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Fun fact about wolves: in the wild, a wolf pack has no "alpha". It's just a family group consisting of a breeding pair (the parents) & their pups. Wolves *in captivity* do have alphas & betas, but only because they only have so much space in their enclosures, which they have to fight over
Yeah theyve done tracking studies on wolves and tbey all have strict borders to their areas and respect each others terrain to a very impressive amount.
Yeah but that's wolf science, not human. Human's hierarchical structures can be described as a "chieftain" structure. Usually there's one elder or group of elders that call the shots, or whatever dude was best at clobbering everyone else and barking out orders. This has held true for all of human society all the way up to today, where it still reigns true.
You're not going to believe me when I say this, but I actually commissioned LockJawArts for a fursuit head, and I was waiting for an update when the murder happened. I was, like everyone else, shocked. I remember calling PayPal a few days later and requesting a refund for my commission. The staff, understandably, were shocked by what I was telling them. It was a hell of a day, really.
I have furry friends and anti-furry friends. If you ask an anti-furry about famous members of the fandom, they’ll name a criminal. If you ask a furry about famous members, they’ll name someone who just has a colorful fursuit and can do backflips in it lmao
Yeah same here, I don't have anything against furries but people who are anti-furry tend to only ever, ever, focus on the bad people in it, just like I could focus on the gamers out there who shot their families over halo. But I don't, there will always be bad people in every fanfom
An astonishing amount of anti-furs that I've interacted with were also the type of people who were... Well... Let's just say they liked the cut of a certain dictator with a funny mustache's gib, and fully support his ideology... Take that as you will.
@@TypicalUkraine_ Ah, well then, clearly people have no legitimate reason to dislike furries, and anyone who does can be easily dismissed as nazi, convenient.
Pool maintenance guy here. I use pool shock where I work. However just putting the powdered chlorine in a bottle and shattering it won't have such a wide spread effect. It was probably combined with muriatic acid then thrown. It could be different kinds of chlorine. But at the most basic level it was probably calcium hypochorite combined with hydrochloric acid (aka muriatic acid). I clean off chlorine build up on chlorinators with muriatic acid. It produces a sensation like that described in the video. For me it has always had a pretty limited range. But a purposefully malicious mix could have that kind of range. Especially if it entered the ventilation system. Unfortunately all of the ingredients are available at any hardware store and even available at the hotel if they had a pool available. It might not have been a furry at all. Also this is a chemical attack, not a bio attack. Who ever did this is either pool maintenance guy of some sort or a chemist. I bet on the hotel pool maintenance guy being responsible. If the hotel had a pool.
I don't care who you are but the thought of sleeping in a hotel room minding your own business and then all of the sudden you're hit with like a gas attack is absolutely terrifying to me for some reason
I think it was an Anti fur who did it but yeah no matter who they are of course it’s scary normal people would be scared by it and we were too especially since we didn’t know if we were gonna get someone attacking our future conventions
@@jayclips5721 there are also suspicions that the actual culprit was a racist furry who had been banned from the convention named Magnus Diridian, or the "confederate fursuiter."
Wolfie participated in what is now known as "vulture culture". It's a subculture of people who are interested in and often participate in home taxidermy and preservation of animal parts.
@@petrjemyval Look it up. Wolfie went way too far, but most people in the culture are incredibly respectful of the animals they dress. They find roadkill or animal remains out in nature to dress. It's taxidermy hobbyists.
@@petrjemyval Yeah i have some animal parts buried in my yard, they died naturally or were killed by local stray cats. I also bought some rat bones and a lucky rabbit's foot last month.
I truly do believe it is good for the furry community to talk about the bad, not just defend it with all of one's might. I've sometimes seen a few individuals defend the community with all their might, sometimes talking about how the fandom isn't all sexual stuff and things like that. But it is important to recognize that part of the community, historically it has always been sexual to a good portion of the fandom.
They'd be doing their community a huge favor to actually seek out and stigmatized these people. Yet for some reason..... it's never "ThAt BiG oF a PrObLeM" Idk, if I thought a community I was a part of ran the risk of being misconstrued as some sort of sexual devisncy...... I'd do everything I can to make the people responsible feel as unwelcome and alien as humanly possible.
@@Nixias_ really? Because all I seem to hear from the furry community is "oh that never happens, we're actually the friendliest people on the planet" Pretty sure just about every fucking predator on the planet said something similar before they were ever outed and exposed.
While I cannot speak for "Wolfy and the gang" I can say that stray dogs often find friendship with homeless people, many homeless folks take in lost dogs. If your dog is lost, check your local homeless camp. Some may not want to give them back however most will be very happy there new friend gets to go home. It's a kinship kind of thing like "hey buddy, you lost too? Me too"
Basically the entire plot for Oliver and Company(i literally just watched it twice yesterday lol fell asleep immediately the first time and my girlfriend wanted to make sure we actually watched it because she fell asleep too lol)
One of my dogs got lost in the past. They found this lovely gentleman who stayed I the forest down the road. I agreed to let him keep my little dude, and I leave bags of dog food and some money for the two.
I was actually online best friends with Zel on deviantArt when I was 13 years old, and the girls from kansas were my close friends as well. That godawful SprinkZel drawing is unfortunately mine, and my oc Sprinkle was 14 :/ Just got reminded of him and looked him up, crazy to see him featured in such a popular video. AMA lol Btw, there is a mistake in the video. You talked about Zel's artwork, but none of it was his. He couldn't draw, but he commissioned/requested a lot of fanart and would repost it on his page, which is why the artstyle is so vastly different in each image. "Thinking highly of the man for his artwork" idk what this is based on but that's not true since he didn't draw any of it. We were only friends with him because we thought he was friendly and fun to talk to. I mean we were 12/13 and even our artwork was better than his lol
im actually one of the kansas girls, this is correct he always commissioned, or, at some points would request inappropriate art from us as well. it’s so weird to see him in an iceburg video because i, yknow, am apart of this. he also did not send us videos of him having relations with the dog btw, if that happened we would have blocked him immediately. hes gross!!
"I couldn't have committed this crime, because I was doing something suspect somewhere else." Yeah, acting like a wolf in the woods isn't illegal, but you get what I mean.
I'm gonna be real. I have a slight bit more respect for 4Chan after watching all these videos. Sure they may have a twisted sense of humor and aren't exactly the most righteous bunch when it comes to a lot of cases, But when the time comes, mostly with animal abuses, their talents can really show.
I absolutely love it at 21:06 where he says the comments are idolizing Wolfie, and the top one is "you inspired me to not be what you are" true idol! Love the video Wavy!
I find it hypocritical when people claim they'd rather kill a human than an animal when they eat animals. Last time a cow had to die for that ribeye. I love animals but i also eat meat and i have slaughtered animals before to eat them. I really dislike most humans but i would never kill one unless it was to defend me or someone else.
Yeah there's a lot more he could have talked about if he wanted to get deeper into it, but honestly I'd prefer less as we already look bad enough to outsiders.
@@crandria2001 You're all nothing but pedophiles and degenerates or you associate with them and enable the behavior. The reputation of furries cannot go any lower. Absolutely disgusting community.
Honestly the whole situation with Wolfie just sounds like normal taxidermy to me. There's no indicators that she is a criminal and seems perfectly pleasant. Pet taxidermy isn't unheard of and it sounds more like just a situation born from a picture taken out of context.
i agree. I guess it was on this list because it was infamous but this just seems like a chain of bad events with no particular wrongdoing (except maybe the poorly secured dog).
@@KerReeeeeshe believed it was her friends pet, who might’ve confused an escaped dog for a stray, or just napped them. there’s no proof that wolfie had anything to do with procuring the animal
For what it's worth, huskies like Shadow / Rigsby have a strong tendency towards running without taking into account their environment properly. It's very believable a husky would both run away from it's back yard and run into traffic without looking properly.
I mean from what I heard about the story I don't think she did anything too him and the angle that dog died due to accident and its head was taken post death was more believable than the other one where they claim they broke in and killed the dog to take it's skull.
I think she was probably innocent, owner said dog been missing for awhile- believable they thought it was a stray. Dog escaped first owner, not surprising it escaped the second one... And then wham. I think the internet doesn't truly have noble intentions, rather they enjoying a good with hunt. Get off on the hate and getting to destroy someone's lives while saving or revenging another... It was never about a fair trail, they're always guilty. . I remember someone committed suicide because they got framed for something they didn't do and reddit/4chan relentlessly attacked the guy. . Mob vigilante shit isn't the best way to do things
If I had a nickel for every furry convention I’ve heard of that got sabotaged with potentially life-threatening attacks, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
@@louisc6687 actually not furry definition: a furry is somebody who creates characters with both human and animal characteristics some time they dress up as these characters aka cosplay them tho therians and animal kin are the people who want to be animals and yes those people are mentally ill
i think VR might still be too new to see cases popping up just yet but wouldnt be surprised if that changes bc ive seen a lot of weirdly mixed spaces (with both kids & adults) when i was first trying it out
so you chill in only furry vr chats and literally pretend to have sex while using said vr? cause thats literally all over the internet about furries being complete degenerates lmfao.....ought to be bullied off the internet lmao
You'd be surprised how many places you'd assume there would be cameras yet there aren't. I worked at a clinic that had none despite housing medications, personal medical information of patients, ect.
there aren't really camras in or really even near stairways in around every hotel I've been in, but there would probably be some camras in the hallways that have stairwells. but then again with the amount of people in that hotel there also could've been a lot of people using them, plus I doubt the camras tgat could be in the hallways to be pointing near the entrances to the stairwells themselves, they would probably be in a corner of a hallway. the police needed to be thorough but I could imagine there would be seemingly too many variables complicating the case.
I always used to listen to this channel to go to sleep, but honestly with how many ads there are on UA-cam now, I don't know if I can anymore. Still love the channel, just beginning to hate UA-cam...
same ): i have a sleep playlist but i keep being woken up by the ads and i really don’t have it in me to pay for premium just to avoid ads. some channels are worse than others it seems.
I knew Vex (Volty) personally for over a decade. We used to hang out all of the time. We lost contact and she went down a dark path and into drugs and such and Jax was a really bad influence on her. So sad, I really wouldn't have thought she would be capable of such a horrible thing. My condolences to the victim and his family.
I'm someone who somewhat knew Volty as well. We went to the same high school and met in art class, she was a junior when I was a senior and though we never actually hung out, we would talk a bit in art class or during lunch from time to time. I lost contact with her after I graduated in 2009 and I didn't meet up with her again until around 2015 at ironically a small little furry meet that she invited me too, gave me a ride and everything since I didn't have a car at the time and I got to meet her boyfriend Jax. I immediately got some weird vibes from him but I didn't want to be judgmental and just assumed he had some social anxiety but Volty was still as sweet (but shy) like she was in high school. We didn't talk after that meet though because I remember she said she was going through some life struggles and that was the last I heard from her. It wasn't until early November of last year (2022) when I learned about the murder she committed with her boyfriend and I was shocked to hear that, the brutality of it was just insane and though Volty didn't pull the trigger, the fact that she went along with it and sent out that text, it was shocking. I agree with you that I feel like Jax was a horrible influence on her and more than likely played a big part in her self-destruction because she already didn't have the best mental health.But unfortunately they committed murder and have to pay for it.
The metal allergy is really a thing. I don't know how rare it is though. My cousin had it for years. She cannot touch any metal, spoons, door handles, etc, because when she did, she got rashes all over her hand and lower arm.
Silver metal allergies aren't super rare, I don't think. It's common enough to where many flutes have gold plated lip-plates for those with allergies to silver metals. Usually it isn't that strong
I have a nickel and silver allergy but it only flares up when it's constantly rubbing on my skin (think jean buttons) or if I wear a piercing or earring that isn't an anallergenic material, it's very painful and very real
@@VampiricVik I have a nickel allergy too, jeans buttons (and when I was a teen even the rivets) are the worst. I went through a stage where I turned all my silver jewellery black as well. Now I only buy specific jewellery brands, that I know aren’t alloys, or coated.
I totally forgot these murders happened, it happened while I was sleeping I was 14-15 years old I lived and still do live right near that house they died. Never saw them, never met them but I always pass by the house wondering what happened. Thank god I saw this video I never knew how they died, our neighbors said it was just a family member who killed them and that’s what I believed until now. It’s really sad and the house is still as it once was I feel terrible for them and I believe my mother and I appeared on the news to talk about the shooting that woke me up
That poor dog. Seeing its lifeless eyes. I love dogs as a pet. They are fun and are like a small child that cherishes you. It’s so sad to just see a head.
its good defense , i would use same defense and win my case if i was in his shoes ....he didn't harm anyone than himself ...thats all...people should learn from him in winning their case...but for those end up 50 years ...its different case when people went all the way..that is different crime...look at elon musk ...he went molested his pirvate jet female staff and he tweet about it ,also he was caught from his employees seeing him naked with one of female ceo of one of his companies together in nasty position ...and nothing done about it due to power and wealth of this man ...$200 billion...and nobody dare touch him ...until he bought twitter and paid off one of user to keep it hush hush on his tweets by money
I agree. I was never a wolfkin but I am an autistic who had (and still has) a special interest in animals skulls and taxidermy. Specifically as a way to honor the animals as I also was a devout and very careful vegetarian, mostly vegan minus eggs from my chickens and pigeons. It's really common among neurodivergent and emo kids lmao, I had friends who would help me preserve raccoon skins and whatnot. But there was also a disgusting dude who claimed to do the same thing who we layer found out was a zoophile, r@pist, and animal torturer, so it's a genuine concern to have. If your kids are obsessed with dead animals, like watch them and make sure they're not doing weird sh!t at least.
@@fungustheclown666 I can relate to this. I'm neurodivergent and adore animals. Taxidermy is actually an important art form and without preserving animals the way we do, hundreds of species would be completely lost to time with no way for scientists to study them or the public to see them in museums and be educated. Western culture especially, outside of those who hunt or are into oddities, seems to find the keeping of animal parts repulsive. Yet they wear leather and fur, use down pillows and coats, have sheepskin rugs or cowhide purses, feather dusters, etc. and eat the remains of animals. In other cultures, animal preservation isn't so taboo. And I don't think it should be so frowned upon when done respectfully.
Yeah! I have a cute taxidermy turtle my mother gave me and I don’t think it’s a bad thing, I actually think it’s better then letting the turtle rot. Plus, he’s cute, I mean, cmon.
I'm actually VERY surprised you included the murder committed by Volty (Vex) and their boyfriend mainly because I actually knew Volty when I was in high school. Volty was a grade below me (they were a junior when I was a senior) and we had the same art class and that's how we met through a mutual friend at the time. I wasn't necessarily a "friend" friend with Volty because I had bad social anxiety and I could tell they did too so we mostly just had small talks in the art class and occasionally at lunch period. I eventually lost contact with her after I graduated high school (2009) and we didn't reconnect until around 2015 where I met with them and got to meet her boyfriend and at the time, I did get some "off" vibes but I just chalked it up to social awkwardness. I didn't hear from Volty after that as she admitted she was going through some life and mental health problems and it wasn't until late 2022 when I learned about what really happened with Volty and the murder and I was beyond shocked because the brutality of the murder. It just didn't seem like Volty at al because when I remembered her, Volty was quite nice and open albeit painfully shy. But I then saw that it actually did make our local news stations and it showed her picture and yep, it was Volty and her boyfriend... It was insane to learn and it helped put into place why Volty had been so inactive on their art social media for so long.
@@NDoesFunnyStuffAndPlaysGames23 It's just one of those cases of being shocked when you hear a story in a video like this (or out in public) of someone you knew or were acquainted with because locally it seems like a small story and you don't realize that it can sometimes make archive documentation like this you know? lol
I lived in San Antonio at the time and I remember the Blackheart story. The story comes down to if you believe her or not. If you believe her, no wrong was done. Her story is: friend's dog(as she knew it) got hit by a car, dog died and she began to taxidermy the head. If you don't, then its possible she did everything from kidnapping the dog to the murder. Then yes, many crimes committed.
I know Vex from the last case. Dated her for a small bit but she toyed with my feelings. So its not entirely surprising she ended up that way eventually. But I already knew of the incident and clicked on the video just to see if it was covered
@@Silversurfergio Yeah I really did. I remember the day my friend sent the article to me. I was at work and I was pretty surprised. He apparently got the article from his mom as he was friends with her as well
I met a furry once, he was actually looking into joining a college I was interested in entering. He was a nice guy. (No he was not dressed in a fursuit, I learned about the furry part when I followed him on Twitter.) Moral of the story. Not all furries are weird.
Ok, but the weird ones should still be criticized and talk about. I know it's not every furry that's bad, but when you don't take care of the bad part, the stereotype sticks.
I honestly really love how you've covered these stories. No unwarranted hate, no bias or ridicule, just retelling of the facts and details. I've seen a lot of people cover these sorts of stories, except that they always have to make remarks against the community as a whole. Really, yes, we are harmless funseekers, by and large. It is very important to cover the dark side of any fandom, especially ours in some ways, but I appreciate it when a creator keeps it neutral and doesn't openly attack us. I hope you'll do a part 2 of this series :)
Love your content Wavy, tho I do miss when you explain things like the origin of memes and such but this content is always a treat, hope you can get back to making deep dives into memes and such, keep up the good work
Maybe he’s run out of memes that could translate into a full-length and high-quality video? If you have some ideas they might help him make more videos of that type.
As a fellow furry myself I would very glad participate in the crusade against these psychos. It should be up to us good furries to destroy the evil ones at all costs!
that wolf kin girl had really straight forward answers to people's questions about it. Real weirdo but sounds like there was basically no evidence that they actually killed the dog. Just 4-chan being 4-chan
Yeah, I think she really was just asked to taxidermy it after it died accidentally, it's a bit weird but people get their pets taxidermied all the time
@@Operngeist1 I wouldn't exactly call it taxidermy but I guess for lack of a better word...regardless it's hardly illegal if the pet died by an act of 'god' so to say and not her hand which with her calm straight answers I really doubt she did but is just like she says. The internet often jumps to conclusions.
@@GravesLilDarkAngel There was a situation kinda like this one that happened in my state in Ashville, North Carolina. This oogle couple (oogle is a person who trainhops/hitchhikes across the country, and usually are more edgy than normal people, kinda just like a punk homeless person) was in town and supposedly they found a dead cat, which they proceeded to carve a pentagram into it with some other carvings, hang it up in the trees and posted pictures on facebook saying "WE R DA KAT KILLAZ" but in the comments stated that they found it dead already and did all that. Obviously alot of people didn't believe that story and thought they killed it. I don't believe they killed it cause I've hung out and hitchhied with edgy people like that and they're just edgy. But t's still disturbng what they did to the cat because it was for no reason. There was alot of posts about the couple being spread across facebook in my area
cutting the dog's head off is just as disgusting as killing it. The defence that people "get pets taxidermied all the time" is BS. People also abuse animals all the time, but that doesn't make it right. Hope the wolfkin girl gets some kind of karmic retribution.
@@SeanORaigh taxiderming a dog is just as disgusting as killing it? Hard disagree there. Its weird and since it wasn't her dog she shouldn't have done it but people have done far worst things and faced even smaller consequences than being trolled by 4-chan for a bit. If you want to talk about justice for animal abusers there are a lot of people higher on the list than her assuming she didn't kill the dog which I don't see the evidence for.
one story thats stuck in my mind is that of "kero the wolf" he was exposed of twitter for abusing his family dog and also exposed multiple other people who were sexually assaulting and beating dogs to death. i dont remember specifics but it was super fucked
Worse yet, he got off scot-free because the Statute of Limitations in his state were up at the time of his exposure, so there was nothing anyone could legally do. The icing on the cake? HE BOASTED ABOUT IT ONLINE!!
This freak's channel is still well and alive btw. All he did was change name (surprisingly only recently instead of right after the drama) Gotta love youtube. Can't say meanie words or show blood, but animal r*pe? Perfectly fine!
I know the gas attack thing isn't a funny situation by any means, but as soon as he said something about them smelling a foul odor, my mind went to "it's bc they're musty af". 😭
I'm all for innocent until proven guilty... there's no evidence that Wolfie killed the dog, only that she beheaded it. And taxidermy isn't illegal. It's weird, but not illegal.
About the MFF Gas attack, everyone in the fandom knows the "Thorough investigation" wasn't all that thorough. Even higher up people like con staff and chairmen know that Law Enforcement didn't put much effort into it.
Most of the other smells don't cause an actual pain response from burning your mucous membranes. I'm not saying there aren't other smells to contend with, just that you definitely would notice chlorine over it.
Ya know Wolfie Blackheart was discussed before on this channel. She doesn't technically count as a furry, but rather a therian/otherkin(the Final Fantasy House counts as an otherkin horror story unlike the furry crime tales mentioned here) back when the Twilight series was all the rage and made people share their affection over vampires and werewolves. Shame Kero the Wolf was left unmentioned in this video. That furry makes the podcast Zooier Than Thou look like an Animal Planet show.
Jesus people these days. Oh no no it's not a furry but otherkin, zookin, pedokin, woofwoofkin or who gives a fuck :D Just some weirdos in animal suits.
I personally think it was for the better of the mental health of WayWebSurf’s viewers to NOT know who Kero The Wolf is, and what kind of sick degeneracy he is guilty of. I consider myself a man with a very strong stomach, I’ve dealt with some of the worst circumstances growing up - yet I have an extremely soft spot in my heart for both animals and children. When I read a transcript of what crimes and levels of degeneracy Kero The Wolf was taking part in, I felt legitimately sick to the point I couldn’t eat for a period of time. I can’t say what I wish would happen to that sick SOaB and his circle of friends, but…let’s just say it’s worse than what they have inflicted on innocent lives. I can never understand the mentality of someone who would abuse animals in that way. When I see a dog or cat, or even fish or insect, I see a living, breathing soul.
The person who attacked Midwest fur fest probably wasn’t a furry It was probably a person who hated furries, and did this to spite them. I’ve seen many people online who hate furries enough to do something like that.
As im watching this, im like why do the last criminals look familiar, then in the article i see the address, that man was my neighbor, may he rest in peace, i remember he had a husky and a german shepard, he would set up christmas decorations every year, he was a good person, who we never had a problem with, i can remember afterwards as months went by all the furiniture, everything being dumped thrown away, that morning the street was covered in cops, may he rest in peace Edit: saddest part is that man had a daughter, cause of mfs with sad lives a girl has to grow up without a father, again que DEP
i still remember about that brony who killed himself and shot up a store and blames it all on how he can't be with his favorite my little pony character
I have friends who were at the con that got gassed. It really sucked to see how terrified everyone was and meanwhile news reporters were laughing at them because of the costumes.
The first story here is an event I actually witnessed personally, at least to an extent. I did attend that con (which is colloquially now known as "Gas Con" among many in the fandom). I personally was far from the source on the 9th floor at the time, playing cards in the basement of the hotel, so I didn't smell anything right then, and I don't think others in the same room did either, since when the fire alarms went off, we didn't know what to make of it. I remember we were trying to figure out exactly what was going on, and a couple people speculated that perhaps this was a fire drill. Shortly thereafter, we were herded outside for a while, many of us (including myself) were for a good few minutes still trying to figure out what was going on. Not long after, we started hearing bits and pieces about there being some sort of attack. Since this took place in the winter in Chicago, it was absolutely freezing outside, and (I am assuming because of that), we were eventually temporarily moved into the convention center next door. As of maybe a few years afterward, the convention center actually became part of the convention itself, due to growing attendance, but at the time the convention was only held in the hotel part of the center. The convention center next door that year was preparing for a dog show, but was otherwise empty, so we were moved into the convention center, into a large concrete room. There were some dogs there, and you could see them (and smell them) in their kennels, but it was otherwise just the convention attendees. Wavy mentions that most of the people were not at the convention at that time, but that's not entirely true from what I saw, at least. The room was absolutely packed to the brim, and since it wasn't much past midnight from what I remember when the event occurred, a lot of people were still wide awake and interacting just before the alarms went off. It was quite a few hours before we were finally allowed back into the hotel, and even after that, none of us were allowed to leave for (I think) another hour or so. When I got back into the hotel, I was able to smell the chlorine, which I hadn't smelled initially, but I was in a different part of the building at this time (the main floor). I remember that my asthma acted up a little bit around this point, and I had to take my portable nebulizer, but I am unsure whether it was from the remnants of the chlorine or simply from walking around in cold, dry air for so long. I suspect the latter. I didn't get to go home until about seven in the morning, as I had commuted, and was not staying at the convention. I was distraught, shaken and exhausted. I did attempt to go back to the convention the next day, but ended up leaving after only a few hours because I was far too tired and stressed from the night before. I am not as active in the furry community anymore, simply because it's gotten too big and impersonal for me, and also because I don't relate to it as much as I once did. I haven't attended a furry convention at all for a few years now, but not because of the events I witnessed at that particular convention. I just have moved on in my life.
I like that this video doesn't treat furries as an intrinsically bad group! As an outsider to the whole furry thing, I felt as though people were far too judgmental of them. Even if this video catalogues some of the terrible shit people in the furry community have done, it still manages to show that the community at large isn't itself the worst thing in the world. The first story was a good choice to open with!
@@JewelWildmoon a UA-camr that used to make Roblox videos but got unjustly sure by Roblox for a lot of money recently(yesterday I think) he made a Twitter post saying all furries are groomers and pedophiles among other shitty stuff
I'm so curious what Wolfie is doing these days. I tried to look her up and I found some stuff about her maybe being ftm( so he? and a fairly recent comment on a subreddit that she's in prison but I don't know if any of that's true. There is no official confirmation of any of it. Also, if possible, I'd love to see a video about the DDLG community. Such a weird obscure community I fell into some rabbit holes about in my teens. Haven't heard anything about them in years. Specifically, a member named Stephen Parker. I was fully in that rabbithole as a teen and he did have a bit of drama and controversy that could be talked about. God only knows if there's been more since. I have no idea what he's doing these days. As I type this, it's actually officially hitting 2023. I can hear the fireworks. I can't believe I have been typing this comment for two years. Happy new year, wavy! 😂
I think a Tumblr UA-cam did a video on wolfie but I rlly don't remember what there name is.. it was very thorough deep dive into her or I suppose now his life! Tlly worth the watch... I looked it up, strange Aeons
I suppose the DDLG part could be easy enough when it comes to finding people. Stephen made a video on his UA-cam channel Stevop like a month ago about the subject. DDLG and related kinks are probably a lot less popular and accepted than they may have felt like for you though, a lot of people will still call men in the community pedophiles (or openly mock and bully them if they're into the "baby" role) so even the few people who are public about the kink might hesitate to give interviews.
I like how in this episode Wavy went back to story he’s touched on and went into more detail than he did in the original video (which was made a year ago) and I think he should do this more often
The phrase “yiff in hell” came about for a reason. Some objectively evil people not only did awful things, but tried to attach themselves to normal, good intentioned people and tried to drag them down with them when they got caught.
@@abualofenkasi5634 for a second I thought you meant the whole "gay people are groomers thing." Then I remembered MAPs and such, you probably could've made that comparison a little more elegantly .
@@vapid6311 was kind of my point in the original comment. Maps & zoos trying to attach themselves to a movement that’s trying to make real progress and actively damaging and dragging down others to avoid persecution.
It's just what the depraved "kiddie lovers" tried to do with the LGBT+ community. The only difference being that, as someone from the community, I think bad people have become the majority of the group
Chlorine gas is heavier than air so shattering the bottle on the ninth floor would have caused the gas to ‘float’ down the stairwell so in a panic people could have been hurt worse by trying to get out by going down the stairs. Scary stuff
Every single interaction with a furry I've ever had has been nothing but positive, and it's terrible in my opinion that the community is judged by the actions of a small subset of the furry community that the normal, every day people who also belong to the community would rather not have around. It's just like any other group of people. The larger the number gets the more likely it is the weirdos will work their way in. To my friends in the community, I love you guys and gals and everything in between. I know you're not bad or scary people.
OK. Furry. What iteration of comment section posting from your furry community did you get this from? Go check those peoples computers and phones. I bet they are disgusting animal fetishists.
@@alexjohnson439 I've met weirdos from... Every single hobby and Fandom I can think of actually. This includes furries of course, there's weird people everywhere. As long as they aren't doing any harm to people or animals I say let them be weird
im grateful that you made sure not to paint furries as a community of horrible people but just a community like any other that, like any other has horrible people sprinkled throughout it
11:20 My brain: “What a monster! Is he defending this!?! Why does he even go for an interview! This man is dis… Are those hancuffs pink? …is this a furry-run prison by any chance? No, they’re not fluffy enough for that. Where was I? Oh yeah! I HATE THIS GUY!”
As someone who collects (ethically sourced, of course!) taxidermy it’s fascinating to me when channels cover the Wolfie story and pretend to be completely unfamiliar with what taxidermy is.
@@Psycho_herb Morticians are giving a person a chance to say goodbye. Most taxidermy is over hunting trophies. I'm all for ethical hunting, but I don't get hunting trophies as no meat was harvested. The only real good part of taxidermy is they get a chance to practice for museums and collections such as yours. You know, educational pieces.
@@LegendStormcrow I only collect ethically sourced specimens, primarily insects and wet specimens, that were collected postmortem. I’m with you, I don’t agree with hunting for sport or trophies.
@@LegendStormcrow sport hunting is disgusting and a complete waste of life. I hate those hunters with a passion (personally wish you could nutshot trophy hunters) if you are going to hunt something eat it and use every part possible. Though I don't have a collection and never will but I don't judge those who do as it's the same as someone who collects Legos, swords, and such. It's a hobby, and they think they are interesting or cool. Also most importantly it was a joke. People who taxidermy animals are gross but not the people who mess with other dead people. Doesn't really make sense to me (they are dead bodies if you think it's weird both should be weird). All Wolfie did was preserve the skull, etc; it's the internet and a lot of dogs of the same breed look alike. Lady was just too hopeful to see her dog one last time instead of thinking logically and assuming a coyote ate the poor thing she saw the picture of raz's dog and went the "you stole my dog" route.
Wow crazy to see this video today. I'm a fursuit maker, I almost worked on something made by lockjawarts on a collaborative project. This was RIGHT before they were discovered as murders, the reason I ended up not working with them actually was because they went on the run while my client was trying to get their order. Haven't finished the video yet, but bravo on reporting their story accurately and without the rumours that came from it. People were saying that they turned the dog into a fursuit which was completely false and was spread around like wildfire when it happened. Presumably to give the story more shock value, I suppose.
@@wavywebsurf appreciate that! Thanks again for your work. I still have and use my taclight that I bought after watching your video on them way back in the day.
@@wavywebsurf I sure have been! I was one of the first staff members you brought into your discord, still there today under the same username actually :D Happy new years! Hope it's a good one
Wolfie sounds like a normal taxidermist to me, a bit strange of a character. I’ve processed tons of wild and domestic animals with no ill intention. Im a hunter, I know my laws, I participate in a lot of conservation and environmental projects. I have my fair share of “explicit photos” of animals I’ve worked on. On a daily basis I get compared to serial killers or overall just called an animal torturer, which at first I’d play this off like a joke but now it just hurts because it’s nothing that I would every do or want to do. Although I don’t look eye to eye with Wolfie, I’m a taxidermist and fellow Vulture Culture member, and I understand were they’re coming from.
The only ones I know of are Kero the Wolf, Khord Kitty, and Saffo, all of which were covered by Turkey Tom, which is how I primarily heard of them. He mentioned some other sex offending furries in the midst of these videos, but those were the major ones that he covered. I have no idea who Brownnose Pup is though.
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@@napoleonbonaparte7529 shut up
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Fun fact about wolves: in the wild, a wolf pack has no "alpha". It's just a family group consisting of a breeding pair (the parents) & their pups. Wolves *in captivity* do have alphas & betas, but only because they only have so much space in their enclosures, which they have to fight over
That's interesting
Yeah theyve done tracking studies on wolves and tbey all have strict borders to their areas and respect each others terrain to a very impressive amount.
Alpha Status, Dominance, and Division of Labor
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I knew that they didnt have alphas and betas but I didn't know they did in captivity that's cool
Yeah but that's wolf science, not human. Human's hierarchical structures can be described as a "chieftain" structure. Usually there's one elder or group of elders that call the shots, or whatever dude was best at clobbering everyone else and barking out orders. This has held true for all of human society all the way up to today, where it still reigns true.
"Wolfie would begin to slink away from the public eye."
*plays footage of her leaving her house backwards*
I love this channel.
Wolfie: Some people are allergic to flowers
Him: "In Wolfie's hayday..."
27:41 Mf looks like the home alone burgler Lol
Omg he does???
"Once all the furries had been herded from the hotel" was one of the best lines ever. I laughed quite a bit.
Its even better cause he used herded multiple times lol
and "lone wolves burning the midnight oil" lmao
Haha some of them are like animals and #### dogs
@@martino5742 Well that's not a thing I thought I'd here today... Or ever...
@@lookatjayzjewelz No one did. Now, get out.
You're not going to believe me when I say this, but I actually commissioned LockJawArts for a fursuit head, and I was waiting for an update when the murder happened. I was, like everyone else, shocked. I remember calling PayPal a few days later and requesting a refund for my commission. The staff, understandably, were shocked by what I was telling them. It was a hell of a day, really.
Most sane furry
there was a furry youtuber who stopped uploading for now, Glitch, who had the same thing happen.
Did you get the refund
bro we need to know didya get that refund
@@DaKingKayden I got the refund!
I have furry friends and anti-furry friends. If you ask an anti-furry about famous members of the fandom, they’ll name a criminal. If you ask a furry about famous members, they’ll name someone who just has a colorful fursuit and can do backflips in it lmao
Yeah same here, I don't have anything against furries but people who are anti-furry tend to only ever, ever, focus on the bad people in it, just like I could focus on the gamers out there who shot their families over halo. But I don't, there will always be bad people in every fanfom
you knowingly made friends with furries? L
An astonishing amount of anti-furs that I've interacted with were also the type of people who were... Well... Let's just say they liked the cut of a certain dictator with a funny mustache's gib, and fully support his ideology... Take that as you will.
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 You are foolish
@@TypicalUkraine_ Ah, well then, clearly people have no legitimate reason to dislike furries, and anyone who does can be easily dismissed as nazi, convenient.
Out of all furries I'm surprised you didn't cover carpet samples
I think I know what you mean and by backstory alone makes it the most disgusting ever fursuit.
When your a furry cheap and a novice seamstress all in one
who........
@@frogfan5192You'll find vids about that abomination here on UA-cam.
I was surprised by the lack of mentioning Kero and his particular group of degenerates
Pool maintenance guy here.
I use pool shock where I work. However just putting the powdered chlorine in a bottle and shattering it won't have such a wide spread effect. It was probably combined with muriatic acid then thrown.
It could be different kinds of chlorine. But at the most basic level it was probably calcium hypochorite combined with hydrochloric acid (aka muriatic acid). I clean off chlorine build up on chlorinators with muriatic acid. It produces a sensation like that described in the video. For me it has always had a pretty limited range. But a purposefully malicious mix could have that kind of range. Especially if it entered the ventilation system. Unfortunately all of the ingredients are available at any hardware store and even available at the hotel if they had a pool available. It might not have been a furry at all. Also this is a chemical attack, not a bio attack. Who ever did this is either pool maintenance guy of some sort or a chemist. I bet on the hotel pool maintenance guy being responsible. If the hotel had a pool.
I didn't know that
That’s what I was thinking it could’ve been a maintenance person from the hotel who was tired of the furries or something along those lines
….you seem to know a lot about this….have you been to any furry conventions in the last decade?
Yeah I have a feeling it was someone who hated furries, not one of the furries.
@@bcurtis363 sus
I don't care who you are but the thought of sleeping in a hotel room minding your own business and then all of the sudden you're hit with like a gas attack is absolutely terrifying to me for some reason
I mean, I'd say terror is a perfectly rational response to that, the reason being potential threat to your life.
I think it was an Anti fur who did it but yeah no matter who they are of course it’s scary normal people would be scared by it and we were too especially since we didn’t know if we were gonna get someone attacking our future conventions
@@jayclips5721 there are also suspicions that the actual culprit was a racist furry who had been banned from the convention named Magnus Diridian, or the "confederate fursuiter."
probably the suddenness as well as not being in your own home
Scary they never found the culprit
Wolfie participated in what is now known as "vulture culture". It's a subculture of people who are interested in and often participate in home taxidermy and preservation of animal parts.
I mean, I don't see much issue in it. I've got a sheep skull,
@Goop Guy Yeah me neither. I'm not a participant myself but I do find it really cool.
@@petrjemyval Look it up. Wolfie went way too far, but most people in the culture are incredibly respectful of the animals they dress. They find roadkill or animal remains out in nature to dress. It's taxidermy hobbyists.
@@petrjemyval Yeah i have some animal parts buried in my yard, they died naturally or were killed by local stray cats. I also bought some rat bones and a lucky rabbit's foot last month.
@@petrjemyval It's not hurting anyone, a bit odd, but not hurting anyone
Certainly not worse than eating meat
I truly do believe it is good for the furry community to talk about the bad, not just defend it with all of one's might. I've sometimes seen a few individuals defend the community with all their might, sometimes talking about how the fandom isn't all sexual stuff and things like that. But it is important to recognize that part of the community, historically it has always been sexual to a good portion of the fandom.
They'd be doing their community a huge favor to actually seek out and stigmatized these people.
Yet for some reason..... it's never "ThAt BiG oF a PrObLeM"
Idk, if I thought a community I was a part of ran the risk of being misconstrued as some sort of sexual devisncy...... I'd do everything I can to make the people responsible feel as unwelcome and alien as humanly possible.
@@nignamedmutt7270 Thats good.
@@nignamedmutt7270 ^ This dude is the one that will eventually tell the police "God made me do it for the children."
@@nignamedmutt7270yeah any zoophiles or any terrible people like that are hated by furries
@@Nixias_ really? Because all I seem to hear from the furry community is "oh that never happens, we're actually the friendliest people on the planet"
Pretty sure just about every fucking predator on the planet said something similar before they were ever outed and exposed.
“The jury did not take up the autistic defence.”
-WavyWebSurf, 2022
This video proves right the phrase "if a furry can afford a 1000 dollar fursuit,they can also afford a 20 dollar pipebomb in your mailbox"
doesn’t a pipebomb cost like 1000?
@@thatrhinoviper doesn't you mean,lmao
@@thatrhinoviper thats a c4 not pipebomb + not even c4s are 1000
@@thatrhinoviper Not in my experience.
1000 bucks is dirt cheap for a custom fursuit, you may be able to get just the custom made paws alone if you're lucky for that price.
While I cannot speak for "Wolfy and the gang" I can say that stray dogs often find friendship with homeless people, many homeless folks take in lost dogs. If your dog is lost, check your local homeless camp. Some may not want to give them back however most will be very happy there new friend gets to go home. It's a kinship kind of thing like "hey buddy, you lost too? Me too"
Basically the entire plot for Oliver and Company(i literally just watched it twice yesterday lol fell asleep immediately the first time and my girlfriend wanted to make sure we actually watched it because she fell asleep too lol)
Absolutely amazing take and point. Thank you for speaking your mind from so many points. Have an amazing day 💛
Yes it's still theft and kidnapping no matter how you gift wrap it
One of my dogs got lost in the past. They found this lovely gentleman who stayed I the forest down the road. I agreed to let him keep my little dude, and I leave bags of dog food and some money for the two.
I was actually online best friends with Zel on deviantArt when I was 13 years old, and the girls from kansas were my close friends as well. That godawful SprinkZel drawing is unfortunately mine, and my oc Sprinkle was 14 :/ Just got reminded of him and looked him up, crazy to see him featured in such a popular video. AMA lol
Btw, there is a mistake in the video. You talked about Zel's artwork, but none of it was his. He couldn't draw, but he commissioned/requested a lot of fanart and would repost it on his page, which is why the artstyle is so vastly different in each image. "Thinking highly of the man for his artwork" idk what this is based on but that's not true since he didn't draw any of it. We were only friends with him because we thought he was friendly and fun to talk to. I mean we were 12/13 and even our artwork was better than his lol
He's going to hell.
Im commenting so this gets more attention because this seems kinda important to the video
im actually one of the kansas girls, this is correct he always commissioned, or, at some points would request inappropriate art from us as well. it’s so weird to see him in an iceburg video because i, yknow, am apart of this.
he also did not send us videos of him having relations with the dog btw, if that happened we would have blocked him immediately.
hes gross!!
@@peachyacid omg hi cassie how have you been??
@@rift7573same
I like how Wolfie’s defence against being accused of burglary was that she couldn’t have done it because she was in the woods being a wolf 🤣
She's saying she was questioned because she was in the woods being a wolf nearby to the crime scene
"I couldn't have committed this crime, because I was doing something suspect somewhere else."
Yeah, acting like a wolf in the woods isn't illegal, but you get what I mean.
@@flarestorm9417 it is at least a sign for insanity
@@abualofenkasi5634 and mental illness
@@abualofenkasi5634 Or a cringe ass emo phase
I'm gonna be real. I have a slight bit more respect for 4Chan after watching all these videos. Sure they may have a twisted sense of humor and aren't exactly the most righteous bunch when it comes to a lot of cases, But when the time comes, mostly with animal abuses, their talents can really show.
Thank you!
4Chan is a perfect example of what people can do when they put their talents together… both good and bad lol
if only they put that same effort in for child predators
Just say you only care about animals. People won't be mad.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin your comment makes zero sense. 4chan users have also rallies together to help people countless times.
I absolutely love it at 21:06 where he says the comments are idolizing Wolfie, and the top one is "you inspired me to not be what you are" true idol! Love the video Wavy!
Kids, no matter how edgy you may think you are, please don't tell anyone that you're more likely to hurt a human than an animal.
Dude, humans are technically animals so just don't hurt anyone
@@lastigefliege3366 Yeah but some crazy animal lovers would rather kill 10 people instead of a sick cat and there is quite many of those bastards
I'm a non edgy adult and even I would hurt a human before an animal
@@Brunette_2005 but do those 10 people deserve death?
I find it hypocritical when people claim they'd rather kill a human than an animal when they eat animals. Last time a cow had to die for that ribeye. I love animals but i also eat meat and i have slaughtered animals before to eat them. I really dislike most humans but i would never kill one unless it was to defend me or someone else.
I'm shocked you didnt talk about Kero the Wolf. . .
And sappho
Yeah there's a lot more he could have talked about if he wanted to get deeper into it, but honestly I'd prefer less as we already look bad enough to outsiders.
@@crandria2001 I like your PFP
@@theokkali467 those heretics needs life sentences in prison yet the US police see them as "non-threats"🗿
@@crandria2001 You're all nothing but pedophiles and degenerates or you associate with them and enable the behavior. The reputation of furries cannot go any lower. Absolutely disgusting community.
Honestly the whole situation with Wolfie just sounds like normal taxidermy to me. There's no indicators that she is a criminal and seems perfectly pleasant. Pet taxidermy isn't unheard of and it sounds more like just a situation born from a picture taken out of context.
i agree. I guess it was on this list because it was infamous but this just seems like a chain of bad events with no particular wrongdoing (except maybe the poorly secured dog).
Yeeeah I was thinking the same thing.
Wasn't her pet, though. 🙄
@@KerReeeee Still, all evidence points to no foul play involved.
@@KerReeeeeshe believed it was her friends pet, who might’ve confused an escaped dog for a stray, or just napped them. there’s no proof that wolfie had anything to do with procuring the animal
For what it's worth, huskies like Shadow / Rigsby have a strong tendency towards running without taking into account their environment properly. It's very believable a husky would both run away from it's back yard and run into traffic without looking properly.
As someone who owns a husky i can agree had to chase mine all over town cause he ran past the mailman
That's how my friends husky died. It broke through the fence and ran straight into traffic.
I don't think she did anything wrong, though she is an odd character
I mean from what I heard about the story I don't think she did anything too him and the angle that dog died due to accident and its head was taken post death was more believable than the other one where they claim they broke in and killed the dog to take it's skull.
I think she was probably innocent, owner said dog been missing for awhile- believable they thought it was a stray. Dog escaped first owner, not surprising it escaped the second one... And then wham. I think the internet doesn't truly have noble intentions, rather they enjoying a good with hunt. Get off on the hate and getting to destroy someone's lives while saving or revenging another... It was never about a fair trail, they're always guilty. . I remember someone committed suicide because they got framed for something they didn't do and reddit/4chan relentlessly attacked the guy. . Mob vigilante shit isn't the best way to do things
If I had a nickel for every furry convention I’ve heard of that got sabotaged with potentially life-threatening attacks, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
lol
unfortunate af but lol
the quote-
Furry suits have a lot of hiding room 😂
Phineas and ferb reference?
Zel the Wolf isn’t even close to the worst predator in the fandom…..nor the worst to use “the wolf” moniker
I sadly agree with you
It's hard to believe the fandom is almost 5 decades of a culture
The guy buying everyone McMuffins after everyone was chemically assaulted is actually so sweet 😂
It was kind of him to do that
The hero we never knew we needed.
W mans
Chlorine infused McMuffins
@@sk1zlet how about no
i love how furries can be the nicest people you know or the most despicable sinister being ever made
That spectrum is heavily skewed toward the former. I have never felt more welcome with any group than with furries...and not just because I am one.
They are all mentally ill
@@louisc6687 I don't know why Pizza Hut be having roaches in their pizza
@@HaydenX Yeah, I'm sure being a part of a community has nothing to do with your view of said community.
@@louisc6687 actually not furry definition: a furry is somebody who creates characters with both human and animal characteristics some time they dress up as these characters aka cosplay them tho therians and animal kin are the people who want to be animals and yes those people are mentally ill
people who hurt animals should go straight to jail for long years.
Once they aren't all in jail with the big guns of prisoners I won't sleep. They will show them what abuse feels like.
YES
27:41 Mf looks like the home alone burgler Lol
Furry deesrve abuse and constant bullying
Furries are animals for hurting animals
There's a lot of us that chill in VR, which makes me wonder, what about people who used VR to manipulate others to do bad things IRL
i think VR might still be too new to see cases popping up just yet but wouldnt be surprised if that changes bc ive seen a lot of weirdly mixed spaces (with both kids & adults) when i was first trying it out
so you chill in only furry vr chats and literally pretend to have sex while using said vr? cause thats literally all over the internet about furries being complete degenerates lmfao.....ought to be bullied off the internet lmao
This is crazy how there were no cameras on the stairs?
Yeah I was thinking the same thing wth?? lol
? Why would there be?
right or at least cameras NEAR the stairs? so you could see who went in that direction at the time of the attack
You'd be surprised how many places you'd assume there would be cameras yet there aren't. I worked at a clinic that had none despite housing medications, personal medical information of patients, ect.
there aren't really camras in or really even near stairways in around every hotel I've been in, but there would probably be some camras in the hallways that have stairwells.
but then again with the amount of people in that hotel there also could've been a lot of people using them, plus I doubt the camras tgat could be in the hallways to be pointing near the entrances to the stairwells themselves, they would probably be in a corner of a hallway.
the police needed to be thorough but I could imagine there would be seemingly too many variables complicating the case.
I cant even tell why your videos stand apart from other "i tell you something about something" channels. Its just relaxing to watch.
Yes, definitely relaxing.
I always used to listen to this channel to go to sleep, but honestly with how many ads there are on UA-cam now, I don't know if I can anymore. Still love the channel, just beginning to hate UA-cam...
same ): i have a sleep playlist but i keep being woken up by the ads and i really don’t have it in me to pay for premium just to avoid ads. some channels are worse than others it seems.
I knew Vex (Volty) personally for over a decade. We used to hang out all of the time. We lost contact and she went down a dark path and into drugs and such and Jax was a really bad influence on her. So sad, I really wouldn't have thought she would be capable of such a horrible thing. My condolences to the victim and his family.
One day we will cure furrys. Don't pass it down to your kids please.
It’s so interesting seeing videos on people you knew, huh? I knew Boxxy and actually played Gaia with her a lot, haha.
I'm someone who somewhat knew Volty as well. We went to the same high school and met in art class, she was a junior when I was a senior and though we never actually hung out, we would talk a bit in art class or during lunch from time to time. I lost contact with her after I graduated in 2009 and I didn't meet up with her again until around 2015 at ironically a small little furry meet that she invited me too, gave me a ride and everything since I didn't have a car at the time and I got to meet her boyfriend Jax. I immediately got some weird vibes from him but I didn't want to be judgmental and just assumed he had some social anxiety but Volty was still as sweet (but shy) like she was in high school.
We didn't talk after that meet though because I remember she said she was going through some life struggles and that was the last I heard from her. It wasn't until early November of last year (2022) when I learned about the murder she committed with her boyfriend and I was shocked to hear that, the brutality of it was just insane and though Volty didn't pull the trigger, the fact that she went along with it and sent out that text, it was shocking.
I agree with you that I feel like Jax was a horrible influence on her and more than likely played a big part in her self-destruction because she already didn't have the best mental health.But unfortunately they committed murder and have to pay for it.
@@decadentgamer3108 You need therapy. Being a furry is not natural or healthy. Please don't have children.
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The metal allergy is really a thing. I don't know how rare it is though. My cousin had it for years. She cannot touch any metal, spoons, door handles, etc, because when she did, she got rashes all over her hand and lower arm.
Silver metal allergies aren't super rare, I don't think. It's common enough to where many flutes have gold plated lip-plates for those with allergies to silver metals. Usually it isn't that strong
I have a nickel and silver allergy but it only flares up when it's constantly rubbing on my skin (think jean buttons) or if I wear a piercing or earring that isn't an anallergenic material, it's very painful and very real
@Danijelovski Kanal it usually depends on the metal
It’s a thing, knew a guy who was allergic to brass (ironically enough he’s a tuba player so he has to use silver tubas)
@@VampiricVik I have a nickel allergy too, jeans buttons (and when I was a teen even the rivets) are the worst. I went through a stage where I turned all my silver jewellery black as well. Now I only buy specific jewellery brands, that I know aren’t alloys, or coated.
I hate how much I laughed at “It was flushed with plush”
Ok
@@Toxic_Death Yikes bud
@@imNotZack_ ???
omg roly!! hii
I totally forgot these murders happened, it happened while I was sleeping I was 14-15 years old I lived and still do live right near that house they died. Never saw them, never met them but I always pass by the house wondering what happened. Thank god I saw this video I never knew how they died, our neighbors said it was just a family member who killed them and that’s what I believed until now. It’s really sad and the house is still as it once was I feel terrible for them and I believe my mother and I appeared on the news to talk about the shooting that woke me up
Also I forgot to mention I believe when she went to middle school we didn’t know when or where she would go but eventually she committed suicide.
That poor dog. Seeing its lifeless eyes. I love dogs as a pet. They are fun and are like a small child that cherishes you. It’s so sad to just see a head.
I don't understand these types of people who keep heads or taxidermy them, unless its an extinct animal.
@@Sceptonic I mean if it’s like your first hunt. Yeah keeping it is kinda justified. Otherwise it’s just creepy.
@@YourDM64 ye
@@Sceptonic The only purpose is to practice, unless you are doing it to keep as an educational tool.
@@LegendStormcrow practice what
I cant believe that guy only got 17 years for that horrific shit. People like that should get 50 years at least
I think they should get the wood chipper
@@mtnentertainment3454agreed.
its good defense , i would use same defense and win my case if i was in his shoes ....he didn't harm anyone than himself ...thats all...people should learn from him in winning their case...but for those end up 50 years ...its different case when people went all the way..that is different crime...look at elon musk ...he went molested his pirvate jet female staff and he tweet about it ,also he was caught from his employees seeing him naked with one of female ceo of one of his companies together in nasty position ...and nothing done about it due to power and wealth of this man ...$200 billion...and nobody dare touch him ...until he bought twitter and paid off one of user to keep it hush hush on his tweets by money
Which guy
@@mtnentertainment3454 i also agree lol
Honestly, wolfie seems pretty innocent, they just seem like an emo teenager obsessed with taxidermy. I’m glad they weren’t charged
I agree. I was never a wolfkin but I am an autistic who had (and still has) a special interest in animals skulls and taxidermy. Specifically as a way to honor the animals as I also was a devout and very careful vegetarian, mostly vegan minus eggs from my chickens and pigeons. It's really common among neurodivergent and emo kids lmao, I had friends who would help me preserve raccoon skins and whatnot. But there was also a disgusting dude who claimed to do the same thing who we layer found out was a zoophile, r@pist, and animal torturer, so it's a genuine concern to have. If your kids are obsessed with dead animals, like watch them and make sure they're not doing weird sh!t at least.
I keep taxidermy and its not that big of a deal tbh
@@fungustheclown666 I can relate to this. I'm neurodivergent and adore animals. Taxidermy is actually an important art form and without preserving animals the way we do, hundreds of species would be completely lost to time with no way for scientists to study them or the public to see them in museums and be educated. Western culture especially, outside of those who hunt or are into oddities, seems to find the keeping of animal parts repulsive. Yet they wear leather and fur, use down pillows and coats, have sheepskin rugs or cowhide purses, feather dusters, etc. and eat the remains of animals. In other cultures, animal preservation isn't so taboo. And I don't think it should be so frowned upon when done respectfully.
Yeah! I have a cute taxidermy turtle my mother gave me and I don’t think it’s a bad thing, I actually think it’s better then letting the turtle rot. Plus, he’s cute, I mean, cmon.
@@fungustheclown666YOU CAN EAT PIGEON EGGS??
I'm actually VERY surprised you included the murder committed by Volty (Vex) and their boyfriend mainly because I actually knew Volty when I was in high school. Volty was a grade below me (they were a junior when I was a senior) and we had the same art class and that's how we met through a mutual friend at the time. I wasn't necessarily a "friend" friend with Volty because I had bad social anxiety and I could tell they did too so we mostly just had small talks in the art class and occasionally at lunch period. I eventually lost contact with her after I graduated high school (2009) and we didn't reconnect until around 2015 where I met with them and got to meet her boyfriend and at the time, I did get some "off" vibes but I just chalked it up to social awkwardness.
I didn't hear from Volty after that as she admitted she was going through some life and mental health problems and it wasn't until late 2022 when I learned about what really happened with Volty and the murder and I was beyond shocked because the brutality of the murder. It just didn't seem like Volty at al because when I remembered her, Volty was quite nice and open albeit painfully shy. But I then saw that it actually did make our local news stations and it showed her picture and yep, it was Volty and her boyfriend...
It was insane to learn and it helped put into place why Volty had been so inactive on their art social media for so long.
That was a good non-fiction story. 👍
@@NDoesFunnyStuffAndPlaysGames23 It's just one of those cases of being shocked when you hear a story in a video like this (or out in public) of someone you knew or were acquainted with because locally it seems like a small story and you don't realize that it can sometimes make archive documentation like this you know? lol
@@decadentgamer3108 can i get a link to the article or something?
You mean her. They is for plural and hypotheticals. It’s okay, you don’t have to respect the “pronouns” of a psychotic murderer.
@@Brother_Pinerout of everything said in this, the one thing you got out of this was the usage of pronouns
bro are you smoking crack 💀
“fur fest gas attacker” is such a wild phrase to hear 💀
Truly
I lived in San Antonio at the time and I remember the Blackheart story. The story comes down to if you believe her or not. If you believe her, no wrong was done. Her story is: friend's dog(as she knew it) got hit by a car, dog died and she began to taxidermy the head. If you don't, then its possible she did everything from kidnapping the dog to the murder. Then yes, many crimes committed.
No way!!! For the triple murder, I know literally everyone involved. That’s insane it’s being covered on a channel like this. SoCal is insane
I know Vex from the last case. Dated her for a small bit but she toyed with my feelings. So its not entirely surprising she ended up that way eventually. But I already knew of the incident and clicked on the video just to see if it was covered
@@BearWith_You You really dodged a Bullet.
@@Silversurfergio Yeah I really did. I remember the day my friend sent the article to me. I was at work and I was pretty surprised. He apparently got the article from his mom as he was friends with her as well
I met a furry once, he was actually looking into joining a college I was interested in entering. He was a nice guy.
(No he was not dressed in a fursuit, I learned about the furry part when I followed him on Twitter.)
Moral of the story.
Not all furries are weird.
Ok, but the weird ones should still be criticized and talk about. I know it's not every furry that's bad, but when you don't take care of the bad part, the stereotype sticks.
I have a couple friends who are furries, they’re just your average people lol-
Trash simian is correct. If you don't remove the negatives, it becomes the norm from people
Moral of the story.
never litsen to furry supporters.
You know already that we dont use fursuits as some kind of uniform everytime, right.
I honestly really love how you've covered these stories. No unwarranted hate, no bias or ridicule, just retelling of the facts and details. I've seen a lot of people cover these sorts of stories, except that they always have to make remarks against the community as a whole. Really, yes, we are harmless funseekers, by and large. It is very important to cover the dark side of any fandom, especially ours in some ways, but I appreciate it when a creator keeps it neutral and doesn't openly attack us.
I hope you'll do a part 2 of this series :)
Furries are weird tho I hope it's just a phase for you because there's no way a functioning adult turns into a furry (or is).
Hoping we get a part two as well. Kero and CarpetSamples alone have enough material for an entire video
Harmless maybe fucking weird wack jobs that spend money on dog costumes yes.
Love your content Wavy, tho I do miss when you explain things like the origin of memes and such but this content is always a treat, hope you can get back to making deep dives into memes and such, keep up the good work
Furries are a meme tho
@@riqopowpow yes your right but recently these videos have been turning into deep dives into some meme or internet based crimes
And such
Maybe he’s run out of memes that could translate into a full-length and high-quality video? If you have some ideas they might help him make more videos of that type.
@@emachine003 like my comment I have a perfect video ide
im not a furry but these are the people that give furries a bad rep cause they are legit just people
Unfortunately it’s mostly people confusing us with zoophiles, people who just don’t and are unwilling to learn about furries :l
@@PhD_in_Undecided Sadly your sub culture's name is in dirt And Twisted.
Yea
Two of these weren't even furries
@@Tr3nt4nwhat?
As a fellow furry myself I would very glad participate in the crusade against these psychos. It should be up to us good furries to destroy the evil ones at all costs!
Never have I spent this long learning about drama from a community I couldn't care less about
If you value animals welfare you should probably be aware of them. Even if it's a tiny minority, of those I've heard of they're sick zoophile sadists
Dead ass ☠️
Furrys are like mold ,fuzzy, colorfull and mostly toxic
@Gg Ez both bad
@@Number1BoraFan v1nce fell out meatrider
that wolf kin girl had really straight forward answers to people's questions about it. Real weirdo but sounds like there was basically no evidence that they actually killed the dog. Just 4-chan being 4-chan
Yeah, I think she really was just asked to taxidermy it after it died accidentally, it's a bit weird but people get their pets taxidermied all the time
@@Operngeist1 I wouldn't exactly call it taxidermy but I guess for lack of a better word...regardless it's hardly illegal if the pet died by an act of 'god' so to say and not her hand which with her calm straight answers I really doubt she did but is just like she says. The internet often jumps to conclusions.
@@GravesLilDarkAngel There was a situation kinda like this one that happened in my state in Ashville, North Carolina. This oogle couple (oogle is a person who trainhops/hitchhikes across the country, and usually are more edgy than normal people, kinda just like a punk homeless person) was in town and supposedly they found a dead cat, which they proceeded to carve a pentagram into it with some other carvings, hang it up in the trees and posted pictures on facebook saying "WE R DA KAT KILLAZ" but in the comments stated that they found it dead already and did all that. Obviously alot of people didn't believe that story and thought they killed it. I don't believe they killed it cause I've hung out and hitchhied with edgy people like that and they're just edgy. But t's still disturbng what they did to the cat because it was for no reason. There was alot of posts about the couple being spread across facebook in my area
cutting the dog's head off is just as disgusting as killing it. The defence that people "get pets taxidermied all the time" is BS. People also abuse animals all the time, but that doesn't make it right. Hope the wolfkin girl gets some kind of karmic retribution.
@@SeanORaigh taxiderming a dog is just as disgusting as killing it? Hard disagree there. Its weird and since it wasn't her dog she shouldn't have done it but people have done far worst things and faced even smaller consequences than being trolled by 4-chan for a bit. If you want to talk about justice for animal abusers there are a lot of people higher on the list than her assuming she didn't kill the dog which I don't see the evidence for.
Fun fact, the woman in the final segment was my friend, and we had a small thing but she mostly dated my best friend after messing with my feelings
one story thats stuck in my mind is that of "kero the wolf" he was exposed of twitter for abusing his family dog and also exposed multiple other people who were sexually assaulting and beating dogs to death. i dont remember specifics but it was super fucked
Worse yet, he got off scot-free because the Statute of Limitations in his state were up at the time of his exposure, so there was nothing anyone could legally do.
The icing on the cake?
HE BOASTED ABOUT IT ONLINE!!
At least that fucker is banned from every single furry convention.
There are many videos about him here on yt
Yep it was disgusting
This freak's channel is still well and alive btw. All he did was change name (surprisingly only recently instead of right after the drama)
Gotta love youtube. Can't say meanie words or show blood, but animal r*pe? Perfectly fine!
I feel if Law & Order or Law & Order SVU hasn’t already done a surface level episode involving the worst of the furry community, they will soon.
They should lol
Amazed they haven’t the 2018 leaks are enough for a season long narrative
They have… the same story appears on dumb ways to die, on spike tv
csi did a furry episode iirc
@@onsnopro I thought so but I thought that was a fever dream😭
I know the gas attack thing isn't a funny situation by any means, but as soon as he said something about them smelling a foul odor, my mind went to "it's bc they're musty af". 😭
Wash your suits.
Ok
Plot twist: messy tails was in the building
The suits cost thousands of dollars. You'd be surprised how nice a furry convention smells, with a handful of exceptions of course.
Sheesh Fido must've went crazy on em 🥶🥶🥶
As a furry myself, I am SO sorry for some of the people in our fandom. They disgust me. AMA or something.
I'm all for innocent until proven guilty... there's no evidence that Wolfie killed the dog, only that she beheaded it. And taxidermy isn't illegal. It's weird, but not illegal.
THANK YOU!!!
I don't think an animal can survive a beheading
Can a dog even survive beheadings?
@@53cycloneMike the headless chicken?
While I’m not in this community, I sure salute the heck out of their sewing skills.
Most of them just spend their parents life savings to buy some animal suit made by another furry.
I admire how the hell they’re able to wear a whole ass costume covered head to toe in insulating fur as a form of RECREATION
@@dinoboiis8147 Because theyre stupid
@@lihikern yeah but the other furry that sells them are talented
@@Honeybaggsss Talented for having no life
About the MFF Gas attack, everyone in the fandom knows the "Thorough investigation" wasn't all that thorough. Even higher up people like con staff and chairmen know that Law Enforcement didn't put much effort into it.
I mean, yeah, you'd at least think there'd be any cameras in the hotel, right?
As someone who lives in the Chicago area, that doesn’t surprise me at all
Man that gas would’ve had to have been a really bad smell for you to be able to notice it at a furry convention over the myriad of other wild smells
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Most of the other smells don't cause an actual pain response from burning your mucous membranes. I'm not saying there aren't other smells to contend with, just that you definitely would notice chlorine over it.
Kaitlyns smile scared the shit out of me. Btw what a crazy story.
Its just ugly that's it
Went to Junior High with her and let's just say kids weren't the nicest about that
Same, she looks like that shark that extends its teeth out to grab prey
22:27 DAMN them horse teeth 😭😭😭💀💀💀
I… umm.. I am going straight to hell😢
💀💀💀☠️
It terrifies me…
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Ya know Wolfie Blackheart was discussed before on this channel. She doesn't technically count as a furry, but rather a therian/otherkin(the Final Fantasy House counts as an otherkin horror story unlike the furry crime tales mentioned here) back when the Twilight series was all the rage and made people share their affection over vampires and werewolves.
Shame Kero the Wolf was left unmentioned in this video. That furry makes the podcast Zooier Than Thou look like an Animal Planet show.
Jesus people these days. Oh no no it's not a furry but otherkin, zookin, pedokin, woofwoofkin or who gives a fuck :D Just some weirdos in animal suits.
I personally think it was for the better of the mental health of WayWebSurf’s viewers to NOT know who Kero The Wolf is, and what kind of sick degeneracy he is guilty of.
I consider myself a man with a very strong stomach, I’ve dealt with some of the worst circumstances growing up - yet I have an extremely soft spot in my heart for both animals and children. When I read a transcript of what crimes and levels of degeneracy Kero The Wolf was taking part in, I felt legitimately sick to the point I couldn’t eat for a period of time. I can’t say what I wish would happen to that sick SOaB and his circle of friends, but…let’s just say it’s worse than what they have inflicted on innocent lives.
I can never understand the mentality of someone who would abuse animals in that way. When I see a dog or cat, or even fish or insect, I see a living, breathing soul.
honestly it's probably for the best that he not mention it considering he's not involved in the community
I can deal with furries.
But Otherkin?
Otherkin, and I quote, "believe they are not entirely human".
They're right. They're not human. At all.
@NebulaRanger Dammit!
I love the idea that the dude who did the gas attack wasn’t a furry and is seething because he’s referred to as a furry
The person who attacked Midwest fur fest probably wasn’t a furry
It was probably a person who hated furries, and did this to spite them. I’ve seen many people online who hate furries enough to do something like that.
When you hate a group of people so much you commit a domestic terror attack on innocent people and still see yourself as the good guy
That isn't true. That's the story the media pushed. Furrys were trying to make drugs, and ended up making a toxic gas.
@@braedenmclean5304 welcome to earth (:
At least now we know that anti-furs are enemies of America. :)
Gee, you think Sherlock??
The amount of alliteration you squeezed into this one is impressive
As im watching this, im like why do the last criminals look familiar, then in the article i see the address, that man was my neighbor, may he rest in peace, i remember he had a husky and a german shepard, he would set up christmas decorations every year, he was a good person, who we never had a problem with, i can remember afterwards as months went by all the furiniture, everything being dumped thrown away, that morning the street was covered in cops, may he rest in peace
Edit: saddest part is that man had a daughter, cause of mfs with sad lives a girl has to grow up without a father, again que DEP
The degenerates get a pass way too often
i still remember about that brony who killed himself and shot up a store and blames it all on how he can't be with his favorite my little pony character
Yea.
I think its scarily weird that there was another case exactly like that only replace My little pony with a danny phantom character
😂 I bursted out laughing at the: Autistic Defense, I don't know why 😅
Other fun fact silver is hypoallergenic. Sterling silver tends to contain nickle, which many people are allergic.
I have friends who were at the con that got gassed. It really sucked to see how terrified everyone was and meanwhile news reporters were laughing at them because of the costumes.
Yea.
Being a furry is willingly turning on hardmode irl
Yeah probably because the costumes are amusing… lol
I'm sorry to hear that I hope they're ok now
They deserve too be laughed at
I'm surprised Kero the wolf and hypnotist sappho aren't on here given their infamy
Messy tails (im not done the video)
The first story here is an event I actually witnessed personally, at least to an extent. I did attend that con (which is colloquially now known as "Gas Con" among many in the fandom). I personally was far from the source on the 9th floor at the time, playing cards in the basement of the hotel, so I didn't smell anything right then, and I don't think others in the same room did either, since when the fire alarms went off, we didn't know what to make of it. I remember we were trying to figure out exactly what was going on, and a couple people speculated that perhaps this was a fire drill. Shortly thereafter, we were herded outside for a while, many of us (including myself) were for a good few minutes still trying to figure out what was going on. Not long after, we started hearing bits and pieces about there being some sort of attack. Since this took place in the winter in Chicago, it was absolutely freezing outside, and (I am assuming because of that), we were eventually temporarily moved into the convention center next door. As of maybe a few years afterward, the convention center actually became part of the convention itself, due to growing attendance, but at the time the convention was only held in the hotel part of the center. The convention center next door that year was preparing for a dog show, but was otherwise empty, so we were moved into the convention center, into a large concrete room. There were some dogs there, and you could see them (and smell them) in their kennels, but it was otherwise just the convention attendees. Wavy mentions that most of the people were not at the convention at that time, but that's not entirely true from what I saw, at least. The room was absolutely packed to the brim, and since it wasn't much past midnight from what I remember when the event occurred, a lot of people were still wide awake and interacting just before the alarms went off. It was quite a few hours before we were finally allowed back into the hotel, and even after that, none of us were allowed to leave for (I think) another hour or so.
When I got back into the hotel, I was able to smell the chlorine, which I hadn't smelled initially, but I was in a different part of the building at this time (the main floor). I remember that my asthma acted up a little bit around this point, and I had to take my portable nebulizer, but I am unsure whether it was from the remnants of the chlorine or simply from walking around in cold, dry air for so long. I suspect the latter. I didn't get to go home until about seven in the morning, as I had commuted, and was not staying at the convention. I was distraught, shaken and exhausted. I did attempt to go back to the convention the next day, but ended up leaving after only a few hours because I was far too tired and stressed from the night before.
I am not as active in the furry community anymore, simply because it's gotten too big and impersonal for me, and also because I don't relate to it as much as I once did. I haven't attended a furry convention at all for a few years now, but not because of the events I witnessed at that particular convention. I just have moved on in my life.
I like that this video doesn't treat furries as an intrinsically bad group! As an outsider to the whole furry thing, I felt as though people were far too judgmental of them. Even if this video catalogues some of the terrible shit people in the furry community have done, it still manages to show that the community at large isn't itself the worst thing in the world. The first story was a good choice to open with!
You are all mentally ill
Yeah Its especially a fresher take after seeing Ruben sim's shitty Twitter post
They are an inherently bad group. It's objectively disgusting and a mental illness.
@@lemoniieeee Wait who's Ruben sim?
@@JewelWildmoon a UA-camr that used to make Roblox videos but got unjustly sure by Roblox for a lot of money
recently(yesterday I think) he made a Twitter post saying all furries are groomers and pedophiles among other shitty stuff
I'm so curious what Wolfie is doing these days. I tried to look her up and I found some stuff about her maybe being ftm( so he? and a fairly recent comment on a subreddit that she's in prison but I don't know if any of that's true. There is no official confirmation of any of it. Also, if possible, I'd love to see a video about the DDLG community. Such a weird obscure community I fell into some rabbit holes about in my teens. Haven't heard anything about them in years. Specifically, a member named Stephen Parker. I was fully in that rabbithole as a teen and he did have a bit of drama and controversy that could be talked about. God only knows if there's been more since. I have no idea what he's doing these days. As I type this, it's actually officially hitting 2023. I can hear the fireworks. I can't believe I have been typing this comment for two years. Happy new year, wavy! 😂
Lol happy new year
I think a Tumblr UA-cam did a video on wolfie but I rlly don't remember what there name is.. it was very thorough deep dive into her or I suppose now his life! Tlly worth the watch... I looked it up, strange Aeons
@@Th3-3nd holy shit
@@Th3-3nd I remember Chubs, He used to always say "if there's grass on the field play ball"
I suppose the DDLG part could be easy enough when it comes to finding people. Stephen made a video on his UA-cam channel Stevop like a month ago about the subject. DDLG and related kinks are probably a lot less popular and accepted than they may have felt like for you though, a lot of people will still call men in the community pedophiles (or openly mock and bully them if they're into the "baby" role) so even the few people who are public about the kink might hesitate to give interviews.
I like how in this episode Wavy went back to story he’s touched on and went into more detail than he did in the original video (which was made a year ago) and I think he should do this more often
I love all the puns. Also why does Kaitlyn look like her "fursona" would be a horse
The phrase “yiff in hell” came about for a reason. Some objectively evil people not only did awful things, but tried to attach themselves to normal, good intentioned people and tried to drag them down with them when they got caught.
Basically LGBTQAP+
@@abualofenkasi5634 what??
@@abualofenkasi5634 for a second I thought you meant the whole "gay people are groomers thing."
Then I remembered MAPs and such, you probably could've made that comparison a little more elegantly .
@@vapid6311 was kind of my point in the original comment. Maps & zoos trying to attach themselves to a movement that’s trying to make real progress and actively damaging and dragging down others to avoid persecution.
It's just what the depraved "kiddie lovers" tried to do with the LGBT+ community. The only difference being that, as someone from the community, I think bad people have become the majority of the group
I like how you call a group of furries a herd
Surely that's a group of bronies? 😂
@Stu93 maybe a "litter" would be better then
@@yaboityler2617 A pack is a better word.
Seems more like a “gaggle”.
An embarrassment
I like how wolfies mom is just chillin on her phone laying on the bed in the background of her videos 😂😂
13:41 can we appreciate just how much research Wavy does, even if it’s for such a niche part of the story?
"Thankfully 18 of the 19 who were sent to the hospital were released the next day."
...W-what happened to the 19th one?
*Ah simple, they were sent home approximately 1 minute after that day.*
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Good question
Chlorine gas is heavier than air so shattering the bottle on the ninth floor would have caused the gas to ‘float’ down the stairwell so in a panic people could have been hurt worse by trying to get out by going down the stairs. Scary stuff
Interesting to know...
@@Silvia.Araujo ur plotting something
@@sonichegehodge5778 Teehee 🤫
@@Silvia.Araujo pls no
@@abualofenkasi5634 What's done is done.
the research and effort that goes into these is insane and should not be understated. Amazing video Wavy :)
I met the Yosts and Katelyn quite a few times. That whole murder rocked all of us.
LOVE YOUR videos wavy keep it up
Makes you wonder how many of these furries commit heresy onto their pets and no one knows about it.🤢
I just entered 2023 exactly 23 minutes ago and a video about furries is the one I chose to greet it with. Happy New Year, everyone.
Oh really
Well now. Feels like 2023.
Every single interaction with a furry I've ever had has been nothing but positive, and it's terrible in my opinion that the community is judged by the actions of a small subset of the furry community that the normal, every day people who also belong to the community would rather not have around. It's just like any other group of people. The larger the number gets the more likely it is the weirdos will work their way in. To my friends in the community, I love you guys and gals and everything in between. I know you're not bad or scary people.
OK. Furry. What iteration of comment section posting from your furry community did you get this from? Go check those peoples computers and phones. I bet they are disgusting animal fetishists.
L opinion
Majority I’ve met are weirdos 🤣
Thank you for the support!
@@alexjohnson439 I've met weirdos from... Every single hobby and Fandom I can think of actually. This includes furries of course, there's weird people everywhere. As long as they aren't doing any harm to people or animals I say let them be weird
thank you for making this video, it will provide information to keep every one safe
The timing of this video after a content creator makes a tweet calling furries child groomers could not be more comedic.
Wait who tweeted that?
@@medesanoovest RubenSim.
@@OverZeelous for someone who hates furries he talks an awful lot about them
@@guh6965Exactly lmfaooo
Happy new year, my guys! 🎉
Same to you
R u gay ?
Happy new year to your son zachary
Thanks bro
Happy New Years ❤🎉
22:21 An entire video focusing on (typically) wolf/dog fur suits and the only word jumping out at me is horse.
im grateful that you made sure not to paint furries as a community of horrible people but just a community like any other that, like any other has horrible people sprinkled throughout it
11:20
My brain: “What a monster! Is he defending this!?! Why does he even go for an interview! This man is dis… Are those hancuffs pink? …is this a furry-run prison by any chance? No, they’re not fluffy enough for that. Where was I? Oh yeah! I HATE THIS GUY!”
As someone who collects (ethically sourced, of course!) taxidermy it’s fascinating to me when channels cover the Wolfie story and pretend to be completely unfamiliar with what taxidermy is.
I just don't get how people find taxidermists weird, but not morticians.
@@Psycho_herb Morticians are giving a person a chance to say goodbye. Most taxidermy is over hunting trophies. I'm all for ethical hunting, but I don't get hunting trophies as no meat was harvested.
The only real good part of taxidermy is they get a chance to practice for museums and collections such as yours. You know, educational pieces.
@@LegendStormcrow I only collect ethically sourced specimens, primarily insects and wet specimens, that were collected postmortem. I’m with you, I don’t agree with hunting for sport or trophies.
@@LegendStormcrow sport hunting is disgusting and a complete waste of life. I hate those hunters with a passion (personally wish you could nutshot trophy hunters) if you are going to hunt something eat it and use every part possible. Though I don't have a collection and never will but I don't judge those who do as it's the same as someone who collects Legos, swords, and such. It's a hobby, and they think they are interesting or cool.
Also most importantly it was a joke. People who taxidermy animals are gross but not the people who mess with other dead people. Doesn't really make sense to me (they are dead bodies if you think it's weird both should be weird). All Wolfie did was preserve the skull, etc; it's the internet and a lot of dogs of the same breed look alike. Lady was just too hopeful to see her dog one last time instead of thinking logically and assuming a coyote ate the poor thing she saw the picture of raz's dog and went the "you stole my dog" route.
Do you mean Sr. Websurf or just in general, I don't feel like he said anything bad
Wow crazy to see this video today. I'm a fursuit maker, I almost worked on something made by lockjawarts on a collaborative project. This was RIGHT before they were discovered as murders, the reason I ended up not working with them actually was because they went on the run while my client was trying to get their order. Haven't finished the video yet, but bravo on reporting their story accurately and without the rumours that came from it. People were saying that they turned the dog into a fursuit which was completely false and was spread around like wildfire when it happened.
Presumably to give the story more shock value, I suppose.
Yep, did not feel comfortable reporting that allegation. Not enough proof.
@@wavywebsurf appreciate that! Thanks again for your work. I still have and use my taclight that I bought after watching your video on them way back in the day.
Wow thats awesome man, you have been around for ages then! Thanks for being a fan and happy new years.
@@wavywebsurf I sure have been! I was one of the first staff members you brought into your discord, still there today under the same username actually :D
Happy new years! Hope it's a good one
Wolfie sounds like a normal taxidermist to me, a bit strange of a character. I’ve processed tons of wild and domestic animals with no ill intention. Im a hunter, I know my laws, I participate in a lot of conservation and environmental projects. I have my fair share of “explicit photos” of animals I’ve worked on. On a daily basis I get compared to serial killers or overall just called an animal torturer, which at first I’d play this off like a joke but now it just hurts because it’s nothing that I would every do or want to do. Although I don’t look eye to eye with Wolfie, I’m a taxidermist and fellow Vulture Culture member, and I understand were they’re coming from.
Congrats on that sponsorship, homie, they’re a pretty big name. Well deserved. HNY, Wavy. 🌊🌊🌊
12:15 imagine walking through the woods to pee and seeing this while youre on your camping trip
A quick check through the timestamp without finding mentions of Brownnose pup can only mean that this is going to be so much worse than I thought.
nah these were kinda tame
Brownose pup is so tame and harmless compared to other bad furries you can find. Well, not all of them are bad, but there's a lot of furry assholes
or kero......or khord kitty.....GOD WHY DO I HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT SO MANY POS'S?!
@@ddjsoyenby that’s what being on the internet long enough does
The only ones I know of are Kero the Wolf, Khord Kitty, and Saffo, all of which were covered by Turkey Tom, which is how I primarily heard of them. He mentioned some other sex offending furries in the midst of these videos, but those were the major ones that he covered.
I have no idea who Brownnose Pup is though.
When he said “fur fest gas attack”, I immediately thought of skunks fighting in the trenches