From what I have gathered from life furries are just degenerate people, but with that said I can't help but feel like a cult of Christians were behind it all, from planting drugs in the hallways to walking around in diapers, to sabotaging the toilets to sabotaging the pumps and much more.
Rainfurrest hosted most people banned from other furcons cause “this is a con that’s open to all” They should’ve known those people were banned for a reason...
It's the diapers that trip me up. It's either an obsession with feces or a strong desire to become an infant, which absolutely is connected to either a mental disorder or a childhood trauma which needs to be addressed with medication and therapy.
Hotels are not enemies, at least here in my city we mantain a good relationship with all hotels. They send us customers when they are full, we send them customers when we are full.
@@themissinggene Yeah I knew that bars and other buisnises like that shared information on such things. But I didn't know that it also aplied to diffrent industry's.
He's the voice of a few millions persons community that suffers for almost 2 decades of stereotypes, judgment, prejudice, hate, over few dozens of peoples
@@Liam_The_Great I am not fond of the community, there are a lot of bad actors and bad elements to the culture. That said, furries along with everyone else should be treated with basic decency and judged by their character. There are much worse things than being weird.
Arcadi Moral I know this is probably a joke question, but most likely not. HIV is spread through direct exchange of bodily fluids: meaning blood, sexual fluids, plasma, etc.
Something just kills me about the "We are terminating your contract for the following reasons:" with just "Degeneracy" followed by nine "see above." 4:30
Hotel managers, CEOs, diplomats, stewardesses, kings and VIPs in general have such a classy way to express themselves when their ability to handle disgusting behaviour is tested to the extreme...
@@childofflesh1591 Jesus Christ: "and behold, from this one fish I bestow upon y... What are you doing back there? AW!" "Look dad I need you to come and get me a little earlier than we planned ok? No, for real. I don't know, maybe you can call Judas? He's a bro and I heard he has a hookup."
The organizers thought they were being so inclusive and welcoming when they chose not to heed the "Do Not Invite" list. They didn't seem to consider that the people on that list are there for a reason.
It's the good old paradox of tolerance, unfortunately. Theoretically, it's a good idea to be open minded, to allow for second chances, and to be as inclusive as possible. Unfortunately, a not insignificant amount of any given population doesn't know how to behave themselves and refuse to learn, and a different segment whose idea of a good time is making sure everybody else is having a bad time.
Ignoring the stupidity of the drugs users and such... I can't help but think the Diaper Saboteur was the one who sabotaged the toilets and other things, that would affect all individuals versus a lone few, like the drug peddler and his buyer. It ain't a stretch either... there is some crazy fucks out there. Even if people are generally being normal members of society(albeit dressed in a mascot costume) you run the risk of someone trying to poison everyone with a gas leak or burn them alive. Yeah, some people are more sick in the head than any con goer.
I know this is probably mentioned elsewhere, But rainfurrest was made by people who were kicked out of OTHER furry conventions .This con was made to fail before it even started.
Wow they must’ve been really at the bottom of the barrel degeneracy wise, cause furry culture is pretty much centered around porn and these people did something so horrible they got kicked out of a porn convention.
It's so funny how people were trying to justify these guys' actions like "dude it's a fetish con, if you're going to shame others for their personal hobbies than that's your problem" NO DUDE YOU DON'T GO AROUND A HOTEL LOBBY WITH A GIMP MASK AND A SOILED DIAPER ON
Exactly. Do what you want as long as it makes you happy and isn't hurting anyone, but don't shove your fetishes in the face of people who didn't consent to see that kind of stuff.
See the thing that bugs me about calling it a Fetish Con is that conventions that actually focus on fetishes have private areas and ask that you keep nsfw stuff in the private areas so as to not bother other guests. Adult conventions do exist, but this one wasn't advertised as one and didn't relegate this stuff to private areas. I don't mind if someone goes to Freaky Diaper Shitting Con 2019, but that convention isn't going to have the Open Shit panel in the open bc they respect the hotel. I think the fetish community honestly really hates being associated with groups like this bc it makes everyone look bad.
Props to the guy who said, "let's build a server room right underneath the bathrooms. That way, when the bathroom floods, the servers will be watercooled!"
@@rin_etoware_2989 They're a multi-million dollar hotel chain. It's their faults for going cheap and shoddy. That being said, most of this (like the toilet leak) is probably because of the unknown furry saboteur anyway.
I stayed in this hotel and didn’t find out that Rainfurrest was held there until after I left. I shudder to think what could have happened in the room I stayed in.
I had a roommate who worked for a hotel cleaning service and got the call to clean up the 2015 Hilton mess after the furries left. The bill was in the tens of thousands because of all the human feces that had been ground into the carpets. He said it looked like people were crapping on the floors then stomping it into the carpet on purpose. None of us believed him when he told us the story because none of us knew what a furry was so it seemed impossible a person would do such a thing intentionally. In hindsight i miss those simpler and more innocent times when i didn't know those kid of people existed and still had a sliver of faith in humanity.
Literally how could you not know what a furry was in 2015? Thats actually impossible unless you're 75 years old or live in isolation out in the countryside.
Usually if an event is going to have enough people in the host hotel that they end up buying up all of the rooms, the hotel can be closed to the public, often with signs blocking the view into the hotel and stating so.
Man, just remember, it’s not your money, you are just an employee. As an employer I’d be very honored to have you as a member, but still, your employer is making way more money than you do. Like, way more.
Can you imagine you're on a business trip, getting done with a long day, you walk into your hotel and see hundreds of inebriated grown adults in animal costumes.
I use to deliver pizza in San Jose. The furry convention was held at the radisson by the airport. They placed a lot of pizza orders, and I saw some shit… the hot tub got closed after the first year or two because diapers were clogging it. I got propositioned to get “pounced” in an elevator. One room had the door open, where a bunch of 60-70 year old men in tighty whities were surrounded a bed with some 18 year old twink in his underwear was standing on. And much, much more. After a few years I realized they found a new hotel downtown and these people were out and about in the community. None of this video surprises me
Imagine working everyday for a year so your family can go on a nice vacation to Seattle and when you get to your hotel you are met with a furry shitting his diaper in the lobby.
rainfurrest is the exact reason why furry cons in seattle/washington now are so insanely strict on their NO NFSW FAMILY FRIENDLY ONLY rule. if your outfit is even leaning a bit too risque, they will ask you to change or throw you out. i think it's a good thing, they want to enjoy their hobby safely and in a sfw fashion with no chance of an event like rainfurrest happening ever again.
As much as I hate to say it, there was probably a furry who wished they were at the nuclear engineering conference, while people who were at the engineering conference wished they were at the furcon. And there probably one dude who went to both
"This next mission will send you to the urban streets of USA, The leader of the satanic cult and ALL of his followers need to be stopped in anyway, Good luck 47"
I can imagine being the owner of the hotel and hearing that your hotel was vandalized and thinking it was probably caused by wannabe troublemakers only to find out it was caused by people in animal costumes
Im probably on the same list as these furries, since they stayed at a hilton too. I kept doing too many drugs and they would kick me out, but I would be so high off the drugs I'd just go back there like 2 days later and for some reason they always forgot and let me get a room again. Until one day when I got in trouble cause I wasnt even paying for the rooms anymore, I just had my RV, Car, and moped parked in the parking lot for a few days cause I was tired of aying so much in hotels. They towed my moped and told me I had to find a tow for my RV so I posted on facebook asking for help, but some joker went to the hiton and said "Yeahh mike sent me, just give me the keys" which they did even tho I never sent anyone to pick it, so then my whole house was basically stolen. I was don alot of meth at the time so my response to that was to start putting up signs saying how much they sucked, standing by gas stations near the hotel telling people that they sucked, and yeahh I kept going to the hotel to leave post it notes everywhere sayng how much t sucked, they'd take pictures of me doing it but I didn;t really care I wanted justice for my RV I;m off meth now tho so I don;t do anythng like that anymore Oh yeahh, the point of that story was, at one point they told me I had been reported to the Hilton corporate office several times now and they basically knew me by name
i think that hes refering to the real guy who did it and that hes asuming he would be watching that clip or he was just looking in that general direction
@LtLampshade I don't get it, why would they do that? Attend the convention, act like a degenerate and then report that same behavior to other hotels so that it doesn't happen again?
I thought that was a clip shown "in medias res," like, 2/3 of the way through the con or something, as a teaser for later. No, it was perfectly in sequence with the video. Goddamn is that cursed.
Imagine walking into this nightmare and being the one to clean up the mess, and not only that, but also finding needles, masks, and diapers everywhere, and wondering, "what the **** happened here?"
This was one of my main inspirations for writing my screenplay for my adaptation of the island of Doctor Moreau, and now that I’ve finished writing it I’d like to thank the internet historian for shedding light on this degeneracy
i can only imagine the pure fear felt by the employees who happened to look out the hilton windows as that one guy went running by yelling about RF 2017
I stayed there for a dance competition taking place in the hotel that I'm pretty sure was post-Rainfurrest in the same year, and thankfully I was blissfully unaware of the horrors that had taken place. Shoutout to their cleaning crew
I remember going to San japan in SA 2015 and not being aware as to why every host made such a huge deal about being good to the hotel. I just thought, "yeah, duh"
What really caused Rainfurrest to fail was the fact that the convention didn't ban anyone, so furries who were banned from other conventions for good reason arrived and showed everyone exactly why they're blacklisted from everything fur-con related. Basically, the worst of the worst showed up simply because they could and made the whole thing a living nightmare. Every fandom who holds conventions has a blacklist, and I'm fairly certain that if another fandom hosted a convention without their blacklist you'd get a similar result to Rainfurrest if not worse.
I mean I don't know many fandoms that are known for shitting yourself and acting like an animal, I believe this was a result of the no blacklist and the fact this was centred around a hobby that's also a fetish. Everyone acted like animals because they think they should be allowed to but societal norms don't accept it, put them in a place with a bunch of people who feel the same way. They'll throw all care to the wind and be a fuckstick for a day 🤷♂️
You know who I feel the most sorry for? The hotel workers who already have a hard time doing their jobs and now they have to clean all this mess up that was caused by some degenerates.
A lot of Furries don't really seem to understand what's socially acceptable. Fursuiting on its own is treading the line for a LOT of people. Things like this only make it worse for the whole community.
@@alertaidiota6227 Haha yes. "Your profile pic/username is of a fandom I don't like, therefore your argument is invalid." Such a unique and powerful argument.
@@alertaidiota6227 Bro. We're all strangers. You're going on a petty rant on someone who I'm 99% sure isn't going to change a single thing about them based on what you do or say. Ya gotta chill lol
Noah Ariss but we can’t really control the degenerates in our community, I don’t know what happened with Rainfurrest, because literally no other convention has had this issue. :c
@@sgtruru It was an issue that didn't get solved before 2015, so it evolved into crap that got the place shut down. AFAIK the owner/organizer (guy with Mic) was too lenient on his friends' dumb to dangerous antics, there's more history than just 2015 but it was that year everything came to a head and down goes the ship. (IIRC they weren't even staff really, they just were friends with the main guy, so they weren't punished/discouraged properly in previous years. I think I read they/some of them actively resented the fact the owner let the diaper furries be welcome in the first place? so the sabotage is that result.)
As a Furry, I’d go and get my damn money back 10 mins after walking into this anomaly of a Fur convention. I can’t imagine having to be there to work. 🤢
What's crazy is that the announcements the staff made to the con goers sounded like they were talking to literal children. These are actual living adults who need to be told how to behave in public. Respect yourself, respect others. Don't destroy shit that isn't yours.
well yeah.. they dress up as animals, pretend to *be* animals, and i'm sure not many of them have actual social or school lives considering they even considered going to one of these things.. also.. *CRINKLING?!* a fetish revolving around wearing and seeing others wearing diapers and acting like children? there's not much else you can expect but to see a bunch of overaged children when you host, attend, or even see anything about this mess
70% of furries surveyed, according to Wikipedia, had a post-high school education, aka a lot of college people. So, take that as you will. Also, do note this event was the extreme of furry conventions, doesn't mean they haven't stopped doing disgusting stuff in conventions. Added: Deeper in the comment section, I also learned rainfurrest also did not ban any of the participants that were banned at all the other conventions. Well, I guess you can tell what happened.
@@DHTGK well of course more privileged people are gonna be higher in degeneracy, most furries have little struggles in life besides first world problems. Doubt impoverished bob is gonna be worrying about his fursona.
When my dad was going through his divorce, and me and him were out of a place to live, we lived in a Best Western for about 6 months of my Sophomore year of High-school. It wasn't a bad hotel, we actually got the VIP suites on the house that were never booked because nobody could afford them, and my dad did maintenance work there. It was actually pretty nice. But one night, out of nowhere we find out that we need to pack up and find somewhere else to sleep because a Swinger Convention was coming into town. With no money, I ended up sleeping in the Maintenance room under a desk, and my dad slept in his truck becuase there was hardly any room in what was essentially a storage closet. But just outside this dingy room filled with lamps and tables, I could see the lights from the hallway gleaming through the underside of the door. The shrieks, the fur suit paws occasionally jogging by. It was a night in hell having to listen to the moans and laughs. At one point, I looked out the peep hole of the door to see a 50-60 year old man, just walking casually down the hallway with a leather Jockstrap on eating a donut. . . I will never forget that night. The next morning the hotel staff had to dispose of the sheets from 47 different rooms.
it's more likely it was sabotage. The implication is it was a former organizer who was cast out for their behaviour and decided to tank the con since they couldn't be a part of it anymore.
Its so funny seeing people surprised at this... i had to watch this go down live on social media when it happened and trust me, internet historian gave u guys the clean version
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 he doesn't always cover stuff as it happens. That's why he was the internet historian. I'd watch this kind of video about any old atuff
The video itself is fucking great. The insults are old and stale. The manufacturers haven't updated their whole supply chain and factories since the early 2000s. I'm honestly disappointed.
Internet Historian remarked that Dashcon was the worst con in his Q&A at his second channel though. The Q&A was done before Fyre festival was out, so Fyre might take the cake for the worst one by Internet Historian
"I would never advocate violence against someone for being different, no matter how bizarre they may be." *Finds a used adult diaper on the hood of my car* "Except for that guy. Fuck that guy."
in a certain country (not gonna name it), there’s a couple having fun and throw a used condom on a car.. (was posted by the owner asking what kinda sins have he committed that someone would throw a used condom on his car)
This is the kind of thing that happens when people who were never invited to a party in high school or college get access to drugs and throw their own party
@@southernpennsyrailfan8579 Don't do drugs. Reasons: 1. Causes degeneracy 2. See above 3. See above 4. See above 5. See above 6. See above 7. See above 8. See above 9. See above 10. See above
I think sone of the intentional sabotage might have been some crazed radical ‘I hate fursuit nerds hurdur’ rather than convention goers. Or maybe they really do be partying hard
we had to pull security for one of these events last april, we kept running the ID’s through the sexual assault registry and it came out to like 30% were on there.
@@AmicusAdastra Most likely. Fur Cons are really bad about getting rid of predators both of children and actual animals in general. A lot of the predators are often buddies with con chairs and the like. So they can slip in more easily.
People saying they hate furries because of this; the ironic thing is people hated furries long before this happened This was like adding a stick of dynamite on an already very large tower fire
@@jackieohecc dude I watched the documentary on it. With Kiro, Snakething and that zoosadist in Cuba. It was intense. Good to see that some justice was given out, but it looks like several got away.
Sukki Blue yeah you tell yourself that, as you rip each other apart with your actions. Didn’t you compare people’s belief in Islam to this fetish subculture? I mean that’s some quality corn fed ignorance right there.
6:37 Just imagine the sheer terror of being a staff member of the hotel and watching a furry running full speed at you, while having flashbacks of what originally happened two years before.
I agree. You are hoarding art and by extension holding the human race back. I cannot believe that one person can be so selfish and so crass as to hold this back.
i work in a primary school and all this is literally what the least behaved 6 year olds do when they feel no one is watching them. it is unbelievable how some people have not grown up even a bit from that age.
Imagine being an average plumber and then called to fix a broken water pipe at a convention and there's just a bunch of people in furry suits in the main lobby.
" Alpha bravo Delta Tango! Let's rock and roll boys, rock and roll!" * meanwhile up above, a squadron of B-52 bombers filled to the brim with Napalm bombs Flew Over the drop site as they dropped their humongous load of death upon the oblivious furries in the trees*
@No YeLLInG On THE BuS ...you honestly believe out of all the things that happened, people wearing fursuits was the most degenerate thing to happen at Rainfurrest?
I love the somber music in the beginning, it’s like you’re making a video about some kind of tragedy. In a way you were, because this was like witnessing a bloody trainwreck.
I like how other furies were complaining on twitter about the diaper thing. When a community is so welcoming that it causes weird people to be allowed in the fandom, it tends to cause internal conflicts within a fandom and bring down its reputation and sometimes make it split into different groups . This applies to a lot of other fandoms and groups.
@@TheUnknownDerg it's alright we all go on rambles once in a while. though might wanna separate somethings into separate paragraphs cause fuck is it hard to read blocks of text.
>Causes weird people to be allowed in the fandom. Yes, the last thing a fandom about pretending to be strange, talking, cartoon-like, animal people needs is to attract weird people. Also, you say weird people get into the fandom, causing conflicts and separating it into different groups, yet you suggest banishing people, separating the "weird" ones into what could be considered groups of people. Maybe the whole idea of being into animals and alt-personalities is abnormal, and attracts people who aren't normal. Just a thought.
Your videos are well organized and researched, your visuals are entertaining and well made, and you have a voice like silk. I commend your quality content sir.
lmfao well researched? so assuming that the ENTIRE fandom is like this MINORITY GROUP is well researched? oh wait of course you do your the typical ignorant cnn loving fuckboy so of course youll fall for shit like this :P theres a reason these people were kicked out of NORMAL conventions HOWEVER this convention was NOT a valid nor a SUPPORTED con by the fandom this was made by all the ass holes and sickos that were kicked out so they could have a con of there own and probably attempt to destroy the furry rep cause they are ass hurt that they got kicked out of the fandom lol
Honestly I am a furfag but this video was damn worth the watch. Also ignore nightshadow the name is proof he's an edgelord and the comment proves he's an idiot.
Here's how you circumvent such a thing: Have the attendees sign a property damages agreement. If they cause damage to the venue, they are legally and financially responsible. If they can afford their fursuits, they can afford damages.
@@godmagnus If I was hosting a con, I would have cameras outside of the delicate areas. The water pump at the pool, outside of the bathroom(In the hallway, not the stalls). If somebody loosened the bolts, we would know who came in first and last and be able to identify them by their suit. If they ditch the suit, we can send it to the police to look for DNA. Nobody would be able to get close to the water pump without being seen for certain, so that would be covered too. The hotboxing is probably the easiest. Residents of the room can be identified and dealt with without cameras up their asses. Remember, it's not an invasion of privacy if they're destroying my private property.
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 I don't think DNA will help much given that it can take years to process a rape kit, which would have a higher priority than vandalism, hopefully. Also, without a suspect and a warrant, they can only hope to get a hit in a database when they finally do get around to processing it.
The problem with RainFurrest was that they had all the requisite policies for proper behavior, but refused to enforce them. The top staff liked to brag that they had never kicked anyone out of the convention. And they refused to break that record, even when they really ought to have. They were like those people who want to be the cool parents, and so let their kids do whatever they like. That sort of total lack of discipline inevitably leads to disaster. Don't mourn RainFurrest. They thoroughly deserved their fate.
I feel bad for everyone who booked a family vacation in Washington and then when you get to your hotel you see a bunch of furrys running around wearing diapers and pooping in the pool, and then went to the desk asking for refunds only to be told about the 24 hour cancellation policy
Hi, I was there. I witnessed some of the absolute horror it was. I tried to warn them at their complaint panel at the end of con. They said " if it gets us attention, we don't see a need to do anything to change it." I was dumbstruck. I was the person who stood on the table to clear the main hall for the paramedics so they could reach the kid ODing on shrooms who'd tried to drown himself in the pool. After I had managed to direct traffic to clear the room. I was holding the door to redirect traffic till the paramedics had finished. I overheard people saying " oh this is a major incident, this means ppl are going to recognize rainfurrest as a major con now." I immediately asked wtf they were talking about and it was explained that every major convention became considered that after the con had a serious major incident where someone got hurt or arrested. I had never heard this before, but a lot of ppl agreed so it seemed that is was a commonly known thing. So I replied and said " that is a terrible thing to aim as the reason for anything to be considered major. I wouldn't want this horrible thing to be what our convention becomes known for... that's going to give furries bad reputation. We struggle with this enough as it is. This convention is supposed to be clean all around fun. " And everyone was just quiet after that some made sounds of agreement and seemed to pause in reflection. After this. I heard this same rumor several times throughout the rest of the entire con. I would stop and tell whoever I heard saying this the same thing. At one one of them said I had a good point and I should bring it up at the hiss and scratch at the end of the convention. I didn't even know they had a complaints panel, but I literally stayed for the rest of the entire convention (which had been an absolute fking literal shit filled nightmare) just to go to this fking panel and bring up my concerns about everything that I had heard and personally witnessed myself. Which was a lot. There were a lot of fked up things a lot of the con attendees aren't aware of that actually happened. Or heard inaccurate rumors of the incident. I know the truth however cus I actually saw what happened or talked directly to the person that had been a part of the incident and got the story directly. I was very passionate about rainfurrest, it had been my favorite convention. I used to do Anime cons, but after I went to RF the first time, I stopped all other cons entirely. I had some of the best times of my life at this con. I felt the most at home with the furry community. I felt like I genuinely could just openly be myself, and rainfurrest was my local furry convention. I re-shaped my entire artistic direction and career off furries becuase of this con. So ofc I was highly sensitive to anything that was going to put a stain on it. However after I got that responce from having brought these things to their attention and that I had feared the conventions reputation with the Hilton, and feared that we might not be able to keep the con here if these things kept happening.. And their responce was to shrug and go "so?" The arrogance and entitlement of the con hosts was quite honestly appalling. After that I heard the convention was shut down and it was so bad that someone had written a letter to ever venue in the state to warn them and there was literally no place that would take them. That sucked for the furry attendees in WA, but served those con hosts right. I told them... I fkin told them...Their ignorance destroyed my favorite con. Shame these were the reasons rainfurrest became a major con... a major example of a majorly bad con. I hate to say I told you so, cus it's never anything good. And thats why I hate when I'm right, cus Unfortunately I have always been right... I never heard on that kid that had been taken by the paramedics though. I hope he was okay. The thing about the towels in the hot tub is incorrect, the reality is worse. First someone shit in the hot tub the day prior having it closed for the day while they did an entire water change. The next day when they reopened the hot tub, I assume the same person who had shit in it shit in an adult diaper and then shoved it into the hot tub filter, which clogged jammed and broke the motor. Having the hot tub permanently out of service for the rest of the convention. Some of the vandalism had to do with some rooms that literally had shit smeared all over the walls like a Jackson Pollock painting. I wish I was joking, however I saw it myself. There were some rooms that were open to the halls like an open room party, but instead you got hit with that horrid human fecal matter smell and discover.... yeah... it was not pretty. And I heard from several others it wasn't the only room that had this happen. The halls smelling like Sh!t is not a joke. The elevator had been broken far worse than mention in that statement. Ppl had broke buttons on the control panel and a large group had decided to jump on the elevator as it was ascending. Causing a lot of wear on the mechanism that pulled the elevator up. Which ultimately caused the elevator to take a really long time. And being the only elevator to the main area of the convention center and suiters unable to take stairs. It was a long wait to get to the main part of the convention center. Eventually they had to limit the amount on the elevator to about 3 ppl each trip and had a staff member on duty riding the elevator to work the elevator and monitor the activity. Before that happened though, a few baby furs had decided to all togeather wait for the elevator to fill up and doors to close before all taking a crap in their diapers. And with the elevator taking like 10-15 mins a trip.. you can imagine what this was like for the other attendees who were trapped in there with them. I know this happened because I saw someone come off the elevator crying and found out what happened first hand, as I had been waiting for someone else to make it upstairs.
@Mister_Domm really? How do you know I'm lying? Cus I most certainly recall being there and I remember this shit like it was yesterday. I just only recently came across a report on this that led me to look it up. And knowing that they are still lying about it, acting like their willful ignorance had nothing to do with getting permabanned from every venue in the state pisses me right tf off. So I decided to try and set the record straight and reposting this to everyone who's made mention on it seemed the best way. A couple drug related arrests and medical emergencies is not enough to get completely blacklisted state wide. This kind of shit happens at a lot of conventions. It happened at sakura-con too before they moved to Seattle, the same Hilton didn't ban them for that shit. There's a reason the hotel staff wouldn't even acknowledge them when they went to try and discuss terms after the con was over. I was a volunteer several times before, this year I had Been a spotter for a fursuiter named Meep. That's who I'd been waiting for upstairs when the girl came running off the elevator crying, and I asked someone wtf happened, then led them to report this to con staff. Real shit. I got photos on my Google and Dropbox I'd taken from this convention too, to prove it. I go by jakthedrox, I have photos of the hand drawn commissions I did at RF that year as well. Tojo-the-theif and I were also supposed to have a "how to draw your dragon." Panel on Sunday. Me and Tojo had been working together on this since after the con the previous year and were super excited. But they also screwed us on this last second, moving our panel to early Friday and didn't ask or inform either one of us. It was over by the time I even got registered, and Tojo wasn't even arriving till sat... when I went and confronted them on this mistake. They just shrugged "whelp" and did nothing to fix it or compensate us for all the time and costs that went into preparation. Not only did they not apologize, but acted like it was our fault we hadn't known they'd suddenly changed the day and time of our panel. Tojo was so heartbroken. She didn't even come. Real fked up thing to do to your local VIP Artist guest of honor, if you ask me. Tojo-the-theif was one of Bad-Dragon's toy cover artists, and super famous. So tell me again, how do you know I'm a liar? Honestly, making a blanket statement with no evidence attempting to discredit me sounds like you're one of them, or one of their supporters who knows what I'm saying is actualy true, and trying to cover it up.
A bored billionaire needs to buy a convention center or hotel, install cameras everywhere, then offer to host Dashcon and Rainfurrest there, at the same time, and not tell the conventions about each other. With the camera footage being recorded and live-streamed
The true unsung hero's in this story are the house keepers who worked at this hotel. I can't imagine what they walked into.
A bed white and brown but not with dye
@@spartan5271 did you just have a stroke
i would have jumped off the nearest cliff ngl
I'd vomit, I swear
As a janitor who was there, it's all fun and games until you have to replace the carpet in half of the rooms and the halls smell musty for months.
"crinkling"? I don't think I've ever had a word physically hurt me until now.
dooglebob i felt that word kicking me in my balls too
dooglebob It spiritually hurt me.....deep
Kicking you in the balls isn't nearly enough, It feels like mike tyson bit my left testicle off.
*CRIPPLING*
-C R A W L I N G I N MY C R A W-
I can imagine that the people in the ambulance, probably taking off the furry's head, felt like Scooby Doo
Hahahahah underrated comment X-D
@@guilhermesartorato93 thank you
very underrated lol
"Jinkizes, It's mushroom overdose"
And he would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for you darned kids and you non dog who's also not a human in a costume!
This entire event can be summarized in one phrase:
“Dear God no…”
The entire furry community can be summarised by this sentence
@@gogodogodo3283The entire human race can be summarised like that, except maybe a few people
@@dracothedragonyoutube4376nah furries are the worst
From what I have gathered from life furries are just degenerate people, but with that said I can't help but feel like a cult of Christians were behind it all, from planting drugs in the hallways to walking around in diapers, to sabotaging the toilets to sabotaging the pumps and much more.
@@gogodogodo3283 no entire ma man
imagine being a cop. its your first day, and you get a call on the radio. when you get there you have to arrest someone in a fursuit for assault
And sexual assault
@@VeryTerrySR pause.
@@VeryTerrySR Say sike my man please say sike
@@VeryTerrySR *yes officer that man over there*
*oh wait-*
Plot twist: it's just Florida
Rainfurrest hosted most people banned from other furcons cause “this is a con that’s open to all”
They should’ve known those people were banned for a reason...
From what I’ve heard, most furcons are p fun, at least better than this shitshow (heh)
@@vedji1857 if every single furcon was like rainfurrest , furries would have been crucificated a long time ago.
It's the diapers that trip me up. It's either an obsession with feces or a strong desire to become an infant, which absolutely is connected to either a mental disorder or a childhood trauma which needs to be addressed with medication and therapy.
Filip Gasic Furries arent disgusting. It’s the ones that were at rainfurrest that were. They were banned from the main cons for a reason.
@@vedji1857 nah man furries need to be exiled
Imagine being so toxic, another hotel has to warn their competitors not to host them
Hotels are not enemies, at least here in my city we mantain a good relationship with all hotels. They send us customers when they are full, we send them customers when we are full.
@@MrChaosWeapon You learn something new everyday.
@@MrChaosWeapon hey what city is that?
Indeed, competing stores also share information about shoplifters and those who pass fraudulent checks, it's better for the financial ecosystem.
@@themissinggene Yeah I knew that bars and other buisnises like that shared information on such things. But I didn't know that it also aplied to diffrent industry's.
"PUT YOUR PANTS ON AND STOP BREAKING SHIT!"
That guy is the voice of a generation.
The voice of a community with some of the weirdest extremes personified, who others in the community look at and say wtf get out
He's the voice of a few millions persons community that suffers for almost 2 decades of stereotypes, judgment, prejudice, hate, over few dozens of peoples
@@AmicusAdastra lmao being a furry is fucking weird, and nothing will ever change that
@@AmicusAdastrais it a stereotype if it was just proven true real bad.
@@Liam_The_Great
I am not fond of the community, there are a lot of bad actors and bad elements to the culture. That said, furries along with everyone else should be treated with basic decency and judged by their character. There are much worse things than being weird.
It isn’t an internet historian video without a “pool’s closed” reference
Arcadi Moral I know this is probably a joke question, but most likely not. HIV is spread through direct exchange of bodily fluids: meaning blood, sexual fluids, plasma, etc.
@@micahdadbeh5955 unless you're into scat
@@micahdadbeh5955 btw don't look it up if you don't know what it means. Stay pure stranger.
@@onion4550 dude the entire video is about furries doing cursed shit,
We are all sinners now
@@boi4278 Ah crap
Something just kills me about the "We are terminating your contract for the following reasons:" with just "Degeneracy" followed by nine "see above." 4:30
Major problem was *degeneracy*
The humor probably. Can't be sure.
Well it is true.
Hotel managers, CEOs, diplomats, stewardesses, kings and VIPs in general have such a classy way to express themselves when their ability to handle disgusting behaviour is tested to the extreme...
This is the best comment on youtube
“Give a man a mask and he’ll show his true face”
“Give a man a fish and he’ll use it to pleasure himself”
@@childofflesh1591 Jesus Christ: "and behold, from this one fish I bestow upon y... What are you doing back there? AW!"
"Look dad I need you to come and get me a little earlier than we planned ok? No, for real. I don't know, maybe you can call Judas? He's a bro and I heard he has a hookup."
"Give a dog a pillow and it'll hump it"
like antifa
“Give a furry a fur suit and he’ll show his true nature”
The organizers thought they were being so inclusive and welcoming when they chose not to heed the "Do Not Invite" list. They didn't seem to consider that the people on that list are there for a reason.
yeah, step one to organizing an event is take good advice from people already running events
As they say, "don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out."
It's the good old paradox of tolerance, unfortunately. Theoretically, it's a good idea to be open minded, to allow for second chances, and to be as inclusive as possible. Unfortunately, a not insignificant amount of any given population doesn't know how to behave themselves and refuse to learn, and a different segment whose idea of a good time is making sure everybody else is having a bad time.
Usually people are shunned for a reason tbh.
@@reginaburks7414 i hate open minded people like you , gringo
“The diaper wearing saboteur had written another letter.” There’s a sentence I never thought I’d hear.
Ignoring the stupidity of the drugs users and such... I can't help but think the Diaper Saboteur was the one who sabotaged the toilets and other things, that would affect all individuals versus a lone few, like the drug peddler and his buyer.
It ain't a stretch either... there is some crazy fucks out there. Even if people are generally being normal members of society(albeit dressed in a mascot costume) you run the risk of someone trying to poison everyone with a gas leak or burn them alive. Yeah, some people are more sick in the head than any con goer.
It sounds like a Cyanide and Happiness character. "The Diaper Wearing Saboteur strikes again!"
A Dandy Gnar, In Space too degenerate. By furry standards. Hoo boy!
Ever heard of the underwear bomber?
Justin H Russia hacks our online grid. China shoots down satellites in space. But save us from the guy who sets his balls on fire!
I know this is probably mentioned elsewhere, But rainfurrest was made by people who were kicked out of OTHER furry conventions .This con was made to fail before it even started.
Huh, didn't know that.
Explains a lot ngl
Wow they must’ve been really at the bottom of the barrel degeneracy wise, cause furry culture is pretty much centered around porn and these people did something so horrible they got kicked out of a porn convention.
Redking03 by any chance are you a band kid?
@@BearTheFlame Nope. Sorry
Redking03 cool
If I hadn’t have watched this, I would never have learned what crinkling is. I really regret my decision.
And I would have never learned that a video from 2017 still gets comments about the crikeling :p
Don't worry. You'll forget it soon
@@GewelReal I went back to this video and remembered this word again. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@@GewelReal We won't let him. We'll crinkle that word into his very being!!!
@Lucas Portasio smh
It's so funny how people were trying to justify these guys' actions like "dude it's a fetish con, if you're going to shame others for their personal hobbies than that's your problem" NO DUDE YOU DON'T GO AROUND A HOTEL LOBBY WITH A GIMP MASK AND A SOILED DIAPER ON
Exactly. Do what you want as long as it makes you happy and isn't hurting anyone, but don't shove your fetishes in the face of people who didn't consent to see that kind of stuff.
See the thing that bugs me about calling it a Fetish Con is that conventions that actually focus on fetishes have private areas and ask that you keep nsfw stuff in the private areas so as to not bother other guests. Adult conventions do exist, but this one wasn't advertised as one and didn't relegate this stuff to private areas. I don't mind if someone goes to Freaky Diaper Shitting Con 2019, but that convention isn't going to have the Open Shit panel in the open bc they respect the hotel. I think the fetish community honestly really hates being associated with groups like this bc it makes everyone look bad.
Kinkshaming needs to come back.
@@plutonix5792 shoving your fetishes in unconsenting people's faces is the definition of hurting someone lol
As a furry, I completely agree with this. You shouldn’t literally wear your fetish on your sleeve like that, even if it is a fetish con.
Props to the guy who said, "let's build a server room right underneath the bathrooms. That way, when the bathroom floods, the servers will be watercooled!"
I was looking for this Comment!
More likely though is "There's no more space to put them in the hotel..."
Yes, I'm not invited to parties.
@Cat C I'm not going to help you.
@Cat C stfu
@@rin_etoware_2989 They're a multi-million dollar hotel chain. It's their faults for going cheap and shoddy. That being said, most of this (like the toilet leak) is probably because of the unknown furry saboteur anyway.
I stayed in this hotel and didn’t find out that Rainfurrest was held there until after I left. I shudder to think what could have happened in the room I stayed in.
It was a Holiday Inn in SeaTac if you were wondering.
Probably nothing
Whatever happened, you know the staff used as much bleach as they possibly could. ^-^;;
If I was the owner of the hotel I would burn it to the ground
Next time bring holy water
im so honored that my town was mentioned as the one who refused to take rainfurrest
I used to do Costco trips to your town, eh.
@@rondee i forgot we had one
I honestly never heard of Spokane my entire life
@@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 loser
@@vertized Well, I'm sorry Mr. "All-Roads-Lead-to-Spokane". I don't know that I'm supposed to be able to list all American cities on top of my head
I had a roommate who worked for a hotel cleaning service and got the call to clean up the 2015 Hilton mess after the furries left. The bill was in the tens of thousands because of all the human feces that had been ground into the carpets. He said it looked like people were crapping on the floors then stomping it into the carpet on purpose.
None of us believed him when he told us the story because none of us knew what a furry was so it seemed impossible a person would do such a thing intentionally.
In hindsight i miss those simpler and more innocent times when i didn't know those kid of people existed and still had a sliver of faith in humanity.
Dang
Literally how could you not know what a furry was in 2015? Thats actually impossible unless you're 75 years old or live in isolation out in the countryside.
@@NIgHTMaReFortyTwo Well, some people's parents loved them and didn't let them spend their entire lives unsupervised in front of a screen.
I didn't know about furries until 2017, im in my 30's
I’ve know about furries since I was 12 years old
I feel bad for the actual guests at that Hilton Hotel...
I know right
Imagine going on a family vacation with the kids and in the middle of the night you hear grown ass adults in furry suits running around.
Jesus Christ.
@EPIC EPIC
You know, if they Identify as animals, I should be legally allowed to hunt them.
Usually if an event is going to have enough people in the host hotel that they end up buying up all of the rooms, the hotel can be closed to the public, often with signs blocking the view into the hotel and stating so.
Hilton Hotel Guest: Time to look out my window!
*sees the event*
Hilton Hotel Guest: uh what
I work in a hotel and this gives me anxiety just watching this
Dont worry there rain furry thing is dead 👌
Man, just remember, it’s not your money, you are just an employee. As an employer I’d be very honored to have you as a member, but still, your employer is making way more money than you do. Like, way more.
But what scares me is the cleanup I use to clean in a motel and that was terrifying enough this would I think crush me
Working in a hotel - this honestly wouldn't be a big problem for me but I'd feel *so* bad for housekeeping... :(
May not be your company but if you work there, you'll have to help clean it; and if it fucks up the company enough it will fuck up your hours.
Can you imagine you're on a business trip, getting done with a long day, you walk into your hotel and see hundreds of inebriated grown adults in animal costumes.
Sounds like Disneyland workers.
JakeSpacePirate E are you the internet furry warrior
Memed A. Only when I need to be.
Elijah Watson *that are supreme thugs
almost enough to make you take it upon yourself to see no one else has to suffer like that again.
I use to deliver pizza in San Jose. The furry convention was held at the radisson by the airport. They placed a lot of pizza orders, and I saw some shit… the hot tub got closed after the first year or two because diapers were clogging it. I got propositioned to get “pounced” in an elevator. One room had the door open, where a bunch of 60-70 year old men in tighty whities were surrounded a bed with some 18 year old twink in his underwear was standing on. And much, much more.
After a few years I realized they found a new hotel downtown and these people were out and about in the community.
None of this video surprises me
A YEAR or two? What?
The janitors going in must've felt like Doomguy when he decided to stay behind in hell to keep it at bay.
I love this comment.
They are degens, without remorse. But you.
You will be much worse.
Repair and bleach
Until it is done.
The pay had to be worth it good god
I knew a janitor from there, once; it was just as bad as you'd expect.
i hope his paycheck quadrupled from that
Imagine working everyday for a year so your family can go on a nice vacation to Seattle and when you get to your hotel you are met with a furry shitting his diaper in the lobby.
1FCZ1LoneWolf kek
I know! Look at them waving at children and old people in those photographs. Holy white american jesus.
Voltaire XD grow up
Those are interesting statistics, I'm curious where you found those on google.
Astrobot 99 studying in university after a long and successful college corse ;)
Imagine the organizaers of Dashcon with the guests of Rainfurrest. A true convention from hell
Riley Sansoucy There has to be a point where people are so stupid that it never reaches opening day. There has to.
It just needs the hype of Fyre Festival and it’ll be perfect
@@NuKulaRGeAr And hosted by Tana.
Bitchslapped it’s like the infinity stones but instead of reality altering powers you get a convention that’s so bad laws are written because of it
God, you know I ain't a religious man, but have these two destroy each other and you've got a believer.
rainfurrest is the exact reason why furry cons in seattle/washington now are so insanely strict on their NO NFSW FAMILY FRIENDLY ONLY rule. if your outfit is even leaning a bit too risque, they will ask you to change or throw you out. i think it's a good thing, they want to enjoy their hobby safely and in a sfw fashion with no chance of an event like rainfurrest happening ever again.
Cant blame em considering.... Well the shitshow that is rainfurrest lol
@@muhammadapriputrakurniawan2222 Exactly
I once went to a nuclear engineering conference in San Diego that had a furry convention next door. Talk about a strange juxtaposition.
The nuclear con, and the "end results of when idiots fuck up in a nuclear reactor" con, right next to each other at last.
:|
I feel like there had to be at least one person that attended both
@@Kailuh727 That would have been hilarious.
As much as I hate to say it, there was probably a furry who wished they were at the nuclear engineering conference, while people who were at the engineering conference wished they were at the furcon. And there probably one dude who went to both
I can't imagine the mentality of someone who thinks, 'you know what, this furry convention is a bit too grounded in reality, let's do mushrooms'.
I mean I'd probably do it if people were shitting themselves in front of me
Imagine seeing a grown adult with diaper full of shit
Probably the same person who does drugs for the sole purpose of walking around Ren Faires
Drugs terrify the shit out of me so lmao no I cant picture myself doing that- Xd
Kai Sipe wonder if they got the shrooms from the shit
Imagine this as a mission in hitman
KILL EVERYBODHI
@@ЧистоеНебо-ш2ц exuactly
"This next mission will send you to the urban streets of USA, The leader of the satanic cult and ALL of his followers need to be stopped in anyway, Good luck 47"
Oooooh boi
No witnesses
I can imagine being the owner of the hotel and hearing that your hotel was vandalized and thinking it was probably caused by wannabe troublemakers only to find out it was caused by people in animal costumes
People? Nah those are animals
Im probably on the same list as these furries, since they stayed at a hilton too. I kept doing too many drugs and they would kick me out, but I would be so high off the drugs I'd just go back there like 2 days later and for some reason they always forgot and let me get a room again. Until one day when I got in trouble cause I wasnt even paying for the rooms anymore, I just had my RV, Car, and moped parked in the parking lot for a few days cause I was tired of aying so much in hotels. They towed my moped and told me I had to find a tow for my RV so I posted on facebook asking for help, but some joker went to the hiton and said "Yeahh mike sent me, just give me the keys" which they did even tho I never sent anyone to pick it, so then my whole house was basically stolen. I was don alot of meth at the time so my response to that was to start putting up signs saying how much they sucked, standing by gas stations near the hotel telling people that they sucked, and yeahh I kept going to the hotel to leave post it notes everywhere sayng how much t sucked, they'd take pictures of me doing it but I didn;t really care I wanted justice for my RV
I;m off meth now tho so I don;t do anythng like that anymore
Oh yeahh, the point of that story was, at one point they told me I had been reported to the Hilton corporate office several times now and they basically knew me by name
@@michaelboyle7281congrats on sobering from meth!
"And you're pretty much the only person who could've known that"
*very clearly stares at the cameraman*
Wait wha
i think that hes refering to the real guy who did it and that hes asuming he would be watching that clip or he was just looking in that general direction
@LtLampshade I don't get it, why would they do that? Attend the convention, act like a degenerate and then report that same behavior to other hotels so that it doesn't happen again?
Verty you and your hentai are so edgy my dude.
@@frenandin *Saboteur!!!*
Imagine opening a convention with "This convention was NOT a target of an evil curse. Don't worry."
I thought that was a clip shown "in medias res," like, 2/3 of the way through the con or something, as a teaser for later. No, it was perfectly in sequence with the video. Goddamn is that cursed.
Someone in the audience took that as a personal challenge apparently
But it was. The curse of furryism.
That sounds like something someone who was aware of a curse would say
You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.
No lie, Internet Historian is probably one of the most significant creators on the platform because of his type of content
Imagine walking into this nightmare and being the one to clean up the mess, and not only that, but also finding needles, masks, and diapers everywhere, and wondering, "what the **** happened here?"
Internet historian is a world treaure.
@@odinangie1377 a bit i guess just for entertainment purposes. But it doesnt take away from the actual information he’s putting out there
Pewdiepie is significanter
@@enoknab go back to school kid. Learn to read & write
This was one of my main inspirations for writing my screenplay for my adaptation of the island of Doctor Moreau, and now that I’ve finished writing it I’d like to thank the internet historian for shedding light on this degeneracy
i can only imagine the pure fear felt by the employees who happened to look out the hilton windows as that one guy went running by yelling about RF 2017
honestly this is my favorite part of the video, how he's too excited to even finish the word Hilton I laugh very hard
I can only imagine the manager was reaching for a shotgun.
SEAL THE BLAST DOORS
They propably took their hunting rifles out as soon as they saw him
Where are the roof koreans when you need them?
Imagine the smell that the hotel probably can't get rid of.
Ewww
I stayed there for a dance competition taking place in the hotel that I'm pretty sure was post-Rainfurrest in the same year, and thankfully I was blissfully unaware of the horrors that had taken place. Shoutout to their cleaning crew
@@kittenloverj get the hell out
Oh dear god
@@kittenloverj Plot twist: The whole building was destroyed and rebuild, and the debris were sent to space where no one could smell them again
This convention was so destructive that the hotel actually banned ALL fan conventions from ever using their space again.
I remember going to San japan in SA 2015 and not being aware as to why every host made such a huge deal about being good to the hotel. I just thought, "yeah, duh"
Oh no
Anyway
good move.
@@fireball2275 back to the studio
@@warmbeer2 and on that bombshell goodnight
2023 UPDATE: RF17 never happened, nor has any Rainfurrest event since
Thank God
2024 update: This guy is probably still correct
good
I'm from the future. 2035 here. Furries are still reviled and mocked
2047 update: Still correct.
*I feel awful for anyone who accidentally walked in on these people.*
Linklgas You can't accidentally walk on to cancer.
Actually since 7.6 million people die of cancer a year I dont think anyone's doing it intentionally
I walked into one, but that was at an *Anime* focussed convention.
Poor household, poor respectionists, poor waiters, POOÖOOOOOOOOOR people who have been there as intern that days
LmAO
I love the clip of the guy screaming "put your pants on and stop breaking shit"
Sums up everything perfectly.
Too bad hes a furry so he got a bad name by association.
For real, I think furries are pretty cool. I really like the costumes. I don't think this is the way to get people to like you lol.
S T O L E N M E M E S wow, no need to be rude
It’s even funnier that he’s in a fursuit
Lord knows what he did in that thing.
3:14 a vet ambulance... you fucking legend.
Fucking hilarious
Of course
That's really epic
Lmao
Hope they got their rabbies shots.
What really caused Rainfurrest to fail was the fact that the convention didn't ban anyone, so furries who were banned from other conventions for good reason arrived and showed everyone exactly why they're blacklisted from everything fur-con related. Basically, the worst of the worst showed up simply because they could and made the whole thing a living nightmare.
Every fandom who holds conventions has a blacklist, and I'm fairly certain that if another fandom hosted a convention without their blacklist you'd get a similar result to Rainfurrest if not worse.
Look at you, pretending furries aren't justifiably infamous for being degenerate even by the standards of internet degenerates.
I mean I don't know many fandoms that are known for shitting yourself and acting like an animal, I believe this was a result of the no blacklist and the fact this was centred around a hobby that's also a fetish. Everyone acted like animals because they think they should be allowed to but societal norms don't accept it, put them in a place with a bunch of people who feel the same way. They'll throw all care to the wind and be a fuckstick for a day 🤷♂️
Did the Carpet-Sample guy show up?
They have?
Then explain why there still many guys which are famous for grooming and etc and they are VIP quests?!
No, actually the vast majority of fandoms are on the positive side of sane compared to ANY Furry. Just no....
Imagine being a normal person going to Hilton Hotels and seeing THIS.
And hopefully that normal person did all the damage.
Time to ask for a refund.
@@AltruistiCynic *TIME TO ASK FOR A MEMORY WHIPE!*
Bruh if i worked there at the time
Id be like "im not getting paid enough for this , im taking my sick days now"
Me: Ight this 44. finna go off
You know who I feel the most sorry for? The hotel workers who already have a hard time doing their jobs and now they have to clean all this mess up that was caused by some degenerates.
@@alertaidiota6227 Dude you fucking play Roblox LMAO. Imagine trying to diss someone with a Roblox fp and then like ur own comment.
@@Zero-rq9ti i mean, roblox isnt that bad, i like it myself because it has some light and creativity.
A lot of Furries don't really seem to understand what's socially acceptable. Fursuiting on its own is treading the line for a LOT of people. Things like this only make it worse for the whole community.
@@alertaidiota6227 Haha yes. "Your profile pic/username is of a fandom I don't like, therefore your argument is invalid." Such a unique and powerful argument.
@@alertaidiota6227 Bro. We're all strangers. You're going on a petty rant on someone who I'm 99% sure isn't going to change a single thing about them based on what you do or say. Ya gotta chill lol
Literal children would be more pleasant to have in those hotels than most of the Rainfurrest attendees.
They both run around in diapers
Yeah, the community complains nobody represents them fairly when this literal crap happens. I just... Wow.
Noah Ariss but we can’t really control the degenerates in our community, I don’t know what happened with Rainfurrest, because literally no other convention has had this issue. :c
@@sgtruru It was an issue that didn't get solved before 2015, so it evolved into crap that got the place shut down.
AFAIK the owner/organizer (guy with Mic) was too lenient on his friends' dumb to dangerous antics, there's more history than just 2015 but it was that year everything came to a head and down goes the ship. (IIRC they weren't even staff really, they just were friends with the main guy, so they weren't punished/discouraged properly in previous years. I think I read they/some of them actively resented the fact the owner let the diaper furries be welcome in the first place? so the sabotage is that result.)
@@seantaggart7382 its their fault
I had to work on this day. It literally was the worst cause the smells were so awful it made some of the workers throw up
As a Furry, I’d go and get my damn money back 10 mins after walking into this anomaly of a Fur convention. I can’t imagine having to be there to work. 🤢
What's crazy is that the announcements the staff made to the con goers sounded like they were talking to literal children. These are actual living adults who need to be told how to behave in public. Respect yourself, respect others. Don't destroy shit that isn't yours.
If you've ever been to a big con a majority of the people need to be talked to like toddlers. It's annoying as all hell
They dress up as childish animal characters what do you expect
well yeah.. they dress up as animals, pretend to *be* animals, and i'm sure not many of them have actual social or school lives considering they even considered going to one of these things.. also.. *CRINKLING?!* a fetish revolving around wearing and seeing others wearing diapers and acting like children? there's not much else you can expect but to see a bunch of overaged children when you host, attend, or even see anything about this mess
70% of furries surveyed, according to Wikipedia, had a post-high school education, aka a lot of college people. So, take that as you will.
Also, do note this event was the extreme of furry conventions, doesn't mean they haven't stopped doing disgusting stuff in conventions.
Added: Deeper in the comment section, I also learned rainfurrest also did not ban any of the participants that were banned at all the other conventions. Well, I guess you can tell what happened.
@@DHTGK well of course more privileged people are gonna be higher in degeneracy, most furries have little struggles in life besides first world problems. Doubt impoverished bob is gonna be worrying about his fursona.
I’m sure the guy who sabotaged the event and warned the hotels can either be seen as the greatest party pooper or the greatest Anti-furry in history.
The greatest hero
He served his country well
A savior indeed
Careful he’s a hero
The greatest hero saving us from the furry menace
When my dad was going through his divorce, and me and him were out of a place to live, we lived in a Best Western for about 6 months of my Sophomore year of High-school. It wasn't a bad hotel, we actually got the VIP suites on the house that were never booked because nobody could afford them, and my dad did maintenance work there. It was actually pretty nice. But one night, out of nowhere we find out that we need to pack up and find somewhere else to sleep because a Swinger Convention was coming into town. With no money, I ended up sleeping in the Maintenance room under a desk, and my dad slept in his truck becuase there was hardly any room in what was essentially a storage closet. But just outside this dingy room filled with lamps and tables, I could see the lights from the hallway gleaming through the underside of the door. The shrieks, the fur suit paws occasionally jogging by. It was a night in hell having to listen to the moans and laughs. At one point, I looked out the peep hole of the door to see a 50-60 year old man, just walking casually down the hallway with a leather Jockstrap on eating a donut. . . I will never forget that night. The next morning the hotel staff had to dispose of the sheets from 47 different rooms.
Wht a nightmare X(
Sorry, you have to endure That
@Cukli ' 🤔
Hope you're in a better situation now!
I hope this shit doesn't haunt your memories bro
That guy snitching to save those hotels immediately after throwing diapers everwhere basically had the ultimate redemption arc.
this is an incredible take. more likely is that they did shit like that with the intention of sabotaging the con from the start
@@jac4026 Plot twist: He was the one who also cut the pipe in the bathrooms, did the drug deals, threw all the towels in the pool, and broke the pump
it's more likely it was sabotage.
The implication is it was a former organizer who was cast out for their behaviour and decided to tank the con since they couldn't be a part of it anymore.
@@DarthquackiusI always thought it was people that hated furries and wanted to ruin both the convention and their reputation. They succeeded.
@@jac4026 If it was just the diapers, that would have been a fairly minor thing and unlikely to get them banned forever.
Its so funny seeing people surprised at this... i had to watch this go down live on social media when it happened and trust me, internet historian gave u guys the clean version
tell me more!
Give me the dirty version daddy
I need the full story
Tell or give 🆘
I'm assuming it involves every sort of sexual depravity imaginable?
Imagine being a normal guest there not knowing what furries were/are and just seeing the entire Hotel get sent straight to the Shadow Realm
Just look at the old people that stay at the hotel,they just confused why tf there was people in animal suit and throwing diaper everywhere
@@NetralFN Nah, the old people were probably furries too
@@thatonebonkchoyguy those old people in the hotel is just a normal guest
@@TankMasterGo It was a joke
this is a great horror game concept.
Im going to make this into a game
Good job agent 47, you succesfully destroyed the convention. Now find a way out of there
Imagine Agent 47 having to dress as a furry for a disguise.
Big Chungus He would fucking suicide
@@besnick dont forget the flamingo costume
what agent 47
@@omarpikm2101 Hit..man..
I'm glad IH covers the stuff he wants too. But, I miss when he did stuff like this...
Stuff like these don't happen frequently nowadays.
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 he doesn't always cover stuff as it happens. That's why he was the internet historian. I'd watch this kind of video about any old atuff
i love how the clip of the ambulance is a vet ambulance
Just noticed that lmao
ikr i laughed so hard when i noticed lol
Well they're animals being an actual animal
el video fue ase 3 años
@@candy547 we dont understand you
Imagine that you and your wife or girl friend are just trying to go on vacation and the next day there’s a ton of drunk furries in the hall way
... honey, get the shotgun. Hunting season has just come early.
Dear I've got an urging for a purging.
imagine not reading this comment just to not imagine all this.this is HELL.
TVv 1 just knows them the fuck out
If the hotel doesn't tell you that a convention is happening during your stay, thats on them.
I love how this video is 2 years old and so many comments are still fresh. THATS how you know you made an entertaining video.
Yep
More likely the wonky youtube algorithm is at work here, but the video is still good.
Yeah i got one of his vids in my recommended list and now im here
Or, that people really, really, really hate Furries, a little too much, if you ask me. Especially, Furries, they hate Furries way too much!
The video itself is fucking great.
The insults are old and stale. The manufacturers haven't updated their whole supply chain and factories since the early 2000s. I'm honestly disappointed.
"And from that day forward, anytime a bunch of animals are together in one place IT'S CALLED A ZOO!"
-Soldier from TF2
R.I.P.
Soldier tf2 is not dying he is going to live forever
Unless it’s a farm!
It's been almost 3 years, but I just now noticed that at 3:14 that is a vet ambulance
JoyFerret holy shit your right
JoyFerret what a furry
Should have called animal control instead...
@@ceral1871 someone who cosplays as a animal that they love
Holy-
The scariest part is that they're all grown ass adults.
Manchildren.
Old enough to vote on political matters but still wearing diapers...
Would be worse if they were children
They are worse than cavemen because it's premeditated.
Physically? Yes. Emotionally and maturity wise? Not even close.
DashCon walked so that Fyre Festival could run, but none soared “higher” than Rainfurrest 2015.
Guess the shrooms will do that to ya
Dark Charizard and all the narcs
OwO
Internet Historian remarked that Dashcon was the worst con in his Q&A at his second channel though. The Q&A was done before Fyre festival was out, so Fyre might take the cake for the worst one by Internet Historian
@Etcetera yea, if there were categories that seems to sum it up
I rewatched this video plenty of times, and keep wondering, who thought placing serveres right under a bathroom was a good idea in the first place?
Someone who overinsured the crap out of that building.
I just realized that if a convention is presented as “Made by [blank] for [blank]” it has a 75% chance of getting destroyed
I had nothing to do with this convention.
@@_BLANK_BLANK people so accusatory nowadays
@@_BLANK_BLANK
You saw an opportunity for comedy and took it. You made me laugh.
DRAGONCON
Then it's only a matter of time until some furcon is burned to the ground and we gamers break out the buns n' weenies!
The oldest anarchy server in minecraft
welcome 2r2f
Ah, yes. Rainfurrest.
Oldest anarchy server in animal crossing
Toxic*
okay mr. fitmc
"I would never advocate violence against someone for being different, no matter how bizarre they may be."
*Finds a used adult diaper on the hood of my car*
"Except for that guy. Fuck that guy."
*insert black and white pictures of 40K Kriegsmen stolen off of deviantart*
If that were my car, I'm not sure I'd be capable of intelligent thought. Only a lot of excessive violence.
in a certain country (not gonna name it), there’s a couple having fun and throw a used condom on a car.. (was posted by the owner asking what kinda sins have he committed that someone would throw a used condom on his car)
This is the kind of thing that happens when people who were never invited to a party in high school or college get access to drugs and throw their own party
Moral: don’t do drugs
@@southernpennsyrailfan8579
Don't do drugs.
Reasons:
1. Causes degeneracy
2. See above
3. See above
4. See above
5. See above
6. See above
7. See above
8. See above
9. See above
10. See above
Moral: Invite people to parties, lest they turn out like this.
very true. cons are cliquey in a fantasy "heres what i think highschool was like for cool people" sense
I think sone of the intentional sabotage might have been some crazed radical ‘I hate fursuit nerds hurdur’ rather than convention goers.
Or maybe they really do be partying hard
God, just imagine the smell on this convention. I could just smell it just by looking at the screen.
Like shitty diapers?
Probably reeks of booze... That is not a fun smell to be around
Yeah... the paradise, okno :v
@Evilmike42 fuck you.
@@dystopiandownfall9188 stfu furry
I love how the ambulance you showed was an animal ambulance.
Amilance
Lol
All those arrests and no one was caught having sexual relations with dogs?
HERESY! Not real furries!
we had to pull security for one of these events last april, we kept running the ID’s through the sexual assault registry and it came out to like 30% were on there.
That's beyond terrifying
what a suprise, degenerates turn out to be degenerates🤯
a furry one ?
@@AmicusAdastra Most likely. Fur Cons are really bad about getting rid of predators both of children and actual animals in general. A lot of the predators are often buddies with con chairs and the like. So they can slip in more easily.
@@AmicusAdastra yes.
People saying they hate furries because of this; the ironic thing is people hated furries long before this happened
This was like adding a stick of dynamite on an already very large tower fire
It’s like pouring gasoline on a bonfire...
If you think this is peak furry degeneracy then you don't know about the telegram leaks lol
Ryan M. I feel bad for the furries that are genuinely nice people but get a bad rep because some people don’t know how to act in public.
@@jackieohecc dude I watched the documentary on it. With Kiro, Snakething and that zoosadist in Cuba. It was intense. Good to see that some justice was given out, but it looks like several got away.
Suicune The Monarch Of Pure Water naw, it’s more like a sweet addition of napalm on a already huge forest fire
So do they call the vet or the ambulance?
For us? They use the ambulances to take us to the vet. Cones suck.
Sukki Blue lets be honest, nobody is calling anybody. Someone has to give a shit to pick up and call an ambulance.
Frank Feliz Unlike you guys, furries care about other Furries. We’re a community, not a society.
Sukki Blue yeah you tell yourself that, as you rip each other apart with your actions. Didn’t you compare people’s belief in Islam to this fetish subculture? I mean that’s some quality corn fed ignorance right there.
Frank Feliz >:((((((
Oh please almighty Internet Historian, do TanaCon. That would've been an amazing documentary to watch.
And fouseycon!!!
that pfp is from bosh's coco video
shake my hand
SAYYYYY N-
@@earbleedmaster1457 I
Wasn't it just a very, very cramped con that had to be blown off because tana was too much of a greedy bitch to pay for a proper venue?
5:45 Oh, it pisses you off? How pissed off do you think the hotel staff and police were, having to manage your lunatic con-goers?
6:37 Just imagine the sheer terror of being a staff member of the hotel and watching a furry running full speed at you, while having flashbacks of what originally happened two years before.
Nice pfp.
WHAT IS THAT PFP
sauce for that pfp maybe?? ;00
sauce pls
I agree. You are hoarding art and by extension holding the human race back. I cannot believe that one person can be so selfish and so crass as to hold this back.
This is what happens when all the kids who were never invited to parties get together and throw their own.
Lol 😂
true
No us rejects behave better than this...
@@enterusername4650 yeah these people are fucking weird
XD stuff like this is why they were never invited to parties lol
The other guests at the hotel : its time for thomas to leave, he had seen everything
I feel bad for them .. this is the worst day enjoying in a hotel
It was horrifying
Thomas has never seen such bullshit before.
@@CarlsCozyCorner and litteral shit (pool/diapers)
Redditor
i work in a primary school and all this is literally what the least behaved 6 year olds do when they feel no one is watching them. it is unbelievable how some people have not grown up even a bit from that age.
After hearing what they did, I'm not sure if that's actually people under those furry costumes.
StageCraftBeast furries are not people
The omnissiah - these people are degenerates umong us degenerates lol
The omnissiah - It’s a great honor to see you there with such good discourse.
Hail Omnissiah, the god in the machine, source of all knowledge.
I work at a hotel and I can tell you - costume or not, most people are goddamn animals when they're on trips
@@Serook_Arzzal So Say the Technophillia's. How many cyberdongs did you attach on your ascension to Magus?
Imagine being an average plumber and then called to fix a broken water pipe at a convention and there's just a bunch of people in furry suits in the main lobby.
And wearing diapers.
Im leaving then
"Fuck, that beers early really did a job on me"
I wouldn’t walk in in fear of being murdered 😂
Better come back with a flamethrower
I got a cancer ad on every ad slot I think it's a symbol
They advertise cancer now?
I probably got cancer from this vid
Yes, UA-cam thinks that furry haters will be interested in TikTok, which is not far from true.
Wow that's perfect... Take that as a sign and
R U N XD
@@CRITICALHITRU I don't really care for tiktok and yes tiktok is cancer also how would furries haters be interested in tiktok
the way the staff speaks to them like a middle school principal gives an example of your average furcon goer
“No other hotel in the area would have wanted to host us”
*good*
That is the exact thing I said
Agreed
Yeah, Rainfurrest had a bad reputation pretty fast.
Like what kind of grown adult or teen WOULD WEAR A DIAPER AND SHIT ON IT JESUS CHRIST MAN
Servet Soylu you must also take into fact that it was public... who goes and PUBLICLY wears a diaper and shits in it
Vietnam part two: RainFurrest.
*THEY'RE IN THE TREES*
*Gets defeated by communist furries with AKs*
“Why are the trees smoking?”
" Alpha bravo Delta Tango! Let's rock and roll boys, rock and roll!"
* meanwhile up above, a squadron of B-52 bombers filled to the brim with Napalm bombs Flew Over the drop site as they dropped their humongous load of death upon the oblivious furries in the trees*
Get napalm
THEY ARE THE TREES
"reasons for termination"
"Degeneracy"
Well played Hilton, well played
“Well, they got us dead to rights”
Absolute gamer
@No YeLLInG On THE BuS ...you honestly believe out of all the things that happened, people wearing fursuits was the most degenerate thing to happen at Rainfurrest?
@@Mr.Bimgus Nah People WEARING Fur suits doing degenerate things is the most degenerate thing to happen at rainfurrest.
@@Mr.Bimgus unironically yes. They deserve the gas chamber
I love the somber music in the beginning, it’s like you’re making a video about some kind of tragedy. In a way you were, because this was like witnessing a bloody trainwreck.
Its not a tragedy the tragedy here is there birth
I like how other furies were complaining on twitter about the diaper thing. When a community is so welcoming that it causes weird people to be allowed in the fandom, it tends to cause internal conflicts within a fandom and bring down its reputation and sometimes make it split into different groups . This applies to a lot of other fandoms and groups.
Furries are about as divided of a "community" as they come
@@89Draco you're not wrong
@@89Draco sometimes i wonder if furry's even count as a community anymore.
@@TheUnknownDerg it's alright we all go on rambles once in a while.
though might wanna separate somethings into separate paragraphs cause fuck is it hard to read blocks of text.
>Causes weird people to be allowed in the fandom.
Yes, the last thing a fandom about pretending to be strange, talking, cartoon-like, animal people needs is to attract weird people. Also, you say weird people get into the fandom, causing conflicts and separating it into different groups, yet you suggest banishing people, separating the "weird" ones into what could be considered groups of people. Maybe the whole idea of being into animals and alt-personalities is abnormal, and attracts people who aren't normal. Just a thought.
Your videos are well organized and researched, your visuals are entertaining and well made, and you have a voice like silk. I commend your quality content sir.
Satyr Kuality Khantent
lmfao well researched? so assuming that the ENTIRE fandom is like this MINORITY GROUP is well researched?
oh wait of course you do your the typical ignorant cnn loving fuckboy so of course youll fall for shit like this :P theres a reason these people were kicked out of NORMAL conventions HOWEVER this convention was NOT a valid nor a SUPPORTED con by the fandom this was made by all the ass holes and sickos that were kicked out so they could have a con of there own and probably attempt to destroy the furry rep cause they are ass hurt that they got kicked out of the fandom lol
nightshadow lol furrys trying to justify what idiots...
lmao this nightshadow guy got mad over an actual good video
Honestly I am a furfag but this video was damn worth the watch. Also ignore nightshadow the name is proof he's an edgelord and the comment proves he's an idiot.
Here's how you circumvent such a thing: Have the attendees sign a property damages agreement. If they cause damage to the venue, they are legally and financially responsible. If they can afford their fursuits, they can afford damages.
You'd have to prove who actually did the damage. People probably run away after damaging something.
@@godmagnus If I was hosting a con, I would have cameras outside of the delicate areas. The water pump at the pool, outside of the bathroom(In the hallway, not the stalls).
If somebody loosened the bolts, we would know who came in first and last and be able to identify them by their suit. If they ditch the suit, we can send it to the police to look for DNA. Nobody would be able to get close to the water pump without being seen for certain, so that would be covered too.
The hotboxing is probably the easiest. Residents of the room can be identified and dealt with without cameras up their asses.
Remember, it's not an invasion of privacy if they're destroying my private property.
Dolphinboi this is smart honestly. I applaud u and every con needs stuff like this. Sometimes u have to spend some money to more in the long run.
@@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 I don't think DNA will help much given that it can take years to process a rape kit, which would have a higher priority than vandalism, hopefully. Also, without a suspect and a warrant, they can only hope to get a hit in a database when they finally do get around to processing it.
@@ManaDrain315 people still somehow get rape kits?
I can't even begin to imagine the smell of that room.
The problem with RainFurrest was that they had all the requisite policies for proper behavior, but refused to enforce them. The top staff liked to brag that they had never kicked anyone out of the convention. And they refused to break that record, even when they really ought to have. They were like those people who want to be the cool parents, and so let their kids do whatever they like. That sort of total lack of discipline inevitably leads to disaster.
Don't mourn RainFurrest. They thoroughly deserved their fate.
Can I keep this comment lol (not gonna repost)
@@seantaggart7382 we're operating under the radar now. Expect unfrequent raids on select furry servers :)
@@seantaggart7382 humans are great at exterminating animals actually.
@@seantaggart7382 -You talk too much- You've RPed too much
@@seantaggart7382 cringe
The old people in the hotel be like "we went to war for this?"
yes actually, you or me may not like it but its still their freedom to do it.
@@commandernomad2817 r/whoosh
@@commandernomad2817 Their freedom to ruin an entire hotel and assault people, for the sake of fun
*seems legit*
@@jackcall28 r/ihavereddit
@@harrisonho3834 Well, I don't, but the whoosh thing is so frequently used that I have to Google it.
I feel bad for everyone who booked a family vacation in Washington and then when you get to your hotel you see a bunch of furrys running around wearing diapers and pooping in the pool, and then went to the desk asking for refunds only to be told about the 24 hour cancellation policy
Thanos I live in Spokane and I’m so glad we never saw them.
Thanos, you've changed.
Your telling me, I live close to Seattle and thought to have a trip to spokane that day, boy was I wrong
I’d grab a gun and begin the hunt
UA-camd Yeet remember, no furry
Hi, I was there. I witnessed some of the absolute horror it was. I tried to warn them at their complaint panel at the end of con.
They said " if it gets us attention, we don't see a need to do anything to change it."
I was dumbstruck.
I was the person who stood on the table to clear the main hall for the paramedics so they could reach the kid ODing on shrooms who'd tried to drown himself in the pool.
After I had managed to direct traffic to clear the room. I was holding the door to redirect traffic till the paramedics had finished. I overheard people saying " oh this is a major incident, this means ppl are going to recognize rainfurrest as a major con now."
I immediately asked wtf they were talking about and it was explained that every major convention became considered that after the con had a serious major incident where someone got hurt or arrested.
I had never heard this before, but a lot of ppl agreed so it seemed that is was a commonly known thing.
So I replied and said " that is a terrible thing to aim as the reason for anything to be considered major. I wouldn't want this horrible thing to be what our convention becomes known for... that's going to give furries bad reputation. We struggle with this enough as it is. This convention is supposed to be clean all around fun. "
And everyone was just quiet after that some made sounds of agreement and seemed to pause in reflection.
After this. I heard this same rumor several times throughout the rest of the entire con. I would stop and tell whoever I heard saying this the same thing. At one one of them said I had a good point and I should bring it up at the hiss and scratch at the end of the convention.
I didn't even know they had a complaints panel, but I literally stayed for the rest of the entire convention (which had been an absolute fking literal shit filled nightmare) just to go to this fking panel and bring up my concerns about everything that I had heard and personally witnessed myself.
Which was a lot.
There were a lot of fked up things a lot of the con attendees aren't aware of that actually happened.
Or heard inaccurate rumors of the incident.
I know the truth however cus I actually saw what happened or talked directly to the person that had been a part of the incident and got the story directly.
I was very passionate about rainfurrest, it had been my favorite convention. I used to do Anime cons, but after I went to RF the first time, I stopped all other cons entirely. I had some of the best times of my life at this con. I felt the most at home with the furry community. I felt like I genuinely could just openly be myself, and rainfurrest was my local furry convention.
I re-shaped my entire artistic direction and career off furries becuase of this con.
So ofc I was highly sensitive to anything that was going to put a stain on it.
However after I got that responce from having brought these things to their attention and that I had feared the conventions reputation with the Hilton, and feared that we might not be able to keep the con here if these things kept happening..
And their responce was to shrug and go "so?"
The arrogance and entitlement of the con hosts was quite honestly appalling.
After that I heard the convention was shut down and it was so bad that someone had written a letter to ever venue in the state to warn them and there was literally no place that would take them.
That sucked for the furry attendees in WA, but served those con hosts right. I told them... I fkin told them...Their ignorance destroyed my favorite con.
Shame these were the reasons rainfurrest became a major con... a major example of a majorly bad con.
I hate to say I told you so, cus it's never anything good. And thats why I hate when I'm right, cus Unfortunately I have always been right...
I never heard on that kid that had been taken by the paramedics though. I hope he was okay.
The thing about the towels in the hot tub is incorrect, the reality is worse. First someone shit in the hot tub the day prior having it closed for the day while they did an entire water change. The next day when they reopened the hot tub, I assume the same person who had shit in it shit in an adult diaper and then shoved it into the hot tub filter, which clogged jammed and broke the motor. Having the hot tub permanently out of service for the rest of the convention.
Some of the vandalism had to do with some rooms that literally had shit smeared all over the walls like a Jackson Pollock painting.
I wish I was joking, however I saw it myself. There were some rooms that were open to the halls like an open room party, but instead you got hit with that horrid human fecal matter smell and discover.... yeah... it was not pretty.
And I heard from several others it wasn't the only room that had this happen. The halls smelling like Sh!t is not a joke.
The elevator had been broken far worse than mention in that statement. Ppl had broke buttons on the control panel and a large group had decided to jump on the elevator as it was ascending. Causing a lot of wear on the mechanism that pulled the elevator up. Which ultimately caused the elevator to take a really long time.
And being the only elevator to the main area of the convention center and suiters unable to take stairs. It was a long wait to get to the main part of the convention center.
Eventually they had to limit the amount on the elevator to about 3 ppl each trip and had a staff member on duty riding the elevator to work the elevator and monitor the activity.
Before that happened though, a few baby furs had decided to all togeather wait for the elevator to fill up and doors to close before all taking a crap in their diapers. And with the elevator taking like 10-15 mins a trip.. you can imagine what this was like for the other attendees who were trapped in there with them.
I know this happened because I saw someone come off the elevator crying and found out what happened first hand, as I had been waiting for someone else to make it upstairs.
Liar
@Mister_Domm really? How do you know I'm lying? Cus I most certainly recall being there and I remember this shit like it was yesterday.
I just only recently came across a report on this that led me to look it up. And knowing that they are still lying about it, acting like their willful ignorance had nothing to do with getting permabanned from every venue in the state pisses me right tf off. So I decided to try and set the record straight and reposting this to everyone who's made mention on it seemed the best way.
A couple drug related arrests and medical emergencies is not enough to get completely blacklisted state wide. This kind of shit happens at a lot of conventions. It happened at sakura-con too before they moved to Seattle, the same Hilton didn't ban them for that shit.
There's a reason the hotel staff wouldn't even acknowledge them when they went to try and discuss terms after the con was over.
I was a volunteer several times before, this year I had Been a spotter for a fursuiter named Meep. That's who I'd been waiting for upstairs when the girl came running off the elevator crying, and I asked someone wtf happened, then led them to report this to con staff.
Real shit.
I got photos on my Google and Dropbox I'd taken from this convention too, to prove it.
I go by jakthedrox, I have photos of the hand drawn commissions I did at RF that year as well.
Tojo-the-theif and I were also supposed to have a "how to draw your dragon." Panel on Sunday. Me and Tojo had been working together on this since after the con the previous year and were super excited. But they also screwed us on this last second, moving our panel to early Friday and didn't ask or inform either one of us.
It was over by the time I even got registered, and Tojo wasn't even arriving till sat... when I went and confronted them on this mistake. They just shrugged "whelp" and did nothing to fix it or compensate us for all the time and costs that went into preparation.
Not only did they not apologize, but acted like it was our fault we hadn't known they'd suddenly changed the day and time of our panel.
Tojo was so heartbroken. She didn't even come.
Real fked up thing to do to your local VIP Artist guest of honor, if you ask me. Tojo-the-theif was one of Bad-Dragon's toy cover artists, and super famous.
So tell me again, how do you know I'm a liar?
Honestly, making a blanket statement with no evidence attempting to discredit me sounds like you're one of them, or one of their supporters who knows what I'm saying is actualy true, and trying to cover it up.
Holy moly, bro knows how to yap
@dough3 yeah. Cus I actually use my brain, and have shit to say.
I prefer not to be an advocate of ignorant, juvenile, lazy, and illiterate ideals.
@@The_Jakkal You mean illiterate
“It’s called crinkling.” I’m hoping for a nuclear annihilation after hearing that.
It's called "wearing poo" I'm pretty sure.
🤣
Agree
One of the furry tweets shown in the video said it should stay in the rooms. I say it shouldn't be allowed anywhere.
Me too
I think it’s hilarious that they had an Anti-Furry among their ranks.
Almost feels like a well planned false flag by the /b/ guys. If so, brilliantly done.
It's just an anti-furry sleeper agent assigned to stop the coming furpocalypse by any means necessary. Godspeed to that brave soul.
That brave individual deserves a medal for their community service.
it was an infiltrated scaly, actually
@@bernardoheusi6146 lmfao
A bored billionaire needs to buy a convention center or hotel, install cameras everywhere, then offer to host Dashcon and Rainfurrest there, at the same time, and not tell the conventions about each other. With the camera footage being recorded and live-streamed
Sounds hella illegal but hilarious at the same time
@@DarkMagicz4Blood these aren’t should be called human beings tbh
@@sam2k112 That's true, they're animals, animals can't talk, just say its for a Research study on a mental study.
YES CHAOS
There are better ways to waste money.
6 years later and I still come back to rewatch this classic
This is gonna fuck up my recommendations...
How’s your recommendations
@@t-man_meathead6691 probably fucked up
Indeed
Yeah
I hope it fucks with mine, I'm bored as shit