Jane Fonda was great in this movie and in real life. Throughout the 1970's she was always against the establishment, the war in Vietnam and the government bullshit!! This does not make her a traitor, but simply a rebellious woman who spoke her mind openly about peace and freedom.
She was a company stooge. She represented the communists of the film industry who did not want the US to win the war. This is evident because she continued working in Hollywood, if Hollywood was pro freedom, pro US, she would have never been able to work in film again. She is an idiot and her masters are depraved, evil and anti freedom. The same Hollywood that has destroyed the morality of the world by glamourising violence, sex, drugs, alcohol, war and crime. As for her desire for PEACE, 30 million dead in the killing fields of Cambodia alone, 80 million in China and over 100 million dead in Russia, the US was trying to free Asia from its terror and she wanted them stopped and Asia enslaved. A big statement but true.
Turns out she was RIGHT about that damn war. We had NO business over there. I curse that jack ass Lyndon Johnson for not pulling us out. 55,000 + died over there.
I think Jane Fonda deserved her Oscar for this as equally as she did for Klute. I think Coming Home was an important movie and communicates with us even today about war and what it does to people.
I think both Jane and Jon Voight gave great performances and deserved Oscars for this movie. It was moving and truthful about Vets returning injured or worse and not having anyone to turn to. I applaud their performances and the director of this film.
Lovely scene -- very realistic. The director, Hal Ashby, gives the actors room to breathe. And they do. One of my favorite movies, though it has the ugliness of Vietnam hanging over it. This scene is sad, and very real. The next scene has them making love.
@stitchesful Well, considering that that storyline was generally her idea that she was trying to make into a movie since the early seventies, not to mention the fact that the story is based on the true story of Ron Kovic( Born on the Fourth of July), who she met in her activism in those years, and who befriended Fonda as well. Considering those facts, it makes perfect sense for her to be casted in that movie.
@ooks I agree. One of my favorite scenes of hers is when she is presenting her article about conditions at the VA hospitals to her friends at the Army club and they totally disregard her.
tell us all about it! Fascinating! I see myself as a young Jane Fonda, well not years and years younger, But, I am extremely interested in political things yet love acting, and singing. And am very feisty and opinionated.
yep! I would love to meet her. She is at the top of present day favorite actresses! I would love to go to a bible study with her! Or a church! I adore her!
@stitchesful I mean the photo of her sitting down on a shooter gun laughing and looking up to the sky, and the video of her doing that that got her in "trouble" in the first place. You'll read in her book that that was completely unintended.
@stitchesful It might help you to see this movie and to read her autobiography, "My Life So Far," where she bluntly explains what she did in Vietnam and how that photo and video affected her activism.
@bambarn5678 ---good points. But nearly all movies involve either intentional or unintentional inaccuracies orerrors, mainly to make the fils more entertaining.
@outinsider Yes, I'd like to see this movie and maybe I should read her autobiography before judging her. I guess you can say that I do have a predisposition to her because my mom really hated her for what she did. When you say "photo and video" do you mean the ones of her standing with HoChi Min?
@woods8870 That, she made this movie to express how seriously committed to the troops who suffered and continue from suffering from PTSD brought on by the Vietnam War?
so many people still hate jane fonda for what she did to the POWs in hanoi. But the message here is a good one. In the 1960s we evolved to a state where we realized we didint automatically have to fight in a war just because the governemnt told us to.
Explain this to the families who lost loved boys, killed over there, or came home damaged. She's laughing with our enemy as our boys (men) got slaughtered She should not have been allowed back into our country. As disgrace to our brave boys.
As do I, my friend, especially in the current climate in which the "peace" president continues and extends the aggression for which our government and nation is known throughout the Southern and Eastern hemispheres.
@outinsider No, the veterans certainly weren't hypocritical for protesting against a war they'd fought in. I agree that it wasn't a legitimate war, but She still should've known better than to have made that mistake. Even if she didn't mean for it to look like she was spitting on the troops, that's exactly the way it did look and the way she made many of the soldiers and vets feel. She may not have been the only one, but the Quakers didn't then star in a movie like this.
@stitchesful Did you know that she started her antiwar activism with Vietnam Veterans for Peace in the late 60s, early 70s? Are they hypocritical for being against a war they fought in? Vietnam was not a legitimate war, and Fonda and the other antiwar activists were on the right side of history, but she made an unregrettable mistake with the photo and the video, but it is not like she intended to look like she was spitting on the troops. She wasn't the only one either-Quakers did too.
@woods8870 ..exactly, blank absolute judgment. If you knew of the circumstance, it was indirectly staged and a picture and video was taken. Secondly, she went there to highlight the injustice of the Vietnam War on the innocent Vietnamese. Thirdly, all she did was humanize this "enemy" which just so happened to have profound respect for America and Americans. At the time of that picture and video, she had just seen them perform Death Of A Salesman. It's all in her autobiography.
Ms. Fonda now knows and understands that she was naive and misdirected in her views of that era, and she has repeatedly publicly apologized. Most people make a lot of mistakes in their twenties. She says she is following the teachings of Jesus Christ now. But those who refuse to forgive her do themselves-not her-a grave disservice. Hatred sucks.
@woods8870 Them being tortured was not at all due to that visit with them. When she did visit them, she gave them letters from their families, with the assurance that when she returned to the States, she would tell their families how they were, which she did. She had nothing to do with them being tortured. What you just said is chock full of misinformation. Read her autobiography, its all described there.
love the movie but the reality from a story from my cousin who was a GREEN BERET WAS WAY WAY WORSE THEN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE PEAC TO UU MICHAEL MY COUSIN N MUCH LOVE ANGEL
@ooks I think she is awkward is the first half of the film is because her character is your typical Army wife- just there and supporting of her husband, until she meets Luke at the VA hospital and literally becomes a compromise- wanting peace and the truth to come out about the government's views of Vietnam while supporting the troops for which her husband belongs to. She is incredibly moving. My favorite scene is when she wants to write a piece about the conditions of the VA hospitals.
@woods8870 And I suppose blank absolute judgment rather than exploring actual facts and making an informed opinion is more credible than an actual intelligent debate.
Even if Jane Fonda gave a great performance in this movie, I feel like it was a little hypocritical of her to be in a movie about the pain of Vietmam veterans. After all, she certainly didn't demonstrate much sympathy toward the vets or the soldiers when she stood toe to toe with Ho Chi Min. It's one thing not to believe in the war, but it's something else to betray everyone by making friends with the enemy.
I love her and I believe she is trying to follow Jesus Christ and was so happy to hear it. She apologized because Jesus told her to or influenced her too even if she was right. I adore the woman. I have watched her since I was a child. Beauty, brains, balls, talents-what a woman What a family to come from! Henry, Peter and Bridget. It don't get any better than that!
@outinsider I've seen various parts and sections of this movie, but I haven't seen it all the way through. But the basic plot is a hospital volunteer falling in love with a patient that's disabled from being in Vietnam, right? If that's the basic story line, then it is a movie that's stressing sympathy and respect for the vets and soldiers. I just don't feel that it made sense for Jane Fonda to star in a movie like this after what she did.
@woods8870 If you are going to condemn anybody, learn how to spell the word "traitors" correctly. Secondly, if you are going to condemn anybody, condemn Nixon, Johnson, and Kennedy for getting us involved in a war that should not have not have been fought. It is a shame that the troops suffered so much for a war that should have not been fought.
this is the deal with Hanoi jane..as with many of the kids produced by famous movie stars for that matter. if it wasn't for the fact that her dad was a world class actor and wealthy beyond dreams, she prolly would have been some drugged out flower girl in the 70's, but she was able to parlay her last name into acting and getting 1st rate scripts that other actors couldn't get....hell even tom hanks said half of being a good actor is getting a good script.
Why because she tried to understand the people Americans were murdering in a failed war? Jane Fonda has more integrity than the men in the charge who sent poor Americans over the ocean to die.
this is not about weather my dad is or isn't a Christian. she is loathed by I dare say 100,000's to million vets and active duty personnel alike. some actions you take you can never be forgiven for.
medicred92 You make no sense at all. Speaking out against a phony war is the very least you can do if you have a powerful celebrity voice that will reach millions. Also I do not know what rock you live under but 99% of the men who served in the Iraq/Afghanistan war do not even know who Jane Fonda is. Also most of the men who "hated" her during the Vietnam era are now dead or have for one reason or another are not really in touch with the issue anymore. You are clinging to something that is so far in the past. Why dont you watch Oliver Stones film Platoon and then rethink who is to blame for that war. 2 million Viatnamese people were killed in that war. You are so lost and are looking in the wrong place to place your blame for all of your misery.
Let me just say the following, been there during the war, and seen Jane with a Vietnamese pile hat of with the red star was no fun, to us she is a traitor.
Jon Voight is such a brilliant actor.
Too bad he became a staunch Trump supporter.
Nah... he just went with her flow
This is one of my all time favorites..The acting was great.Music was good. This film is so deep and touching to me.
I agree.
Jane Fonda was great in this movie and in real life. Throughout the 1970's she was always against the establishment, the war in Vietnam and the government bullshit!! This does not make her a traitor, but simply a rebellious woman who spoke her mind openly about peace and freedom.
She was a company stooge. She represented the communists of the film industry who did not want the US to win the war. This is evident because she continued working in Hollywood, if Hollywood was pro freedom, pro US, she would have never been able to work in film again. She is an idiot and her masters are depraved, evil and anti freedom. The same Hollywood that has destroyed the morality of the world by glamourising violence, sex, drugs, alcohol, war and crime. As for her desire for PEACE, 30 million dead in the killing fields of Cambodia alone, 80 million in China and over 100 million dead in Russia, the US was trying to free Asia from its terror and she wanted them stopped and Asia enslaved. A big statement but true.
Turns out she was RIGHT about that damn war. We had NO business over there. I curse that jack ass Lyndon Johnson for not pulling us out. 55,000 + died over there.
I think Jane Fonda deserved her Oscar for this as equally as she did for Klute. I think Coming Home was an important movie and communicates with us even today about war and what it does to people.
Nope Jill Clayburg for An Unmarried Woman deserved it.
Highly agreed! 👍🙂
Jane Fonda is a first class actress. I love her!
Shes also a lousy commie red.
She betrayed her country.
I think both Jane and Jon Voight gave great performances and deserved Oscars for this movie. It was moving and truthful about Vets returning injured or worse and not having anyone to turn to. I applaud their performances and the director of this film.
They won an Oscar for this movie.
Love this movie. Love her.
Jane Fonda still beautiful e John Voight too. Two greats talents. Condigns for Oscar the best actress e the best actor (1978) for "Coming Home".
Lovely scene -- very realistic. The director, Hal Ashby, gives the actors room to breathe. And they do. One of my favorite movies, though it has the ugliness of Vietnam hanging over it. This scene is sad, and very real. The next scene has them making love.
That love scene was just fantastic!
Look where she is now, and look where he is now.
I love love this scene...
John and Jane should have both won Oscars for this. She's heartbreakingly gentle and fantastic and he's amazing.
They did.
@@JamesWilliams-vo8ld
You couldn't resist
@stitchesful
Well, considering that that storyline was generally her idea that she was trying to make into a movie since the early seventies, not to mention the fact that the story is based on the true story of Ron Kovic( Born on the Fourth of July), who she met in her activism in those years, and who befriended Fonda as well. Considering those facts, it makes perfect sense for her to be casted in that movie.
me too! we need more like this!
I sure do!
she is a piece of shit. horrible person.
Who are you to judge?
My Life So Far by Jane Fonda, written in 2005. It's a great book.
In the book she spoke of her husband's dislike of the film because of the sex scene with Jon Voight!
@@mrs.847
And also Ashby's surprising failure to grasp the significance of this scene.
She's also very talented writer
love her!
Thank you, David George Mendard.
My favorite scene, I think
One of mine anyway.
Love her or hate her, one of the most beautiful women ever
Watch Klute!
Your opinion . She's ugly inside &,out. A traitor. Laughing with our enemy as our boys were slaughtered.
Never will be forgiven.
@ooks
I agree. One of my favorite scenes of hers is when she is presenting her article about conditions at the VA hospitals to her friends at the Army club and they totally disregard her.
And she calls them on of their heartless attitude.
love him
tell us all about it! Fascinating! I see myself as a young Jane Fonda, well not years and years younger, But, I am extremely interested in political things yet love acting, and singing. And am very feisty and opinionated.
where do i get this movie in full
awkward? NO WAY! She is an icon!
me too everything you said!
I was so happy to see the Oscars that night and see her win!
AMEN!
I want that book!
What book?
What a shame this brilliant masterpiece is not available to the public 😒
It's not?
A traitor. Won't watch anything she's in.
Oh yes it is available! I have it on DVD and the movie was even on TCM last night! 😮
and so is Angie!
she's not a traitor. she just spoke her mind.
she was phenomenal in this film and deserved this Oscar, her and Jon Voight both.
Yes bravo 👏
Sitting on our enemies tanks & laughing with our enemies as our boys were slaughtered. Get real
She's a traitor & a disgrace to our country.
and I will star!
What is name of song at the end of this section ? The Musicians names ?
you are fuggin right!
@listentome94 YES
I intend to get and read it!
yep! I would love to meet her. She is at the top of present day favorite actresses! I would love to go to a bible study with her! Or a church! I adore her!
really? wow!
@stitchesful
I mean the photo of her sitting down on a shooter gun laughing and looking up to the sky, and the video of her doing that that got her in "trouble" in the first place. You'll read in her book that that was completely unintended.
@stitchesful
It might help you to see this movie and to read her autobiography, "My Life So Far," where she bluntly explains what she did in Vietnam and how that photo and video affected her activism.
@woods8870
Right, well, did you know she started protesting the Vietnam War after actually talking to Vietnam Veterans who were against the war?
@SUNMAYDEN518 Both won!
And well deserved!
@Aqene1000
tim buckley sings Once I was
best voice ever.
@outinsider Oh, I figured that that's what you were talking about, but I wasn't sure. Didn't she formally apologize for doing that at some time?
she is an ARTIST. A damned good actress! And there was not a damn thing wrong with her playing Sally.
anyone know what the name of the Joplin tune is at the end of this scene?
"Call me"
@listentome94
UHM ABSOLUTELY
PianoMan1191 italiano
@bambarn5678 ---good points. But nearly all movies involve either intentional or unintentional inaccuracies orerrors, mainly to make the fils more entertaining.
Janis!
@outinsider Yes, I'd like to see this movie and maybe I should read her autobiography before judging her. I guess you can say that I do have a predisposition to her because my mom really hated her for what she did. When you say "photo and video" do you mean the ones of her standing with HoChi Min?
@stitchesful
Read the book, she "formally" addressed the matter countless of times.
@stitchesful
Question: Have you even seen this movie? Also, had she not made that "mistake," would the war still have ended?
@krunlove What are you talking about?
@woods8870
That, she made this movie to express how seriously committed to the troops who suffered and continue from suffering from PTSD brought on by the Vietnam War?
so many people still hate jane fonda for what she did to the POWs in hanoi. But the message here is a good one. In the 1960s we evolved to a state where we realized we didint automatically have to fight in a war just because the governemnt told us to.
Explain this to the families who lost loved boys, killed over there, or came home damaged. She's laughing with our enemy as our boys (men) got slaughtered
She should not have been allowed back into our country.
As disgrace to our brave boys.
As do I, my friend, especially in the current climate in which the "peace" president continues and extends the aggression for which our government and nation is known throughout the Southern and Eastern hemispheres.
@outinsider No, the veterans certainly weren't hypocritical for protesting against a war they'd fought in. I agree that it wasn't a legitimate war, but She still should've known better than to have made that mistake. Even if she didn't mean for it to look like she was spitting on the troops, that's exactly the way it did look and the way she made many of the soldiers and vets feel. She may not have been the only one, but the Quakers didn't then star in a movie like this.
@stitchesful
Did you know that she started her antiwar activism with Vietnam Veterans for Peace in the late 60s, early 70s? Are they hypocritical for being against a war they fought in? Vietnam was not a legitimate war, and Fonda and the other antiwar activists were on the right side of history, but she made an unregrettable mistake with the photo and the video, but it is not like she intended to look like she was spitting on the troops. She wasn't the only one either-Quakers did too.
@woods8870
..exactly, blank absolute judgment. If you knew of the circumstance, it was indirectly staged and a picture and video was taken. Secondly, she went there to highlight the injustice of the Vietnam War on the innocent Vietnamese. Thirdly, all she did was humanize this "enemy" which just so happened to have profound respect for America and Americans. At the time of that picture and video, she had just seen them perform Death Of A Salesman. It's all in her autobiography.
@outinsider I suppose.
Ms. Fonda now knows and understands that she was naive and misdirected in her views of that era, and she has repeatedly publicly apologized. Most people make a lot of mistakes in their twenties. She says she is following the teachings of Jesus Christ now. But those who refuse to forgive her do themselves-not her-a grave disservice. Hatred sucks.
👏
Unfortunately she's still very Left-wing and supports Biden.
@woods8870
Oh I see, you are one of those.
@woods8870
Them being tortured was not at all due to that visit with them. When she did visit them, she gave them letters from their families, with the assurance that when she returned to the States, she would tell their families how they were, which she did. She had nothing to do with them being tortured. What you just said is chock full of misinformation. Read her autobiography, its all described there.
Why is this dated 1978? Someone messed up bad! It was out between 1969 and 1972.
love the movie but the reality from a story from my cousin who was a GREEN BERET WAS WAY WAY WORSE THEN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE PEAC TO UU MICHAEL MY COUSIN N MUCH LOVE ANGEL
@ooks
I think she is awkward is the first half of the film is because her character is your typical Army wife- just there and supporting of her husband, until she meets Luke at the VA hospital and literally becomes a compromise- wanting peace and the truth to come out about the government's views of Vietnam while supporting the troops for which her husband belongs to. She is incredibly moving. My favorite scene is when she wants to write a piece about the conditions of the VA hospitals.
Even I have some conservative views!
Her character is awkward, she is not.
@woods8870
And I suppose blank absolute judgment rather than exploring actual facts and making an informed opinion is more credible than an actual intelligent debate.
Even if Jane Fonda gave a great performance in this movie, I feel like it was a little hypocritical of her to be in a movie about the pain of Vietmam veterans. After all, she certainly didn't demonstrate much sympathy toward the vets or the soldiers when she stood toe to toe with Ho Chi Min. It's one thing not to believe in the war, but it's something else to betray everyone by making friends with the enemy.
benedict arnold was a little but of a rebel also
She looked like Amy Adams
I love her and I believe she is trying to follow Jesus Christ and was so happy to hear it. She apologized because Jesus told her to or influenced her too even if she was right. I adore the woman. I have watched her since I was a child. Beauty, brains, balls, talents-what a woman What a family to come from! Henry, Peter and Bridget. It don't get any better than that!
@outinsider I've seen various parts and sections of this movie, but I haven't seen it all the way through. But the basic plot is a hospital volunteer falling in love with a patient that's disabled from being in Vietnam, right? If that's the basic story line, then it is a movie that's stressing sympathy and respect for the vets and soldiers. I just don't feel that it made sense for Jane Fonda to star in a movie like this after what she did.
my profile picture is in no way pornographic! You would need to ask her if she felt that the Holy Spirit led her to do that. Never you mind.
she believes she was totally wrong?
she didnt voight did
@woods8870
If you are going to condemn anybody, learn how to spell the word "traitors" correctly. Secondly, if you are going to condemn anybody, condemn Nixon, Johnson, and Kennedy for getting us involved in a war that should not have not have been fought. It is a shame that the troops suffered so much for a war that should have not been fought.
Most of the things I'm reading about her here about Vietnam are lies and gossip perpetrated by her detractors. The reality is much more mundane.
Hanoi Jane
that is so very sad to hear. I bet your father is a Christian? in the old school sense? SAD.
this is the deal with Hanoi jane..as with many of the kids produced by famous movie stars for that matter. if it wasn't for the fact that her dad was a world class actor and wealthy beyond dreams, she prolly would have been some drugged out flower girl in the 70's, but she was able to parlay her last name into acting and getting 1st rate scripts that other actors couldn't get....hell even tom hanks said half of being a good actor is getting a good script.
I can see why they call you Joker
Jesus disagrees with u and so do I!
Some one said, "we need to forgive," but did not Jesus say who the uk are you to tell God who needs to be forgiven."
man, so many are going to piss on her grave. what a hypocrite
Why because she tried to understand the people Americans were murdering in a failed war? Jane Fonda has more integrity than the men in the charge who sent poor Americans over the ocean to die.
this is not about weather my dad is or isn't a Christian. she is loathed by I dare say 100,000's to million vets and active duty personnel alike. some actions you take you can never be forgiven for.
medicred92 You make no sense at all. Speaking out against a phony war is the very least you can do if you have a powerful celebrity voice that will reach millions. Also I do not know what rock you live under but 99% of the men who served in the Iraq/Afghanistan war do not even know who Jane Fonda is.
Also most of the men who "hated" her during the Vietnam era are now dead or have for one reason or another are not really in touch with the issue anymore. You are clinging to something that is so far in the past.
Why dont you watch Oliver Stones film Platoon and then rethink who is to blame for that war. 2 million Viatnamese people were killed in that war.
You are so lost and are looking in the wrong place to place your blame for all of your misery.
if you speak like a traitor, walk like a traitor, your a traitor
She was a traitor and was called Hanoi Jane for a reason.
Let me just say the following, been there during the war, and seen Jane with a Vietnamese pile hat of with the red star was no fun, to us she is a traitor.