The GRS Tron Joystick for the AtGames Legends Ultimate
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- On today's show I have to showcase the new GRS Tron joystick for the AtGames Legends Ultimate. This version was designed just for the new AtGames powerhouse home arcade unit.
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Man, you're a good engineer, if you could only make this truly hot-swappable, where we didn't have to pull the face plate off the cabinet and could literally pull off the Tron controller and swap it with a bat or ball joystick, that would be phenomenal! Either way, great work. I love Tron and have absolutely hated playing it with the ball joystick. Very hard to move the arm and shoot and move the man.
Anything's possible further down the road right now we're trying to get something out as soon as we could at a minimal cost
This is my first joystick swap and this video was perfect. I got it right the first time and was done in about an hour. The wiring swap was so easy except for the B button connectors.
Yes the original B button clips are made to hold on really good. But once you get them off..it's quick and easy.. enjoy your GRS TRON
@@GlensRetroShow Can I take a pair of pliers to get the button clips off? Can't get a good grip with my fingers...
Would be nice if AtGames would include the Tron joystick as a standard option. Great idea. One of my favorite arcade games was Front Line where you were a soldier that could jump in a small and large tank that used a spinner to direct the aim in a 8 direction circle using a spinner and would shoot when pushed down.
I could not agree more :)
When will this be restocked on Amazon? Will it be updated for the 1.1
It's now on stock
@@GlensRetroShow it looks like it is out of stock again. Will you be making a updated installation video for the ALU 1.1 version. I understand that the wiring needs to be different for this version if you wish to illuminate the joystick. Any help would be appreciated on that point. Thanks.
I really like this joystick, installing it in my ALU proved to be a bit of a PITA. Having the dimmer switch is a MUST because without it, it is far too bright. However, with it installed, it illuminates at power-on at the lowest setting which is perfect. The downside is that accessing the controls to change the brightness is next to impossible because the controls end up inside the ALU control deck. Unlike the one shown in this video, the 1.1 has a box with 8 screws holding it in place to the control deck, so you have to remove the entire unit, disconnect everything, remove the bottom, and THEN you can access the control, BUT, because you had to disconnect everything, including power, it makes no difference and is moot. I also wanted to flip the A/B trigger/deflector for other games, and was able to do so, but ultimately, I couldn't use the nice included harness because it made my ALU freak out in the P1 connector on the CTR board. So I had to use the included "generic mod" connectors and ended up cutting/splicing/connecting them in-line. Overall, this is a great option once its installed. I do wish it had an 8lb spring in it, but after getting it installed, I did not want to mess with it anymore. Also, changing out the joystick for a bat/ball top is as much of a PITA as accessing the lighting controls. So don't count on doing that very often if you have an ALU 1.1. Glen makes it look easy-peasy, it's not quite that easy. But I totally support him and this company because the fans really do make the best products!! End of Line.
I saw a guy on Facebook that cut a hole in the bottom panel below the stick so he could easily access the wires to disconnect. I'm going to do that and add some little hinges and a clasp to create a trap door to access the wires to switch to the ball top.
I would love to see a USB version
Very cool! I'm so glad to see the new Tron stick working in the Legends Ultimate machine! Really enjoyed the different view angles. Also appreciate that you had this machine parked next to an Arcade 1up machine. Great size comparison. :)
Congratulations Glen!!!!
So much more being worked on
Hello, I'm just wondering if you have any eta for these kits? I'd love to get two ASAP for my ALU 1.1
I'd love to get this working with Gorf, Mad Planets, and Satan's Hollow. I think most of us would rather have the Tron joystick on the right like the arcade. The only catch is I'd want to mod a switch where you can set the player 1 joystick between the Tron stick and the balltop to the left. Since most of us aren't going to use 2 player... it would be convenient. However there's not much real estate in the CP for a switcher box..
that's totally awesome ! if only we could such a machine a mods in Oz :(
A great addition to the arcade! Thanks for another great video!
So much more being worked on
@@GlensRetroShow Can't Wait!
So cool. Anyone else have their BYOG stop working last week? Telling me I need to buy time.
Playing Tron left handed seems so wrong lol. Awesome stuff. I will get one. Tron is my all time favorite arcade game.
Firmware has been updated so I can use the right side and left spinner ;)
@@GlensRetroShow Does the spinner feel like the Tron spinner? I remember it being kinda loose--I would always spin it like crazy when done with the spider level.
@@GlensRetroShow Hi glen, how can I play it from the number 2 (right side) what do I need to configure? I’m a bit lost, do I connect it the same as for player one (left side) but how do I configure it? Can you please help I’ll really appreciate it.
Got me a Legends Ultimate 2 weeks ago .. I want 1 of yr Tron jOysticks cool .. LoOks Great !!
:) hope you enjoy it
..I have them always in my unit
@@GlensRetroShow Hi, Glen any idea when they will be available on Amazon for purchase? Or do you have any other vendors selling them? Thanks.
Looks like it's OOS everywhere. When will they be available again?
So awesome! Can this be installed on the 2p side but mapped to work on the 1p side?
Where's the e-mail list to get on when this gets released. Being able to hot change, be backlit is cool. Will the regular joystick have a tobble for 4 and 8 way modes as well?
It's available on Amazon now :)
GRS Tron joystick
@@GlensRetroShow Any chance its going to be available again? last time I checked for doing this was years ago - so to see someone is making this (or made it) - I'd love to get my hands on this finally to finish my setup!
With that dual stick setup you should get a session of Assault going!
Are you talking about Atari's Assault?
shawbros the one from Namco.
@@pcostel1
It's the same game.
The Assault cabinet uses analog joysticks.
shawbros oh really? I always assumed it was Namco’s. I love that game.
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It's both.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_(1988_video_game)#Development_and_release
Awesome! I been looking into doing this myself.
Please please develop the joystick with button for DoT. I am to timid to take it apart and mod it myself. A up down spinner would be nice to.
Two of my favourite games are Tron and Starwars. I've bought your joystick for my project but I have a couple of questions. 1. Is it possible to add a button to the top of the joystick as in Discs of Tron. 2, will I be able to patch it into the controller? Is this the same size as the original? The joystick seems smaller (LOL maybe it was bigger when I was younger)
Yes you can for sure mod with an additional buttons for dot 😁 . It is smaller then the original unit as it was designed for smaller at home use. But still looks and plays very well.
Would be nice if I could find the arcade cabinet for sale.
I want one when these are available!
They are on Amazon now
This man said "hot swap-able". I thereafter lost my damn mind...
Glen, are you going to make a video talking about the USB encoder that comes with the TRON joystick? You mentioned in another video that it has some great features, but never talked about them. Thanks
I will do one on the encoder board, I just don't currently have ant led buttons.
Swapped tron into 1.1 and finally was able to figure out how to swap tron stick for joystick that's included in kit. I noticed your joystick is bit shorter and feels like more tension. What type joystick is it vs the stock alu and what are spring weights in your joystick. I like the feel much better
Would work great for Mad Planets
Hi Glen thanks for a great channel on all the modifications available for our home arcade systems. I just recently purchased the Legends ultimate arcade 1.1 edition from Sam's club and am interested in adding on your Tron flight stick. I went to Amazon to purchase both components, but they are out of stock on the GRS Tron Arcade Flight Stick piece of the solution. Do you have any idea when they will be getting more or if there is another place to purchase the item? I am interested in getting this all set-up for Christmas for my boys so I have a little time to find a solution. Thanks again for all the great info for the community.
Do you still expect stock soon? I just ordered my cabinet and would love to get these
What Exactly are Gates and how do they work? I assume a Octagonal Gate is a gate that makes that makes the Joystick a 8 way Joystick? What would a Gate that makes a Joystick a 4 way Joystick be called and would that type of gate make playing Maze Games like Pac Man easier because you won't have the problem of diagonals cause unintended diagonal or vertical movement like if you are pushing right but not perfectly and Pac
The joystick mounting screws provided were too short for ALU v1.1. I had to purchase the correct size M5-0.8 x 20mm.
Confirmed. Just had this problem yesterday.
Glen,
So glad to see you branching out to other arcades!
It's cool you left your Tron Joystick open for those who'd like to mod in an extra button on the face, but would you ever consider selling a version with a face button yourself? I know this would also beg the question, would we ever see a new version of your spinner in a push/pull configuration? I think you know where I'm going with this :) With a version of the GRS Tron Joystick, and a Push/Pull version of the GRS spinner, Discs Of Tron would become a reality! Capcom's Forgotten Worlds would also become a reality with full push/pull spinner gameplay :)
Just some thoughts. Now I'm off to get in a couple of Tempest rounds with my Glenny spinner before I go to bed. Game On!
vgv
I feel the same way as you do regarding the preferred control arrangement. So just to confirm, would you be able to install the Tron joystick on the right side position, but use the spinner from the left player’s position? I think that’s the only way I could enjoy playing Tron...I wouldn’t want to have to cross my hands to use the spinner with my left hand. Does the Legends Ultimate allow you to re-map controls, or would you have to make it work this way by wiring it up a certain way?
I was thinking the exact same thing during this video. Part of the Tron experience was the joystick config.
You could... Right nowyou would have to take the left control joystick wire harness and the right control wire harness and swap them... I hope that at games will offer software mode to swap the the Joysticks
If you are willing to give up player two controller just put it there and extend wires to still install it to the player one controls
Looks good Glen!
Reason for everything-in-the-box: You don't need the cab. Hook it up to your Bigscreen for party mode
i would love to see u play disc of tron with spinner
Hey Glen as always great content. I was looking to find out if you are familiar with a similar retail wiring harness you used for B button to make it both functional with your tron stick and the AtGames control panel simultaneously. I was looking to add an xinput encoder board to my Legends cabinet and don't want to lose functionality of the AtGames stock board. Really not looking to use T-connectors that wiring harness looks less time consuming and simpler to return to stock wiring if looking to re-sell someday. Thanks for any input in advance.
Ni, me personally..I would hack it ;)
Awesome!
Hey glen does the 2 in 1 interface work with the tron stick, trackball and spinner all at the same time?
Sure can.. the 12 in 1 is just to let the trackball and spinner work as USB device
@@GlensRetroShow my tron Joystick didnt come with an encoder. Where do I get the encoder from? I got it bcuz I seen someone make a 3d printed panel for it. He had an encoder that connected to a usb.... but I dont kno how to hook mines up without the encoder
Did you gut that1up Star Wars arcade and jam a PC in there to play Star Wars trilogy arcade?
Yep I sure did
would also work great on mad planets
Anyone know how you wire the player 2 for the led's to work. I have two joysicks but I can't figure out where to connect the second set of led's. Any help would be appreciated.
Same here! Did you ever figure it out?
Interested in this on 1.1 as well
Great setup! What I/O controller is that? I would like one. I would like details about all the interface componets shown in the video. Thanks!
I enjoyed the video, very informative, on the 2nd joystick does it also connect to the same connector 5 watt of main board with a 3 way connector?
The other side... the second spinner
Take that off ...
Place a steering wheel..
Can't you remap the buttons on just Tron and make A the Fire Button?
Why didn't you go with a vertical for the Arcade1up machine?
I just used a unit I had available..it was an Asteroids unit
I just found about this joystick but I can't find it available anywhere, including Amazon. Any idea on upcoming availability?
Yes new supplies to Amazon by February
@@GlensRetroShow any update? just got a 1.1 machine and tron is my JAM! i picked up a stick from microcenter in chicago. hoping it will work. will the new stick be updated for the 1.1?
When is this stick going to be available again. Keeps showing not available on Amazon?
Sadly they are made in small batches I think. You might see more if theres a lotta dempand otherwise Ebay might be the only way
Dude, YEeessss!
Any chance for development of a gummy-like restrictor gate for that that would be much more similar to the original Tron game? I understand that the arcade game was sort of a fusion 4/8 way restrictor.
Glen, is Atgames going to come out with a Firmware Update where we can use the arcades Controllers for a raspberry Pi. They put out that beta one you had to do it through a USB stick but it was only for player one’s controls. I thought I heard their would be a regular Firmware update that would include not only the button and stick use but the Trackball + Spinner and player 2 use control use. Are they still working on that????
Yes, they are working on getting all the controllers working in a future firmware
Thank You Glen!!!
Hi Glen. I installed the joystick into the number 2 side in the LUA v1.1 but I cant get the trigger to work. Any help would be appreciated.
Any ideas when these will be available again?
Amazon indicates the product is not available... when are more going to be released?
Working on restock
Hey Glen. Is it theoretically possible, to use your stick there combined with the track ball for point of view 1st person shooters on the ALU?
Yes
Amazon is sold out so I bought one from Micro Center but it didn't come with the connector pins to reattach the joystick cable. Same model number as Amazon but clearly different. Buyer beware! Any idea when Amazon may have more of these in stock?
When will this be available again? Amazon shows it is currently out of stock.
BTW, I got your spinner and love it! Setup and working great for Tempest! Thank you.
I just bought and installed this tron joystick. It is weird, it pages left at startup of the alu through the games list (b) but it doesn't work at all during game play. Any idea as to why?
Is this a settings issue?
Thx!
Hey Glen. Do you know what the new screw size for attaching the base to the control deck would be? I just received your kit yesterday and I started noticing differences while watching this video. First, my LUA has a plastic tray underneath like the Arcade1up control panels which is a bit more of a hassle to get to the wire harness. Secondly when I tried to use the new screws that came in the kit, they were too small for the holes and not long enough. Needless to say I was not able to use the kit. Just wanted to see if you knew anything about the updated screws Atgames are now using. Thanks
If the LED to light up the Tron Joystick needs 5 volts Owners of Legends Gamer and Legends Gamer Mini would need a external 5 volt power supply like a USB Home charger?
Yes but you can find 5v on there main board off there internal USB header
That means you would have to have it plugged into the Core Puck thing.
TRON by default does not work with the spinner/...how do u fix this??
It's working for me. I am currently using AtGames firmware version 4.3.0 and the spinner works perfectly. I would check your spiner wire connections, try a factory reset and if they don't work contact AtGames technical support.
I just ordered looks awesome. Will the wires reach to player one controller if I mount it on the player two joystick. Then I can still use player one joystick for other games.
Yes, the GRS Tron joystick wires will reach the player one or player 2 controllers depending on what you would want to put it me personally. Arcade accurate
Tron stick is not listed its November 2020?
I’m interested in buying this for my Atgames Legend, but I am pretty dumb when it comes to electronics. I understand that I need to buy two things from Amazon for this to work ( is that true?). Also my controller deck is different- it has 10 screws on the back- (not just a flat piece of wood on the back). Is the setup the same with this different version? I wish I was smarter- currently I have to play using a tv since my monitor is not working.
Yes, you need the main kit, then the AtGames upgrade kit. The install is the same on all the units. Sorry about the monitor, did you contact AtGames support?
Glen Planamento thank you, I did contact Atgames and they think it is the scalar board and a new one will ship whenever they are allowed to ship out products (they couldn’t tell me when). I will buy the Tron controller when I can get the monitor fixed. Thank you- it looks really nice:) I wish the back of my controller deck was the same as the one in your video- so much easier to remove.
Is there a way to not have to remove the entire controller panel to switch between the Tron joystick and the Ball Joystick? Essentially, not have to adjust the restrictor plate (underneath) to replace it and use another locking mechanism.
My first goal is to find this cabinet....
Probably easier building a Star Wars Trilogy cabinet first.
8-way joystick == Light Cycle Death :)
This is a fact.. Gotta set the GRS up with the 4 way restrictor, which kills it for use with Zaxxon.. Sounds like the new version is gonna be wired up so that swapping the restrictor plate would be easier, which is really smart.. Just gotta stop your friends from wanting play Tron, then Zaxxon, then Tron, then Zaxxon.. Silly Friends.. The dream would be if someone could compile a version of mame that would ignore simultaneous button presses during the light cycle stages of Tron, but allow them for the Spider stage.. When that happens, you can just leave the joystick in 8 way mode and play everything.
Just curious if anyone got this installed and working on a Legends Gamer Pro?
But....what about the other non Tron games.
Still totally playable and you can hot swap the Tron stick for the included jotstick
Just got my machine and are thinking about this upgrade. Do I need to remove the control deck every time I want to swap out joysticks?
Hi. You do need access to the bottom of the deck to twist the locking ring that holds in the tron joystick or the normal joystick I have the original Legends where it's a wood panel bottom that's easily removable I understand though in the newer machines it's a plastic molded bottom so I'm trying to see if there's another way in the future to make the swap easier
Glen Planamento standing by. I’ll wait to see what you come up with. Love the idea and it looks great.
Where did you get the TRON cabinet?
Will this work in the new arcade1up Tron?
How much are just the ball top and bat tops gonna be? I already have the Tron stick and would love to be able to swap them in. Also any plans to sell just the ball top or bat top with the joystick base? Say if you wanted a matching joystick to your tron stick?
dpg014 I would want a rgb ball or bat top to match
@@randyiron2 Rgb ball would be amazing! I second this.
Will there be a version for the AtGames Legends Gamer Pro?
Same question, would be great to get this working on the LGP
This is the version, just have to hack it a bit. Looking forward to full wireless if atgames gets the software sorted and activates the unused spinner connect on the pcb.
Are these joysticks set at 4 way or 8 way and can the be switched to ether or.
Is there a way to preorder?
It's available on Amazon now
Will that work with GORF and ZAXXON...
It is sort of a catch 22, I have found that the best setup for playing Tron is with the stick set to 4 way mode, that way the light cycles play correctly, this setup of course is no good for Zaxxon, you must have it setup for 8 way.. The Tron stick comes with restrictor plates that allow for 4 way use and 8 way use, so if the wiring is setup correctly so that you can easily unplug the wires, swap restrictor plates and wires and reattach, that would be ideal.. 4 way for Tron, 8 way for Zaxxon.. A dream come true for all of us, would be if someone could compile a version of Tron the would ignore 2 simultaneous presses during the light cycle stages, so we could move diagonally when facing the spiders but only go left right up down in the light cycle level.. Hey all you genius coders out there, make it happen, I know I personally would buy you a virtual beer..
Please tell me that this Tron joystick can be used on player 2...
Yes it can
@GlensRetroShow oh, that's good! I tried playing Tron last night using player 2, where the Tron joystick is installed, and I couldn't get it to do anything.
@@timsommer9054 on the ad games Legends you need to go into the joystick config and swap the joystick make the joystick for play one the actual player two joystick but keep the spinner as the player one spinner
@@GlensRetroShow I will try that.
@GlensRetroShow I guess CoinOpsX only lets you change the buttons but not the joystick. Hopefully that will change when they drop a new version.
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Man it's too bright
I need this.