really hoping Takahashi follows through on making a more mature rated game in future, moments like seeing the guy get rejected by the core crystal in chapter 2 or rex being stabbed through the heart are limited by not having blood
I'd always assumed Shulk not bleeding was due to Dickson using some kind of special bullet to awaken Zanza but that's just my brain filling in the blanks, it could've been pretty impactful to see Shulk bleed but it being left out kind of adds to the shock value in a weird way.
Apparently an Earlier Version was Even More Bloody, where at the point when Shulk is lying on the Ground infront of everyone and starts Convulsing as Zanza reawakens he would've been lying in a Pool of his own Blood... Doesn't sound particularly necessary, but Damn would it have made that whole scene look 1000% more Painful.
For that to happen, Monolith (and/or Nintendo) will have to bite the bullet and make change it's auidence for XC3 to adults. That means getting the game to be rated M by the ESRB in America, which in Australia would be MA15+/R18+ by the ACB.
XC2's lack of character blood makes even less sense when you find the cave in Tantal where there's a ton of bones from animals along with blow covering the snow in the cave. it's proper red blood, and if I remember right, there's even a half-eaten animal in the cave as well. Also in the cutscene where Rex gets stabbed if you listen closely when Jin flicks his sword, you hear liquid hitting the ground, implying there should be blood on his sword that he is slinging off.
I remember a side quest in X where this one group got caught by the enemies and skinned alive because the enemies realized they are not edible. All told by a woman who got away and has trauma afterwards. Literally talking about the screams she can never forget. And they got away with all this because it was not directly shown. Also there is a skeleton of a Nopon in this game.
It reminds me of the secondary mission of the water purification plant, I remember that the first time I played the game I made the bad choice of letting the only survivor take a bath. For your group to later see the security tape, discovering that the creatures that left the cocoons / eggs on the plant also infected the mimeosomes of the employees of the place, and that they react to the water causing the egg growth process to be accelerate. I think you know what happened to the girl who took the bath.
I noticed in the Rex stabbing scene they also do the same "looking at the hands" thing they did with Shulk, so I'm guessing the storyboards for those scenes also would have also had blood on the hands?
You know the scene from xenoblade 2 when somebody fails to resonate with a core crystal. Imagine that but instead of Rex saying it’s bloody, it’s actually a tsunami of blood.
I still remember the crazy blood in the woglinde in xenosaga episode 1 after the gnosis attack, that crazy dark purple blood and the dead bodies everywhere freaked me out as a kid
Shulk not having blood there made him feel more divine in a way. Also, I feel like the lack of blood in Xenoblade 2 works for the tone it's going for. Ether could work as a censorship for strong blows. Also, I think they're Sword fragments.
Ooo, do you think Shulk bleeds ether ? I mean, they did state that his body died and Zanza has been his power source ever since, so maybe it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to say that Shulk's body acts as a pseudo-Bionis and bleeds ether. I kind of like this actually.
@Nate Medley If he had no blood at all, wouldn't he look pretty different ? I mean he is pale, but that's not really drastic enough to say he has no blood. He'd legit look like a corpse, which, even though on some level he is, he doesn't really look like it. Sharla would've definitely commented on it if he looked that out of the ordinary. Also he was a very young kid when he died, and he grew up. I'm pretty sure that requires some kind of active bodily fluid to achieve... So it's likely his heart is still pumping something. I think it could be pure ether, like the Bionis' blood, instead of human blood. I haven't seen Jojo so I'm not really sure how they make the "no-blood" thing work.
The ratings needs to evolve. There should be a way for developers to have a censor toggle, that's on by default, and the games would have two ratings the one without censor, the one with, with a tiny text saying somewhere you can switch between the two. And make it that on the game system, if parental control is on, you cannot decensor games ! Yes that's more work from the devs, from the software engineers working on console software and changing the rating system isn't easy, but since then, the media has evolved a lot and it's now only preventing devs from using more mature themes and visuals because they could lose sales.
That's actually a brilliant idea, I like it ! However it would be automatically obtain the highest rating, probably, because children could still operate the toggle on their own. It would be just like, a way for people who don't want to see blood to have that option.
That bit about the lack of blood being more impactful reminds me of my particular favorite "bloodless gore" scene, from LoZ: Twilight Princess... Zant's death is probably the most brutal death in a Nintendo game to date... Midna, now in possession of the previously stolen Fused Shadow pieces, is enraged by Zant talking smack about something, and in that moment, she impales him with 3 huge hair-tendrils, and while he's writhing in pain, she then f-ing pops Zant like a balloon, leaving nothing behind... Completely Annihilated. look it up, it's rad...
Gannon's death is more so in my opinion. Later in the series (skyward sword) the master sword is shown to be able to absorb evil (demise) so in twilight princess it's very possible that the sword is absorbing the blood straight out of him in an attempt to get at his soul.
You mentioned offhand about the "blood" of the Faced Mechon, which also shows up in a capacity in 2 even though it's not bleeding. I'm referring to the entire screen glowing red almost every time a Flesh Eater reveals their power. Most notably Chapters 5 and 7, along with New Game+.
In 3 we have CHAPTER 6 SPOILERS Noah has dried blood on his knuckles after punching iron prison cell bars in a vain escape attempt. It’s visible for the next like 2 hours’ worth of cutscenes. There’s also Cammuravi’s eye, but bizarrely, his blood appears more black than red, probably for censorship reasons because there’s no reason an Agnian or a Leftherian/Aegis hybrid would have completely different blood to a Kevesi or a Homs.
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the scene in Xenoblade 1 where the party first reaches the bottom of the Ether Mine. In the original, there are blood splatters all over the floor and Sharla asks whose blood is it, but in DE the blood is turned black and the transparency values on the blood is almost at 100%, making it hard to see it on the ground in the brief moment it's on-screen. Also, there's a few times in 2 and Torna where you can see the corpses of monsters that have been partially eaten, and you can see bones protruding from them, but no blood. Likely either due to whatever eating them having drank the blood already or the blood dried out on its own over time.
Luxin with another banger. Listening to your rambles about xenoblade is always great, especially while I’m working and I just wanna think about xenoblade lol
I never noticed how a nosebleed can completely pass through rating systems. A good example would be in the Loud House, where it's also used for comedic effect, even though it's an otherwise worrying amount of blood loss.
The lack of blood in the Vandham scene actually makes sense - the wound would be similar to one made by a spear, lance or arrow given the shape of that end of the weapon, and wounds created by such things don't bleed very much or at all until the thing that caused it is removed - it is physically blocking the flow of blood out of the body, and unlike wounds made with somthing like a sword, the wound doesn't split or flex, so there isn't much room for the blood to flow around the weapon while it is still there.
I noticed the blood on Zeke's jacket without needing to slow it down at all. I think I first noticed it on my second or third time seeing the cutscene. I agree with the Gormotti one being poorly implemented though. And when Shulk is shot. Blood on his hand really should have been added in the DE. It's not any more graphic or mature than Metal Face's bloody claws.
I kind of just figured the Gormotti was just his blood being immediately turned into ether, because when organisms die, or at least when titans and blades are involved, they disintegrate and return to the ether flow. I just took it as the core crystal incinerating his blood into ether.
you're forgetting that FF7 has been ported to everything like 5 times over without censoring the blood and keeping it's T rating, so that's likely not the case with Xenogears. (also in 7Remake they actually changed those bloodier moments to be a mysterious miasma to keep the T rating)
Xenogears is a lot worse though. They'res only like one scene in FFVII where there's blood and even then it's not that bad, it's all part of the background and there's no blood at the actual source of the carnage. Also Sephiroth's final death cutscene but even that's not too bad the blood just sorta appears. In contrast, Xenogears not only has TONS of blood but also explicit nudity (no privates explicitly shown outside of the buttocks, but they're still nude) and drug use. Also REALLY dark scenes like humans being graphicly being turned into food for monsters and such. I was shocked when I learned Xenogears was rated T at release. I swore it was M for the longest time. How did they get away with it? I'm pretty sure Xenosaga at least was rated low m/high T in Japan, CERO C, (CERO A = E and E10+, CERO B = Low to Mid T, CERO C = High T to Low M, CERO D: Hard M, CERO Z: CURSED DO NOT PLAY 21+ PLUS ONLY) but the heavily censored all three games in their English releases in order to get a T rating and not an M. But doesn't Kos Mos have a literal vagina laser? That alone could probably warrent an M rating lol.
Another thing in Xenoblade 1. When sorean dies and melia goes to hold him the voice actress implies that she is crying but the character just has the default expression for most of the scene. It looks so goofy, and it's the same in Definitive edition too. I dont know if anyone else has noticed it but it has always stuck out so much to me that it just breaks any immersion I had.
Honestly, i think in the Xenoblade games, it'd make perfect sense for everyone or many races to have Ether flowing in their veins. Though the Gormotti dude probably got his blood atomized, since it seemed to come out very unlike Tora's nosebleed, which I could swear was a spurt. And Nopon are already noted in XC2 to be pretty distant to humans and other races, so maybe they evolved blood?
In XB2 there's that weird scene when the party fights Malos on the way to rescuing Pyra. Zeke attacks Malos and gets his sword desintegrated, which then Mia somehow repairs with her CELLULAR CONTROL-based healing ability. Me thinks that Zeke was supposed to lose an arm in that scene, or at least a finger or two, but they decided it would be too violent. So they changed it.
one additional instance of lack of blood that feels kind of stupid is in xb 2 in jins flashback where he attacks indolian soldiers in a rage and it cuts to the aftermath and the scene is framed in a way that feels like he should be covered in blood but he is just completely clean
This video kind of makes me wonder if one of the reasons Xenosaga wasn't greenlit for a remaster was because of the censorship issues they had for each region. I also think that Xenosaga would easily get an M rating by todays standards, and I'm actually surprised that episode 1 wasn't slapped with an M rating with the Ma Belle Peche scene. Anyway it was kind of a shame that Episode 3 had blood removed from some of the scenes heck the one at the end of Disc 1 is probably the most important scene in the trilogy, but it looks kind of goofy without the blood.
Japanese mimeosomes, Blue-bloods?? Heeeeeeeeeeeey! It's like they hit an accidentally awesome idea. I don't know what language it originated in (English? Swedish? Something else?) but there are idioms where 'blue-blooded people' is used to denote nobility as a class. That would add a dimension or two to the story, wouldn't it?
Xenoblade 1 and 2 use light blue quote unquote "blood" in some scenes to get away with showing blood. The in-universe reason is supposedly that because everyone is made of ether, they can also bleed blue...? It doesn't make sense, but it's whatever.
You know, the “Shulk not having blood on his hand” might have a technical constraint. While yes a lot of Shulks arm equipment leaves just a bear palm, there are quite a few armor pieces that cover his palm, so you would probably need to model that moment for each armor set of Shulk’s, which wouldn’t be worth it for how long that shot would be seen. Another alternative could be just splerting up some blood into the air, but that would also take a lot of work, especially back on the Wii and with most of DE’s dev time going into FC, adding a very complex animation of a fluid into the base game might have eaten up to much time to be worth it
isn't that ether, though? (on the gormoti dude that failed the resonance, I mean... Did he really die?! O_O I thought you just faint if you're incompatible with core crystals/blades)
i doubt that there will be a malos connection to BLADE, but if there is they can easily find a way to fit it in based on what he's doing Trying to take over humanity through BLADE to become something that is beyond Logos? that's building a legacy Is he the reason why the world ended? Humanity is moving beyond the Logos, by building a legacy after the destruction of earth it should work, just so long as they don't go too literal with whatever they do
Always found this topic interesting while playing, how inconsistent the use of blood is and how there should be times it was to be there, but it just isn't, especially in 2 as you showed. Though I'm sure this is a problem with age ratings and partly Nintendo, maybe in japan even a little blood would push the rating further or something.
(BANG!) Ahhhhh he's or she's bleeding! Person: huh? Where? ITS ALL OVER THE GROUND! Person: I don't see anything! Stop playing around! THIS IS SERIOUS! Person: Don't blame me, blame the devs who censored it. The 2 and the 1 bleeding in sync: Damn Devs....
As always with Xenoblade X, the real "gems" are buried in sidequests. X gets away with some really messed up things (finding people maimed and dismembered) by using "not actually human" to screen the gorier moments.
Seeing the comment i realize nonebofy remembers Gorth or how is called (the dad of Lora) and he gets cut in both arms by Jin and nothing of blood is shown (i know that showing no arms is a big no-no, but at least show some blood on the sword)
@@siposmarton8324 I’m assuming they meant 7 but I’d still have no idea what they’re talking about. I can’t remember if the 6th member is riki or Melia which still wouldn’t make sense.
Spoiler's for Xenosaga 3: Upon heading back to Durandal, there a bunch of dead realarians and 100 series but the entire area removed all blood stains and in two cutscenes one were Yuriev's troops are gunning down realarians and two Chaos and KOS-MOS is helping Jr. and the others evacuate out of Durandal. Oh and also Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (base game) does have blood, (not animated blood) but it's only in a hidden area were there's a bunch of dead carcasses.
Doubt they would want an M-rated Xenoblade game... it's just not great for sales and could potentially drive off some of the target audience. I do hope they do better with blood than Xenoblade 2 though... Xenoblade 3 doesn't need to have Persona 3-levels of blood and disturbing imagery ( P3 is rated M ), but it would beneficiate from being less... y'know, clean of it than its predecessor.
The way the overlords censor blood is absolutely bizarre and alien (you could even say it's xeno), like I don't the quantity or frequency of blood is at all relevant to age ratings. It would make so much more sense to look at the context of the blood. Like spilt blood I have much less of a reaction to than an uncovered bleeding wound or especially bloody gore and dismemberment. Like I'd say *E* should only be able to have occasional spilt, very infrequent bleeding (no squirting) wounds that are not covered by clothing/etc and no dismemberment of organic characters. *E10* should mostly have free reign with spilt, occasional bleeding (no squirting) wounds that are not obscured and no bloody dismemberment. *T* should be able to have as much spilt and bleeding wounds as they want (uncovered or not) and infrequent unobscured squirting wounds and bloody dismemberment/gore. Then *M* no limits except the ones you set on yourself.
Damn can't watch because I still need to play gears and saga. You should have timestamps for the discussion of each of them so people can watch the ones they've played without getting spoiled on ones they haven't.
I don't see why they need to censor the blood anyways because I really don't feel like the amount of blood that would be present in the games would be enough to warrant an M rating. Of course, this could be the result of me playing games and watching anime that have a ton of blood so, to me, a moderate amount of blood seems acceptable for a T rating. I'm not an ESRB rater though, so what do I know?
I headcannon the reason Shulk doesn't bleed when he got shot is because Dickson used some magic bullet to pull Zanza out. It's still dumb as balls he Should be bleeding.
I mean, ether bullets are still bullets. Shulk should be bleeding *something* anyway, as the storyboard clearly shows. But then again that'd mean they have to add an additional texture modification for every single arm model Shulk has and it's A LOT of work for 2 seconds of accuracy.
@@aidenlilley1319 I think it canonically was an ether bullet though, not sure where heard that, but in gameplay if you hack in to play as Dickson that's what he has. Interesting headcanon though !
Damnit, every time someone shows a video of xenoblade x, I get an itch to play it again. then I remember it's on the Wii U. Here's hoping for a X remaster. Also, I've said it before but censorship is shit
I wish that Takahashi would get enough money and the go-ahead from the companies involved to put out M-rated versions of his Xeno games (aside from Xenogears), so that we can finally see all the realistic blood that the violent cutscenes should have had. Those cutscenes where there should be visible blood but none is shown makes me feel like the game developers are insulting my intelligence and/or breaking my suspension of disbelief in the game's world as a grounded and realistic (within limits) world. Would Xenoblade 2 really have sold that much less if it were M-rated though? How many gamers actually follow ESRB/CERO ratings when it comes to who actually gets to play M-rated games?
Lack of blood isn't what separate good game that Bad game. For exemple XC2 isn't less good than 1 (even if 1 isn't that gore he did have blood 3 time). But if the blood appear rarelly that impact scene. And just for the facia they had a loot name blood face or something like this.
Blood coming out of a normal kid is far more disturbing to me than out of a grown-up or almost a grown-up. I don't really want to see any blood in Rex scene.
Besides, medically, there would be some blood but not a lot, trickling from the wounds if one gets stabbed whilst weapons remained not taken out. This is also why one should not take out the knife if they get stabbed, preventing from hemorrhagic shock.
really hoping Takahashi follows through on making a more mature rated game in future, moments like seeing the guy get rejected by the core crystal in chapter 2 or rex being stabbed through the heart are limited by not having blood
I thought that those little things in rexes scene was blood
we’ll be waiting for a “Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Rated M Edition” shitpost with blood now.
shhh!!! spoilers that is his April Fools video.
If anyone figures out how to mod this game that would actually be kinda cool lol
I'd always assumed Shulk not bleeding was due to Dickson using some kind of special bullet to awaken Zanza but that's just my brain filling in the blanks, it could've been pretty impactful to see Shulk bleed but it being left out kind of adds to the shock value in a weird way.
If you control him you can see his only attack art is and ether based bullet
Shulk’s hand is angled just right that I think there could be some blood but it’s hidden.
Apparently an Earlier Version was Even More Bloody, where at the point when Shulk is lying on the Ground infront of everyone and starts Convulsing as Zanza reawakens he would've been lying in a Pool of his own Blood...
Doesn't sound particularly necessary, but Damn would it have made that whole scene look 1000% more Painful.
@@KARLOSPCgame Bullets are often a catalyst for ether.
Watch Xenoblade 3 take place in 2’s world but there’s actual blood this time
They suddenly evolved blood
For that to happen, Monolith (and/or Nintendo) will have to bite the bullet and make change it's auidence for XC3 to adults. That means getting the game to be rated M by the ESRB in America, which in Australia would be MA15+/R18+ by the ACB.
…I mean, you weren’t wrong
13:07 "Still hurt?"
Lin, I want you to take a good long look at my left arm and ask me that again.
XC2's lack of character blood makes even less sense when you find the cave in Tantal where there's a ton of bones from animals along with blow covering the snow in the cave. it's proper red blood, and if I remember right, there's even a half-eaten animal in the cave as well. Also in the cutscene where Rex gets stabbed if you listen closely when Jin flicks his sword, you hear liquid hitting the ground, implying there should be blood on his sword that he is slinging off.
I remember a side quest in X where this one group got caught by the enemies and skinned alive because the enemies realized they are not edible. All told by a woman who got away and has trauma afterwards. Literally talking about the screams she can never forget.
And they got away with all this because it was not directly shown.
Also there is a skeleton of a Nopon in this game.
Predator and Prey is such a good sidequest
Where we can find this quest ?
I don't find it.
@@famillesabot5719 I think it's in Sylvalum. Somewhere west after the lake.
It reminds me of the secondary mission of the water purification plant, I remember that the first time I played the game I made the bad choice of letting the only survivor take a bath.
For your group to later see the security tape, discovering that the creatures that left the cocoons / eggs on the plant also infected the mimeosomes of the employees of the place, and that they react to the water causing the egg growth process to be accelerate.
I think you know what happened to the girl who took the bath.
@@ninten07 Ah yes. I do remember. This quest was amazing as well.
I noticed in the Rex stabbing scene they also do the same "looking at the hands" thing they did with Shulk, so I'm guessing the storyboards for those scenes also would have also had blood on the hands?
You know the scene from xenoblade 2 when somebody fails to resonate with a core crystal. Imagine that but instead of Rex saying it’s bloody, it’s actually a tsunami of blood.
I still remember the crazy blood in the woglinde in xenosaga episode 1 after the gnosis attack, that crazy dark purple blood and the dead bodies everywhere freaked me out as a kid
Shulk not having blood there made him feel more divine in a way.
Also, I feel like the lack of blood in Xenoblade 2 works for the tone it's going for. Ether could work as a censorship for strong blows.
Also, I think they're Sword fragments.
Ooo, do you think Shulk bleeds ether ? I mean, they did state that his body died and Zanza has been his power source ever since, so maybe it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to say that Shulk's body acts as a pseudo-Bionis and bleeds ether. I kind of like this actually.
@Nate Medley If he had no blood at all, wouldn't he look pretty different ? I mean he is pale, but that's not really drastic enough to say he has no blood. He'd legit look like a corpse, which, even though on some level he is, he doesn't really look like it. Sharla would've definitely commented on it if he looked that out of the ordinary.
Also he was a very young kid when he died, and he grew up. I'm pretty sure that requires some kind of active bodily fluid to achieve... So it's likely his heart is still pumping something. I think it could be pure ether, like the Bionis' blood, instead of human blood.
I haven't seen Jojo so I'm not really sure how they make the "no-blood" thing work.
The ratings needs to evolve. There should be a way for developers to have a censor toggle, that's on by default, and the games would have two ratings the one without censor, the one with, with a tiny text saying somewhere you can switch between the two. And make it that on the game system, if parental control is on, you cannot decensor games !
Yes that's more work from the devs, from the software engineers working on console software and changing the rating system isn't easy, but since then, the media has evolved a lot and it's now only preventing devs from using more mature themes and visuals because they could lose sales.
That's actually a brilliant idea, I like it ! However it would be automatically obtain the highest rating, probably, because children could still operate the toggle on their own. It would be just like, a way for people who don't want to see blood to have that option.
That bit about the lack of blood being more impactful reminds me of my particular favorite "bloodless gore" scene, from LoZ: Twilight Princess...
Zant's death is probably the most brutal death in a Nintendo game to date...
Midna, now in possession of the previously stolen Fused Shadow pieces, is enraged by Zant talking smack about something, and in that moment, she impales him with 3 huge hair-tendrils, and while he's writhing in pain, she then f-ing pops Zant like a balloon, leaving nothing behind... Completely Annihilated.
look it up, it's rad...
Ohhh good exemple ! Yeah it's absolutely brutal ! But then again I think TP is the most brutal Zelda game to date so-
Gannon's death is more so in my opinion.
Later in the series (skyward sword) the master sword is shown to be able to absorb evil (demise) so in twilight princess it's very possible that the sword is absorbing the blood straight out of him in an attempt to get at his soul.
Blood is used for impact in these games, but I have to say, Pyra getting gut punched by Malos is one of the hardest hitting moments in the series
You mentioned offhand about the "blood" of the Faced Mechon, which also shows up in a capacity in 2 even though it's not bleeding. I'm referring to the entire screen glowing red almost every time a Flesh Eater reveals their power. Most notably Chapters 5 and 7, along with New Game+.
In 3 we have CHAPTER 6 SPOILERS
Noah has dried blood on his knuckles after punching iron prison cell bars in a vain escape attempt. It’s visible for the next like 2 hours’ worth of cutscenes.
There’s also Cammuravi’s eye, but bizarrely, his blood appears more black than red, probably for censorship reasons because there’s no reason an Agnian or a Leftherian/Aegis hybrid would have completely different blood to a Kevesi or a Homs.
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the scene in Xenoblade 1 where the party first reaches the bottom of the Ether Mine. In the original, there are blood splatters all over the floor and Sharla asks whose blood is it, but in DE the blood is turned black and the transparency values on the blood is almost at 100%, making it hard to see it on the ground in the brief moment it's on-screen.
Also, there's a few times in 2 and Torna where you can see the corpses of monsters that have been partially eaten, and you can see bones protruding from them, but no blood. Likely either due to whatever eating them having drank the blood already or the blood dried out on its own over time.
The corpses are also a thing in X, but I think it’s a little more graphic than 2
Yeah I was surprised he didn't bring up the ether mine scene.
You should play Astral Chain - not for the plot, but the potential it had.
The gameplay itself is awesome though.
He did
@@keeysOST awesome, maybe luxin could do a video on its plot o.o
Luxin with another banger. Listening to your rambles about xenoblade is always great, especially while I’m working and I just wanna think about xenoblade lol
I never noticed how a nosebleed can completely pass through rating systems. A good example would be in the Loud House, where it's also used for comedic effect, even though it's an otherwise worrying amount of blood loss.
18:35 im sure the sword is supposed to have blood because Jin moves the sword to get rid of excess of it with sound of the blood hitting the floor
The lack of blood in the Vandham scene actually makes sense - the wound would be similar to one made by a spear, lance or arrow given the shape of that end of the weapon, and wounds created by such things don't bleed very much or at all until the thing that caused it is removed - it is physically blocking the flow of blood out of the body, and unlike wounds made with somthing like a sword, the wound doesn't split or flex, so there isn't much room for the blood to flow around the weapon while it is still there.
I noticed the blood on Zeke's jacket without needing to slow it down at all. I think I first noticed it on my second or third time seeing the cutscene. I agree with the Gormotti one being poorly implemented though. And when Shulk is shot. Blood on his hand really should have been added in the DE. It's not any more graphic or mature than Metal Face's bloody claws.
I have never noticed Zeke bleeding ever, and I watched that scene a bunch of times ! Would probably have never known if not for this video.
I kind of just figured the Gormotti was just his blood being immediately turned into ether, because when organisms die, or at least when titans and blades are involved, they disintegrate and return to the ether flow. I just took it as the core crystal incinerating his blood into ether.
In the lower level of tantal, there is some blood on the snow. Its near that cave with a unique monster. His name was like Muscley Damian.
you're forgetting that FF7 has been ported to everything like 5 times over without censoring the blood and keeping it's T rating, so that's likely not the case with Xenogears. (also in 7Remake they actually changed those bloodier moments to be a mysterious miasma to keep the T rating)
Xenogears is a lot worse though. They'res only like one scene in FFVII where there's blood and even then it's not that bad, it's all part of the background and there's no blood at the actual source of the carnage. Also Sephiroth's final death cutscene but even that's not too bad the blood just sorta appears. In contrast, Xenogears not only has TONS of blood but also explicit nudity (no privates explicitly shown outside of the buttocks, but they're still nude) and drug use. Also REALLY dark scenes like humans being graphicly being turned into food for monsters and such. I was shocked when I learned Xenogears was rated T at release. I swore it was M for the longest time. How did they get away with it? I'm pretty sure Xenosaga at least was rated low m/high T in Japan, CERO C, (CERO A = E and E10+, CERO B = Low to Mid T, CERO C = High T to Low M, CERO D: Hard M, CERO Z: CURSED DO NOT PLAY 21+ PLUS ONLY) but the heavily censored all three games in their English releases in order to get a T rating and not an M. But doesn't Kos Mos have a literal vagina laser? That alone could probably warrent an M rating lol.
@@krimsonkatt Apparently, Xenogears DID get a D rating (the Japanese equivalent of the ESRB M rating).
16:54 I never noticed that Zeke bleed in that cutscene.
Only 40 seconds in and I already have to check out. I really need to just buckle down and play Xenosaga
I’m watching Enel’s play through of Xenosaga one right now and I’ve been enjoying it so far
I actually had to skip most of the vid cause I still wanted to hear about the games I do know of.
Another thing in Xenoblade 1. When sorean dies and melia goes to hold him the voice actress implies that she is crying but the character just has the default expression for most of the scene. It looks so goofy, and it's the same in Definitive edition too. I dont know if anyone else has noticed it but it has always stuck out so much to me that it just breaks any immersion I had.
XENOGEARS have lots of blood
Did human have anoth blood for get this kind of image.
I don't know but that make xg way more dark that other games.
Xenoblood sounds like it could be the next xeno series after Xenoblade is done.
Honestly, i think in the Xenoblade games, it'd make perfect sense for everyone or many races to have Ether flowing in their veins.
Though the Gormotti dude probably got his blood atomized, since it seemed to come out very unlike Tora's nosebleed, which I could swear was a spurt.
And Nopon are already noted in XC2 to be pretty distant to humans and other races, so maybe they evolved blood?
In XB2 there's that weird scene when the party fights Malos on the way to rescuing Pyra.
Zeke attacks Malos and gets his sword desintegrated, which then Mia somehow repairs with her CELLULAR CONTROL-based healing ability.
Me thinks that Zeke was supposed to lose an arm in that scene, or at least a finger or two, but they decided it would be too violent. So they changed it.
The description has me rolling
one additional instance of lack of blood that feels kind of stupid is in xb 2 in jins flashback where he attacks indolian soldiers in a rage and it cuts to the aftermath and the scene is framed in a way that feels like he should be covered in blood but he is just completely clean
MonolithSoft please one morsel pls
Happy Halloween Luxin :)
Part of me wonders if Monolith feared the presence of blood and the fairly strong language used would push it over the line to an M-rated game.
This video kind of makes me wonder if one of the reasons Xenosaga wasn't greenlit for a remaster was because of the censorship issues they had for each region. I also think that Xenosaga would easily get an M rating by todays standards, and I'm actually surprised that episode 1 wasn't slapped with an M rating with the Ma Belle Peche scene.
Anyway it was kind of a shame that Episode 3 had blood removed from some of the scenes heck the one at the end of Disc 1 is probably the most important scene in the trilogy, but it looks kind of goofy without the blood.
Japanese mimeosomes, Blue-bloods?? Heeeeeeeeeeeey! It's like they hit an accidentally awesome idea. I don't know what language it originated in (English? Swedish? Something else?) but there are idioms where 'blue-blooded people' is used to denote nobility as a class. That would add a dimension or two to the story, wouldn't it?
Xenoblade 1 and 2 use light blue quote unquote "blood" in some scenes to get away with showing blood. The in-universe reason is supposedly that because everyone is made of ether, they can also bleed blue...? It doesn't make sense, but it's whatever.
You know, the “Shulk not having blood on his hand” might have a technical constraint. While yes a lot of Shulks arm equipment leaves just a bear palm, there are quite a few armor pieces that cover his palm, so you would probably need to model that moment for each armor set of Shulk’s, which wouldn’t be worth it for how long that shot would be seen.
Another alternative could be just splerting up some blood into the air, but that would also take a lot of work, especially back on the Wii and with most of DE’s dev time going into FC, adding a very complex animation of a fluid into the base game might have eaten up to much time to be worth it
Now when's the XenoCrip video?
(aka "XenoCrypt: analyzing the tombs of the Xeno series")
isn't that ether, though? (on the gormoti dude that failed the resonance, I mean... Did he really die?! O_O I thought you just faint if you're incompatible with core crystals/blades)
i doubt that there will be a malos connection to BLADE, but if there is they can easily find a way to fit it in based on what he's doing
Trying to take over humanity through BLADE to become something that is beyond Logos? that's building a legacy
Is he the reason why the world ended? Humanity is moving beyond the Logos, by building a legacy after the destruction of earth
it should work, just so long as they don't go too literal with whatever they do
Always found this topic interesting while playing, how inconsistent the use of blood is and how there should be times it was to be there, but it just isn't, especially in 2 as you showed. Though I'm sure this is a problem with age ratings and partly Nintendo, maybe in japan even a little blood would push the rating further or something.
(BANG!)
Ahhhhh he's or she's bleeding!
Person: huh? Where?
ITS ALL OVER THE GROUND!
Person: I don't see anything!
Stop playing around! THIS IS SERIOUS!
Person: Don't blame me, blame the devs who censored it.
The 2 and the 1 bleeding in sync: Damn Devs....
I love black blood
This is my favorite comment
@@tendo3541 ngl I phrased this kinda badly and I only realised that now
As always with Xenoblade X, the real "gems" are buried in sidequests. X gets away with some really messed up things (finding people maimed and dismembered) by using "not actually human" to screen the gorier moments.
Seeing the comment i realize nonebofy remembers Gorth or how is called (the dad of Lora) and he gets cut in both arms by Jin and nothing of blood is shown (i know that showing no arms is a big no-no, but at least show some blood on the sword)
Plot twist. The Black knight from the cliffhanger is actually a version of Malos dundunduuuun
Just me or would it be epic if we got to fight as vandham when he stabs himself kinda like what "6" dose later in xenoblade 1
I'm sorry, but who is "6"? I'm genuinely confused because I never heard someone in xenoblade 1 being refered to as 6.
@@siposmarton8324 I’m assuming they meant 7 but I’d still have no idea what they’re talking about. I can’t remember if the 6th member is riki or Melia which still wouldn’t make sense.
My bad I made a mistake
It refers it the final party member that joins
Wait hold on, I know you're taking about Seven but what exactly are you referring to ?
Spoiler's for Xenosaga 3: Upon heading back to Durandal, there a bunch of dead realarians and 100 series but the entire area removed all blood stains and in two cutscenes one were Yuriev's troops are gunning down realarians and two Chaos and KOS-MOS is helping Jr. and the others evacuate out of Durandal.
Oh and also Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (base game) does have blood, (not animated blood) but it's only in a hidden area were there's a bunch of dead carcasses.
No Xenoblade 3 is getting to you huh
Xenosaga was done dirty without the blood, especially in X3.
I think the lack of blood when shulk is shot only adds to the creepiness, especially in definitive editions
I wish you’d put time stamps for each Xenoblade game being discussed
If you (or anyone else) still want the timestamps.
8:28 Xenoblade 1
10:57 Xenoblade X
15:02 Xenoblade 2
@@dialga4688 thanks 👍🏼
I mean they probably had minimal blood to keep a T rating, maybe Xenoblade 3 might be M rated.
I hope not. Then my mom wouldn't let me play. Though she did let me play NieR Automata so who knows?
Doubt they would want an M-rated Xenoblade game... it's just not great for sales and could potentially drive off some of the target audience. I do hope they do better with blood than Xenoblade 2 though...
Xenoblade 3 doesn't need to have Persona 3-levels of blood and disturbing imagery ( P3 is rated M ), but it would beneficiate from being less... y'know, clean of it than its predecessor.
Basically localization fails whenever it tries to outdo what Japan got. Poor Xenosaga.
The way the overlords censor blood is absolutely bizarre and alien (you could even say it's xeno), like I don't the quantity or frequency of blood is at all relevant to age ratings. It would make so much more sense to look at the context of the blood.
Like spilt blood I have much less of a reaction to than an uncovered bleeding wound or especially bloody gore and dismemberment.
Like I'd say *E* should only be able to have occasional spilt, very infrequent bleeding (no squirting) wounds that are not covered by clothing/etc and no dismemberment of organic characters.
*E10* should mostly have free reign with spilt, occasional bleeding (no squirting) wounds that are not obscured and no bloody dismemberment.
*T* should be able to have as much spilt and bleeding wounds as they want (uncovered or not) and infrequent unobscured squirting wounds and bloody dismemberment/gore.
Then *M* no limits except the ones you set on yourself.
Damn can't watch because I still need to play gears and saga. You should have timestamps for the discussion of each of them so people can watch the ones they've played without getting spoiled on ones they haven't.
I don't see why they need to censor the blood anyways because I really don't feel like the amount of blood that would be present in the games would be enough to warrant an M rating. Of course, this could be the result of me playing games and watching anime that have a ton of blood so, to me, a moderate amount of blood seems acceptable for a T rating. I'm not an ESRB rater though, so what do I know?
Damn, i gotta replay xenosaga. And play the first game. Maybe
Frozen blood crystals
I headcannon the reason Shulk doesn't bleed when he got shot is because Dickson used some magic bullet to pull Zanza out.
It's still dumb as balls he Should be bleeding.
I mean, ether bullets are still bullets. Shulk should be bleeding *something* anyway, as the storyboard clearly shows.
But then again that'd mean they have to add an additional texture modification for every single arm model Shulk has and it's A LOT of work for 2 seconds of accuracy.
@@corruptedteka I didn't mean ether, but some other kind of magic. Maybe some god-y stuff.
@@aidenlilley1319 I think it canonically was an ether bullet though, not sure where heard that, but in gameplay if you hack in to play as Dickson that's what he has. Interesting headcanon though !
Damnit, every time someone shows a video of xenoblade x, I get an itch to play it again. then I remember it's on the Wii U. Here's hoping for a X remaster. Also, I've said it before but censorship is shit
So who is Laura's biological father
There is some theorie about it...
But it's clearly not gort himself.
Luigi
@@tendo3541in that case why not Mario ?
@@famillesabot5719 Mario is Laura’s canonical grand father I believe.
Lmao props😂, please Nintendo Xenoblade3 couldn't come any sooner
I wish that Takahashi would get enough money and the go-ahead from the companies involved to put out M-rated versions of his Xeno games (aside from Xenogears), so that we can finally see all the realistic blood that the violent cutscenes should have had. Those cutscenes where there should be visible blood but none is shown makes me feel like the game developers are insulting my intelligence and/or breaking my suspension of disbelief in the game's world as a grounded and realistic (within limits) world.
Would Xenoblade 2 really have sold that much less if it were M-rated though? How many gamers actually follow ESRB/CERO ratings when it comes to who actually gets to play M-rated games?
luxin barely uploads xeno stuff for a few months just to upload a video about blood. yeah
hey i hate 2 can i get featured on an angry tweet plwease
Find yourself they is a lots of tweet about.
Just don't get too far. You have the right to dislike 2 but don't juge poeple who like it.
and why still being a game rated teen instead of Mature rated???
Lack of blood isn't what separate good game that Bad game.
For exemple XC2 isn't less good than 1 (even if 1 isn't that gore he did have blood 3 time).
But if the blood appear rarelly that impact scene.
And just for the facia they had a loot name blood face or something like this.
All I'm going to say is that the ESRB and other rating boards are fucking stupid. Along with censorship. Anyway, good video.
Blood coming out of a normal kid is far more disturbing to me than out of a grown-up or almost a grown-up. I don't really want to see any blood in Rex scene.
Besides, medically, there would be some blood but not a lot, trickling from the wounds if one gets stabbed whilst weapons remained not taken out. This is also why one should not take out the knife if they get stabbed, preventing from hemorrhagic shock.