The LZ Garage Project: Twin Busch Lift & Air King Fans Video 2 of 3
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2016
- We have a lot going on in this installment of the Adam LZ garage project. My friend and Dialed In PodCast Co-Host Bryan Orr brings out the big guns to get electrical, fans, high lift garage door, and 2 Post Lift installed.
As with any project I tend to take on, it takes time and effort, bloody knuckles, screw-ups, and headaches along the way. I choose to share the whole story rather than the fun and easy stuff.
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I love the british guy(steve)! xD
Oh my god……...Laural and Hardy comes to mind!!
There's something about a group of guys working on a project together that's just cool to see. Had the same feeling when building a house with friends. Job well done!
its nice to see a British guy in america
Matt Moreman and Bryan Orr have quite possibly the best dynamic I've ever had the pleasure of listening too. Bryan might have the best sense of humor of anyone I've ever known and is meant for greatness in the world of podcasting. Even though my music taste fall more in line with Matt's, I'm making it my life's mission to meet Matt and Bryan and to wash a car together while spraying each other with pressure washers, and giving each other group "soap hugs" ....dream big right? Keep up the great work fellas. -Matt (Kansas City)
Ha, ha... Come on over Matt!
I would be concerned with drilling the concrete anchors right next to a cut line in the concrete. When the weight of the car is on the arms, the outer 2 anchors will be in tension trying to rip through the concrete. If the concrete cracks, you will instantly lose the majority of what is holding the post upright, potentially resulting in a catastrophic failure.
I would be scared to death to lift a car on this lift after seeing how the guy was installing the concrete anchors. He did it completely wrong. That's why the blot "stretched" when it really was just pulling out of the hole he wallowed out and didn't clean out correctly. Also they do need to be driven in further. No you don't want them into the sub grade but they do need to be in the concrete further than just 2".
I'm curious to know what PSI the concrete really is also.
Dude throwing in those leg bolts into the posts was about as smart as that fucking post.
I was worried when I first saw him start to tighten those anchor bolts, but then extremely relieved when I saw them semi properly torqued down. Garage looks good! (Find the torque spec on those anchor bolts and use a torque wrench if you guys didn't already do this)
+Benjamin Wesley Done
There is zero chance you would want to say that to his face. He's an insanely nice dude.
What? He is properly installing concrete anchors, youre just misinformed if you think otherwise. He has it shimmed out level, hes keeping the anchor within the slab, he grinding off the top bolt and torquing it down.
Some Body Concrete is 4 inches thick, only uses 1 1/3 inch of it.
I love these videos I just can't seem to get enough
Same here!
Anytime I see someone who is a "professional" using an adjustable wrench, I start to question every decision they've made to that point... 🤔
+John Robb That's dumb.
Obsessed Garage I am mechanic and if I caught one of my employees using a adjustable wrench I would fire them on the spot. A adjustable wrench might work fine 99 out of a 100 times. But when it doesn't and ruins a bolt head or causes the wrench to slip and one of my mechanics breaks their hand makes it not worth having around.
crjengr well this guy isn't a mechanic is he? Funnily enough, the needs of a builder are entirely different from those of a mechanic
Yeah, these were some electricians and a garage door guy that hung out to do a cool project.
Loved the video! Really enjoyed seeing everyone's personalities and the dynamic! Looks like everyone had a good time and looking forward to the last installment of the trilogy!
That 4" slab holding that lift still scares the hell out of me especially that one bolt in an expansion joint.
There is more than 1 bolt in an expansion joint. The first side he works on has 3 of the damn bolts in 2 separate expansion joints! Yikes!
+smcox1991 I had two choices, next to it or through it.
Yea it does, when I poured a slab and installed a lift for a client it called for 14inches of concrete where to posts were located .But this was used for full sized trucks, so maybe 4" is enough for a small car? Idk
Future reference it's easier to pour anything out of a 5 gallon bucket to have the hole closest to you to start. 3/4 down the bucket rotate bucket to where it's farther away from you. No back splash. Awesome vid.
The two short arms are on the wrong sides. The handles to move the arms are on the inside when they need to be on the outside like the longer ones on the fronts.
Fixed before the end of that day.
matty as always a pleasure to watch and always enjoy the crossover vids . got to love the comments about construction and how to do it . everyone loves an armchair quarterback :)
cant wait for the finale!
Some times they will pour epoxy in each anchor bolt hole when they install a lift
Less than 4" anchor embedment 😂😂😂😂 I can't wait for the follow up video when the lift pulls the anchors out and tips over. That floor should have been cut out and a pier dug roughly 24"x24"24" or at minimum 12"x12"x18" a double stacked rebar mat or cage installed then poured back with j bolt anchors installed during pour.
+justforkiks29 That's probably what is going to have to happen. This is why I wanted a scissor lift.
+obsessed garage woahh, that should not be your attitude towards this at all. Especially when its regarding a "friends" money and safety. Are you not the consultant on this? why are you being pissy instead of doing things properly the first time?
Consultants get paid. This is me and my friend figuring it out as we go along. I don't know much about installing a lift and neither does Adam, so we are figuring it out.
I have rarely done anything right the first time. That is the magic of this channel. I'm showing people the journey not the destination.
27:24 the handle bracket comes on the outside
don't look like he sent the threads down
deep enough the nuts going to bottom out at the end of the threads before it sets the anchor
When he said he was going to pound it in until the threads were all still showing I cringed!!! That's not how a wedge anchor works bud!!! At a minimum, he should have pushed the threads of the bolts into the hole 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch so it can draw tight before running out of threads.
Nice vids, Matt. I'm opting for the quickjack or lowrise from bendpak. I have a post tension slab, so no drilling for me. Upside is my floors have no expansion grooves and foundation is 'strong like bull.' Another option is a four post car storage from bendpak with the jack options. Just in case I'd like to store an extra car in the garage.
Adam's like, just call when this shits done!
Pullies are making sure everything runs in sync.
Bryan Orr "So... this is the single phase wiring diagram..." perfect.
I hope you have video when lifting his BMW and the anchors pull out of the concrete
We are all nervous about this. I think we may end up cutting and pouring a footer. Whatever that means. We are within the manufacturer spec, but it still feels sketchy.
as a whole the garage looks sick
11:41 that truck exhaust in the background though
Surprised the guy didn't vacuum out the hole before inserting the bolt.
MikePA not a bad idea when your just drilling also.
As long as your anchor gets all the way in there it shouldnt matter much, especially in this application. Bryan is correct though, if it was epoxy based youd want the dust out so the epoxy actually mates to the concrete rather than dust particles. Done many years of warehouse installations with up to 40ft racks, and never had an anchor pull out, i sure as shit dont vacuum every one!
Woah! Have those Rawls installed properly!
I know this is an old vide3o but you cannot use a 3/4" bit with the stock 18MM anchors that come with the TwinBusch two post car lift. You need to use 3/4" anchors. Makes me cringe to see how loose they flop around in the holes he drilled. Also not cleaning the concrete dust out of the hole, ouch.
I was just called out to service one of these and everything that was said in the last 2 videos about the electrical came out of my mouth. Breaker is still tripping, calling the company tomorrow to have them help me troubleshoot. Really considering just running a 30amp plug and wire
Holy crap, you installed it right on top of a saw joint! I take that back on top of TWO saw joints!! Most manufacturers say DO NOT ever install on or over breaks in the slab. Mohawk says: www.mohawklifts.com/library/manuals/Slab_Require_Recommend_11_07.pdf Read the bottom of page 2.
Arms are on backwards. Unless Adam is planning on backing cars up on the lift, or only lifting rear engine cars.
You appear more uplift in this series, nice video :)
Ha, ha... It's probably because I had help and didn't need to do it all myself. Much easier to do.
I install those "Hilti" style Red heads inserts all the time at the winery, best thing to do is after drilling the hole is to blow out the dust, they also make a bolt style that's has crazy threads on it. His little (looks like De walt ) is tiny vs what I use to punch thought rebar ect.
I also have an twinbush lift, the manual are a joke but its pretty simple to figure out, i dont know how high the sealing are but i got the 2 post lift with the top bar instead, it feels alot safer :) looking forward to see the last part :)
That version was too tall for this garage.
Do you have a picture of the wiring. I can’t figure out we’re the 3 wires go on the control box for the 110v
Why are you so serious about everything
Because that's how most of life is
+Family Squad Me?
This is "is what it is garage" , LOL. (14:26)
Another great video. Quick question Matt, do you know where Adam bought the drop down ladder to get into his attic? I am having a hard time finding one for a 12ft ceiling.
It was a Werner from Home Depot. Luckily we only had a little over 10 feet in height, so we were able to make it work.
Just from looking into the box I can see that it needs 30 amp 208v for motor then the control voltage gets stepped down off the transformer which looks like it's fused. If a contractor electrician didn't know that he should have his licensed revoked. Should always run larger wire never skimp out on the customer just to make some extra money on his end.
It's really interesting how does bolts stay on the ground ummm 🤔
is the drill in reverse when he's making the second hole?
I don't think the arms are attached correctly? The small ones towards the front and when he was attaching those adjustment bars to the arms they should be facing out. Hopefully that gets sorted out... nothing like overkill in a garage. Nice work Matt.
Whomever is holding the camera and filming & talking during the lift install would drive me fuckin crazy if I was doing the lift install. BTW...Congratulations, you're doing a first class job of "Acting?" dumb. Looks like it comes naturally.. god I'm not even doing the work and your driving me crazy‼️ The overall job, the flooring, the lift, is all gorgeous and looks great. Telling contractors how to their job is recipe for disaster. Gotta congratulate the workers doing the install for putting that camera under the lift and testing downward force⁉️ Wm. ~
You tell him!
you cant run wires inside the lift post floppin around. thats got potential get caught up on the lift itself...
like initially suggested. 3m wall hangers and zipties.
or tap screws with zipties that have the eye for a fastener.
hope to goodness adams lift dosent snag that wire and really throw some soarks
Matt I just got a Twin Busch same model, I want to be ready for when it comes. I was wondering what is the recommended hyd fluid y'all used?
Thanks
Shoot, I can't remember what we used. We got a 5 gallon jug from Napa.
Matt,
how far from the ceiling are you installing those fan brackets? 24" from the ceiling to the top of bracket?
They were 88 1/2" from the floor, so about 20" from the ceiling.
Matt. Nice shirt. Show us some BMX Skillz man!
I don't have any. I can still jump on a skateboard though.
short arms always go to the front of the vehicle that is an asymmetric lift that you're putting in
part 3
Did you guys shim the posts the way so they are mounted slightly like a V ? Looking at the shims they might be totaly straight which is wrong as the weight of the car "pushes" the posts together.
For the electrical, in germany we wire those lifts on 400V 3 phased (16A fuse per phase), less common for lifts is 230V single phased 16A.
And by the way, for a lift install, you should always keep about 10cm (3.9inches) distance between the gaps in the concrete and your drilling hole. This guy drilled right in the gap, that bolt may get loose, I would keep an eye on it for safety.
You have 3 phase at residential? Wow...lucky!
arms are still on wrong. long arms go to the rear. also placement of anchor bolts that close to expansion joint is a bad plan. how thick is that concrete? video of catastrophic lift fail coming soon.
+syclone73 Definitely possible.
syclone73 heh
He said 4" in the last video.. i wouldn't trust it.
curious to see how much of this shows up in adam's video
Lazar Nedeljkovic matts are more in depth so not much will show in Adams
On the next episode of the LZ garage project Dyno install
So when are you gonna buy a lift ?? :D
Look's good enough for the girl's I date. Good Job for having a plan B, most people don't. o7 I worked in a gold mine, in the middle of nowhere for years. Hence plan C
Short legs go to the front, long legs go to the rear(because of the engine weight on the front). It seems that you´ve got both of the long legs on the right and short ones on the left. But i´m guessing by now you´ve tried to lift a car and figured it out.
+Laur Yep
Was the guy at 15:10 serious? I hope that got put int EMT or flex at least.
Never mind it looks like he cleaned it up.
Guy at 13:52 is living life on the edge with no safety glasses, eh?
no epoxy on the floor bolts? and put some rubber coated conduit hangars on the crossover hydro hose to keep it away from the cables as to not cause a leak one day.... but looks good an lets see a 4 door car 1" from the limit bar with the garage door open
We talked about it, but the lift manufacturer didn't call for it. We'll probably end up cutting the floor and pour footers.
hey if you do that you can pour it 1/4 taller than the floor an his mats can slide under the center cross plate
I got home the same jack and I'm giving 45 cm into the ground rod size 20 what he does seems funny
Saaaa dude
So what exactly is the purpose of this garage build? I don't know too much about Adam and what he does. Is it a just because build?
Adam and I are friends and he wanted to dial in his garage. We thought it would be cool to build it and share the process. That's about the extent of it.
Obsessed Garage
So it's just an upgrade? No special purpose like your garage?
anyone know the ceiling height in the garage?
10'3"
15:00 he seemed pissed
It was really frustrating me, watching that guy tighten those bolts with a spanner...and then hammering them down....
It's what we had to get it done. He wasn't hired to do any of this.
Wasnt it better if the reservoir and the panel was on the other side ? I think it takes a lot of space...
+Zo oka It would be difficult to access.
still dont know why i asked that question, i could have guessed that... well, too bad.
I got really dizzy around 20 minutes, don't know why, maybe the camera was a bit shaky
bet
are they english?
alice hockley just the one guy
I installed car lifts for five years you need at minimum 6 inch of concrete for a 6000lb lift
Can't be that ambiguous, varies wildly depending on type of concrete, anchors, anchor points and lift specs.
the bolts should be epoxy in and u should not drill all the way through the slab and blow dust out of holes then there will be no way the bolts can work lose
I think we are going to cut and pour new pads.
please contact me and I'll walk you through the correct way to do that lift he's installing the arm brackets on the wrong side because the arms aren't in the correct position
masonry bit is too big for those anchors
It was manufacturer spec.
that power wire should be in a metal conduit not hanging
I didn't want one.
Obsessed Garage that's redicuasly dangerous not to mention not to code for Orlando
I know you're just trying to catch me slipping. Which is easy to do, but there is an outlet on the ceiling.
Obsessed Garage ohh dude my bad I thought he had the power hard wired
small arms go in front of the car
yeah i hope they switch them around
Marc Gauthier or they could just reverse the cars in
It's done. It's pretty easy to see all of this stuff from home watching back. It's much different when I'm in the middle of it.
you need to fire that electrician if I was lz I would have fired you
Nicholas Conticello exactly, howcan you miss a simple thing like connecting a wire.
Thafier Nobody missed a wire.
Obsessed Garage you can't have a exposed wire hanging from the ceiling in Florida there should be a box from the ceiling to the lift with conduit running in-between no exposed wire
18:11 It looks like an outlet on the celling and the lift has a plug that plugs into the outlet. Its not "hard wired'
There is an outlet.
Drill through concrete to determine thickness, and set anchors accordingly. Concrete is stronger nearest to the bottom where stones settle,,,this vedio shows all the wrong procedures,,,and now your lift is dangerous.
You can't just install a lift like that, that concrete is not suited for lifts.
I thought lifts should be on extra thick concrete. There doesn't seem to be any discussion about that
This guy doesn't what he's doing . set anchor bolt at 4'' plus plate thickness clear holes of concrete dust install bolts ( you don't thread anchor bolt nut down to all most no tread left you only have 2'' to 3'' inbedment if you didn't cut anchor bolts, loosen and drive down 1'' to 1.5'' and retorque) GOOD LUCK I won't trust 3'' of inbedment.
My god,,,don't trust the way the anchor was installed!!!!! All wrong,,,,always clean out dust,,,drive anchors as close to bottom as you can,,,and torque to 100 lbs, and recheck every week.. way to much bolts sticking up,,,you could have set bolts 2 inches deeper,,,,markm
lol that dude running the wiring doesnt know shit
I'm pretty sure that's not correct.
I'm cringing as I watch this guy drill The Anchor Holds I've installed lift for 15 years especially for a base plate that guy has no idea of the overall mechanics of that lived and what happened over time with the anchor sticking out like that
Amateur hour
More like amateur 8+ hours. None of are professing to be a lift installation expert. We are just a bunch of buddies that got together to figure it out. Bryan's guys were so interested in it they decided to hang around a figure it out with us.
The install of this lift is cringe worthy.
In what way was it cringy?
Every aspect of the lift install by the "professionals"
+JordanUNC21 You and Bryan would probably be best buddies.