the way he was bragging about it all I was thinking that he implies possesion of child pornography but everyone was ok with it and she faced a backlash for it??????
Legit. He was essentially spreading around child pornography yet SHE had to apologize for it? Make it make sense. What about the guy who saw "racy" pics of a 15yr old and immediately thought "I can make money from this" 🙄
it just shows how horrible disney was with its stars during that time. they had to be perfect. they had to become adults overnight. once the contract was signed they weren't allowed to be kids, to make mistakes and learn from them. that time in your life is when you make mistakes and learn whats right and wrong. but how can you do that when your entire life is being watched by the public and a giant company like disney? you can't. theres a reason why so many child stars went down bad paths... the industry destroys them, abuses them, milks them for all their worth and then throws them to the curb when they aren't good enough anymore. it's sick.
No....let's watch the adult who was a child but spouts about how they've matured and make grown up decisions ... Once a child grows up....unless medically unable to....ya got choices.
Not really sure what you’re talking about. Once Miley turned 18 and became said adult she was free to do as she pleased. She never chose her status as a child. She didn’t ask to be a role model. Once she was of age she became herself. It’s incredibly ridiculous to assume someone would continue to play pretend because kids like her show.
It made me feel some type of way when the mom from Jupiter beach said ‘she looks like a little tramp’ and her daughter said the same thing right afterwards. It goes to show how we’re taught to hate other women by unwell women
Exactly! Us women have to hold each other up. We already battle so much hate and misogyny. knowing she was just 15 and a grown woman were talking about her like that then teaching her daughter to do it is disgusting!
Yep. Tbh I've been treated way worse by a lot of other women than I ever have by men. The amount of men who have been like that towards me I can count on one hand. The amount of women I can't even count because there's so many.
It was coming from a woman. I still get it, BUT I’m sure she was saying that as a subtle way of saying that Hollywood is full of pedophiles. Which it is. Jennifer from WOWP even said that when Selena turned 18, EVERYONE was hyping that up which on set, which is gross. I know how it looks but I’m sure she meant that to protect Miley and as a heads up. If it came from a man I would be creeped out
Is it though, have you seen the trash parents let their kids wear? It's disgusting. Why do schools have to have a skirt length dress code? Because parents don't parent anymore and kids turn into trashy people when parents just ignore their children.
@@insertnamehere2635 yes, it is an extremely strange thing to say. You really should not be concerned with whether or not teenagers are wearing underwear.
it’s pretty clear Rosie was referring to the pictures that paparazzi would take of female celebrities under their skirts/dresses as they were getting out of their cars, and she was absolutely victim blaming those women by saying they should wear underwear to avoid that problem. it’s disgusting. how about we call out the paparazzi who were wrongfully taking pictures of women in compromising positions? her take didn’t even make sense considering wearing underwear wouldn’t even solve that issue. my heart breaks for Miley and all those other celebrities who were treated with such disrespect.
I will never forget how bad my mom was about the media giving her crap. She watched that award show where Miley was on the ice cream cart. My mom was like "how in the heck do they expect her not to fall off" "I was a mother at 15 so she's not doing so bad for herself" "Hannah Montana is a fictional character and these people needs to grow up" everyday she was fired up. Lol. I loved this about my mom. She didn't shame her or make me feel bad for loving her. I had friend whose mom's freaked out... it was a crazy time
Right its a pole, not a sexy pole dance… they probably havent seen a pole dance before. But I also feel like its the stiff and modest USA that makes it weird. What do you say when your 10 year old is happy and spinns around a lamp pole outside? Do you think its pole dance and inappropriate or is it a child having fun and being happy? Most kids that see her on the ice cream cart dont think anything bad… they are kids. Its the parents that make it weird because they are dirty minded….
Parents were so focused on finding a minor to be their child’s role model instead of just being a good role model themselves. No bashing another child for doing something you don’t like was their answer.
Exactly like what and a lot of those people who were saying that we grown ass adults like why are you even watching Disney channel your like 30 😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
it’s funny bc their generation had people like madonna pushing it even further but they act so surprised by miley wearing a different kind of costume lol
Disney was happy to WORK her like an adult, but when she behaved like an adult they turn their back on her. Disgusting how much money they made off her but didn't have any money to wave at the tabloids to try and hush vicious stories like the photo shoot or anything like that
and I feel it was meant to be because the universe needed to severe her relationship with disney so she could thrive on her own - so glad she had such an amazing family because it is insane how she has remained so successful and down to earth and intelligent
Shows how fking corrupt these studios are. From hiring ex pedo convincts, being abused and yelled at by the producer (Dan Schneider), and of course milking any actor or actress into being a pop star for them to make money off of.
It's now known as child exploitation and it's happening everyday on youtube by family vloggers. The kids are set up to be bullied and even abused. Ruby Franke being the first to inflict extreme torture to two of her kid's.
The hypocricy of the media and society makes me so angry. "Please don't turn out like Britney Spears blabla" as if they aren't the ones doing that to these young girls. Pushing them so hard, not giving them an ounce of privacy and criticising every single step they take. It's disgusting
Nono, but you see, teenage girls just like texting and shopping and boys and they wanna do the tiktok for attention while posing with Star Bucks !! Oh, but Miley is okay. She's not like other girls, with the texting and "omg, like, omg". Also, like, I am pretty sure that teenage girls created Star Bucks and not the same generation that makes fun of them for buying Star Bucks.
Speak for yourself I don't give 2 fkks about those 2 That's all on you, champ Speaking of hypocrisy Simple solution: don't watch No ratings, no profit = that thing you hate going away
@@lockandloadlikehell you gave enough of a fuck to comment on the video. And you being on a video about someone you don't give a fuck about is interesting enough🙄. The irony
Yes. I’m not religious but really appreciate that she said Christian’s make mistakes and they can be forgiven. The “christian” guy is ready to crucify Miley.
Yeah the fact that these adults in Hollywood made a 15 year old girl pose topless (which is literally illegal btw) and put in a magazine for the world to see is absolutely disgusting and then she got shit for it? She was literally groomed by adults as a minor and then blamed for it. Awful 😞
She was a child yes she should be. She still made bad choices. So did her parents by not raising her better with more rules and regulations. This is what happened when kids are just left to do whatever they want
One of the things that upsets me about the whole Vanity Fair photo is that no one questioned why Annie or Vanity Fair thought it was okay to use the photo. Miley should have faced no backlash, but the magazine and photographer should have been criticized for sexualizing a 15 year old. I do think that the sexualization of child stars (as in under the age of 18) is a major issue and it's not their fault, but the media's fault. You can see it in the comments surrounding the photo by the media where one of the talking heads said that someone in Miley's position would have the maturity of an 18 year old. Miley shouldn't be ashamed of the photo, but the photographer and media should be questioning why they are shaming and sexualizing child stars, particularly female ones. And then why they are blaming those child stars for their actions.
I agree with you 100% to this day I still want to know why they sexualized 15 year old and thought that was okay. I don’t remember anyone over criticizing Annie or vanity for doing that to Miley.
None of them should be blamed. The photo wasn't sexual at all. Miley said so herself. It was people in the media looking to be outraged that sexualized it.
I’ve always felt so bad for her, when we’re teenagers and young, we want to be grown, look grown and act grown. This is that. She shouldn’t have to apologize.
It makes me wanna scream!!! I can’t believe they were blaming her so young as a child, when it is completely up to the parents and adults to protect the decision’s around the kids and the ones their kids make.
The “pole dancing” thing was hilarious. It literally feels like satire for parents overreacting. The “pole” looks like the umbrella stand on an ice cream truck that they’ve kept for health and safety reasons so she doesn’t fall. This poor woman can’t touch an umbrella stand without being critiqued. So happy she’s so unapologetic now.
I was thinking the same thing. If the "pole" wasn't there, she wouldn't have anything to hold on to when riding the ice cream cart. I feel like if someone put an umbrella on top of the pole, no one would bat an eyelash lol. So blown out of proportion, and all the reporters/radio hosts overreacting is so funny (and so sad too).
@@wendistanley2350right. It’s telling that they had to use that still image of her sitting there to show her “pole dancing”. They knew if they showed a clip of the entire incident instead, everyone would know it was one second taken out of context.
It really sickens me that at just 15 she had to apologize for being sexualized and exploited by adults who were never held accountable. Everyone wanted to pick on the vulnerable kid. I'm so proud of her for speaking up for herself when she finally could. Queen knows her worth.
It’s so ridiculous. Adults made decisions for her, other adults judged about. But instead of judging each other, they judge about someone who is not responsible and innocent in this case.
@@crab2195 I Just Know If Someone Gave Me Their Kidney They'd Know I'd Be Grateful. That Was Just Cold And Ungrateful Of Selena To Do That To The Person Who Literally Saved Her Life.
@@collinkeyser6827the documentary was called “My Mind & Me” not “Selena‘s Kidney Transplant”… i think she should’ve talked about it too but that wasn’t the focus of the documentary. and Miley hasn’t received a kidney transplant so i’m not sure what you’re hoping she’ll be grateful for
@@crab2195 the documentary talked about her mental AND physical health. Selena receiving a kidney transplant is something that impacted her life and should had been a big part of the documentary. The fact is that whole thing didn't exactly painted her in a good light to begin with and her ignoring it just made her look even worse.
i remember having to do a report on vanessa hudgens back in elementary school and it was around the time the leaked photos got out and my parents freaked out and called the school over "their child" seeing nude photos. looking back, it was so ridiculous, the school made an announcement that shes a bad role model and its just a shame the narrative that was pushed on her as if its HER fault someone invaded her privacy like that. disney just leaves these child actors to fend for themselves against the wolves. its disgusting and i hope the next generation of stars doesnt have to go through that and the general public becomes kinder towards them
This is so well made! I hope Miley sees this and knows that this age of information is shining a light on the darkness of Hollywood and we're here cheering her on❤️
Those hacked pictures weren’t even “mistakes”, they were normal teenage stuff. The amount of suggestive photos & jokes nearly all teenagers make is immeasurable. It’s so wild how she’s held to this crazy high standard. She was a teen!
@@moonpixxxie666I'm sure a lot of us would be. I sent photos of myself to guys when I was 14. I can't think of any person that hasn't sent or received a explicit photo. I don't understand why it's normal for other teenagers but not her. She's not preaching sex to your kids - instead of hiding them from sex, maybe you should educate them about it instead. These people are lazy, judgemental parents, and want to keep their children from the realities of the world. Plus, I want to meet someone that calls a young girl a tramp. I bet they probably did the same things when they were younger.
@@jessicasuzanne___By “normal,” she means that 3/4 of teenagers not only know about “inappropriate” things by that age, but they’re also often participating in it to some degree. Whether they’re simply making jokes about it, upping the Annie by taking photos related to it, or by full on participating it, & if you think your teens or teens you know aren’t participating in such things, then I can almost promise you that, in reality, they’re the worst ones. 😬
It’s funny how the media shamed Miley, Britney, and the other girls for everything under the sun, for not being a good role model, acting like adults etc, but child labor was never a problem for them?! Funny how those things worked in that time…
It breaks my heart to hear all of these adults insulting, namecalling a 15 year old, but it hurts me even more to hear those two little girls repeating their mother's words (12:30) . People like that should not be raising a child
I thought that part was so funny because here she is being like "omg Miley was topless at a photoshoot what a BAD ROLE MODEL" then proceeds to call her a tramp and scum in front of her young children.
i was only a young girl when i saw the way miley was treated for "racy photos" and i vividly remember how i felt seeing those pictures. i felt personally attacked in a way. because sending such a harsh message to a young female celeb, also has ripple effects on the demographic watching.
Same. I was 12 or 13 when Can't be tamed came out. I loved the song, and my heavily christian mother forbade me from listening to it. I listened to it in secret, put it on my little mp3 player, had it hidden under a religious song name in my computer files, and deleted it off my mp3 player any time she asked my sister and I for our devices to 'make sure the devil wasn't misleading' us. (I also did the same with Eminem, and a bunch of screamo/emo bands.)
It always makes me so sad to see how much these young girls who were so full of spirit and life in their earlier interviews look in later interviews. Maybe it’s just me but you can see it in their eyes. How being a child star, the paparazzi, the media, and constant criticism really did drain them. The toll it must take on a teenager to constantly be told that you are a disappointment because you didn’t live up to outrageous expectations. I just hope Miley and the others can all find peace and happiness now.
Something also happened to her where she lost her voice that might be why shes a bit different and sounds different besides age but I think shes become a lovely person
"You didn't look like a father and a daughter " oh how unbelievable it is to be close to your child, to be able to hug them or show any other sign of care. 🙄
@@smileyattitude6807 That's a bit of "whataboutism", imo. It's not something that would ever be held against mothers. And against fathers most believe that's a valid claim, regardless.
watching these media interviews back floor me. I remember when the whole photoshoot happened, and my mom was appalled at how the press was treating her. In hindsight, so am I. They were lambasting a MINOR. its sick
I am so proud of how far she’s come since her days on Hannah Montana. the media was absolutely ruthless to her for the dumbest reasons, for most of her childhood. When it comes to being a role model, it’s really not about your outfit or the pictures you take with your friends, I genuinely think the media was just desperately trying to see if she was going to “go crazy” and nitpicked everything she did… Miley has remained determined, talented, and kind through it all and has never failed to pick herself back up again. She’s so strong for that fr fr
People wanted Miley to be “little miss sunshine, America’s sweetheart, Christian, country singing, Hannah Montana forever”…and Miley was meant to be fearless, free, undefeated, rebellious, inspiring, great and a rockstar
I read this as Society wanted Miley to be the woman we wanted. Submissive, innocent, people pleasing. But Miley decided to be a divine feminine empowered woman, a true role model ;-)
i've always loved Miley Cyrus so much but could never explain why, but this series explains why so perfectly. People like her or Jennette McCurdy or Lindsay Lohan & more, they were put under so much pressure but still somehow fought tooth and nail to stay true to themselves. Miley is right, she's more of an inspiration than Hannah Montana ever was.
@@enriquesanchez9016 she had her trauma and reasons just like Britney, the Olsens, etc. Abuse from home and from work & the media, and even someone she considered a friend. A 'trainwreck' after all is always caused by something going wrong. Even Paris being a shitty person & bully came from having a rough upbringing and while a lot of the girls that "went off the rails" have done questionable and sometimes terrible things, it's all in the same vein and their fame and being criticized everywhere they went definitely didn't help.
I never really stopped to think but they heavily framed her as a a wild, uncontrollable woman back then. As someone who was young and deeply into Hannah Montana at the time, I’m ashamed to say I did buy into it. But upon reflection Miley was out here literally just existing as many teens do, she was just unfortunately in the public eye. I’m glad to see that even during those years of turmoil, she turned out alright, and she’s unapologetically herself. I’ll support her always ❤
Unfortunately I bought into it as well back then, but as I grew older I understood more of the pressure that these stars go through to be presented as “perfect” role models at any age, but especially for child stars growing up for other children. Disney really sells that desire to become a star on their channel, but what these kids don’t see is the abuse that comes with being one of their “stars”, they only see the fame and unfortunately the aftermath of when someone wants to unchain themselves from the company. I do regret my reaction to the story that the media sold about Miley, however like she said we can’t go back in time to change it, but we can go forward with a more open mind and learn from our mistakes. I honestly am proud of her, throughout everything, she still has her head on tight regardless of what the media or anyone else seems to think. In the end it is her life to live, not anyone else’s and she’s living a pretty damn good life.
I fell for it too , like they did with a lot of stars at the time. It was so common to make these child stars look bad as they became adults and no longer acted childlike, we didn't bat an eye to it. Now I see it for what it is, the media trying to spin a narrative and make money off of someone else's misery. It was disgusting behavior I'm glad I'm old enough to see now. Luckily society is starting to notice how much they have used and sexualized these people when they were WAY too young for it and hopefully we can stop this from happening to more child stars in the future.
I'm glad I never bought into it, I even remember defending Britney Spears to my mom and saying "it's the paparazza that is cruel and she just needs help" and I was really young. Idk where I knew it, but I just knew. The same with Miley, I said it wasn't her or Vanessas fault the photos got leaked and it's just a photo.
I’ve been a fan of Miley since I was really young, like 3? Always been updated on her as well as the media and Disney channel outlets and was ALWAYS upset on how people treated Miley and framed her as a “bad girl” or “rebel”. She was the IT girl of Disney and on top of the world as a teenager yet a lot of adults and parents in the world was shaming her which reflected on the younger audience who did the same because of how the media fed those words to people. Like even me being young, I know common sense. I’ve always supported her and was her biggest fan during Can’t Be Tamed since she did what she wanted to, I couldn’t stand people’s reactions towards her. I’m glad she’s unapologetic and being herself now and more glad on how society has a more “open mind” than before towards Miley.
Parents looking to Hollywood teens for role models for their children are the real problem here and the public constantly consuming those gross magazines. I love Miley she’s strong and I’m glad she came out of this alive
@@paulthomas963 Chris Evans TV show and talk tomorrow and back now you can do this and you can find out now soon did you need you do that if you now that we go back and look at this video and see if you
hearing grown adults talk so poorly about a 15 year old girl is heartbreaking…. they act like miley had a say at 15 what was going to be published. all of the vanity fair issues were out of her control
These deep dives have so many triggers I wasn’t even aware of. The way this narrative has flopped in a decade is truly fascinating and the way we perceived Miley Cyrus through her career SO SPECIFICALLY NARRATED to be “too promiscuous” when she was literally just existing… My mind is blown here, thank you for your time on these guys this is good stuff, great stuff. 🎉
ahh this brought tears to my eyes but seeing the preview for the next one gave me such goosebumps!! she deserves to be herself and i am so proud of her 😭💖
I grew up with Miley, as she grew up. We are only like 3-4 years apart in age. When she was Hannah, I was the age that that show was targeting so I was a HUGE Hannah fan. I remember when I stopped being a Hannah fan and finally grew out of it. It was a few weeks before Christmas. I was living with my gramma at the time. I went out to the living room, went over to my Hannah Montana stocking, and looked at my gramma. I just kind of held the stocking and told my gramma "I don't think I like Hannah Montana anymore." It was pretty much around the same time that Miley, herself, was done with Hannah Montana. So as Miley got older and matured out of the Hannah persona, I also got older and matured out of the Hannah fandom. But as for Miley Cyrus? I am a HUGE fan and will always be a fan of hers and support her. I adore her so much. I'm just so happy she is able to be herself.
No one must be expected to be a role model. Parents mustn't let their kids see stars as models. First, all celebrities are human beings, they have all the right to party and misbehave, just like any person does. Second, children's role models must be their own parents. Not someone they don't know. Miley's always been a wild, unapologetic soul, and I love her for that. I love how much she's evolved, and turning into rock has been her best choice since she's always been a rockstar.
Your comment is on point! All the human sheep in this video crying about this false image the media created should be forced to write your comment 500 times like a kid in school that needs to learn something. Good job!
Agreed. No one famous goes into this thinking I want to be role models for young kids. Parents need to do their job and instill values in their kids instead of telling them to look up to people, living a lifestyle most people will never know.
When i was younger and read all the news about her i didnt know how to feel about it. I mean i always loved the shows and her performances but as soon as i read the topics i thought may she has a bad influence on me. Now i actually think miley helped me to breakfree from boundaries. I make my own decisions like her. And if its wrong i learn. But i never apologize for the way I am.
I was like 11 when that magazine cover of Miley came out, and even as a kid I never viewed it as provocative. To me, it always looked sort of dark and sad, and I felt bad for her. It’s not like she had any choice in doing it. It’s weird to be an adult now and look back at everything all those grown adults said about her on tv. Shameful
I remember thinking it was kind of beautiful, in a melancholic way. And given she was the subject, not the artist, I don't know how on earth anyone could consider her at fault for it. Thankfully, the news media in my country were more interested in condemning the photographer than her.
This seems like soooo long ago, and so much of it practically archaic. Adults were making these decisions and adults were attacking this child star. It's crazy to see how much the world can change, but sad to see how far we still have to come. Love this channel and truly appreciate the amount of work going into each video.
Miley just suffered to panic attacks and anxiety at her last concert at Mexico. I love her since I was 11. I always wanted her life back then. But today with 25 I’m more than happy that I didn’t had this life. People like her and Selena are already exhausted with 30, because they worked their whole childhood. It’s just sad and I hope the best for them.
Isn’t it ironic that all these people said Miley acted “too old” but when you have someone like JoJo they still make fun of her and say she acts too young
Props to Emmanuelle Chirqui for seemingly being the only voice of reason when Miley posed for Vanity Fair. This made me like Emmanuelle even more. 15 year old (!!!) Miley was being blamed for the decisions made FOR her by adults.
South park literally made an episode like 10 years ago all about how the media treats Brittney vs how they treat miley. I was shocked to see south park sympathize with her at a time where everyone was dog piling see them make an entire episode with sympathy and heartbreak about the media going after britney and eventually miley was crazy. Its still funny and dark but the message is there.
“Does this photo change your mind about Hannah Montana?” “Yeah” SHES NOT HANNAH MONTANA, SHES MILEY. HM WAS A TV ROLE. This is why she hated being associated with the character so much. Im very happy about her now though, i always admired and liked Miley so much. You go girl!
One of the best artist to come out of the millennial generation. When you think back to the 2010's you see Miley EVERYWHERE! I can see where the comparisons to Britney/Miley come from and how there stories could be similar. Both blew up at a young age and how the Media wanted to twist their world to sell, even at the cost of their mental/wellbeing .
@@KRSonbe Agree. She was really popular around 2007-2009 (and kinda 2010) then she was kinda losing popularity all around the early 2010s until she came with Bangerz in 2013.
About a year ago listed to my favorite Disney Channel songs from my childhood, and the meta narrative of Hanna Montana just hit me (really late, I know). Literally singing "underneath it all I am just like you" and how Miley Stewart also struggled with being famous, but it was worse for the real Miley, she didn't have a secret identity to shelter under, it's really sad.
I think everyone who called her a tramp literally just wanted to be on TV she literally did nothing wrong and if we saw your everyday 15 year old do that now nobody would bat an eyelash it’s ridiculous honestly and I feel so sorry she had to go through any of this
Man, it really does seem like she was confident in herself even as a teen. The whole world telling her to feel bad about herself and it seemed she always knew what they were doing.
Miley ran so the other Disney girls didn’t have to. I’ll always respect her for breaking out of Disney like she did. Screw them for blocking her over cant be tamed
“How do you know what happened to Britney, and Lindsay, and Jamie Lynn Spears won’t happen to you.” Okay well first of all, love how she only uses female examples when we have examples of male stars going through addiction or unplanned pregnancy as well. Right there we know she is coming from a place of misogyny. Second of all, when you see someone going through something tough, if you feel anything but empathy you should reflect on your own failings and figure out why you don’t have empathy for others.
I do find it extremely disturbing that Anne L thought, "Hey, you're 15.... take your top off, and I'll photograph you wrapped up in a bedsheet." Like, why are we not looking at this woman a little closer?
I’m mostly upset that the Disney/ Hannah Montana machinery deprived us of Rock Miley for so long. Listening to PlasticHearts was a revelation. Her voice is perfect for it.
I was a massive fan during the Can’t be Tamed era, growing up alongside Miley and it felt so fucking refreshing seeing her grow too and explore. We weren’t kids anymore, we wanted to feel hot, we wanted to rebel. And she never rebelled in a way that felt out of her control - like she says herself. Dunno, always felt weird how she was treated, she’s fucking great.
It’s really gross to me that a panel of grown adult women (I’m speaking specifically of The View) think it’s ok to shout “I made Miley Cyrus promise to wear underwear!!!!” when she was like 15. Barbara Walters and Rosie O’Donnell should be embarrassed and ashamed.
15:14 is no one questioning why Annie chose to photograph her like that? Miley was a child. Annie was a professional photographer who knew those photos would cause a stir and that’s why she took them. I really feel for Miley. Being ‘agreeable and easy to work with’ are the very qualities she was praised for but then crucified for when following the artistic direction of a very famous artist.
My gosh they were really hard on her. I totally get her breaking out years. Why don’t these parents be the role models for their kids and not someone who is just living her life for herself??
Holy shit this just makes me sad!!! My daughter grew up with Miley, we went to one of her concerts. I remember being disappointed when Can't Be Tamed hit. I am SO ASHAMED for thinking that way!!!! I absolutely love Miley and everything she stands for now, I am very proud of how she has handled her life.
It’s crazy even as a kid when I was 10/11 who was a big fan of Miley, I didn’t see a huge deal or freak out with what Miley was doing in this era. It was mainly adults. Can’t be tamed is still my fav Miley album.
The whole leak when she was a CHILD (AND had to apologize) reminds me of Vanessa Hudgens' horrible exploitation when her pictures were leaked too. And she was ALSO a child! It's just so sick.
Miley turned out amazing. I’m so proud of her and she should be too. ❤ I’ve been a Miley fan since ‘06 and will always be. She’s been to hell and back with Disney, and I’m so happy to see her living her life on her terms. This video series is incredible, Deep Dive never disappoints! the best doc channel on YT imo :)
The idea that people demonize Miley Cyrus because she's always been naturally beautiful both inside and out says more about Society than it does about her
I vividly remember the day of the can't be tamed tv premiere. I watched it live in front of the TV and my parents were shocked and appalled, it really was so real how everyone wanted her to be kept in that Hannah image. I saw her on that first tour and everyone was there for "hannah" half the audience had left before Miley came out as herself for the final song. I can only imagine how that kind of shit affected her
Yes! I took my niece to see a miley concert in 2009 I think it was at the London o2. She had just left hannah montana pretty much but had released a miley cyrus cd. So many kids were there for "hannah". I remember parents there being disappointed. Oh PLEASE! So sad
The media is so dang annoying no wonder she did that vma performance 😒. They were scrutinizing her over absolutely nothing I can see it as a form of revenge to give them what they were accusing her of but on her terms.
I kinda do think that her vma performance and the bangerz era was meant to be a Fuck You to the tabloids and the twofaced Christians. I just felt she became annoying in her attempting to shock everybody by upping the antics
Now over a decade later, I do not find that Vanity Fair photo to be inappropriate, but I do not think Miley deserved the hate for it either. The fingers should of been pointed at Vanity Fair and the photographer - not Miley.
I love Miley so much. Can't be tamed is one of my favorite songs and I have always thought she rocked that darker side of fashion. Such a beautiful person 💕
I'm from Brazil and i've been watching your videos to improve my english listening. I always finish your videos thinking, how sad it was for these young women and men to grow up inside this sick industry. They were exploited, abused in so many ways and most of them lost themselves. I grew up watching hannah Montana. I looove miley, i know her story, but we didn't received details about what happened behind The scenes. Extremelly sad! But at the same time it's incredible how strong she was and still is! Love this channel!
hey Rebeca im from Brazil too, I feel the same thing about jennette mccurdy, i used to watch Icarly when i was a child and it was my favorite show, grow up and discovered all the sad and sick things that happened with her and the others stars its a hard thing to think
Britney, Selena, Gaga, Miley, all were essentially crucified for anything and everything but during that time, Bieber, Timberlake, and all the boys band singers were partying just as hard, probably even more, and effing around and none ever got shamed for it. No one ever questioned their sanity, or career choices, or called them derogatory names. The state of society we live in is just sad. Live and let live. You don't like what an artist is doing? Then it's just not for you. No need to trash said artist because they don't appeal to you. And can we stop with the double standard please?
Well said!! Misogyny and double standards! Kanye West would be in a conservatorship by now if he was a woman. Just like Britney spears was forced into 🙄
You need to open your eyes more. Justin Timberlake was often rumored to be the gay one of NSYNC before Lance Bass came out and Bieber was *destroyed* for looking ultra youthful by the general public that is the same age. He was often called a lesbian or gay and Baby was at one point the most disliked video on UA-cam history. Boy bands were often criticized for being 0% art and disposable, like industry crap meant just for teen girls
Not true at all lmfaooooo. If you don’t remember Justin Bieber, Charlie sheen, etc, being crucified relentlessly for their crazy partying choices, you either have your head in the sand or you purposely left that out to serve your point. Not to mention, the rampant homophobia that plagued all of the boys in the spotlight around that time as well. As a queer man, there’s things you haven’t paid attention to, due to the fact that it isn’t a relatable struggle for you, but it doesn’t mean you should act like these boys don’t go through their own issues regarding toxic masculinity and the patriarchy. I notice this a lot honestly. Women talking about women’s issues and completely ignoring that queer men exist or that men aren’t forced into boxes too🤷♂️
I could understand that she apologized because she had young girls who were majority of her fans and had this pressure to be a role model.But at the same time she was a teenage girl who raised by fame and media shamed as a kid for pictures of typical teenage stuff that was never meant to be seen by anyone but herself or close friends.She and other former Disney channel stars should never had to be shamed for growing up.
I agree with her defending her clothing choices at her age. I’m the same age as Miley (meaning I was 16 at the same time she was 16), and it was not uncommon for me and all my friends to wear things like short shorts and tank tops/things of that nature to school. She was picked on because media outlets saw an opportunity for profit off the heels of other stars like Lohan and Spears. Also at that age (and my sister, 3 years younger), we were very much aware of the grooming that took place with Disney stars and how their mental health was probably affected as a result.
The pole dancing and “sheet” photos were all orchestrated but adults. Choreographed. Edited. Approved. And distributed. By adults. Trusted adults. But her reputation and career were all put on the line. It all turned for the better. I’m happy she’s grown from this in a positive way.
I've literally checked Everyday waiting for part 2 to come out!! Now I will be obsessively checking for part 3 😁 yall have done an amazing job with these deep dives. I'm so glad I found this channel!!
Miley Cyrus the greatest star of our generation. Literally everything about her from her start to her evolution and bangerz era is insane she was born to be a star
Hang on... someone committed a digital sex crime against a child, and she is the one who had to apologise? Makes me sick.
the way he was bragging about it all I was thinking that he implies possesion of child pornography but everyone was ok with it and she faced a backlash for it??????
Legit. He was essentially spreading around child pornography yet SHE had to apologize for it? Make it make sense. What about the guy who saw "racy" pics of a 15yr old and immediately thought "I can make money from this" 🙄
@@maddieflamingo5026 it’s insane the rampant misogyny that was normalized at that time
it just shows how horrible disney was with its stars during that time. they had to be perfect. they had to become adults overnight. once the contract was signed they weren't allowed to be kids, to make mistakes and learn from them. that time in your life is when you make mistakes and learn whats right and wrong. but how can you do that when your entire life is being watched by the public and a giant company like disney? you can't. theres a reason why so many child stars went down bad paths... the industry destroys them, abuses them, milks them for all their worth and then throws them to the curb when they aren't good enough anymore. it's sick.
Welcome to America
Miley is the perfect example of “let’s blame the child for the decisions of the adults around her.” It’s disgusting.
You nailed it, it's so fucked up
No....let's watch the adult who was a child but spouts about how they've matured and make grown up decisions ...
Once a child grows up....unless medically unable to....ya got choices.
Not really sure what you’re talking about. Once Miley turned 18 and became said adult she was free to do as she pleased. She never chose her status as a child. She didn’t ask to be a role model. Once she was of age she became herself. It’s incredibly ridiculous to assume someone would continue to play pretend because kids like her show.
Especially because she's a girl, they sexualize young girls and then blame them for it
@@stephanie7142 exactly, that comment makes no sense .
It made me feel some type of way when the mom from Jupiter beach said ‘she looks like a little tramp’ and her daughter said the same thing right afterwards. It goes to show how we’re taught to hate other women by unwell women
Exactly! Us women have to hold each other up. We already battle so much hate and misogyny. knowing she was just 15 and a grown woman were talking about her like that then teaching her daughter to do it is disgusting!
Yes that was so painfully obvious
I was literally looking for a comment about this. You are 100% correct, it made me upset tbh
Right she wouldn’t say that to a normal 15 year old 😅
Yep. Tbh I've been treated way worse by a lot of other women than I ever have by men. The amount of men who have been like that towards me I can count on one hand. The amount of women I can't even count because there's so many.
“You better wear underwear every single day!” is an EXTREMELY strange thing to say to a 15-year-old
It was coming from a woman. I still get it, BUT I’m sure she was saying that as a subtle way of saying that Hollywood is full of pedophiles. Which it is. Jennifer from WOWP even said that when Selena turned 18, EVERYONE was hyping that up which on set, which is gross. I know how it looks but I’m sure she meant that to protect Miley and as a heads up. If it came from a man I would be creeped out
Is it though, have you seen the trash parents let their kids wear? It's disgusting. Why do schools have to have a skirt length dress code? Because parents don't parent anymore and kids turn into trashy people when parents just ignore their children.
@@insertnamehere2635 yes, it is an extremely strange thing to say. You really should not be concerned with whether or not teenagers are wearing underwear.
@@insertnamehere2635I've never gone somewhere with a dress code where they ask me about my underwear
it’s pretty clear Rosie was referring to the pictures that paparazzi would take of female celebrities under their skirts/dresses as they were getting out of their cars, and she was absolutely victim blaming those women by saying they should wear underwear to avoid that problem. it’s disgusting. how about we call out the paparazzi who were wrongfully taking pictures of women in compromising positions? her take didn’t even make sense considering wearing underwear wouldn’t even solve that issue. my heart breaks for Miley and all those other celebrities who were treated with such disrespect.
I will never forget how bad my mom was about the media giving her crap. She watched that award show where Miley was on the ice cream cart. My mom was like "how in the heck do they expect her not to fall off" "I was a mother at 15 so she's not doing so bad for herself" "Hannah Montana is a fictional character and these people needs to grow up" everyday she was fired up. Lol. I loved this about my mom. She didn't shame her or make me feel bad for loving her. I had friend whose mom's freaked out... it was a crazy time
Your moms a queen 🥰
ugh i envy you, my mom had a field day with this shit
My father said the same thing too. I was kinda shocked because he is a very conservative Christian man.
Right its a pole, not a sexy pole dance… they probably havent seen a pole dance before. But I also feel like its the stiff and modest USA that makes it weird. What do you say when your 10 year old is happy and spinns around a lamp pole outside? Do you think its pole dance and inappropriate or is it a child having fun and being happy?
Most kids that see her on the ice cream cart dont think anything bad… they are kids. Its the parents that make it weird because they are dirty minded….
Parents were so focused on finding a minor to be their child’s role model instead of just being a good role model themselves. No bashing another child for doing something you don’t like was their answer.
Exactly like what and a lot of those people who were saying that we grown ass adults like why are you even watching Disney channel your like 30 😂😂😂🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@frenchabortion love me George Carlin!
Amen to this🙌🏼
it’s funny bc their generation had people like madonna pushing it even further but they act so surprised by miley wearing a different kind of costume lol
Thissss!!!
Disney was happy to WORK her like an adult, but when she behaved like an adult they turn their back on her. Disgusting how much money they made off her but didn't have any money to wave at the tabloids to try and hush vicious stories like the photo shoot or anything like that
and I feel it was meant to be because the universe needed to severe her relationship with disney so she could thrive on her own - so glad she had such an amazing family because it is insane how she has remained so successful and down to earth and intelligent
WORK With tha devil,,,-ya get devil happenings,,,
Hell Demi had the right idea 🤷♀️
Shows how fking corrupt these studios are. From hiring ex pedo convincts, being abused and yelled at by the producer (Dan Schneider), and of course milking any actor or actress into being a pop star for them to make money off of.
It's now known as child exploitation and it's happening everyday on youtube by family vloggers. The kids are set up to be bullied and even abused. Ruby Franke being the first to inflict extreme torture to two of her kid's.
The hypocricy of the media and society makes me so angry. "Please don't turn out like Britney Spears blabla" as if they aren't the ones doing that to these young girls. Pushing them so hard, not giving them an ounce of privacy and criticising every single step they take. It's disgusting
Nono, but you see, teenage girls just like texting and shopping and boys and they wanna do the tiktok for attention while posing with Star Bucks !! Oh, but Miley is okay. She's not like other girls, with the texting and "omg, like, omg".
Also, like, I am pretty sure that teenage girls created Star Bucks and not the same generation that makes fun of them for buying Star Bucks.
100!
yess! exactly!!
Speak for yourself
I don't give 2 fkks about those 2
That's all on you, champ
Speaking of hypocrisy
Simple solution: don't watch
No ratings, no profit = that thing you hate going away
@@lockandloadlikehell you gave enough of a fuck to comment on the video. And you being on a video about someone you don't give a fuck about is interesting enough🙄. The irony
That one news reporter who stood up for her, the pressure she’s under, and respected her faith. 🎉 13:55 😊
Yes. I’m not religious but really appreciate that she said Christian’s make mistakes and they can be forgiven. The “christian” guy is ready to crucify Miley.
“I shouldn’t be ashamed. They should be” 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 say it louder Miley!
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Heck Yeah 🎉
As fully grown adult woman never in my life have I referred to a 15 CHILD as looking like a "tramp" That's psychotic.
I gasped at their reactions
Yeah,-besides her FULL ON TRAMP Status happened when she rode a big cement ball with a chain in her underwear,,,,,,🤪🤑🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@lg403 me too. I was shocked as well. And she's rude.
Yeah the fact that these adults in Hollywood made a 15 year old girl pose topless (which is literally illegal btw) and put in a magazine for the world to see is absolutely disgusting and then she got shit for it? She was literally groomed by adults as a minor and then blamed for it. Awful 😞
She did look like a tramp, though.
“I shouldn’t be ashamed, they should be” Yes! She is exactly right about that!
She should be ashamed as well.
She was a child yes she should be. She still made bad choices. So did her parents by not raising her better with more rules and regulations. This is what happened when kids are just left to do whatever they want
She was raised around a bunch of adults. Maybe people should be more concerned with how child stars are treated by them.@@insertnamehere2635
One of the things that upsets me about the whole Vanity Fair photo is that no one questioned why Annie or Vanity Fair thought it was okay to use the photo. Miley should have faced no backlash, but the magazine and photographer should have been criticized for sexualizing a 15 year old. I do think that the sexualization of child stars (as in under the age of 18) is a major issue and it's not their fault, but the media's fault. You can see it in the comments surrounding the photo by the media where one of the talking heads said that someone in Miley's position would have the maturity of an 18 year old.
Miley shouldn't be ashamed of the photo, but the photographer and media should be questioning why they are shaming and sexualizing child stars, particularly female ones. And then why they are blaming those child stars for their actions.
I agree with you 100% to this day I still want to know why they sexualized 15 year old and thought that was okay. I don’t remember anyone over criticizing Annie or vanity for doing that to Miley.
100.00 l+
I agree 1000+%!
SPOT ON.
None of them should be blamed. The photo wasn't sexual at all. Miley said so herself. It was people in the media looking to be outraged that sexualized it.
I’ve always felt so bad for her, when we’re teenagers and young, we want to be grown, look grown and act grown. This is that. She shouldn’t have to apologize.
It makes me wanna scream!!! I can’t believe they were blaming her so young as a child, when it is completely up to the parents and adults to protect the decision’s around the kids and the ones their kids make.
The “pole dancing” thing was hilarious. It literally feels like satire for parents overreacting. The “pole” looks like the umbrella stand on an ice cream truck that they’ve kept for health and safety reasons so she doesn’t fall. This poor woman can’t touch an umbrella stand without being critiqued. So happy she’s so unapologetic now.
Not to mention the news reporters calling her out about the dancing when she probably didn’t even choreograph any of it.
I was thinking the same thing. If the "pole" wasn't there, she wouldn't have anything to hold on to when riding the ice cream cart. I feel like if someone put an umbrella on top of the pole, no one would bat an eyelash lol. So blown out of proportion, and all the reporters/radio hosts overreacting is so funny (and so sad too).
It wasn't even dancing. She just sat down for a second
it's exactly as she said, THEY are the ones with a dirty mind and projecting their own perversions on everything she does no matter how trivial
@@wendistanley2350right. It’s telling that they had to use that still image of her sitting there to show her “pole dancing”. They knew if they showed a clip of the entire incident instead, everyone would know it was one second taken out of context.
It really sickens me that at just 15 she had to apologize for being sexualized and exploited by adults who were never held accountable. Everyone wanted to pick on the vulnerable kid. I'm so proud of her for speaking up for herself when she finally could. Queen knows her worth.
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It’s so ridiculous. Adults made decisions for her, other adults judged about. But instead of judging each other, they judge about someone who is not responsible and innocent in this case.
I would love her to do a documentary someday, I really want to hear her story similar to what Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez did to their documentaries
Hopefully Miley Is A Little More Grateful Than Selena Was.
@@collinkeyser6827 obviously the point of selena’s documentary went right over your head.
@@crab2195 I Just Know If Someone Gave Me Their Kidney They'd Know I'd Be Grateful. That Was Just Cold And Ungrateful Of Selena To Do That To The Person Who Literally Saved Her Life.
@@collinkeyser6827the documentary was called “My Mind & Me” not “Selena‘s Kidney Transplant”… i think she should’ve talked about it too but that wasn’t the focus of the documentary. and Miley hasn’t received a kidney transplant so i’m not sure what you’re hoping she’ll be grateful for
@@crab2195 the documentary talked about her mental AND physical health. Selena receiving a kidney transplant is something that impacted her life and should had been a big part of the documentary. The fact is that whole thing didn't exactly painted her in a good light to begin with and her ignoring it just made her look even worse.
i remember having to do a report on vanessa hudgens back in elementary school and it was around the time the leaked photos got out and my parents freaked out and called the school over "their child" seeing nude photos. looking back, it was so ridiculous, the school made an announcement that shes a bad role model and its just a shame the narrative that was pushed on her as if its HER fault someone invaded her privacy like that. disney just leaves these child actors to fend for themselves against the wolves. its disgusting and i hope the next generation of stars doesnt have to go through that and the general public becomes kinder towards them
This is so well made! I hope Miley sees this and knows that this age of information is shining a light on the darkness of Hollywood and we're here cheering her on❤️
Those hacked pictures weren’t even “mistakes”, they were normal teenage stuff. The amount of suggestive photos & jokes nearly all teenagers make is immeasurable. It’s so wild how she’s held to this crazy high standard. She was a teen!
i thought the same thing. if someone hacked me and saw my pics at 15 id be apologizing to the public too.
@@moonpixxxie666I'm sure a lot of us would be. I sent photos of myself to guys when I was 14. I can't think of any person that hasn't sent or received a explicit photo. I don't understand why it's normal for other teenagers but not her. She's not preaching sex to your kids - instead of hiding them from sex, maybe you should educate them about it instead. These people are lazy, judgemental parents, and want to keep their children from the realities of the world. Plus, I want to meet someone that calls a young girl a tramp. I bet they probably did the same things when they were younger.
It's not "normal" 🙄🙄
It was inappropriate
@@jessicasuzanne___get help
@@jessicasuzanne___By “normal,” she means that 3/4 of teenagers not only know about “inappropriate” things by that age, but they’re also often participating in it to some degree. Whether they’re simply making jokes about it, upping the Annie by taking photos related to it, or by full on participating it, & if you think your teens or teens you know aren’t participating in such things, then I can almost promise you that, in reality, they’re the worst ones. 😬
It’s funny how the media shamed Miley, Britney, and the other girls for everything under the sun, for not being a good role model, acting like adults etc, but child labor was never a problem for them?! Funny how those things worked in that time…
@Alejandro that’s so true, in a different way but equally as stupid 😂
It breaks my heart to hear all of these adults insulting, namecalling a 15 year old, but it hurts me even more to hear those two little girls repeating their mother's words (12:30) . People like that should not be raising a child
Yeah, that whole section will stick with me.
Such shameful behavior- (might add to this phones dying)
I can’t even explain the noise that came out of my mouth when I heard her say “scum”
I gasped, that was horrible. They treated britney this way also
I thought that part was so funny because here she is being like "omg Miley was topless at a photoshoot what a BAD ROLE MODEL" then proceeds to call her a tramp and scum in front of her young children.
How the media manipulated her into going down the same path they planned for her is truly disgusting and disturbing.
This is called social manipulation. They do it everyday through the news. Wake up
i was only a young girl when i saw the way miley was treated for "racy photos" and i vividly remember how i felt seeing those pictures. i felt personally attacked in a way. because sending such a harsh message to a young female celeb, also has ripple effects on the demographic watching.
Same. I was 12 or 13 when Can't be tamed came out. I loved the song, and my heavily christian mother forbade me from listening to it. I listened to it in secret, put it on my little mp3 player, had it hidden under a religious song name in my computer files, and deleted it off my mp3 player any time she asked my sister and I for our devices to 'make sure the devil wasn't misleading' us. (I also did the same with Eminem, and a bunch of screamo/emo bands.)
@@aleyajulias6435so related to loving Cant be Tamed and then seeing it being perceived as “bad”. The vid was so cool
It always makes me so sad to see how much these young girls who were so full of spirit and life in their earlier interviews look in later interviews. Maybe it’s just me but you can see it in their eyes. How being a child star, the paparazzi, the media, and constant criticism really did drain them. The toll it must take on a teenager to constantly be told that you are a disappointment because you didn’t live up to outrageous expectations. I just hope Miley and the others can all find peace and happiness now.
You are so right! I was just looking I’m her eyes she looks so much sadder or just tired
no I completely agree!! they were constantly being questioned and doubted no wonder they seem so distant :(
Selena and Demi also look so dead behind the eyes now.
Something also happened to her where she lost her voice that might be why shes a bit different and sounds different besides age but I think shes become a lovely person
It’s the fact that’s she’s 14/15 and the word sexy is being thrown around by ADULTS 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
people were so overdramatic...
@@baddestxoxo2love767 True lmfao.
Smh
It says more about the people who see it as "sexual".
Ikr? She looks like a BABY
"You didn't look like a father and a daughter " oh how unbelievable it is to be close to your child, to be able to hug them or show any other sign of care. 🙄
Yea I feel like he could have fought back on that more because if someone was accusing me of being too close to my daughter I’d be upset af
@@smileyattitude6807 That's a bit of "whataboutism", imo. It's not something that would ever be held against mothers. And against fathers most believe that's a valid claim, regardless.
watching these media interviews back floor me. I remember when the whole photoshoot happened, and my mom was appalled at how the press was treating her. In hindsight, so am I. They were lambasting a MINOR. its sick
I am so proud of how far she’s come since her days on Hannah Montana. the media was absolutely ruthless to her for the dumbest reasons, for most of her childhood.
When it comes to being a role model, it’s really not about your outfit or the pictures you take with your friends, I genuinely think the media was just desperately trying to see if she was going to “go crazy” and nitpicked everything she did…
Miley has remained determined, talented, and kind through it all and has never failed to pick herself back up again. She’s so strong for that fr fr
People wanted Miley to be “little miss sunshine, America’s sweetheart, Christian, country singing, Hannah Montana forever”…and Miley was meant to be fearless, free, undefeated, rebellious, inspiring, great and a rockstar
@@alextroy9202 sexism still exists
I read this as
Society wanted Miley to be the woman we wanted. Submissive, innocent, people pleasing.
But Miley decided to be a divine feminine empowered woman, a true role model ;-)
She’s a Scorpio moon! She was always meant to have her phoenix rising moment
But being a good hearted Christian is what we all need to be
@@michaelpaul9208 Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. I know more wicked religious people than people who don't subscribe to an ideology.
i've always loved Miley Cyrus so much but could never explain why, but this series explains why so perfectly. People like her or Jennette McCurdy or Lindsay Lohan & more, they were put under so much pressure but still somehow fought tooth and nail to stay true to themselves. Miley is right, she's more of an inspiration than Hannah Montana ever was.
Lindsay Lohan was a trainwreck, you can't compare her to Miley or Jennette.
@@enriquesanchez9016 she had her trauma and reasons just like Britney, the Olsens, etc. Abuse from home and from work & the media, and even someone she considered a friend. A 'trainwreck' after all is always caused by something going wrong. Even Paris being a shitty person & bully came from having a rough upbringing and while a lot of the girls that "went off the rails" have done questionable and sometimes terrible things, it's all in the same vein and their fame and being criticized everywhere they went definitely didn't help.
I never really stopped to think but they heavily framed her as a a wild, uncontrollable woman back then. As someone who was young and deeply into Hannah Montana at the time, I’m ashamed to say I did buy into it. But upon reflection Miley was out here literally just existing as many teens do, she was just unfortunately in the public eye.
I’m glad to see that even during those years of turmoil, she turned out alright, and she’s unapologetically herself. I’ll support her always ❤
Unfortunately I bought into it as well back then, but as I grew older I understood more of the pressure that these stars go through to be presented as “perfect” role models at any age, but especially for child stars growing up for other children. Disney really sells that desire to become a star on their channel, but what these kids don’t see is the abuse that comes with being one of their “stars”, they only see the fame and unfortunately the aftermath of when someone wants to unchain themselves from the company.
I do regret my reaction to the story that the media sold about Miley, however like she said we can’t go back in time to change it, but we can go forward with a more open mind and learn from our mistakes. I honestly am proud of her, throughout everything, she still has her head on tight regardless of what the media or anyone else seems to think. In the end it is her life to live, not anyone else’s and she’s living a pretty damn good life.
I fell for it too , like they did with a lot of stars at the time. It was so common to make these child stars look bad as they became adults and no longer acted childlike, we didn't bat an eye to it. Now I see it for what it is, the media trying to spin a narrative and make money off of someone else's misery. It was disgusting behavior I'm glad I'm old enough to see now. Luckily society is starting to notice how much they have used and sexualized these people when they were WAY too young for it and hopefully we can stop this from happening to more child stars in the future.
I'm glad I never bought into it, I even remember defending Britney Spears to my mom and saying "it's the paparazza that is cruel and she just needs help" and I was really young. Idk where I knew it, but I just knew. The same with Miley, I said it wasn't her or Vanessas fault the photos got leaked and it's just a photo.
I’ve been a fan of Miley since I was really young, like 3? Always been updated on her as well as the media and Disney channel outlets and was ALWAYS upset on how people treated Miley and framed her as a “bad girl” or “rebel”. She was the IT girl of Disney and on top of the world as a teenager yet a lot of adults and parents in the world was shaming her which reflected on the younger audience who did the same because of how the media fed those words to people. Like even me being young, I know common sense. I’ve always supported her and was her biggest fan during Can’t Be Tamed since she did what she wanted to, I couldn’t stand people’s reactions towards her. I’m glad she’s unapologetic and being herself now and more glad on how society has a more “open mind” than before towards Miley.
Parents looking to Hollywood teens for role models for their children are the real problem here and the public constantly consuming those gross magazines. I love Miley she’s strong and I’m glad she came out of this alive
Chris Evans is that now that you can just like in my life 💘💘💘💘 and right tomorrow now soon did you take me ok now that you can find out
I agree totally but Disney marketed her like that to 10 year olds.
@@paulthomas963 Chris Evans TV show and talk tomorrow and back now you can do this and you can find out now soon did you need you do that if you now that we go back and look at this video and see if you
“actually i shouldn’t be ashamed they should be”… sobbing
hearing grown adults talk so poorly about a 15 year old girl is heartbreaking…. they act like miley had a say at 15 what was going to be published. all of the vanity fair issues were out of her control
These deep dives have so many triggers I wasn’t even aware of. The way this narrative has flopped in a decade is truly fascinating and the way we perceived Miley Cyrus through her career SO SPECIFICALLY NARRATED to be “too promiscuous” when she was literally just existing… My mind is blown here, thank you for your time on these guys this is good stuff, great stuff. 🎉
I just realised y’all don’t even have 300k subs yet. That’s crazy you give us full blown documentaries and deserve more credit.
Share share share! Share on all your social medias and with all your friends. 🥰
Literally!
Def gonna blow up
Truth!
With 10% less gossip, this channel's content would be scary good. And hits a weird but cool niche, it's like true crime meets 2007 meets Perez Hilton.
ahh this brought tears to my eyes but seeing the preview for the next one gave me such goosebumps!! she deserves to be herself and i am so proud of her 😭💖
I grew up with Miley, as she grew up. We are only like 3-4 years apart in age. When she was Hannah, I was the age that that show was targeting so I was a HUGE Hannah fan.
I remember when I stopped being a Hannah fan and finally grew out of it. It was a few weeks before Christmas. I was living with my gramma at the time. I went out to the living room, went over to my Hannah Montana stocking, and looked at my gramma. I just kind of held the stocking and told my gramma "I don't think I like Hannah Montana anymore."
It was pretty much around the same time that Miley, herself, was done with Hannah Montana. So as Miley got older and matured out of the Hannah persona, I also got older and matured out of the Hannah fandom.
But as for Miley Cyrus? I am a HUGE fan and will always be a fan of hers and support her. I adore her so much. I'm just so happy she is able to be herself.
Blaming a child for their own exploitation. Absolutely horrible.
No one must be expected to be a role model. Parents mustn't let their kids see stars as models. First, all celebrities are human beings, they have all the right to party and misbehave, just like any person does. Second, children's role models must be their own parents. Not someone they don't know.
Miley's always been a wild, unapologetic soul, and I love her for that.
I love how much she's evolved, and turning into rock has been her best choice since she's always been a rockstar.
Your comment is on point! All the human sheep in this video crying about this false image the media created should be forced to write your comment 500 times like a kid in school that needs to learn something. Good job!
Agreed. No one famous goes into this thinking I want to be role models for young kids. Parents need to do their job and instill values in their kids instead of telling them to look up to people, living a lifestyle most people will never know.
Correct. No one should be expected to be a role model. Certainly not kids
The misogyny displayed by the media and adults around her throughout her life is absolutely despicable
When i was younger and read all the news about her i didnt know how to feel about it. I mean i always loved the shows and her performances but as soon as i read the topics i thought may she has a bad influence on me. Now i actually think miley helped me to breakfree from boundaries. I make my own decisions like her. And if its wrong i learn. But i never apologize for the way I am.
I was like 11 when that magazine cover of Miley came out, and even as a kid I never viewed it as provocative. To me, it always looked sort of dark and sad, and I felt bad for her. It’s not like she had any choice in doing it. It’s weird to be an adult now and look back at everything all those grown adults said about her on tv. Shameful
I remember thinking it was kind of beautiful, in a melancholic way. And given she was the subject, not the artist, I don't know how on earth anyone could consider her at fault for it. Thankfully, the news media in my country were more interested in condemning the photographer than her.
I love these videos. It’s a mix of the old TMZ style “drama” with a sympathetic view instead of an exploitative one. Thanks guys.
This seems like soooo long ago, and so much of it practically archaic. Adults were making these decisions and adults were attacking this child star. It's crazy to see how much the world can change, but sad to see how far we still have to come. Love this channel and truly appreciate the amount of work going into each video.
it's insane to me how y'all are giving us netflix level documentaries but don't even have 300k subs yet?? keep up the good work 👏🏻
Can't believe y'all didn't do the last of video of miley!!!!I've been waiting for that video for weeks now
Idk who edits these but y’all know how to build suspense better than most big budget movies these days
Miley just suffered to panic attacks and anxiety at her last concert at Mexico. I love her since I was 11. I always wanted her life back then. But today with 25 I’m more than happy that I didn’t had this life. People like her and Selena are already exhausted with 30, because they worked their whole childhood. It’s just sad and I hope the best for them.
@@alextroy9202 Thanks but seems like most of the people understood my comment.
stanning miley cyrus isn’t just a hobby, it’s a lifestyle, a reason to breathe, an escape from this cruel world filled with thieves. it’s art
How sweet
Too much stanning ends with you abducting your pregnant wife and then driving the three of you into the water
It use to be and then we grew up... right?
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@@yupp561 NO!
Isn’t it ironic that all these people said Miley acted “too old” but when you have someone like JoJo they still make fun of her and say she acts too young
and now the same thing is happening to jojo
And they didn’t have a single problem when she was getting overworked and underpaid like an adult.
Props to Emmanuelle Chirqui for seemingly being the only voice of reason when Miley posed for Vanity Fair. This made me like Emmanuelle even more. 15 year old (!!!) Miley was being blamed for the decisions made FOR her by adults.
I always liked her.
South park literally made an episode like 10 years ago all about how the media treats Brittney vs how they treat miley. I was shocked to see south park sympathize with her at a time where everyone was dog piling see them make an entire episode with sympathy and heartbreak about the media going after britney and eventually miley was crazy. Its still funny and dark but the message is there.
RETUS! 🎵
i will never get over the insane backlash that the pic in Vanity Fair got. that’s a beautiful picture. it’s not even sexualized!!!
I don't view it as sexual at all either,
It was so sick how a grown woman called a minor a “little tramp”
Even if it was perceived as sexualized, the backlash should be at the magazine itself and not the CHILD in the photo. SMH I hate it here
A child should not be posing like that for a magazine. She was only 15
@@mariemarie6778 exactly
“Does this photo change your mind about Hannah Montana?” “Yeah” SHES NOT HANNAH MONTANA, SHES MILEY. HM WAS A TV ROLE. This is why she hated being associated with the character so much. Im very happy about her now though, i always admired and liked Miley so much. You go girl!
Exactly !
One of the best artist to come out of the millennial generation. When you think back to the 2010's you see Miley EVERYWHERE! I can see where the comparisons to Britney/Miley come from and how there stories could be similar. Both blew up at a young age and how the Media wanted to twist their world to sell, even at the cost of their mental/wellbeing .
@@KRSonbe Agree. She was really popular around 2007-2009 (and kinda 2010) then she was kinda losing popularity all around the early 2010s until she came with Bangerz in 2013.
Parents should be the role models! Why put that responsibility on another child???
About a year ago listed to my favorite Disney Channel songs from my childhood, and the meta narrative of Hanna Montana just hit me (really late, I know). Literally singing "underneath it all I am just like you" and how Miley Stewart also struggled with being famous, but it was worse for the real Miley, she didn't have a secret identity to shelter under, it's really sad.
If your kids saw Miley standing by a pole and they think “STRIPPER POLE” then you’re the problem!!!
I'm such a Miley fan and nothing makes me happier than seeing her living her truth now unapologetically
Me too
plus the smoking did her voice wonders tbh i love how sultry it is now she's amazing and so cool artistically
I think everyone who called her a tramp literally just wanted to be on TV she literally did nothing wrong and if we saw your everyday 15 year old do that now nobody would bat an eyelash it’s ridiculous honestly and I feel so sorry she had to go through any of this
It was all done on purpose to demonize her for monetary gains
Smh
Man, it really does seem like she was confident in herself even as a teen. The whole world telling her to feel bad about herself and it seemed she always knew what they were doing.
"I'm growing up and it is not my job to parent... I'm a kid right now" sad a 15 year old had to remind everyone of this
Miley ran so the other Disney girls didn’t have to. I’ll always respect her for breaking out of Disney like she did. Screw them for blocking her over cant be tamed
“How do you know what happened to Britney, and Lindsay, and Jamie Lynn Spears won’t happen to you.” Okay well first of all, love how she only uses female examples when we have examples of male stars going through addiction or unplanned pregnancy as well. Right there we know she is coming from a place of misogyny. Second of all, when you see someone going through something tough, if you feel anything but empathy you should reflect on your own failings and figure out why you don’t have empathy for others.
I do find it extremely disturbing that Anne L thought, "Hey, you're 15.... take your top off, and I'll photograph you wrapped up in a bedsheet." Like, why are we not looking at this woman a little closer?
Y’all went innnn. I love it. I love Miley. What time is it? this is all I’m doing tonight. Great editing y’all. So good.
I’m mostly upset that the Disney/ Hannah Montana machinery deprived us of Rock Miley for so long. Listening to PlasticHearts was a revelation. Her voice is perfect for it.
I was a massive fan during the Can’t be Tamed era, growing up alongside Miley and it felt so fucking refreshing seeing her grow too and explore. We weren’t kids anymore, we wanted to feel hot, we wanted to rebel. And she never rebelled in a way that felt out of her control - like she says herself.
Dunno, always felt weird how she was treated, she’s fucking great.
It’s really gross to me that a panel of grown adult women (I’m speaking specifically of The View) think it’s ok to shout “I made Miley Cyrus promise to wear underwear!!!!” when she was like 15. Barbara Walters and Rosie O’Donnell should be embarrassed and ashamed.
15:14 is no one questioning why Annie chose to photograph her like that? Miley was a child. Annie was a professional photographer who knew those photos would cause a stir and that’s why she took them.
I really feel for Miley. Being ‘agreeable and easy to work with’ are the very qualities she was praised for but then crucified for when following the artistic direction of a very famous artist.
My gosh they were really hard on her. I totally get her breaking out years. Why don’t these parents be the role models for their kids and not someone who is just living her life for herself??
Holy shit this just makes me sad!!! My daughter grew up with Miley, we went to one of her concerts. I remember being disappointed when Can't Be Tamed hit. I am SO ASHAMED for thinking that way!!!! I absolutely love Miley and everything she stands for now, I am very proud of how she has handled her life.
It’s crazy even as a kid when I was 10/11 who was a big fan of Miley, I didn’t see a huge deal or freak out with what Miley was doing in this era. It was mainly adults. Can’t be tamed is still my fav Miley album.
Same
The whole leak when she was a CHILD (AND had to apologize) reminds me of Vanessa Hudgens' horrible exploitation when her pictures were leaked too. And she was ALSO a child! It's just so sick.
I keep checking in for Part 3! Can’t wait!!
i literally just found this channel TODAY and have watched most of the videos… how are y’all not famous? the documentaries are so high quality
Miley turned out amazing. I’m so proud of her and she should be too. ❤ I’ve been a Miley fan since ‘06 and will always be. She’s been to hell and back with Disney, and I’m so happy to see her living her life on her terms. This video series is incredible, Deep Dive never disappoints! the best doc channel on YT imo :)
PERIOD!!😢
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"a teen girl almost kissed another teen girl who she was friends with"
oh god... no... not every bi girl finding out she's bi
how could she
nooooooo
The idea that people demonize Miley Cyrus because she's always been naturally beautiful both inside and out says more about Society than it does about her
I vividly remember the day of the can't be tamed tv premiere. I watched it live in front of the TV and my parents were shocked and appalled, it really was so real how everyone wanted her to be kept in that Hannah image. I saw her on that first tour and everyone was there for "hannah" half the audience had left before Miley came out as herself for the final song. I can only imagine how that kind of shit affected her
Yes! I took my niece to see a miley concert in 2009 I think it was at the London o2. She had just left hannah montana pretty much but had released a miley cyrus cd. So many kids were there for "hannah". I remember parents there being disappointed. Oh PLEASE! So sad
The media is so dang annoying no wonder she did that vma performance 😒. They were scrutinizing her over absolutely nothing I can see it as a form of revenge to give them what they were accusing her of but on her terms.
I kinda do think that her vma performance and the bangerz era was meant to be a Fuck You to the tabloids and the twofaced Christians. I just felt she became annoying in her attempting to shock everybody by upping the antics
@@strawberrylime33and it worked but on her terms. I’m proud of her honestly.
@@strawberrylime33 yeah it was a major troll and they deserved it tbh
@@strawberrylime33 Yeah it was like watching two idiots go back and forth at each other from an outsider perspective lol.
Now over a decade later, I do not find that Vanity Fair photo to be inappropriate, but I do not think Miley deserved the hate for it either. The fingers should of been pointed at Vanity Fair and the photographer - not Miley.
I honestly think she was sexulixed and exploited. Plus the pictures she took with her dad for the vanity fair seems inappropriate.
So glad my parents loved this show with me as a kid. So sorry she had to endure so much hate
I love Miley so much. Can't be tamed is one of my favorite songs and I have always thought she rocked that darker side of fashion. Such a beautiful person 💕
I'm from Brazil and i've been watching your videos to improve my english listening. I always finish your videos thinking, how sad it was for these young women and men to grow up inside this sick industry. They were exploited, abused in so many ways and most of them lost themselves.
I grew up watching hannah Montana. I looove miley, i know her story, but we didn't received details about what happened behind The scenes. Extremelly sad! But at the same time it's incredible how strong she was and still is!
Love this channel!
Muito obrigada por ver o nosso vídeo. Estou a tentar melhorar o meu português. Truly incredible how strong she is 🥹
Your English is great! I'm from Dominican Republic and I also love this channel so much!
hey Rebeca im from Brazil too, I feel the same thing about jennette mccurdy, i used to watch Icarly when i was a child and it was my favorite show, grow up and discovered all the sad and sick things that happened with her and the others stars its a hard thing to think
Esse documentário é perfeito. Queria tanto que fosse legendado em português 😭
Britney, Selena, Gaga, Miley, all were essentially crucified for anything and everything but during that time, Bieber, Timberlake, and all the boys band singers were partying just as hard, probably even more, and effing around and none ever got shamed for it. No one ever questioned their sanity, or career choices, or called them derogatory names. The state of society we live in is just sad. Live and let live. You don't like what an artist is doing? Then it's just not for you. No need to trash said artist because they don't appeal to you. And can we stop with the double standard please?
Well said!! Misogyny and double standards! Kanye West would be in a conservatorship by now if he was a woman. Just like Britney spears was forced into 🙄
They tried to put Kanye in a conservatorship. They talked about it on this channel.
You need to open your eyes more. Justin Timberlake was often rumored to be the gay one of NSYNC before Lance Bass came out and Bieber was *destroyed* for looking ultra youthful by the general public that is the same age. He was often called a lesbian or gay and Baby was at one point the most disliked video on UA-cam history. Boy bands were often criticized for being 0% art and disposable, like industry crap meant just for teen girls
Not true at all lmfaooooo. If you don’t remember Justin Bieber, Charlie sheen, etc, being crucified relentlessly for their crazy partying choices, you either have your head in the sand or you purposely left that out to serve your point. Not to mention, the rampant homophobia that plagued all of the boys in the spotlight around that time as well. As a queer man, there’s things you haven’t paid attention to, due to the fact that it isn’t a relatable struggle for you, but it doesn’t mean you should act like these boys don’t go through their own issues regarding toxic masculinity and the patriarchy. I notice this a lot honestly. Women talking about women’s issues and completely ignoring that queer men exist or that men aren’t forced into boxes too🤷♂️
Did you seripusly said that Justin wasn't criticised at all?
I could understand that she apologized because she had young girls who were majority of her fans and had this pressure to be a role model.But at the same time she was a teenage girl who raised by fame and media shamed as a kid for pictures of typical teenage stuff that was never meant to be seen by anyone but herself or close friends.She and other former Disney channel stars should never had to be shamed for growing up.
U ppl r so amazing at providing us a balanced perspective nd the full story rather than incomplete truths.। ❤❤
Having kids sign a contract for years of their lives is actually ridiculous.
They really had her so manipulated thinking that there was nothing wrong with the way adults were exploiting her
The way people come at her in interviews ND how calm she stays is really inspirational. Like that does not even phase her
I agree with her defending her clothing choices at her age. I’m the same age as Miley (meaning I was 16 at the same time she was 16), and it was not uncommon for me and all my friends to wear things like short shorts and tank tops/things of that nature to school. She was picked on because media outlets saw an opportunity for profit off the heels of other stars like Lohan and Spears. Also at that age (and my sister, 3 years younger), we were very much aware of the grooming that took place with Disney stars and how their mental health was probably affected as a result.
so gross to see that 40 something year old woman shaming a 15 year old miley cyrus right in front of what looks like her own teenage daughter
The pole dancing and “sheet” photos were all orchestrated but adults. Choreographed. Edited. Approved. And distributed. By adults. Trusted adults. But her reputation and career were all put on the line. It all turned for the better. I’m happy she’s grown from this in a positive way.
I've literally checked Everyday waiting for part 2 to come out!! Now I will be obsessively checking for part 3 😁 yall have done an amazing job with these deep dives. I'm so glad I found this channel!!
Miley Cyrus the greatest star of our generation. Literally everything about her from her start to her evolution and bangerz era is insane she was born to be a star
so good !!!! I wish your video essays had Spanish versions so I could share your channel with friends that don't speak English