Protestant Becomes Latter Day Saint! w/ David Boice
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- David Boice of @52churchesin52weeks returns to Mormon Book Reviews to discuss with Steven Pynakker why he decided to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After writing a book and starting a UA-cam channel David talks about visiting over 100 churches and why he chose to be baptized into the Restoration.
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Congratulation David, I joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints 47 years ago, from a Lutheran influenced denomination, and have never looked back, I KNOW it’s THE TRUE CHURCH, keep learning, keep growing, keep loving ❤❤
Research the book of Abraham. Joseph Smith lied.
Wishing you all the best in your journey. You may want to consider the following quote: "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." [attributed to Mark Twain].
@@scottvance74Mark Twain could very well be correct, but just know this also, that this quote works in all directions, you me, me you 🙏😇
@@gerritvandewal6113You stole my thoughts 😊
How do you justify that the apparent unchanging full gospel is statically dynamic? How about Joe Smith Jr and he s weeks worth of child brides. How about the murders Brigham Young savagely ordered at Mountain Meadows? How about Brigham Young's very young child brides? You have the full truth🤣🤣🤣🤣
David 'yielded to the enticings of the Holy Spirit'. He was open to the influence. His life will be changed for the eternities.
It says something that a true seeker of truth, one that has spent time in multiple denominations, chose to be baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Only shows his ignorance and gulliblity .
@@davidjanbaz7728damn you showed us. I'm going to remove my records from the church now...
Like not. Do you think this actually does anything bro? There's many things you can add to the conversation without being hateful. I have many conversations about why I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and they tell me why they believe otherwise.
Mat shows how smart and good he is .
"The church of jesus christ of latter day saint is the only true and living church upon the face of the earth in which i the lord iam pleased " said Jesus christ to joseph smith in 1830
Or it just shows maybe it’s the right church for him. There’s no one true church.
David you were baptised in the church of jesus christ of latter-day because you were humble to the spirit to teach you. You were able to recognise the truth when you found it. Very few people can see that truth you found. Iam from africa kenya and i met missionary 30 years ago when i was 14year and they baptised me. I keep thanking heavenly father and jesus christ now for that decision i made. You are an elect of the lord jesus christ
Got to be pretty sick to be attracted to this filth 🤮
I’m so amazed that you could be so kind and gracious to David’s journey. That is truly the way Christ would have us be. Congratulations to David on finding joy in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. With its prophets apostles and love of all things Christ
Good for David! I'm proud of him. He has taken a long hard look in many different churches, found out what he was looking for and found that in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
And yet the journey has just begun. Baptism does not close the door, it opens the door and now we have the rest of this life and the rest of eternity to continually improve and come closer to our Father in Heaven.
Steve, please request a priesthood blessing for your sickness. David, thank you for sharing your testimony. It speaks volumes about the truthfulness of the restored gospel.
People have been asking him to do so for quite a while. If he hasn't done so yet, I don't think he will.
I hope he does and with faith!
I thought he did that a few weeks ago if I heard right.
David, I didn't know that you had to give up beer! That's impressive. I'm proud of you. Congratulations on getting the Aaronic priesthood soon! It is so exciting ☺️. The preparatory priesthood! Can you even believe it? ❤
Steven, I don't understand your sadness at all. Doesn't the parable of the lost coin, or the lost sheep, or the lost son make you shout for joy for David and for his Savior Jesus Christ and for his heavenly father?! Can't you see that David has found the gate that leads to eternal life. The greatest of all the gifts of God. The gate that few find and enter in at. This is such AMAZING NEWS!!! We are not sad at all. We have immeasurable joy!!🎉
David, your whole Orah has changed. You look so happy and at peace with your soul. Congratulations!!!!
Did you mean aura?
David is such an inspiring individual with an incredible faith journey that is almost too impossible to believe - unless you believe in miracles! The statement (paraphrasing) "You visited over 100 churches and the LDS church is the one you chose" is such a powerful testament of which church is the Lord's church on the Earth today. Congratulations, David for entering the Covenant Path! We know you will be attacked from all angles, but stay strong and hold on to the witness you received from our Heavenly Father. We are all praying for you. Your entire World family are here for you!
compliment to David's spiritual nature
Very touching conversation between two respectful brothers. I can feel the love you have for each other. You will be friends for the rest of your lives and you are setting an example as to how we should support each other no matter what decisions we make in life. ❤
Thank you for this beautiful, respectful interview. The spirit of brotherhood, love and understanding was certainly evident.
I have listened to both of your channels and have enjoyed the respect for others you both have. You are both good men. We need your loving spirit in this world.
I have been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints since I was baptized at age 8. I am 80 now and have had a wonderful life learning and growing and having a beautiful Pioneer heritage to be proud of.
I have had a good, happy life, trying to keep out of trouble and trying to be more like Jesus every day.
I'm so thankful for our Dear Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ.
David experienced a mighty change of heart by exercising faith in Jesus Christ. Please let me add my witness that I too know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints is the Lord's restored church on the Earth today. Joseph Smith received the keys of priesthood authority to restore the Savior's church on the Earth prepatory to His return. We have a prophet again on the Earth today, Russell M. Nielson. Everyone is invited to study the Book of Mormon and pray about it's truthfulness. Those who do with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Jesus Christ can come to know by the power of the Holy Ghost that it is true. A witness from the Holy Ghost is the most sure form of witness that it is true. I have received that witness innumerable times.
"How long can you kick the tires?!?" Great comment! And so applicable to your faith journey! I'm a True Believing Mormon" of 68 years. I am so grateful that my dear Mother invited the Sister Missionaries into our home for coffee (no, they didn't accept the coffee) down in Southeast Texas all those years ago. Welcome, David! We are far from perfect, but we've got a grasp on it and we love the Lord!
Congrats David. My maternal grandfather was Lutheran, his wife was presbyterian, and my mother grew up attending the local presbyterian church but upon visiting a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saint church meeting she said she had never felt such incredible feelings. She listened to the missionary discussions about restorationist teachings and she was converted after feeling strong spiritual feelings. My paternal grandmother was also presbyterian and her and some siblings were also touched by the spiritual experiences in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and joined years before my mother. And so we are another set of Protestants who converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I can definitely understand the sense of loss on the part of protestant members when my mother, grandmother, and some of her siblings left. But the incredible spiritual manifestations felt at church and in temples was icing on the cake of additional/clarifications to previous held beliefs. It makes so much sense to me of God being our actual father and gives purpose of what we are becoming/preparing for in life, and where we are going. I understand how difficult that may be for my protestant brothers/sisters who hold firmly to protestant Christian thought about doctrine of trinity, sola scriptura, etc. I respect it. After all, that's where my family came from since the inception of protestantism in the 1500's. Before that, it was catholicism. So respect all around. One of the articles of our faith is to let all men worship, how, where, or what they may, understanding God will not force the mind of any man, woman, or child, but uses the principles of love and gentle persuasion and allow his holy spirit to work within us as we decide to allow room in our hearts for new paradigms.
I knew the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day of Saints was true on my knees. Once The Holy Ghost communicated The Book of Mormon is the word of God, I knew He knew that I knew. Now what? I chose to obey. That was 1975.
Welcome David. The House of The Lord (temple) is a wonderful goal and experience, that we are blessed to experience over and over.
PS I love the red cardinal visits
Beautiful testimony. People will say we go by our “feelings?!” It’s NOT that we go by our feelings. We humbly study the scriptures and ask GOD what’s true! The spirit does communicate with us through the Holy Ghost as you know and THAT is a special knowledge given only to those who honestly and humbly seek truth. When you know you KNOW deep in your soul!! ❤
Love these two bros.
I love David so much. His channel has been a favorite of mine for a few years. He's humble and asks amazing questions. Thank you for having him on. Steve, I had a friend who had tinnitus problems for many years. It's truly awful. Praying for you.
Because he was sincere at his look at many churches! I can't say that at all about Pastor Jeff! He's always looking to get views and he seems to use our faith to get gain. It's sad really.
@@stardustgirl2904 yeah, he seems to be a nice guy. But he says rude things in such a nice way that you have to think twice sometimes. I stopped watching long ago. After he'd gotten through a few books in the Book of Mormon. It was just a waste of my time, honestly, and I realized that and stopped watching.
Pastor Jeff is a classic example of passive aggressive behavior. We get insulted constantly by him, but gosh, isn't he just so nice the way he says it that we certainly can't take it wrong. Meaning it's us that's the problem, not him (in his eyes), he's just trying to make us see the error of our ways. Good riddance to him.
In this day and age, TRUTH, is always being attacked❗️🙏🏻✨️And the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saint's is always constantly being attacked ❗️✨️🙏🏻✨️💜🤗That's because it's True❗️💯👍🏻
The world 🌎 is such a mess , we desperately need a living Prophet to guide us in these latter day's! 🌷🌻🌷✨️🙏🏻✨️💜A Prophet is so needed and I'm so thankful for our Prophet!❤ People seem to forget, that the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saint's, has members from so many other churches!
Except the book of Mormon presents a different gospel (Galatians 1:8) than historical Biblical Christianity does:
1. The gospel according to Mormonism: people can make themselves "right with God" only through following religious acts, commandments and ordinances, in order to prove themselves and earn God's favour, but can never be sure of that favour. There is no salvation outside of the Mormon church.
2.The gospel according to Historical Biblical Christianity: Jesus paid the debt we owed as sinners - He made a way for us to be made righteous with God, by grace not works. "He saved us, not on the basis of deeds we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing by the Holy Spirit (Titus 3:5). "But God showed His great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners" (Romans 5:8).This is the gospel the good news of the Bible. Jesus paid the debt we owed, He made a way for us to be made right with God through faith, apart from our works which are filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). Salvation is a gift we accept by faith. Jesus is our substitute our mediator. We don't need a religion, an organization or a prophet to stand between us and God, only Jesus is that mediator (1 Timothy 2:5-6) :
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Nice to see you Steve, and always nice to see David.
You both represent our Lord in the best way, being true to yourself.
Such wholesomeness from two wonderful gentlemen. Keep up the great work brothers. We are all enlisted!
Glad you were able to do this awesome interview, Steven! Will be keeping you in my prayers for a quick recovery.
Praying for you Steven. For your health and for your journey to truth! Jesus is the source of all truth and light!
David could not have planned this.
But God can.
Thank you Steve for a great and respectful interview. David strengthens my own testimony. I feel the Spirit from both of you.
You are both beautiful spirits. God bless you both💟 🙏🛐
Whether you know it or not, you two are doing a great work by bringing all the Restoration branches together. It is much overdue.
YES!!! SO important!!
An LDS plant? That's hilarious. 😂 So glad you shared that. I needed a good laugh today. 🤪
This is your journey and your path David . I don’t understand why people are sad about his choice. We each have to find your own salvation.
I knew ex-Mormons were going to create these stories about him. They are doing it with David Alexander. They also love searching for past mistakes of people and bringing them back.
Yeah, it seems like these people don't believe in the atonement. David Alexander had been very open about his weaknesses and mistakes. He has changed so much. To dig up someone's past is to deny that Christ can change people.
@@crazyaboutcardsyeah, the active exmo life sometimes is so toxic. That’s one of many reasons why I decided to come back to the Church. I didn’t want to be in those toxic groups anymore. They are so focused on the mistakes and in the past history.
@Irvingdector glad you came back. We need you. The scriptures are full of mistakes and crazy things. Moses, Abraham, Jonah, Samson, and more. Peter denied Christ three times in one night. Why are we expecting perfection from more modern leaders? God works with what he has, and things change slowly because people tend to change slowly.
Am glad that David voice eyes were open to see the beauty of the restoration of fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ for me I do know the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints is true even though anti LDS are trying to fight it.the church will stand independent forever because its directed by Jesus Christ himself through his living prophet and apostles..thank you MBR and David voice for the channel am your brother from Uganda .bless you.
Steve I’ve been praying for your health.
So happy for both of you. You are both great lovers of your Saviour. David I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It has blessed my life beyond measure. There are wonderful people in many churches. What the restoration has a great responsibility to share the events that I brace the need of the restoration.Joseph smith gave so much up to carry out his calling of the restoration. Had so much heart aches and persecution through his short life.even giving up his life. If it was just something he had prefabricated, he would have backed out years before he had his life taken. He had nothing to gain. But he knew what he saw, and was instructed to do he never faltered . Never claimed to be perfect but never denied what he knew to be true. Very few would or could do what he did, with all he sacrificed for his Saviour and the difficult calling he was given. Stay strong, your discussion was your Heavenly Father’s blessing to you for seeking truth. I know as well as I live that the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true.the Holy Ghost has bird a sure testimony of that to me.
Thanks Steve for having David on. As a faithful latter-day saint, ill say the same thing i did when you had Nick Jones on, who is the bishop who recently resigned -
we need to listen and appreciate people where they are. I can never question anyone for following their conscience - we ought to celebrate that, as it takes enormous courage. Kudos to all who do that, whether it leads them into or out of the church.
David, I have a lot of admiration for what you have done and so publicly at that. As you alluded to, you have to wade through a lot of filth to get to the solid ground and see the fruits of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. As someone who grew up in the church, I started out with the fruit and developed a love for the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith and saw how much good it brought into my life before I was even exposed to the fog of contention that surrounds the church on the internet and so forth. So I have a lot of admiration for what you have done, and what you are going through.
Also Steve, much respect and admiration for you. This couldn’t have been an easy video to make and the temptation to join the crowd of accusers must be strong as well as the blow back you surely receive from your own community. I hope you get well soon. Much love.
Why insult other church’s? That’s not very Christian.
@@CanadianAnglican did I insult other churches? I have nothing against any church. Im just referring to the slander you have to wade through as soon as you express any interest in joining the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS. David also acknowledged that he had to get through a lot of accusation before he saw the good in the church.
It’s not just other Christian influencers, but it’s former members of our own church, secular sources, one’s own family in a lot of cases. I’m just saying that it’s very difficult to get past that and see the beauty of the Church of Jesus Christ. I’m sure it’s very difficult for David as a public person to read everything from the internet etc.
I love David's answer about how he feels now: "peace and protection." These divine blessings are so important for spiritual progress. ) Thanks for sharing this.
Steve, respect to you for your efforts to do good. Thanks for this interview of David. Praying your Tinnitus is healed soon. I can't stand when anyone is hurting. I understand the purpose as it relates to Jesus Christ in helping us understand a little of what he felt just enough for me to realize Christ suffered my pains and sicknesses and i have my own painful bouts of depression/anxiety, and hip pain. But he also heals. So praying a miracle for you.
My wife was raised a Catholic and when she was a young girl she decided to go visit different churches in East London, South Africa. She found the "Mormon" church after visiting several other churches and decided to join the "Mormon" Church. She was also very impressed with the friendliness of the members.
Congratulations David and we're looking forward for you Steve coming unto Christ, too! ❤❤❤😊
Thank you so much for this discussion . Seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened up to you. I see good and bad in all religions of the world. I have read the Quran, Bible and The Book of Mormon, as well as living in Thailand for two years with 95% of the people being Buddhist. If people would follow the teachings in each of these books and religions, the world would be a better place to live for everyone!!
May God heal your tinnitus! - former tinnitus sufferer.
Team Restoration wins in the End. ❤
Wonderful interview. Happy for David. I Hope you get better soon, Steven.
Br Boice, you are courageous, kind, and such an inspiration!
Thank you, David, I have enjoyed watching your journey. Thank you Steve for being civil about the whole thing. Let’s appreciate David for his honest efforts and be kind in our comments. Let’s not be snotty regardless of which side you view this from.
Good for you David! All the best now and forever.
Thank you both! I am learning so much from your perspectives. It is because of your honest and respectful conversations that I enjoy listening and following your journeys. Thank you for being gentle with each other and gentle with “the restoration churches.” I love your devotion to Christ’s gospel! Keep shining!! 🌟
Nice interview. Thanks for posting this. Prayers for improvement in your health issues.
What a beautiful soul!!! Score for Jesus!
Congratulations David 🙌❤️🙏
Congratulations David, you have witnessed the ‘fruits’ of the Restored Gospel, and that combined with the witness of the Holy Ghost is why I believe you have joined. God has a marvelous plan for you. Continue speaking your testimony by the spirit and meekness of Jesus Christ and God will bring forth fruit that will remain through your Christlike efforts.
Congrats brother
Our lord our god
Jesus christ love's you❤
always keep our faith to God 🙏
“God does notice us and He watches over us. But it is usually through another mortal that He meets our needs. Therefore, it is vital that we serve each other." I believe Spencer W. Kimball made this statement. When we are Serving those around us, I believe our Father in Heaven is pleased. I believe you both are trying to travel this path. Thank you!! You are both in my prayers:-)
Both amazing men. Thanks brothers
What I have liked about both of you, neither of you criticize and I believe when that happens, hearts are opened on both sides of the isle. Thanks
Wow...that part when if it wasn't for other LDS churches. ..you probably won't get baptized. I never seen it that way. I love this perspective. Super interesting
I was born and raised in Provo Utah. Served an LDS mission in Toronto for 2 years. Fell away from the church after moving to Texas 18 years ago and became active again about 5 years ago. I just discovered you from Andrea's Xertus channel. Just subbed and looking forward to learning more about this channel and your work. 👁️👍🔔
I've followed you both around the same time on youtube. Interesting how you both evolved and learned so much about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It's been fascinating to see you both grow.
Thanks for being an inspiration and revealing to the accusers the difference between research and false narratives. May your covenant journey be guarded by your strengthening testimony. We're only as strong as our exercise. Go well. And thank you to this channel for your courage to have an open heart ❤️
We love you brother Boice! we are very joyfull for you to be one true follower of our Savior and Redeemer. We love brother Pynakker as well. Praying for your physical health to be back, soon.
I once loved beer...haven't had any since returning to the church...and don't miss it! I've heard some members, often in Europe, do drink non alcoholic beer for the taste without the effects.
Thank you for keeping the conversation respectful to each other. You are both good men. Steve, I have suffered for over 10 years from tinnitis and hearing loss after using an antibiotic. It is a thorn in my side. I pray yours will improve. God bless you both as you strive to follow our Savior, Jesus Christ.
That is one thing I've noticed watching your videos, David, that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does differently. We are so focused on learning to receive personal revelation and learning to feel the spirit. This skill is learned and cultivated through the work we do at church. Members of the congregation teach the lessons, give the talks, we have people we are assigned to minister to, doing service projects. We are taught to do these things through the spirit, prayer, scripture study, and fasting. Yes, it's a lot of work at times but sooo worth it. We often comment that the lesson or talk we are assigned to give was actually meant for ourselves, that we learn so much from teaching. It is our blessing. We grow closer to God and Christ through these things. We learn to hear him. He walks with us as we work. It's so awesome!
Yay, Aaronic priesthood!!
Steve, I am praying for your complete and rapid recovery from your health issues. David, I am so happy that you have found a spiritual home. Don't listen to the haters. God has led you to where you belong. Much love to both of you.
Steven, I loved your sign off. "Brothers in Christ". Beautiful. I have a split family that comes from Mormons and Protestants. We all love one another and believe our Father has love for all his children regardless of what we call ourselves. Love is so much greater than identitarianism.
Awesome thanks for sharing this Steve and wishing you David all the best in your new journey.👍
Congrats David! I converted to the Church with my wife over a decade ago and it’s been the absolute greatest thing to ever happen to us! God Bless You Bother! 🙏🏼
You guys are great! Thanks for the interview Steve!
Thanks guys! Great interview and example to everyone of brotherhood in Christ.
Thank you so much, Steve, for your respect and open-mindedness. It can be very frustrating being a member and wanting to emulate God's love and Christ's love (as we are taught to do), and being constantly attacked. It is a big and scary choice to adapt one's beliefs, no matter one's religion, and making an effort to have patience with others' beliefs and compassion is HUGE in my book, and not easy.
Wonderful David, do your all to be like Jesus Christ, by helping others 🙏 ❤️, that the Lord's Church purpose is to help, the poor and needs 🙏 ❤️ all around the world 🌎 🙏, is the global Church ⛪️, the Lord's Church, The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints 🙏 💙, Yes we are all children of our Havenly Parents, we are all brothers and sisters 💙 ❤️
The true gospel of Jesus Christ was "restored" through Joseph Smith translating the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God. There is no need to "reform" it or change it. God is the same now and forever.
Steve praying u get better soon man! Tinnitus aww man thats gotta be horrible.
My husband has an inner ear condition called Menieres. Some of his symptoms are tinnitus, vertigo and hearing loss. He tells me how much his hearing aids block out the tinnitus. I hope this helps.
I’m happy for you David. You come across as a great person. Whatever faith makes you happy go for it. My parents converted from Mormonism to Catholicism right at the time I was born in the 1950’s. They are both passed now. They encouraged us to find our own religion and were happy when my sister converted to Mormonism as a teenager. My other sister converted to Greek Orthodox and again my parents were thrilled. They even were great with me dropping religion altogether as they saw the content of my character plus I never agreed with any faith that treated LGBTQ folks as second class.
When I was baptized I didn’t even realize I was joining a church. I thought I was just getting baptized, which would remit my sins, by genuine priesthood authority - like milk and honey with no money and no price. Or a gift offered freely to me. Then I began absorbing instructions about obedience and being “called” by priesthood authority to do this or that. It was an adjustment. And little by little I became acclimated to the culture and to the commonly quoted refrain that “obedience is better than sacrifice “. Living this way has helped me fashion a life much fuller than it would have been without all my efforts to be obedient. But I wonder sometimes if my own creativity and capacity to be governed and led by the Holy Spirit was diminished in the midst of this drive to be obedient. But I definitely was not shopping for a church when I received the ordinance of baptism.
In modern times, these two are the greatest thing that has happened to the LDS church!
Steve I really love you man. You've got such a great heart. One thing I don't understand is why are you sad when people join the LDS church? Hope you're feeling better these days.
Love both of your shows very much, and feel you both are good guys. I'm not the most eloquent, nor feel texts aren't the best way to communicate,so I will keep it short. I like how you both aren't critical of others faiths... So I will list why I feel and actually know the best one can, that there is a loving Father in Heaven, and He knows us, sets up circumstances that will best help us Hear His voice, recall old knowledge we gained in the Preexistence. As I see He has done in both of your lives. I was on an LDS mission in Scotland and N Ireland in 79-81, So many things showed me ( with all do respect to others faiths) That my upbringing, culture, faith, doctrine , fruits especially were all because of my heritage of being a Latter day Saint. We aren't perfect,but North Ogden Utah was nearly Heaven, the Brits became my friends,but I'm so so glad my 5th Grandfather and others gave up a lot in the UK mostly, and moved to Utah, made a dessert blossom as a rose. The UK kids were so sadly lost, many in the dole, had little desire to work, marry have kids, even move out of their Mums flat. But all that said I knew it was right and right for me, but still not quite confident it was right for them, So I prayed the hardest I had ever up to that point, was humbled, listening, and a very Strong almost indescribable light, love, acknowledgement, comfort started at the top of my head as I was nealing and burned from my crown as it were the light of a copying machine flowing throw down my body, no words but a strong impression I was there to do Heavenly Father's and Christ's work to bring salvation to those there. But beyond that as I look back over decades, that their families because of Modern Prophets direction, and well ran Kingdom, that their lives would have been better, as the Gospel through Christ's atonement makes us better. Now sadly there are over 1500 Churches in the UK that closed then later became Mosques. Fewer even believe in God... I hoped that if not joining mine that they would attend their own. Second It's a long story but I was adopted at birth, raised as I said in N Ogden under beautiful Ben Lomond, 75 miles South in Utah Valley in early 80s I felt I was driving into a four mile dome of micro Prisms( like millions of pencils that were the spectrum like a rainbow with a shiney bright white shiney end, ya I know sounds crazy, byt true)( kinda reminded me if your experience going to ti the Temple the first time David), I felt lots of emotions all at the same time, happy, sad,new , old, dajavu to the 10th power, boiled down to 'Home,' anyway, I thought maybe it's my ancestors home, nah I thought its too close to N. Ogden anyway at the end of the day coming back up I-15 it wasnt nebulous but it was something getting warmer, and warmer, like the "button " game, it got very hit, and I prayed in my head "God , you better give me a clue or I will miss it" not expecting an answer, esp verbally, but I heard firmly, calmly, lovingly " Be at peace, I will let you know, don't worry about it" I was happy but a bit shocked, questioning my sanity, what had just transported, then it was getting even hotter, I said the same prayer, and amazingly I got the same verbal answer. Then it cooled down, and I knew it was a 15 acre park off I -15 in American Fork, to make it shorter , years later when I met my Birth Parents, it was my 5th Grandfathers Edward Robinsons Homestead! He was the first train conductor on the Rocket the first train, after his son, my 4 th Grandfather was a very near death infant, a young Brighter Young blessed him to live to a ripe old age of which he did 85, so Ed joined the faith in Manchester, his life and posterity have been richly blessed because if it,as yours to will be Brother Boyce... As Utah is rated number one state by US Business Mag, for many reasons, though again not perfect, and I understand ethicetrucism, But it like the Temples are a refuge from the world,though satan is doing his best to beat up the USA and Utah( Etc) where ever the Saints are, and they are Zion also,I miss Utah but Queen Creek and Gilbert, Az are nice too, with strong members. So sorry it's still long,but have been wanting to communicate with both of you for nearly 2 years, respect you both..... My God continue to bless us... PS I felt a strong hunch you Bro David would join, and Steve you also in a couple more years,. ;)
Thank you
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Glad Steve, you are feeling somewhat better.
David it's great to see and hear you too :)
I followed David's "52 Churches in 52 Weeks" journey for about the last year. I knew the first time I saw it he would join the LDS Church. It is one of the few churches that offers the social acceptance that he was most seeking. Nothing wrong with that and I pray he finds long term happiness.
David, you're awesome and I'm happy for you and your journey. Steve I hope you recover soon. Have you had a priesthood blessing from and LDS Melchizedek Priesthood holder?
Steve, if your tinnitus is ringing in your ears, I have had that issue for over 20 years and have learned to live with it. Or does yours have pain with it? Didn’t know it could be healed:) 🙃🙏
Stephen, I am sad your health is still causing challenges for you. I was also sad to hear you say you were sad when David joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After all the time you have spent studying the Restoration, I hoped you would have been happier about his decision. It seems you supported David in his faith journey before he got baptized, and now you are disappointed in his choice.
I'm happy for David. I'm more sad about the state of affairs in the evangelical community
Thank you for this clarification. I too was a little confused as you mentioned your sadness. Small misunderstanding. You’re a good man Steven, I will pray for you and hope you experience healing.
@@MormonBookReviewsOH…. I took it as they did too! I thought you were sad he joined which I was surprised since your whole channel is about the Book of Mormon.
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Yeah maybe David can give Steve a blessing for his illness. 🦖
Hopefully Steve is better before David receives the Melchizedek Priesthood. That will most likely be months away.
Breaks my heart he clearly was never shown the true gospel within his mainstream Christian churches and was lead astray by the false doctrines of Jesus that Paul even warned us about in the NT.
I'd love to hear his feelings about the Book of Abraham.
How about 52 temples in 52 weeks?
As a former Mormon I think you are looking mainly for a community. Hopefully you will find that in your new journey. For me it is only about Jesus. I never judge a church by the leaders or people. I don't think God gives a hoot what church you go to as long as you put your faith in Jesus.He is the WAY, the Truth (All about Love) and the LIFE (Eternal LIFE). LOVE GOD, LOVE PEOPLE. Jesus said these are the two great commandments. So I would say love your new community but ALWAYS love Jesus more. ❤❤❤
Well said!
If the church didn't matter, I wonder why Jesus Christ's apostles spent time to organize a church and then ordain apostles, elders, and deacons.
I wonder if they introduced unnecessary church practices.
As a current Mormon I think he was paying attention to source of all truth. My hats off to him to be able to cut through the chorus of negativity and focus on the still small voice.
Mormon did not convert me it was the holy spirit I received my witness by reading and praying from the Book of Mormon it's true the church of Jesus Christ has been restored with all its eternal blessings
Many churches only 1 Gospel 1 covenant path back to the father
@@gbengoosewuru4139 I don't have a problem with church. There are lots and lots of churches. There should be at least one for everyone if they need that community. David has apparently found one that he feels will work for him. It did not work for me. It works for my 3 kids, their spouses and most of my grandkids. I raised my kids in the LDS church because I'm pioneer stock and live in Utah. When I was raising my kids it was great to have the community and structure. I had lots of misgivings about some of the beliefs especially eternal polygamy but I would rationalize my way through any questions. Now I find I only need Jesus and my ABBA (God-Daddy) He has ALWAYS been with me whether I go to a church or not. I have had lots of miracles in my life and NEVER had a priesthood blessing to get one. ABBA just answers my prayers and loves me unconditionally. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I believe Jesus died on the cross for the WHOLE world just like it says in the New Testament (New Covenant). That would include Catholics, Protestants, LDS, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, etc and Sinners. He defeated death and Satan on the cross. ❤️❤️❤️ He came to show the Father's LOVE. ❤️❤️❤️
Now we are to be One with Him like He was One with the Father and show and spread that LOVE. ❤️❤️❤️
También en español, please.
Steve, Are you LDS the Mormon Book Reviews brother?
I really appreciate David's authenticity, unlike Pastor Jeff.
Tinnitus? Talk to your dentist about nocturnal bruxism. I'll bet that fixes the deal. Sometimes associated with dizziness too.
Any chance you can change your channel to: Book of Mormon reviews, or Latter-day Saint reviews, or something else? David is great, welcome him as a fellow Saint.
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Can anyone fill me in on who this Prominent Evangelical is who impacted his decision to get baptised? TY 🙏
@thatwifeofhis7815 - Two pastors named Allen Parr and Brian Dwyer on Parr's channel The Beat. It's the episode titled Mormonism: A Satanic Perversion of Christianity. Dwyer was especially antagonistic. Truly sickening to watch if you are a Latter-day Saint. Sooo many inaccuracies and flat-out lies and disrespect. Even the countenance in their faces show the spirit of contention. Definitely not the light of Christ. As David mentioned as leading to his decision, "by their fruits ye shall know them."
You probably got an answer already, but in another interview he mentioned it was Allan Parr (spelling?)
As an evangelical I am happy for you either way and think Mormons can be good Christian’s too. I do mourn for your craft beer though. If your craft beer is only 3 to 4% alcohol it would technically fall under the 1800’s term of “mild drinks of barley” used in the word of wisdom.
That said, your bishop may not understand it that way so it could still get you in trouble. The process of making beer of course kills a lot of pathogens in the water so back then beer with a moderate amount of alcohol was safer than plain water and wouldn’t get you drunk if you only had 1 or two and ate at the same time.
I don’t. They follow a false prophet and a false gospel. Being a sweetie and loving Jesus isn’t enough.
It’s interesting because fundamentalist groups (like the FLDS) drink beer still. They see the WOW as a suggestion not a commandment.
@@Sirach144 they believe Jesus in the New Testament is Lord, that he came in the flesh, died and lived again and they believe He is the Son of God like first John says a true disciple does. They believe that because of Jesus we can be saved from sin.
They have lots of silly rules, they have weird ontological views of God that are nonsensical, and their prophet Joseph Smith was a sexual predator who was horribly abusive to his wife Emma and used his position of trust as a spiritual leader to coerce a lot of women into sexual relationships with him that they felt wrong about. He used the name of Jesus to usurp power over people. He went completely off the rails because he believed his own intuitions superseded the Bible.
That said, salvation comes from grace through faith in Jesus. As far as I can tell from scripture, Salvation doesn’t go away because you think a bad guy like Joseph Smith was a good guy. Most Mormons do trust in and believe in Jesus.
It is a commandment and a smart one! If you’re an alcoholic (like me) you can’t just drink a little bit! Think of HOW MANY peoples lives have been ruined from alcohol consumption and recreational drug use!! It’s an epidemic! It’s a small sacrifice to give it up with huge blessings!
@@margynelson7945 in Luke 21:34 Jesus warns about the problem of drunkenness, and in Galatians and Corinthians it is in a list of sins of the flesh. Drunkenness is different from having a drink or two with a meal or drinking a bit at a celebration like a wedding (think of Jesus’ first miracle) but in this day when we have other ways to purify water it makes sense to avoid it especially if you or people around you might be prone to over drinking.