Ben Hogan Magic Moves | Right Elbow

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  • @CogornoGolf
    @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +34

    Hey guys - Mary here - apologies on the occasional audio static here. Making technical adjustments in our winter location so we can do better for you moving forward. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

    • @mangelarsson7774
      @mangelarsson7774 3 роки тому +3

      We dont mind Mary, the quality is in general excellent!! :-D

    • @marylengle4029
      @marylengle4029 3 роки тому +1

      @@mangelarsson7774 Appreciate that Mange!

    • @robcul471
      @robcul471 2 роки тому

      Ps bbx v mbv press

  • @piersdunkley1872
    @piersdunkley1872 3 роки тому +6

    Great stuff. Ben Hogan has been my golf idol and inspiration for over 60 years now. I started teaching myself golf from his book, "The Modern Fundamentals of Golf", which is still as true and clear as it was then. Thanks.

  • @johnbak9395
    @johnbak9395 3 роки тому +7

    Eric best tip ever. Over 50years ago I was given the very same instruction by my golf coach. At impact Hogan said he felt he could hit the ball flush like he had 2 right hands. I was hitting the ball so flush that I felt I could actually hit the call off concrete. I played my best golf and my coach told me to get Hogan’s book on the 5 Fundamentals. Over the years I gotten away from the move you just showed me. I can’t wait to get out and do this. Thanx So Much

    • @georgetinwick3450
      @georgetinwick3450 Рік тому

      Beautiful explanation tks i think i finally get it been so afraid to hit the ball what everyone says is a no no my arms are verbal passive especially the right hand and arm no no hitting putting pressure on the back of the ball with right arm and hand going across the chest has escaped me for a lifetime even though i read Hogans book years ago YOUR explanation of how he created so much power especially through the hitting area oops did i say hitting bad word right is brilliant as usual tks so much for your insightful priceless coaching

  • @jorgehernandez6409
    @jorgehernandez6409 3 роки тому +3

    One of the simplest videos I’ve seen in a while. Good job

  • @bjohnson515
    @bjohnson515 3 роки тому +2

    Elbow over the wrist bone.....a key phrase.
    The bowing of the wrist helps drive that elbow to that position....
    Hogan did the opposite in the backswing to that which he wanted on the downswing...
    Cupped wrist going back....bowed wrist coming down
    Internal elbow rotation going back...external rotated going into downswing...
    Doing this gives the moves more power as they reverse themselves into the downswing.
    Very Good Video!
    Ballard talked of this. Ballard referred to Hogan pointing his trail elbow away on the backswing, then driving it in on the downswing.
    The videos you choose are from Hogan in his 50s. His 1953 swings are his best IMO.
    The arm working across the chest is a new one to me.. SO the arms gain speed on the chest?
    Again, great video, thanks.

  • @neilh4729
    @neilh4729 Місяць тому +1

    As someone who has a strong grip and struggles with a hook, this is great advice to help keep the clubface from closing too much.

  • @JoeysSG
    @JoeysSG 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent! This is the piece I have been overlooking forever. Thank you!

  • @johnbak9395
    @johnbak9395 3 роки тому +1

    Eric, Best tip ever. Hogan said in his book 5 Fundamentals at impact he felt like he had 2 right hands. Over 50 years ago my golf coach showed me exactly what you just showed. I played my best golf then actually feeling like I could hit my irons flush off of concrete. Over the years I lost that feeling and have been searching to get it back. He told me the only reference I should refer to is Hogan’s 5 Fundamentals and not to read any other magazines or books on golf instruction since it could lead to paralysis by analysis. You have done it Thanx so much. Can’t wait to get out to the range.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Love it, John! Appreciate the kind words and support my friend

  • @TerdFerguson
    @TerdFerguson 3 роки тому +1

    Everything you demonstrated with the flying elbow has been exactly what I have been struggling with. Thanks for helping visualize.

  • @randyunderwood2894
    @randyunderwood2894 3 роки тому +2

    you know how i love old school golf Eric. no you're talkin dirty to me! lol
    looking forward to the rest of these.

  • @TeddyCavachon
    @TeddyCavachon 2 роки тому +2

    Hogan set up his right arm to fold as it did by how he gripped the club in the air with bent elbows then straightened the arms while lowering it. Using the Vardon grip correctly with the left thumb fitting into the groove created by holding the left thumb tight to the left index finger causes the ulna and radius bones to rotated around themselves putting them mid-way in their range of motion and twisting the arms as illustrated in Five Lessons with the illustration of the hands wringing the towel. With the club lowered he then pressed down with right arm against left thumb in the grip pulling all the slackness and “give” out of his arms.
    That’s how he achieved that tight V connection between upper arms and rib cage that countless clueless golfer try to create by trying to pull arms in against ribs with gloves or towels in their sweat armpits. Getting the right arm to stay tucked in during the backswing up to the top is just a matter of letting the club face open with wrist action in the takeaway because the swing plane going up to the top is influenced by the direction the toe of the club head is pointing. If pointing forward toward the target line the path up will be steep like Nicklaus whose preferred shot is a high fade. To the the very tight inside path Hogan let the toe point backwards which steered it on a much lower path preventing his right arm from separating.
    The moving club generates so much force, so quickly it becomes difficult to steer with the hands after the first 18 inches or so why pre-torquing the arms and hands with the techniques I mentioned is critical for a consistent swing. So is never grounding the club. Letting the club hang freely and swing in towards body as you lean over at the hips brings the wedges and irons into balance like a pendulum and the counter weight of the club head mass hanging out at the ball is what allowed Hogan to sit down backwards balanced on his heels at address to anticipate being pulled forward by the club force before impact.
    All Hogan’s secrets are seen in plain sight in videos of his swing including the waggle move which at address was actually a rehearsal of how he “hammered” down at the ball maxing out ulnar deviation and locking wrists with face square to target just as ball released like a bullet from the face because of the wrists locking. The clue for that is in how he released the extension in his right wrist as he waggled down and lifted his back foot at the same time in a very controlled way to keep allow the hips and ands to resume moving. He copied that wrist action from Harry Frankenberg.

  • @aq7705
    @aq7705 3 роки тому +1

    Will try that - arms across pec is new to me.
    The sound of your strikes wow- music to my ears. Thanks eric - best coach ever in the history of golf.

  • @gerardlongobardi7890
    @gerardlongobardi7890 2 місяці тому +1

    Great tip, and fantastic explanation and demonstration. Bravo! About 6-7 years ago I developed a “feel” in my swing that I would lean with the right elbow, and it worked fantastic. Perhaps I never should have gotten away from it.

  • @denniskline3225
    @denniskline3225 3 роки тому +2

    This video is one of your best. Tell Mary understand and not to be to concerned about the sound problem - the video was great.

  • @marcelocorreadonoso6434
    @marcelocorreadonoso6434 2 роки тому +2

    Eric, I am from Chile. I appreciate so much yours tip, especially this one " The right arm moves", I started playing golf just 2 years ago, and right now I have hdcp 15. Thanks for all your lessons. Sorry my english.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому

      Appreciate that and thanks for tuning in!! :)

  • @roerlema
    @roerlema 3 роки тому +1

    Always appreciated the great content and your style of presentation Eric,thankyou for doing it for us.The right arm across the chest is definitely a light bulb moment for me,feels great and will stop my flipping tendencies 👍

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it! Our pleasure!

  • @retired8123
    @retired8123 3 роки тому +2

    That was a great detailed explanation...Thank you!!!

  • @RiseUp1000
    @RiseUp1000 3 роки тому +3

    Great stuff, Eric, as usual. I was watching a Greg McHatton video and he was relaying a story told by Jim Waldron who asked Tom Weisskopf what was his greatest lesson ever. Weisskopf said Mr. Hogan told him to superglue the right arm (from just above the elbow to the arm pit) to the right side of his body as he was delivering the club into the ball. That’s the adduction concept you are referencing here in your video (he also said to do the same thing with the left arm!). That feeling of tightness or connection adds to the stability of the club working through the hitting area as the strike is delivered more with the pivot than with the arms and hands. Great explanation of the external rotation and the lining up of the pit of the elbow with the wrist bone. Looking forward to future videos on Mr. Hogan’s magic moves. Thanks for sharing.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Appreciate the kind words my friend! Fun swing and topic to study!

  • @RealHIFIHelp
    @RealHIFIHelp 3 роки тому +3

    I am glad you covered this. Good inside info.

  • @ryangelrod6058
    @ryangelrod6058 3 роки тому +3

    Brilliant video Eric. The best explanation of these concepts I have ever seen.

  • @rennies891
    @rennies891 3 роки тому +3

    As someone who has limited external shoulder rotation this drill has helped me get a more shallow downswing. Been lucky to try this on the course and the results are amazing. A massive thank you from me.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Excellent! Glad to hear that Damion!

  • @jduncanm3golf
    @jduncanm3golf 2 роки тому +1

    brilliant work, thanks!

  • @keithlucero6207
    @keithlucero6207 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks again- great lesson & information about the golf swing - wonderful explanation and communication I’m telling your UA-cam fans this guy is a great golf instructor - enjoy the day to all - keith

  • @bonzai3256
    @bonzai3256 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Eric, loved the video, the info was VERY helpful. Here's something that really helped me regards to "feel" at the start of my downswing, I try to feel as if my right elbow is pulled straight down towards the ground. I hope this helps others to obtain the "feel," again thanks, keep up the great work..

  • @sevesellors2831
    @sevesellors2831 2 роки тому +1

    Great lesson Eric thank you!

  • @dadacholo
    @dadacholo 3 роки тому +1

    Great video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks Eric!!🔥

  • @frankcanzanella6753
    @frankcanzanella6753 Місяць тому

    I’m watching the video two years later and feel that I need to go to the driving range and implement external rotation of my right elbow and having my right hand come across my chest as you suggest. At 73 years old I can still find myself 100-120 yards from the green for my second shot on par 4’s. Some fellows are set in their ways and will not consider anything different. They say my ideas are too complicated.

  • @TriCityAikidoCA
    @TriCityAikidoCA 3 роки тому +1

    Such a great video. This relates to the RIT release method for 1 plane swingers.

  • @peterforrest6682
    @peterforrest6682 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent explanation...thanks Eric

  • @johnherman3261
    @johnherman3261 3 роки тому +1

    Trailing elbow differently the key to hitting good shots. As discussed I do have a small fade so the club face is open a smidge. Timing getting the club face square I’m working on. Your the best golf instructor on UA-cam. I look forward to hopefully meeting you someday. Stay safe, and enjoy the holidays.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Appreciate the kind words, John!

  • @jontuttle5560
    @jontuttle5560 Рік тому +1

    I have been struggling to hit anything under an 8 iron, dang this tip just took me to another level. Last night at the range I was able to hit my 6 iron straight with loft I never had before; keeping my lead arm elbow tucked felt a little awkward at first but once I got the feeling my consistency improved so much. I just bought the Orange Whip too; so with the orange whip my tempo and back swing are a 3:1 ratio, and with the elbow trick it all came together to produce some amazing long iron shots. I noticed the elbow is almost attached to my side with the short irons and begins to travel a little bit away from the body with the longer irons. Amazing, Simply amazing. Thanks, Eric!!

  • @jimgold5582
    @jimgold5582 3 роки тому +3

    Good morning Eric and Mary another fabulous video you are truly a gift to all us golfers I want to wish you and Mary Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Thanks, Jim! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!

    • @marylengle4029
      @marylengle4029 3 роки тому

      Thank you Jim! - for your constant viewership and unwavering support. Appreciate you and Happy Holidays!!

  • @thomasfraser9072
    @thomasfraser9072 2 роки тому +1

    At the top of Hogan’s downswing his trail elbow and trail forearm; hands and wrists were all passive and yet highly reactive as you broke it down except in order to achieve this at the start of Hogan downswing he knew to simply push his radius humerus bone against his trail rip gage and to continues pushing with his trail humerus bone all the way to the finish of his swing. Every great player does exactly this
    This works for him and everyone who can realize for themselves that the trail shoulder blades is the true axis of a great golf swing and that the trail humerus bone ( upper arm) is the primary lever/spoke that can actually turn our entire body back and forth in our golf swing. It was Hogan’s secret and believe me now that I know it; at 73 my ball striking accuracy has improved 100 percent. Cheers

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Love it

    • @thomasfraser9072
      @thomasfraser9072 2 роки тому

      @@CogornoGolf Hope you teach it. But if you do you won’t have repeat customers. Ha ha❤️😃⛳️👍😂

  • @hankb9173
    @hankb9173 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation provided here. Thanks!

  • @robertshowalter5534
    @robertshowalter5534 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, awesome video. Have noticed that keeping trail elbow in really helps iron hits. Emphasis here on Hogan moves, wrist-elbow, even better. Great video Eric

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      thanks, Robert!

    • @fairwayhunter2
      @fairwayhunter2 3 роки тому +1

      @@CogornoGolf something to bear in mind is that the pec major muscle which is a powerful shoulder adductor also internally rotates the shoulder so exercises to strengthen the rotator cuff which externally rotate the shoulder might be useful especially for us older golfers who tend to lose external rotation as we "mature"

  • @jimsteffes6872
    @jimsteffes6872 6 місяців тому +1

    A real gem of a tip

  • @bassslayer7724
    @bassslayer7724 Рік тому +1

    This is great. I have incorporated it into my golf swing.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  Рік тому

      Hope it has served you well! Thanks for watching the channel!

  • @timhanna4700
    @timhanna4700 3 роки тому +1

    Only if I knew these many proper positions to be in while hitting a golf ball years ago. No broken clubs or lost sanity. LOL. Great basic visuals and instruction once again. Glad I found your channel.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +1

      :) Thanks for being with us, Tim!

  • @jawjuh1005
    @jawjuh1005 3 роки тому +1

    I know Ive probably said this before but I think that’s your best video ever! This move makes everything else good happen in my opinion.

  • @denniskline3225
    @denniskline3225 3 роки тому +4

    If you are looking for the heart of the golf swing this video demonstrates it.

  • @joshuazwilling8989
    @joshuazwilling8989 3 роки тому +2

    30 years ago when I was 10 my dad made me read Power Golf by Ben Hogan and from there he began my tutelage in golf. I would say my swing is very Hogan-esque and I too fight a hook or over draw in my game when not playing well. After seeing this video I am thinking the adduction component or lack there of is the difference between great golf for me and a poor round. I feel if I remember to think about the adduction component of this video I think it will improve my weight shift and body rotation and keep me from getting stuck or from being too far inside.

  • @Robschil
    @Robschil 3 роки тому +1

    You promote dragging the handle through impact. Like a check swing in baseball. Hogan threw (released) the the club head past the handle. Powerful effortless release by using a Right Inward Throw release. Love all your vids Eric.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Hey, Robert!
      Thank you for your feedback and opinion.
      I do not promote dragging the handle nor do I promote a throw.
      Each phrase is too simplistic to cover what's really going on in detail (as you likely know)
      I simply promote what good players do and checkpoints to hit.
      Here is more on this that should clear up any confusion: ua-cam.com/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/v-deo.html

    • @Robschil
      @Robschil 3 роки тому

      @@CogornoGolf Eric, in your May 2020 video with Kevin Roman, you cover the throw release verses twist release. Hey This is what Hogan did after he “found” the cause of his severe hooks. Sergio and Rory do it too!

  • @MrMcLovinOhYeah
    @MrMcLovinOhYeah 3 роки тому +2

    Great tip and vid! This move results in lag coming down to the ball and shaft lean at impact. It also virtually eliminates fat shots. Thanks!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Thanks, Josh! My pleasure my friend!

  • @hio164
    @hio164 3 роки тому +1

    It's a shame about the audio because this is one of the BEST videos about the trailing arm I've ever seen. Nice job.

  • @girv101
    @girv101 2 роки тому +1

    Gold dust as always Eric, felt something on the range today...right elbow leading the wrist on the start down and you just gave it clarity so thanks for that. Watching Morikawa gave me that feel!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Elbow leading the wrist....yessir!

    • @girv101
      @girv101 2 роки тому +1

      Being a puller of 5 footers I guess the same set-up rule / feeling applies? Just hit a few and fell in the high side…which never happens!! What a game 😁!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому

      yes

  • @JM-bt1uy
    @JM-bt1uy Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thank you

  • @therealist1103
    @therealist1103 Місяць тому +1

    This is my favorite practice tip. You've got a sub from me bro!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  Місяць тому

      Appreciate your support! Hope this one helps your game!

  • @robertgaston4230
    @robertgaston4230 2 роки тому +1

    Great instruction,Thanks

  • @topgunbass
    @topgunbass 3 роки тому +1

    Eric this video is killer. It makes so much sense especially the tip on the start of the downswing. I can see how if the wrist gets ahead the over the top swing rears its ugly head. I always thought it was me moving my shoulder across to early. I'm going to check my videos to see if indeed it's my wrist. Thank you for this analysis.

  • @peak905
    @peak905 3 роки тому +1

    Great stuff, Eric

  • @borgyubas1106
    @borgyubas1106 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video👍🏻

  • @chrisstevens2593
    @chrisstevens2593 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the insightful video.
    When and where do you start the trail forearm rotation during the downswing in order to square the club face?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Check this out for more details on that: ua-cam.com/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/v-deo.html
      If that doesn't answer LMK and we can discuss more

  • @sfmgolf
    @sfmgolf 3 роки тому +1

    Great model for us amateur swings! Mr. Hogan to me had the best swing ever!

  • @stevennelson3025
    @stevennelson3025 3 роки тому +1

    thanks, this is excellent!

  • @williamhedley2222
    @williamhedley2222 2 роки тому +1

    Outstanding!

  • @justjames1111
    @justjames1111 2 роки тому +1

    Great video again Eric. I tried this, just focusing on keeping my R/elbow in front of my R/hip throughout. It felt a bit awkward at the start of the round but surprisingly quickly began to feel 'normal'. However, the difference in ball-striking was phenomenal, being both straight and long and feeling so solid. I was making 500yd par fives in two, (Never done that before) and adding at least 2 club lengths to my irons. Then like one of the comments below, for some strange reason I stopped doing it. Need to get back to it, pronto.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому

      Love it! Nice to see immediate gains!

  • @jeffbulcock7575
    @jeffbulcock7575 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic many thanks

  • @shawnn1954
    @shawnn1954 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Eric. Great video. One question: does adduction only occur once I'm in the delivery position? Or does it start from the top? Looking for clarity as a lot of instructors key in on maintaining width for more power, but I'm not sure when to start letting it go.

  • @chadaitken5476
    @chadaitken5476 3 роки тому +1

    Another good visual.
    Especially how low/horizontal the club looks coming into impact.
    It seems passive means almost a lack of a release w/ the wrists. Just a-little forearm rotation to square?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Hey Chad!
      While of course thats overly simplistic thats an OK way to look at it

  • @geneland
    @geneland Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this advice, I have subbed and liked, I am going to work on this and hopefully it will eliminate my slice. I also swing too fast I think. I always have the feeling I have to kill it. Like hit a homer.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  Рік тому

      Hope it serves you well my friend!

  • @martinfries9786
    @martinfries9786 3 роки тому +1

    Eric, I’ve always struggled with this aspect of my swing. I cannot wait to work on this at my next range session. Great video!!!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Thanks, Martin! Hope it helps!

  • @olegawf4933
    @olegawf4933 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and explanation, I noted one feel that might help is that I felt as though I was coming down and through the ball with right palm facing up, didn't actually happen that way but that feel helps.

    • @jawjuh1005
      @jawjuh1005 3 роки тому +1

      Similar for me but I feel the palm facing out due to the wrist bend. It faces out as long as possible. One thing I’ve noticed is if the head stays behind the ball that last second pronation happens naturally.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Yessir

    • @BamaPaul
      @BamaPaul 3 роки тому +1

      Like a karate chop through the ball

  • @micah6615
    @micah6615 3 роки тому +1

    This actual swing saved Matt kuchar's career great video of Eric

  • @georgiamay4045
    @georgiamay4045 3 роки тому +1

    it was good to hear you add "qualifiers" to this advice .. this kind of rotation advice works best for people with long(er) arms. someone like me, with t-rex arms can't use this approach because I would never get the clubhead down to the ball.

  • @peterplaza3133
    @peterplaza3133 3 роки тому +1

    AMAZING!!

  • @FairwayJack
    @FairwayJack 3 роки тому +1

    another gem !!

  • @martinhardman9288
    @martinhardman9288 3 роки тому +1

    Superb!

  • @williamhedley2222
    @williamhedley2222 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant!

  • @aidenmcgorry9867
    @aidenmcgorry9867 2 роки тому +1

    Tried this today for first time but sending the ball to the right all the time

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому +1

      Hey Ainen! More trail wrist extension or stronger grip likely needed without seeing your swing to say for sure

    • @aidenmcgorry9867
      @aidenmcgorry9867 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks..watched your video on fixing shanks and I’m sure I’m not coming in at the right angle on downswing...set up box an hour ago and kept hitting it..will try keeping hands closer to body tomorrow 👍

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому

      Box drill is a really good on to keep things neutral with your club path. No risk there

    • @aidenmcgorry9867
      @aidenmcgorry9867 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the box drill it has helped and your video to fix shanks by swinging to the left has changed my game completely 😀👍...Still a bit of trouble taking the right arm past the right pec though

  • @marcussheldon9220
    @marcussheldon9220 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Eric, great video, just two things, 1) Can you relay learn just by watching videos ? or is it better to have person coaching? next there are talks how important it is to have low hands in transition and through impact. I haven't seen a video of yours explaining your theory. Can you please advice , thanks your a one of best coaches on line .

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Thanks, Marcus!
      1. Online coaching or in person coaching both great. Hiring a good coach and not going at it on your own a good idea!
      2. Lots to talk about in terms of "low hands"....there is a lot of that within the 800 videos we have....maybe more to come.
      All the best

  • @sofiastoll-bisagno1779
    @sofiastoll-bisagno1779 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Eric! That helps
    One question though
    Hogan was big on keeping his elbow tucked in throughout the backswing (literally down and I’m not just pointed down)
    In the modern swing teaching I see a lot less of this and more, for lack of a better term, manipulation of the elbow to get to a good impact position
    What are your thoughts on Hogan keeping that elbow in and tucked (if you agree that’s what he did with most clubs)
    🙏!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  10 місяців тому

      Yeah both can work----Jack had flying elbow and shoulder much more internally rotated.
      Hogan had it external
      both were great...
      What matters most is where it is in transition.....if someone has flying right arm they MUST learn to get it back in front....not easy for most
      thoughts on it here:
      ua-cam.com/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/v-deo.html&pp=ygUoRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybSBpbnRlcm5hbCBleHRlcm5hbA%3D%3D
      ua-cam.com/video/OJppwDGvhmY/v-deo.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHJpZ2h0IGFybS9zaG91bGRlciB0b3Agb2YgYmFja3N3aW5n

  • @bruce3412
    @bruce3412 2 роки тому +1

    great video, so at what point do you add in the right forearm pronation to square the club?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  2 роки тому

      Here ya go ....I go over that in detail here: ua-cam.com/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/v-deo.html

    • @bruce3412
      @bruce3412 2 роки тому +1

      @@CogornoGolf thanks, I definitely will try that on the range

  • @frankcanzanella6753
    @frankcanzanella6753 Місяць тому +1

    I think that the reason I’m uneasy with the transition from the top of the backswing to the beginning of the downswing, is that I’m not securing the external rotation of my right elbow. Learning your ideas will take pressure of my lower back.

  • @stevestrang480
    @stevestrang480 3 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @billhill4929
    @billhill4929 3 роки тому +1

    Eric great vid, please be clear on one thing that I'm unsure of...does the right arm stay glued to the side throughout the entire swing? It looks like Hogan does but then when you explained about the 90 degree stuff the arm was away from the body. Thanks!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +2

      Hey Bill!
      No it does not stay glued.
      There should be some lift (abduction) during backswing (bicep away from ribcage) as well as shoulder flexion

    • @roberthaar
      @roberthaar 3 роки тому

      If you look carefully at Hogan at the top of his back swing he had little if any arm lift (abduction). This took away any aspect of timing reconnecting the upper arm back to his rib cage (adduction)... the magic move... much easier this way for most golfers.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Hey Robert! If there was ZERO lift....the arms would be much too low for most players. Well below shoulder plane. 3D measurements and GEARS shows this clearly there is lots of lift (shoulder flexion)....but you are correct hogan had very little (not none) but very little.

  • @markibaviosa7559
    @markibaviosa7559 3 роки тому +1

    love this video. love external rotation. viktor hovland is another player who does this well.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, Mark! Yes he does....quite well...I love his swing!
      ua-cam.com/video/-Rm-3rbW_Y0/v-deo.html

  • @MatthewHokie
    @MatthewHokie 3 роки тому +1

    You always talk about opposite reactions. When I start with my trail arm externally rotated like that I feel like I have a tendency to go more internal and it's difficult to hold it externally throughout the swing. Do you see any issue with going more internal, to get back to external? Not as much as someone like Wolff, but some. Thoughts?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Matt!
      Good points/questions
      1. I do NOT think setting up more external at setup makes it easier/harder/more likely to go back internal.....I hear ya...but I wouldn't say thats normal.
      2. Perfectly cool to go back internal so long as you get back external coming down....thats the key...transition and downswing
      Backswing only matters so much as it affects or makes easier or harder the downswing pieces
      ua-cam.com/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/OJppwDGvhmY/v-deo.html

  • @globalsupplyindustriesinc.3124
    @globalsupplyindustriesinc.3124 3 роки тому +1

    Intriguing

  • @benlai5752
    @benlai5752 3 роки тому +1

    Do the right arm hv to make internal rotation at some point during the forward swing to release and hit the ball?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Yes...but past impact
      ua-cam.com/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/v-deo.html

    • @benlai5752
      @benlai5752 3 роки тому +1

      I tried many ways to get shaft lean. None worked except this. Thank you Eric.

  • @VirtueSignal9000
    @VirtueSignal9000 3 роки тому +3

    Ben Hogan was the man

  • @jamess9728
    @jamess9728 3 роки тому +1

    Eric, it seems Jim Hardy is saying the opposite for a one planner like Hogan. He wants right elbow to stay up and behind thru impact, not in front. Can you elaborate please.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Hey James!
      Here is some info on that:
      ua-cam.com/video/MwFGvE5-fHk/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/kvMijVAf9FI/v-deo.html

  • @jimaverill1659
    @jimaverill1659 3 роки тому +1

    Great Great Great......thanks

  • @DASH1ful
    @DASH1ful 3 роки тому +1

    i certainly agree that the v should point more up to the shoulder; but that in itself can present problems. often players can then pull the club back with the right hand, causing the elbow to pop out. so, the waggle is key to establishing control with the left hand; but, when a player waggles the club correctly the right arm will stay passive until the the left wrist has fully cocked. this folds the right arm. i do agree that the left side of the right forearm should lead, in the downswing; but, i couldn't disagree more about the idea of sliding the arm across the chest. the chest won't be in its address position at impact, anyway; but when a player slides the right arm across, the clubface will be open. the left hand releases the club by pressing against the left side of the shaft and the right hand has to go with it.

  • @williammadia680
    @williammadia680 Рік тому +1

    How much angel should I maintain between my forearm and upper arm during this move?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  Рік тому

      Here are the details:
      ua-cam.com/video/fDkoZCgSItE/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/1rXgZHGyFBQ/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/ZWOR8CiNWtw/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/Kcr0qREfUzg/v-deo.html

  • @mangelarsson7774
    @mangelarsson7774 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting. But what about your left elbow at setup, where does it point? I struggle to see more precisely. Thanks!!!

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      More on that coming up!
      It depends on your grip...

    • @mangelarsson7774
      @mangelarsson7774 3 роки тому +1

      @@CogornoGolf aha, of course it does. Thanks!!

  • @craigwhite8416
    @craigwhite8416 3 роки тому +1

    So. This trail arm movement is also responsible for shallowing the shaft as well?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Its PART of it.
      External rotation of trail arm/shoulder and internal rotation of lead arm/shoulder will shallow shaft.

  • @chachifeere
    @chachifeere 3 роки тому +1

    what works for me really well is to have the right elbow "tucked in " and try and feel like you have the elbow that way the whole swing "inwards" not outwards
    if the makes any sense

  • @robertprevost8914
    @robertprevost8914 3 роки тому +1

    What is the origin of the phrase "Magic Move"? The first time I remember seeing this exact move described as the "magic move" was in Harvey Penick's Little Red Book. Did Hogan use the term?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Hey Robert!
      Haha...I'm not sure! I jut know it' a term on youtube that tends to get people to watch so we throw it in from time to time :)

  • @jeffreyanwar6272
    @jeffreyanwar6272 3 роки тому +1

    good vid

  • @donwist
    @donwist Рік тому +1

    Do you believe Hogan was pulling the club to start the downswing or simply a turn initiated by the lower body ?

  • @ChildoftheMostHigh1
    @ChildoftheMostHigh1 Рік тому +1

    Dude!
    Dude.. 👍😎💪

  • @als9718
    @als9718 3 роки тому +1

    Great natural instincts.

  • @The_Norse_Hunk
    @The_Norse_Hunk 3 роки тому +1

    Look at Mr. Hogan's weight shift too. Incredible.

  • @roberthaar
    @roberthaar 3 роки тому +1

    Much easier to master this move if you have your right arm glued to your chest at the top of the backswing. A compact swing allows this to happen with more consistency without much or any arm lift at the top of the backswing.

  • @jasonpitts8395
    @jasonpitts8395 3 роки тому +2

    Ben Hogan was the best. Anyone else notice how nice those guys dressed to play golf back then?

  • @jgb6802
    @jgb6802 3 роки тому +1

    I am sh***ing 'em when I try to pitch the right elbow.
    Any suggestions?

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Would need to see on video....too many variables unfortunately

  • @steveplyler8077
    @steveplyler8077 3 роки тому +1

    Just watched you with Mike Malaska using Mike's Red demo club - seems to me or I am a bit confused as he makes it a point to demo the right wrist release as like throwing ball at impact and in this video different but probably me trying to see something not there - hope you see what I mean as Mike says to you, wrist rotation a taboo, seems unclear especially when watching your demo. Thanks great job as usual.

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the feedback Steve!
      Here should be more to clear things up:
      ua-cam.com/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/8Ieul7YJK44/v-deo.html

  • @johnscott971
    @johnscott971 3 роки тому +1

    Have to try that elbow accross the chest

  • @mrsmartypants_1
    @mrsmartypants_1 2 роки тому +1

    Interestingly Trevino’s very different looking swing compared to Hogan’s naturally does this trailing elbow and wrist position almost effortlessly. Trevino’s swing is also one of the few swings Hogan respected and commented on positively.

  • @tommyruff1286
    @tommyruff1286 Рік тому

    Ben Hogan’s trail arm in his swing produced low flight piercing shots .

    • @CogornoGolf
      @CogornoGolf  Рік тому

      👊Thank you for watching, Tommy!