Sounds terrific ! I just came across your channel in my feed actually and I'm happy to support your efforts and those of other fellow moto content creators. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from you in the future, keep up the great work and ride safe out there.
Thank you... bike has never seen any dealer or other shop for anything that’s done to it.... although I will be taking it for some dyno runs soon but I will only do it if I can bring MY laptop and make adjustments on it.... it’s kind of a trust thing for me... I just don’t trust anyone to do what I want or how I want it done lol
Thank you.... one day I will get around to an update video... bike looks a little different now. Painted inside faring, black front end, different seat... etc
It’s been a while since I did this and a lot has changed. When I did this there was no cam option for a base map. But now I think there are a few cam maps on the software, find one that is close to the cam specs. Maybe if there is one for a 468 use that one , and fine tune it over a few rides
Good job doing it yourself, after hours of research I also went with woods 22x cam and fuel motos 2in1 road&track full system, remapped with dyno jet power vision on my 18 FLTRX very happy with the results as this really woke up the M8, dynoed at 95 HP and 105 ft/lb torque on EC997a Eddy Dynamometer which gives true numbers of power to the pavement, not this inflated bullshit coming off the crank.
@@amphibdriver1 Probably a 6, this system can be as loud as you want, what I mean is you can be nice to your neighbors or not 😂 80 on the freeway and you'll still hear your tunes.
@@ironmikelo.8839 ----> That's really strong acceleration! What size baffle opening do your Bones Shakers have? A louvered baffle or straight through, perforated pipe baffle?
I too did the woods performance 22x cam along with the two brothers racing 2 into 1 comp s series pipe and kept my stock ventilator A/C on it but with a K&N air filter because I don't really see any significant gains with a heavy breather unless you're going to change out the throttlebody and if you're just doing a stage one or two that don't make any difference either you need to do a stage three or four in order to really get the gains by swapping out to a bigger throttlebody but along with a power vision from fuel moto with a map in that fuel motor set up for my bikes set up. My question is where do you think my numbers are on this 114 breakout to the rear wheel after all this work? Thanks.
Ken Dean well it’s hard to say exactly but I would guess somewhere around 112hp/118tq . Mine put down 100 and 110 and I’m sure some is still left on the table. With your more Cubes and a 2-1 that’s my guess
How do you like that setup? I was planning on doing basically the exact same (22x cam, tbr 2-1 comp s, PV tuner) on my fat bob 114 except with the fuel moto heavy breather mod using the stock filter cover. Been trying to find opinions on forums. Hows the power/delivery feel compared to stock? Hows the pipe sound?
MTDman11 I will say that there is a night and day difference in this bike with the two brothers S comp series the power vision from fuel Moto with their map in it for my bike along with their woods performance 22X cam kit along with the stock ventilator intake with a cane in air filter in it. Everyone who jumps on my bike and takes it down the road for 15/20 minutes comes back and says unfucking believable! The sound out of this M8 114 now is thunderous.
You definitely shouldn’t lug it like that going slow in a high gear. That’s harder on the engine than revvin it high. Everything gets beat around in there, trans and primary too, when your lugging it.
It would depend on “What” you are trying to warranty. For instance if a week later I bend a pushrod or drop a lifter... no dice.. I’m on my own. If say my radio or ignition is not working, I will bring it in for warranty work all day
Don't EVER lug your engine. Sure fire way to do damage. You should always be have your engine at no less than 1500rpms while in gear. Trust me...I learned the hard way.
RPMs on a Harley should always be higher than lower. Running your bike to redline and then shifting will never hurt it. No way Harley would warranty a bike they know wont last hitting redline. You have a lot more cushion at red line that you think. Worst thing you can do is lug. A Harley only runs to its full potential in a higher rpm range. Of course you cant rev the shit out of them in neutral. Or drop 3 gears instantly at 90 mph. Under load keep rpms up and enjoy a bike that engineers designed to ride 3500 4000 rpms and up
@@blades2255 I have beet so many guys on my bike when they go to red line,no power being made there,they hit there limiter and iam gone.i hit next gear about 4600 ,I totally agree about lugging the bike,especially on these new long stroke 114,kills the crank and rods.
I have a completely off subject question. Did you make a video on making hot sauce? On subject the bike sounds amazing. Looking to make a change on my 2012 ultra classic so I'm researching and you definitely sound like my go to video for making hot sauce guy. Regardless if your not the bike videos are good and helpful. Keep it up.
Lol… no I am not your hot sauce guy…. Although I did actually make for the first time last summer my own home made hot sauce… I did not document it… lol…. I actually gave out samples and brought some to work and the people that had it surprisingly loved it…. Anyway thank you and good luck with your build
BaggerBro lmao... no I’m not selling mine.. lol... but they are online for sale. The puller is $100 and the install tool is $100 . For a tuner I’m running a thundermax
forrest electra Yes it is a true dual exhaust. And yes you are correct an “X” pipe or a 2-1 will make more power. But I personally dyno tuned it and I got it to put down 105 hp and 112 tq ... so I’m not worried about it... when I do a 120 kit then I will go 2-1.
Do you have video or anything to show how to install everything and adjust the rods and everything else that needs to be adjusted? All I need to do is buy a tuner.
It has a thundermax…. Yes I had to tune it… I set a base map to get going then I let it auto learn for a while, then I put it on a dyno and made other adjustments there then let it auto learn more… then about once a month I would save the auto learn it’s forever learning lol
No... changing the cam does nothing to change anything with the eitms. However what can affect it is the tune, depending on what you use to tune it it may disable it, it may not
S&S wrote a great article on this. They have to do a lot more bottom end rebuilds on those who baby their bike than those who are a little more spirited riders.
Very cool.... the reason mine did not make more is the exhaust... if I had a text book exhaust it would probably have been 108-110 hp and 115 ft-lb.... but hey I like the sound and I’m happy with the power
Lots of reasons to buy harleys - style, sound, comfort, name, quality. I dont see any other cruisers with better numbers so easily. Lots of good things
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Sounds terrific ! I just came across your channel in my feed actually and I'm happy to support your efforts and those of other fellow moto content creators. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from you in the future, keep up the great work and ride safe out there.
Awesome set up.
Thank you for the great content.
Nice job! Sounds great on video. I imagine it's even better in person. You have my respect for all the work you've done yourself.
Thank you... bike has never seen any dealer or other shop for anything that’s done to it.... although I will be taking it for some dyno runs soon but I will only do it if I can bring MY laptop and make adjustments on it.... it’s kind of a trust thing for me... I just don’t trust anyone to do what I want or how I want it done lol
Cool good video. Just ordered that cam for my 107
Great job man! Nice bike too .
Sounds great. Love the bike in white.
Thank you.... one day I will get around to an update video... bike looks a little different now. Painted inside faring, black front end, different seat... etc
That sounds real good!!!
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That sounds sweet..!
Sounds and looks great! Just liked and subbed 🤘
nice sound and lope
What base map did you use for the woods cam. I’m installing the same cam on my bike with the thunder max
It’s been a while since I did this and a lot has changed. When I did this there was no cam option for a base map. But now I think there are a few cam maps on the software, find one that is close to the cam specs. Maybe if there is one for a 468 use that one , and fine tune it over a few rides
Good Video
Good job doing it yourself, after hours of research I also went with woods 22x cam and fuel motos 2in1 road&track full system, remapped with dyno jet power vision on my 18 FLTRX very happy with the results as this really woke up the M8, dynoed at 95 HP and 105 ft/lb torque on EC997a Eddy Dynamometer which gives true numbers of power to the pavement, not this inflated bullshit coming off the crank.
Michael Kramer---> On a scale of 1-10 for loudness what number would you rate your Road and Track two into one system at steady speeds of 80 mph?
@@amphibdriver1 Probably a 6, this system can be as loud as you want, what I mean is you can be nice to your neighbors or not 😂 80 on the freeway and you'll still hear your tunes.
@@ironmikelo.8839 -----How good does your engine accelerate from 70 mph in 6th gear to 80 mph to pass a car on a scale of 1-10?
@@amphibdriver1 10 you'll have no problems getting around them, he'll the bike did it pretty good when it was stock.
@@ironmikelo.8839 ----> That's really strong acceleration! What size baffle opening do your Bones Shakers have? A louvered baffle or straight through, perforated pipe baffle?
I too did the woods performance 22x cam along with the two brothers racing 2 into 1 comp s series pipe and kept my stock ventilator A/C on it but with a K&N air filter because I don't really see any significant gains with a heavy breather unless you're going to change out the throttlebody and if you're just doing a stage one or two that don't make any difference either you need to do a stage three or four in order to really get the gains by swapping out to a bigger throttlebody but along with a power vision from fuel moto with a map in that fuel motor set up for my bikes set up. My question is where do you think my numbers are on this 114 breakout to the rear wheel after all this work? Thanks.
Ken Dean well it’s hard to say exactly but I would guess somewhere around 112hp/118tq . Mine put down 100 and 110 and I’m sure some is still left on the table. With your more Cubes and a 2-1 that’s my guess
How do you like that setup? I was planning on doing basically the exact same (22x cam, tbr 2-1 comp s, PV tuner) on my fat bob 114 except with the fuel moto heavy breather mod using the stock filter cover. Been trying to find opinions on forums. Hows the power/delivery feel compared to stock? Hows the pipe sound?
MTDman11 I will say that there is a night and day difference in this bike with the two brothers S comp series the power vision from fuel Moto with their map in it for my bike along with their woods performance 22X cam kit along with the stock ventilator intake with a cane in air filter in it. Everyone who jumps on my bike and takes it down the road for 15/20 minutes comes back and says unfucking believable! The sound out of this M8 114 now is thunderous.
I'm going to throw it on the Dyno this spring just to see where my numbers are
@@Bondarms410 had it dynoed at a local HD and my numbers were 116/127 to the wheel.
You definitely shouldn’t lug it like that going slow in a high gear. That’s harder on the engine than revvin it high. Everything gets beat around in there, trans and primary too, when your lugging it.
Soinds great I have a 18 FLFB 107 but think Im going to go the Zippers 468 route
Did u do the zippers?
@@spankulator I have not but am planning to
So what did that cam and thunder max work do to your warranty
If will viod it,,guaranteed
It would depend on “What” you are trying to warranty. For instance if a week later I bend a pushrod or drop a lifter... no dice.. I’m on my own. If say my radio or ignition is not working, I will bring it in for warranty work all day
Don't EVER lug your engine. Sure fire way to do damage. You should always be have your engine at no less than 1500rpms while in gear. Trust me...I learned the hard way.
I try to keep it over 2.5k
RPMs on a Harley should always be higher than lower. Running your bike to redline and then shifting will never hurt it. No way Harley would warranty a bike they know wont last hitting redline. You have a lot more cushion at red line that you think. Worst thing you can do is lug. A Harley only runs to its full potential in a higher rpm range. Of course you cant rev the shit out of them in neutral. Or drop 3 gears instantly at 90 mph.
Under load keep rpms up and enjoy a bike that engineers designed to ride 3500 4000 rpms and up
What is best rpm to be at at all times. I cruise around at 40 mph at usually 2k rpm. any link to video for proper rpm range?
@@blades2255 I have beet so many guys on my bike when they go to red line,no power being made there,they hit there limiter and iam gone.i hit next gear about 4600 ,I totally agree about lugging the bike,especially on these new long stroke 114,kills the crank and rods.
@@stevedavis3436 yup, no point revving past when the torque curve starts falling off
I have a completely off subject question. Did you make a video on making hot sauce? On subject the bike sounds amazing. Looking to make a change on my 2012 ultra classic so I'm researching and you definitely sound like my go to video for making hot sauce guy. Regardless if your not the bike videos are good and helpful. Keep it up.
Lol… no I am not your hot sauce guy…. Although I did actually make for the first time last summer my own home made hot sauce… I did not document it… lol…. I actually gave out samples and brought some to work and the people that had it surprisingly loved it…. Anyway thank you and good luck with your build
You wanna sell your cam bearing removal/install tool? Trying to do the same cam in my 2018 road king ... also, what tuner are you running? Thanks bud.
BaggerBro lmao... no I’m not selling mine.. lol... but they are online for sale. The puller is $100 and the install tool is $100 . For a tuner I’m running a thundermax
How’s the thundermax? I have an FP3 and am looking at the 22x currently. Wondering if I’ll have any issues with tuning it
Also have the FP3. Cant stand it. Going TMax or PV, but want more info on TMax. Have heard theres been issues with ECU bricking.
What bars? Any gripes there?
Factory 47 bars and Avon cushion spike grips
looks like you changed out the headpipe to true dual?? i was told the m8 really needs the power chanber to perform well
forrest electra Yes it is a true dual exhaust. And yes you are correct an “X” pipe or a 2-1 will make more power. But I personally dyno tuned it and I got it to put down 105 hp and 112 tq ... so I’m not worried about it... when I do a 120 kit then I will go 2-1.
@@drtub92 oh nice, respectable numbers thanks
What is the idle set at?
Cold it is 12-1300 , warm it’s 750-800
@@drtub92 ---Because the M8 engines need higher oil pressure I have my idle set at 1,000 RPM.
What tuner did you put on it?
Thundermax
Potter 1017 did you do all the work yourself and does it have the adjustable rods?
Yes I do and yes it does have adjustable push rods
Do you have video or anything to show how to install everything and adjust the rods and everything else that needs to be adjusted? All I need to do is buy a tuner.
Did you have to retune it?
It has a thundermax…. Yes I had to tune it… I set a base map to get going then I let it auto learn for a while, then I put it on a dyno and made other adjustments there then let it auto learn more… then about once a month I would save the auto learn it’s forever learning lol
Love the bike man.Ride-ability not Driveability.
Excuse my ignorance but what's boneshakers?
No big deal….. it’s just the brand of mufflers
Stock head pipes or after market head pipes?
Bassani true dual’s
@@drtub92 ---> Thanks for the reply
Lay a patch...
Hey bud, does this mess with the EITMS?
What exactly are you asking about?
@@drtub92 on the m8 they have eitms (engine internal temperature management system) when you cam the engine does it mess with that at all?
No... changing the cam does nothing to change anything with the eitms. However what can affect it is the tune, depending on what you use to tune it it may disable it, it may not
@@booger19888 No one would turn on EITMS (I for Idle) anyways.
@@hitekmanvn lol yeah that one.
Like to change cam in my 2017.
did you ever do it?
Even if it feels fine you shouldn’t lug the engine . Down shift
S&S wrote a great article on this. They have to do a lot more bottom end rebuilds on those who baby their bike than those who are a little more spirited riders.
Did you dyno it
Yes... it made 100 hp and 112 tq
Mine did 100.9 hp and 112 ft lbs tq on a screaming eagle cam
Very cool.... the reason mine did not make more is the exhaust... if I had a text book exhaust it would probably have been 108-110 hp and 115 ft-lb.... but hey I like the sound and I’m happy with the power
What was the cost
For what exactly? …. If you are referring to the cam and associated parts I believe it was right around $700
who was waiting for, and what where we waiting for whoever we are
whats the exhaust you have?
Check out some of my other videos
Always wonder when you pay twenty-five $30,000 for it by then have to put stage 1 2 3 to make it go big question mark here
Lots of reasons to buy harleys - style, sound, comfort, name, quality. I dont see any other cruisers with better numbers so easily. Lots of good things
You dont HAVE to do anything . Its personal preference. People buy 455hp stingray vettes and dont HAVE to spend money on mods....but they still do.
@jim wortham You mean this guy bought this bike, done all this work and didn't get your approval? Of all the nerve!
LMAO
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