-ing good sir.
Makes you wonder if the Librarian's gift to Master Chief also made him truly immune to the Flood.
It still doesnt explain how Master Chief survived the attempted infection back in the Pillar of Autumn as the penetrator managed to break the skin and Mona Lisa proved that even a touch was enough to trigger an infection.
I remember a time when it was assumed the flood was all-consuming and that no species whatsoever could avoid the infection, even trees and other flora, and the assumption was that the early bungie games just didn’t have the budget to make a combat form out of each and every unit type, I remember a time when the flood was still scary
The Flood still are. Even if the Flood can't infect a species, they can still kill them and infect their AI with the Logic Plague.
I think the Endless is immune to the Flood because they are Precursors, so they technically see them as the same species and ignore them. I definitely think the Endless have a central nervous system. I doubt you can use Precursor NEURAL-Physics without one.
Also I seriously doubt that the Endless have time travel capabilities in a traditional sense. The Lore related to them involving the word “time” has been massively over analyzed What they have is being connected to Living Time. This isn’t Time Travel, it’s a Metaphysical Concept tied to the Mantle of Responsibility. You know who are also attuned to Living Time? The Forerunners and Master Chief. It’s basically the fabric of the Universe giving something plot armor. This is probably why the Forerunners did not purge them. They physically could, but it could have had massively detrimental consequences for the Universe just like the Flood did. Especially when the Reclaimer Symbols on Harbingers Armor is concerned…
They're not Precursors, the Precursors became the Flood
I have a theory that the gravemind has complete control over every flood supercell, It would explain regrets consciousness, as well as the arbiter not being infected in halo 2.
1 truth was being infected by flood spores, not an infection form, so it would have been slower Giving him time to To resist 2 the profit truth might have been stronger than we know
13:23 if the precursors created the Xalanyn as revenge. Man that would be one of the coolest stories ever in the Halo universe. Imagine if the Endless are indeed the true heirs of the precursors and then somehow they find a way to weaponize the Flood and use it for the reclamation of the Galaxy.
Halo wars 1 had infected jackals and grunts if I remember correctly just thought I would bring this small detail
He mentioned that at 1:29
HiddenXperia, talking to a jar of earthworms: you'll protect me from The Flood, right?
The flood are able to assimilate knowledge from an infected host, no? I believe that in Mercy's case, the infection form was targeting him for tactical knowledge and scanning/transmitting that while Mercy was still conscious. By the time Master Chief came by, the infection form had done it's job and just stayed there because the body was too weak for anything else.
Love the videos! But please update the flood lore playlist! 😁
Wasn’t Sergeant Johnson’s immunity retconned by Bungie? I could have sworn they made a statement or put out some sort of comic that said he just fought his way out, not that he was actually immune.
It could be that the first prophet did create an early and unfinished version of a cure which delays infection and is passed down through genetics but having the slightest downsides of becoming diluted with time hence why it didn’t really do much for the covenant prophets
food lore is just the best .
I imagine once there's an active gravemind, if an infection form gets ahold of a creature that wouldn't make a good combat form but has a lot of valuable information, they immobilize it and go into interrogation mode, like what happened to Keys. The infection form woud absorb its knowledge and either transmit it to the gravemind using telepathy, or just learn everything the host knows and scuttle off to the nearest hunk of biomass and plug itself in like a flash drive. Some other flood entity could come scoop up the husk for biomass later.
Too this day I still pray that 343I will make it Canon that SSGT Burns and SGT Slacker where apart of the Orion project...
Srgt Johnson is literally built different
Johnson being immune while the two squads were entirely wiped out got me thinking.
I love the series, but I was super disappointed by ODST. I was hoping for a tactical shooter, like a rainbow6, with the player being horribly outmatched (lore said at that point that humans were screwed, out numbered by a foe with superior weapons). Instead, we got ODST that played like they're Spartans, their personal energy shield was renamed "adrenaline", you could still easily kill a brute in melee, etc. I would still LOVE to get a tactical shooter in the Halo universe, playing as non-enhanced special forces, in scenarios that demand planning to overcome.
BUT tangent aside, but keeping with the idea of branching away from the super soldier run'n'gun game style.
What if, a horror survival game where you play as a regular human (marine or civilian), trying to survive a flood outbreak. Like Alien Isolation, but with the flood.
“Babe, would you still love me if I was a worm?” *realized she probably won’t be infected by the flood* “Yes.”
Frankly, there's a distinct possibility that Truth, Mercy and Regret were resistant to the Gravemind's influence because of the sheer size and power of their respective egos.
Truth especially is at the very height of his hubris, declaring "I SHALL BECOME A GOD" even as he's literally being eaten from the inside by the Flood AND throttled by the Arbiter.
Even the Gravemind's literal cosmic-scale ego pales in comparison to what a self-absorbed dickhead Truth is.
Weird to think that grunts and jackals arnt more valuble hosts than humans are. Considering the Jackals are straight up taller and more nimble (that one marine death in H4 on The Composer level is a great example) and Grunts may be smaller on average but they have a lot more mass, they could definitely put in way more force than any of us
As far as regret goes i think that was def a deliberate decision by the Gravemind so that all could be revealed to Arbiter and Chief
Hearing about the Prometheans being former elite warriors composed into digital essences and planted into robot bodies makes me wonder if we could ever see something like that for humans. Maybe Spartans get turned into AI and implanted into the Spartan robots that we saw in Infinite’s concept art? I know Halo likes its mirrors between humans and forerunners so idk
I like to think that all the grunts/jackals/drones that get converted into flood are almost exclusively the biomass that makes up the Gravemind and such. Good bodies = soldier, bad body = meat for the meat God
Wow what a great Video and Content you made....awesome!! Love it!!! Full of important facts and notions that help understand the world of Halo and I think also ours!
17:07 I think when the infection knew that Mercy wasn't combat form material, he was just eating him
Flood infected grunts appear as early as Halo CE. Take a close look at the carrier form's legs.
1:07 "chacales, gruñidos y drunes"
I'm more confused about this spanish translation, is even worst than I expected
Another interesting thing is that 343 continues prophets having a different relationship to the Flood. Infected Prophets would rarely infect other species.
Meanwhile Arbiter going through the infected locations in H2 Sacred Icon like nothing
I could've sworn Johnson being immune was retconned by 343 but you know what Nick fury says lol
For the Prophets, I'm willing to chalk it up to strong-willed individuals being able to fend off the mental control for a time even if their body fails. And Mercy's infection form may have been a weak one like Jenkins'
If the endless aren't a precursor faction I'm going to eat my chair
Your chair doesn't have to worry.
What about Prelates? Do you think they may have a degree of immunity?
Ok so this video proves that SRG Johnson is built mf different
Sgt. Johnson is not actually immune to the Flood. This was retconned by Bungie since Nylund sorta went against what they wanted for the Flood. It was first included as a thing in First Strike, But Bungie did not like the idea of anyone being immune to the Flood and then reiterated on numerous occasions that Johnson is not immune to the Flood and that Boren's Syndrome is simply a coverup of the Orion project.
9:40 confirmed Johnson is still alive
I don't think there are only 2 choices here. It's not just (a) become a combat form, or (b) be immune.
Keys and the Prophets were valuable intelligence targets for the Flood. I believe that the Flood absorbs the more intelligent entities more slowly, in order to keep their brains in tact and extract knowledge. There's no need to preserve a brain if you are just going to turn biomass into mindless combat-form drones, but Keyes and the Prophets needed to be handled carefully during the process.
I love the promethean’s in halo 4, it’s story is as deep as the forerunners themselves, and they came from the leader the Didact!😃
2:00 THE HUNTERS THAT MAKE UP THE WORMS!? AM I MISSING SOMETHING?
If the flood come back in the future I want them to win. Grow so far and wide that chief has to Hail Mary to fire the entire array to prevent them. Just imagine chief, arbiter, maybe a couple squads of ODSTs, and some marines being all that’s left on one remaining ship. Always on the backstep, always fleeing. A dark future of the halo galaxy. It’s like the necromorphs. If it keeps coming back it was always meant to win. The flood is the great filter.
There's a comic about the shipmaster Rtas. There was a minor prophet that got infected.
The irony of eating popcorn while watching a flood video is quite something
@HiddenXperia I have a thought question for you and everybody else here in the comments. A little backstory first. The other day I was talking with my brother who just turned 21, and I myself am 26. Not a significant age gap. Personally, I grew up playing Halo. My cousin introduced it to me when I was about five or six and I fell in love with the game instantly. So, naturally when my brothers came along I tried to share it with them as well, because I have such a passion for the game and the story. Now that we are older, this brother that I was talking to plays a lot of the reboot modern warfare series as well as warzone. I personally don't have a lot of interest in the reboot series, nor do I enjoy war zone or Battle royals in general. Multiplayer isn't really my thing.
Now when my brother and I were talking the other day, he is currently playing through the Halo 5 campaign. As we were talking about it he was saying that he liked the older Bungie era Halos because they felt nostalgic and he likes to remember growing up with me and playing them together. But from a gameplay perspective, he says he likes Halo 5 more. (He also hasn't played Infinite yet.) Now in his own words, he says that he likes the gameplay for Halo 5 because " it feels more like a 'his generation' game, while the older Halos feel more like a 'my generation' game." He says that Halo 5 feels, "more faster paced" and "more like Call of Duty" so that's why he likes it.
Now the question. Honestly, when he said that, it kind of struck a nerve with me. Not with him, but with what he said. I don't think that Halo should feel like Call of duty. I think that Halo should look and feel like you're playing Halo. And Call of Duty should look and feel like Call of Duty. Now, I'm not against admitting that I may be a little biased. That's true. However, liking both of those game series, or at least the older Call of Duty games, I feel like both games should have their own distinct feel and style. Is there going to be some bleed over? Absolutely. That can't be avoided. But for my brother to say that he likes one because it feels like the other kind of irks me. So my question is, what do y'all think? What is your guys's opinion on this? Do you think it's okay that Halo 5, in the words of a younger person, is like Call of Duty? Or do you think that it's okay if the games are similar? Or is there a point of view or thought here that I am just not seeing? Let me hear your thoughts please.
His eyes always stare deep into my soul. It’s kind of scary…kind of hot.
If ships in slipspace were unaffected then, due to proliferation of slipspace drive, amount of ships and population of those, then it is possible that some ships or even whole fleets were in transit and survived halo fireing.
Maybe Mercy's infection form was just a weak one like how Jenkins was able to wrestle back sentience since his infection form was old
I want a flood grunt form so bad. Grunts are crustaceans and have an exoskeleton right? Its their main evolutionary protection. So how's this
A flood form that rolls/semicrawls on 4 limbs.
Like a Ferrero Rocher, has a decently hard shell, but an oh so goo goodness center that when you kill it, has a satisfying pop, but leaves a pool of acidic and/or flammable juice all over the floor.
It could have a bunch of cool interactions with a sandbox/gameplay. Plus seeing this thing roll around with malicious intent sounds amusing and horrible
Aren't the San'shyuum so genetically messed up that it could maybe help them slow down the infection? Like maybe the messed up genes are affecting the central nervous system in a way that might not avoid infection, but slow it down a bit?
I was going to comment on why they didn't augment the others like they did Johnson but then I remember most of the Orion project people were not mentally stable.
I don't think the Endless could be immune. What if they were locked away because should the Flood ever infect their species they could become immune to the Halo Array? That thought is terrifying itself.
In halo wars one you can see infected jackals in infected grunts
Thats why mr Johnson smokes alot. Just rebuilds everything
as far as the huragok [engineers], there is another species of engineers created with their purpose being to repair organic lifeforms. these are lifeworkers.
My theory was truth had the infection b4 leaving high charity and it chose not to surface till after his encounter with cheif and the arbiter
Honestly the exploding forms always looked like grunts in the games.
"How you doing,"graaaaaaagghhh
Thanks mate!!!
Cortana knows how the endless is immune to the flood, there species are going to have endless potential in the next halo campaign!😃
Wait what about the Prelots? They have augmentations like the Spartans should they not have some extra protection against flood?
Well that was another banger video. The Great Journey to 1 million subs has begun.
If humans could find a way to modulate the frequency of the electrical impulses could that be a cure for flood infection since they wouldn’t be able to form a resonating frequency…
I do wonder of all the other video games lore, what l franchise would be able to stop a flood outbreak
Matybe the spore grabbed mercy so he could get get his memories
Now I want to question if it has any biomass but not a nervous system can't they still be brought into the flood via being brought into the biomass of gravemind or a flood hive
it makes you wonder how the ancient humans where able to keep both the flood and the forrunners at bay for so long
Bad writing is how.
Because ancient humanity was nearly on par with the forerunners. They had the capacity for limited use of neural physics which allowed them to continue fighting. They also used a very aggressive approach to fight the flood which is why the forerunners even took notice of them. Once the flood decided to step back is when it was to late to win
@@SuperTheast hmm still makes you wonder if the humans knew something the forrunners did not