Thank you for your honest review! We appreciate your feedback and we are committed to addressing the issues raised in the video in our future system upgrades.❤
The current auto-emptying period of 30 minutes is too long, especially for a fully carpeted house. I propose reducing the auto-emptying period to 15 minutes to improve the overall cleaning efficiency.
Perhaps an airflow sensor could detect if the suction is below a certain threshold percentage set by the user. Thus, the machine would go empty itself automatically. Just a thought!
@@debrunnemartin8684watch the video, it's basically a software issue that can be fixed... From the looks of it. There's no actual mechanical problem. It still does a great job but if you have a S7 Max V Ultra let's say it wouldn't be worth the upgrade right now, in my opinion... At least until they fix the software
Thank you Jamie... please could you suggest a robot vaccum for hard floor. Both vaccuming and mopping pleass. What you think I should spent my money on?
@@amanchahal216 I would have to know more about your needs and budget. Does it need to mop? Do you need object avoidance? Do you want a self empty dock? Etc.
@@jamie.andrews thank you for your response Jamie. yes please mop function as I got hard floor. no issues with budget as such. also I noticed you have not reviewed L10S pro ultra heat one. it would be great if you can compare L10s pro ultra heat vs L20 vs Q REVO.... NOT SURE HOW IMPORTANT IS HOT WATER MOPPING PAD SYSTEM
I was honestly really excited to get the S8 MaxV Ultra, seeing all the cool features it has. I was always a huge fan of Roborock, and really want to support them. But I also feel like they were getting much too expensive, with their top end robots reaching nearly $2K and mid-ends now over $1K. Sure, you need to pay for all the features they've added, but I honestly feel that most of the features aren't necessary, such as the voice control etc. That might be a huge think in China, but here, we have Alexa and Google, and if they just integrate it properly with those platforms, they don't need to work on a dedicated voice control feature. As such, the users end up paying for unnecessary or potentially useless features. I also feel like the numbers all these robot vacuum companies provide are just arbritary numbers, something they all pull out of thin air, just to one-up the competition, and they will charge you more for those higher numbers, while in reality, they probably aren't as high as they claim to be. I've never seen a single robot vacuum company show how they get those Pascal numbers, and we went from around 2000 Pa to over 10K Pa in about two years? What magical motor are these companies developing that produces these kinds of power without an increase in noise level or the physical size of the motors? It's almost nonsense. This is not a hit on Roborock, all robot vacuum companies boast this without giving substantial proof, and honestly we all fall for it.
Wow, thank you Jamie, this is why you are my favorite reviewer. I am most worried about the hair tangling as I have two dogs with long hair. I am seriously considering the X40 now. So it would be great to have a short video about comparing the X30 and the S8 MaxV Ultra. The added features of the X40 over the X30 that I found are: - Extendable and liftable Side Brush - 1200 Pa suction power - Lifts brushes when detecting a wet stain
I certainly plan to compare the X40 to this as I think they directly compete. I will have to wait for some of these issues to get worked out or the results would be predictable. Thanks for your kind words!
@@petitbarzun depends on if they can be fixed via firmware. There is no fix for a small dustbin or the dual rollers that, have weird ends for instance.
@@jamie.andrews hey Jamie do you think the old rollers of the S8 pro fit on this one? just wondering since the cutting blades are stupidly useless then if the easier to clean roller could be fit
IDK man at this price point I wouldn't expect gimmicks. Seems RoboRock thinks their fans will buy whatever they push out. I'm not convinced and it might be time to look elsewhere But your review was excellent! 👏👍 Thanx for putting in the effort to inform us!
I've had my S8 maxv for a week and can tell you it is much improved over my s7 maxv it seems quieter more responsive and does a better job of obstacle avoidance. My old s7 had a few scratchs from hitting things from what I've observed the S8 seemed more careful and I like the redesigned dock it definitely seems like a nice upgrade and yes its more attractive. Thanks for your review.
Of all the reviews on here i always prefer yours. The realistic day to day, like the flexi arm....needing to be a full house clean. No wonder it would have a longer life when its barely used ha. I have the S7 Max V and i csn sell and get one of these for about 200 extra on top of what i can sell it for. Its an upgrade in the right direction, just not a massive massive leap.
@waqasahmed939 Same, it's pretty innovative tech! They still have their kickstarter going.. it is a new company, though, so not a lot of info out there or reviews to see real performance! More cost effective than some RR models.
Finally the honest review I was expecting. Everyone too much excited for this product, but my impressions is RR is going to add new features without fixing the little downsides of the past models. What a pity! The last concrete robot from them was the S7 MaxV ultra, then they were lost… :( Thank you for the detailed and hard work, please continue to be this impartial as always.
Thanks so much! It is my hope that some of these things can be fixed through firmware updates. The S7 MaxV is one of my favorite robots from them made to date. Next I would say their Qrevo line is also great.
Fantastic and comprehensive review... Very appreciated. You notice many more detailed things than other reviewers. Please keep up the outstanding work...
EXCELLENT review! Good thing is most of these are software updates and HOPEFULLY Robo is listening! This was 2k for a 2n1 and I agree with ALL you’ve expressed in concerns or CONS
Thanks Jamie for another great review. I also have a lot of respect for RoboRock. Knowing that its navigation is rock solid (no pun intended!) is very reassuring and my respect for RoboRock put the s8 MaxV Ultra at the top of my shortlist to replace my ageing Ecovacs T8 AIVI but having seen this review, although as you say it’s by no means a bad robot, I’m now thinking that I’m very definitely going to wait until the Dreame X40 has been out long enough to have a few thorough reviews published (including yours) but right now my hunch is that it will be the X40 that I end up buying, specifically the X40 Master if I can get it in the UK because that plumbed-in docking station that integrates flush with kitchen cabinets is the neatest implementation of a dock that I’ve seen and the kitchen is where my robot’s docking station lives so it would be perfect for me.
@@jamie.andrews well it's very simple, consumers buy and then they will just return it. I did that when I paid 1400$ for the s7 and realized the drying mop feature is a big issue. Now I'm back at finding the best flagship and I thought the s8 was it but apparently I need to give the dreame x40 a better look when it's out bec that may be the one.
Excellent Review. I agree with you that $1799.00 is a price point that calls for more testing which means l will patiently wait. Those of us who use robot vacuums want reliability first and advertised elements to work out of the box. Have you seen the new Ascender that climbes stairs and cleans them too. Vacuum Wars on UA-cam says they should ship in July of 2024. Could be a game changer for two and three story homes.
Roborock has claimed to fix the issues for quite some time now, but they still haven't taken any action. Other reviews especially mention that the side brush extension works for a much shorter time compared to the Dreame X40, and some bristles do not even touch the floor. Roborock still hasn't considered fixing these errors with a firmware update. In China, Roborock faces a lot of criticism for raising prices without any innovation. It seems unlikely that they will fix the cleaning temperature this time. They will probably address these issues in the next model, as that's where the money is. Roborock is falling behind Dreame in every aspect.
I have been waiting for this review! Super detailed and backed up by facts. Was looking at your channel on the eufy s1 pro, but saw it in the video at some point :) when can we expect that video?
@@jamie.andrews Kickstarter closes in 2 days. I'd love if you could push that review out a little earlier or at least a quick opinion thus far for us Kickstarter backers.
First of all, thank you for the great and honest review! I am too quite interested about the review of the eufy S1 pro. If I may ask the to check how good the mopping feature is. Especially how really clean the floor afterwards is. Like "the hook up" guys checked the floor after mopping with a tissue. The "smarthomeassistent" sadly doesn't check the floor afterwards with a clean tissue and I am afraid the roborock just spread the dirt till you simply can't see it anymore... But it's still there. So I want to know if the eufy is really mopping the floor. Thank you for help!
Oh, and I am quite curious if the mop drying in the station is loud? Because I want to put the vacuum robot beside my couch and I am afraid it's annoyingly loud (4,5h). Thank you!
@@jamie.andrews amazing: 1. S1 mopping vs flagship competitors. 2. Ifs the 2 side brush reach to corner 3. Side brush on wet dirt - is it a problem? Like milk on the floor. 4. The water on the docking really eco clean ozone?(kill the germs). 5. How it handle cleaning the area between carpet and floor . 6. Is the Vacuum strong? I saw honest review that give it not good grade. 7. Most important - moping close to corners!
@@Kvothe-ew4rn A roller like on the S1 is for sure going to mop better than any robot dragging a cloth. Sadly it is not that simple as the tradeoff is no edge mopping and a good bit more maintenance with the S1. Keep an eye out for my video.
The feedback at 14:47 is bang on. Im actually really liking the S8 maxv, it's obstacle avoidance has been great... But removing the hair caught on the Axel is a nightmare.
Great video. One issue not mention is a bumper stuck error for no apparent reason. Will pop up in the middle of the room during a clean from the schedule or routine functions. A fix would be awesome.
Thanks for the great review. Was looking at purchasing this as I sold my S8 or the Eufy S1 pro. Think you might be getting the S1 for a review anytime soon? Love the reviews keep them coming!
The X40 is an excellent robot vacuum, but it has a bit of navigation issues that need to be ironed out. Seems Dreame rushed it out on the market before fully debugging it.
Just got the X40 and love it. It was weird at first during mapping it kept dropping the one mop as if it wasn’t energized but then I fixed it by rebooting the robot. Strange. However as compared to my Eufy X10 pro it’s like night and day. It’s quieter and you can tell the servos and quality of components used are higher grade not to mention it is lower so it fits better under things. The side mopping is absolutely amazing and my kitchen and dining room is so much more clean. Even the mopping is quieter and better consistency with wetness across the operation. It doesn’t crazy empty as many times as the X10 and the empty is literally half the noise. Well done. It’s a keeper for sure and the water tanks are larger which helps a ton for my household.
Love your videos especially the detailed temperature checks of the water cleaning and air drying. So disappointing that roborocks temperature figures are so wildly off. Can't wait to see a similar review of the Revo maxv
Yes. The failure to hit the water temperature target was probably the most disappointing issue for me mainly because all the other issues did look like ones that could be fixed in firmware but with water heating I have some doubts. Jamie did mention how the power consumption of the dock fell off quite quickly so maybe there is hope that just keeping the heating element active for longer might be a software fix. I would hope that RoboRock would give this a high priority since they are promoting the hot mop washing temperature quite strongly. I really hope their “fix” isn’t to just change the marketing materials to show a lower temperature!
Thank you for your review, i have s7 maxv ultra and about to trade it in for this newer model, but after watching your review i think ill save my money and keep my s7 as its still working great
Great review. I've used several brands of robot vacs, including iRobot and Roborock beats them all. And no, I wasn't paid to write this. It's just a consistently good product. I'm currently using the S7 Max and won't be replacing it with this one. The S7 Max is still perfectly fine and . . . 1700 bucks? No.
Nice review dude, very thourough. So, in conclusion, it's not PERFECT. But is it still not the best out there? I'm seriously considering picking this up shortly, and frankly just want the very best.
Once the Dreame X40 comes out we will have to see. The closest robot I have reviewed that comes close to this is the Dreame X30. I have a review for that on my channel. ua-cam.com/video/XLLiOqt79Qc/v-deo.html
Regarding some of the software related cons. I've got to say Roborock is fairly good about pushing updates to fix things. They definitely utilize feedback which is great! I'm still rocking my S7MVU and S8PU. Quite enjoying both 🙂
@@Sun.n.Flowers I got the S7 Maxv at release so it has been around for 2 years now. One of my favorite robots ever made. I doubt it will ever leave my home, but then again not many robots do. I keep them for comparisons.
@@Sun.n.Flowers For me, I got the S7 MaxV Ultra in November of 22'. Best money I've ever spent cause it paid for itself within several months, compared to the cleaning maid service. When the S8 Pro Ultra came out I waited about a week to check some reviews of it, one of which was from Jamie's channel, then ended up getting it. Since the S7MVU was better at cleaning hard surfaces and the S8PU was better for carpet cleaning, according to multiple reviews. I put R2 (the S7MVU) downstairs since it had less carpet/rug coverage and R5 (S8PU) upstairs. Once I got the map/rooms set up with all of the no-go zones, I only have to deal with either of them once a week, a maximum of two times if I need to clean them up. Overall, I am very happy with both. If I had the money and know what I do now, I would have bought two S7MVUs at the same time. I do miss being able to check around the house with the remote viewing with the S8PU and being able to view what was avoided in an actual picture instead of an icon on the map of what the software thinks it is avoiding. Hopefully, soonish, I'll be remodeling a bathroom upstairs (I forgot to mention this was the main floor), and I might consider getting the version of the S8 MaxV Ultra so I can connect it to a water line and drainage. I might utilize the trade-in for the S8PU for the newer one with the drainage/water hookup unless they require sending it back in the original box cause I don't have it anymore. One thing I will admit, though, is that any of them will make you more aware of what you leave on the floor. I've had both get too close to shoes and get tangled with the shoe laces. Then, the robot spins around in circles for a few minutes, trying to get untangled. But then it stops and throws out an error out of frustration. xD
Thank you for another excellent review! I will hold off on upgrading my S8 Pro Ultra. The auto-emptying is too long, and I don't want a decrease in the water tank's amount, so I will pass. It is not worth the upgrade to me. I'm thrilled with my S8 Pro Ultra; however, I was waiting on your review to see if I'd make the purchase.
Great review. I've been looking forward to your review to see if it's worth upgrading, expecially with the trade-in program. However some of the new features sound better on paper than in reality. I think I'll hang on to my S7 Max Ultra and see what the S9 Max Ultra or S9 MaxV Ultra have to offer maybe next year. Thanks for the review and keep up the excellent work.
The S7 Max Ultra is still new enough that you could wait for the next generation or wait for the bugs to get hopefully resolved and then buy on a black Friday sale.
Thanks Jamie for your unbiased review. The Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra is our 1st robot purchase, based on your experience do you think Roborock will make the improvements you suggested in the firmware? We have just received ours and have a month to decide if this is the best vacuum/mop for our use. Also we are complete newbies, is there an in-depth video of the Roborock app to explain the options available?
It is my expierance that they will improve based on my findings. That does take time though. I have a general app overview video I did a few years ago. It is fairly outdated now, but may still help some. ua-cam.com/video/WE2NeBJseoc/v-deo.htmlsi=D7PNXUx146DZ8u6T
Thank you for your response, Jamie. I would like to have a mop function for my hard floors, and my budget is not an issue. Object avoidance is a must-have feature, and I also need a self-empty dock. While checking the available models, I saw that you haven't reviewed the L10S Pro Ultra Heat yet. Can you please compare it with the L20 and Q REVO models, and also with the S8 Pro Ultra? I'm not sure how important the hot water mopping pad system is. For your information, I'm from Australia, so the Dreame X30 model is not available here. I'm feeling confused about which robot vacuum model to purchase. Initially, I was interested in the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra, but I found out that it doesn't come with rotating pads. I'm not sure if it can mop well without them. Therefore, I am also considering the L10s Pro Ultra Heat, which has rotating pads and an extendable mopping edge. However, since there aren't many reviews available for this model, I am concerned about its navigation system and detection capabilities. It would be really helpful if you could review the L10s Pro Ultra Heat for me.
Sadly we don't get many of the same models here in the US. I have reviews the L10s Ultra and also have a comparison video with it and the Qrevo. I will soon have a video out on the Qrevo MaxV along with the Eufy S1 Pro.
@@jamie.andrews Thank you Jamie. I wait for QREVO MAX VIDEO. :) .. any suggestion what can i buy (as per USA availaibilty) ? also how important is hot water pad cleaning? L20 does not have hot water function but its suction power and battery is better than l10s heat one
@@amanchahal216 I addressed this topic in my last 2 videos including this one. Personally I think hot water mop washing is not that effective unless you are dealing with grease on the floors. amzn.to/3w7Daj1
rotating pads have been proved to be only marginally better in speciifc cases only than vibrating plates. You can compare this video with the Q revo maxv.
Great review, as always ! It would be so great if you could also compare Robots vacuum performances at iso-decibels. Max power mode is always good to know, but as it drains more battery and bleeds ears, that's only on side of the story in my opinion (especially since they catch almost everything, I don't see it as a distinguishing factor).
Absolutely in fact I just got the first one today. Now I am frantically retesting to see if it fixed anything. So far no on the side brush as far as coming out under cabinets on a room cleaning it still does not and it is still delayed coming out on some corners. Hot water is stl non existent.
@@jamie.andrews yeah, especially with the price it charges $1.8k, people expect the best. If this thing is around $1.2k, is much more reasonable with current state
Wow Jamie, what an excellent review! (and editing) Think I'll pass on this almost $2,000 robot (after taxes). Biggest deal breaker for me is that difficult hair removal on the main brushes. It's so much easier on the older models. An easy fix for the full dust bin is simply to put a timer in the app. You could pick how often to empty if you think there is a lot of material to pick up. Set for five, ten, or whatever minutes. Hear this Roborock!??
Thanks for the great review once again. Sadly the entire Roborock S8 series has been flawed from the get-go.. especially the S8 Pro Ultra was a major let down. The Q Revo is still by far their best robot vacuum in terms of price performance.
Great review, I'm looking forward to seeing more about the new Q revo models, I like that design a bit better. As far as the hot water mop washing, sounds like the dock is turning off the heating element too soon, I would think the best way to handle this is to leave it on throughout the mop wash cycle. Hopefully the issue of only emptying every 30 minutes in the vacuum and mop mode can be fixed with a software update. The Eufy X10 pro and several Ecovacs models allow you to have the robot self empty after a certain length of time in the vacuum only mode.
Thanks! Yes the heater needs to stay on longer or come on more frequently. Both things you spoke about can be fixed with firmware updates. QRevo reviews should be out in May.
@@jamie.andrews hi Jamie, will your QRevo review come out soon? Mid year sales are coming up and I want to know if it's worth getting the new QRevo Max V or stay with the old Q Revo.
Great review and as always very thorough! I think the price is a good bit more than I’d be willing to pay without enough enhancements over my less than 2 years old S7 Max V . But I did note that the Eufy S1 Pro was visible in one of the pics of the dock! Very excited about that unit with a completely new mopping system and relatively aggressive price. When can we expect that review??? There are many out today from unheard of and non-trusted sources, so looking for a review from a pro, preferably while still available on the kickstarter pricing!
Thanks for the detailed review Jamie! I was on the fence between this and the X40 Ultra. Seems as if the X40 Ultra is the way to go. But looking forward to your review of that model! Do you know about when you'll be able to review that one?
To all the idiots praising Vacuum Wars religiously, learn what a proper review is with this video. One thing i would add is some stains next to the edge to see how well does the edge mopping works
The review I've been waiting for!! I came to your channel looking for it yesterday! I enjoy your honest, thorough reviews! Thank you. Cant wait to see a comparison and testing video between this RR model, the new S8 Max Ultra vs the X30 vs the x40. That would be the battle of the latest robot competition.
@jamie.andrews Awesome! Do you think the new S8 Max Ultra is worth it or the latest Q Revo ? I want to upgrade and am between these 8 series or the S7 Max (although I really don't want a camera) . I honestly am considering taking the plunge for either series. I have an S7 (regular dock, not S7+ ), but after getting wrapped in a chord one of wheels broke so I have been without a vacuum. I wanted to wait till black Friday sales, but really need a new vac and the 3-5 yr warranty sounded helpful.
In watching the robot in a corner or near an edge, it is surprising that the only solution to gather debris is to reach it's flingly arm out a bit. While this could work, it would seem just as likely to fling the debris the wrong direction. Ideally, another vacuum arm/tube would work better, assuming it would be feasible.
Bought this and waiting to set it up. Do you feel these issues you’ve found will potentially all be fixed with a software update? I may return during the return period if I’m not happy. Thank you for the review! It’s my first robot vacuum so I am excited!
That is my expectation based on my previous expieranced with Roborock. They really care about these things. I got a new firmware just today and now I am going back and testing.
I have this model and love it overall - However, I experience that it does NOT empty the dustbin automatically every time, although cleaning cycle has ended. Seems like too much dust in the dustbin blocks the auto-empty function.
Good review, thank you! I'm glad they are adding the a silver ion block in the clean water tank. It's very disappointing the flexiarm does not clean corners well and does not extend under counter tops. I'm not sure I want to participate in the buy back program now. 😢
I was a bit shocked by this as well, however I feel they will optimize it through firmware since I am sure I won't be the only one to give them this feedback.
Does the flexi arm work while the vacuum is on a runner ? I have runners in the kitchen so it would be great if it the arm comes out while the vacuum is on the runner. This would be nice to have. I saw the video and it’s not working. But something to work on for Roborock.
Great review, I’ve been waiting on exactly this! Can you comment on how quickly the bag fills up? On average (non testing) runs, can you estimate how many can be done before the bag is full and needs to be thrown out? Curious how much the bags can really hold. Thanks!!
The bag is unchanged in size from the previous models at 2.5 litter and how fast it will fill will vary house to house. Roborock say 6 to 7 weeks, but again that depends on the total square footage of the home, how many carpets vs hard floors and how many pets. Pets have a huge impact on the especially long hair pets. I honestly never fill one because I have moved on to the next robot to test right after this one.
7:21 - Looks like the LIDAR beam is actually hitting the cabinet doors so it probably thinks it's too close which is perhaps why it retracts the brush?
Lidar hitting the cabinet is not the problem here or the robot would be able to get under the cabinet and thus not have the need for a swing out side brush. It would be like riding beside any wall. The robot has a side sensor on it to tell it how far the wall is away from the robot. It uses this along with the lidar to tell the robot that there is a cabinet base there. If you look at my Dreame X30 video you can see when it gets to the same cabinets it can tell there is a cabinet and it will start a wiggle motion to get the pad all the way under the cabinet. This is how the S8 MaxV should work as well just with the side brush.
Dreame X40 Ultra is destroying the Roborock and I have a Roborock S7 maxV. Lasted exactly 1 year at 1300 dollars Won't make that mistake again. Called to get it repaired or replaced and have been getting the run around
Hi Jamie Thank you for the honest review. I have been waiting for this one to see if I finally upgrade my (non dock) S7. Based on what’s out there right now, what is your recommendation for the very best vacuum and dock. Tiles and carpet. Assume no budget limit. Is it one of the new Dreame’s? Like the l30 or x40. Should I wait for the revo maxv and your review? Seems to me from your reviews that Dreame might be the better option right now (even though I like the Roborock software). Interested in your views! Thanks again. David
Thanks Jamie for responding so quickly. I did see the x30 review which looks like the best out there right now. I suppose I should wait to see a review from you of the x40 and qrevo maxv. Any idea when you are likely to receive units for review? I should note, btw, I’ll be donating to your channel as a thanks for the excellent work you do - please keep it up!
@@davidandvickie First off thanks for the support! I have the Qrevo MaxV now, but it will be a bit before the review comes out. Should be in May. The X40 is in transit from far away.
Dude. I know. This was one of the hardest video reviews to make. I hate saying bad things about any company and their products, but I have faith that Roborock will fix these and hopefully very soon.
@@jamie.andrews yeah. I was surprised to see the Dual Rollers doing well on hard floors! If only they increased the bin size... I feel the Q Revo MaxV will be a better robot overall, regardless of price! Hopefully Roborock will switch from pads to mop rollers like the Eufy S1!
@@MrBlueCreeper The bin size would be OK for most if it could just return to the dock to empty. I guess they are scared of Amazon and iRobot? Everyone is talking about the S1 Pro non stop. It is an impressive mop, but there are tradeoffs like most things. You know I will highlight the good and bad.
Wow, I saw your review and was a bit shocked from all the cons you've mentioned. I have the S7 with the dust container. since 2021. I have 2 pets (a dog and a cat). I turn it on everyday and it comes back with a lot of dirt. All in all, it does a good job. Do you think it's worth keeping or should you recommaned to upgrade it to S8 maxv, considering the price and the cons? I was hoping the S8 maxV will avoid cabels, but in your review it didn't. What is your honest opinion? To stick with the S7 or replace it? Anf if so, to what? Thx a lot!!
The S7 is a great robot. It really depends on your needs and wants with the upgrade. You mentioned object avoidance, but the MaxV gives way more upgrades than just that over the S7. While the MaxV is not great with cords the S7 does not have built in object avoidance so the S8 MaxV will still be an upgrade. You may also want to look at the Qrevo models. I just put a video out comparing a few of them. ua-cam.com/video/iSMqTKFj-aQ/v-deo.html
I'm unsure between this and the new Dreame X40 Ultra. After years of waiting, I will buy my first robot vacuum cleaner. I'm being careful and I'm still waiting for the reviews for these two models now.
Jamie, I have the s8 maxV ultra but have remodeled areas of my home and would like to now use the drain and refill dock. Is it possible to buy that dock by itself?
Did Roborok answer you to all the problems you identified? And if so, when to wait for their correction? Can all problems be fixed only by updating the robot or base through the robot? And how are things with the brush module, they say the s8 pro ultra had problems with the airflow, which caused the power to be lost, have you noticed this in the new robot?
Roborock stared the would work to fix the issues. Most could be fixed via firmware update. This has a much larger vacuum motor so it has been pretty good compared to the S8 Pro.
Hi Jamie, is there a way for the Roborock to only vacuum the carpet, then return to dock and empty the dust bin? Do you think you will have the Dreame 40 reviewed before the early bird offer ends on 19th May. I saw you chose the previous Dreame models as really good choices, thanks in advance!
Not at this moment. It will only empty after 30 minutes and only in vacuum and mop mode. I am still waiting on the X40 so no unfortunately I won't have a video out by then.
I was hoping to see auto-empty detection on this and other new Roborock models as I understood that Roomba's patent on this had expired in the same way their dual roller one had?
How easily is the dock cleaning on this compared to the S7 MaxV? I thought I read something about this new dock have self-cleaning ability but that sounds a bit off. Maybe it just means it can dry which helps avoid water sitting around getting gross.
Well then the most expensive one I have reviewed is the Dreame X40 Ultra with a retail price of $1900 lol. I'll have the video you are asking about planned to be released around black Friday.
I expect most things to get resolved with firmware updates. I wish they fixed them before they started on sale which is why I went ahead and released this video.
Me gustó mucho el test realizado al S8 MaxV Ultra de Roborock. Me gustaría que hiciera una review y diera sus consideraciones acerca de la Samsung Bespoke JetBot Combo presentada en este año. Saludos.
Jamie: Did you encounter issues when there was a rug in the room that had mostly hard surface in vacuum only mode ? I have a tile floor with a low pile rug under the sofa/coffee table. The robot does a normal perimeter run fine driving over the tile and rug tearing them as a single surface(carpet boost occurs she in the rug) Then it starts the interior cleaning. However, once the rug is encountered again, the robot starts wiggling its way along the edge of the carpet and does a complete perimeter run of the rug and full cleans the rug only. Then the robot returns to the tile floor and cleans the remaining portions of the tile that is left. The carpet setting is on rise which should be irrelevant in vacuum only mode but it appears that it defaults to mopping behavior when the rug is encountered in vacuum only mode. This is a major waste of time and I really do not like the rug edge cleaning as it the robot goes very slow wiggling g it way along the edge and chews on the rug edge a bit. I found it did the same thing in a room that had mostly carpet and a small marble hearth around a fireplace. When it was cleaning and drove onto the hearth, all was fine. But as soon as it re-encountered the carpet, it did a complete room permitter run again (as room is mostly carpet)before resuming cleaning. This was reported to Roborock. From my experience so far, the robot is ridden with software issues.
You may have the option on that says clean carpets first under carpet settings. I agree it should only do this on a mopping mode and not vacuum only mode, but I forgot to report that bug. I noticed sometimes it would appear to clean the edges of my rugs and other times not. I wish you could turn that feature off as it turns up the edges of my runner. Too many issues with the robot right now.
Thanks Jamie. I don’t have any of the other options enabled. The vacuum only mode simply is broken. In vacuum only mode, it should treat all surfaces (tile/wood/rugs/carpet) as one surface and just vacuum assuming you don’t have any options set (vacuum carpets first or after). The entire carpet menu is at this point is tied directly to mopping. In fact, at the very bottom of the the apps Carpet page in light font, it says “when the mop bracket is installed” which is always since it’s not removable. Bewildering how the basic vacuum functionality is broken.
@@Firebat- Yea I just noticed that about the mop pad attachment. That was a problem on the S8 Pro Ultra too and they fixed the working about the attached mop bracket. I'll report that and test to see if mine is doing the same as yours with carpet. I have direct channels to report these issue.
@@Firebat- Make sure you are on the latest firmware. I tested and mine does not vaccum carpets first in vaccum only mode with the setting turned off. If I turn on the vaccum carpets first it will vacuum the carpet first. I agree it should only obey this setting when in vacuum and mop mode and not vacuum only mode.
Thanks Jamie. It’s running the latest firmware. It actually doesn’t vacuum the carpet first. It does a perimeter room run (including crossing carpet/rug) and all is fine. It isn’t until during the room cleaning that it encounters the carpet again that it’stops and vacuums the rug completely including the aggressive rug edge cleaning. Then it resume cleaning the rest of the hard surface once the rug cleaning is completed(and that is what RISE says it does with the mopping bracket is attached). This is repeatable and the Q Revo MaxV behaves exactly the same. So it’s something with the firmware in the new models and Roborock not accounting for vacuum only mode. I believe Roborock thinks everyone use mop and vac at the same time and isn’t focusing on vacuum only. That would be the correct behavior if mopping at the same time. I typically use vacuum only most of the time and leads to another annoyance of the app always ending up back in mop and vac..thus requiring routines to be created to simplify things. But as of now, I find the robot not usable until they fix the rug issues in vacuum only mode (and make the aggressive edge cleaning and option as you mentioned). Otherwise the robot will damage some expensive rugs.
What’s your opinion on the mop feature in regards to light spills and stains? I currently have a Roborock S4 and mop once a month. I take care of hard spills right away, but stuff like water drops and foot prints, I leave till the end of the month to mop. Would the mop feature of the S8 MaxV Ultra eliminate these small water or footprint stains on the floor? Would like to upgrade if it can eliminate the manual mop all together since my entire house is vinyl flooring!
While can't can't really say if it would remove it I can say the mopping system is pretty good. I would say it should handle most of your cleaning needs. I hardly ever mop with anything but a robot.
Hey, im very happy i came across your review, answers every question one could have. I currently have the roomba s9+ since 2019, its not very good at avoiding objects and im due for an upgrade. Curious what product youd consider as the best on the market. The roborock promo for a 5 year warranty and additional wet mop is enticing and the QRevo looks to only have 7000 Pa suction, do you think that would be superior or have any recommendation of the top robot available, the self changing water is a must for me, thanks!!
I have not tested the Q Revo Maxv just yet, but you may want to watch some of my reviews on the Dreame X30 and L20 Ultra. ua-cam.com/video/rrdLbQDQwCo/v-deo.htmlsi=QkwsvBzUvHDZ-ZfR
@jamie.andrews just watched that review, no surprise another great one sir. It feels like the dreame is superior, which I would then go x40 but from what I see online the dreame support is nit great. Curious of your take on that as roborock may not be flawless right now but from what you said they have great support and a 5 year warranty, it's quite the dilemma lol..thank you for the great videos, you've made me really have to think here
@@tommyboy3121 I hear that often about Dreame and honestly I hear it too about Roborock, just not as much. I have all the Dreame products and have not had any issues with them. I think it has a lot to do with the duty cycles and how well people take care of them. I don't use one long enough to really be a good judge though.
Thank you for your honest review! We appreciate your feedback and we are committed to addressing the issues raised in the video in our future system upgrades.❤
It is my pleasure. I know you all will fix these issues and make the product better.
The current auto-emptying period of 30 minutes is too long, especially for a fully carpeted house. I propose reducing the auto-emptying period to 15 minutes to improve the overall cleaning efficiency.
Perhaps an airflow sensor could detect if the suction is below a certain threshold percentage set by the user. Thus, the machine would go empty itself automatically.
Just a thought!
Hello, could you tell us about this issues ? All S8 MaxV ultra EU too ?
@@debrunnemartin8684watch the video, it's basically a software issue that can be fixed... From the looks of it. There's no actual mechanical problem. It still does a great job but if you have a S7 Max V Ultra let's say it wouldn't be worth the upgrade right now, in my opinion... At least until they fix the software
Nothing like a Honest opinion, thank you
Thanks.
Thank you Jamie! You are the one I go to for true reviews of these robots, we trust your judgment and thank you !
Thank you Jamie... please could you suggest a robot vaccum for hard floor. Both vaccuming and mopping pleass. What you think I should spent my money on?
@@amanchahal216 I would have to know more about your needs and budget. Does it need to mop? Do you need object avoidance? Do you want a self empty dock? Etc.
@@jamie.andrews thank you for your response Jamie. yes please mop function as I got hard floor. no issues with budget as such. also I noticed you have not reviewed L10S pro ultra heat one. it would be great if you can compare L10s pro ultra heat vs L20 vs Q REVO.... NOT SURE HOW IMPORTANT IS HOT WATER MOPPING PAD SYSTEM
The best and unbiased reviews on UA-cam.
oh man... your first line really sets the tone for the video... i guess it mostly works
can't wait for the Revo MaxV review
Coming soon!
I was honestly really excited to get the S8 MaxV Ultra, seeing all the cool features it has. I was always a huge fan of Roborock, and really want to support them. But I also feel like they were getting much too expensive, with their top end robots reaching nearly $2K and mid-ends now over $1K. Sure, you need to pay for all the features they've added, but I honestly feel that most of the features aren't necessary, such as the voice control etc. That might be a huge think in China, but here, we have Alexa and Google, and if they just integrate it properly with those platforms, they don't need to work on a dedicated voice control feature. As such, the users end up paying for unnecessary or potentially useless features. I also feel like the numbers all these robot vacuum companies provide are just arbritary numbers, something they all pull out of thin air, just to one-up the competition, and they will charge you more for those higher numbers, while in reality, they probably aren't as high as they claim to be. I've never seen a single robot vacuum company show how they get those Pascal numbers, and we went from around 2000 Pa to over 10K Pa in about two years? What magical motor are these companies developing that produces these kinds of power without an increase in noise level or the physical size of the motors? It's almost nonsense. This is not a hit on Roborock, all robot vacuum companies boast this without giving substantial proof, and honestly we all fall for it.
Agree on all points! Great take.
Meanwhile there is dyson, who has done great at improving the vacuum but hardly improved the robotic aspects.
Sighs
Wow, thank you Jamie, this is why you are my favorite reviewer. I am most worried about the hair tangling as I have two dogs with long hair. I am seriously considering the X40 now. So it would be great to have a short video about comparing the X30 and the S8 MaxV Ultra.
The added features of the X40 over the X30 that I found are:
- Extendable and liftable Side Brush
- 1200 Pa suction power
- Lifts brushes when detecting a wet stain
I certainly plan to compare the X40 to this as I think they directly compete. I will have to wait for some of these issues to get worked out or the results would be predictable. Thanks for your kind words!
@@jamie.andrews do you think they can fix the hardware issues?
@@petitbarzun depends on if they can be fixed via firmware. There is no fix for a small dustbin or the dual rollers that, have weird ends for instance.
@@jamie.andrews hey Jamie do you think the old rollers of the S8 pro fit on this one? just wondering since the cutting blades are stupidly useless then if the easier to clean roller could be fit
@@xeon2k8 I tried and no they don't. Totally different design in the roller deck.
The channel I been waiting for to review the new roborock! 🙌🏾
Hope you enjoyed it!
IDK man at this price point I wouldn't expect gimmicks. Seems RoboRock thinks their fans will buy whatever they push out. I'm not convinced and it might be time to look elsewhere
But your review was excellent! 👏👍 Thanx for putting in the effort to inform us!
It feels to me that all manufacturers are doing this now.
This is getting ridiculous. In China, the S8 MaxV price is about $700 (tax included). Here it is more than $1900 after tax.
Its not worth the price unless it cleans spotless in every corner and no hair tangled around brushes
I've had my S8 maxv for a week and can tell you it is much improved over my s7 maxv it seems quieter more responsive and does a better job of obstacle avoidance. My old s7 had a few scratchs from hitting things from what I've observed the S8 seemed more careful and I like the redesigned dock it definitely seems like a nice upgrade and yes its more attractive. Thanks for your review.
Great video, covering in detail all the important factors good and bad! Happily keeping S7 MaxV with water refill system for the time being.
I love the little details that you point out when using the robot. Awesome review.
Thanks!
Of all the reviews on here i always prefer yours. The realistic day to day, like the flexi arm....needing to be a full house clean. No wonder it would have a longer life when its barely used ha.
I have the S7 Max V and i csn sell and get one of these for about 200 extra on top of what i can sell it for. Its an upgrade in the right direction, just not a massive massive leap.
I'd love to see this go head to head with the Migo Ascender too
@waqasahmed939 Same, it's pretty innovative tech! They still have their kickstarter going.. it is a new company, though, so not a lot of info out there or reviews to see real performance! More cost effective than some RR models.
@@Sun.n.Flowersthanks for talking about this I had no idea and now I really want to support it!
Finally the honest review I was expecting. Everyone too much excited for this product, but my impressions is RR is going to add new features without fixing the little downsides of the past models. What a pity!
The last concrete robot from them was the S7 MaxV ultra, then they were lost… :(
Thank you for the detailed and hard work, please continue to be this impartial as always.
Thanks so much! It is my hope that some of these things can be fixed through firmware updates. The S7 MaxV is one of my favorite robots from them made to date. Next I would say their Qrevo line is also great.
The best video of an robot vacuum ever seen. I think you are an engineer. Bravo mate.
Wow, thanks!
Fantastic and comprehensive review... Very appreciated. You notice many more detailed things than other reviewers. Please keep up the outstanding work...
Much appreciated!
Finally!! When I get home I'll watch asap🥳🥳
Yes i agree it is a very good robot but i hope they fix some of the issues. Like incresing the strengh on the side brush
It needs to be used more. I don't know about your house but most of my corners have something in them so a robot can get in them at all.
Yes we have a more modern design on our froorboards so it may be able to work im our house
EXCELLENT review! Good thing is most of these are software updates and HOPEFULLY Robo is listening! This was 2k for a 2n1 and I agree with ALL you’ve expressed in concerns or CONS
This is such an amazingly detailed review. Thank you so much! ❤
You are so welcome!
I’m glad I went with the Dreame X30 instead. Best robot vacuum I have used. Great review!
Thanks 👍
Thanks Jamie for another great review. I also have a lot of respect for RoboRock. Knowing that its navigation is rock solid (no pun intended!) is very reassuring and my respect for RoboRock put the s8 MaxV Ultra at the top of my shortlist to replace my ageing Ecovacs T8 AIVI but having seen this review, although as you say it’s by no means a bad robot, I’m now thinking that I’m very definitely going to wait until the Dreame X40 has been out long enough to have a few thorough reviews published (including yours) but right now my hunch is that it will be the X40 that I end up buying, specifically the X40 Master if I can get it in the UK because that plumbed-in docking station that integrates flush with kitchen cabinets is the neatest implementation of a dock that I’ve seen and the kitchen is where my robot’s docking station lives so it would be perfect for me.
I love your videos, they're just so informative and clear, thank you
Glad you like them!
Reviews like this give us hope that watching reviews is worthwhile. There's too many biased and fake reviews.
Thanks! That means a lot to me. I was just watching iJustine's review which is paid and it was horrible. Those paid fake reviews cost the consumer.
@@jamie.andrews well it's very simple, consumers buy and then they will just return it. I did that when I paid 1400$ for the s7 and realized the drying mop feature is a big issue. Now I'm back at finding the best flagship and I thought the s8 was it but apparently I need to give the dreame x40 a better look when it's out bec that may be the one.
downsides are better than channels that dont really review and keep companies from improving !! you are awesome !!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for the review. Will 100% be holding off on upgrading my S7 and S8.
Can’t wait for your Q Revo MaxV review!!
Excellent Review. I agree with you that $1799.00 is a price point that calls for more testing which means l will patiently wait. Those of us who use robot vacuums want reliability first and advertised elements to work out of the box. Have you seen the new Ascender that climbes stairs and cleans them too. Vacuum Wars on UA-cam says they should ship in July of 2024. Could be a game changer for two and three story homes.
Yea I did see that and will be sure to check it out!
Roborock has claimed to fix the issues for quite some time now, but they still haven't taken any action. Other reviews especially mention that the side brush extension works for a much shorter time compared to the Dreame X40, and some bristles do not even touch the floor. Roborock still hasn't considered fixing these errors with a firmware update. In China, Roborock faces a lot of criticism for raising prices without any innovation. It seems unlikely that they will fix the cleaning temperature this time. They will probably address these issues in the next model, as that's where the money is. Roborock is falling behind Dreame in every aspect.
I have been waiting for this review! Super detailed and backed up by facts. Was looking at your channel on the eufy s1 pro, but saw it in the video at some point :) when can we expect that video?
Should be out next week.
@@jamie.andrews Kickstarter closes in 2 days. I'd love if you could push that review out a little earlier or at least a quick opinion thus far for us Kickstarter backers.
@@LilithTitan I hope to have it out Monday or the latest Tuesday morning. I know that is tight but it should be out before the kickstarter ends.
Thanks for honest and professional review, hope the eufy s1 pro review will go out before the campaign over
I'm trying to get it out before it is over. Any questions about it?
First of all, thank you for the great and honest review! I am too quite interested about the review of the eufy S1 pro.
If I may ask the to check how good the mopping feature is. Especially how really clean the floor afterwards is. Like "the hook up" guys checked the floor after mopping with a tissue. The "smarthomeassistent" sadly doesn't check the floor afterwards with a clean tissue and I am afraid the roborock just spread the dirt till you simply can't see it anymore... But it's still there. So I want to know if the eufy is really mopping the floor.
Thank you for help!
Oh, and I am quite curious if the mop drying in the station is loud? Because I want to put the vacuum robot beside my couch and I am afraid it's annoyingly loud (4,5h). Thank you!
@@jamie.andrews amazing: 1. S1 mopping vs flagship competitors. 2. Ifs the 2 side brush reach to corner 3. Side brush on wet dirt - is it a problem? Like milk on the floor. 4. The water on the docking really eco clean ozone?(kill the germs). 5. How it handle cleaning the area between carpet and floor . 6. Is the Vacuum strong? I saw honest review that give it not good grade. 7. Most important - moping close to corners!
@@Kvothe-ew4rn A roller like on the S1 is for sure going to mop better than any robot dragging a cloth. Sadly it is not that simple as the tradeoff is no edge mopping and a good bit more maintenance with the S1. Keep an eye out for my video.
The feedback at 14:47 is bang on. Im actually really liking the S8 maxv, it's obstacle avoidance has been great... But removing the hair caught on the Axel is a nightmare.
Yea that is a poor design.
Great video. One issue not mention is a bumper stuck error for no apparent reason. Will pop up in the middle of the room during a clean from the schedule or routine functions. A fix would be awesome.
First I have heard of that. Can you post your issue on the Roborock Reddit?
Thanks for the great review. Was looking at purchasing this as I sold my S8 or the Eufy S1 pro. Think you might be getting the S1 for a review anytime soon? Love the reviews keep them coming!
I am trying to get the S1 review out by next week.
Thanks for the review. I went with the X40.
Let me know how you like it. I should be getting mine soon.
The X40 is an excellent robot vacuum, but it has a bit of navigation issues that need to be ironed out. Seems Dreame rushed it out on the market before fully debugging it.
@@galapiat Good to know. They has navigation issues with the X30 when it came out too but quickly fixed them.
@@galapiatit's good to know that roborock isn't the only ones that have some software issues to fix.. it makes my copium feel better 😂
Just got the X40 and love it. It was weird at first during mapping it kept dropping the one mop as if it wasn’t energized but then I fixed it by rebooting the robot. Strange. However as compared to my Eufy X10 pro it’s like night and day. It’s quieter and you can tell the servos and quality of components used are higher grade not to mention it is lower so it fits better under things. The side mopping is absolutely amazing and my kitchen and dining room is so much more clean. Even the mopping is quieter and better consistency with wetness across the operation. It doesn’t crazy empty as many times as the X10 and the empty is literally half the noise. Well done. It’s a keeper for sure and the water tanks are larger which helps a ton for my household.
Love your videos especially the detailed temperature checks of the water cleaning and air drying. So disappointing that roborocks temperature figures are so wildly off. Can't wait to see a similar review of the Revo maxv
Yes. The failure to hit the water temperature target was probably the most disappointing issue for me mainly because all the other issues did look like ones that could be fixed in firmware but with water heating I have some doubts. Jamie did mention how the power consumption of the dock fell off quite quickly so maybe there is hope that just keeping the heating element active for longer might be a software fix. I would hope that RoboRock would give this a high priority since they are promoting the hot mop washing temperature quite strongly. I really hope their “fix” isn’t to just change the marketing materials to show a lower temperature!
Thank you for your review, i have s7 maxv ultra and about to trade it in for this newer model, but after watching your review i think ill save my money and keep my s7 as its still working great
There is nothing wrong with that robot. It is one of my favorite machines to date.
Great review. I've used several brands of robot vacs, including iRobot and Roborock beats them all. And no, I wasn't paid to write this. It's just a consistently good product. I'm currently using the S7 Max and won't be replacing it with this one. The S7 Max is still perfectly fine and . . . 1700 bucks? No.
Thanks for sharing. Roborock is actually better than this. Your S7 Max robot and your prior expierance stands to prove that fact.
Nice review dude, very thourough. So, in conclusion, it's not PERFECT. But is it still not the best out there? I'm seriously considering picking this up shortly, and frankly just want the very best.
Once the Dreame X40 comes out we will have to see. The closest robot I have reviewed that comes close to this is the Dreame X30. I have a review for that on my channel. ua-cam.com/video/XLLiOqt79Qc/v-deo.html
@@jamie.andrews Personal preference? Or toss up?
@@nicolaskeith8945 what do you mean?
Regarding some of the software related cons. I've got to say Roborock is fairly good about pushing updates to fix things. They definitely utilize feedback which is great!
I'm still rocking my S7MVU and S8PU. Quite enjoying both 🙂
Yes they are. I remember some issues with the S7 Maxv when it first came out. I just wish they were fixed by now.
How long have you had both or your vacs for?
* If you had to do it all over again, which model would you choose over the other?
@@Sun.n.Flowers I got the S7 Maxv at release so it has been around for 2 years now. One of my favorite robots ever made. I doubt it will ever leave my home, but then again not many robots do. I keep them for comparisons.
@@Sun.n.Flowers For me, I got the S7 MaxV Ultra in November of 22'. Best money I've ever spent cause it paid for itself within several months, compared to the cleaning maid service.
When the S8 Pro Ultra came out I waited about a week to check some reviews of it, one of which was from Jamie's channel, then ended up getting it.
Since the S7MVU was better at cleaning hard surfaces and the S8PU was better for carpet cleaning, according to multiple reviews. I put R2 (the S7MVU) downstairs since it had less carpet/rug coverage and R5 (S8PU) upstairs.
Once I got the map/rooms set up with all of the no-go zones, I only have to deal with either of them once a week, a maximum of two times if I need to clean them up. Overall, I am very happy with both.
If I had the money and know what I do now, I would have bought two S7MVUs at the same time. I do miss being able to check around the house with the remote viewing with the S8PU and being able to view what was avoided in an actual picture instead of an icon on the map of what the software thinks it is avoiding.
Hopefully, soonish, I'll be remodeling a bathroom upstairs (I forgot to mention this was the main floor), and I might consider getting the version of the S8 MaxV Ultra so I can connect it to a water line and drainage. I might utilize the trade-in for the S8PU for the newer one with the drainage/water hookup unless they require sending it back in the original box cause I don't have it anymore.
One thing I will admit, though, is that any of them will make you more aware of what you leave on the floor. I've had both get too close to shoes and get tangled with the shoe laces. Then, the robot spins around in circles for a few minutes, trying to get untangled. But then it stops and throws out an error out of frustration. xD
Thank you for another excellent review! I will hold off on upgrading my S8 Pro Ultra. The auto-emptying is too long, and I don't want a decrease in the water tank's amount, so I will pass. It is not worth the upgrade to me. I'm thrilled with my S8 Pro Ultra; however, I was waiting on your review to see if I'd make the purchase.
Enjoy it. It is a good robot.
Great review. I've been looking forward to your review to see if it's worth upgrading, expecially with the trade-in program. However some of the new features sound better on paper than in reality. I think I'll hang on to my S7 Max Ultra and see what the S9 Max Ultra or S9 MaxV Ultra have to offer maybe next year. Thanks for the review and keep up the excellent work.
The S7 Max Ultra is still new enough that you could wait for the next generation or wait for the bugs to get hopefully resolved and then buy on a black Friday sale.
Thanks for great review, the hair problem and stuck on coords problem is the dealbreaker for me.
Excellent review. A well deserved like.
Much appreciated!
great detailed review! thanks!
Thanks Jamie for your unbiased review. The Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra is our 1st robot purchase, based on your experience do you think Roborock will make the improvements you suggested in the firmware? We have just received ours and have a month to decide if this is the best vacuum/mop for our use. Also we are complete newbies, is there an in-depth video of the Roborock app to explain the options available?
It is my expierance that they will improve based on my findings. That does take time though. I have a general app overview video I did a few years ago. It is fairly outdated now, but may still help some. ua-cam.com/video/WE2NeBJseoc/v-deo.htmlsi=D7PNXUx146DZ8u6T
@@jamie.andrews Sounds good, thanks for the link
Thank you for your response, Jamie. I would like to have a mop function for my hard floors, and my budget is not an issue. Object avoidance is a must-have feature, and I also need a self-empty dock. While checking the available models, I saw that you haven't reviewed the L10S Pro Ultra Heat yet. Can you please compare it with the L20 and Q REVO models, and also with the S8 Pro Ultra? I'm not sure how important the hot water mopping pad system is. For your information, I'm from Australia, so the Dreame X30 model is not available here.
I'm feeling confused about which robot vacuum model to purchase. Initially, I was interested in the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra, but I found out that it doesn't come with rotating pads. I'm not sure if it can mop well without them. Therefore, I am also considering the L10s Pro Ultra Heat, which has rotating pads and an extendable mopping edge. However, since there aren't many reviews available for this model, I am concerned about its navigation system and detection capabilities. It would be really helpful if you could review the L10s Pro Ultra Heat for me.
Sadly we don't get many of the same models here in the US. I have reviews the L10s Ultra and also have a comparison video with it and the Qrevo. I will soon have a video out on the Qrevo MaxV along with the Eufy S1 Pro.
@@jamie.andrews Thank you Jamie. I wait for QREVO MAX VIDEO. :) .. any suggestion what can i buy (as per USA availaibilty) ? also how important is hot water pad cleaning? L20 does not have hot water function but its suction power and battery is better than l10s heat one
@@amanchahal216 I addressed this topic in my last 2 videos including this one. Personally I think hot water mop washing is not that effective unless you are dealing with grease on the floors.
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rotating pads have been proved to be only marginally better in speciifc cases only than vibrating plates. You can compare this video with the Q revo maxv.
Great review, as always !
It would be so great if you could also compare Robots vacuum performances at iso-decibels. Max power mode is always good to know, but as it drains more battery and bleeds ears, that's only on side of the story in my opinion (especially since they catch almost everything, I don't see it as a distinguishing factor).
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This review convinced me that i should keep my s7 mvu untill it dies 😅
It is a great robot.
Thanks for the review. I wonder on most of the "issues" highlighted can be resolved by a software update ...... For example, side brush, water temp,
Absolutely in fact I just got the first one today. Now I am frantically retesting to see if it fixed anything. So far no on the side brush as far as coming out under cabinets on a room cleaning it still does not and it is still delayed coming out on some corners. Hot water is stl non existent.
@@jamie.andrews yeah, especially with the price it charges $1.8k, people expect the best. If this thing is around $1.2k, is much more reasonable with current state
Wow Jamie, what an excellent review! (and editing) Think I'll pass on this almost $2,000 robot (after taxes).
Biggest deal breaker for me is that difficult hair removal on the main brushes. It's so much easier on the older models. An easy fix for the full dust bin is simply to put a timer in the app. You could pick how often to empty if you think there is a lot of material to pick up. Set for five, ten, or whatever minutes. Hear this Roborock!??
Thanks. I suspect they will fix the software issues. The hair on the roller though there is no software to fix that.
Thanks for the great review once again. Sadly the entire Roborock S8 series has been flawed from the get-go.. especially the S8 Pro Ultra was a major let down. The Q Revo is still by far their best robot vacuum in terms of price performance.
Can't say I disagree.
Great review ❤
Great review, I'm looking forward to seeing more about the new Q revo models, I like that design a bit better. As far as the hot water mop washing, sounds like the dock is turning off the heating element too soon, I would think the best way to handle this is to leave it on throughout the mop wash cycle. Hopefully the issue of only emptying every 30 minutes in the vacuum and mop mode can be fixed with a software update. The Eufy X10 pro and several Ecovacs models allow you to have the robot self empty after a certain length of time in the vacuum only mode.
Thanks! Yes the heater needs to stay on longer or come on more frequently. Both things you spoke about can be fixed with firmware updates. QRevo reviews should be out in May.
@@jamie.andrews hi Jamie, will your QRevo review come out soon? Mid year sales are coming up and I want to know if it's worth getting the new QRevo Max V or stay with the old Q Revo.
@@clickjo yes in a few days.
Great review and as always very thorough! I think the price is a good bit more than I’d be willing to pay without enough enhancements over my less than 2 years old S7 Max V . But I did note that the Eufy S1 Pro was visible in one of the pics of the dock! Very excited about that unit with a completely new mopping system and relatively aggressive price. When can we expect that review??? There are many out today from unheard of and non-trusted sources, so looking for a review from a pro, preferably while still available on the kickstarter pricing!
Should have it out early next week.
Thanks for the detailed review Jamie! I was on the fence between this and the X40 Ultra. Seems as if the X40 Ultra is the way to go. But looking forward to your review of that model! Do you know about when you'll be able to review that one?
I am waiting on it to come in. I will likely do a head to head and hopefully RR has time to fix some of these issue.
@@jamie.andrews Not sure if there is much difference compared to the X30 Ultra that you have tested.
@@petitbarzun nothing major
@@jamie.andrews they now released the X40 pro in China. It is an ultra, but it's lidar unit can sink in it's body when needed.
To all the idiots praising Vacuum Wars religiously, learn what a proper review is with this video. One thing i would add is some stains next to the edge to see how well does the edge mopping works
Yes with all of these edge mops coming out I need to figure out a good testing method.
This is how you make a review
Ty!
The review I've been waiting for!! I came to your channel looking for it yesterday! I enjoy your honest, thorough reviews! Thank you.
Cant wait to see a comparison and testing video between this RR model, the new S8 Max Ultra
vs the X30 vs the x40.
That would be the battle of the latest robot competition.
Thanks so much. X40 is in transit to me.
@jamie.andrews Awesome! Do you think the new S8 Max Ultra is worth it or the latest Q Revo ?
I want to upgrade and am between these 8 series or the S7 Max (although I really don't want a camera) . I honestly am considering taking the plunge for either series.
I have an S7 (regular dock, not S7+ ),
but after getting wrapped in a chord one of wheels broke so I have been without a vacuum.
I wanted to wait till black Friday sales, but really need a new vac and the 3-5 yr warranty sounded helpful.
@@jamie.andrews Appreciate any feedback in advance.
@@Sun.n.Flowers honestly don't have any. Both the Qrevo Pro and MaxV are still in the box and the X40 is in transit.
@@Sun.n.Flowers You should wait for my review of the Qrevo Pro then. It does not have a camera.
In watching the robot in a corner or near an edge, it is surprising that the only solution to gather debris is to reach it's flingly arm out a bit. While this could work, it would seem just as likely to fling the debris the wrong direction. Ideally, another vacuum arm/tube would work better, assuming it would be feasible.
It just needs to slow down before getting into the corner. Sometimes it does, but most times it does not.
Bought this and waiting to set it up. Do you feel these issues you’ve found will potentially all be fixed with a software update? I may return during the return period if I’m not happy. Thank you for the review! It’s my first robot vacuum so I am excited!
That is my expectation based on my previous expieranced with Roborock. They really care about these things. I got a new firmware just today and now I am going back and testing.
@@jamie.andrews phenomenal. Really appreciate you.
I don’t want mopping. Can you totally disable mopping and not load water?
Yes, but if you don't mop you may want to look at a less expensive model like the Q5 Pro.
I have this model and love it overall - However, I experience that it does NOT empty the dustbin automatically every time, although cleaning cycle has ended.
Seems like too much dust in the dustbin blocks the auto-empty function.
Are you performing whole house cleanings vs room cleanings?
Thanks for the review
Good review, thank you! I'm glad they are adding the a silver ion block in the clean water tank. It's very disappointing the flexiarm does not clean corners well and does not extend under counter tops. I'm not sure I want to participate in the buy back program now. 😢
I was a bit shocked by this as well, however I feel they will optimize it through firmware since I am sure I won't be the only one to give them this feedback.
@@jamie.andrews Theo kinh nghiệm của bạn Roborock có tung ra các bản cập nhật để sửa các lỗi này không ?
I see the S1 Pro there, please release it so I know which one to get Jamie! thanks for all the help you provide!
Working on it!
Does the flexi arm work while the vacuum is on a runner ? I have runners in the kitchen so it would be great if it the arm comes out while the vacuum is on the runner. This would be nice to have. I saw the video and it’s not working. But something to work on for Roborock.
No it does not. So far for me only in corners.
Great review, I’ve been waiting on exactly this! Can you comment on how quickly the bag fills up? On average (non testing) runs, can you estimate how many can be done before the bag is full and needs to be thrown out? Curious how much the bags can really hold. Thanks!!
The bag is unchanged in size from the previous models at 2.5 litter and how fast it will fill will vary house to house. Roborock say 6 to 7 weeks, but again that depends on the total square footage of the home, how many carpets vs hard floors and how many pets. Pets have a huge impact on the especially long hair pets. I honestly never fill one because I have moved on to the next robot to test right after this one.
Pls post you review on the new QRevo MaxV. Thanks in advance
Will do soon
7:21 - Looks like the LIDAR beam is actually hitting the cabinet doors so it probably thinks it's too close which is perhaps why it retracts the brush?
Lidar hitting the cabinet is not the problem here or the robot would be able to get under the cabinet and thus not have the need for a swing out side brush. It would be like riding beside any wall.
The robot has a side sensor on it to tell it how far the wall is away from the robot. It uses this along with the lidar to tell the robot that there is a cabinet base there. If you look at my Dreame X30 video you can see when it gets to the same cabinets it can tell there is a cabinet and it will start a wiggle motion to get the pad all the way under the cabinet. This is how the S8 MaxV should work as well just with the side brush.
Dreame X40 Ultra is destroying the Roborock and I have a Roborock S7 maxV. Lasted exactly 1 year at 1300 dollars Won't make that mistake again. Called to get it repaired or replaced and have been getting the run around
Oh wow I hate to hear that.
lol "destroying"
Hi Jamie
Thank you for the honest review. I have been waiting for this one to see if I finally upgrade my (non dock) S7.
Based on what’s out there right now, what is your recommendation for the very best vacuum and dock. Tiles and carpet. Assume no budget limit. Is it one of the new Dreame’s? Like the l30 or x40. Should I wait for the revo maxv and your review? Seems to me from your reviews that Dreame might be the better option right now (even though I like the Roborock software).
Interested in your views!
Thanks again.
David
Maybe wait for the Qrevo MaxV review or the Dreame X40. Have you seen my review of the X30?
Thanks Jamie for responding so quickly. I did see the x30 review which looks like the best out there right now. I suppose I should wait to see a review from you of the x40 and qrevo maxv. Any idea when you are likely to receive units for review? I should note, btw, I’ll be donating to your channel as a thanks for the excellent work you do - please keep it up!
@@davidandvickie First off thanks for the support! I have the Qrevo MaxV now, but it will be a bit before the review comes out. Should be in May. The X40 is in transit from far away.
Good video, I know how long these take! I am making one now.
Hey bud! This one was a good bit of work for sure!
I got the version of those that hooks up to water and drainage !!
Can you tell us more about that
Should be the exact same except instead of water tanks there is a cold water line and a sewer line out the back. Otherwise the will function the same.
What a shocker! I hope they will fix these issues!!!
Dude. I know. This was one of the hardest video reviews to make. I hate saying bad things about any company and their products, but I have faith that Roborock will fix these and hopefully very soon.
@@jamie.andrews yeah. I feel Roborock is overengineering in a way and forgetting about the basics. Hopefully the Q Revo MaxV will be okay.
@@MrBlueCreeper Yea. QRevo is the cash cow. Has to be.
@@jamie.andrews yeah. I was surprised to see the Dual Rollers doing well on hard floors! If only they increased the bin size... I feel the Q Revo MaxV will be a better robot overall, regardless of price! Hopefully Roborock will switch from pads to mop rollers like the Eufy S1!
@@MrBlueCreeper The bin size would be OK for most if it could just return to the dock to empty. I guess they are scared of Amazon and iRobot? Everyone is talking about the S1 Pro non stop. It is an impressive mop, but there are tradeoffs like most things. You know I will highlight the good and bad.
What's the max power consumption? Also does it support 220v too?
Wow, I saw your review and was a bit shocked from all the cons you've mentioned. I have the S7 with the dust container. since 2021. I have 2 pets (a dog and a cat). I turn it on everyday and it comes back with a lot of dirt. All in all, it does a good job. Do you think it's worth keeping or should you recommaned to upgrade it to S8 maxv, considering the price and the cons? I was hoping the S8 maxV will avoid cabels, but in your review it didn't. What is your honest opinion? To stick with the S7 or replace it? Anf if so, to what? Thx a lot!!
The S7 is a great robot. It really depends on your needs and wants with the upgrade. You mentioned object avoidance, but the MaxV gives way more upgrades than just that over the S7. While the MaxV is not great with cords the S7 does not have built in object avoidance so the S8 MaxV will still be an upgrade. You may also want to look at the Qrevo models. I just put a video out comparing a few of them. ua-cam.com/video/iSMqTKFj-aQ/v-deo.html
What's the best robot hoover money can buy at the moment?
Dog poo is a common household item? JK great video keep it up :)
Lol yep
Great review, doesn’t seem like it’s better enough to justify returning my S8 Pro Ultra I got for $900 on Amazon.
That is a huge price difference.
Thanks!
Thank you for the support!
Jamie - any updates or improvements since this last review? Trying to gauge on a purchase or not.
Not for the Flexi arm. Have not tested object avoidance yet.
I'm unsure between this and the new Dreame X40 Ultra.
After years of waiting, I will buy my first robot vacuum cleaner. I'm being careful and I'm still waiting for the reviews for these two models now.
The X40 arrives soon and I should have a review out in late May early June.
Jamie, do you have any recommended settings? Should we be turning on the deep carpet cleaning setting to hit floor mats better?
All deep carpet cleaning does is over over them again. If you feel you need your carpets vacuumed twice then enable this setting.
I hope you soon review Eufy S1 Pro very soon? Thank you for your reviewing so we would not have to :)
I hope to have it out in the next week.
Jamie, I have the s8 maxV ultra but have remodeled areas of my home and would like to now use the drain and refill dock. Is it possible to buy that dock by itself?
Unfortunately no, not that I am aware of. You may want to contact Roborock and confirm though.
Did Roborok answer you to all the problems you identified? And if so, when to wait for their correction? Can all problems be fixed only by updating the robot or base through the robot? And how are things with the brush module, they say the s8 pro ultra had problems with the airflow, which caused the power to be lost, have you noticed this in the new robot?
Roborock stared the would work to fix the issues. Most could be fixed via firmware update.
This has a much larger vacuum motor so it has been pretty good compared to the S8 Pro.
hi can you do a washing test around the legs of a table? maybe adding some icing sugar?
Hi Jamie, is there a way for the Roborock to only vacuum the carpet, then return to dock and empty the dust bin? Do you think you will have the Dreame 40 reviewed before the early bird offer ends on 19th May. I saw you chose the previous Dreame models as really good choices, thanks in advance!
Not at this moment. It will only empty after 30 minutes and only in vacuum and mop mode.
I am still waiting on the X40 so no unfortunately I won't have a video out by then.
Waaaaait… so the flex arm won’t come out when you do room or zone cleaning? Are they serious with that crap?
It will come out in corners, but as far as under cabinets it has to be a whole hose cleaning.
I was hoping to see auto-empty detection on this and other new Roborock models as I understood that Roomba's patent on this had expired in the same way their dual roller one had?
It has not expired yet. I think 2026 @xeon2k8 do you know?
How easily is the dock cleaning on this compared to the S7 MaxV?
I thought I read something about this new dock have self-cleaning ability but that sounds a bit off. Maybe it just means it can dry which helps avoid water sitting around getting gross.
Easier on the Qrevo due to a removable dock tray and nothing to clean in the base.
so what robo vacuum/mop do you recommend? the best one, price no object
Well then the most expensive one I have reviewed is the Dreame X40 Ultra with a retail price of $1900 lol. I'll have the video you are asking about planned to be released around black Friday.
UGH, I just ordered mine I wished I seen this review first
I expect most things to get resolved with firmware updates. I wish they fixed them before they started on sale which is why I went ahead and released this video.
Hope you can review the x40 soon!
It is on the way!
Me gustó mucho el test realizado al S8 MaxV Ultra de Roborock. Me gustaría que hiciera una review y diera sus consideraciones acerca de la Samsung Bespoke JetBot Combo presentada en este año. Saludos.
It is on my list.
Jamie: Did you encounter issues when there was a rug in the room that had mostly hard surface in vacuum only mode ? I have a tile floor with a low pile rug under the sofa/coffee table. The robot does a normal perimeter run fine driving over the tile and rug tearing them as a single surface(carpet boost occurs she in the rug) Then it starts the interior cleaning. However, once the rug is encountered again, the robot starts wiggling its way along the edge of the carpet and does a complete perimeter run of the rug and full cleans the rug only. Then the robot returns to the tile floor and cleans the remaining portions of the tile that is left. The carpet setting is on rise which should be irrelevant in vacuum only mode but it appears that it defaults to mopping behavior when the rug is encountered in vacuum only mode. This is a major waste of time and I really do not like the rug edge cleaning as it the robot goes very slow wiggling g it way along the edge and chews on the rug edge a bit. I found it did the same thing in a room that had mostly carpet and a small marble hearth around a fireplace. When it was cleaning and drove onto the hearth, all was fine. But as soon as it re-encountered the carpet, it did a complete room permitter run again (as room is mostly carpet)before resuming cleaning. This was reported to Roborock.
From my experience so far, the robot is ridden with software issues.
You may have the option on that says clean carpets first under carpet settings. I agree it should only do this on a mopping mode and not vacuum only mode, but I forgot to report that bug. I noticed sometimes it would appear to clean the edges of my rugs and other times not. I wish you could turn that feature off as it turns up the edges of my runner.
Too many issues with the robot right now.
Thanks Jamie. I don’t have any of the other options enabled. The vacuum only mode simply is broken. In vacuum only mode, it should treat all surfaces (tile/wood/rugs/carpet) as one surface and just vacuum assuming you don’t have any options set (vacuum carpets first or after). The entire carpet menu is at this point is tied directly to mopping. In fact, at the very bottom of the the apps Carpet page in light font, it says “when the mop bracket is installed” which is always since it’s not removable. Bewildering how the basic vacuum functionality is broken.
@@Firebat- Yea I just noticed that about the mop pad attachment. That was a problem on the S8 Pro Ultra too and they fixed the working about the attached mop bracket. I'll report that and test to see if mine is doing the same as yours with carpet. I have direct channels to report these issue.
@@Firebat- Make sure you are on the latest firmware. I tested and mine does not vaccum carpets first in vaccum only mode with the setting turned off. If I turn on the vaccum carpets first it will vacuum the carpet first.
I agree it should only obey this setting when in vacuum and mop mode and not vacuum only mode.
Thanks Jamie.
It’s running the latest firmware. It actually doesn’t vacuum the carpet first. It does a perimeter room run (including crossing carpet/rug) and all is fine. It isn’t until during the room cleaning that it encounters the carpet again that it’stops and vacuums the rug completely including the aggressive rug edge cleaning. Then it resume cleaning the rest of the hard surface once the rug cleaning is completed(and that is what RISE says it does with the mopping bracket is attached). This is repeatable and the Q Revo MaxV behaves exactly the same. So it’s something with the firmware in the new models and Roborock not accounting for vacuum only mode. I believe Roborock thinks everyone use mop and vac at the same time and isn’t focusing on vacuum only. That would be the correct behavior if mopping at the same time. I typically use vacuum only most of the time and leads to another annoyance of the app always ending up back in mop and vac..thus requiring routines to be created to simplify things. But as of now, I find the robot not usable until they fix the rug issues in vacuum only mode (and make the aggressive edge cleaning and option as you mentioned). Otherwise the robot will damage some expensive rugs.
What’s your opinion on the mop feature in regards to light spills and stains?
I currently have a Roborock S4 and mop once a month. I take care of hard spills right away, but stuff like water drops and foot prints, I leave till the end of the month to mop. Would the mop feature of the S8 MaxV Ultra eliminate these small water or footprint stains on the floor?
Would like to upgrade if it can eliminate the manual mop all together since my entire house is vinyl flooring!
While can't can't really say if it would remove it I can say the mopping system is pretty good. I would say it should handle most of your cleaning needs. I hardly ever mop with anything but a robot.
maybe a comparison between x40 and s8 maxv. making them wash around the leg of a table sprinkled with icing sugar
Hey, im very happy i came across your review, answers every question one could have. I currently have the roomba s9+ since 2019, its not very good at avoiding objects and im due for an upgrade. Curious what product youd consider as the best on the market. The roborock promo for a 5 year warranty and additional wet mop is enticing and the QRevo looks to only have 7000 Pa suction, do you think that would be superior or have any recommendation of the top robot available, the self changing water is a must for me, thanks!!
I have not tested the Q Revo Maxv just yet, but you may want to watch some of my reviews on the Dreame X30 and L20 Ultra. ua-cam.com/video/rrdLbQDQwCo/v-deo.htmlsi=QkwsvBzUvHDZ-ZfR
@jamie.andrews just watched that review, no surprise another great one sir. It feels like the dreame is superior, which I would then go x40 but from what I see online the dreame support is nit great. Curious of your take on that as roborock may not be flawless right now but from what you said they have great support and a 5 year warranty, it's quite the dilemma lol..thank you for the great videos, you've made me really have to think here
@@tommyboy3121 I hear that often about Dreame and honestly I hear it too about Roborock, just not as much. I have all the Dreame products and have not had any issues with them. I think it has a lot to do with the duty cycles and how well people take care of them. I don't use one long enough to really be a good judge though.
I this in your eyes better than the iRobot Combi 9+?? Thanks
I have not tested that model yet, but in general I would say yes based on the J7 Combo I tested last year. I don't like their mopping system.