Kobe Bryant is not the second greatest player in NBA history, A.I.
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Kobe went to three straight finals after Shaq left, he lost to Boston in 08, beat Orlando in 09, and got his revenge on Boston in 2010. Kobe three year run to the finals is undervalued and taken for granted.
Kobe won 5 chips but only led his team to two of those. Shaq was the finals mvp 3 straight years while Kobe rode shotgun!
No you just over rating it, his team was incredible, Phil Jackson triangle worked AGAIN.
@@kron277might wanna look at the 3rd title run
@@kron277that is factually incorrect...Kobe dominated the playoffs in runs 2 and 3...Shaq dominated the Finals...
He went after they got gasol odom then ron and he didn't win right after Shaq left they were losing and he was trying to go to Chicago tell tell the whole truth
Allen Iverson played against Prime Jordan, Prime Kobe and Prime Lebron. His opinion trumps any sports commentator's, especially those who'd never played in the NBA. And at the end of the day, its Iverson's opinion. He does not have to bow down to the ESPN force-fed narrative.
AI’s last season was 2010 🤔
@@iriginality LeBron won MVP that season
@@CCEkeke I mean he won it 4 times. But his absolute prime year was 2012 (even though I say 2016 & 2018) could rival those. 2012 his game was on another level, peak everything. Even Doc & KG said that was the year he started to call out their plays & they knew they were in trouble.
@@iriginalityLebron was already a 1st ballot HOF and arguably top 10 all time by 2010, the only knock on his game was he wasn’t “clutch” at the time and couldn’t seal the deal in finals or ECF. Everyone knew the guy was a GOAT back then tho
@iriginality doesn't matter if he played last in 2010 the point is he played against all 3
So Kobe is punished for playing with Shaq, but Lebron isn't penalized for hopping teams, stacking the deck wherever he goes, orchestrating over 70 trades, and playing with the likes of Bosh, Wade, Kyrie, Love, Ray Allen, Westbrook, Melo, Shaq, Dwight, and AD? Make it make sense.
THANK YOU not to mention has lost more than he won 6 losses on his resume.
None of them are Shaq so the argument isn’t valid.
Imagine if Lebron played with a prime Shaq?
Facts
Bro stop it they both came straight out of hs lebron was Lebron from day 1 Kobe needed time and he had prime shaq
@@devvyzukoIf Lebron had Del Harris as a coach in 1996 he would’ve had restricted minutes too
People keep forgetting that Kobe Bryant had a TAINTED IMAGE. The league couldn’t market Kobe but if we being honest he was the best from 03-10
03-13
You know some my boy
That should be the top comment here. The league has had an agenda against Kobe since the incident in Colorado. If it wasn’t for that, everybody would embrace him in his rightful spot as the 2nd greatest
May have been the best from 01-13
2002-2013 he was the best player on the planet 🌎
The fact that most players, past and present would pick Kobe over Lebron speaks volume.
That’s because Bron is still playing, so when they view Lebron they see Lakers Lebron. They’re not thinking about him in his Prime. Sadly people won’t give Lebron more credit until he retires and have been away for awhile.
@@epiclegacy9 they were already saying this even before Kobe retired tho. We’re talking about players that played against both in their prime, the majority choose Kobe over Lebron. Once Lebron retires, most likely the younger generation is gonna pick him over Kobe of course.
i had to go look this up to confirm…they still chose Bron.🗣️overwhelming actually.
@@ROM0628 ur name has kobe so u a dick rider. But there people who played with mj and have lebron number 1 so ur point
@@epiclegacy9it’s because Kobe is better at everything except passing
Wtf! This man is with his ancestors! You can't kill or try to diminish Kobe's legacy and what he contributed to the league for 20yrs. Just stop it and let this man Rest in Peace!
This Kobe blasphemy is outrageous‼️🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
All u media heads give Kobe his damn respect
Shit up, he tellin it like it is
@@tkbaku3036put ur lebron Pom poms down
Kobe 44% FG , 1 mvp and only 2 FMVP! Oh and he rode the bench as a rookie smh fanboy are delusional
@@terrencealexander6811He made a all star starting lineup before the Lakers starting lineup because Del Harris wouldn’t budge 😂 And I forgot that the finals were the only series you had to win for the chip and not 3 others to get there. Check the playoff stats before talking stat sheet watcher 🤣🤦♂️
@@b2bclutchyuh887 All star selections are based on votes it’s about popularity, Kobe was getting votes from his appearance on the tv show “Moesha”! And yes Chips are team accomplishment. Stats are objective that’s why I know them but I love watching basketball since 1988 to today!
Under LeBron ERA:
- All-star game rule change
- Play-in Tournament
- In-season Tournament
- 6 Finals losses
- 2 Finals Sweeps
- Team hopped 3 times
- Played with 8 all-stars
- Gave up 6 times in the playoffs
- Called league office 3 times for foul calls
I mean, how much more help does LeBron really need? How is this guy top 5, let alone top 2? Kobe is definitely ahead of LeBron in any rankings.
Thank you!
U forgot all time turnover leader
and in his era. There is the 2015-2018 Warriors. 2013 -2017 Spurs.
In his era, the warriors get KD just to beat him and his team. Before that, LeBron almost beat thr warriors in 2015 by him alone. No kyrie and no kevin love.
2017-2018 Lebron almost beat everybody except the warriors.
All time greatest scorer. Top 10 in Rebounds and Assist. Top 20 in steals.
@@fabogold8673 ikr! Lebron can't handle the heat during real crunch moments. All them turnovers from a guy that supposedly has "a high basketball IQ." I'm saying this as a Laker fan, who has seen a super self absorbed player in Lebron make some of the stupidest TO's that I have ever seen from a player of this "caliber." SMH
@@joshuatorio2102 school him !!
Stephen A. Brings up the fact Kobe’s first 3 rings were with prime Shaq but Lebrons first two rings came with Wade & Bosh. Wade had to tell LeBron in their second season together that it was his team and he needed to lead. No one ever needed to tell Kobe they needed him to take the lead. Kobe knew exactly what & who he was from the moment he entered the NBA even when they weren’t giving him playing time on the court because of the politics back then of a young player being able to come in from high school and take over.
Every stars rings comes with great teammates mj/pip/rodman, KG/Paul,Ray Curry/KD/Klay etc! Nobody wins it solo!
Lebron was the finals MVP. Kobe was robin three straight times. There's no comparison.
Lebron's rings came of superteams. 1st two meant destroying 2 playoff teams, that's the Cavs and Raptors. These fools like SAS don't know what they're talking about.
Prime Shaq> Wade & Bosh
Wade even admitted that they formed that superteam cause Kobe was so dominant during that time. Kobe played the cards he was dealt and grinded. Lebron has been stacking the deck in his favor ever since he went to Miami. No player in any sport has that amount of power in choosing teammates and to only win 4 championships with that type of leeway is absurd. Yet Kobe gets crucified for playing with Shaq. We never hear Magic get punished for having Kareem or Bird for having McHale, or Lebron having Wade/Kevin love/bosh/Allen/AD.
Kobe is #2..All dayyyyy! #RIPMAMBA
U delulu
Nope you is kobe #2 @tkbaku3036
@@tkbaku3036 who??
@@tkbaku3036nah u are young boy
I second that 🙋
Im startin to think its a hidden agenda to erase Kobe from history
I think so too !!!!!
he work too hard and gave to much into da game to be disrespected like this
I think it’s a hidden agenda to overhype Kobe as a top 3 player. AI literally said a year ago on his podcast that Bron was the goat and now he changes his mind? Here’s the link to the clip btw ua-cam.com/users/shortsD9p8wvORSaI?si=0N8rPAs4No0VmboL
@@Max-ys3xg 🤦🏾♂️
Erase? Put on his place I’d say
Kobe is #2 in my eyes, Lebron couldnt take the Killer Bs to back to back championships
That hypocrisy from him is insane. We gon ignore that lebron won his 2 first rings with D wade who was top 5 player in 2011. Please give the Mamba his respect. Most of the players who played against both. Almost pick kobe over lebron.
Why do you lads only focus on lebron all the time? Why not focus on the garbage he said about Kobe vs magic? Kobe is obviously ahead of magic and yet this imbecile says that’s debatable
Dude even with super teams is a loser 2011 choke like no tomorrow
DWade is likely considered the 3rd best shooting guard of all time. Ray Allen was considered the best shooter of all time before Curry but that's okay to the klutch talking heads... LeBron did it all on his own
@@iTuber012ray Allen was at the end of his career wade wasn't anywhere near his 06 as his knees were ripped apart by many surgeries the only one u can say would be bosh since I don't think he had any issues with blood clots till lebron left
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Crazy how he says Kobe had shaq for 3 rings but doesn’t mention how magic had the number one scorer of all time kareem for all 5 of his rings. All that Kobe hate is all because that Colorado case with a white woman. But Nobody wants to say it
Lebron fans attack kareem and kobes legacies because they are objectively greater when It comes to WINNING.
Tim Duncan isn't safe from shitty lebron fans either.
Kobe top 5 definitely but my personal opinion he is number 2 on my list period
Facts bro
Most NBA players say differently from yall media folks. That should tell you something!
No they don’t the legends say LeBron is the greatest
@@johnjovanovichwick4194 I'm not arguing who is at what ranking. I'm talking about how they rank kobe overall, the media. Most players have kobe ranked at least top 5.
@@magnifyvideoco as far as not being fair to Kobe is that what you saying? If so I do get it
@@johnjovanovichwick4194u sound dumb af.
What is it a popularity contest? Y'all running out of arguments now. Lebron clears Kobe easily.
Shit sad I will never respect Stephen A smith again
Hold on, Shaq wouldn't have gotten his 3 rings if he didn't have Kobe
MAJOR FACTS
Kobe also bailed them out after Shaq fouled out against Indiana....also LeBron had Wade & Chris...come on dude
Hell no Kobe averaged 15 in the first Championship he was a co start but that was shaqs team that’s why he has 3 finals mvps
@@darrelljones3965 who did LeBron have?
@@darrelljones3965Kobe got injured in that series goofball, missed that game and the next. Ofc something like that is going to effect numbers
What I don’t understand is why Kobe gets shit for winning 3 with Shaq, when Magic had Kareem for all his rings? Kobe still won 2 without a top 75 player. Not tryna argue, but just tryna understand why things like that get overlooked when discrediting Kobe
Kobe road the bench his first year with Shaq. Let's not forget he got saved from choking by the refs in game 7 against the celts.
I don’t understand it myself it’s asinine
And don’t forget, not only did magic have Kareem for all five but the last three he had James worthy for James worthy has a finals MVP on one of magics. They want to bury Kobe so bad, because they wanted to make the argument that LeBron is the goat, but they can’t have the Jordan versus LeBron debate, if Kobe is in the way. This is how disgusting these people are. Kobe isn’t even here to defend themselves and they are just pissing all over his legacy. I expect that from Beta males like Nick Wright but Stephen a Smith was there for Kobe Bryant. That was his friend. Stephen Smith is too smart he knows LeBron has had more help and less competition than anybody and I thought he had enough money that he didn’t need clutch sports but maybe I was wrong.
@bdr113080 magic was an original while kobe was a generic lesser version of jordan.
@@Michael-tc1dm yup, no one copied MJ like Kobe did, thats true. But no one has done it as successfully either. And a “generic” version of MJ is hardly a bad thing lol
the disrespect for Kobe is insane
It is not Disrespect to have Kobe not top 3
It’s just that simple hes arguably top 5 but the take that Lebron is inferior is just flat out wrong
Kobe #2 Greatest Basketball in NBA history!!!
he better than mj
i genuinely think if you take kobe’s career in context he’s really the greatest ever.
when you consider his era the teams the coaching the style of play the defense (zone) worst shooting era of all time
when you consider off the court too when you consider work ethic obsessiveness
no way he’s not the greatest
kobe’s run in the playoffs from 08-10 is the toughest of any all time great.
@@danielolugbemii genuinely think you meat riders don’t know shit about basketball…
@@mr.jingles9362sorry but no
HE AND THE ANSWER OVER MJ OR LEBRON!!!
Stephen A wouldn’t have said this to Kobe’s face when he was alive
Yes he would’ve.
Let's be honest. He would have.
It's clear you have no idea how bold Stephen A. Smith is🤣🤣
@@FreeAgent797no he wouldn’t have and didn’t
@@jareljones3911I’ve never heard him list Kobe at 2 when he was alive mate. I’m just being honest
People need to rewatch the three peat including the playoffs to see just how crucial Kobe was during that 3 peat..
Those games were nail biters and Shaq was in witness protection due to his atrocious free throws. Kobe won those series that got them to the finals. He was the relentless engine start to finish.
It's just funny how many people consider MJ the GOAT but then fault Kobe for being a carbon copy of the "GOAT" but for some reason it ends up being a knock against him not being the 2nd or even 3rd best player. It's criminal to have him outside the top 5 of all time
I hate the trend of people putting him at like #8 and other clueless people agreeing just to “sound smart”… the late legend deserves so much more respect man
Man so quick to point out first three were with Shaq but no mention how Lebrons first two were with a Superteam (and still lost two finals embarrassingly). Cavs title was another superteam attempt he jumped to after Miami aged. Then he runs to the Lakers and immediately starts planning a trade for AD, gathers high quality role players and won a bubble chip. It’s not that we want to put Kobe as #2, it’s that we refuse to put him behind Lebron. I can accept Kareem, Magic, hell even Duncan has a case to be in top 5
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At the same time he’s saying Shaq is a different situation, he was the best player in the league at the time of the lakers 3 peat, Kobe was the robin to his Batman. That was never the case with lebron and Dwayne wade and bosh aren’t two of the top 10 players of all time. Not the same comparison Stephen a is right . Lebron is definitely ahead of Kobe he is always the “shaq” of his teams 4 finals mvp 4 rings add it up!
wait a minute, lebron had shaq, didn't he?😂 kobe won with shaq, dwade won with shaq so how come lebronze can't win with shaq? lebron was winning bronzes before kobe arrived in Redeem team
Dude is being paid by teh lebron agenda nobody in mbs history has had so many all star players like lebron and even like that lebron choke in 2011 finals
@@brandoncooper439 thing is there is no 3 peat without Kobe. Yeah Shaq dominated the finals but Kobe did work in the West series as well, where the real competition was. Can’t take away the three peat he contributed significantly to as a young player. Even Stephen A often says Lebron had to join Wade to learn how to win. What you’re ignoring is that the Heat were heavy favorites to win titles because nobody in the league could match up talent wise. Dwayne was top 5 in the league at the time, Bosh was one of the best bigs in the game. It’s a fair comparison. Fact is while being the overwhelming favorites, the Heat lost two finals and barely beat the Spurs in 2013. Nobody ever brings up how all of Lebrons championships were won by jumping from team to team and immediately acquiring all star talent. Even with the Lakers he attempted more superteams with Russ and was even begging Kawhi to join him. This dude is all time at running away from the grind.
Let's say he won two titles without Shaq and scored 81 pts in a game second to Wilt and footwork is second to Hakim and to quote all his peers killer instinct second to Jordan and never played on a super team and work ethic is unmatched c'mon man...carry on!
Kobe is #2 in my imo
I really don’t get the Magic vs Kobe. The same thing held against Kobe is completely ignored with Magic. He played with many peoples admission, a top 3 player ever, for basically his entire career. He was given 1 of his FMVPs because Kareem wasn’t at the arena during his rookie year. And had Kareem and Worthy won FMVP over him while playing together while Kobe had Shaq for 3 of his 5 titles.
Kobe’s the last player to make it 5 straight all nba and 5 straight all defense 1st team as well for 5 years in a row. Look it up
Kobe absolutely has an easy case in the top 5.
If we’re being real Kobe has the second best NBA performance ever based on the “game score” stat. Second only to MJ’s 69 point masterpiece against the Cavs. So only one player in history has proven to have a bigger one game impact than Kobe, everyone else is several levels below him.
Kobe also has the highest pace adjusted PPG in nba history, not even Wilt or Jordan were quite the explosive scorer Kobe was.
Kobe scored 81 points, the highest since wilt in 1962!!!! Arguably the greatest game ever played and inarguably a truly remarkable record.
Kobe’s 9 strait 40 point games is the highest since Jordan did the same thing in 1986!!!!
I don’t wanna type an essay, but Kobe beat more elite competition than anyone and at his peak was as good as anyone who’s played, besides MJ out of respect for the goat.
I’d probably put him 3rd. Out of every all time player, Kobe’s career is the most misunderstood and disrespected. There’s a reason most hold Kobe and Jordan in such high regard, objectively no one else in history had the impact they had, especially in dominating one game.
I don’t think anyone was really better at basketball than Kobe, besides Jordan due to extreme physical gifts (huge hands + ridiculous athleticism + supreme skill)
Nice story. Stats don't lie, kobe is top 7 or 8 at most. He was inefficient ( career 44% fg ) and made nobody better.
Not only do you gotta make a case for him over Bron but you gotta make a case for him over Kareem too. And what you just listed ain't really doin it. Donovan Mitchell had the third highest game score after Kobe and MJ lol.
@@cozyfades1587 That's your opinion. The NBA today is a joke in my opinion.
Anyone can drop 30-10-10, due to no defense, high pace, blatant travels and carries not being called, etc. It's just an absolute circus.
It seems like you looked up the game score stat, which is good, but what you must understand is that the stat doesn't take into account PACE OF PLAY. Kobe did it in the slowest era of all time. Once you adjust for pace of play Kobe blows even MJ out of the water, as the 2000's were the slowest era in NBA history. Mitchell had a great game, but once adjusted for pace its value takes a big hit.
I think he definitely has a case over Bron and Kareem, but If someone has Kareem two that's fine to me. But Kareem won one title before Magic got there, so people need to really do some research when discussing Kareem, greatest center of all time though imo.
The media has been brainwashing most fans for a very long time. I believe Kobe's career is misunderstood by 90% of fans, and they have been told for a long time that Kobe is "inefficient", or "got carried by Shaq". Sad but I'll educate those that need it.
Field goal percentage doesn’t equate to efficiency it’s accuracy that’s why they have the PER stat ..
Top 5 all time: LBJ,MJ, Magic, Kareem TD the Greatest at their positions! Kobe is in the top 10
This generation is all about participation trophy and social media influence. Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Bird etc are the true legends. LeBron? Please, don't even mention his overrated name anymore.
My problem with this is that there are a lot of factors and it’s honestly an unfair comparison to compare players who played at different times, even with overlap. Rules change, style of play changes, etc. The pace today is higher and players shoot more 3s. In ‘96 (when Kobe was drafted) coaches didn’t let rookies play much so out of the gate LeBron had an advantage on individual accomplishments. LeBron played with super teams once he went to Miami and in an easier conference. His greatest competition was Boston who only won once and Toronto who never made it to the Finals. Kobe played in a tough western conference and actually did well against the Spurs. Something no one else in this conversation can say. Kobe’s best teammate in his post Shaq career was Gasol. Gasol was a great player, but he wasn’t D Wade, AD, or Kyrie. Kobe has the most wins against 50 win teams in the playoffs - a record that should hold for a long time. When they actually guarded each other (not just playing in the same game) Kobe won those head to heads despite being smaller. I think the main difference between the two is that LeBron is a better floor raiser. He’ll get your team to go deep in the playoffs no matter what the roster is - almost guaranteed. Kobe though is the one who once your team is good enough to be a title contender is going to get a win more times than not. His 2 losses in the Finals were against the Celtics who also beat LeBron and the Pistons when he had a toxic locker room (feuds with Shaq and Karl Malone) and off the court distractions (rape trial). Which by the way, that rape trial is when the media turned on him. No player has 12 All NBA defensive awards while also having 30k points. I didn’t even get into adjusting numbers for pace or style of play (guys shoot more 3s now and also shoot them at higher percentages because they take more of them). At the end of the day, you had to watch them both play and there is no right answer, but Kobe belongs in the conversation despite what stats may say. Otherwise if you want to be so attached to stats without context then Wilt is the GOAT.
There is no " rule change", or " style change" that supercedes SELFISHNESS!!! How do you escape Steven A's comparison between Kobe/ Magic/ Shaq???
Magic FLOURISHES with Shaq....Kobe wanted him gone. Nuff said
I’m gonna take Gasol over AD personally. AD on his bad nights…I’ve never wanted to come through a TV screen more and backhand someone. When Phil Jackson was asked about the Jordan vs Kobe question, he said Jordan. The reason he said was Jordan had bigger hands 😮
I respectfully disagree with the Lebron superteam narrative. Especially since nobody considers the Boston team a superteam with Kg, Pierce and Rondo. But i will agree with you that its hard to compare players from different era's. That in itself makes this debate impossible to have. At the end of the day. This debate is strictly for entertainment. For those old enough to remember. The nba went into panic mode once Jordan retired the first time. That's when "who is the next Jordan" took off. That's when "There will never be another Jordan" commenced. However this is purely an emotional and subjective topic. No matter who is on ur list. No matter which side of the fence we are on. We all will cherry pick stats to confirm our convictions. At the end of the day. This debate is the greatest form of marketing i've every seen. This truly will stand the test of time!
@@PeterParker-wj3cr well said 👌!
@@phillipcotton833 If your ever at a boring event. Or if you want to start your very own youtube page and you need engagement. Just bring up the Jordan debate..lol
To say putting Kobe #2 is blasphemous, is even more blasphemous
Salute to Iverson,. I also have Jordan and Kobe over LeBron. The Kobe disrespect has to stop. Stephen A. dont try to diminish Kobe because he was with Shaq when Lebron formed a superteam in Miami
I would give Kobe more credit, for his two rings, with Pau Gasol, than I would LeBron, for his two titles with D-Wade, Ray Allen and Bosh. A lot of player can win rings with Wade and Bosh. Who was Pau winning anything with, before Kobe? Wade won a ring, with nobody but an over-the-hill Shaq.
Who was Tye Lue before Lebron? We can do this all day. He left Cleveland because they were a terrible franchise, the season he left they went from a 60 win team to a lottery team. Gasol and the refs also literally saved Kobe's legacy in the 10 finals. Stop this nonsense.
😀😀😀and Chris Bosh was winning what 😀😀😀if it’s so easy why all these other guys joining up can’t do it
Stop it. 🙄🙄Kobe also had Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, Derrick Fisher, Trevor Ariza and Andrew Bynum on the same squad with Pau Gasol... before Lamar and Andrew started having their issues.
With an Old Ray Allen and an inconsistent, Chris Bosh. Vs a Hall of Fame coach in Phil Jackson, Pau GAZOL, Lamar, Odom. Robert Horry, Derek Fisher. Andrew Bynum. Metta world peace. We know you don’t like LeBron and you’re just a casual.
@@mwebster3265😂😂😂 man Artest was on his way outta of the league, Bynum had one All Star year, Fisher was shit in Utah without Kobe, Ariza was a good fit but not a all star caliber player, and LO who I loved was just a good/talented player before playing with Kobe..not the same as Kyrie, Love, Bosh, Wade, Allen, and Anthonu Davis...5 of those guys are for sure HOFamers and Love is a possible cause of his numbers in Minnesota, the all star game, and the ring....so thos comment was stupid on its face lol
As dominant as Shaq was Phil Jackson didn’t have to ask Shaq to tone it down or they would lose Kobe. When he asked Kobe that Kobe was on a run of how many straight 40point games? Since he was in a lakers uniform there were people dimming his light, toning him down, trying to get the ball out his hand.
Every year we talk about “lebron needs more help” yet Kobe wanted Shaq gone and went to three straight finals, winning two and they act like Kobe being better than Lebron is so outlandish. The disrespect is real
It's not outlandish, it is the absolute truth. How many rings would LeBron have if he didn't superteam it up, maybe one. Kobe did the opposite of forming a superteam and still ended up with 5 rings. The best win titles, the rest compare their stats. I honestly don't credit LeBron with a single legitimate championship as things stand now. LBJ is closer to Charles Barkley and Karl Malone than he is to Mike or Kobe
So was superteams never formed before lebron?? Yall act like there’s never been big 3s before the Heat. There was a big 3 formed in Boston before lebron went to Miami.. Ray Allen, Pierce, KG…yall sound crazy in here. You got Bird, Parrish, mchale. Jordan pippen Rodman/horace grant. Magic, worthy, Kareem. Kobe, gasol, Odom/fisher. Nash, stoudemire, Marion. DR. J, Moses Malone, Barkley. Melo, AI, billups. Billups, Rip, Ben and Rasheed Wallace, tayshaun. Rudy Gay, Z-Bo, Marc gasol/mike Conley. Duncan, ginobili, TP/kawhi…
Please stop with the lebron big 3 narrative…it’s dumb and very redundant to the sport of basketball. Everybody has played with superstars…stop it!
@@DuhJuan honestly…I have no idea what you’re talking about. No said anything about super teams. I’m just saying how Kobe’s path was harder and yet these “analysts” wonder why so many have Kobe ahead of Lebron. That’s all
@@onemoremicnone of my messages was towards you. I replied to who I was responding to
@@JesseOmezibut to respond to your comment, Kobe isn’t ahead of Lebron at all. He’s had help as well. Whether it was shaq, fisher, horry (who saved them multiple times in the playoffs from eliminations) to gasol, Odom, artest (who saved him as well) and Fish. And he did not have it harder than lebron. Lebron was scrutinized since he was In HS, he had “great” expectations since he was 15-16 years old. He came in the league and took the last place Cavs to the finals in 4 years. Kobe came into a storied franchise and played with multiple superstars and a great coach. How did he have it harder than Bron?
Kobe Bryant was the second greatest behind Michael Jordan there is no doubting it everyone has said he is the closest thing to Jordan and Jordan was the greatest every NBA player that has played against him and LeBron knows Kobe was way better than LeBron
Lebron has a winning record against Kobe all time. Lol.
@@Ackshuallymmm we're talking about individual player LeBron is codependent needs others to win Kobe can dominate himself big difference two different levels LeBron just don't got it
@@neal99please list the individual statistical criteria you used to determine Kobe's better without listing free throws
@@Soultrain11he can’t unfortunately
@@Soultrain11 just the product Kobe displayed on the court was way more dominant people feared him more winning success than LeBron it's about coming out on top what's LeBron has failed to do with 15 different All-Stars just the fact you have a fundamental flaw can't shoot a free throw no go to move straight disqualified from any goat conversation with that swiss cheese game holes all up in it
Kobe is EASILY #2 behind MJ. The media only mentions Lebron because he is still alive and playing. They know this foolish debate draws anger and therefore lucrative.
Kobe has to be #2 because the media is trying SO hard to protect their chosen one😂Greatness doesn't have to be protected or shoved down anyone's throats. It just IS. The media rides lebron so HARD. And stephen acting like A.I.s the only professional to ever say this is hilarious
Plus, LBJ was at the weaker eastern conference and needed a super team to reach the NBA FINALS. Look at him now at the western conference, he’s struggling despite having AD with him. And even if LBJ reached the finals alot of times, he doesn’t have a winning record to show.
Stephen A. forgets sometimes that A.I. actually PLAYED against these guys?!???
Bro Kobe was literally locking mfs up 😅
He was once challenged by shannon that magic ddnt win without kareem and he responded "thats a stry for another day"
Jordan was the best player ever most had ever seen and Kobe mimicked all his moves🤙🏿skill wise Kobe is the 2nd best ever. The players who played against Kobe mj lebron all rank Kobe ahead of lebron way before Kobe died the lebron being even top 5 was all media manipulation 💯
Michael Jordan won his 5th NBA Championship at Age 34, Kobe Bryant won his 5th NBA Championship at Age 31, and LeBron James at Age 39 only has FOUR (4) NBA Championships, still chasing his 5th ring. Smh. And then at Age 35, Michael Jordan won his 6th (SIXTH) NBA Championship, at Age 35, Kobe Bryant still had 5 NBA Championships, and at Age 35, LeBron James had 3 NBA World Championships and 1 Orlando Disney Mickey Tricky Bubble Ring. Smh. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Care to mention Jordan took time off ??? No telling how many rings he could of had or if he could of gotten it sooner
And Bill Russell got 11 rings fighting for civil rights
@@cookiecrafthd5749or just 3
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@@swiiper_the_fox But Bill Russell won his 11 rings averaging only 15.1 ppg for his entire career….Michael Jordan won his 6 rings averaging 30.1 ppg for his entire career…..2X - Michael Jordan averaged 2 times the points that Bill Russell averaged. Michael Jordan is easily the GOAT of NBA Basketball. Also who averaged 30 points and 28 rebounds on Michael Jordan every time that they played Michael Jordan? I’ll wait. Oh, okay. Well, the late great Wilt Chamberlain averaged 30 points and 28 rebounds in his career matchups with the late great Bill Russell. Again, Michael Jordan is easily the GOAT of NBA Basketball.
Kobe’s first 3 rings were won alongside Shaq.
All 6 of MJ’s rings came with HOF’s Pippen and Phil Jackson.
So what are you saying bruh? That’s not an indictment on Kobe’s greatness. His playoff averages are legit and he accomplished a lot.
How dare he say if Lebron plays literally no defense no defense the Kobe Disrespect is trash
Kobe is ahead of Lebron in my book.
And u don’t have an argument 😂
In the majority of ppls books
@@johnjovanovichwick4194kobe most definitely better than LeBron 💯
It's just not true that Lebron is automatically #2. I still would pick Magic and Bird in their prime over Lebron as 2 and 3.
That’s the part I don’t get like he did all this shit alone lol
I would love to hear your argument for bird and magic above lebron.
Lebron has more rings than Larry bird more mvps better accolades altogether.
And played at the highest level for 20 plus years .
Magic has 1 more ring than lebron but less finals mvps and league mvps
Lebron beats him in most statistics. I just don’t see it
@@brandoncooper439 so is it based off the rings, fmvps alone??
@@z-mane1438mate let this go you know msgic and bird aren’t better than lebron
@@raymondsims7042 resume wise no but better ball player yes
KD ballin with the Mad 😠 face like Iverson is crazy !!
I would d pay a million dollars to debate with this man about this topic
KOBE all the way 8/24 🐍🐍🐍
Facts stop playing with Kobe's name. Kobe should've easily had 3 or 4 mvps. He almost 3 peat twice without Shaq. That injury to his Achilles in 2012-2013 changed Kobe's game forever. He missed the entire 2013-2014 season but 6 games and in 2014-2015 he tore his rotator cuff amd played 35 games. So get off that man nuts Stephen. A.
MJ, Kareem, Magic, Russell, Kobe, and Duncan are top 6. Besides Kareem, these guys won 5 or more chips with the team that drafted them. That's impressive. 🙏🏾
That would actually be my 6 too, but you gotta put LeBron in there too. I'd prob 1. MJ 2. LeBron 3. Kareem 4. Russell 5. Magic 6. Duncan 7. Kobe...Then 8. Bird, 9. Wilt, 10. Steph, 11. Shaq, 12. Hakeem, and so on
@@brooksorlando4881no dude, he shouldn't be in top 6, he needed 3 teams to win 4, he's no. 1 in ring chasing
@@aeriskabkr1110stop giving your opinion
@@brooksorlando4881I don’t agree with you putting Steph over Shaq but its your opinion
@@aeriskabkr1110 I still disagree. Just look at the state of Cavs with and without him. They went from a finals app to garbage when he went to Miami..to multiple finals app, and a win, when he returned. Kyrie is a HOFer, but they were garbage when it was just him. Then he goes to LA, they win a champ and then Cavs struggle again. Cavs are now just getting it back together, but it took yrs. The common denominator is LeBron. I do think MJ is better btw overall, but you gotta admit LeBron is better than 39 yr old MJ on Wash. Granted, I was old enough to catch end of his time in Chicago. He's the GOAT. I'd even argue Kobe had a stronger mental than LeBron. LeBron was still the superior player though. I feel pretty confident with modern day guys late 90s-present..MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Kobe, Steph, Shaq. Those are the 6 best in my lifetime. KD, Dirk, Wade, KG, Malone would be other considerations. With old heads, I never saw them play..so I'm just basing it off stats/accolades. I guess we can agree to disagree on LeBron
What's wrong with placing Kobe Bryant in the top five NBA all-time greats, let alone allowing basketball purists having their opinions? The Black Mamba's place remains undisputed. #RIPMamba
This was by far the least IQ argument ever. I was actually on the fence of Kobe's #2 position until I heard this. Now I am 100% convinced Kobe is #2.
Here’s some facts for you Kobe FG %44, 1 MVP, and only 2 FMvp! How can he possibly be number two? Unless you just like his sneakers and feel sorry that he’s no longer with us
@@terrencealexander6811 If that is the criteria, Curry would be the GOAT. Go back to high school, learn some common sense, and come back here to contribute. What is your IQ?
@@terrencealexander6811 so you are saying Curry is the Goat.
@@terrencealexander6811 look at yourself in the mirror. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@VannApragalyou’re too emotional you need a nap youngin!
Kobe is number 2 that’s simple
Stephen A Smith should be ashamed of himself Kobe is the only player in history to face 4 50+ win teams in one postseason without a Top 75 teammate and only 4 teams has faced such competition being the 94 Rockets, 01 Lakers, 08 Lakers and 2010 Lakers the Mamba is responsible for 3/4 of them. Kobe has a 25-10 record against 50 win teams in the playoffs which happens to be the most in league history from 2008-2010, Kobe Bryant Beat As Many 50-Win Teams In The West As Magic Johnson Did In His Entire Career.
From 2001 to 2010 Kobe Bryant arguably held the title of the best player in the league. Yeah guys had great years also during this period but Kobe showcased unbelievable scoring ability, defensive prowess, and leadership. Kobe Bryant possessed the most refined and versatile skill set in the history of the game. His footwork, mid-range game, and basketball IQ were unparalleled. LeBron James didn’t truly emerge as the NBA’s best player until around 2011/2012 this period of sustained dominance sets Kobe apart. Let alone the era of the 2000s had one of if not the slowest pace of play, team ppg, iso scoring ect, Kobe Led the 2000s in ppg also was all nba defensive 1st team in those years not only leading the offense but also leading the defense taking on the other teams best player.
LEBRON HAD D WADE , KYRIE AND AD All IN THEIR PRIMES DONT GIVE ME THAT SHAQ BS And not to mention all the ring chasing Shaq did when he left like teaming up with Wade and LeBron people forget that and he went to Phoenix and Boston
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You comparing them to Shaq?
@@dparks2856 I'm comparing the fact that LeBron had multiple players in their primes but everyone wants to shame Kobe for playing with a prime Shaq
@@dparks2856wade comparable to shaq plus wade carried Shaq in 06 finals
I just unsubscribed from your channel Stephen A for disrespecting Kobe Bryant that way.. Ain’t no way in the hell Kobe ain’t top 3 in nba history. SMH MJ and Kobe then everyone else like A.I said..
No one was ranking kobe this high before he died. Let's keep it real. If you eanna rank him 5th or 4th all time i wont hold you, but he's no higher than that
Exactly. Before he passed, the only argument for the GOAT was between Bron and MJ...
That’s not true most current players have Kobe top 5 lol
Yeah because the media had an agenda to put kebron ahead of him soon as he retired. Kobe last couple years after the Achilles left a bad tale to younger viewers.
@@loddydoddy638 stop blaming that shit on the media. People, media or not, were all hyping it.
@@dremac33kobe is the goat 🐐 💯. Kobe better than LeBron and mj
I lost respect the little bit respect remaining for Stephen a smith. I’m a Boston Celtic fan and the only person we feared was MAGIC , JORDAN, & KOBE . Kobe is the 2nd greatest of all time and Bird is better then Lebron respectfully
Crazy how people have to go SO far to say he’s not #2 all time. Lmao
He isn’t objectively speaking
Youre a joke steven a smith. Kobe is number 2 or 3 all day. Lebron is outside of top 5 for certain. Get out of here.
Why is Kobe #2?
@@dparks2856 even Jordan said himself the only man who could possibly beat him 1v1 was Kobe. Kobe at worst is a number 4 with Jordan, wilt or maybe Dr. J. In no way shape or form is leflop in top 5, maybe just maybe top ten
I hope Stephen A sees this and asks himself one question sense LeBron is the second best over Kobe. Could LeBron beat Kobe in his prime in a 7 game series.
LeBron who was gifted Kobe's MVP twice couldn't even get out for the East to meet Kobe who was in the finals three times in a row.
You can tell his age bias because he doesn’t paint Kareem in the true light. Kareem won one ship without magic. Kobe won 2 without Shaq And his next best player was at best a top 15 pf of all time maybe. Magic is considered the greatest pg ever and Kareem is in everyone’s top 3 centers and a lot of old heads goats(nothing wrong with that, fair argument) But see, we never say Kareem had magic or vise verse and I just don’t fucking understand that AT ALL. He also said lebron had kyrie(a lot of people say he has the biggest bag in nba history), Dwayne wade(top 3 sg ever), CB (he was better then pau in prime 25-10 guy) Kevin love(25-10) guy. Jesus. I am not trying to downplay Kareem or lebron. I’m just saying we always wanna point the finger that Kobe had shaq but these other cats had goats too. Kareem Abdul jabar was the greatest basketball player to ever live during his time he was like MJ. And you pair that with magic. Stop it. KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY ALL AROUND THE BOARD. This old head so bias it’s ridiculous. Dude is a Knicks fan from back in the day all them cats bias as it comes but swear they Basketball geniuses.
Lebron fans diminish kobes and kareems legacies because they were far better WINNERS. Ya know, the reason why sports exist.
Lebron is the antithesis to the spirit of competition. And it's permeated throughout the league for far too long.
They hate Kobe so hard it’s sad to see I think he 1 or 2
And you ain’t got no goddamn argument for it both are just utterly ridiculous and dum to have Kobe top 2
@@johnjovanovichwick4194 it’s all opinionated nobody word is law my friend
Players opinions matter most. They know! They know!!
He won with D-Wade
Jerry west drafte kobe over everybody on that top 75 player draft.enough said.
Forget about the number of rings and other accomplishments. Let’s talk about basic skill, or rather, the lack thereof in LeFraud's case. It's clear as day that Kobe was lightyears ahead of LeBronze in terms of sheer basketball prowess.
LeBronze can only score most of his points by driving to the rim. It's like watching a one-trick pony in action. Sure, he's got the build of a freight train, but when it comes to actual skill, he falls way short.
Let's start with the basics: shooting. While Kobe was draining silky smooth jumpers from all over the court, LeChoke struggles to hit a mid-range shot without looking like a deer caught in headlights. He heavily relies on driving to the rim for scoring. His shooting abilities are inconsistent. His mid-range game lacks finesse, and his post moves are underdeveloped. Additionally, his free throw shooting has been a weakness throughout his career.
And let's not forget about footwork and finesse. Kobe had the grace of a ballet dancer combined with the precision of a surgeon. His footwork was a work of art, allowing him to create separation from defenders and hit those jaw-dropping shots. But LeBronze? Well, he's more like a bull in a china shop, finesse is a foreign concept to him.
Furthermore, let's talk about killer instinct. When the game is on the line, and everything is at stake, LeFrozen seems to fade into the background. Kobe, on the other hand, had an insatiable hunger for victory. He wanted the ball in his hands, and he wanted to take the last shot. He relished the pressure and thrived in those high-pressure moments. LeBronze, well, he seems content with passing the ball or deferring to others when the going gets tough. He melts under the spotlight while Kobe thrived, hitting iconic contested shots and carrying his team to victory.
But hey, at least LeQueen can dish out some flashy passes, right? Well, let's not get carried away, his passing is more about brute force than finesse. It's like watching a quarterback throw a Hail Mary pass every time he makes a play. Sometimes it works, but more often than not, it's just a reckless display of power. He can't hold a candle to Magic Johnson. Magic's artistic flair, court vision, and ability to control the game through his passing set him apart as the greatest playmaker in the game.
Not to mention defense, while LeBronze is often praised for his physicality on the court, his defensive prowess completely falls short when compared to the likes of Kobe. When it comes to lockdown defense, Kobe was a defensive juggernaut. His tenaciousness on the defensive end was legendary, earning him numerous NBA All-Defensive Team selections. Kobe's footwork, combined with his defensive instincts and competitive fire, allowed him to frustrate and disrupt even the most skilled offensive players.
Now, let's turn our attention to LeSoft. His defensive lapses, lack of consistent effort, and questionable decision-making on that end of the court have been evident. Unlike Kobe, who embraced the challenge of guarding the opposing team's best player, LeBronze has often shied away from such assignments. His defensive contributions have mostly revolved around chasing down opponents for highlight reel blocks, rather than consistently locking down his man or being a disruptive force.
It's important to note that defense is not solely about individual accolades or highlight plays. It's about consistently making a significant impact on that end of the court, shutting down opponents, and being a leader on defense. Once again, LeBronze falls short compared to the defensive legacy left by Kobe.
*Conclusion:* When it comes to skill alone, LeBronze is like the kid who brings a water gun to a paintball match. He may have some "impressive" numbers and highlight reels, but when you break it down, it's clear that Kobe was on a completely different level. LeBronze's reliance on brute force and lack of true skill make him the odd one out in this conversation about greatness.
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Kobe is #2
I used to have love for Stephen A. But no more. Why would we listen to him over players like AI who faced Kobe and other greats. Kobe top 2 all time. Magic and Kareem won five with each other, Kobe won two without too much help in a tough western conference, and also didn't jump from team to team to chase championships.
Why downplay AI's opinion? Lame.
Stephen, this is meant with zero disrespect but I am going to listen to someone that actually battled Mike and Kobe at a level higher than most ever could. I trust the Answer.
The agenda against Kobe is so blatant his bosses probably asked him to make this video💯
Kobe is the only player that can sit in the same room as MJ those two besides The Dream had no weaknesses on the court.
Let’s talk game what Kobe has over Lebron let me break it down 3 point ability, shot making skill in big moments, takeover ability in big moments,midrange , footwork, creativity on the shot creativity driving to the paint, post game, perimeter play, handles, quickness, defense, mental toughness all better than Lebron . The only thing Lebron has over Kobe or Jordan is vision and passing ability that is it . Stephen A has no clue what he is talking about and him plus a bunch of other commentators speak about Lebron so they can keep a job it’s obvious smfh. You cannot find me 10 players that played back in the day and now that will say Lebron is better than Kobe only analyst will say this because it keeps their shows relevant when they have the discussion.
Bill Russell, MJ, Kareem, Tim Duncan and Kobe are my top 5
Trash top 5 brother. No disrespect just shows you aren’t truly watching . U just researched stats
@@tkbaku3036Name a better top 5 then
@@CensorTube84top five would be mj, lebron, Kareem, Russell, Kobe
I'd put Magic in place of Duncan, but I definitely agree with the rest
The Top 2 is INTOUCHABLE ! LeBron and MJ are alone.
Then we have KAJ, Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Wilt, Duncan, Bird, Russell. Pick your order but LBJ and MJ are ALONE
I agree but let’s take Lebron out of that list
@@JoeBudd-Dall the way out of the list. LeBron's name does not belong with those guys
1. MJ, 2. Bird, 3. Kobe,
All I have to say is what happened to Stephen Smith he was a Kobe supporter through his whole career, and now he acts like Kobe never existed.
Because Lebron is the GOAT in many people's eyes already. He took off the nostalgia glasses and realized what Bron is doing in year 21 isn't human.
@@Ackshuallymmmhow is the biggest loser in nba history the goat gtfoh
Lebron is not the goat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 8 straight finals losses .
@@NGMJ23 I agree lebron isn’t the goat, but why just lie and say he lost “ 8 straight finals” 🤔
"GREATEST" is pretty immeasurable. Kobe inspired and entire generation of fans to either love him or hate him. Defenses were terrified of him. He was a KILLER scorer and put LA on his shoulders. I can see someone putting that stuff over MVP's and "finals appearances"
Kobe was one of the best 2 way players all time.
Nobody even made this claim until the brotha passed.
They were legit trying to compare Tim Duncan's career to Kobe. Now all of a sudden hes top 2 smh
On god
People were saying kobe was number 2 i remember vividly cause some would argue he was the goat and i would argue all day about jordan.....i got kobe at 2 before he passed
I think it’s honorable that some of Kobe’s peers hold him in such high regard enough to overrate him when it comes to the best players of all time and what they did throughout their career. I also like that people like Stephen A are smart enough to call them out a correct them when they misspeak because they’re only placing him there because they have love for him but there’s no real argument that can be made for him when it comes to top 3 all time
😂😂😂 Mane I think U delusional to think Stephen A knows more than his peers/competitors 😂
@@kristineellis2573 a credited sports analyst with over 2 decades in his profession? I’d like to think so. Also current and past players have said he isn’t #2 also, so i guess they must be delusional as well.
@@VitaminJaythis the same guy who couldn’t give an explanation as to why he doesn’t hold magic & kareem situation to Kobe & shaq
Stephen a shouldn’t be talking, he thinks Wilt was a foot taller than his competition😭🤣💀
@@VitaminJay it’s entertainment not legitimate analysis, just narratives.
Kobe and Jordan are above everyone else
Before Kobe passed, it was just the MJ-LBJ GOAT discussion. Whenever someone mentioned Kobe, he was dismissed and said he was a Jordan clone. After his death, now people want to put him in that equation. Damn shame that it took his passing for people to put him in that argument...
Where have you been cause that’s not at all true
@@davidbest1403 man stop playing. Where have you been? It was like that long before his passing. The majority of the GOAT debate was always between MJ and LeBron. And whenever Kobe was mentioned, people laughed it off...
Lies, Lebron was only in the convo because he literally paid the media to talk about him
@@jhad777 man stop. LeBron was in the discussion more times than Kobe. It wasn't fair, and I believe that Kobe is a top 5 greatest but don't pretend like people said this when he was alive. Just like Pac, Biggie, etc. it take someone's death to really appreciate what they've accomplished. Same as Kobe.
@@jhad777lol “lebron paid the media” is hilarious 😂😂
I got Kobe in my top 5 of all time. I got Lebron in top 10 of all time. #7. I just did, Stephen A.
Your logic makes no sense. “Kobe won with a prime shaq” but Magic & Kareem never get accused of this! They each get full credit somehow? Kareem’s first 10 years in he only had 1 ‘chip & 4 of those MVP’s came pre ABA/NBA merger when half of the best players in the world are were in another league where Dr. J was clearly the best player on the planet (and the 70’s btw). Dr. j was winning MVP’s & ‘Chips in the ABA & his first year in NBA went to the Finals & Lost to Blazers & Bill Walton (who was considered the best C in the league above Kareem at that time). If Kareem didn’t get Magic, he’d have only 1 ‘chip & only 2 post-merger MVP’s. No one ever had him over Dr. J in the 70’s. Magic played with more HoF’s & all-stars than anyone. Magic was a better rebounder & passer. That’s it! He had Cap to lead firmly & he could be free. Kobe was a better ball handler, shooter, finisher, defender, had better footwork & work ethic than Magic. Stop it!! Kobe & Zeke are the only multiple time champs with no other top 75 player on their team. Kobe had Pau and won 2/3! Against 4 HoF’s. Dont even try to bring up Kareem’s HS & College accolades because 1960’s HS & College basketball was so primitive, Angel Reese would average 30ppg against his competitors lol. The stats are misleading because he didn’t play his first 2 years under Dell Harris & last 3 years were marred by an achilles injury. From ‘98-‘13 he averaged more ppg than LeBron & Durant did for their careers. Also, got 3rd in DPOY in ‘02 behind Ben Wallace & KG. Also, he should have 3 regular season MVP’s, you know that! Robbed! I have more to say but Im tired or texting. Put me on the show. I know i’ll cook you on your NBA knowledge. I have former players backing me up too! You ain’t the only one.
Its amazing how the "MEDIA" says Lebron. But the actual players say Kobe. So i guess the "MEDIA" knows more than the players themselves. 🤦🏾
Players say Kobe and lebron to be fair both get an insane amount of respect from other greats.
And yet he’s still the best people like you Stephen forget that he could do literally everything at an elite level
People even "experts" don't watch or play basketball, they read and compare stats.
I'm not even going to go mention accolades because if we're measuring accolades then we're not naming the best player we're talking about the most decorated player.. and then Bill Russell should be number one, but he isn't either.
As a basketball players both *Kobe Bryant & Michael Jordan perfected the game* , there was not a flaw in their games, both Kobe & Michael competed in tougher eras...
Michael literally competed against people trying to physically hurt him & Kobe competed and peaked in the 'deadball era' when hardly ever there were games finishing with one team scoring 100 points he was doing superhuman stuff like outscore the entire Mavericks (Dec. 20th, 2005) squad that went to the finals.. (in that season)
Everyone wants to bring 'mr selfproclaimed' into the conversation...maybe because he has an "sports"/media agency pushing, creating and paying for a narrative; but wasn't Mr selfproclaimed the guy that couldn't win a gold metal in the world cup and the Olympics, ehen it was his turn?.. wasn't until Kobe showed up that it was proven who was the real alpha?
Kobe was such an alpha that kicked SHAQ out of the Lakers and refused to play with another superstar (he blocked KG to the lakers because he knige had to do it alone,somethytge other guy has never even consider) because he wanted to win it all without any asterisk... KOBE WANTED TO DEFEAT THE BEST, NOT TO JOIN THEM.
Now if we're talking about field goal percentage, true shooting.. again this is almost a different sport, games nowadays finish with teams scoring up to 300 points combined... BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY....
Are we going to compare dunks and lays up during the (the last decade) softest defensive era ever when he (mr selfproclaimed) is been sourrouded for an entire decade by other superstars (more offensively gifted than him) in superteams assambled by him????
vs contested mid and long range jumpshots during the last real defensive era????
Kobe is, was, has always been a better shooter, a better defender, has/had better handles, better footwork and is more sports pshyco... He is willing to sacrifice himself for a victory like maybe nobody has ever before... Are going to talk about how he won a championship with a broken finger (broken index in his shooting hand Dec 11, 2009) during the 2010 during the playoffs & finals run???
Mr selfproclaimed... Not only is not a real alpha.. he looks up for excuses... BUT SOMETHING NOBODY TALKS ABOUT.. is how he is constantly traveling.. the NBA allows him to get away with it, but realistically from a purist point of view he has NO BAG whatsoever... poor handles, horrible footwork, he is a bad shooter..(and it has gotten better)... He is physically an unstoppable animal.. but he is heavily favored by today's rules... He has NO midrange, no jumpshot... He is an average (now he was terrible back then) free throw shooter... Is he really the second best player ever???? NO HE IS NOT... Not in accolades, (especially if we add the context) "he allowed" (not really Steph earned it) an average sized guy drafted to the worst team team in the last decades prior to him to establish an entire dinasty by changing not just the league.. But the whole sport.. all in allegedly "his" era. (*this is actually Steph's era and people in the future will realize*)
*1 MJ
2 KOBE
3 STEPH.
ALL TIME, ALL TIME.*
How a media dude gon tell someone who played all 3 of these guys he’s wrong nah wtf is the world coming too
RIP Kobe but nobody was saying he was #2 until he passed. He is top 10 though
Kobe is literally the goat 🐐. In 2017 interview when kobe was alive mj said kobe better than LeBron 💯
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr Who cares what MJ says that's HIS opinion. How you the goat with 1 MVP? Played Robin to Superman for years, couldn't win rookie of the year because you couldn't even start... man GOH!
@@IdrisPalmer but you said nobody wasn't calling kobe great until he died?? When kobe was clearly the goat 🐐 in 2010 winning his 5th ring
@user-df6wn8kk7k kobe got the most all star mvps in NBA history and everybody knows kobe got robbed 2006 mvp. Black mamba is the goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐💯💯💯💯
@JuwanTaylor-jz5zr All star MVP's 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kobe biggest weekness was making his teammates better and his shot selection while arguably having a top 5 player of all time as a teammate for his first three chips that’s why he can’t be 2 if most of his finals he wasn’t even the best player
He made Shaq a 3 almost 4 time champ
Wtf are you talking about, kobe had Pau gasol sure, but the rest were dime a dozen players, he took the Killer Bs to back to back championships, by your logic Lebron is automatically out of top 5 because he had 2 other superstars to play with throughout most of his career
Perfectly said !!!! That’s it
@@robreetoactually you made up your own logic, Kobe didn’t make teammates better. Everyone knows this but you, we all fans too
@@DCFG92Replace Kobe with AI they go to the same amount of finals. Kobe sabotaged the 04 final and ruined Shaqs great peformance because of his ego. Would never happen to Lebron.
Thank god he only speaks for him self and nobody else
BRON GOT ALL THOSE STATS OVER JORDAN TOO AND HE ALSO HAS MORE RINGS THAN BRON SO WHY IS HE AHEAD OF BRON BUT NOT KOBE????? YALL TALK KILLER MENTALITY? WELL KOBE AND MIKE HAD KILLER MENTALITY SO WHAT PUTS JORDAN AHEAD OF BRON BUT NOT KOBE🤷🏽♂️
Kobe Will always be in my top Forever he got a three peat and a two peat
1. LeBron 2. Kareem 3.Jordan 4.Magic 5.Wilt
Any time an argument for a playoff starts with numbers you know the fix is in.