nice video, thanks! just a comment needed: the stock map for ecu restore is not actually pulled out from the ECU, but downloaded from the upmap server. In this manner you are 100% sure to always have the latest map update. So it's not really important to backup it prior to do the ECU flash with custom map. You can do anytime ;-)
Loved the beginning 😂 channel is coming along nicely buddy. From music, and graphics incorporated, and obviously the content. Eager to see the next one with the air box install, and then the results!
I've got the same UpMap ordered from Joe. Waiting as they're on backorder. I'm glad I watched this video. Those error message trigger my anxiety. Thanks for posting the video.
Awesome video, thanks for making it simple and easy to follow. This is the first video I've seen on the Upmap unit, everyone always recommends the open flash tab but this is significantly cheaper. Just ordered mine after watching, hope its good.
I didn’t use the Gabro tune, because the T800 comes with one race map from Aprilia, and one Gabro tune of my choice. I planned on installing the RSV4 airbox on the bike and using Gabro’s tune for his airbox. So I didn’t want to waste my one free Gabro tune on just the slip on. However, he commented on this video saying that his airbox is different and his tune wouldn’t work with it, so I now plan on switching to Gabro’s tune for just the slip on. Good question! Thanks for watching.
Thank you! Believe it or not, I have not had a chance yet to ride it. The weather has been either really cold, or raining. As soon as I get some warmer weather I will do a review. Stay tuned!
@@DriftKr6l it’s an Aprilia/Piaggio accessory USB socket I purchased from AF1. Here’s the link to it. Let me know if UA-cam blocks the link and I’ll figure out a way to link it. www.af1racing.com/2s000702-oem-aprilia-usb-socket-kit-2s000702
@@cwhitty05Do you know if there is an option to shutdown the exhaust valve in race-mode but let it remain active (like in the vanilla settings) in a different / normal driving mode? Would be nice to switch modes and let the valve be ON/OFF. BR from Switzerland 🇨🇭
@@Mafia2GTA4andCo that’s a great question. As far as I know, the answer is no, but I think it would be something written in the map that would allow for that. I’m sure someone probably could write a map that does that, but I don’t think anyone does. You’d probably have to get a custom map for that function if it is even possible.
That’s some old school OG type stuff there! Pretty sure I’d need a PC and some special cables. I don’t have the Tuono anymore unfortunately, but I’ll look into it, and maybe do it on someone else’s bike. Thanks for the suggestion
@@cwhitty05 Yeah I'm figuring that out. I'm brand new to Aprilia so this is all different. Seems like Tune ECU has something much easier but I guess the best way is to break down the spend 800 bucks.
I'm considering the Upmap for my '17 RSV4 . All I have right now is a slip on SC Project Race Oval and the Aprilia Race ECU. The bike idles fine and is fast but there's a lot of juddering between on and off acceleration. Did you notice any of that before you installed the Upmap ?
I did notice it has a twitchy throttle, but I trained my hand to be smooth and that made the biggest difference. Compared to the race ecu, Gabro’s maps feel smoother with the on/off throttle as well as power delivery and engine starting. Since you have the race ecu, changing maps isn’t a necessity, but if you want a smoother bike, then Gabro’s map can definitely help.
@@MrFeltpyromaster I’m not sure. I didn’t really notice any difference. It’s like that old saying “as you get older, you learn to never pass a bathroom”. It’s an Aprilia, never pass a gas station! 🤣 just fill up every 70-100 miles and you’ll never run out.
I bought a used ducati v4 a year ago with a t800 upmap unit on it and now I'm trying to revert to stock ecu mapping. In "founded devices", when I click on my unit, it says "error- device already binded". Does anyone know how to fix this?
Sounds like maybe the t800 was used on a different bike. A t800 once paired to a specific motorcycle will only be able to be used on that motorcycle, and can never be used on a different one. The solution would be to buy a new t800.
I have heard of some horror stories from guys saying Aprilia will void the warranty for people flashing their ECUs. I’ve also heard it not being a problem. I think it depends on the dealer. I’d say if you have an electrical problem, or a coolant leak, or something unrelated to the engine, they shouldn’t deny the claim, because obviously the ECU has nothing to do with a situation like that, but I’m sure if the engine blows up, they will deny it. User discretion is advised. I didn’t really care about the warranty, because I do my own work, and most dealers are so backed up with work, it takes 6 months just to get an appointment. I’d rather spend the money on the parts and fix it myself than wait 6 months for some entry level technician at a dealer with minimal experience to mess up my bike trying to put it back together.
@@cwhitty05 Yes I completely agree, it is the same in my area and I also do all of the work on my bikes. I was just curious regardless because my bike is still new 22" RSV4. Its a major pain in the ass trying to book it in because nobody else will touch the Diagnostics other than Aprilia certified dealerships which is why I bought a shitty laptop to do it myself. Thank you for the informative reply hopefully my install runs as smooth as yours
Just to follow up, I used your video as a guide and everything went perfectly smooth with my LeoVince shorty can and the race tune to match. Thanks again!
The redline has always been around 12k. I think the rev limiter is actually slightly lower than the redline, maybe 11,800, but I haven’t really paid attention to the rev limiter rpm. I think you may be thinking of the RSV4. I believe that engine goes to 14k, or very close.
@@cwhitty05 Mala is right. At 15:50 you can see the redline at 14k (12k is yellow). If you go to 18:00, yellow now starts at 10k and redline starts at 12.k, so there was a "loss" of 2k revs between those two screens.
@@lfperformance Wow, yeah that’s interesting! I think it’s because the ECU isn’t talking to the CAN bus. You can see the alarm at 15:50. When the ECU isn’t talking to the bus, I bet the cluster defaults to the maximum it can display. If you watch my walk-around video, which was before I did the flash, you can see the redline is 12k.
@@slava_slider I hooked up the unit to the bike and I do not see a way to clear the service indicator. You can only view and clear trouble codes with the app. You will probably have to take it to a dealer, or someone that has a PADS system to reset your service indicator.
Just wondering if you were supposed to disconnect the t800 after the remapping? Or should it be left connected with the Ecu? Looks like there were other functions on the app? Just curious.
It is up to you. There isn’t much space to leave the unit installed on the bike so I removed it. There is a part of the app that acts like a dashboard, displaying speed, rpm, gear, and a few other perimeters. It is cool, but not very useful to me.
To be honest, I haven’t had the time off, or the weather lately to try it out yet. Seems to be really nice weather when I’m working and raining or cold when I’m home.
After riding the bike, the things I’ve noticed; the engine pulls noticeably harder at all RPM. It is like night and day difference. The quickshifter seems to be a little more crisp, especially using the autoblipper. The cold start tune is a little faster too. The fueling seems like it’s pretty good. I need to schedule a dyno session to see what she makes.
@@jerryx2000 definitely will soon. Working on suspension part 2 now, then I’m doing a couple of bike maintenance videos soon too. Hopefully I can get some warm weather to go for a longer ride, and I’ll do a vlog.
its crazy that they charge you for software when you already bought their device,why not go to a dyno then and actually get a personalised optimised flash instead of those generic ones,pretty sure every bikes is a bit different
That is a little easier said than done. It depends on if you have a great tuner in your area. The last tuner I talked to told me it’s tough to tune Aprilia’s because most domestic tuning software companies like Woolich don’t have the interface to talk to the ECU. He said when you tune it, the ECU will slowly revert back to the original tune. Sounds like a load of shit to me, but I’m not a tuner.
@@cwhitty05 hahaha i don't know what advanced software aprilia might be using nowadays but it does sound stupid...that is some machine learning level shit :P
@@richardmann4006 I sold the Tuono, and trying to figure out what I want next. Panigale is at the top of my list, but this will be a track-only bike, so I might get something a little less pretty and easier to throw down the track. Haven’t decided yet.
Yeah I know that now. My goal was to upgrade to the std race map, and use my one free Gabro map once I got the upgraded airbox. But I learned after uploading this video that Gabro’s airbox map wasn’t included in the one free map. So I switched to the basic Gabro map.
nice video, thanks!
just a comment needed: the stock map for ecu restore is not actually pulled out from the ECU, but downloaded from the upmap server. In this manner you are 100% sure to always have the latest map update. So it's not really important to backup it prior to do the ECU flash with custom map. You can do anytime ;-)
Thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate it!
What if you already have a custom map on the bike and you want to back that up before installing the Gabro map?
@@meteoroz no backup read allowed, sorry!
Loved the beginning 😂 channel is coming along nicely buddy. From music, and graphics incorporated, and obviously the content. Eager to see the next one with the air box install, and then the results!
It’s been a steep learning curve, but I’m figuring it out little by little!
I've got the same UpMap ordered from Joe. Waiting as they're on backorder. I'm glad I watched this video. Those error message trigger my anxiety. Thanks for posting the video.
Nothing to worry about. Just pay attention and take it slow. You’ll be fine. Let me know how it goes!
Very nice video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. 🙂
Awesome video, thanks for making it simple and easy to follow. This is the first video I've seen on the Upmap unit, everyone always recommends the open flash tab but this is significantly cheaper. Just ordered mine after watching, hope its good.
Thank you! I highly recommend it. It was fairly easy to work with and figure out. Worked like a charm, first time. No hiccups.
For the guzzi diag companion program is free and I upgraded to race map using that . Works great!
@@RaviLal thought about doing that. I don’t have a PC or Android device though. But I hear that process works
If that was you making the motorcycle sound man. You've got some talent!
Thank you very much for this video. I’m about to pair mine with the app and I’ll have this instruction handy during the process.
Let me know how it goes!
Thanks, just installed today with help from you🙂
Thanks for removing the mystery. Ride safe brother! Oh yeah, Aprilia….FTW!!!!
THANKS
Awesome video! I just ordered the exact same thing from CBC. Just wondering why you didn’t download the Gabro tune for the slip on as well?
I didn’t use the Gabro tune, because the T800 comes with one race map from Aprilia, and one Gabro tune of my choice. I planned on installing the RSV4 airbox on the bike and using Gabro’s tune for his airbox. So I didn’t want to waste my one free Gabro tune on just the slip on. However, he commented on this video saying that his airbox is different and his tune wouldn’t work with it, so I now plan on switching to Gabro’s tune for just the slip on. Good question! Thanks for watching.
@@cwhitty05 yea I was wondering the same, why didn’t you download the Gabro race tune instead of the Aprilia race tune, now I get why you didn’t.
awsome video! was thinking of getting the upmap aswell very interesting. did you notice the different in performace with the different map?
Thank you! Believe it or not, I have not had a chance yet to ride it. The weather has been either really cold, or raining. As soon as I get some warmer weather I will do a review. Stay tuned!
@@cwhitty05 looking forward to the review video !
Good vid. What usb socket did you install on the dash to charge your phone?
@@DriftKr6l it’s an Aprilia/Piaggio accessory USB socket I purchased from AF1. Here’s the link to it. Let me know if UA-cam blocks the link and I’ll figure out a way to link it. www.af1racing.com/2s000702-oem-aprilia-usb-socket-kit-2s000702
Thanks for the video. Clear explanation. Question: does the Upmap also shutdown the Exup valve?
All of Gabro’s maps and the Aprilia Race map allow you to remove the exhaust valve servo without causing a check engine light.
@@cwhitty05Do you know if there is an option to shutdown the exhaust valve in race-mode but let it remain active (like in the vanilla settings) in a different / normal driving mode?
Would be nice to switch modes and let the valve be ON/OFF.
BR from Switzerland 🇨🇭
@@Mafia2GTA4andCo that’s a great question. As far as I know, the answer is no, but I think it would be something written in the map that would allow for that. I’m sure someone probably could write a map that does that, but I don’t think anyone does. You’d probably have to get a custom map for that function if it is even possible.
@@cwhitty05 thanks for your answer.
I will ask Upmap directly if there is a chance. :)
Great video honestly dude! Only thing I would is make another video doing the same thing but using Guzzi diag! Lol pleeease!
New sub!
That’s some old school OG type stuff there! Pretty sure I’d need a PC and some special cables. I don’t have the Tuono anymore unfortunately, but I’ll look into it, and maybe do it on someone else’s bike. Thanks for the suggestion
@@cwhitty05 Yeah I'm figuring that out. I'm brand new to Aprilia so this is all different. Seems like Tune ECU has something much easier but I guess the best way is to break down the spend 800 bucks.
did you receive marelli cables? i might be very stupid but i don’t see how i’d connect them to the bike.
update: i am stupid
Hi just wondering does the 2017 factory tuono model speedometer fit the 2015 and 2016 model
My guess is no, but I honestly don’t know. I would check the AF1 forum. I’m sure someone on there knows.
I'm considering the Upmap for my '17 RSV4 . All I have right now is a slip on SC Project Race Oval and the Aprilia Race ECU. The bike idles fine and is fast but there's a lot of juddering between on and off acceleration. Did you notice any of that before you installed the Upmap ?
I did notice it has a twitchy throttle, but I trained my hand to be smooth and that made the biggest difference. Compared to the race ecu, Gabro’s maps feel smoother with the on/off throttle as well as power delivery and engine starting. Since you have the race ecu, changing maps isn’t a necessity, but if you want a smoother bike, then Gabro’s map can definitely help.
@@cwhitty05do you know if the gabro has bether fuel economy?
@@MrFeltpyromaster I’m not sure. I didn’t really notice any difference. It’s like that old saying “as you get older, you learn to never pass a bathroom”. It’s an Aprilia, never pass a gas station! 🤣 just fill up every 70-100 miles and you’ll never run out.
@@cwhitty05 alright thx anyways reason why i asked i have racemap, and just wondered if it truly is worth the gabro uppgrade !
@@MrFeltpyromaster I found it a lot smoother with Gabro’s map, so I’d say it was worth it for sure.
what's the price 😮
I bought a used ducati v4 a year ago with a t800 upmap unit on it and now I'm trying to revert to stock ecu mapping. In "founded devices", when I click on my unit, it says "error- device already binded". Does anyone know how to fix this?
Sounds like maybe the t800 was used on a different bike. A t800 once paired to a specific motorcycle will only be able to be used on that motorcycle, and can never be used on a different one. The solution would be to buy a new t800.
thank you for the video, do you know if this voids warranty?
I have heard of some horror stories from guys saying Aprilia will void the warranty for people flashing their ECUs. I’ve also heard it not being a problem. I think it depends on the dealer. I’d say if you have an electrical problem, or a coolant leak, or something unrelated to the engine, they shouldn’t deny the claim, because obviously the ECU has nothing to do with a situation like that, but I’m sure if the engine blows up, they will deny it. User discretion is advised. I didn’t really care about the warranty, because I do my own work, and most dealers are so backed up with work, it takes 6 months just to get an appointment. I’d rather spend the money on the parts and fix it myself than wait 6 months for some entry level technician at a dealer with minimal experience to mess up my bike trying to put it back together.
@@cwhitty05 Yes I completely agree, it is the same in my area and I also do all of the work on my bikes. I was just curious regardless because my bike is still new 22" RSV4. Its a major pain in the ass trying to book it in because nobody else will touch the Diagnostics other than Aprilia certified dealerships which is why I bought a shitty laptop to do it myself. Thank you for the informative reply hopefully my install runs as smooth as yours
Just to follow up, I used your video as a guide and everything went perfectly smooth with my LeoVince shorty can and the race tune to match. Thanks again!
Hi,I am thinking of getting a sc project slip on.would this device be good anuff as a ecu flash and fix any problems
The Gabro maps included with this device run very well with a SC Project slip on.
why did it go from 14k rpm redline to 12k redline?
The redline has always been around 12k. I think the rev limiter is actually slightly lower than the redline, maybe 11,800, but I haven’t really paid attention to the rev limiter rpm. I think you may be thinking of the RSV4. I believe that engine goes to 14k, or very close.
@@cwhitty05 Mala is right. At 15:50 you can see the redline at 14k (12k is yellow). If you go to 18:00, yellow now starts at 10k and redline starts at 12.k, so there was a "loss" of 2k revs between those two screens.
@@lfperformance Wow, yeah that’s interesting! I think it’s because the ECU isn’t talking to the CAN bus. You can see the alarm at 15:50. When the ECU isn’t talking to the bus, I bet the cluster defaults to the maximum it can display. If you watch my walk-around video, which was before I did the flash, you can see the redline is 12k.
Can this tool reset service indicator? (spanner pictogram in bottom of dashboard)
That is an excellent question. I don’t believe it will reset the service indicator, but I will hook to my bike this weekend and find out for you.
@@cwhitty05 Thank you very much :)
@@slava_slider I hooked up the unit to the bike and I do not see a way to clear the service indicator. You can only view and clear trouble codes with the app. You will probably have to take it to a dealer, or someone that has a PADS system to reset your service indicator.
@@cwhitty05 Thank you for response 👍🏻
Whtas the results?
Only ridden it once, but it felt great! It’s warming up, so more riding will be done soon.
@12:12 ....umm we heard that lol
Shhh…
Just wondering if you were supposed to disconnect the t800 after the remapping? Or should it be left connected with the Ecu? Looks like there were other functions on the app? Just curious.
It is up to you. There isn’t much space to leave the unit installed on the bike so I removed it. There is a part of the app that acts like a dashboard, displaying speed, rpm, gear, and a few other perimeters. It is cool, but not very useful to me.
so what difference did you notice while riding?
To be honest, I haven’t had the time off, or the weather lately to try it out yet. Seems to be really nice weather when I’m working and raining or cold when I’m home.
After riding the bike, the things I’ve noticed; the engine pulls noticeably harder at all RPM. It is like night and day difference. The quickshifter seems to be a little more crisp, especially using the autoblipper. The cold start tune is a little faster too. The fueling seems like it’s pretty good. I need to schedule a dyno session to see what she makes.
@@cwhitty05 do make a video
@@jerryx2000 definitely will soon. Working on suspension part 2 now, then I’m doing a couple of bike maintenance videos soon too. Hopefully I can get some warm weather to go for a longer ride, and I’ll do a vlog.
its crazy that they charge you for software when you already bought their device,why not go to a dyno then and actually get a personalised optimised flash instead of those generic ones,pretty sure every bikes is a bit different
That is a little easier said than done. It depends on if you have a great tuner in your area. The last tuner I talked to told me it’s tough to tune Aprilia’s because most domestic tuning software companies like Woolich don’t have the interface to talk to the ECU. He said when you tune it, the ECU will slowly revert back to the original tune. Sounds like a load of shit to me, but I’m not a tuner.
@@cwhitty05 hahaha i don't know what advanced software aprilia might be using nowadays but it does sound stupid...that is some machine learning level shit :P
La mappa scaricata serviva per terminale originale… tu hai un terminale dekat… dovevi scegliere la seconda mappa…
Hey I recognize that area code. I’m in TR.
Nice! I’m over in Greer!
@@cwhitty05 not many V4s rolling around Greer. Nice taste in bikes. I ride a Panigale V4S.
@@richardmann4006 I sold the Tuono, and trying to figure out what I want next. Panigale is at the top of my list, but this will be a track-only bike, so I might get something a little less pretty and easier to throw down the track. Haven’t decided yet.
@@cwhitty05 you ever wanna test ride one that’s not bone stock hit me up!
Dont use std race map. Use gabro improved race map. No need to backup oem map either.
Yeah I know that now. My goal was to upgrade to the std race map, and use my one free Gabro map once I got the upgraded airbox. But I learned after uploading this video that Gabro’s airbox map wasn’t included in the one free map. So I switched to the basic Gabro map.
About to install airbox on my 22 Tuono
@@alangolightly9850 I never did get mine installed. I ended up selling the bike.
My second Tuono and neither one any problems. Love these bikes.
Wofür braucht ihr in den USA denn n ECU Flash?Für eure Geradeaus Straßen ist selbst das Moped Perlen vor die Säue..