AtGames Legend Ultimate Arcade hands-on/review!
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- Опубліковано 9 кві 2020
- After months of searching and waiting, I finally was able to pick up the first arcade cabinet I've owned - the (relatively) new AtGames Legends Ultimate Arcade. This is not the first video on this machine out there, but I try to give a little context for my time in the arcades in the 80's and beyond and why I chose this machine before taking you through the experience of using it. Spoiler alert: I'm pretty happy with it!
Note that AtGames releases firmware updates for this thing very often, including one just yesterday, so by the time you see this it's possible that certain things might have changed.
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Great review, Thanks for taking the time to put this video together!
Such an in depth review. Thanks for all your hard work putting this together
Neat machine dude, I have no knowledge about cabinets but I really enjoy watching people passionate about something like this.
I'm happy you finally got one to play with. I just got mine as well and I'm really pleased with it.
Holy hell, this looks really good, especially for the price. Also kinda crazy that they went through the trouble of licensing games from the Disney catalog (and others, but Disney had to be the most expensive) and setting up a whole subscription service, yet also clearly know and encourage the fact that this was made to be modded and filled with whatever ROMs you can scrape from the internet. Kinda bizarre, but also really cool of them. Glad to see AtGames putting out a quality product for once.
Love your clips from joy sticks the movie. I just watched this just recently. Great review too. Gave your review a thumbs up. Nice work.
Hope you enjoy the new purchase! I'd love to eventually own a machine myself.
@RETRO PHIL Heck, anything more than just a few generations old MUST be played on a CRT, say nothing about this classic stuff. I keep an old CRT tv on hand specifically for me to play my old consoles like Genesis, Nintendo 64, NES, and such on. Really only modern consoles of the last few generations look good on a wide screen LED TV.
I can still remember one 80's Saturday night putting on ice skates and never getting on the darn ice rink the whole night because I was too busy emptying all my cash into Tempest, Space Wars and Donkey-Kong machines (thanks mom and dad). Ahh the good o'l days. Even a modern day casino couldn't emulate that excitement. You were king when hot chicks would stand behind you to watch (ok, all that did was mess up my game really). Still, soooo glad I was born when I was.
Great video, so through. I cant wait to buy one of these cabinets keep posting videos on this plz and thanks.
I want one. Great editing and I enjoyed the inserted clips.
Your narration reminds me a little of Clive James! Great channel keep them coming.
I'm personally not that into arcade stuff, but this was still a great review. Everything should be as modular and easy to work on as that cabinet!
Great review. Really enjoyed it.
Thanks for the walk through and details.
Thank you, congratulations on the arcade
Your opinion man... I love it! Great review Mr. Lebowski
That’s awesome, great video bro
Congratulations on the Legends Ultimate grab! I've been torn between getting one of these, and continuing on with a full sized Mame cab I've been building. My main problem with the LU is, the UI text is way too small for my low vision, at the moment. Also, vertical aspect games are very small on the 24" monitor, compared with the monitor in my Mame machine. Mind you, I do have the A1UP collection, with some of their included games, you run into the same problem. Bigger is always better for my vision. LOL Thank you very much for the detailed review of this amazing machine. By the way, you might want to consider not more than a six inch riser for your situation.
@Spawndude Spawndude If you intend to have physical bezel, with some sort of design, or vinyl graphic, you may be limited to the 27, at most, for a decent sized monitor. However, Given your visual situation, I'd go with the 32" monitor, in which you would not be able to use a bezel, but would enjoy a monitor that's easier for you to see, and actually be comparable to commercial arcade monitors.
Thanks for the review I was looking at getting one of these now I think I will
How was it?
Excellent over view and review..THANK YOU :)
Great video and commentary. If I could only find one in Stock somewhere.
500 bucks is a great price for something like this! fwiw in my own experience, the emalator software can become - happily - a rabbit warren designing own front-ends, setting up Game Lists (Sega, Taito, Atari, whatever). For me most fun has been setting the correct screen ratios + visual FX (this is within MAMEUIFX32 btw) for each title to emulate old CRT phosphor fx, etc.. - really takes me back in time when they feel as I remember seeing them! MC I would definitely consider how you could play games through an old CRT displays such as the oft-mentioned Sony PVM series. I had one of those and LOVED it - scanlines were built in! Ran from an S-Video out on an older laptop and looked far more accurate than a flat LCD screen could ever achieve! Enjoy, I'm jealous!
That looks... surprisingly good! They aren't available in the UK yet from the looks if it but I'll keep an eye out.
Missed your videos, glad to see your back!
Sadly this is sold out on Sam's Club currently.
Great review bro, thanks
Great review, thanks!
Great review. Thank you.
I bought two of these and put mister fpga on it. Arkanoid fpga is amazing with the track ball
I own one of these things. I was not disappointed. There's just so much you can do. Right now I run things from my PC with coinops. I completely replaced the joysticks. The ones it came with are fine but I wanted something better for fighting games. It was very easy to mod.
What joysticks did you put in it, out of curiosity?
I got one last week. Its fun! I thought the widescreen would annoy me more than it has. I love playing missile command with the rollball and crystal castles.
Got mine yesterday here in the UK thanks to Liberty games:)
Gotta love when people try to control what aspect ratio you choose when you play games in your personal time. 😊
Great review.
Very nice cabby. Those Baolian Are some nice Sanwa Clones and can be modded.
They sell them at microcenter as well.
great video man!
The four-way plate is rotated 45 degrees. You feel the detents just fine if the "corners" represent up/down/left/right. That's how it's meant to be played. You need to rotate it.
Awesome video!
Ms PAC and galaga 20th anniversary rom works good.
Thanks for the video. To clarify, local streaming from your own PC is free.
Does it not count against your time?
Modern Classic No. Local streaming with your own PC on your own network is free. It's separate from the AtGames service that uses the cloud gaming service and a virtual PC. That has a cost because you're using external server and network time. There are only two instances where you're charged, that and ArcadeNet gaming. However, ArcadeNet is free while in beta so there's only the one charge. Everything else you can do on there, and there's a lot, is completely free.
How well does it emulate 3D arcade games? (like Virtua Fighter, House of the Dead, or Dead or Alive)
Great video :D
very educational video, thanks
Caught that Lebowski reference at the end of your dialogue. Ha ha ha
These cabinets were sub $499 in Sam's Club during Christmas time, but I decided not to get it. I think it wants to be too many things at once. Thanks for the review.
damn. i almost bought one of the smaller 1up arcades to hack and throw a pie in. i had no idea this thing existed! screw the small 1up guy. if i can get a decent multicade that you can add games to, that has all the buttons and track ball and spinners, and is close to an actual arcade in size, you can bet your butt i'm going to get that instead! now i just need to find one of these things in stock somewhere... i really do miss the days of arcades. i was born late 80s, but i have fond memories of spending my 90s youth in various arcades, wasting away quarters on the various games. the only ones around me now are 40 minutes away and bar-cades which just aren't the same.
I purchased a "Pandoras box" it cost me around £150.00 it has around 2800 games, (some games are in the unit twice) but still serves my nostalgic needs. I purchased the two player unit and the one I ordered has 2 separate controls.
are manager settings available (lives, difficulty, etc)
12:20 That square gate is still 8-way. Square gates are only 4-way when they're turned 90 degrees to make it a diamond. The corners don't engage at all on a 4-way gate configuration.
can you play games through MAME through USB...also you can rotate the "square" restrictor plate to look like a diamond for 4-way only
They are releasing a LED marquee. Current owners will be able to buy one for 1/2 retail price. They are saying 100.00. It's a full color led marquee that will load the marquee of the game you are playing. The second wave out now will have this already installed.
Already have mine reserved. But I don't see any official source saying this will be included in new ALU units. The page on AtGames' web site for the Bitpixel LED marquee says it's compatible with "all Legends Ultimate and Legends Gamer units", which implies that *no* version comes with it.
i us to go to Arcades in late 70s and early 80s its nice play them on other systems at home or handhold
I had 6 Arcade1ups - sold 2 this week and just bought this and a pre installed USB drive with 7500 games. I just hope the quality is good and if so I should be all set and not have to buy anymore machines. I hope the track ball is good since one of the machines I sold was Golden Tee.
Great video
I snagged the 1up machines at Walmart as low as $75... instead of adding a $45 riser, i elevated then on $22 "Parson's tables" (also added two beams of wood, screwed into the surface so i don't knock a machine off left or right lol). You can probable do the same to not make your cab as frustrating. If the parson's table is too high, you could just saw the legs down?
Does this come with the monitor and i wonder if you could switch out the control panel for a four player say by arcade extensions great vid man
It comes with everything u seen. The controller deck, cabinet and monitor. And no you can't switch out the deck because if u watched the video (lol) u would see that everything is put on that controller deck including the chipset to make it operate.
started with 4 way, then 8 way but I found I much prefer my third and final choice of two circular restrictors
Great Video
Did you email Atgames on all you opinions for them to fix? They seem to put out an update every week or so it seems. I hope they hear from you and take your opinions to use. Awesome video!
Don't worry, they have seen this video :)
Bluetooth and otg work amazingly well, although otg still needs updating
Hey, if you didn't know, this guy is tall. He may have mentioned it. :-)
Are there any plans for these machines to be sold worldwide? I’m in the UK and i would love one!
They currently have them available on pre-order in France and Belgium for early June via a well known french chain so there's a good chance it will be available in the UK soon.🤞🤞🤞They are charging €899 though 🙁
Get a megacade. It's a multicade that currently has over 70,000 games. In usd it's roughly five and a half grand and whilst you could build one for cheaper. It won't be on par with the quality from that machine. Free upgrades once you've bought it as well if i'm correct. Customer service sounds spot on as well.
Some Random Guy that machine does look amazing but 70,000 games! I just want this machine here with like 1000
They're in the UK now, because I saw an advert for them!
I have been looking for one for over a week now, currently, and am having no luck...How did you acquire yours and do you have any suggestions for me on this...Thanks, excellent video fella :)
It’s on preorder at Walmart online right now
Weird photo of a arcade in Japan. I live there time to time. Every time I go to the arcades, there is usually a decent amount of people. Though Akihabara's sega towers have a boat load of people.
Greetings, what specific type of grease did you use on the microswitches? thanks.
Tron, Frontline, and Ikari Warriors are usually impossible to play as their controls are unique. Does the spinner here help with those games? Are you able to emulate them and does the addition of the spinner negate the control issues with these games?
There is actually a dedicated Tron joystick that you can buy and install in this machine, though I don't personally have one. Without that, I find Tron really difficult to play. I may get one eventually but it's a little expensive for an attachment for a single game. But people who have it say it makes a huge difference. Frontline and Ikari Warriors I don't know, I wasn't into those games at the time so haven't spent much (if any) time with them on this machine.
After years of wanting one, i finally built my own full size Arcade cabinet with a raspberrypi and a 26" flat-screen TV. After it was all said and done I think I've spent like $175, but could be done for cheaper
sorry if you mentioned, but how tall are you exactly? thx for the informative video
Any word if Sam's Club is going to restock this machine? I am really torn between getting this or the Arcade 1UP Star Wars. If you get a chance can you demo Tron on this machine in one of your videos. I would really like to see how it plays on this unit.
Sam's Club will definitely be getting more periodically, from what I've read from AtGames themselves. I would demo Tron but only if I get one of the dedicated Tron joysticks, and I'm just not really ready to make that commitment. You can find videos on that from other UA-camrs, though.
Are these cabinets empty towards the bottom and could they be modified to put a dummy quarter slot for like a little savings/piggy bank? Just wondering if there are any crucial electronics at that point of the cabinet.
They should've made the marquee digital to where the logo would change to what ever game your playing that would be sick
They're making an add-on called the Bitpixel Marquee that can do that.
The lower video quality on the ArcadeNet offerings may be related to latency.
If you want to higher your cabinet, get thick table wood that's really wide, then get 2 cynder locks laying flat. Or use old box speakers. Or make a shelf riser.
By the way you sound like the doctor on star trek Voyager. Robert Picardo. Lol you could give lectures.
Would you say this is a TN or IPS panel? I'm curious because I desire good viewing angles. Also I'm torn on if it's better having a horizontal or vertical mounted monitor.
I'm really just making an educated guess but it looks more like IPS than TN to me. I don't have a problem with the viewing angles. And there is some "glow" like IPS panels have. I know what you mean on horizontal vs. vertical. I feel like a 16:9 panel, though, is a little bit too extreme for vertical mounting. So I understand why they went horizontal. That also allows you to use bezel artwork that already exists for MAME on PC's for your BYOG games.
@@ModernClassic well is there any kind of glare at all on the screen? If so then its TN not IPS? Just look at it lol we can't. An IPS screen will always have a matte look with no glare.
That's never been a reliable way of telling screen tech - I personally have sold matte and glossy screens of various technologies. It just depends on what the manufacturer decides to put on them, and it's mostly just down to what they think consumer preference is. As for this screen, the entire screen area (from side to side, well beyond the actual screen itself) is covered in glass. So there's no way to see the screen itself without disassembling the unit - something I haven't seen any UA-camr do, because it's not something you'd really want to do unless you had to.
I'm still looking for this arcade cabinet to no avail
19:19 hm...a scanline option for the game 1942, if they have done it correctly then the scanlines should be vertical, since that game (and all vertical arcades) had an CRT at 90 degrees
Yes, I realize some games were like that.. it still looks better than no scanlines at all.
@@ModernClassic ;-)
Could you try to fit a MiSTer FPGA inside ? Love your video as an arcade lover myself.
There's another guy on UA-cam who did a video on using a MiSTer with this cabinet, but I don't know if he fit it inside. (I think he still wanted to use it with other devices.) The inside of the cabinet is literally just air, though, so there are tons of places you could mount one if you wanted to dedicate it to the Legends Ultimate. Then you would just need to split a cable or two going between the controller and monitor. The cabinet itself is basically just a stand for the controller and LCD screen, so you can do basically anything you want inside it. You could put a desktop PC running MAME in there if you wanted.
Mmm....okay, my opinion for what its worth. I _really_ like the control panel. Yep, that's it. If they sold something like that as a USB controller, I'd be all in. The issues I have with these type of products are:
They have fairly crappy SBC hardware _and_ run older versions of Mame (both of which lead to glitches and poor performance). To emulate well you REALLY need half-decent hardware and a *freesync monitor* (and GPU). Most old arcade games had MANY different refresh rates and without a freesync display, you'll either get screen tearing or, if Vsync is enabled to smooth that out, input lag and sound glitches. It would also be nice if it supported HLSL to simulate CRT screens (phosphor glow, screen curvature etc.).
But I DO like that control panel. I like it a lot.
Has anyone done any lag measurements with this setup? Based on the galaga footage there was quite a bit of lag...
The Galaga in this footage is just running on MAME (as the BYOG arcade games generally do). It should have the same amount of lag as an average MAME setup. I don't notice much lag, if any, in most games, although I do in some.
@@ModernClassic Thanks for the confirmation. Thinking about getting one, although the fact that the scan lines are in the wrong orientation in vertically oriented games like 1942 bugged me :-) so I'll probably turn off scan lines for vertical games until they fix it.
Trust me, you won't want to. It looks way more wrong with no scanlines than with horizontal scanlines.
And of course the first thing to do is hack it and add few hundred more games. I love the roller ball and all the buttons and joysticks. The USBs are a nice touch and the extra HDMI and online service are a bonus. Now I have to get my wifes permission to put this massive machine in our house. Great video!
Don't have to hack it. Adding games is officially supported.
Looks cool, too bad my arcade arrived defective. Its freezes after 10 minutes. Waiting for parts, delays due to covid19 :(
5:21 Atari lynx.. I still have mine. 👍
Does this have any of the classic versus games like street fighter, marvel vs capcom, or mortal kombat?
No unfortunately not, the games that come installed are more unknown or in my opinion not what I'd want to play. But you have a few options of adding your own games for free with a simple download on a pc to a USB flash then you can plug n play
12:03 Neither one of those are 4 way plates. At least not in that configuration. The way those are set up they are both 8 way, with the octagonal restrictor plate giving better feel on 4 way games. The square one is a 4/8 way restrictor, meaning it can be used as either. The inside square restrictor need to be turned 45 degrees.
Hi, how can you add custom scanline shaders to legends ultimate?
Did you offer any assessment at all about the trackball?
Are the top and bottom of arcade games cut off on the screen like they are in your video?
I talk about that in the video itself.
How tall are you? Asking for comparative purposes. I'm 6'5" so I understand your pains and am curious of about the scale.
6'4". So you'd have the same issues. I think it's made assuming people will sit on a stool rather than stand. I'd rather stand, though; feels more nostalgic.
@@ModernClassic Thanks MC. If I buy it I'll build a stand for it to raise it up. Great video, very well put together.
It's not that much different than a regular arcade machine. But I bought a couple of stools anyway.
@@ModernClassic Im not as tall as you or Willie, but I am 6'3 and I can say 100percent a stool makes a huge difference. I use one and it makes a world of difference in game play position.
I would love a high quality bar-top unit. I don't want a full size cabinet like that because I don't have anywhere to put it. If anyone knows of a good single player bar-top, I'd happily accept recommendations.
My main issue with this thing is the position of the joystick. I never really played the arcade machines, just the atari 2600. Is it just me, or would right handed people would want the joystick on the right? I can't imagine playing space invaders with my left hand. A wired controller option would work, too, especially for standing/sitting.
You can actually remap the controls however you want. You can use the P2 controls for P1, you can use the P2 joystick and P1 buttons, etc.
I will say that this layout is pretty standard for how 2 player arcade games use to be laid out. But some may have been different; I didn't play everything back in the day.
I'm sorry AtGame just does not scream quality, and something I'd want to own, but good video none the less.
This machine is different. Check out some of the other videos out there... they've learned a lot of lessons.
@@ModernClassic I would hope so for $600, as that's a fairly mid range AMD based gaming PC.
@@CommodoreFan64 ya but the most known company doing this stuff Arcade1up sells you an arcade for around $400 and all you can do is play a couple games on it. This arcade has no limit on how many games you play and offers a whole lot more with no mods necessary unlike arcade1up. The price to me is right on point, and it's unfair to compare this to a pc. Completely 2 different things here and your paying for the nostalgia of it all in a realistic type arcade cab.
@@CommodoreFan64 Also I own a pandoras box that cost $200 and thats just for the sticks and buttons built into a box and you plug n play onto a TV screen. So for just $400 more I get an entire full sized arcade cabinet btw, because arcade1up is 3/4 sized and I can play anything I want on it just with a quick download. Sounds good to me. The point is you have companies selling arcades half sized and with 3 games in it. I can buy this Atgames and play over 1,000 games without any MODS!! So whats really worth what here...... Do you see what I'm saying? Did I mention its also the only arcade cab that's fully connected. Meaning wifi internet for updates, adding games and most importantly in which Modern Classic did not mention is that this hooks directly up to your Steam account and you can play some current high graphic fighting games like the new mortal kombat for example... so yes I believe its well worth a 600 tag
Was there any noticeable lag using the ArcadeNet streaming?
Not to me. I'm sure it exists but I was surprised that I didn't notice it in actual gameplay.
5:23 Lunar & FF anthology 😁
Can you delete some of the existing 250 games that come with system if you don't like them?
gratz i love mine
How does light gun support work on a non-crt?
Magic.
Looks good. Contrary to usual output from at games.
They have really made an effort to do things right this time.
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Now I want the Cab and the movie I can't find, Joy Sticks
I just checked Sam's Club, and they have the cheapest one but is out of stock
I'm still trying to find one of these to be honest and they're sold out everywhere and I'm six foot seven so I'm definitely probably have to get a stool
Supposedly more will be in stock at the end of the month
You sound exactly like the guy who narrates the channel “Mustard”. Are you him? 😆😂
Don't even know that channel.