“You don’t have a damn clue.” Stephen A replies to Rashad McCants
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It’s still painful to believe Kobe is gone. As a fan he’s was the standard of a professional. Rest In Peace Kobe!
And its sudden too 😢
No he wasn’t😭😭 did u not hear about his case?
Lebron is the standard of a professional not Kobe
@@honestman3918 👍
*@cjaymiller* an accused RAPIST
found "guilty" in a CIVIL trial (kobe)
Kobe IS NOT the standard of professionalism ..
Professionalism- The competence or skill expected of a professional. Regarding sports and Kobe's profession, he is the standard. Hence everyone wanting to have that "mamba mentality"
God he's gotta love being able to speak freely like this without having to deal with any blowback from espn
I was thinking the same thing
He’s gotta love it but he can’t get away from whatever narrative ESPN has him pushing 😂 like an abused woman smh…he flip flops so much that he has to create another problem to defend, to take the heat off the initial issue! 😆 I’d hate to be him, Skip, whoever else is trying to tell people with eyes and ears that they didn’t say something we all heard them say
Stephen A. Is not going to lie the way most of you are lying. Kobe isn’t no top 5
yeah this fire 😂
@@jrsmith1998 Kobe is somewhere between 7-9 all time. Depends on how you want to argue between Kobe-Duncan-Bird. But a lot of these dudes don't include Bill Russell and Wilt in their top 10s just because they are old, and they are both ahead of Kobe in my book.
Lmao that boy stats on the screen is funny as hell😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 Maan addin McCants’ career stats during his scene is villian work llf
We need Stephen a on Gil’s arena podcast 🤣🤣
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Gil’s arena whole shit can go bruh
I doubt that it happens because they said if you’ve never played in the NBA, anything that you have not say about the league is not valid if the disagree
So we can see two idiots spill a bunch of outrageous takes...I'll pass
@@jgottigunnzxl8653 why doe
They really listed that man’s career stats to invalidate him 😂😂😂
Nasty work 🤣
That’s what he does to ppl, put them down! “Brothas”
@@stickem2444 ain’t nobody putting nobody down..when it comes to sports you either show up or go home
@@talldomofacts
Kobe was never the same after 2012, Stephen A knows this, that's why they go to stats. Bronsexuals bruh
They will never say Magic won with Karim. Only Kobe is supposed to win alone
Kareem Abdul Jabber is always left off of these MVP lists. He was, in my opinion the greatest player of our generation. SIX MVP awards, SIX chips, 20 All Star awards. His sky hook is a thing of beauty.
Problem is, Kareem was boring to watch. The reason why Magic gets brought up more than his teammate.
@@Hingle_McCringleberry87 This has not do with being boring. He was one Hell of a Basketball player. And Magic wouldn't have any Chips if he didn't play with Kareem. No one can deny.that
That is why we shouldn't have a discussion of who the GOAT is, it should be who the GOAT of the ERA, not all time.
Not always. MJ, Kareem, Kobe, Wilt, Magic. Kareem’s GOAT is Russell. Despite Wilt dominating him. Kareem and Wilt didn’t get along for years. Wilt could easily be GOAT. Any brainless person that calls his opposing centers “plumbers” when they were only one inches shorter on average… has zero basketball IQ. I have Shaq and Duncan over Bron. Olajuwon and Bird are figuring it out with Bron next, then Erving, Oscar etc
Hence we forget, he held the scoring record with a complete college stay and only one (1) three pointer
Kobe Bryant was awesome 😎
Im 99 percent sure outside of Jordan, Kobe is the player all other players feared going up again. They knew when Kobe was in the zone, he might be the most unstoppable scorer and player that ever walked this planet. When Kobe was in the zone, 5 players couldn't stop him
Kobe's numbers are inferior to LeBron's. LeBron was also the more efficient player by a long shot and his+/_ was superior to Kobe's, which means LeBron's team was better with him on the court than Kobe's team was with Kobe on the Court. I can go, on and on, using pure, objective numbers, not merely subjective opinion.
Anyone who ever really played basketball knows there’s points outside of stats
@@ScottRachelson777And that’s ok he’s saying players put Kobe above Lebron.
Every transcendent legend(Shaq Bird Magic Jordan Kobe Kareem Wilt etc. Are feared. Don't buy into the false narratives.
@@nazinas21 No! He's saying some players put Kobe above LeBron.With that said, the objective numbers say who cares about opinions, only facts matter, not subjective, feelings-based claims.
Here's an argument based on objective evidence that demonstrates Lebron is the superior player over Kobe. I'd like to read your counterargument. I bet you will not be able to use any objective-based evidence to support your counterclaim. You will revert to subjective eye-test nonsense and other feeble-minded, 4th-grade quality essay-type fiction.
Argument:
On just a superficial level, the ring's argument doesn’t apply. Kobe won three rings as a second banana to Shaq and two rings as the Alpha. LeBron has won four rings as the Alpha of his teams. So while Kobe has more championships, he has *led* his team to less, because those first three were Shaq’s teams. Nobody’s arguing that Pippen is better than Kobe because Pippen’s six > Kobe’s five because Pippen was the #2 for all of those rings. Same with Kobe’s first three.
From a stat point of view, the argument gets even worse. LeBron averages more points per game than Kobe (both regular season and playoffs) and does it more efficiently (missing fewer shots). LeBron is also a better passer, rebounder, and defender, so that makes Kobe’s argument pretty weak.
But how about their performance in the Finals? Surely, as Kobe is super-clutch, that’s where his dominance will be asserted. Here are some Finals per-game averages
Player A: 25.2 points on 24.7 shooting possessions, 5.6 rebounds, 5.1 assists
Player B: 28.3 points on 25.7 shooting possessions, 9.8 rebounds, 7.7 assists
Pretty obvious who is whom, right? Player B destroys player A on boards and assists, and scores 3.1 points per game more while using only one more shot to do it. Not much of an argument, right?
About about individual Finals performances?
Let’s consider probably Kobe’s best Finals, the 09 series against the Magic where he averaged 32.4 points (on 30.9 shots), 5.6 rebounds and 7.4 assists. Pretty great right?
Compare that with LeBron’s 2012 performance against Oklahoma City, where LeBron averaged 28.6 points (on 25.6 shots) plus 10.2 boards and 7.4 assists. Kind of comparable right? Kobe scored more (though less efficiently) and LeBron averaged almost five more boards per game. I could see a Kobe fan considering the Kobe series as the superior series. What if I told you that the listed LeBron stat line was probably only his fifth-best Finals?
How about 2015 against the Warriors when he averaged 35.8 (on 37.6 shots), with 13.3 boards and 8.8 assists. Yeah, it was inefficient, but it’s still more than Kobe’s ever scored per game in the Finals.
How about 2016 against the Warriors when he averaged 29.7 points (on 26.4 shots) with 11.3 boards and 8.9 assists (and 4.9 steals+blocks)?
How about the 2018 Finals against the Warriors when he averaged 34 points (on 27.4 shots - holy heck) with 8.5 boards and 10 assists?
How about the 2017 Finals against the Warriors when he averaged 33.6 points (on 26.7 shots) with 12 boards and 10 assists?
I’m sorry, Kobe’s best Finals performance simply can’t compete with those. Not even close.
But LeBron is a choker, right? What about his 2007 Finals against the Spurs (22 points on 17.6 shots, 7 boards, and 6.8 assists). What about his 2011 performance against the Mavericks (17.8 points per game on 18.8 shots, 7.2 boards, and 6.8 assists). Neither of those are very impressive lines.
But let’s compare Kobe’s worst two, his 2000 against the Pacers (15.6 points per game on 19 shots, 4.6 rebounds, 4.2 assists) and his 2004 against the Pistons (22.6 points per game on 24.8 shots, 2.8 rebounds, and 4.4 assists).
I don’t know how you can look at those stat lines and think anything other than that LeBron is the better scorer in the Finals (both more points and more efficient) and clearly the better rebounder and passer.
What about Game 7s? Looking at the last five for each player:
Points per game: LeBron 34.4, Kobe 21.6
FG%: LeBron 49.1%, Kobe 37.2%
+/-: LeBron +44, Kobe +1
Not close.
What about buzzer beaters, say, game-tying or go-ahead shots in the final ten seconds of playoff games?
LeBron is 6 of 14 on those shots (43%).
Kobe is 5 of 22 on those shots (23%).
Not an advantage for Kobe there.
But let’s say that you’re not convinced. Let’s say that you still think that Kobe does more than LeBron, but in a way that isn’t covered by points, shots, rebounds, and assists.
How about looking at +/-? Plus-minus just compares how good a team is when a player is on the court compared with when they’re off the court. It’s an imperfect but quick and dirty glance at player value in a more subtle way than the box score stats.
Kobe’s Plus-Minus numbers? Only looking at his performance through age 34 (which is good because his last three years are awful), Kobe’s teams are +5.3 (5.3 points above average per game) when he’s on the court and -1.5 when he’s off the court, for a combined plus-minus of +6.8. His best year by this stat was 2009-10 when he put up a +12.4 for the season. Further, he had four different +10 or better seasons (02-03, 05-06, 08-09 and 09-10).
Compare this with LeBron (only through age 34). LeBron’s teams have been +7.0 when he’s on the court and -4.4 when he’s off the court, for a total of +11.4 overall. His best season by this measure is 08-09 when he put up a +21.2 (not a misprint; they outscored opponents by 15 points when he was playing, and were outscored by 6.2 when he was sitting). LeBron has nine different seasons above 10 and six above 15.
Not a close comparison. LeBron’s teams played better with him than Kobe’s did, but were worse without him. Huge gap.
What about the playoffs? You probably already know where this is going . . .
Kobe: +8.3 overall, best year 02-03 at +17.4, four different 10+ playoffs
LeBron: +10.2 overall, best year 16-17 at +30.7, six different years at *20+*
What does that leave? “Sure, LeBron scores more points more efficiently. Sure he’s the better rebounder and passer. Sure he’s been much better in the Finals than Kobe. Sure he’s been much better in Game 7s than Kobe. Sure he’s a better clutch shooter than Kobe (at least in the last ten seconds of playoff games). Sure he’s won more Finals as the #1 on his team than Kobe. And sure, LeBron’s teams are better with LeBron than Kobe’s are with Kobe, but LeBron’s teams are worse when LeBron sits than when Kobe’s teams are when Kobe sits (and we’re just looking at what teams outscore or are outscored with the players on the floor, we’re not looking at individual player stats). Sure, all that points clearly to LeBron. But what Kobe has over LeBron is . . .”
What? I’m sorry. There is absolutely nothing coming after that ellipses that should be at all persuasive. The closest you could get is to fill in with “… some media / talking heads act as though Kobe is as good or better than LeBron so it must be true.” That is not a crazy argument. It’s just wrong.
As an overall player, LeBron is better than Kobe in pretty much every way. And there’s really not much ambiguity to the argument.
Great Response! Very well spoken.
Bro, the opening had me weak 😂😂😂😂
Kat Williams got everyone saving the receipts like a child support case 😂😂😂
Good one dude 😂
I idolized Kobe Bryant, recently he was an amazing person post retirement, and as we approach 4 years since his passing , we are in 2024 and I still can’t believe he died and the innocent others 🙁
same bro...same.
Crazy af
Stop idolizing man. It’s a sin.
same bro, still can’t believe it
The guy was a rapist.
10 points, 2 RPG on screen is a roast😂
McCants is in his feelings because he internalizes every scenario in which a player is criticized or evaluated and immediately deems it to be unfair, regardless of what is said. He does it all the time and it’s annoying
FACTS!!! I HATE ALL OF HIS TAKES
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that SAS said the Clippers are a disaster with James Harden then flip flopped as if he thought we didn’t hear him
They were tho…or did u pay attention
Talk to me when Harden doesn't disappear in the playoffs
They literally were.
They were a disaster.. and then they fixed it up. It’s like yall just want to create narratives to get your self angry on a dude
They are a disaster. They're undercover til the playoffs come- just give 'em time....
Damnit I agree with Stephen A. We all got our Goat. Nothing personal folks. It's just a game
Yes, MJ agreed da GOAT
yes so he doesn't need to correct AI then, AI knows a lot more about Kobe and competed against each other
He's right about every one can have their own opinion but SAS never played ball, he can't see skill and doesn't value it
@@briantse2265 no exactly and he cites things that are not what make players great or better than others pointing to Lebrons stats or that Kobe played with Shaq. Lebron stat pads thats obvious to anyone apart from his fans and Shaq will tell you he needed Kobe and he more than contributed he wasn't playing as a 2nd string player. Kobe was a better more complete player as well, had better fundamentals, better scorer and played D.
@@dbergkampafcBill Russell is the goat
As a social media expert... I'm happy to see people like mccants, gil, etc get to talk about the game. I may not agree with them but it's good to see. I feel it's like when me and my siblings talk about sports. I come from a sports family, more than 4 cousins went pro, NFL, tennis, and I remember growing up seeing my other amateur league cousins get trophies in baseball. Throughout my entire life lol... I feel like finally players of all tiers have a better voice nowadays
I’m not, have you seen Mccants takes? He thinks popovich is a bad coach. That right there invalidates him 100%
@@eight2oneiwin fwiw i think he plays up some of the bad takes a bit for the sake of keepin the conversation goin but yeah he's had some stinkers lmaoo
GOAT debates are ruining basketball and many fan’s interpretation of the game and individual careers.
AI is the one that said Kobe was 2nd and SAS said he was wrong and he played against all 3 so why AI can’t have his opinion
AI is wrong, but SAS didn't ridicule him or try to use Kobe's death against him.
He did have his opinion 😑 so did SAS, as did you.
McCants violated because he ain’t talk basketball. SAS and AI taking basketball
@@QuestionEverything562....how is Iverson wrong??...it's his opinion & he played against MJ & Kobe....
The issue is why sas using his platform to go outta his way to disagree with Iverson. Especially if he’s dead.
People love to mention Kobe had Shaq in his prime, but leave the context that Kobe won TWO rings without him. By this logic KD is better than Steph cause he had him in his prime, but KD still hasn’t won without Steph. So who’s really better?
Rings aren’t the end all factor tho. Plenty of stars I would take over others that maybe have less rings or don’t even have one. That’s the way sports work sometimes
Boom and kobe led lakers in scoring vs toughest playoff competition blazers,spurs and kings!!shaq dominated weak east teams!!So since he beat up weakest teams and got finals mvp that makes kobe rings less??Despite shaq being a liability on defense pick and roll and at the free throw line!!Shaq had penny,nick anderson,grant,D3,eddie jones,nick van exel,kobe and won nothing until kobe hit his prime!!Also why is magic 5 titles but 0 without kareem brought up??Why shaq hurts kobe but kareem dont hurt magic??Stephen A smith is a joke
Exactly, and Kobe was the only superstar on that team. Lebron never won a chip as the only superstar on any team
He didnt win till he got Pao, couldn’t carry the load by himself. It hit different. Thats not a knock on Kobe, cause you need help to win a chip imo. Im just tired of people acting like Kobe did it all by himself after Shaq was gone, cause he didnt. Since Kobe passed his fans have been outta pocket 😂😂
@@riotordiet9154you cooking 🧑🍳
All facts 💯
My guy Mccants done made it! 😂😂😂
Kobe is the greatest Laker of all time.
- Magic Johnson
Facts because he Won without Shaq! But I love Magic he never won without Kareem! In addition Big Game James won a MVP at that!!
But you have magic an Kareem in the top 5 all time they both play on the same team but use shaq playing with kobe to discredit mamba
Do you know who they were going up against ??? 🤔
The difference is that Kareem won 5 MVPs before he played a single game with Magic. But he only won 1 ring. He only won 1 MVP after Magic got there. But he won 5 rings. Kareem was great before Magic. Magic was great after Kareem got there. Kobe was not that dude.
Kobe had MVP, Apex, Prime Shaq. Kareem was like 33 when he and Magic won that first ring and he was like 41 when they won their last ring. Huge difference.
Magic was not on Kareem level dude
@@mr.r4910 They are both top 5 players of all time. Dude
He discredit Kobe for playing with Shaq, Pau and Bynum but not Lebron for playing with Dwade,Bosh,Ray, Love, Kyrie. You have no clue Lebron ain’t winning finals MVP if he plays with Shaq’s prime too. That 3 finals was a mismatched against Shaq but nobody is talking how Kobe destroyed Kings and the Spurs during playoffs averaging nearly 30 same with Shaq.
Because lbj makes him money
Facts those 3 centers Shaq went up against had no skills offensively that could make Shaq work like Duncan or Hakeem..
I wouldn’t put Bynum in the same class as Shaq and Pau.
Now list the players they faced lebron played more tougher teams in his finals runs
@@lejohnjames7322you’re smoking crack, dude. The eastern conference playoff teams that lebron faced most his career were weak.
What I don’t understand about this argument is Lebron at the time said Kobe was the best player in the league twice.
@wahiidstube its called Humility
@@USAbestcountryever It’s called “the truth”.
It’s sad how people take these conversations so serious almost like life or death. It’s almost not worth having these conversations anymore with people unless you’re getting paid to do it like Stephen A is.
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Grown men going to war, ready to fight over ppl who literally don’t know them. Stans are weirdos
FACTS!!!!
Hes getting paid to put out a narrative 😂 its like all celebrities they know what they can and cant say 😂
Agreed. I've stopped years ago arguing why x player is better than y player. I sometimes get sucked in but then catch myself and fallback. Just not worth all the back and forth arguing
“I know you didn’t use the word besmirch, I’m using it” Stephen A with the collegiate level verbal jousting. 😂
please he probably doesn't even know the meaning .
It's not good to project your shortcomings on others lmao@@georgeblack3735
@@georgeblack3735 u only saying that cause he's a brotha, a whitey or chinese says it, u wouldnt even think twice rookie, go smoke a cigg and be productive already weirdo
As a Kobe Bryant Fan Thank you Gilbert and Rashad.. I thank God He gave us KB to get us more than we thought we could be.. he doesn't have God given attributes, he wasn't quick, he wasn't strong but his mindset and determination to be great is one of a kind.. Now I'm an Engineer because I copied his mindset and determination to pass the board exam.. I'm not smart like everybody, I'm below average but I look up what Kobe did to the NBA and the Help of My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I pass the board exam.
Gilbert Arenas and Rashad thank you
Congrats and continued success.
I think you're under selling Kobe's ability. No shade but Kobe was 6 ft 6 and was very athletic and was strong as anyone his size. Y'all be talking like he was Austin Reeves or something
@@str8duval I respect your opinion but that was I saw. Sorry but I don't have time to argue they don't pay us to argue with each other. 😁😂 I just thankful that I saw him play.
Cut this nonsense and believe in Jesus as your Lord and savior
This was funny to read.....You copied a basketball players mindset to pass your board exam..... That makes me want to go copy an athletes mindset and see can I pass this CISSP exam..You do know he went to the NBA straight out of high school and that takes a lot of God given talent. Like the guy said below you are really underselling his ability.
@@kobeludas no arguing here I'm just saying to act like he was summer slow unathletic guy is insane. Sounds like you were too young to see him as a rookie
Rashad Mccants consistently has some of the worse takes I’ve ever heard. For someone with his basketball resume you’d think he’d know better.
I hate how unique Kobe’s career was man he’s like the only player where you gotta actually go look to understand him…the fact that he doesnt have 3+ regular season MVP he gets disrespected cus what we saw was basketball brilliance like we’ve never seen go look at bro’s 2008/09 run thats what a top 5 player EVER moves,talks and plays like..he only gets disrespected because of regular season MVP’s
NBA couldn’t award him the league MVP after his court case. It would’ve made the league look bad if he was the face at the time.
NBA is still a business. So they gave the MVP to Nash twice.
Go back and watch Bron 2016 run and 2018. Kobe has NEVER had a more complete season than those two. To me being an all scorer isn’t as impressive as getting your entire team involved while also dropping 30 a game and much more efficient
…the rape allegations
Ppl won’t admit it, but that’s the big reason why they always discredit and dismiss Kobe as being a greater basketball player
That one year Nash was awarded MVP….he was not better than Kobe
Most talking heads hide their disrespect behind individual statistics
….let some serious off court scandal happen that involves LeBron
and watch how The League and most of the talking heads in sports media change their tune
Kobe definitely is better than Bron and definitely deserves at least 3 to 4 MVPs. Kobe was hated for many reasons. The bullshit rape allegations for one. Adultery. The fact that he could afford a 50 mil dollar ring. But his physical image was powerful too. His intelligence was a threat to many. I think he and his daughter plus 7 other people were murdered.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But you can’t label someone a hater because they have a difference of opinion. Just because you have someone top 5, I don’t have to. And it doesn’t make me a hater.
Its crazy to me when it comes to this smh
@@EastHumbled Opinions are not allowed under anglo saxon rule.
Right. Out of all the shooting guards that have walked this earth, he has Kobe number 2 all time and somehow that's diminishing his legacy lol
Ok I agree right… so why come on your podcast and I agree with mccants seem like he was tearing Kobe down… Allen Iverson is entitled to his opinion…
Oh Kobe had Shaq Kobe got blew out by Boston… like Lebron didn’t get swept more than once or choke against Dallas… we can nitpick every body… and again Allen Iverson got his opinion…. And I get it everybody look at just stats and that don’t always tell the true story just my perspective
I remember being at the Block of Orange in Orange County when I noticed a mob of people running to see something. That something was Kobe. I was a huge Laker fan/Kobe fan and I am not s "star" struck kind of person. I just kept on my way. I watched that guy for 20 years. Some of my best memories are watching him with my Dad. I cried the day he passed. Never even knew the guy but it was a day I'd like to forget. Still remember where I was and how I found out. I consider myself lucky to have watched him as much as I did.
I even consider myself selfish. Venessa not only lost her husband but also a child. And there I was feeling sorry for myself.
Well said as always 🙌🙌🙌
Kobe got two rings without Shaq and Shaq didn’t carry him he averaged 27 a game how is that carrying
Yep against the baby magic who never went back to the finals and a beat down Celtics who weren't fully healthy from battling LBJ and Wade. A healthy Celtics beat Kobe years earlier, the 2013 spurs were way better than any of those teams and LBJ beat them in 7
Because he didn't win any awards while playing with Shaq. Shaq won a MVP and three finals MVP while playing with Kobe. The argument would have changed if he had at least one of those things but he don't
@@sportspanelpodcast7488u think Kobe was ok after going through the western conference come on man
It's just classic revisionist history. The people that were actually around and watched the 3peat Lakers know they were being heralded as the greatest 1-2 punch the sport had ever seen, now all of a sudden Kobe got "carried". It's hilarious. Mostly comes from members of the LBJTQ community.
Kobe always had the best coach and the best center between Shaq and Gasol.
Stephen A just put Mccants on another level lowkey. He a real one
Facts… talked about mad shit other than Kobe vs Lebron because he know wassup
What does this dumdass comment even mean
I gotta respect the hell outta Stephen A for this one 💯
@@user-ll3mk7kb9zyou clearly lack comprehension skills.
@@Blazejones31Facts 😂😂😂
Stephen A. Smith and ESPN can speak on this nonsense, but they have nothing to say about Josh Giddey!
As Rodney King 1nce said, "Can't We All Just Get Along!!"-😂
My girl was led in and asked if I’m listening to a preacher 😂
The fact that he put his stats on the screen is legendary 😂😂😂
The pettiness is lovely hahah.
😂😂😂
I didn’t even see that at first 😭
that’s 10 points and 2 rebounds more than what stephen a smith has ever done in the nba… coz he wasn’t good enough to even make the nba!🤷🏾♂️
😂😂😂😂😂😂 petty as shit it’s definitely 10 pints more than Stephen A has ever had but still funny
I WAS ONE OF HIS BIGGEST FANS AND WILL BE FOREVER..BUT I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HE AND HIS MOM ,DAD AND SISTERS..THAT DISAPPOINTED ME...I PRAY HIS WIDOW AND HIS FAMILY ARE WORKING TOGETHER BEHIND THE SCENES TO HEAL.❤❤❤❤
That’s none of your business
But wait 10ppg and 2rpg in FIVE SEASONS is Nuts💀😂😂
I just don't understand how Kareem's name gets passed up all the time when it comes to the goat debate. The man won 6 MVPs, 6 Rings and was the all time leading scorer and no one talks about him.
The tape 💯he had the greatest career ever but from a skill set Hakeem was way better💯🤷🏿♂️
Because he is most overrated player who play in the weakest NBA era in 70s... Then he goes in L.A. and won 5 rings as second best player after Magic. Kareem's 5 regular Mvps in 70s look against je won and then look against JOrdan won: Malone, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Barkley... Can you imagine that Jordan won 5 rings as second best player? Cmmon, Kareem is all time Great but he never critize. HE WON 5 RINGS AS SECOND BEST PLAYER.
Because the man just shot a Sky hook he had no all around game he was taller than almost everyone with the best team at that time. Kareem is no where near as skilled and talented and The Dream .
@@playboyofthecentury2225he definitely didn’t only shoot the sky hook … he was dominating with the dunk first they banned the dunk because of him n college … Kareem had moves they just show the sky hook all the time … Kareem should have another finals mvp too but they gave it to magic
Because he was a second option his whole career in the modern era
SAS says he’s not trying to diminish KOBE’s legacy. But keeps saying Kobe played with Shaq. Excuse you, who did Shaq played with???? People forget that Kobe carried Shaq half of their playoffs also. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
LeBron went to Miami to play with Wade.
I don't think that's diminishing, that's facts. I'm sure if you give somebody like Tmac shaq for 3 years, he's winning at least 2 titles. They played with each other, and benefit from each other. That's what I got from it
@@MikeStew07the same argument can be mad for kobe. If you give him kg or Tim he wins as well
Absolutely
@@MikeStew07 people forget that Shaq played with lebron, wade, the Celtics crew with KG, pierce, Allen, rondo and wasn’t as successful as with Kobe himself.
Mccants is an emotional manpon
I been saying the same thing when Kobe was alive these guys then have this energy
R.B.A = rigged basketball association PASS THAT AROUND 👇 rip Kobe 🐍
SAS really been saying this forever. Mccants just emotional
Gotta say SAS make valid points
SAS speaking facts he told Koke when he was alive Bron was 2 and he could put him before MJ 1. He always said Kobe up there but not Kobe 2
mccants is always emotional on thing pod cast … He takes everything personal in my opinion…
Kobe his goat i get it
Yo Stephen A, why when you talk Kobe, you always bring up how he won 3 with Shaq, but you NEVER bring up the HOF roster Magic had for his CAREER? Why is Kareem ranked 3 when he had the same HOF roster that Magic had for the majority of his chips? I just got a few questions...
Right…
Because magic won more mvps and finals mvps than kobe, he didn't go along for the ride like kobe did with shaq.
@@Michael-tc1dmhow do you go along for the ride matching the output of your co-Star. Kobe won two more while Shaq played with prime Wade, Bron, was on the Suns, the Boston big 3 and still Kobe won more
@@Michael-tc1dm you dumb if you think kobe went on a ride for those 3 chips
@@Michael-tc1dm Kobe Bryant averaged 21.1 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4.4 assists in 22 games in the 2000 playoffs. He won his first NBA championship. Kobe Bryant averaged 29.4 points, 7.3 rebounds and 6.1 assists in 16 games in the 2001 playoffs. He won his second NBA championship. Kobe Bryant averaged 26.6 points, 5.8 rebounds and 4.6 assists in 19 games in the 2002 playoffs. He won his third NBA championship. So much for being carried in the dominant western conference. SMDH!
It’s crazy he bringing up Kobe final failures what about when Lebron went scoreless in every 4th quarter against Dallas scoreless yall forget that in the finals he went scoreless in every 4th quarter in the finals and we just forget that
Who’s “we?” 💀💀💀 that shit gets brought up every single time when his name is compared to Jordan’s. Kobe shot 35% from the field in 04’, purposely blew a 3-1 lead, blew a 20 point lead against the Celtics in 08’ and shot 6/34 in the most
Important game of his entire career. YALL forget that.
@@dezz8598 yall love bringing up stats that’s why he is 9 times first all team defense right to Lebrons 5 right? 9 to 5 first team defense and let’s not talk about when Lebron gave up to Boston and left I’m from Cleveland
@@dezz8598 nobody purposely blows a 3-1 lead dumbass and check the stats of game 7 of the 2010 finals because everybody shot like shit because the game was a defensive battle. Check the finals score because the lakers won by scoring 83 points! Tell me how many teams winning any game with that score. 4 starters shot above 40% in that game and 3 of them were on the Celtics side and it was 6/24. If you’re gonna bring up stats be correct about them. Ray Allen was 3-14 and was the greatest shooter but I bet you forgot that. Or what about Pau going 6-16 and Bynum going 1/5 . You didn’t watch that game and it shows. You say he sucked in the biggest game but you ignorantly ignore HE WON and was still the leading scorer for the game
@@Tfyousaytome ppl also forget that 04 pistons had historically great defense they didn’t just clamp Kobe it was majority of the team they were smothered by Detroit and Karl Malone was injured
And he got destroyed by the San Antonio spurs when he played for the heat don't forget about that one
To be fair…Stephen A, you do have a history of making things personal. Especially when you had your old co-host Skip
Stephy Smith knows more about basketball than Rashad McCants ladies and gentlemen. McCants is right Kobe is #2 after Jordan. McCants is right saying Stephy didnt have that energy when Kobe was alive.
No
lol Stephen A so good at the low blows without trying
Not ture , it’s just because the other guy is not there to go even lower.
wrong@@Sandalwood11
They mention Shaq to discredit Kobe but the dude played with Ray Allen, A champion D-wade, Bosh, Kevin Love, Kyrie… AD… UD…
Magic the man SAS put above Kobe never won a ring without Kareem tf is he on about? Ppl are so contradicting it’s sick Kobe won 2 rings without Shaq Magic can’t say that about kareem tf if anything kareem has one more than magic lol 😂 Shaq has one less than Kobe what does that say about Kobe SAS?!?
None of those players are better than the most dominant center in nba history sorry
UD lol 😂😂😂 you made spit out my drink
Which one of them you just named is as great as Shaq was I’ll wait
@@stevedickerson1535 exactly
SA you are on point. Thank you for defending your opinion. I love your word “Besmirch” SA they do not know history, you have been through the fire and came out. Fire purifies.
We have to learn to disagree with people's opinions, without calling them a hater.
LeBron made the world, give him his flowers, and the media read witty but during that time, the media has put Kobe way off to the side , and the truth is everybody know Kobe was that guy
Lebron didnt make shit. MJ made the NBA world wide. Kobe Brought in viewers. The NBA is at an all time viewership low with Lebron as the head. Lebron aint shit. Kobe has less trips to the playoffs than Lebron but has more wins. lebron is the greatest at losing.
@@rgb2219 LeBron ain't shyt like nothing? you are one ignorant man 🤔
@@rgb2219stop hating for free LOL Kobe has more wins because he wasn't the best player on his own team for over half of them
@@str8duval if you look up the word retardation in the dictionary it has your name written in it.
There goes Stephen A changing the story again. Everytime a player says Kobe is number 2 on their list. Stephen A has to shut it down n address it. That's the issue! When Ariza said it 3 weeks ago, Stephen A made a whole segment to shut it down.. he did the same here. N now he's retracting n changing the main issue
He does the same thing with mj and bron.
Thank you
No! Stephen A. is pissed because Rashad is talking about Kobe's death and basketball in the same sentence with Stephen A.'s name thrown in the mix. Stephen A. had and has too much love for Kobe for that kind of ridiculous talk from Rashad.
Yall really taking mccants side. The. Again if yall kobe fans makes sense
@ozonespec nobody praised kobe more than sas when kobe was alive. Mccants weird
ill be seeing Stephen A. on gils show next week im sure of this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How do you say Kobe had Shaq and turn around and say Magic is the greatest Laker when he had a top 3 player ever for almost his entire career? I just don’t understand it.
Stephen A has mastered the art of talking a lot without saying a goddamn thing.
He said a lot because kobe def was his friend
You just can’t comprehend!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
How about you master the art of listening lil bro
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For real lol
Kobe's #2 hands down. SAS can't bring up how LBJ disappeared in the 4th quarter against Dallas and how he can get to the finals but the only time he carried the team was against Golden State
Kobe ain't number 2 nothin but shooting guard he's too inefficient and individually LBJ on another planet. LBJ had an old trash Shaq in the beginning of his career Kobe had a prime Shaq and hall of fame role players in the beginning of his career
Even if he’s better than LeBron he’s not better than Kareem or Magic..point being he’s not second to MJ.
Fam Kobe LITERALLY quit in that suns series and then got on TV and asked to be traded after he just QUIT.
@reidos8992 Don't bring that up 😂. You must remember. Some fans suffer from convenient amnesia
I like how people always bring up the Dallas series with lebron but never mentions how he came back the next year and won it all sounds very much like redemption for a good retirement movie to me
Looking up the meaning of besmirched as I’m watching Stephen A’.s rant 😂
Called him a college basketball player 😂 like he didn’t play in the league
My boy McCants made it on SAS radar, he made it 😂
Sas has been on Gil’s arena before. He already know him
Quit the fkn cap, SAS ain't never been on Gils Arena. He's been on No Chill Gils podcast but not Gils Arena. @@PureWaterGuy
That's all that matters huh. Saying something ignorant and emotionally driven for clicks lol. Man, you gen z folk are a lost cause
Mccants is one of Jason Whitlock's boys, he was a frequent guest. Enough said
@@thetruthendofstory That piece of💩Whitlock is the biggest Kobe hater! What the hell are you talking about? Make it make sense. 🤔
Steven a is hilarious bro I didn't think you would start off like that 😂
My thing is why are people who never were on an nba court giving their opinions as if they played. Too many analysts speak way too confident as if they’re retired nba athletes . The only people we should really respect opinion wise are nba players
It baffles me when these media people say guys who played against same athletes don’t know what they talking about. All the players who have played against Kobe and Lebron almost every player says Kobe is better! And 8:18 why is that cause they know who they are playing against. The problem is when any player brings up Kobe as there 1 or 2 media members come out and shut it down that’s the issue. Iverson can have his opinion why is it so important to say Lebron is better ?
Actually McCants, Stephen was saying Kobe wasn’t better than LeBron when he was alive. I can’t stand Smiths takes, but it’s true he did say this before he died.
But we do need to just let Kobe rest. McCants was right on that part.
Cap
He actually wasn't I understand y he said it but we mentioned great that are dead all the time wilt dead but we still put others players over him so is that disrespecting him@@donniewarren8363
They still resting they kno it's a debate nothing disrespectful or diminishing
@@donniewarren8363when it comes to basketball naaaaaw
Shout out to Rashad Mccants we need more players to stand up for Kobe because the media hates him
You’re delusional
You sound just as ridiculous as him also.
Wtf are you on bro lmao
Back to the cave troll
Have you ever watched Gil’s arena? Mccant routinely embarrasses himself. 🤡🤡🤡
“With all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about.” Is crazy no matter how you put it
rashad mccants wearing those rick and morty pants are so like him
The problem with McCant take is lot of time he's wrong, people was talking about LeBron being number one or number two when Kobe was alive.
It's ok to be wrong Stephen. Getting loud won't change that 😂
No, McCants deserves to get checked period
@spellsbrian1 it's ok to be wrong brian, taking it out on mccants won't change that 😂
@@skye6817...SAS act like Iverson can't have a OPINION....he said KOBE is his #2 & Mr. Kno it all got pissed...🎯🤣🤣
How is he wrong tho ??
@phillipshands8776 it's self explanatory, but if it has to be explained to you you're in the wrong section.
Thank you Rashand of calling this dude out as if his opinion is the end all be all and the only right one.
When Kobe took a team with Kwame Brown, Luke Walton and Smush Parker to a 45 win season. Odom was a good player,but not an aggressive scorer.
Kwame, Walton and Smush were serviceable role to bench players.
I don’t agree with a lot of SAS takes when it comes to athletes but I don’t hate him for it.people don’t like his takes so automatically they don’t like him.
Because he is not a likeable person.
Everybody entitled to their own opinion. Kobe is a once in a generational talent. He is # 1 for me because his work ethic set him above the rest. He had defeats and failures. But he rose to the challenge
y’all always talk about his work ethic like who takes care of there body better than bron still going Kobe broke down just the fact
@justinthebodyshopking5974 when you don't play defense at all, you tend to not break down as quickly. I hope this helps kid...
There you go. Kobe is your number one cool. My number one is Jordan. Healthy debate. No hating
You forgot a 0 behind the 1? So you have him at #10? Reasonable. I have Kobe on #12 on my personal all time list but there is definitely an argument for him being #10!
@shamelessjt1758 don't play defense? Yeah just say you don't watch basketball
My problem wit the Shaq argument.... Is LeBron had to play wit the second best power forward in the east and the second best SG in the NBA to get a chip and ray Allen
Every time I hear the word besmirched I think of William Regal
Kobe is 2# Bozo Rashad was right tired of Stephen A we all are..
Your opinion. Not his. You are proving his point.
Heck no.
Kobe #2!! When ? Cuz the way I remember he started on the bench. Who's have to work to be a starter. Just because he die doesn't shoot him to number #2.
Lebron #2 cmon I know y’all hate this man, but let’s not live in LaLa Land…
No we not
Kobe’s death was traumatic. It’s like after that happened the world went to shit
Literally
Quite literally Right after that Covid popped off ☹️☠️
Man please The world already was fucked up
@Vonteehoova Yeah, we already had problems, but it legit went to a *WHOOOOLE* other level after that 😑😔
@@Vonteehoova yes beloved we’re aware the world was alreays an evil place, no one ever disputed that. No one had ever dealt with covid-19 before and no one was expecting Kobe to leave when he did. So Stfu😉🤫
STOP it. We all know KOBE said he isn’t your friend🤦♀️
These dudes on ESPN are hypocrites always back peddling and moving the goalposts lmfaoo it’s ok for magic to have Kareeem but Kobe having Shaq is an issue lol
I don’t think the issue is he doesn’t have Kobe as #2 per se, I think the way he makes his case for Lebron and against Kobe does diminish Kobe (however you feel about that)
When SAS talks about Jordan vs Lebron, he diminish Lebron too. So you guys needs to relax.
I don’t need to relax, I just stated my opinion….this particular video isn’t talking about Jordan/Lebron but the same argument can be made if you feel like he diminishes one to boost the other..
hes not diminishing Kobe... SMDH... its because people are comparing the two players for the #2 all time position.. it just happens that its Kobe and Lebron...because MJ is 1. deal with it
@@JP-ks3kh....Iverson has Kobe as his #2....SAS should RESPECT that instead of getting Pissed....
@@JP-ks3khthat’s your opinion, I gave mine based on how I perceived his comments… I’m not vested either way because I feel it’s really subjective anyways
McCants spoke the truth and lebron fans call us haters😭
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Sas never disrespect Kobe and like he said, he told Kobe WHEN HE WAS ALIVE that he has Lebron at #2 all time so wtf is Rashad crying about!!??
Kobe is not at lebrons level lol
Naw his hate for Bron makes him suck off Kobe harder than usual
@@sportsgamer2342 that's ur Opinion
No Cap, Stephen said it when Kobe was alive. McCants just got too emotionally invested lol
People love to disrespect Kobe coz he lost to the Celtics in 08 and only has 1 MVP when he could have had more. They forget to mention he was a key factor in the Lakers 3 peat and led them to 3 consecutive NBA finals in which he won 2. People ignore that despite Lebron's loss to the Mavs in 11, he is considered in the GOAT debate. The same reasoning doesn't apply to Kobe. Stop with the nonsense. The GOATs are Jordan, Bron, Kobe, Magic and Kareem.
Facts
No one hears disrespecting Kobe. Losing in the finals happens so that doesn't necessarily take away from him having won MVP is fine it's just significantly lower compared to some of his contemporaries. These are just factors that normally get weighed in when discussing who the all-time greats are. Like it or not being a robin to Batman for three rings, only having one MVP and being inefficient compared to some of the other greats aren't going to play a part in his ranking. Doesn't mean he's not an all-time great, it just leaves rooms for a handful of guys to be better
Stephen A. on his Petty Crocker putting mans stats on the screen 😂
As much as I love Bron And Grew up hating on the Lakers, his reasoning for putting BRON over Kobe Don’t really make sense. Kobe Played With Shaq in his prime?? So LeBron didn’t play With anybody In the Prime after failing on his own ? Idk bout that one SAS
Kobe Bryant is the reason why a lot of people that was in the streets when he came in to league decided to play basketball. The black Mamba made you believe. All you gotta do is continue to work hard and it will pay off Maybe Michael Jordan, but Lebron does not have that ability to make people believe like Kobe Bryant.
Everybody just get emotional when it come to Kobe cause of how he passed. Everyone loves Kobe man
If Kobe didn’t pass I don’t think this would even be an argument or anything like that.
STEPHEN A SMITH PROBABLY UNDERSTANDS THE CHINESE LANGUAGE BETTER THAN HE UNDERSTANDS THE NBA
Ni Hao ma?😂
@@nukeboy4939 STEPHEN A SMITH= GOU PI
STEPHEN A SMITH = GOU PI MEDIA
Wilt dead and yall all say f him and his stats 😂😂😂
Kobe was cold AF. But I watched Kobe and Bron go at it when Bron came into the league and Bron dominated on average across the board on all levels. I got Bron tho. He's just a better all around 1-5 player. Hell Kobe said his number 1 pick all time would be Bron easily. So that's mad respect. Kobe could've picked anyone, but he picked Bron would be good number 1 choice to play with in the history of the game
Rashad is 100 percent right...Stephen A is all about narrative.....LONG LIVE THE BLACK MAMBA, THE BEST SINCE MIKE
Please state what he said was correct ?