It makes so much more sense why alvis was saying this universes time is short and why he was pressing shulk to make a decision since the conduit was disappearing and he was either going to loose his power or cease to exist
Tfw the machina are so technologically advanced they can make replicas of one the trinity. And the trinity are AI made to process the power of the conduit. These guys got galaxy brains
@@cake6851 So does that explain why Dunban wasn't able to control it because he never had the true, dominant will to even want to wield it in the first place?
Ehh im not convicned its that insane. It merely copied the phsyicality of the sword aspect and some of the effects of monado arts. None of the replicas come close at all to the actual trinity amd the power they contain
The Monado in detail Layer 1: Xenoblade 1; Details leading up to Alvis which is directly connected to the source which is not directly shown Layer 2: Xenoblade 2; Details on the “source” (actually shows it) and what it is mixed up with through its connections Layer 3: Xenogears/Xenosaga/Lore from the figure Box; History of the “source” itself and how it works overall
Thunder Chang the way the Conduit/Artifices/Aegises work is basically identical to how their equivalents work in Xenogears, and that plus the actual references to ‘Gears contained in XC2 make it a certainty that they’re connected
alvis is the admin of the world but still only a machine. what is interessting is that the name monado comes from religion and refers to an entity that can create others and only it can destroy these lesser ones. alvis is the original monado and due to him creating the universe,the two monadoswords came to be and he is the reason why shulk stood up to beat the owner of the monados(Zanza). however,I like the explanation more that someone on the fandomwiki gave a few years ago that a monad is a program that was created by another,but can change the sourceprogram. they gave the program the name monado because it was created by beings of their universe and was supposed to change it or create a new one(that part seems a bit weird to me)...well,until klaus fucked up by activating it too soon at least.
I think that they reason why Zanza was killed even though Shulk was the same but with only one sword is because Shulk wasn't just a homs at that point of the story. (Remember that the monado changes it's appearance depending on what the wielder is trying to fight). In Zanza's mind, Shulk was just a "mere mortal", a common folk homs while in reality he's probably an ascended homs/low level god. In Shulk's mind, however Zanza was a god. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why the true monado came into form, he was thinking about kiling a god, so the monado morphed into a god-slaying-sword.
I mean,pretty much. the symbol on the monado shows what it can kill. monado1 was sealed away and only its basic abilities remained,so its symbol was that of enchant which is machine. monado2 has the symbol for person,so it can destroy biological people in the image of mankind(homs/highentia). and monado 3 has the symbol for god on it and zanza actually commented on it,so he can likely read japanese and knew he was fucked.
I just noticed that Alvis says that he was part of a "phase transition experiment" and Klaus in Xenoblade 2 said that Ontos triggered a "space-time phase transition event", causing his disappearance. Coincidence?
Alvis being Ontos is a fan theory. I believe they are the same but some people choose to differ. Mythra's true Sword looks like a Monado too. Malos even has his own Monado.
@@XenoVis mythras true sword looks like a monado, but it doesn't have thin layers of glass that the monados do have. And I'd say malos's monado is a refrence, since its only showed once and is never mentioned again.
@@bananas7126 Malos actually uses his Monado twice (His endgame bosses in 2 and his boss fights in Torna), but with how little we actually *know* about the connection between the Aegis and Monado, I'm not going to tell anybody what to think. It could be a connection, it could be a reference, we'll just have to wait and see if there's any official word later down the line.
@@xdarkangerx7601 "It could be a connection, it could be a reference" The games are already confirmed to be connected, and Malos is directly related to that connection, so I don't think there's any chance that it's "just a reference."
Kirby's Monado is a whole 'nother can of worms. It likely doesn't provide all of the god powers of the original, but is rather just a replica capable of mimicking its most visible attributes (namely the shape and arts). That said, Kirby should be able to form said copy on his own after Planet Robobot and Star Allies suggested the possibility of Kirby and Dark Matter's species being able to summon weapons from memory. All that said, Kirby is, in all likelihood, powerful enough to have his own Monado separate from Shulk's, and in some ways, his Ultra Sword would probably count as it.
Given what we know about Void, Kirby's Monado is probably as powerful as the regular ones without the need to have the mermission of any of the Trinity Processor cores. If Kirby is able to access any of Void's powers since he is technically part of it, like Star Allies suggest, he could even be able to create fully functional replicas of the Cores themselves out of nothingness by using his will alone. Kirby's Monado would actually be legit according to what we know about Kirby but it would also somewhat be a downgrade because Kirby can actually already manipulate reality without the need of such a complicated network. To push the Xeno comparison further, in his universe, Kirby is actually connected to what would be the source of the power of all the beings that live in the upper domain, an absolute omniversal God, what is the source of the "leaking" that gives the Zohar/Conduit this much power. Funnily enough, Kirby has already destroyed beings that are very similar powers to the Trinity Processor. Does a "Sentient Super Computer that connects with a source of infinite power to grant its user the power to alter the fabric of the universe and modify its laws for it to fit their own wish" sounds familiar? Yep that's a thing in Kirby and these things were actually mass produced, Kirby killed two so far.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 I wasn't trying to claim that Kirby _can't_ replicate the full capabilities of the Monado, merely that he wouldn't bother in a situation like Smash. You bring up Star Dream, but there is 1 thing Star Dream was unable to achieve completely aside from defeating Kirby: cloning Dark Matter. Star Dream and the Trinity Processor may be godlike, but Kirby and Dark Matter are on a level above them comparable to Elder Gods and Great Old Ones.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say Kirby is on the level of the Conduit since literally ONLY ONE of the cores of the Trinity Processor being Alvis, is literally omnipotent in his own right, and literally nothing Kirby has done or fought has come close to omnipotent. Hell, replicating the True Monado is another thing too since it requires actual permission FROM said omnipotent being to do so, and using the sword literally grants you all his power, making YOU omnipotent yourself. So don't even get me started about Kirby being able to exceed the Conduit that is literally MADE UP OF TWO OTHER SIMILAR CORES *LIKE ALVIS* ALL COMING FROM *THE SAME POWER SOURCE!* So yeah... Kirby ain't gettin' anywhere near that.
Woah, Xenoblade's sun and moon are balls of either? Is that info from NPC dialogue? There's so many secrets this game's world has that I still haven't heard about.
I don't know where that is said either but I do know that the sun is stationary and just 'blinks' on and off, you can easily observe this yourself by just looking at a sunrise or sunset.
If the final cutscene is anything to go by, the world they're in is actually a pocket dimension, haphazardly slapped together by Klaus when he performed his experiment on the Not-Zohar. This is backed up when "good" Klaus wishes to see Galea again, and the camera drifts off to a space in his hologram which could well be the world she and Zanza ended up. I believe a Nopon says something about the day-night cycle in-game when spoken to, and mentions the sun and moon being balls of ether, but I don't recall who or where. It isn't until Alvis re-creates it on Shulk's behest at the end of the game that it's shaped into a full-fledged universe.
I assumed the monado's ability to freely manipulate ether was basically manipulating atoms and chemicals in the real world. I like how it's power is scientific and not magical because the replica monado's make complete sense that way, if it's scientific it has reverse engineered and replicated. I also see Alvis as the true god and the monado's as basically key's to tap into his power, all the keys need to be in agreement to use Alvis's power. I also think that's a really cool take on a god, having all the power but by his own programming can only use it when all the inputs have been made, like how my computer wont open windows unless I drag my mouse to it and click it, Alvis won't recreate the world until all the Monado's are in effect.
Warning: this comment is long, please bare through with it. There are different definitions of what a Monad is, the 2 most important for Xenoblade purposes, are Monad 1 = A soul (this is represented by the Monado swords) Monad 2 = True God Monad 1 refers to the version most prominently found in Monadology, with the pre-established harmony shit and whatnot(this detail was established by Meyneth, to Vanea, offscreen, and then Vanea revealed it to Shulk in a kind of offhand comment that nobody seems to remember) whereas Monad 2, refers to the True God in Gnosticism which is basically just existence itself and the Laws of physics through a complicated application of the Hermetic Principle of Mentalism. In Xenogears the Monad 2 is represented by “The Wavelength Existence” whereas in Xenoblade 1, it’s I guess Semi-represented by Alvis. As such, Alvis, no does not own the Monado swords, rather he owns the ability which all three used, to manifest their own Monados. Klaus and Galea manifested their’s with the whole birth of a universe thing and, Shulk gained the status through being the Demiurge, Zanza’s Messiah, with Alvis as Monad’s Christ (Valentinian Gnosticism, look it up) through this Alvis taught and nurtured Shulk’s mind to strengthen his Monad to being something worthy of being a God, which I shall refer to as the Gnosis phase. He had the aptitude to be worthy because Zanza, who already had a Monado, had previously killed him separating him from the Pre-established harmony, and making him technically already a God. Yes Shulk was a God before he owned his physical Monado, that has to do with Monadology.
So Shulk was able to become a god with the power to change reality, because he himself was killed by a god with the power to change reality? That's an interesting, and funny, thought.
No matter how many times I watch these videos, I still understand a little bit more every time I watch them and it breathes new life into my love for this series every time.
some points I differ on in no real order. also im really sorry if I misspell any names. Zanza was using mainith's sword in its true form it turned into twin swords for that one battle because A) it was the best weapon for that bodies mussel memory or B) it was some form of shared control and Fiora was doing the actual fighting. we can know this because after Manith dies we see the swords fall and combined before flying to Zanza. Dunban was able to use the monado because Zanza didn't want to die/have his sword destroyed but even with permission the fact that Dunban is not a god cost him his arm. its likely that Ryan could also use it if he had the same permission. All three Monados likely have the same power level but during the final battle Alvis removed Zanza's admin privileges well giving that authority to Shulk. because of this Zanza couldn't use nearly as much of the monados power (similar to Dunban only having two arts) and Shulk could use far more power.
Meyneth swords combined as it went upwards to Zanza, which i thought was an indication he merged it for convenience sake, since the appearance of the monados can be anything that conforms to the will of the user.
sad that we do not know the natural form of myneths monado except that it is purely physical and not based on energy(due to the mechonis body wielding it regardless of the small version being there). we know the natural form of zanzas monado,which is basicly monado2 and the only thing that changes is the size depending on the wielder...except for when zanza used the godversion at least
The Monado aren't physically constant like the rest of the universe. They can freely change according to their masters' whims, and one can also manifest as multiple separate objects (see Meyneth's dual wielding.) So they're kinda like Alvis; metaphysical concepts that can manifest physically whatever way you want. This is how Zanza uses the light sword and the Monado simultaneously.
I just needed this info because I was doing a drawing of Shulk, and I wanted to know what would be an appropriate monado to draw him wielding. This totally solved my issue.
Zanza made Shulk a 'god' Shulk had been a 'god' since Zanza posessed him, since Zanzas (active) body was sealed at prison island. (or his mind if you will) Zanzas mind can only inhabit one body. (Arglas)(not explicitly stated but implied by behavior and speech) after Arglas dies Zanza can't take over Shulk (as Shulk is a 'god' already) At first I thought it was 'weird' that Shulk wasn't Zanza, but in this context it makes sense to me. (it's more like the later fiora/meyneth possession but the whole time for Shulk storing Zanza.) Just my opinion.
it is likely that shulk has his essence and arglas has his mind while the monado has his soul. that is why the monado was able to do whatever it wants,but it never really did shit before shulk accidentially activated it after ryan tried to(he later says that stuff like that happened to him a few times,but I will just consider that a minor plothole). after that,zanza actively shapes his behavior and gives him visions,but he is not able to do stuff directly. after arglas dies,he is complete and just chills until dickson releases him. one time,he does not even bother showing shulk a vision he has which leads to him being confused at just knowing the attack was coming without seeing it.
Newbie who just finished the game, here to respond to a 2 year old comment! Before the big twist, I figured it was the opposite. After the twist, I can only surmise that, as beings born of the Bionis, someone resembling Klaus would inevitably exist. I don't understand a thing about Xeno lore, but if I'm looking at the implications right, Shulk is essentially Klaus' reincarnation. Shulk dislikes vegetables/Klaus treats life on the vegitated Bionis as bacteria. Shulk is a tinkerer and researcher/Klaus was a scientist. And there are other interesting parallels, or potential irony.
Gameplay-wise, it shows that normal people that don't wield the Monado can also change the outcome of the visions, but I don't know how much is just gameplay and how much is cannon, considering this is a huge mechanic trought the game, but idoes seem to be that on the more elaborate visions and probably in cannon in general, only the Monado can change the outcome(like using Shield on Reyn to prevent him from dying by the Arachno) or the Monado simply is the better option(now thinking of in-gameplay battles, for example something is gonna kill Reyn, Light Heal puts him on a range where he doesn't die, but using Monado Shield completely annuls the enemy's Talent Art)
I think that's more a case of since Shulk saw the vision if he tells someone else they acquire knowledge they are not supposed to have which in and of itself disrupts the flow of ether allowing the future to change. If that makes any sense I'm not very good at explaining.
I personally saw it as Alvis, Zanza, and Mayneth are the holders of the three monados. The original holders can freely wield others monados, which is why Alvis uses Zanza's monado for a period of time, and in the end of the game Zanza using Mayneth's monado after her defeat. After the first fight with Zanza, I saw it as Alvis granting Shulk the power to still have visions and during the final fight, Alvis granting Shluk the power to use Alvis' monado. Kinda similar to blades and their drivers from XC2, where beings who have the power to manipulate ether to a high degree granting others the power to wield it.
I'm watching this only now and have only played definitive edition... And couldn't identify a few of the characters in the footage 😂 Amazing video though really love the lore of this universe and your passion for the games and content creation around them
Haven’t finished the video, but basically I see the monados as physical manifestations of remote command line terminals to Alvis’s CPU (and thereby the XC1 universe as a whole), with a the true monado as a command prompt being run as administrator. When the universe was created, Alvis gave Klaus and Galea each an account with most permissions and a monado terminal, but only Shulk was given an admin account with *all* permissions when he got his.
Really glad i found this video. This is such a great summary and culmination of all that we know about them and it had so many things that i didn't even think of. I especially loved near the end when you talked about how the different god's power levels are determined by Alvis. While i do disagree with a few of the things in this video, i think in general this is one of the greatest xenoblade videos i have seen. Although i might be a bit late, keep up the good work man! I can see you put in a lot of time into this and you deserve the praise.
Can you fully explain the aegis. Like basically go over a lot of this again, but with the knowledge of the events in 2 (and X if there is any information). Have a feeling that this is what it is going to be in the next videos, but still.
Good video, but I feel the music could have been in better places. I heard, was it either The God-Slaying Sword or Zanza when Alvis was teaching Shulk Monado Purge, and then Colony 9 and Daily Life at the very end where Shulk slashed Zanza.
The concept of Driver and Blade are only a thing in the original universe since it was Klaus's idea. Klaus even refers to Malos as Logos manifested in Blade form, meaning the Aegises aren't originally Blades.
Well manipulation of the aeather (aka the stuff that makes up everything) is in every xeno game, in gears it's the mechs, in saga its Kos-mos and telos and the zhors and in blade 2 its pyra and mythra (fun fact there crystals has zhors so there gates to another world)
So a manado is a blade wielded by a powerful entity that is like a giant wand with specific abilities tied to it and can read ether like say learning a animals behavior pattern?
I'm pretty sure the Replica Monados don't have any of the actual Monado powers on their own. Fiora says that he was made a wonderful new weapon, not a Monado, and Dunban says they were relying too much on the Monado before Shulk shows up. I think the idea is they made a large sword around the same shape as the Monado so Shulk wouldn't have to change his fighting style too much when he woke up. Then, the power that was awakening inside him turned that Machina Sword into a full-fledged Monado. The other replicas have different stats, but no differences outside their capacity to forge other weapons; they're unable to change the artes or anything. I don't think Dickson would be so surprised by Shulk showing up with a Monado if the Machina were actually able to create something that could pass as one.
2:40 The funny thing is, the replicas actually are weaker than the Monado I, with even the max attack value of the Monado Abyss (13.5 x level) being below that of the Monado I (15 x level). Also, another fun fact, the attack value the the Monado III is the exact same as the Monado II (max of 18 x level). Granted, it does much more damage on average with its 75% minimum critical chance.
I know I'm late, but at 17:22, everyone on the expedition dies. Zanza just happened to choose Shulk to inhabit. We don't know if his name was even Shulk at that time, since Dickson was the one who found him.
I’m pretty sure the reason why Dunban was able to wield the Monado is because of his “desire to protect”. That desire is what allowed Shulk to use the Monado despite the Apocrypha being active, but it takes a large physical toll on the user, hence Dunban losing his arm, and Shulk becoming tired. Also Shulk was able to see the future and use Monado arts due to the fact that his experiences with Zanzas Monado allowed him to exist outside the “passage of fate”. Which is basically just the ultimate prophecy. Being outside this “Passage” means that his actions couldn’t be predicted by Zanza, and his god powers basically were becoming his own, not just borrowed from zanzas spirit. Alvis said “the Monado will grow with you.” And it’s because of this that his replicas channeled that power.
Also...in XC2 shulk gives Rex the Monado...now...it could still be shulk holding its power and Rex is just swinging it about...but that means Rex...is a God...witch...he is...he uses the master driver so he can use every blade the crew has...even the three poppies...yet the shulk we see is not "end game" he is..."halfway?" Maybe... Even then...the Monado and the Aegis are different swords...in different universes... controlled by a different God... We have the Monado 1 and 2... As well as pyra...mythra...and there third form...witch...is not owned by either... because...in the land of moythra you decide if pyra or mythra names appear next to the "third Aegis"... When you first get it fighting Jin...even when I was playing as nia...the game made me be Rex...and it is impossible to lose the fight to them...Rex will never go below 1hp...witch I understand... But also...the Aegis...opens up...and instead of having... ether? Come out...pyra has flames...mythra has light...and the third one has...all.. elements... It can use all elements... And... technically the manodo is a light blade... because...duh that's the element he is given... does that mean that it's...a Fourth Aegis? Of course not...but maybe...
or we can just forget that game existed in the first place. but if we dont,then shulk just gave him permission as a blade to use the monado. diffrent ruleset,so zanza likely cannot just say "no he cant"(at least I dont remember it being monado3. might be mistaken)
I was actually curious if there was a complicated answer of why shulk can use the zanza monado arts with the replica monado(s). Was it since he had the true monado in him the entire time or that Alvis just permitted it?
Hey, I know I'm late to the party here but I've just found your videos. Question: If you propose the Alvis is a Blade and the Monado is an Aegis, then how does that make sense with the fact that Meyneth's Monado exists? Based on XC2 logic, that doesn't really make sense. Would you just chalk it up to the fact that this is in the Universe that Alvis created so he can bend the rules a little bit regarding how the Blade system works since that was something that was established by Klaus in the XC2 universe?
The only thing I’m confused about is how can Zanza’s spirit reside in Shulk to revive his body when he died at a young age when Zanza was trapped in Arglas’s body on prison island.
I think when Arglas picked up the monado, he inherited most of Zanzas soul, but Zanza left a small piece of his soul inside the monado, just in case. Kinda like a horcrux. When shulk gained the monado, that piece then became part of shulk. Thats why he wasn't able to fully control Shulk and also why he had to free Arglas. After freeing Arglas the soul became why again within Shulk and then you know the rest.
Isn't zanza the bad side of Klaus so didn't he make alvis? Like, the Architect made the 3 Aegises, then the conduit glitched out and yeeted alvis to the same world that Klaus's bad side created. I'm just confused cuz what ur saying makes sense, that alvis created the 2 gods then granted Shulk the powers of a God, but if zanza/klaus created alvis in a different world, how did Alvis create zanza after he was lost in Alrests world
Am I the only one who seems weirded out by thus tiny detail but... Alvis wears a triangle design on his vest which most likely represents the whole trinity processor thing. The SAME design is on MEYNETH monado but not on zanzas. At the final boss fight the 3 monados make a triangle again... Is this a reflection of xenoblade 2? with mythra knowing and encompassing her duty of sword of God/ database AI of all life in the new universe and she recognized the existence of other monados like her (she would qualify as MEYNETH monado, MEYNETH seems to know she is a god for a reason and says the world does not need gods ) whereas malos is "freed" from his duty and wishes for all destruction but of himself as zanzas monado (xenoblade 1 says that the monado only acknowledges it's own existence and nothing else)? Sorry, maybe it's a bit confusing but that idea is messing so much with my mind and explaining it in a language I was not born learning is difficult ^^'
It could also be that the symbol is the symbol of machines in xenoblade. meyneth is the soul of the mechonis and her monado is her soul,so it would make sence for it to have a symbol relating to the mechonis nature. that could be very clever interconnectivity with alvis backstory as a program as a program is a part of a machine. zanza does not have it as he neither is a machine,never was part of one and his titanbody represents the biological aspect of the universe. what is also interessting is that alvis might have it on his clothing because he is the original monado that created the universe and never spawned his own sword after becoming a god.(if he did,then he would likely be the owner of monado3 and not shulk)
Yoko shimomura the composer for Kingdom Hearts did do a handful of the tracks in Xenoblade 1 Including the main title theme and the main Bionis battle theme (the one at your timestamp) along with a few others. so yes it is partly the same composer
I kind of wish that at the end of the final battle when Shulk gets the true monado that all of his arts become maxed out and there is a much more noticeable difference in the power because as far as i am aware, the only real change is the auto attack becomes constant and he has a super high critical rate.
the problem is that it would screw up newgame+. you would never need to actually level the arts diring the first playthrough as every one you have unlocked by the time the op weapon spawns would just max
Fantastic video, thank you for your effort. The appearence of the Monado depends on the will of it's wielder, that's how Zanza described it. So I think, that Zanzas Monado has 3 different forms because of the current will of its wielder. The first form symbolizes revenge and hatred for the mechon. It is red, a colour for love or in this case hatred and revenge. The second form becomes sharper and bigger. That indicates the release of the chuckles. This form has more of Zanzas power in it and the strong will to kill every mechon and to be more offensive. The "true" form that is wielded by Zanza doesn't seem to be suited for battle beacouse of that wing decoration stuff and isn't completely red anymore. I think that it shows how arrogant he is. But more importantly: he truly longs for friendship, even if his pride and morals hide it. That's why his sword does'nt seem that menacing. "The Monado is the light of each and every living being in the world" - Vanea That light, though the Bionis wields pure light, is not anymore in the monado of Zanza. He himself doesn't personifies life at the time he awakens. He want's only death for his own creation so he can continue to exist. Quite selfish... I always have the feeling that in the world of Xenoblade an intelligent liveform consists of it's body, soul and will. These make them real persons. Alvis for instance had a body and an artificial soul (AI), but no own will. Sure he takes action on it's own, but he does not have a real inner will, no meaning of live that he can chose for himself. Yet he is the one that tells Shulk that he could find his own path into the future.
Yeah bc Ontos triggered that transition event and the Aegis cores were only made as the managers of blades which is what Klaus did after (a) the experiment which separated him across universes and (b) remaking his own world so Ontos probably wanted to check out where his dad’s other half is and turns out he’s a god with a god mentality bc from his POV the experiment was a complete success and both sides of Klaus had world-shaping powers after the experiment no matter which side of it they ended up on. Maybe Ontos deliberately soaked up a shit ton of the conduit’s power making him way more powerful than the other processor cores giving him ultimate power over even Zanza who we don’t know how much of its power he was imbued with but since Alvis is able to overrule him it’s probably less than Alvis. Same goes for Meyneth probably idk just a wild bit of speculation.
"Information gleamed from other games will be ignored" ... then what's the point? Ignoring it's origins and other important info kinda defeats the whole purpose of an "explained" video, doesn't it?
Because Xenoblade 2 is a completely separate thing yet is exactly parallel. It’s version of a monado is not the same as the powers of Alvis’ creations. Alvis was, to my knowledge, working to sync the worlds while the architect dwindled. So he’s changing things more directly, as opposed to the Architect just kinda watching.
i just ignore x and 2 entirely,they add nothing positive to 1 for me. in that matter,i just always took it as the thing that happens is that shulk actually spawned the monado himself like the cutscene suggests,just that alvis basicly tells him "yeah,you are the most fitting of spawning the thing,so do it lol".the true monado is clear in design,which actually suggests it didnt exist before. on another note,alvis actually also seemed pretty done of zanzas stick when he linked the power of the three swords,so he might have actually waited for the world to resolve its fate and he just noticed "yeah,thats the dude" when shulk was around.and i always just thought gods can wield whatever monado.alvis technicly didnt have a monado since he isnt the god of any specific element but rather someone who watches present and future and sets things that are already possible in the universe in motion(like linking the swords or creating the world when shulk had no idea how). however,since he has those abilitys,he was also able to unlock monadoarts since thats already possible in the universe.he only unlocked the one that prevents shulk from getting killed,because he wanted fate to play out with as little tempering as possible.if shulk were to spawn the absolute power,he would have to earn it or the world would not be properly concluded.....or something like that.its actually harder to justify alvis not literally being the source of everything than i thought xD
It makes so much more sense why alvis was saying this universes time is short and why he was pressing shulk to make a decision since the conduit was disappearing and he was either going to loose his power or cease to exist
He will probably lose allot of his power but he won’t seize to exist since in the ending of 2 mythra and Pyra exist
We killed logos, pneuma sent her core crystal to rex and lives on, and ontos allowed shulk to choose what the future of his world faces
Tfw the machina are so technologically advanced they can make replicas of one the trinity. And the trinity are AI made to process the power of the conduit. These guys got galaxy brains
Well, they literally had a fraction of Meyneth inside them. Naturally they would be the strongest race in all of Mechonis and Bionis.
@@XenoVis Well I mean technically everyone does. Because anyone could get a monado if they have the dominant will
@@cake6851 So does that explain why Dunban wasn't able to control it because he never had the true, dominant will to even want to wield it in the first place?
@@chaosqrow634 Yeah, also Zanza's will was just way bigger than his.
Ehh im not convicned its that insane. It merely copied the phsyicality of the sword aspect and some of the effects of monado arts. None of the replicas come close at all to the actual trinity amd the power they contain
The Monado in detail
Layer 1: Xenoblade 1; Details leading up to Alvis which is directly connected to the source which is not directly shown
Layer 2: Xenoblade 2; Details on the “source” (actually shows it) and what it is mixed up with through its connections
Layer 3: Xenogears/Xenosaga/Lore from the figure Box; History of the “source” itself and how it works overall
Xenogrears is part of the lore to?
@@zhang6754 The devs confirmed, that choosing the Xeno-prefix was deliberately. At first the game was called "Monado: The Beginning of the World"
@@MrDiarukia Xenoblade is a much better name.
Tael64 thank Satoru Iwata for the Xenoblade name
Thunder Chang the way the Conduit/Artifices/Aegises work is basically identical to how their equivalents work in Xenogears, and that plus the actual references to ‘Gears contained in XC2 make it a certainty that they’re connected
So basically, Alvis has admin rights.
Moksum “The Homs have spoken. Zanza, you have been...
B A N N E D “
Alvis is the OS.
It doesn't make sense to say that Alvis is the admin of Alvis.
alvis is the admin of the world but still only a machine. what is interessting is that the name monado comes from religion and refers to an entity that can create others and only it can destroy these lesser ones. alvis is the original monado and due to him creating the universe,the two monadoswords came to be and he is the reason why shulk stood up to beat the owner of the monados(Zanza).
however,I like the explanation more that someone on the fandomwiki gave a few years ago that a monad is a program that was created by another,but can change the sourceprogram. they gave the program the name monado because it was created by beings of their universe and was supposed to change it or create a new one(that part seems a bit weird to me)...well,until klaus fucked up by activating it too soon at least.
Alvis is the bot moderator of this
@@angeldude101 yea basically shulk is just operating a computer....which is reality.
I think that they reason why Zanza was killed even though Shulk was the same but with only one sword is because Shulk wasn't just a homs at that point of the story. (Remember that the monado changes it's appearance depending on what the wielder is trying to fight). In Zanza's mind, Shulk was just a "mere mortal", a common folk homs while in reality he's probably an ascended homs/low level god. In Shulk's mind, however Zanza was a god. Nothing more, nothing less. That's why the true monado came into form, he was thinking about kiling a god, so the monado morphed into a god-slaying-sword.
Big brain
I mean,pretty much. the symbol on the monado shows what it can kill. monado1 was sealed away and only its basic abilities remained,so its symbol was that of enchant which is machine. monado2 has the symbol for person,so it can destroy biological people in the image of mankind(homs/highentia). and monado 3 has the symbol for god on it and zanza actually commented on it,so he can likely read japanese and knew he was fucked.
@@lpfan4491 even bigger brain
*Monado, you Monado, he-she-me Monado. Monadoing, Monadology, the study of Monado! It's first grade, Spongebob*
I've waited my whole entire lifespan for this video
It's Time!
*its ryen time
Fancy seeing you here, monado boy!
FR...?
As in... French ?
:D
Yay ! Contente de voir des fans français ^^
I just noticed that Alvis says that he was part of a "phase transition experiment" and Klaus in Xenoblade 2 said that Ontos triggered a "space-time phase transition event", causing his disappearance. Coincidence?
Alvis being Ontos is a fan theory. I believe they are the same but some people choose to differ.
Mythra's true Sword looks like a Monado too. Malos even has his own Monado.
@@XenoVis mythras true sword looks like a monado, but it doesn't have thin layers of glass that the monados do have. And I'd say malos's monado is a refrence, since its only showed once and is never mentioned again.
@@bananas7126 Malos actually uses his Monado twice (His endgame bosses in 2 and his boss fights in Torna), but with how little we actually *know* about the connection between the Aegis and Monado, I'm not going to tell anybody what to think. It could be a connection, it could be a reference, we'll just have to wait and see if there's any official word later down the line.
Malos literally has his own monado.
@@xdarkangerx7601 "It could be a connection, it could be a reference" The games are already confirmed to be connected, and Malos is directly related to that connection, so I don't think there's any chance that it's "just a reference."
Shulk's Monado:Very powerful.
Kirby Monado:probably very powerful in the right numbs.
Kirby's Monado is a whole 'nother can of worms. It likely doesn't provide all of the god powers of the original, but is rather just a replica capable of mimicking its most visible attributes (namely the shape and arts). That said, Kirby should be able to form said copy on his own after Planet Robobot and Star Allies suggested the possibility of Kirby and Dark Matter's species being able to summon weapons from memory.
All that said, Kirby is, in all likelihood, powerful enough to have his own Monado separate from Shulk's, and in some ways, his Ultra Sword would probably count as it.
Given what we know about Void, Kirby's Monado is probably as powerful as the regular ones without the need to have the mermission of any of the Trinity Processor cores. If Kirby is able to access any of Void's powers since he is technically part of it, like Star Allies suggest, he could even be able to create fully functional replicas of the Cores themselves out of nothingness by using his will alone.
Kirby's Monado would actually be legit according to what we know about Kirby but it would also somewhat be a downgrade because Kirby can actually already manipulate reality without the need of such a complicated network.
To push the Xeno comparison further, in his universe, Kirby is actually connected to what would be the source of the power of all the beings that live in the upper domain, an absolute omniversal God, what is the source of the "leaking" that gives the Zohar/Conduit this much power.
Funnily enough, Kirby has already destroyed beings that are very similar powers to the Trinity Processor. Does a "Sentient Super Computer that connects with a source of infinite power to grant its user the power to alter the fabric of the universe and modify its laws for it to fit their own wish" sounds familiar? Yep that's a thing in Kirby and these things were actually mass produced, Kirby killed two so far.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 I wasn't trying to claim that Kirby _can't_ replicate the full capabilities of the Monado, merely that he wouldn't bother in a situation like Smash.
You bring up Star Dream, but there is 1 thing Star Dream was unable to achieve completely aside from defeating Kirby: cloning Dark Matter. Star Dream and the Trinity Processor may be godlike, but Kirby and Dark Matter are on a level above them comparable to Elder Gods and Great Old Ones.
kirby being the reincarnation of a god is kinda lol looking back at star allies,but whatever.
@@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say Kirby is on the level of the Conduit since literally ONLY ONE of the cores of the Trinity Processor being Alvis, is literally omnipotent in his own right, and literally nothing Kirby has done or fought has come close to omnipotent. Hell, replicating the True Monado is another thing too since it requires actual permission FROM said omnipotent being to do so, and using the sword literally grants you all his power, making YOU omnipotent yourself. So don't even get me started about Kirby being able to exceed the Conduit that is literally MADE UP OF TWO OTHER SIMILAR CORES *LIKE ALVIS* ALL COMING FROM *THE SAME POWER SOURCE!* So yeah... Kirby ain't gettin' anywhere near that.
Thanks for posting!
And here just my favourite quote:
I am Monado. I was here from the beginning and I will proclaim the end. -Alvis
Could be a link to:
'I am alpha and omega. I am the beginning and the end' quote from the bible/xenogears
Woah, Xenoblade's sun and moon are balls of either? Is that info from NPC dialogue? There's so many secrets this game's world has that I still haven't heard about.
I don't know where that is said either but I do know that the sun is stationary and just 'blinks' on and off, you can easily observe this yourself by just looking at a sunrise or sunset.
If the final cutscene is anything to go by, the world they're in is actually a pocket dimension, haphazardly slapped together by Klaus when he performed his experiment on the Not-Zohar. This is backed up when "good" Klaus wishes to see Galea again, and the camera drifts off to a space in his hologram which could well be the world she and Zanza ended up. I believe a Nopon says something about the day-night cycle in-game when spoken to, and mentions the sun and moon being balls of ether, but I don't recall who or where.
It isn't until Alvis re-creates it on Shulk's behest at the end of the game that it's shaped into a full-fledged universe.
Does Alvis got Windows 10 up on him? 🤔
He got Windows 69
you think alvis needs windows?
Mimi the Heropon Nice
Alvis uses Linux
LPFan Windows are a structural weakness
F in the chat for everyone that had to rock awful fashion choices before D.E.
Let's see what we can actually make outta this reality warping blade
I assumed the monado's ability to freely manipulate ether was basically manipulating atoms and chemicals in the real world. I like how it's power is scientific and not magical because the replica monado's make complete sense that way, if it's scientific it has reverse engineered and replicated.
I also see Alvis as the true god and the monado's as basically key's to tap into his power, all the keys need to be in agreement to use Alvis's power. I also think that's a really cool take on a god, having all the power but by his own programming can only use it when all the inputs have been made, like how my computer wont open windows unless I drag my mouse to it and click it, Alvis won't recreate the world until all the Monado's are in effect.
Warning: this comment is long, please bare through with it.
There are different definitions of what a Monad is, the 2 most important for Xenoblade purposes, are
Monad 1 = A soul (this is represented by the Monado swords)
Monad 2 = True God
Monad 1 refers to the version most prominently found in Monadology, with the pre-established harmony shit and whatnot(this detail was established by Meyneth, to Vanea, offscreen, and then Vanea revealed it to Shulk in a kind of offhand comment that nobody seems to remember) whereas Monad 2, refers to the True God in Gnosticism which is basically just existence itself and the Laws of physics through a complicated application of the Hermetic Principle of Mentalism.
In Xenogears the Monad 2 is represented by “The Wavelength Existence” whereas in Xenoblade 1, it’s I guess Semi-represented by Alvis. As such, Alvis, no does not own the Monado swords, rather he owns the ability which all three used, to manifest their own Monados. Klaus and Galea manifested their’s with the whole birth of a universe thing and, Shulk gained the status through being the Demiurge, Zanza’s Messiah, with Alvis as Monad’s Christ (Valentinian Gnosticism, look it up) through this Alvis taught and nurtured Shulk’s mind to strengthen his Monad to being something worthy of being a God, which I shall refer to as the Gnosis phase. He had the aptitude to be worthy because Zanza, who already had a Monado, had previously killed him separating him from the Pre-established harmony, and making him technically already a God. Yes Shulk was a God before he owned his physical Monado, that has to do with Monadology.
Here’s a link to the particular cutscene in question:
ua-cam.com/video/Cbq012T6s6k/v-deo.html
Sees the like, omg did somebody actually read this comment. Whoa.
This comment actually explain better than the video it self
So Shulk was able to become a god with the power to change reality, because he himself was killed by a god with the power to change reality? That's an interesting, and funny, thought.
Solibrae It is indeed, Monadology be some weird shit I tell ya.
No matter how many times I watch these videos, I still understand a little bit more every time I watch them and it breathes new life into my love for this series every time.
The Monado... The best sword ever.
...ff want to speak with you
**Don't tell Fi, or Mythra**
@@Joel-hx6dn But Mythra is a Monado...
@@Dualgas I'm talking about shulk's monado
*if someone tells mythra about the monado,then she will be sad because her oniichan is cooler than her*
some points I differ on in no real order. also im really sorry if I misspell any names.
Zanza was using mainith's sword in its true form it turned into twin swords for that one battle because A) it was the best weapon for that bodies mussel memory or B) it was some form of shared control and Fiora was doing the actual fighting. we can know this because after Manith dies we see the swords fall and combined before flying to Zanza.
Dunban was able to use the monado because Zanza didn't want to die/have his sword destroyed but even with permission the fact that Dunban is not a god cost him his arm. its likely that Ryan could also use it if he had the same permission.
All three Monados likely have the same power level but during the final battle Alvis removed Zanza's admin privileges well giving that authority to Shulk. because of this Zanza couldn't use nearly as much of the monados power (similar to Dunban only having two arts) and Shulk could use far more power.
What I think about the last battle is that Zanza was underestimating Shulk and his team. I made a comment explaining it in more detail.
@@XenoVis ok that makes fallows logically but I don't see that completely contradicting my viewpoint
Meyneth swords combined as it went upwards to Zanza, which i thought was an indication he merged it for convenience sake, since the appearance of the monados can be anything that conforms to the will of the user.
sad that we do not know the natural form of myneths monado except that it is purely physical and not based on energy(due to the mechonis body wielding it regardless of the small version being there). we know the natural form of zanzas monado,which is basicly monado2 and the only thing that changes is the size depending on the wielder...except for when zanza used the godversion at least
Let's press on and on and on!
With the series.
let's press on and on and on!
And on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and now it’s Reyn time.
Man what a bunch of jokers.
But we musn't be careless
@@CloisteredExplorer Hey Sharla! Did you see what I did?
I got monapon which is bestest
Ponado?
The Monado aren't physically constant like the rest of the universe. They can freely change according to their masters' whims, and one can also manifest as multiple separate objects (see Meyneth's dual wielding.)
So they're kinda like Alvis; metaphysical concepts that can manifest physically whatever way you want. This is how Zanza uses the light sword and the Monado simultaneously.
schrödingers sword. if the wielder does not want it to exist,then it does not
just beat definitive edition, boutta binge all these lore videos that i couldn’t watch before
Thanks for everything that you do for Xenoblade
I just needed this info because I was doing a drawing of Shulk, and I wanted to know what would be an appropriate monado to draw him wielding. This totally solved my issue.
Zanza made Shulk a 'god'
Shulk had been a 'god' since Zanza posessed him, since Zanzas (active) body was sealed at prison island. (or his mind if you will)
Zanzas mind can only inhabit one body. (Arglas)(not explicitly stated but implied by behavior and speech)
after Arglas dies Zanza can't take over Shulk (as Shulk is a 'god' already)
At first I thought it was 'weird' that Shulk wasn't Zanza, but in this context it makes sense to me. (it's more like the later fiora/meyneth possession but the whole time for Shulk storing Zanza.)
Just my opinion.
it is likely that shulk has his essence and arglas has his mind while the monado has his soul. that is why the monado was able to do whatever it wants,but it never really did shit before shulk accidentially activated it after ryan tried to(he later says that stuff like that happened to him a few times,but I will just consider that a minor plothole). after that,zanza actively shapes his behavior and gives him visions,but he is not able to do stuff directly. after arglas dies,he is complete and just chills until dickson releases him. one time,he does not even bother showing shulk a vision he has which leads to him being confused at just knowing the attack was coming without seeing it.
So does Shulk look like Zanza because he had his soul inside him for most of his life?
that's what I always assumed
Nah I think its the other way around -- Zanza took the appearance of Shulk because that is the body he inhabited.
@@NotTherapistThomas both Zanza and Shulk look like Klaus when we see him in the ending flashback so that points to Shulk looking like Zanza
Shooooot. I didn't even think about that
Newbie who just finished the game, here to respond to a 2 year old comment! Before the big twist, I figured it was the opposite. After the twist, I can only surmise that, as beings born of the Bionis, someone resembling Klaus would inevitably exist. I don't understand a thing about Xeno lore, but if I'm looking at the implications right, Shulk is essentially Klaus' reincarnation.
Shulk dislikes vegetables/Klaus treats life on the vegitated Bionis as bacteria.
Shulk is a tinkerer and researcher/Klaus was a scientist.
And there are other interesting parallels, or potential irony.
Gameplay-wise, it shows that normal people that don't wield the Monado can also change the outcome of the visions, but I don't know how much is just gameplay and how much is cannon, considering this is a huge mechanic trought the game, but idoes seem to be that on the more elaborate visions and probably in cannon in general, only the Monado can change the outcome(like using Shield on Reyn to prevent him from dying by the Arachno) or the Monado simply is the better option(now thinking of in-gameplay battles, for example something is gonna kill Reyn, Light Heal puts him on a range where he doesn't die, but using Monado Shield completely annuls the enemy's Talent Art)
I think that's more a case of since Shulk saw the vision if he tells someone else they acquire knowledge they are not supposed to have which in and of itself disrupts the flow of ether allowing the future to change.
If that makes any sense I'm not very good at explaining.
That actually makes sense, to avoid the vision they need to be aware of it, which it is in itself a power of the Monado
its not as if they used two entire chapters of the plot to explain how changing the future actually works
Just finished definitive IM SO HAPPY WITH HOW IT ENDED BUT I GOT QUESTIONS SO I FINALLY CAN WATCH THIS VIDEO
I personally saw it as Alvis, Zanza, and Mayneth are the holders of the three monados. The original holders can freely wield others monados, which is why Alvis uses Zanza's monado for a period of time, and in the end of the game Zanza using Mayneth's monado after her defeat. After the first fight with Zanza, I saw it as Alvis granting Shulk the power to still have visions and during the final fight, Alvis granting Shluk the power to use Alvis' monado. Kinda similar to blades and their drivers from XC2, where beings who have the power to manipulate ether to a high degree granting others the power to wield it.
This is the monados power
You forgot to mention the monodo's vegetable cutting abilities.
The Alvis chapter is called Elvis
I'm watching this only now and have only played definitive edition... And couldn't identify a few of the characters in the footage 😂
Amazing video though really love the lore of this universe and your passion for the games and content creation around them
Haven’t finished the video, but basically I see the monados as physical manifestations of remote command line terminals to Alvis’s CPU (and thereby the XC1 universe as a whole), with a the true monado as a command prompt being run as administrator. When the universe was created, Alvis gave Klaus and Galea each an account with most permissions and a monado terminal, but only Shulk was given an admin account with *all* permissions when he got his.
Every clip i see in this video makes me glad I waited to definitive to play, lol.
Really glad i found this video. This is such a great summary and culmination of all that we know about them and it had so many things that i didn't even think of. I especially loved near the end when you talked about how the different god's power levels are determined by Alvis.
While i do disagree with a few of the things in this video, i think in general this is one of the greatest xenoblade videos i have seen. Although i might be a bit late, keep up the good work man! I can see you put in a lot of time into this and you deserve the praise.
xenoblade one of the greatest jrpg ever made
So Xenoblade is basically a case study in simulation theory
Ether = Mana, Chakra, Ginki, Ki, Chi, Ect...
Manodo = Ex Machina
Can you fully explain the aegis. Like basically go over a lot of this again, but with the knowledge of the events in 2 (and X if there is any information). Have a feeling that this is what it is going to be in the next videos, but still.
Did you finish the game? The cutscenes tell you everything you want to know.
Bringing up Bionis and Mechinis Buster makes me think back to Aion having Siren Buster in XC2...
Yes,
IT'S REYN TIME!
The Maguffo blade
Good video, but I feel the music could have been in better places. I heard, was it either The God-Slaying Sword or Zanza when Alvis was teaching Shulk Monado Purge, and then Colony 9 and Daily Life at the very end where Shulk slashed Zanza.
Is it possible that the reason my Dunban and other people can’t use the monado is because they weren’t alvis bonded driver
The concept of Driver and Blade are only a thing in the original universe since it was Klaus's idea. Klaus even refers to Malos as Logos manifested in Blade form, meaning the Aegises aren't originally Blades.
redhandsbluefaces well considering shulk basically does the bonding thing that’s done I’m xenoblade 2
@@ontos8534 there is a cutscene with Shulk and Alvis that looks extremely similar to Rex's and Pyra's bonding
@@XenoVis which scene are you talking about??
Kroolzz it’s one of the scenes when shulk is in space just before he comes back to life
I like how the monado is literally laplaces demon in magic sword form
I love XC1 and this is amazing
19:18 to make sure that one race doesn't destroy the others is my guess
Well manipulation of the aeather (aka the stuff that makes up everything) is in every xeno game, in gears it's the mechs, in saga its Kos-mos and telos and the zhors and in blade 2 its pyra and mythra (fun fact there crystals has zhors so there gates to another world)
So a manado is a blade wielded by a powerful entity that is like a giant wand with specific abilities tied to it and can read ether like say learning a animals behavior pattern?
I'm pretty sure the Replica Monados don't have any of the actual Monado powers on their own. Fiora says that he was made a wonderful new weapon, not a Monado, and Dunban says they were relying too much on the Monado before Shulk shows up. I think the idea is they made a large sword around the same shape as the Monado so Shulk wouldn't have to change his fighting style too much when he woke up. Then, the power that was awakening inside him turned that Machina Sword into a full-fledged Monado. The other replicas have different stats, but no differences outside their capacity to forge other weapons; they're unable to change the artes or anything.
I don't think Dickson would be so surprised by Shulk showing up with a Monado if the Machina were actually able to create something that could pass as one.
Those Wii graphics. Wait its that a human on my screen?!
That Munkhar guy was also using the monado
2:40 The funny thing is, the replicas actually are weaker than the Monado I, with even the max attack value of the Monado Abyss (13.5 x level) being below that of the Monado I (15 x level). Also, another fun fact, the attack value the the Monado III is the exact same as the Monado II (max of 18 x level). Granted, it does much more damage on average with its 75% minimum critical chance.
I know I'm late, but at 17:22, everyone on the expedition dies. Zanza just happened to choose Shulk to inhabit. We don't know if his name was even Shulk at that time, since Dickson was the one who found him.
it would actually make sence if shulk was not his original name as dickson said there never was someone called that
I’m pretty sure the reason why Dunban was able to wield the Monado is because of his “desire to protect”. That desire is what allowed Shulk to use the Monado despite the Apocrypha being active, but it takes a large physical toll on the user, hence Dunban losing his arm, and Shulk becoming tired.
Also Shulk was able to see the future and use Monado arts due to the fact that his experiences with Zanzas Monado allowed him to exist outside the “passage of fate”. Which is basically just the ultimate prophecy. Being outside this “Passage” means that his actions couldn’t be predicted by Zanza, and his god powers basically were becoming his own, not just borrowed from zanzas spirit. Alvis said “the Monado will grow with you.” And it’s because of this that his replicas channeled that power.
Also...in XC2 shulk gives Rex the Monado...now...it could still be shulk holding its power and Rex is just swinging it about...but that means Rex...is a God...witch...he is...he uses the master driver so he can use every blade the crew has...even the three poppies...yet the shulk we see is not "end game" he is..."halfway?" Maybe... Even then...the Monado and the Aegis are different swords...in different universes... controlled by a different God... We have the Monado 1 and 2... As well as pyra...mythra...and there third form...witch...is not owned by either... because...in the land of moythra you decide if pyra or mythra names appear next to the "third Aegis"... When you first get it fighting Jin...even when I was playing as nia...the game made me be Rex...and it is impossible to lose the fight to them...Rex will never go below 1hp...witch I understand... But also...the Aegis...opens up...and instead of having... ether? Come out...pyra has flames...mythra has light...and the third one has...all.. elements... It can use all elements... And... technically the manodo is a light blade... because...duh that's the element he is given... does that mean that it's...a Fourth Aegis? Of course not...but maybe...
Go away
The real question is :
"Is the dlc canon ?"
or we can just forget that game existed in the first place. but if we dont,then shulk just gave him permission as a blade to use the monado. diffrent ruleset,so zanza likely cannot just say "no he cant"(at least I dont remember it being monado3. might be mistaken)
What is happening with the camera there lmao 4:29
I was actually curious if there was a complicated answer of why shulk can use the zanza monado arts with the replica monado(s). Was it since he had the true monado in him the entire time or that Alvis just permitted it?
So monado is like a controler to a game that alvis made. Game being the universe of course.
Shulk basically got the Apex manado
Notice how Shulk's monado look like the one bionis used
Alvis was Rex's blade. You don't have to be near your driver.
What do you mean pyra/mythra is rex's blade
If Alvis combined all the monados and his own power, awaking his true state, he would be a god.
That's what I'm guessing
He is already god
The Monado?
I always thought it was a bit weird the Monado could not hurt people only mechonis even though it’s the weapon of gods?
Basically, the Monado is a canon Game Genie.
basicly
Hey, I know I'm late to the party here but I've just found your videos. Question: If you propose the Alvis is a Blade and the Monado is an Aegis, then how does that make sense with the fact that Meyneth's Monado exists? Based on XC2 logic, that doesn't really make sense. Would you just chalk it up to the fact that this is in the Universe that Alvis created so he can bend the rules a little bit regarding how the Blade system works since that was something that was established by Klaus in the XC2 universe?
The only thing I’m confused about is how can Zanza’s spirit reside in Shulk to revive his body when he died at a young age when Zanza was trapped in Arglas’s body on prison island.
I think when Arglas picked up the monado, he inherited most of Zanzas soul, but Zanza left a small piece of his soul inside the monado, just in case. Kinda like a horcrux. When shulk gained the monado, that piece then became part of shulk. Thats why he wasn't able to fully control Shulk and also why he had to free Arglas. After freeing Arglas the soul became why again within Shulk and then you know the rest.
Isn't zanza the bad side of Klaus so didn't he make alvis? Like, the Architect made the 3 Aegises, then the conduit glitched out and yeeted alvis to the same world that Klaus's bad side created. I'm just confused cuz what ur saying makes sense, that alvis created the 2 gods then granted Shulk the powers of a God, but if zanza/klaus created alvis in a different world, how did Alvis create zanza after he was lost in Alrests world
turning the people into gods basicly
Whats the song in the background ?
Monado abilities are browken, thats my explanation
You just can take most of this game seriously with some of these cutscenes which what the characters wear.
Am I the only one who seems weirded out by thus tiny detail but...
Alvis wears a triangle design on his vest which most likely represents the whole trinity processor thing. The SAME design is on MEYNETH monado but not on zanzas. At the final boss fight the 3 monados make a triangle again...
Is this a reflection of xenoblade 2?
with mythra knowing and encompassing her duty of sword of God/ database AI of all life in the new universe and she recognized the existence of other monados like her (she would qualify as MEYNETH monado, MEYNETH seems to know she is a god for a reason and says the world does not need gods ) whereas malos is "freed" from his duty and wishes for all destruction but of himself as zanzas monado (xenoblade 1 says that the monado only acknowledges it's own existence and nothing else)?
Sorry, maybe it's a bit confusing but that idea is messing so much with my mind and explaining it in a language I was not born learning is difficult ^^'
It could also be that the symbol is the symbol of machines in xenoblade. meyneth is the soul of the mechonis and her monado is her soul,so it would make sence for it to have a symbol relating to the mechonis nature. that could be very clever interconnectivity with alvis backstory as a program as a program is a part of a machine. zanza does not have it as he neither is a machine,never was part of one and his titanbody represents the biological aspect of the universe. what is also interessting is that alvis might have it on his clothing because he is the original monado that created the universe and never spawned his own sword after becoming a god.(if he did,then he would likely be the owner of monado3 and not shulk)
So Monado = Godmode
So this is the manodo's power?
where are the other 2 vids in this series?
I know this is a xenoblade video and all but around 7:20 it sounds like kingdom hearts music. Is it the same or different composer?
Yoko shimomura the composer for Kingdom Hearts did do a handful of the tracks in Xenoblade 1
Including the main title theme and the main Bionis battle theme (the one at your timestamp) along with a few others.
so yes it is partly the same composer
I'm really felling it
What about zanzaa and mey in space when there weren’t gods? What’s up with that?
I kind of wish that at the end of the final battle when Shulk gets the true monado that all of his arts become maxed out and there is a much more noticeable difference in the power because as far as i am aware, the only real change is the auto attack becomes constant and he has a super high critical rate.
the problem is that it would screw up newgame+. you would never need to actually level the arts diring the first playthrough as every one you have unlocked by the time the op weapon spawns would just max
Why are two of the trinity processors connected to Monados but only one is an Aegis?
@@ZComma no?
Fantastic video, thank you for your effort.
The appearence of the Monado depends on the will of it's wielder, that's how Zanza described it. So I think, that Zanzas Monado has 3 different forms because of the current will of its wielder. The first form symbolizes revenge and hatred for the mechon. It is red, a colour for love or in this case hatred and revenge. The second form becomes sharper and bigger. That indicates the release of the chuckles. This form has more of Zanzas power in it and the strong will to kill every mechon and to be more offensive. The "true" form that is wielded by Zanza doesn't seem to be suited for battle beacouse of that wing decoration stuff and isn't completely red anymore. I think that it shows how arrogant he is. But more importantly: he truly longs for friendship, even if his pride and morals hide it. That's why his sword does'nt seem that menacing.
"The Monado is the light of each and every living being in the world" - Vanea
That light, though the Bionis wields pure light, is not anymore in the monado of Zanza. He himself doesn't personifies life at the time he awakens. He want's only death for his own creation so he can continue to exist. Quite selfish...
I always have the feeling that in the world of Xenoblade an intelligent liveform consists of it's body, soul and will. These make them real persons. Alvis for instance had a body and an artificial soul (AI), but no own will. Sure he takes action on it's own, but he does not have a real inner will, no meaning of live that he can chose for himself. Yet he is the one that tells Shulk that he could find his own path into the future.
i was expecting a bit of design analysis, after all the monado stuff.
so if there was truly 1 monado, alvis. why does malos have a type of monado?
because
1.fanservice
and
2.retcons
@Lyn we get to defeat zanza in better graphics
You called fellow Xeno-fan?
What's part 3?
And the weapon of the 3rd missing agis! Possibly. (Spoiler?)
as well as Malos weapon and possibly Mythra/pyra
Ah yes, the xenoblade
Uhhhh alvis isnt the one who created the world....
Yeah bc Ontos triggered that transition event and the Aegis cores were only made as the managers of blades which is what Klaus did after (a) the experiment which separated him across universes and (b) remaking his own world so Ontos probably wanted to check out where his dad’s other half is and turns out he’s a god with a god mentality bc from his POV the experiment was a complete success and both sides of Klaus had world-shaping powers after the experiment no matter which side of it they ended up on. Maybe Ontos deliberately soaked up a shit ton of the conduit’s power making him way more powerful than the other processor cores giving him ultimate power over even Zanza who we don’t know how much of its power he was imbued with but since Alvis is able to overrule him it’s probably less than Alvis. Same goes for Meyneth probably idk just a wild bit of speculation.
Can you do an ending explained on Xenoblade 2 eventually plz
The Monado
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Alvis
Why not continue with shulk?
"Information gleamed from other games will be ignored"
... then what's the point? Ignoring it's origins and other important info kinda defeats the whole purpose of an "explained" video, doesn't it?
Because Xenoblade 2 is a completely separate thing yet is exactly parallel. It’s version of a monado is not the same as the powers of Alvis’ creations. Alvis was, to my knowledge, working to sync the worlds while the architect dwindled. So he’s changing things more directly, as opposed to the Architect just kinda watching.
I can be as one with all around even monotos and ai s bet that
i just ignore x and 2 entirely,they add nothing positive to 1 for me.
in that matter,i just always took it as the thing that happens is that shulk actually spawned the monado himself like the cutscene suggests,just that alvis basicly tells him "yeah,you are the most fitting of spawning the thing,so do it lol".the true monado is clear in design,which actually suggests it didnt exist before.
on another note,alvis actually also seemed pretty done of zanzas stick when he linked the power of the three swords,so he might have actually waited for the world to resolve its fate and he just noticed "yeah,thats the dude" when shulk was around.and i always just thought gods can wield whatever monado.alvis technicly didnt have a monado since he isnt the god of any specific element but rather someone who watches present and future and sets things that are already possible in the universe in motion(like linking the swords or creating the world when shulk had no idea how).
however,since he has those abilitys,he was also able to unlock monadoarts since thats already possible in the universe.he only unlocked the one that prevents shulk from getting killed,because he wanted fate to play out with as little tempering as possible.if shulk were to spawn the absolute power,he would have to earn it or the world would not be properly concluded.....or something like that.its actually harder to justify alvis not literally being the source of everything than i thought xD
Stupid me as a beginner I thought it was called minato
And a Zelda fan tried to tell me the Master Sword was superior.. Lol
T-GundamSamurai i love zelda but the master sword is so lame lmao
@@squidyouknow master sword can kill a pig.
Monado can rewrite reality.
FINALLY