I just put the Zippers Red Shift 468 into my 2021 Fat Bob. Wow what a difference. Much thanks to Pete who set everything up and treated me like a king. His knowledge and understanding with the M8's couldn't be overstated. He talked me through everything and everything he said would happen, did ! No nonsense, no bull, just good advice and he was there for me from start to finish. Seriously good people !
@@johnmosca4648 what tuner did you use and why? I'm having the same install on my 17 RGS but with RCX 4.5 in slip-ons and keeping stock headers for the time being. Thank you
Had mine installed today on my Ultra with new camplate and oil pump. Dyno’d at the shop Hp went from 85 to 105 and Tq from 109 to 122ft/lbs. 2017 107 VH power duals and high output slip ons, Arlen Ness big sucker intake and Dynojet Power Vision. Dealer said that it was the biggest increase they have seen from all cams for the M8.
Robbo67, I have the exact same setup on my 17 RGS as far as power duals, Arlen ness BS and slip ons. However, Im running the bullshit FP3 and want to get this cam and the power vision tuner. Are you still satisfied with the cam? Why did you install a new cam plate and oil pump? thanks!
road glider. Hi mate, very happy with the cam. I had the FP3 at first but when I installed cam there wasn’t the FP3 Pro available and my guy uses Dynojet so did the Powervision. Did the cam plate and oil pump upgrade from S and S for piece of mind, at that stage Harley we’re having the issues with the oil scavenging performance of there product so did the upgrade for purely peace of mind, did I need it, probably no
Just added this cam to my 18 sgs 107. Combined with vance&hines air cleaner, cobra true duals, and neighbor haters, let's just say it really is a rowdy beast now. Tuning with the fp3 starting today so we'll see how it turns out.
Installed RS468 in my 2019 M8 114. Awesome performance over stock HD cam. Also upgrade stock with S&S, Tab, Thundermax EFI. Notable change in performance and riding experience. Thanks Zippers.
This video sold me on the 468. It is inside my little 2018 Hot Rod Deluxe! I've only put 2700 miles on it since install, but I am ecstatic about it. Thanks for a great product!
I just put a RS468 in my 2021 RGS with the 114. Added a trask intake, khromewerks headpipe, TAB zombies and a powervision. The thing rides amazing, big upgrade. and sounds PERFECT
I put a 468 Cam in my 2019 Limited. I put S-E Stage 4 Cylinder Heads along with an S & S 128 cu in Big Bore Kit. T-Max ECU, D & D Billet Cat Exhaust, S & S Cam Plate/Oil Pump, S-E Extreme Flow Intake, I polished the Runners, Ports, Combustion Chambers, Plenum to a mirror finish without altering the port design. I run Amsoil Lubrication Products for the best performance & longevity. I have no idea of what the output is. All I know is that it's very strong with 2-up and a rocket with just me on it.
Installed the RS 468 in my 2019 deluxe (107). This is an awesome cam. 105HP and 115 torque. Could likely get a few more HP with a different exhaust setup.
You guys rock !!! Luckily, I am close in Pa. My plans are to bring my 2014 SGS down in the Spring and have one of your "Muscle Kits" installed at your place.
Did the stage3 at 100 miles on my 18 breakout that came with the 114 & is now a 117ci screamer. I am always looking for more power & am thinking of adding this next. It's only a 2yr factory warranty just do it & enjoy your ride.
Thanks for the info. I'm still considering the full 475c camchest from S&S, though. But you guys did great work setting the stage for everyone to meet or beat.
@@roncoburn7771 EDIT: I didnt' get this cam, disregard this comment. I'm actually going with the Wood 22X cam because it gives way more total gains in HP across the dynograph instead of just at the top end. Way more torque than any other cam at low end all the way up to 4500RPM, and it climbs making good HP all the way to 5500RPM. I'll be getting that cam soon enough after I figure out a solution to the compensator upgrade for the fat boy.
@@FranBunnyFFXII Hey, I have a Fat Boy also and I'm considering a cam. For me, it's all about the sound. I don't need more power from my 114". How do you like the sound from your Wood? The S&S 475 sounds the best but you need to be racing to see any difference from stock.
@@tyroneshoelace4872 I never got the Woods cam. I decided to go with the SE8-447 Cam because it was 68$ shipped to me from Ebay, it only had like 800miles on it. I couldnt' say no to a 70$ swap part, since I was replacing the oil pump at the time. I definitely use all the power of the cam and more. Just look at my youtube channel. I break 120 all the time. I've had my bike out to 130 multiple times. I ride fast and hard. I am debating about an aftermarket cam now, and the ONLY concern I have is acceleration out to 130mph. I've rev limited my bike to 5500RPM(Effective, 5700 redline, 200 threshhold). So I'm looking at cams on the sole basis of their acceleration performance. I'm mildly considering a 122 set of pistons and cylinders. Stopping at stage 3. My bike does 0-60 under 4, and 80 to 120 in 10.5. I would like faster though.
Just purchased the 468 kit for my new 2020 RG 107 will be coupled with a powervision tuner ,trask air cleaner ,horsepower inc stubby exhaust....getting it broken in with a dyno run and then dyno tune the top end will send my results when finished...super stoked!!!
I have a stage 3 114” with D&D 2-1 exhaust. I want to upgrade to this cam and tune it with the power vision. I saw what H-D dealer in Missouri did with this cam. I’m hoping I can develop power they did. I think they hit 139# of torque & something like 112hp. If I can make mine gain power like that I’d be happy. Harley dealer where I bought my bike and the ones who did they stage 3 gave me I feel unrealistic expectations. I haven’t Dyno’d it yet. May wait until cam is installed.
sokodad I will be having this cam installed in January on my 18 with the stage 3 build. It will be done by the dealer in Mo. I will let you know how it works out.
Installed the 468 last week. I love the boost in power. I added a high flow air cleaner and V&H Propipe, FP3, and 2020 oil pump while I was at it. My question has to do with idle speed. I have it set for 950 which seems a bit low. Is there a recommended idle speed for this cam?
Do you have numbers for a 2018 107 which has a stage 4 kit installed and a Reinhardt exhaust with a power vision flash tuner... My question is how would the 468 preform?
Pretend you put a H-D 131ci kit on your bike a while ago. But now your warranty is up you decide to throw on a thunder max and you’re ready to rock; what cam would you put in it? Hypothetically of course.
Is it recommended to replace the factory intake air cleaner on a 21 Heritage 114 when doing this cam? I keep getting told it already is a hi flow setup
hello I normally run a S&S 465 cam in a 114ci and it ran great, came on around 2200 and kept going to next shift. I up graded to a stage 4 117ci se heads 64 throttle body also it has an s&s super street 2 into one and tried to use my s&s 465 cam....it didn't perform. I then put in the se 515 cam that came with the kit, better but comes on way to high for me ,I like the power coming on early. what cam do u recommend. the bike is a 2022 fat boy upgraded to 117ci stage 4...please advice. ride ability is very important.
I'm going to have call you out, I simply didn't learn anything from this product video except the twin cam and M8 heads are different (which I already know).. and you said cam and push rods might be all that is needed to install..but there seemed to be no references to any other popular cams, how or why it's as good or better
Back in the 1990's? One of the performance companies, Zippers or F.R maybe, offered a 4 valve head. I don't think it lasted. Never heard anything about it.
I have the Harley se street tuner and the smart pro tuner on my 19 Road King Special. What kind of numbers can I get with the 468 cam? Also have aftermarket full exhaust.
Would the SE Pro Tuner be able to tune the RS468 cam. Additional upgrades, SE 64 mm throttle body, 64 mm manifold, SE Heavy Breather, D&D Billet Cat Big Bore Baffle. 2022 Street Glide Special. Tks
I have a 20/20 roguelite special a 114 with this 468 cam do the same for 114 as it does 107 or do you have another Cam that you would recommend for my 114
Yes, the RS468 cam will work for your 114. We also have the RS472 that is designed to be a Midrange to Top-end cam, but maintains Low-end torque. RS468- www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams/ RS472- www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-472-m8-cams/ Give us a call or send us an email. We can help you determine what you need.
I have a 2019 softail deluxe and already have true dual fishtail exhaust and a screaming eagle high flow intake otw. Plan to buy these cams and a tuner. I feel that my drive belt is so small and will not hold up to my aggressive driving. Is this a concern and should I plan for a chain conversion?
Hey guys. What’s the minimum I need to put this cam in my 2017 M8 road glide? There’s other bolt in cams out there that advertise as being able to use stock springs stock push rods and stock lifters. What about yours
I guess it’s all personal preference and depending on what your goin for if your goin for horsepower gains the probably a 2-1 full system or if you don’t care about horsepower gains but like the power it gives out after it’s done then you can do either a 2-2 or 2-1 if u don’t care about horsepower gain it’s all personal preference neither one will be bad but 2-1 if you want that little bit more power from the extra compression that a 2-1 works better
@@Alphaaussiegaming Thanks for your input Patrick. I went with an S&S Sidewinder no cat system. After I made my choice and made my appointment for cam install and dyno tune in September my mechanic tells me he thinks I would have been better off with a catted version of my system. Can't win sometimes.
Quick question, is there any other suggested up grades needed when changing this cam? Bearings, cam plate etc? Which cam upgrade would you suggest for a 2014 Heritage?
For M8s: ALWAYS change bearings when changing cams, a late Harley oil pump and end cap with O-ring. ua-cam.com/video/bbNe4px8Spw/v-deo.html 2014 Heritage: Our Red Shift Cams RS527 www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-527-cams/
I'm kinda curious as to what kind of dyno numbers you are regularly seeing on a M8 with a SE Stage 3 build, FuelMoto 2-1-2 jackpot headers (or comparable) and 4.5" mufflers. Right now that's what I've got on a 18 Road Glide Special with the crappy Street Tuner and I'm running 115TQ and 109HP
Great explanation. So with a good flowing intake on the heads, does the current throttle body flow sufficient CFM's if one was to say work/port the exhaust only? Reason I ask is HD recommends the larger throttle body and injector with their CNC ported heads (stage 4) for the M8. Maybe porting just the exhaust only on the stock heads might yield some good gains?
Without a salesman answering. Anyone have any pros or cons to just swapping the cam vice swapping push tubes and all? I know the installation is simpler with replacing everything. What day any of you? Thanks!
More labor is involved with not swapping pushrods because you would have to remove the heads. You should also ALWAYS change cam bearings when performing a cam swap.
I already have RCX 4.5 slip-ons installed. I plan to add the RC tormentor headpipes later but for now stay with stock. I really dont want to go the Thundermax route with just a stage 2. Would a map be available for the PV2 or would this be a question for the tuner manufacturer? Still learning and with videos such as yours, helps me greatly in making a sound decision I am comfortable living with. Thanks again
Slip on exhaust is about the only mod you don't need to tune... anything that opens flow is going to need tuned. Intake/high flow aircleaner. Cam, ported high flow heads, change of bore and stroke and of course free flowing exhaust... all need a tuner. Find one of those Facebook groups dedicated to modifications to the bike/motor you have. Just reading posts and comments you will pick up a lot of details.
So interesting about the intake vs exhaust valve flow numbers. Why do you think Harley did this? I'm sure they know these numbers and have a reason or it. Fuel Economy or Emissions maybe?
My question is how does it perform with "competition" exhaust? There's a lot of bogus information out there regarding how the M8 behaves when the factory pipes are replaced with high flow pipes. Check my video where I replaced with Dan Moto (cloned twobrothers). Now that my warranty is expired it is time to replace that factory cam but I don't want to put the factory head pipes back on even with slip-ons installed...
sharkzf6 I have DD billet cat 2 I to 1 exhaust with a big sucker air intake with this cam. Dyno with power vision results in 106.8 HP and 120.68 TQ. 2017 roadglide.
Jason Powell I don’t work for them but in general they recommend a D&D 2 into 1 pipe. Zippers sells them so contact them to get the right one for your bike .
Two very different cylinder heads, so the cams really can not be compared. Similar gains can be had using the Red Shift 527's in a stock 103 TC engine though.
@@Zippersperformance Yeah, obviously BIG difference between 2 & 4 valve heads, but I was trying to find out what would be the closest equal to the 468 for me, thanks! Mine is stock except for Pro Pipe and FP3 so the 527's it will be when I get to it. Can I get them in gear drive if my runout isn't too bad?
according to reports on forums, and my personal exp at dealers, harley will void your engine warranty if anything other than harleys EPA certified parts are installed, yes meaning air cleaners, slip ons, tuners, anything that changes the air flow into or out of the engine. According to their settlement with the EPA they must void warranties when any non epa certified parts are installed starting in 2017. Now, i have heard of dealers standing behind parts they installed for their customers, that werent harley brand, but my take is if they didnt sell and install the parts and tune the bike, your SOL.
Hi Steve, look on our web site page for the 468, there are several dyno charts posted for 107, 114 and 117" engines. It rocks! www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams.html
Hey Zippers, My glide is at the shop having this cam installed right now with the DD Billet cat. I'm going to use the map I get from FP3 to tune it. How do u think that will be vs. a dyno tune?
don't forget about the Thundermax ECM self-tuner...and the fact you really should replace most of the harley power train and drive train parts w/aftermarket fueling, s&s, zippers, man o war, etc. HD engine parts, including SE are JUNK
I really don't know if you are reading this ; but the issue of mitigating high heat in air-cooled motors ; like the 103 and Mil-8 motors ; already been long resolved by using ceramic coating on tops of pistons, inside the heads, and inside exhaust header. All this water / oil head coolings for 103 , 107, 114 CI motors maybe not required ; short of just running a standard oil cooler for the entire motor. Just another example this motor company using bad engineering to solve simple problems..... There are others using this on many, many different air cooled platforms, with great success...... But no, HD has to do it the complicated expensive way.......People already just so fed up with this level of incompetence, only matter of time when people no longer hooked on riding on a Harley............... Does not matter ... Harley stock been in a steep nose dive last 7 years. People are fed up pouring money into these engines which are designed to fail. People not paying 20 to 30 thousand dollars for new bikes... I predict this company will be bankrupt inside of 5 years from now..... We have access to company balance sheets, showing the company way over extended on existing loans and credit to the tune of almost 1500 million dollars. This motor company not have that kind of cash to pay back..........Is only a matter of time now, before banks start calling these notes back over-due for payment............
Will a FP3 tuner work with this cam? I'm having the RS 468 installed end of February on my 17 RGS. Dealer recommended because I do not plan any other mods. I've read the PV2 is best..I do not plan to dyno...likely just can map for now. Thanks for the video
Ralph, what exhaust will you run? We are ThunderMax guys here, we have great maps for the 468 and ThunderMax. My understanding on the FP3 is to use a tablet when tuning with it as it give more access to tuning features than a phone does. Thanks for using the Mighty 468!
I just put the Zippers Red Shift 468 into my 2021 Fat Bob. Wow what a difference. Much thanks to Pete who set everything up and treated me like a king. His knowledge and understanding with the M8's couldn't be overstated. He talked me through everything and everything he said would happen, did ! No nonsense, no bull, just good advice and he was there for me from start to finish. Seriously good people !
Best bolt-in Cam ever made,..my 2017 M8 got a new life and pulls like a Train 👌🏻
I had the 468 installed 17RG OMG what a difference in power like night and day. What a great cam guys !! Thanks !!
Thank YOU, Ken!
John Mosca get rid of the head pipes with the Cat
Lose the stock headers!! Cat is your issue!!
@@johnmosca4648 what tuner did you use and why? I'm having the same install on my 17 RGS but with RCX 4.5 in slip-ons and keeping stock headers for the time being. Thank you
John Mosca you got 15 horsepower over stock, did you ever change ur slip on?
Just had the RS 468 cam installed in my 2017 RG. 🔥🔥🔥.. Do it!!
how much does it cost to install, I have a 2023 Road Glide that I want to put it in
Had mine installed today on my Ultra with new camplate and oil pump. Dyno’d at the shop Hp went from 85 to 105 and Tq from 109 to 122ft/lbs. 2017 107 VH power duals and high output slip ons, Arlen Ness big sucker intake and Dynojet Power Vision. Dealer said that it was the biggest increase they have seen from all cams for the M8.
Robbo67 did it void your warranty?
Probably did but have no probs. Out of warranty now
Robbo67, I have the exact same setup on my 17 RGS as far as power duals, Arlen ness BS and slip ons. However, Im running the bullshit FP3 and want to get this cam and the power vision tuner. Are you still satisfied with the cam? Why did you install a new cam plate and oil pump? thanks!
road glider. Hi mate, very happy with the cam. I had the FP3 at first but when I installed cam there wasn’t the FP3 Pro available and my guy uses Dynojet so did the Powervision. Did the cam plate and oil pump upgrade from S and S for piece of mind, at that stage Harley we’re having the issues with the oil scavenging performance of there product so did the upgrade for purely peace of mind, did I need it, probably no
@@robbo6799 THANKS BRO! HELL, SINCE ALREADY THERE ID PROBABLY CHANGE OIL PUMP TOO! THANKS FOR REPLY!
Just dynoed my Rs 468 in a 114. D&d billet cat, hpi 62mm throttle body, hpi ported and polished intake. 5.5 injectors. 118/133.
Just added this cam to my 18 sgs 107. Combined with vance&hines air cleaner, cobra true duals, and neighbor haters, let's just say it really is a rowdy beast now. Tuning with the fp3 starting today so we'll see how it turns out.
Installed RS468 in my 2019 M8 114. Awesome performance over stock HD cam. Also upgrade stock with S&S, Tab, Thundermax EFI. Notable change in performance and riding experience. Thanks Zippers.
This video sold me on the 468. It is inside my little 2018 Hot Rod Deluxe! I've only put 2700 miles on it since install, but I am ecstatic about it. Thanks for a great product!
AWESOME! We are glad you are pleased with your Red Shift Cams RS468.
I’d love to shake Adam’s hand and just thank him for being a deadly person and for all the information he give us
I’m sold on the M8...this set up is almost the same power at my big twin stage 4 118hp/119tq
I just put a RS468 in my 2021 RGS with the 114. Added a trask intake, khromewerks headpipe, TAB zombies and a powervision. The thing rides amazing, big upgrade. and sounds PERFECT
what tune are you running? is there a special tune on powervision for a cam? or u got a fuelmoto file/?
I put a 468 Cam in my 2019 Limited. I put S-E Stage 4 Cylinder Heads along with an S & S 128 cu in Big Bore Kit. T-Max ECU, D & D Billet Cat Exhaust, S & S Cam Plate/Oil Pump, S-E Extreme Flow Intake, I polished the Runners, Ports, Combustion Chambers, Plenum to a mirror finish without altering the port design. I run Amsoil Lubrication Products for the best performance & longevity. I have no idea of what the output is. All I know is that it's very strong with 2-up and a rocket with just me on it.
Thanks John!
Dropping mine off at the show tomorrow cant wait should be done monday!!!
Installed the RS 468 in my 2019 deluxe (107). This is an awesome cam. 105HP and 115 torque. Could likely get a few more HP with a different exhaust setup.
What exhaust did you go with?
@@SteveTheGasMan Firebrand, loose cannon slip on
I have the woods 22x V&H pro pipe K&N a/c along with a thundermax tuner in my 2018 Breakout and getting 120/130 at the rear.
I definitely will have to check this cam out. I have a 2017 Road King, and this looks like what I am wanting.
You ever get this cam inatalled?
Thanks, I’m gonna look to modify in the spring✊🏼
RIGHT ON!
2020 Heritage Softail 114 Extreme Vent Ac Rinehart 2-1 468cam with PV flash
108hp and 128tq. Putting TTS Mastertune for efficiency options.
I'm getting one installed in a few weeks, can't wait.
You guys rock !!!
Luckily, I am close in Pa. My plans are to bring my 2014 SGS down in the Spring and have one of your "Muscle Kits" installed at your place.
I wonr be wasting my money on a harley stage 3 kit. When the warranty is up ill def be buying this cam
Did the stage3 at 100 miles on my 18 breakout that came with the 114 & is now a 117ci screamer.
I am always looking for more power & am thinking of adding this next.
It's only a 2yr factory warranty just do it & enjoy your ride.
Traded that bike for a 18 ultra limited & going to install this cam.
Thanks for the info. I'm still considering the full 475c camchest from S&S, though. But you guys did great work setting the stage for everyone to meet or beat.
yeah same but with the gear drive and the idle lope more aggressive
The 475 is a beast
@@roncoburn7771 EDIT: I didnt' get this cam, disregard this comment.
I'm actually going with the Wood 22X cam because it gives way more total gains in HP across the dynograph instead of just at the top end.
Way more torque than any other cam at low end all the way up to 4500RPM, and it climbs making good HP all the way to 5500RPM.
I'll be getting that cam soon enough after I figure out a solution to the compensator upgrade for the fat boy.
@@FranBunnyFFXII Hey, I have a Fat Boy also and I'm considering a cam. For me, it's all about the sound. I don't need more power from my 114". How do you like the sound from your Wood? The S&S 475 sounds the best but you need to be racing to see any difference from stock.
@@tyroneshoelace4872 I never got the Woods cam. I decided to go with the SE8-447 Cam because it was 68$ shipped to me from Ebay, it only had like 800miles on it. I couldnt' say no to a 70$ swap part, since I was replacing the oil pump at the time.
I definitely use all the power of the cam and more. Just look at my youtube channel. I break 120 all the time. I've had my bike out to 130 multiple times. I ride fast and hard.
I am debating about an aftermarket cam now, and the ONLY concern I have is acceleration out to 130mph. I've rev limited my bike to 5500RPM(Effective, 5700 redline, 200 threshhold). So I'm looking at cams on the sole basis of their acceleration performance.
I'm mildly considering a 122 set of pistons and cylinders. Stopping at stage 3.
My bike does 0-60 under 4, and 80 to 120 in 10.5. I would like faster though.
Just purchased the 468 kit for my new 2020 RG 107 will be coupled with a powervision tuner ,trask air cleaner ,horsepower inc stubby exhaust....getting it broken in with a dyno run and then dyno tune the top end will send my results when finished...super stoked!!!
I have a stage 3 114” with D&D 2-1 exhaust. I want to upgrade to this cam and tune it with the power vision. I saw what H-D dealer in Missouri did with this cam. I’m hoping I can develop power they did. I think they hit 139# of torque & something like 112hp. If I can make mine gain power like that I’d be happy. Harley dealer where I bought my bike and the ones who did they stage 3 gave me I feel unrealistic expectations. I haven’t Dyno’d it yet. May wait until cam is installed.
sokodad I will be having this cam installed in January on my 18 with the stage 3 build. It will be done by the dealer in Mo. I will let you know how it works out.
Idk i guess it depends what youre looking for. The Wood Performance 22xe cam has insane lower end power
What other parts would I have to change if I put in this "bolt-in" cam in my stock 2020 Low Rider S 114ci?
Thank you!
Installed the 468 last week. I love the boost in power. I added a high flow air cleaner and V&H Propipe, FP3, and 2020 oil pump while I was at it. My question has to do with idle speed. I have it set for 950 which seems a bit low. Is there a recommended idle speed for this cam?
thats what i yhink half these cams are idleing to low ....would like to know if you raised it and to what rev ?
@@damienfrigo4734 I have mine set at 1050
1050 is where I'm at n happy with it
I'm sold putting this cam in 18 rg with dand d 2 to 1
RIGHT ON!
Outstanding
Why is the 508 hard to tune? Ordered it for my 119 build im doing and was just curious what my tuner should look for
"508?"
Do you have numbers for a 2018 107 which has a stage 4 kit installed and a Reinhardt exhaust with a power vision flash tuner... My question is how would the 468 preform?
I’m going down tomorrow and gittn er sun!
What RS cam and tuner do you recommend for a 23 road glide special with D&D billet cat 2-1 exhaust, S&S Stealth Air Stinger teardrop air cleaner?
Wow I need this for my 17 m8 ultra
Pretend you put a H-D 131ci kit on your bike a while ago. But now your warranty is up you decide to throw on a thunder max and you’re ready to rock; what cam would you put in it? Hypothetically of course.
Is it recommended to replace the factory intake air cleaner on a 21 Heritage 114 when doing this cam? I keep getting told it already is a hi flow setup
How will this cam work along with the Stage 4 Kit? Thanks
Also want to know if there is anything more suited to the 114 with CNC heads
I wish they would answer this lol I want to do the same thing to mine!!
I would like to know the answer to this question also
DITTO!
I think the cat took their tongue
Have you put the stage 4 heads on the flow bench?
hello I normally run a S&S 465 cam in a 114ci and it ran great, came on around 2200 and kept going to next shift.
I up graded to a stage 4 117ci se heads 64 throttle body also it has an s&s super street 2 into one and tried to use my s&s 465 cam....it didn't perform.
I then put in the se 515 cam that came with the kit, better but comes on way to high for me ,I like the power coming on early. what cam do u recommend. the bike is a 2022 fat boy upgraded to 117ci stage 4...please advice.
ride ability is very important.
whats the LSA of these 468's? is it turbo friendly or below 110 degrees?
Will it work well with a M8 117?
I'm going to have call you out, I simply didn't learn anything from this product video except the twin cam and M8 heads are different (which I already know).. and you said cam and push rods might be all that is needed to install..but there seemed to be no references to any other popular cams, how or why it's as good or better
what do i need parts to install this cam on my 2020 RGS? I think am fine with the OEM oil pump. what about valves? push rods? any other parts?
Just bought 2020 road glide limited. Figuring intake , exhaust , tune , and this cam. Sound about right ??
468 with ported heads kibble white stock size valves and a tune with the cat out fat bob 114 139 hp and 135 tork what a animal runs to 6500 strong
Back in the 1990's? One of the performance companies, Zippers or F.R maybe, offered a 4 valve head. I don't think it lasted. Never heard anything about it.
Would the Red Shift 468 cam be a good choice for a Harley M8 , 114- engine used mainly for touring?
YES, the RS468 would be GREAT in a 114 used mainly for touring.
I have the Harley se street tuner and the smart pro tuner on my 19 Road King Special. What kind of numbers can I get with the 468 cam? Also have aftermarket full exhaust.
Will this cam work with a stage 3 114 with 11.0 pistons?
Would the SE Pro Tuner be able to tune the RS468 cam. Additional upgrades, SE 64 mm throttle body, 64 mm manifold, SE Heavy Breather, D&D Billet Cat Big Bore Baffle. 2022 Street Glide Special. Tks
I have a 20/20 roguelite special a 114 with this 468 cam do the same for 114 as it does 107 or do you have another Cam that you would recommend for my 114
Yes, the RS468 cam will work for your 114. We also have the RS472 that is designed to be a Midrange to Top-end cam, but maintains Low-end torque.
RS468- www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams/
RS472- www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-472-m8-cams/
Give us a call or send us an email. We can help you determine what you need.
I have a 2019 softail deluxe and already have true dual fishtail exhaust and a screaming eagle high flow intake otw. Plan to buy these cams and a tuner. I feel that my drive belt is so small and will not hold up to my aggressive driving. Is this a concern and should I plan for a chain conversion?
Hey guys. What’s the minimum I need to put this cam in my 2017 M8 road glide? There’s other bolt in cams out there that advertise as being able to use stock springs stock push rods and stock lifters. What about yours
Would you recommend a 2:1 header or true duals or 2:1:2 system?
I guess it’s all personal preference and depending on what your goin for if your goin for horsepower gains the probably a 2-1 full system or if you don’t care about horsepower gains but like the power it gives out after it’s done then you can do either a 2-2 or 2-1 if u don’t care about horsepower gain it’s all personal preference neither one will be bad but 2-1 if you want that little bit more power from the extra compression that a 2-1 works better
@@Alphaaussiegaming Thanks for your input Patrick. I went with an S&S Sidewinder no cat system. After I made my choice and made my appointment for cam install and dyno tune in September my mechanic tells me he thinks I would have been better off with a catted version of my system. Can't win sometimes.
Would this cam benefit from work to the stock heads such as bigger valves and porting?
Quick question, is there any other suggested up grades needed when changing this cam? Bearings, cam plate etc? Which cam upgrade would you suggest for a 2014 Heritage?
For M8s: ALWAYS change bearings when changing cams, a late Harley oil pump and end cap with O-ring.
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2014 Heritage: Our Red Shift Cams RS527
www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-527-cams/
Thanks for the future information.
I have the 468 in my 2020 RGS SS 128 kit. I want to go bigger.. what the next best RS cam ?
Will Redshift be offering any gear drive cams for the M8?
The Alpha Male good question. I don’t know for sure but I think so . Check their website or call them to know for sure.
Is there one for the new fatbob107? Cam & pushrods? How much of a tq difference would it roughly make? I would also want to know the cost.
I'm kinda curious as to what kind of dyno numbers you are regularly seeing on a M8 with a SE Stage 3 build, FuelMoto 2-1-2 jackpot headers (or comparable) and 4.5" mufflers. Right now that's what I've got on a 18 Road Glide Special with the crappy Street Tuner and I'm running 115TQ and 109HP
What's the cost on the 468. Have a 17 street glide special with 728 mi
Will it make it run hotter? Will it be less reliable? Asking for a friend...
Is the 468 suitable for a 124cube or to small? Touring bike want torque from 2k
I need oil pump and cam plate with this cam and fuel programmer what do you guys recommend ????
Would the 468 be good for the 103? If not which one would you guys put in a 103?
Any reviews on the Redshift 552?
Great explanation. So with a good flowing intake on the heads, does the current throttle body flow sufficient CFM's if one was to say work/port the exhaust only? Reason I ask is HD recommends the larger throttle body and injector with their CNC ported heads (stage 4) for the M8. Maybe porting just the exhaust only on the stock heads might yield some good gains?
Scott Placella why was Harley-Davidson not smart enough to figure this out
From what I hear , stock top end flows great !!
what about for the road glide cvo 2018
How about the MPG ?
Any numbers?
What do you recommend for the 2015 roadglide special 103???
What was the dyno numbers
Without a salesman answering. Anyone have any pros or cons to just swapping the cam vice swapping push tubes and all? I know the installation is simpler with replacing everything. What day any of you? Thanks!
More labor is involved with not swapping pushrods because you would have to remove the heads. You should also ALWAYS change cam bearings when performing a cam swap.
Cam swap for twin cam recommend.?
Will you guys make a cam for the TS111?
I already have RCX 4.5 slip-ons installed. I plan to add the RC tormentor headpipes later but for now stay with stock.
I really dont want to go the Thundermax route with just a stage 2. Would a map be available for the PV2 or would this be a question for the tuner manufacturer?
Still learning and with videos such as yours, helps me greatly in making a sound decision I am comfortable living with. Thanks again
Hey Ralph, we only have T-Max maps available at this time. I believe Fuel Moto has PV maps tho. Thanks for the nice comments!
@@Zippersperformance was this a thunder max auto tuner on this bike?
Do u have to run a tuner after u install that cam?
Absolutely.
Slip on exhaust is about the only mod you don't need to tune... anything that opens flow is going to need tuned. Intake/high flow aircleaner. Cam, ported high flow heads, change of bore and stroke and of course free flowing exhaust... all need a tuner. Find one of those Facebook groups dedicated to modifications to the bike/motor you have. Just reading posts and comments you will pick up a lot of details.
So interesting about the intake vs exhaust valve flow numbers. Why do you think Harley did this? I'm sure they know these numbers and have a reason or it. Fuel Economy or Emissions maybe?
Probably because emissions of CO2...
Emissions and noise. No conspiracies.
simple...emissions..
Where can I order this !! For my 17 ultra m8 I need it I want it !!!
On the 117 what are the numbers?
We have a few 117 with RS468 dynographs on our website.
www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams/
what are the numbers at SAE 5 smoothing ?
My question is how does it perform with "competition" exhaust? There's a lot of bogus information out there regarding how the M8 behaves when the factory pipes are replaced with high flow pipes. Check my video where I replaced with Dan Moto (cloned twobrothers). Now that my warranty is expired it is time to replace that factory cam but I don't want to put the factory head pipes back on even with slip-ons installed...
sharkzf6 I have DD billet cat 2 I to 1 exhaust with a big sucker air intake with this cam. Dyno with power vision results in 106.8 HP and 120.68 TQ. 2017 roadglide.
What is your best cam for ab2016 dyna low rider S with a 117 twin cam build? Thank you!
Depends on the cylinder head configuration. Give us a call and we can get you squared away
What exhaust do you recommend for stock heads with this cam?
Jason Powell I don’t work for them but in general they recommend a D&D 2 into 1 pipe. Zippers sells them so contact them to get the right one for your bike .
Wanted to know if I could get the 468 cam for a demo I'm doing?
G14 G14 what kind of Demo are you doing?
What would be the equivalent of this exact cam for a 103 TC?
Two very different cylinder heads, so the cams really can not be compared. Similar gains can be had using the Red Shift 527's in a stock 103 TC engine though.
@@Zippersperformance Yeah, obviously BIG difference between 2 & 4 valve heads, but I was trying to find out what would be the closest equal to the 468 for me, thanks! Mine is stock except for Pro Pipe and FP3 so the 527's it will be when I get to it. Can I get them in gear drive if my runout isn't too bad?
Will this 468 cam effect the warranty on the motor?
Aharleyguy yes
according to reports on forums, and my personal exp at dealers, harley will void your engine warranty if anything other than harleys EPA certified parts are installed, yes meaning air cleaners, slip ons, tuners, anything that changes the air flow into or out of the engine.
According to their settlement with the EPA they must void warranties when any non epa certified parts are installed starting in 2017. Now, i have heard of dealers standing behind parts they installed for their customers, that werent harley brand, but my take is if they didnt sell and install the parts and tune the bike, your SOL.
Any dyno numbers on the 114 yet?
Hi Steve, look on our web site page for the 468, there are several dyno charts posted for 107, 114 and 117" engines. It rocks! www.zippersperformance.com/red-shift-468-m8-cams.html
Can you put RS468 in a bone stock M8
They said in the video it was a stock M8.
I want one !!!
Do you have a cam for 114 m8?
They clearly stated this cam was for both the 107 & 114
why don't your organization do metric bikes Kawasaki Vulcan vaquero is a very good platform?
How many shops you have across the country if something fails? Harley would have void our warranties so they're not repairing that engine.
You posted this 2 months ago,you've already used up a significant amount of their crappy 2yr factory warranty.
Hey Zippers, My glide is at the shop having this cam installed right now with the DD Billet cat. I'm going to use the map I get from FP3 to tune it. How do u think that will be vs. a dyno tune?
Buy a ThunderMax and be done with it. We can send you one with the map you need installed - bolt on and ride!
Zipper's Performance Products
8 hundred!! Dang. I'll have to run the FP3 till I save up for it. Thx
Its a chain drive CAM ?
Yes
don't forget about the Thundermax ECM self-tuner...and the fact you really should replace most of the harley power train and drive train parts w/aftermarket fueling, s&s, zippers, man o war, etc. HD engine parts, including SE are JUNK
I really don't know if you are reading this ; but the issue of mitigating high heat in air-cooled motors ; like the 103 and Mil-8 motors ; already been long resolved by using ceramic coating on tops of pistons, inside the heads, and inside exhaust header. All this water / oil head coolings for 103 , 107, 114 CI motors maybe not required ; short of just running a standard oil cooler for the entire motor. Just another example this motor company using bad engineering to solve simple problems.....
There are others using this on many, many different air cooled platforms, with great success...... But no, HD has to do it the complicated expensive way.......People already just so fed up with this level of incompetence, only matter of time when people no longer hooked on riding on a Harley...............
Does not matter ... Harley stock been in a steep nose dive last 7 years. People are fed up pouring money into these engines which are designed to fail. People not paying 20 to 30 thousand dollars for new bikes... I predict this company will be bankrupt inside of 5 years from now..... We have access to company balance sheets, showing the company way over extended on existing loans and credit to the tune of almost 1500 million dollars. This motor company not have that kind of cash to pay back..........Is only a matter of time now, before banks start calling these notes back over-due for payment............
Will a FP3 tuner work with this cam? I'm having the RS 468 installed end of February on my 17 RGS. Dealer recommended because I do not plan any other mods. I've read the PV2 is best..I do not plan to dyno...likely just can map for now. Thanks for the video
Ralph, what exhaust will you run? We are ThunderMax guys here, we have great maps for the 468 and ThunderMax. My understanding on the FP3 is to use a tablet when tuning with it as it give more access to tuning features than a phone does. Thanks for using the Mighty 468!
@SouthM1G I'm running the 468's with the FP3 , very impressed with the power gain. Exhaust is Rinehart 2 into 1, SE air filter. Truly a tire shredder.
Shut up and take my money!