The last game I ever pre-ordered was Halo 3: ODST for the Sgt. Johnson skin. Walked into GameStop with $10 to save my copy, paid the rest on release day to pick it up. Nothing more, nothing less! Sadly, it's not that simple anymore.
People who always mismanaged money now cant do it anymore. You paid 15 bucks for a sandwitch? What are you fucking stupid? I can buy ten loafs of bread, cheese and meat and condiments for that money and feed myself for a month for that money.
Preordering shouldn’t be a standard practice for the gaming industry. It’s a very anti-consumer practice, that serves nothing to the customer. Whatever money you give a company for a product you have not received or been promised yet, you’re telling the company that their practices are acceptable. Whether they favour you or not.
I think there have been a case or two where the studio went bankrupt before they were able to honor their pre-order promises (A few weeks after initial release). Leaving the people who pre-paid for the DLC with nothing. I dunno if the publisher would then be on the hook to deliver.
@@kurtfrederiksen5538 I believe that they should be sued for that money for the customers. If they market that “If you pre-order, it will include ****” and the company don’t provide it, that is an infringement on Consumer Rights. Their poor money management is not the responsibility of the consumer.
@@OrkWarbossThrakka the problem is sue whom? The company has shut down, no longer exists and has no assets. Even if you did sue and win, it would be impossible to collect what you are owed. This is what we call litigation proof.
I’ve learned with battlefield 2042. Luckily enough I was wise enough to refund during beta. Never gonna pre order anything and coming a from an avid space marines 1 player I’m extremely excited for number 2 but I’m not pre ordering 😂
The PvP in SM1 was actually really good. Everything felt useful, as in, all the grenades, the combat stimms, the guns all felt good in their own way so you could really just use whatever suited your play style.
It was great but some minor gripes in my opinion were it generally felt pretty unbalanced and the ttk was really annoying and wayy too fast, which makes me nervous because I really hope they can make the classes balanced in game
This is absolutely the right mindset. I sat here and thought about justifying the price by the season pass and cosmetics or whatever but no matter what way i spun it in my mind, I could never accept giving over an additional $50 (ontop of the base price) just because i'd be able to play it for the weekend it before it's official launch - which they clearly did to make people want it more. remember we don't even know if this game is properly functional until it releases.... it's not like I need to list examples where that's happened in modern gaming from Triple A studios.
To be honest, I don't even see the point of Pre-ordering, there is very often no benefit whatsoever. Play the game a few days before release? That's stupid, even if I am very hyped for a game I never EVER pre order, I thanks No Man's Sky for this, and I LOVE the game but hated pre ordering it.
Pre ordering makes sense when you KNOW you're going to play and enjoy the game regardless. Like mass effect legendary Edition. I have thousands of hours in the original trilogy, you think I'm not gonna pre order the 4k remaster? Persona 3 Reload, a remake of my 2nd favorite game of all time I pre ordered because I knew I was gonna enjoy it. Pre Ordering makes sense when you're 100% confident in a particular game.
Tbf I had one time I did that and pre ordered very early. When it got to the week of early access I was so busy with work and never got to play it anyway early. I spent extra money for no reason lol.
@@PhthaloGreenskingood for you. But all of that bs you just said. Does not hold up against the actual problems. You're just telling the world that you enjoy mistreatment.
I'm from Russia. I pre-ordered the maximum version to support the Russian developers who are making this game here in Russia, in my city of St. Petersburg. The guys are trying hard, so I believe them.
@@Dis-Connecdead Man, they're programmers who make games 😆. How do they relate to the war? You watch too much propaganda on the news 🙃 They have the same relationship with modern warfare as you do with the Iraq war. 🤡
@@СтАрАеМсЯ-б5ы Tell that to the people from Atomic Heart who supported the war. Don't make me look like a clown, while you are believing people just because they are living in the same city as you. You're the whole circus my mate.
@@Dis-Connecdead Good. The United States has supported the most wars in the last 70 years, America has used slaves from Africa, trafficked people, killed Indians. Why are you buying games made by Americans?
Ultra addon is just a Power Armor Skin and a Heavy Bolter Skin, says so on the Focus Home website when you go to pre-order. Also its a 10USD price bump, which seems inline for a single skin set. Simple research.
Buy any game you like when they release, never pre order. I made that mistake with the dlc that Activision insists in calling a full game for MW2, the new one. I will definitely buy space marine 2 when it comes out completely
B2P game battle passes should be the same as Helldivers 2, where if you bought it it's yours and you can decide when you want to play and progress in it, 0 FOMO, FOMO sucks.
@@Meekoid Being a person with a functioning brain shouldn't be praise worthy, but then again you demonstrate that AAA companies grooming their fans into giving money they do not deserve is still a very incentivised strategy.
You guys know damn well that fromsoft is the only developer currently doing more and more than the community could ever ask for. Pre ordering from them has guaranteed money well spent
I was gonna preorder SM2. I wanted to sooo bad simply because I was blinded by my love for 40K. It looks beautiful, fun, it's a sequel to a badass game, plus all the bonus cosmetics and perks got me excited. But after seeing everyone talking about not preordering and taking into consideration my experiences with preordering and the general climate in the gaming community as far as buying games, I am no longer blind. If we truly want big companies to listen to us and deliver what we ask for at a price we deserve, we have to deny them our money and our clientele. Make them work for it, don't pre-order, don't give in, as much as you want to.
No need to buy early access, we already got the "early access". The game is running around the web fully playable, I will not say that I stayed late last night playing the game, but I stayed late last night playing the game 🤓 It is amazing! I will buy it on steam later on.
so wait... your trashing on a season pass because it only gives you cosmetics? you do know if they charged money that would make a 60$ game pay to win? ya I get not pre ordering or not wanting a season pass but just because you don't want something doesn't mean that its not one of the best thing in AAA history for the past 4 years because idk its not pay to win? why is that bad?
I don't think he's aware that the season pass for the DLC is in the game. I imagine the Space Marine super fans will be buying it, I've not got an issue with that.
no hes mad that the company is pratically making u pay extra to play the game early and finds it stupid that people are preordering it now when we havent seen much of the game what is everything else like the dlc and season pass can be purchased out of preorder? they only thing u get for the money u spend is a messly cosmetic pack and a 4 down payment what if it ends up Like SSKTJL where the servers dont work and launch is horrible? wasting so much money to not even get what u paid for! if u preorder it for playstation thats a different story u get figures and all (IRL things) but for me in malaysia i am not play 300 rm for early access and 3 cosmetics sure i will pre order the basic game where i get the dlc for 169rm but i am not spending 259 for early access and season pass! cause i can get seaon pass for sure in game laster and i am sure as hell not getting a champions pack with 3 items that will bring the total to 300rm wasting money!
@alexshaw4182 the dlc is understand able if u read the full thing I typed Imagine paying 300 usd for at most 4 days of early access and some glorified cosmetics
I don’t pre order games unless I absolutely know it’ll be something I like. I know very little about 40k, I watched a couple videos to learn about it because my friends and I want to play this game. If I do pre order it’ll be close to release.
There are two reasons why I won't buy the ultimate edition. 1) I'm not spending money on cosmetics, I stopped doing that when I dropped League of Legends. 2) I'm salty that there are no Lamenters cosmetics.
Don't care. Pre ordered the collector's edition a year ago. Forgot to mention, they don't even make you pay yet. I literally just got the email saying they'll bill me for it next week
I preordered literally a couple hours ago, 1 day before release. Only because im working all week on release week so i wanted to get some gaming in beforehand
i really wish they did the same pre-order style form Space Marine 1, depending where you preordered from, you got a special chapter cosmetic. If i remember correctly, i ordered form gamestop to get the Space wolves skin.
Gold edition is not "to play the game 4 days early". It contains season pass which is worth the extra 30$ and that 4 day early access is labeled as "pre-order bonus". And noone is forcing you to buy the golden edition, so I see no point in complaining. I preordered standard edition (this is first time I preordered a game), because I knew I would buy it anyway, and it also gives you some extra cosmetic DLC. And don't forget that although this game costs 60$, it is a FINISHED game unlike other AAA games.
It looks really good and I’m planning to play it with the boys when it releases, but I’m not preordering. If I decide I want the season pass, I’ll buy it later.
honestly bro you cooked with this vid. subscribing, you single-handly saved me from a preorder I was actually thinking about going for. I still have faith in this game, though, hopefully in the coming months what more information we're told and shown will look just as good as the other trailers Edit: I caved I pre-ordered.
dude same i will wait and see if the game is good and untouched by the warp's corruption. if yes i will buy it but if not then i'll aways have boltgun and space marine 1 to play
As a dude whos player SM1 PvP, shit was fun and relatively balanced, rounds weren't too long or short and people of all skills levels had good fun killing and being killed. That being said, I'm just waiting for the standard edition when it releases because I'm poor 👌🏼
Imo if you support a system, then go out and complain about such system while still supporting that same system, your opinion is null. Im so sick of these youtube videos that complain about some mtx store a game has, while at the same time having a fully kitted out character with all of the newest store items. I bet you the same thing will happen with SM2. The game will turn out bad or something and all youtubers will complain about it. But you know that most of them are going to be rocking those same pre-order exclusive items.
I only purchase physical copies (if I can help it) of games. So the extra money gets put towards the Steelbook case which I'm a sucker for Steelbook cases. So I'm getting something extra for the game, but digital purchasers are getting ripped.
IThe only company I have ever preordered a game from is Larian (Baldur's Gate III) but Larian is a special case. I'd never preorder game from an AAA publisher or a company which has not earned our trust (like in this case) yet. Still hyped for this game and very likely to buy it, though. But no way I pay even the amount for the regular edition before I haven't seen some unbiased reviews of the release version.
Preordering is bad period. But nowadays I think the issue has grown beyond preordering stuff and into everything having live service "support". If anything I'd say backpedal and preorder as much as you want. Then never buy anything pushed by live services like season passes, cosmetics, and whatever other overpriced junk they peddle on you. I only recommend that to anyone that actually buys into live service stuff though. Either way YOU still shouldn't but someone will
2:09 To be fair. Wearing pre-order exclusive items is cringe as hell during the first month of a game. When it starts to shine however is in like 1-5 years when most people have moved on. Just nice to have a little "I was here since launch" and/or a "I was here during the beta" ( Unfortunately space marine 2 beta was canceled :( )
You have a lot of "youth" and impatient people who simply cannot wait for anything and absolutely need to have it ASAP. Those same people will be the ones whining and crying about day one bugs and glitches though.
For one not everyone plays Xbox for two some people prefer specials on specific systems and 3 not all games come to game pass I have multiple systems including a Xbox even if this is on game pass I’m still buying it on ps5
@@ZHBraden13 Ah yes, the "the opposing side is just a bunch of kids and people that have no reasoning", you kind of just prove your ignorance out the gate man.
I feel like the reason they don’t do demos any more because if they know if there game is bad they know people won’t buy it at all I haven’t seen a demo for a game in a long time now
Because simps ruined gaming look at them all in the comments various reasons to do the same dumb thing. I will wait around to watch it fail and play my old games from a distance come out on discount for $20 I might pick it up. Grown ass men Simping over playing dress up as a space marine in a video game fucking sad. I might start my own gaming company one day that sells no games just pre orders.
Only the good and passionate projects get demos. Example - Stellar Blade. It was a great game and have a great demo that sold the game for anyone on the fence about buying.
The thing is, the people that are gonna complain are the casuals that aren’t gonna stick around so don’t even bother wasting your time or money. I’m gonna preorder the gold edition purely to support warhammer and to support saber interactive. I don’t really care what whiney ass babies have to say. I hope they don’t play it.
Last time I pre-ordered a game, a major part of why I was willing to do so was the fact that the pre-order bonus was an early-buyer bonus and carried over for a week after the game's release, I actively went out of my way to give additional support to the devs *BECAUSE* they made it easy not to feel pressure to do so.
I’ve preordered it, cause I have a good feeling bout that like, you know I’ve preorded just like two games my whole life no man’s sky and cyberpunk so trust me I have good taste when it comes to stuff like that. Also what’s up with the Canadian dollar those prices sound ludicrous
Did anyone know about the pc config ? I'm curious they seemed to not disclosed it . Either they working on optimizing it or they don't have a fully stabilised gameplay with pc .
Here in the UK, I managed to pre order the ultra edition for £60. Which, in todays market, is an absolutely insane deal for the most expensive edition of a game.
Bought the collector's, Your reasoning isnt great tbh. You repeat yourself twice about the season pass. Which they said it was cosmetic only, lol. Plus They confirmed to have multiple factions you can customize and play as. On top of that if you actually read specs. It says co-op has endless replay. All about research. Which is what i suggest you did before this video w no open proof. Yeah your right isnt gonna stop. Your argument wasnt compelling enough nor did you have the actually facts to back it up, because you openly admitted you knew of Saber but never played their games. All in all i suggest get more about the verse then come back.
Your arguments aren’t better though. They can say all the shit that they want in the description of their game, doesn’t mean it’s gonna be great. Just like Bethesda advertising fallout 76 or Starfield as the best game of this decade. Preordering is always wrong, even if the game turns out to be the best game ever made. It’s just gambling, and the only way to win at gambling is not paying
I pre-ordered the physical gold edition because i really wanted the limited steelbook. Also season passes are usually 30-40 extra anyways, maybe half when on sale. So ultimately I feel like getting a steelbook, a season pass, and getting the game nearly a week early makes it worth the extra 30-40 bucks
It's guna launch janky, you don't cancel a beta to identify and fix problems last min. That's why you have a beta to begin with. They're crunching to finish up production before release. I'm sure it'll be fine down the road but I don't see a strong launch for this games multiplayer
Quite a lot of people are discouraging pre-ordering games, some for arguably irrelevant reasons, others for totally relevant ones. All that really needs to be said about preordering is that you as a grown adult work hard for your money and should be capable of making your own decisions on what ways to spend it. Preorders only offer minimal incentives but do actually go a long way for the development of a game as a larger percentage of that purchase goes to the developer themselves, this helps to build revenue for future projects or current ones. Being open minded, well-informed and capable of fact checking things for yourself are crucial skills and attributes that need to be used when making decisions about your money and how you spend it.The underlying fact is to think for yourself when deciding on what your money is worth spending on as the consequences of your poor financial decisions fall upon you and you alone.
Preordering is ALWAYS a mistake because if they get paid automatically upon delivering the product, the incentive is to stop working on sellability of it, quality of it, amount of it, and get it out the door asap.
@@86Corvus when a developer wants to create a game, they go to a publisher or a publisher goes to them with an offer, if the developer accepts the offer it means they owe back what the publisher gives them for the game. Preorders allow developers to invest more money into the game as they develop it so that they don’t have to owe more money to their publisher and in this case, the licensing fees for IP.
@anchorsaway1gaming nope, I didn't like helldivers 2 but just from what I see alone helldivers 2 offers more action than you'll ever see in SM 2 ... I don't make the rules Cry more
I'll probably just do what I did with armored core 6 and hold of on pre-ordering till the final day that way I can see what the people playing with the early access.
I just say "anticipate" seems curse dawg Remember starcraft ,starwars ,halo 2020 and hd2 Those rise as high but someday fell from grace I dont want to say hd2 or lethal company or palworld Sure they can fly high but someday will fall
I’m in the same boat as you. The game looks great and I’m hype as fuck but I’m waiting for the beta. I don’t even need to play it personally, I just want to see lengthy consecutive gameplay that real players have access to.
Pre ordering was something that you could trust some years ago, it actually worked to do that, now it’s just bullshit. I am not talking shit about space marine 2 it’s looks awesome. But I can’t trust anyone, last 5 games within 4 years I preordered was just shit experience. Miss the old days
People seem to forget that Saber interactive just spent millions, buying their freedom from Embracer Group. To avoid not only shutting down, but also so this game could actually be released. Not to mention the cost of making something from an IP, that isn't their own. In truth the 4 day early access isn't the main point of the gold edition, it's the season pass. Ontop of this Saber as been open that a good portion of DLC items, will end up being free. Such as the 3 player PvE co-op missions, and a majority of cosmetics will end up free as well. With all this in mind, Saber NEEDS this game to do well, and the pricing points are the lowest they're able to go from a business perspective. If you can't afford the Gold or Ultra edition, then you don't need it, it's as simple as that. Speaking as someone on disability, which is a fixed income, I have to be choosey on what I spend my limited funds on. Yet despite that, having done the research, and knowing the circumstances of the studio, I don't see any issue with the pricing points. Again, given the studios circumstances, they probably need this to be a success in order to stay afloat.
Even in debt, I still serve! No but for real I’ve been waiting for this game ever since I beat the first game when I was a kid. Really high hopes for this game!
I don’t want to support preordering and don’t care about season passes. I’m excited for the game but can I still get the Plume champion pack (ultra addition) items when the game releases? I fking love Roman helmet plumes….
After preordering cyberpunk for the ps4 and returning it after game breaking bugs I became the type of person who waits for the game to be free or at a 60% discount. This is the only game I preordered since then just to support it.
I bought the game one day before the Early Access launch. Mainly because i saw people streaming the game, and i could make a more educated decision on wether i wanted to buy it or not. People should do this more often
Tbh based on the information that we know so far, the game doesn't even nearly justify it's 59,99€ pricetag, not to mention the EA tags 89,99€ / 99,99€. According to what the devs said, the main campaign will be like approx. 10-20 hours long (mainly depends on the difficulty you play on), then it will have that separate 3 player coop mode, which will only have 6 missions at start, and one mission will take like 30mins - 1hours to complete (also depends on the difficulty), and the PvP mode, in which I'm not really interested in, but that's just me. So if we add these up, let's say it will take 20 hours to complete the campaign + 1 hour per coop mission, that equals a total of 26 hours only if we count with the maximum time it takes to complete the PvE part of the game. Ofc there will be some sort of replayability to upgrade your gear, weapons etc, but that's another topic. So the pricetag per hour ratio is a bit off imho. Realistically it's a 35-40€ title tops. Having said that, I haven't pre-ordered it, and will hold on with the day1 buy as well. We'll see how it goes, but personally I'll prolly gonna wait to see how it goes, and get it on discount. If it will be worth getting at all that is.
I agree that preordering without seeing gameplay is a bad idea. But now that the gameplay of creators has been published, it's safe to say that the game will be good and pre-ordering at this stage is fine.
Us in NZ and Aussie do get shafted pretty hard with our pricing like you said. I am concerned that the cross play implementation hasn't been spelled out so I don't even know if I will be able to play with all my mates across PC, Xbox, PS5 or whether it will be silod as the term "crossplay" can mean everything and nothing these days.
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anyone remember how pre-ordering took off 10% from the cost price back in the day?
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Yea, that's a 1990-2005 or so thing.
No actually is don’t i didn’t start preordering until I turned 19 or 20
Yea and the games would be finished
The last game I ever pre-ordered was Halo 3: ODST for the Sgt. Johnson skin. Walked into GameStop with $10 to save my copy, paid the rest on release day to pick it up. Nothing more, nothing less! Sadly, it's not that simple anymore.
I don't know what's worse, the game costing 90 dollars or the fact that $45 dollars only gets you 3 footlongs these days
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The base game is $60 bucks and the gold edition is $90 (if we are talking usd)
People who always mismanaged money now cant do it anymore. You paid 15 bucks for a sandwitch? What are you fucking stupid? I can buy ten loafs of bread, cheese and meat and condiments for that money and feed myself for a month for that money.
The latter, for many reasons
You don't pre-order a game because it's a bad idea. There. I saved you 7 minutes. You. Are. Welcome.
Ignoring the additional point that this cancerous trend in games is becoming a clear red flag for releases and companies need to stop doing it
thank you because I thought he was giving valid input on the game instead he's coping about prices in his region on loop
Not a bad idea to support a game and developers you love
@@brandonfrye2902 you can still support them after the game comes out and you make you sure that you still love the game and developers.
@@KC80SiX pre ordering a game early quite literally gives the dev team more resources to improve the game before launch. That’s my point.
Preordering shouldn’t be a standard practice for the gaming industry. It’s a very anti-consumer practice, that serves nothing to the customer. Whatever money you give a company for a product you have not received or been promised yet, you’re telling the company that their practices are acceptable. Whether they favour you or not.
I think there have been a case or two where the studio went bankrupt before they were able to honor their pre-order promises (A few weeks after initial release). Leaving the people who pre-paid for the DLC with nothing. I dunno if the publisher would then be on the hook to deliver.
@@kurtfrederiksen5538 I believe that they should be sued for that money for the customers. If they market that “If you pre-order, it will include ****” and the company don’t provide it, that is an infringement on Consumer Rights. Their poor money management is not the responsibility of the consumer.
@@OrkWarbossThrakka the problem is sue whom? The company has shut down, no longer exists and has no assets. Even if you did sue and win, it would be impossible to collect what you are owed. This is what we call litigation proof.
@@kurtfrederiksen5538 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
no one ordered a yappachino
Never pre-order, it's such a bad idea.
Not only that but you are literally making video games worse for all of us.
I’ve learned with battlefield 2042. Luckily enough I was wise enough to refund during beta. Never gonna pre order anything and coming a from an avid space marines 1 player I’m extremely excited for number 2 but I’m not pre ordering 😂
Im pre ordering lol
@@Meekoid Hope that goes well for you.
@@Meekoid if the game turns out to be absolute dogwater, Ill at least take comfort in this comment. Thank you.
The PvP in SM1 was actually really good. Everything felt useful, as in, all the grenades, the combat stimms, the guns all felt good in their own way so you could really just use whatever suited your play style.
And playing and Orks and Eldar was really wild and fun!
@@dagoth-ursbeekeeper9119 only Space Marines in SM1. You’re thinking of Eternal Crusade.
It was great but some minor gripes in my opinion were it generally felt pretty unbalanced and the ttk was really annoying and wayy too fast, which makes me nervous because I really hope they can make the classes balanced in game
Good. Don't pre-order anything.
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i didnt want to but i was an idiot and did
@@mrmemes170 pobodys nerfect
This is absolutely the right mindset.
I sat here and thought about justifying the price by the season pass and cosmetics or whatever but no matter what way i spun it in my mind, I could never accept giving over an additional $50 (ontop of the base price) just because i'd be able to play it for the weekend it before it's official launch - which they clearly did to make people want it more.
remember we don't even know if this game is properly functional until it releases.... it's not like I need to list examples where that's happened in modern gaming from Triple A studios.
To be honest, I don't even see the point of Pre-ordering, there is very often no benefit whatsoever. Play the game a few days before release? That's stupid, even if I am very hyped for a game I never EVER pre order, I thanks No Man's Sky for this, and I LOVE the game but hated pre ordering it.
No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk's release has me waiting 6 months to a year after release for games now.
Pre ordering makes sense when you KNOW you're going to play and enjoy the game regardless. Like mass effect legendary Edition. I have thousands of hours in the original trilogy, you think I'm not gonna pre order the 4k remaster? Persona 3 Reload, a remake of my 2nd favorite game of all time I pre ordered because I knew I was gonna enjoy it. Pre Ordering makes sense when you're 100% confident in a particular game.
Tbf I had one time I did that and pre ordered very early. When it got to the week of early access I was so busy with work and never got to play it anyway early. I spent extra money for no reason lol.
Watchdogs 1 is to thank for my "wait one month after release" policy.
@@PhthaloGreenskingood for you. But all of that bs you just said. Does not hold up against the actual problems. You're just telling the world that you enjoy mistreatment.
I only pre-order when there's a collector's edition I want and that's really rare for me
The multiplayer for SM1 is still up on pc btw.
And more active than you'd probably expect.
@@Itz2Cat Yup I've been playing regularly and have no problem finding matches
@@Space_G00Nsame lol
When do you all find matches I was playing at 12 in the morning yesterday and no one was on
@@ysisir11 Play seize ground
Me who already preordered the full edition ''hmmm interesting''
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Sheep
@@Wonback I think the majority of people didn’t preorder so really anyone who didn’t is an actual sheep
@@ethanmorris8961 Keep trying to convince yourself
@@Wonback bro heard sheep once and thought "yeah I'm gonna use that whenever someone does something I disagree with"
I'm from Russia. I pre-ordered the maximum version to support the Russian developers who are making this game here in Russia, in my city of St. Petersburg. The guys are trying hard, so I believe them.
Do you know if they are supporting the war in any way ?
@@Dis-Connecdead Man, they're programmers who make games 😆. How do they relate to the war? You watch too much propaganda on the news 🙃 They have the same relationship with modern warfare as you do with the Iraq war. 🤡
@@СтАрАеМсЯ-б5ы Tell that to the people from Atomic Heart who supported the war. Don't make me look like a clown, while you are believing people just because they are living in the same city as you. You're the whole circus my mate.
@@Dis-Connecdead Good. The United States has supported the most wars in the last 70 years, America has used slaves from Africa, trafficked people, killed Indians. Why are you buying games made by Americans?
@@Dis-Connecdead Do you ask that on every US game developer?
Ultra addon is just a Power Armor Skin and a Heavy Bolter Skin, says so on the Focus Home website when you go to pre-order. Also its a 10USD price bump, which seems inline for a single skin set. Simple research.
I'm preordering cuz the day it comes back I'm back at school, I at least want to be able to start playing the game those few extra days
valid
Same sep 5 is my Friday at work get home play 2 days den call off my 1st day of the work week 😎
You got got.
That means it’s not your money sonny 😂 so of course you don’t care paying 140$ for 4 days of gaming
@@fabolousjada5070 technically you're right cuz my friend got me to gold edition for my birthday
Oh man I’m so glad I preordered this games amazing
Buy any game you like when they release, never pre order. I made that mistake with the dlc that Activision insists in calling a full game for MW2, the new one. I will definitely buy space marine 2 when it comes out completely
I preordered twice just to make up for you not doing so
Preorder for me too ! I won’t be feel bad for pirating it after lol
That’s the spirit!
@@CaptainRx-ss3rt it will have denuvo, so the pirated version will not exist lol, and nobody is cracking denuvo
@@elfua7347bet
Do it for me 2
B2P game battle passes should be the same as Helldivers 2, where if you bought it it's yours and you can decide when you want to play and progress in it, 0 FOMO, FOMO sucks.
I didn't even pre-order Elden Ring dlc.
@@LyraniaLothar give this man a medal holy fuck
@@Meekoid Being a person with a functioning brain shouldn't be praise worthy, but then again you demonstrate that AAA companies grooming their fans into giving money they do not deserve is still a very incentivised strategy.
You guys know damn well that fromsoft is the only developer currently doing more and more than the community could ever ask for. Pre ordering from them has guaranteed money well spent
@@Nolle69_ even then. They aren't going bankrupt anytime soon.
Pay at release.
@@Nolle69_ no. I don't want them getting complacent.
I regret that I not only got this video but also that i watched it. No thx my guy
I was gonna preorder SM2. I wanted to sooo bad simply because I was blinded by my love for 40K. It looks beautiful, fun, it's a sequel to a badass game, plus all the bonus cosmetics and perks got me excited. But after seeing everyone talking about not preordering and taking into consideration my experiences with preordering and the general climate in the gaming community as far as buying games, I am no longer blind.
If we truly want big companies to listen to us and deliver what we ask for at a price we deserve, we have to deny them our money and our clientele. Make them work for it, don't pre-order, don't give in, as much as you want to.
I preordered the most expensive bundle on steam because I’m an adult with a job
And not responsible 😅
@@TouYube886 just say your poor bro
I did the same
Same
God emperor, this is cringe
Well I waited 12 years for a sequel. I preordered already
Chump.
Why not wait another few months then
@@TV-cv1eb nope
No need to buy early access, we already got the "early access". The game is running around the web fully playable, I will not say that I stayed late last night playing the game, but I stayed late last night playing the game 🤓 It is amazing! I will buy it on steam later on.
so wait... your trashing on a season pass because it only gives you cosmetics? you do know if they charged money that would make a 60$ game pay to win? ya I get not pre ordering or not wanting a season pass but just because you don't want something doesn't mean that its not one of the best thing in AAA history for the past 4 years because idk its not pay to win? why is that bad?
I don't think he's aware that the season pass for the DLC is in the game. I imagine the Space Marine super fans will be buying it, I've not got an issue with that.
no hes mad that the company is pratically making u pay extra to play the game early and finds it stupid that people are preordering it now when we havent seen much of the game what is everything else like the dlc and season pass can be purchased out of preorder? they only thing u get for the money u spend is a messly cosmetic pack and a 4 down payment what if it ends up Like SSKTJL where the servers dont work and launch is horrible? wasting so much money to not even get what u paid for! if u preorder it for playstation thats a different story u get figures and all (IRL things) but for me in malaysia i am not play 300 rm for early access and 3 cosmetics sure i will pre order the basic game where i get the dlc for 169rm but i am not spending 259 for early access and season pass! cause i can get seaon pass for sure in game laster and i am sure as hell not getting a champions pack with 3 items that will bring the total to 300rm wasting money!
Those DLC also could be new maps in co-op mode(Vermintide sells new maps as dlc too).
@@MrDino10K The 'extra' is mostly concerned with the future DLC, the 4 day save is a minor part of that extra.
@alexshaw4182 the dlc is understand able if u read the full thing I typed Imagine paying 300 usd for at most 4 days of early access and some glorified cosmetics
I don’t pre order games unless I absolutely know it’ll be something I like. I know very little about 40k, I watched a couple videos to learn about it because my friends and I want to play this game. If I do pre order it’ll be close to release.
heracy. for the emperor. may chaos burn to sunder
There are two reasons why I won't buy the ultimate edition.
1) I'm not spending money on cosmetics, I stopped doing that when I dropped League of Legends.
2) I'm salty that there are no Lamenters cosmetics.
Just like season one is about ultramarines successor chapters, I imagine Lamenters would be when Blood Angels season comes.
wait no lamenters?
Do we Lamenter players only exist to SUFFER? Oh wait... yeah we do
Don't care. Pre ordered the collector's edition a year ago. Forgot to mention, they don't even make you pay yet. I literally just got the email saying they'll bill me for it next week
Dumb*ss
A proud fool makes you even dumber.
Cant wait for my little diorama to arrive.
Chump.
i always pre order...24hours before launch lol
I preordered literally a couple hours ago, 1 day before release. Only because im working all week on release week so i wanted to get some gaming in beforehand
Lol. I preordered the collector’s edition primarily because I wanted the the baller statue of Titus throtling a nid.
I will wait for a steam season sale, I'm tired of this greedy companies
i really wish they did the same pre-order style form Space Marine 1, depending where you preordered from, you got a special chapter cosmetic. If i remember correctly, i ordered form gamestop to get the Space wolves skin.
This is the first game I preordered because I want.
Gold edition is not "to play the game 4 days early". It contains season pass which is worth the extra 30$ and that 4 day early access is labeled as "pre-order bonus". And noone is forcing you to buy the golden edition, so I see no point in complaining. I preordered standard edition (this is first time I preordered a game), because I knew I would buy it anyway, and it also gives you some extra cosmetic DLC. And don't forget that although this game costs 60$, it is a FINISHED game unlike other AAA games.
Im just hoping I can play as the Thousand Sons in pvp
We hope it is a FINISHED game. That is what many are worried about
Bruh they literally said they cancelled the demo to polish it more y'all just making shit up
If you pre-order, you're a chump.
@@GamerSingularityguess I'm a chump
It looks really good and I’m planning to play it with the boys when it releases, but I’m not preordering. If I decide I want the season pass, I’ll buy it later.
honestly bro you cooked with this vid. subscribing, you single-handly saved me from a preorder I was actually thinking about going for. I still have faith in this game, though, hopefully in the coming months what more information we're told and shown will look just as good as the other trailers
Edit: I caved I pre-ordered.
dude same i will wait and see if the game is good and untouched by the warp's corruption. if yes i will buy it but if not then i'll aways have boltgun and space marine 1 to play
Same.
As a dude whos player SM1 PvP, shit was fun and relatively balanced, rounds weren't too long or short and people of all skills levels had good fun killing and being killed.
That being said, I'm just waiting for the standard edition when it releases because I'm poor 👌🏼
Imo if you support a system, then go out and complain about such system while still supporting that same system, your opinion is null.
Im so sick of these youtube videos that complain about some mtx store a game has, while at the same time having a fully kitted out character with all of the newest store items.
I bet you the same thing will happen with SM2. The game will turn out bad or something and all youtubers will complain about it. But you know that most of them are going to be rocking those same pre-order exclusive items.
I only purchase physical copies (if I can help it) of games. So the extra money gets put towards the Steelbook case which I'm a sucker for Steelbook cases. So I'm getting something extra for the game, but digital purchasers are getting ripped.
Redfall taught me I'm never pre-ordering again
BTW has anyone noticed there's HUD in the footage they've shown thusfar?
This has been the only game I've pre ordered in my life
Remember when it was 5$ for a foot long from subway?
IThe only company I have ever preordered a game from is Larian (Baldur's Gate III) but Larian is a special case. I'd never preorder game from an AAA publisher or a company which has not earned our trust (like in this case) yet.
Still hyped for this game and very likely to buy it, though. But no way I pay even the amount for the regular edition before I haven't seen some unbiased reviews of the release version.
nah got the $100 pre order for all the extra shit i get in game
same here...i know i will love this game
Sheepeople are easy to herd.
@@GamerSingularityunlike wolfs like you 😂
Theres a season pass like there overlooking that part?
@@GamerSingularitypoor
Preordering is bad period. But nowadays I think the issue has grown beyond preordering stuff and into everything having live service "support". If anything I'd say backpedal and preorder as much as you want. Then never buy anything pushed by live services like season passes, cosmetics, and whatever other overpriced junk they peddle on you. I only recommend that to anyone that actually buys into live service stuff though. Either way YOU still shouldn't but someone will
2:09 To be fair. Wearing pre-order exclusive items is cringe as hell during the first month of a game. When it starts to shine however is in like 1-5 years when most people have moved on. Just nice to have a little "I was here since launch" and/or a "I was here during the beta" ( Unfortunately space marine 2 beta was canceled :( )
I stopped pre-ordering games after the cyberpunk debacle. Maybe even before. There were a couple other games that didn’t live up to the hype.
Why pre order when you can try it for 10 dollars on game pass first
You have a lot of "youth" and impatient people who simply cannot wait for anything and absolutely need to have it ASAP. Those same people will be the ones whining and crying about day one bugs and glitches though.
For one not everyone plays Xbox for two some people prefer specials on specific systems and 3 not all games come to game pass I have multiple systems including a Xbox even if this is on game pass I’m still buying it on ps5
@@aRayGunMaloriangame pass is on PC and Xbox which is a lot of the player base. Space marine 2 is coming to game pass day 1
@@ZHBraden13 Ah yes, the "the opposing side is just a bunch of kids and people that have no reasoning", you kind of just prove your ignorance out the gate man.
@@ZHBraden13 thats me yep😭😭
Bro was so wrong, this game slapped right out of the gate and worked really well!
After playing the leak...I'm pre-ordering lmao
Chump.
I feel like the reason they don’t do demos any more because if they know if there game is bad they know people won’t buy it at all I haven’t seen a demo for a game in a long time now
I only really see it with AA game now, especially boomer or retro shooters.
@@evolgenius1150 yea that’s crazy
Because simps ruined gaming look at them all in the comments various reasons to do the same dumb thing. I will wait around to watch it fail and play my old games from a distance come out on discount for $20 I might pick it up. Grown ass men Simping over playing dress up as a space marine in a video game fucking sad. I might start my own gaming company one day that sells no games just pre orders.
@@kidink-_3782 what about the 1 yr old leaked build
it plays good even if its 1 year old
Only the good and passionate projects get demos.
Example - Stellar Blade. It was a great game and have a great demo that sold the game for anyone on the fence about buying.
The thing is, the people that are gonna complain are the casuals that aren’t gonna stick around so don’t even bother wasting your time or money. I’m gonna preorder the gold edition purely to support warhammer and to support saber interactive. I don’t really care what whiney ass babies have to say. I hope they don’t play it.
Short version: i'm broke
Only chumps pre-order.
So I'm confused. If you don't like getting the higher priced edition of the game, then just don't just wait and buy the standard edition
Cope much. This game will be awesome.
Simp much?
Legendary comment idk why he’s comparing it to suicide squad 😂😂😂😂
But you can't know that it will be. It's the much safer option to just wait until it comes out.
Last time I pre-ordered a game, a major part of why I was willing to do so was the fact that the pre-order bonus was an early-buyer bonus and carried over for a week after the game's release, I actively went out of my way to give additional support to the devs *BECAUSE* they made it easy not to feel pressure to do so.
I’ve preordered it, cause I have a good feeling bout that like, you know I’ve preorded just like two games my whole life no man’s sky and cyberpunk so trust me I have good taste when it comes to stuff like that. Also what’s up with the Canadian dollar those prices sound ludicrous
"I’ve preordered it, cause I have a good feeling bout that"
~ Every single pre-order buyer
"Wake up cowboy"
*Random car falls out of the sky and explodes
*bass drop
😅@@Klongu_Da_Bongu
Seeing stuff like this just makes me sad.
Proceeds to then name off no man's sky and fucking cyberpunk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Multiplayer mode for Space Marine 1 is still active on PC, just be ready for Peer To Peer connections :/
Did anyone know about the pc config ? I'm curious they seemed to not disclosed it . Either they working on optimizing it or they don't have a fully stabilised gameplay with pc .
Chapter master valrak made a vidéo on it i think
Here in the UK, I managed to pre order the ultra edition for £60. Which, in todays market, is an absolutely insane deal for the most expensive edition of a game.
Still preordered it🗿
Remember, no pre-orders.
I am not preordering even though I want to, I have learned my lesson
250 usd for the collectors edition which has half a sculpted figure
You already bought it why would they bother finishing the sculpt? :)
Actually there’s 2 half sculpted figures so you basically have a full figure silly. Now stop complaining and spend your sweet hard earned cash
If you’re broke just say that, there saved you 7 minutes
The man has standards, something your mama clearly does not if she gave birth to you
Bought the collector's, Your reasoning isnt great tbh. You repeat yourself twice about the season pass. Which they said it was cosmetic only, lol. Plus They confirmed to have multiple factions you can customize and play as. On top of that if you actually read specs. It says co-op has endless replay. All about research. Which is what i suggest you did before this video w no open proof. Yeah your right isnt gonna stop. Your argument wasnt compelling enough nor did you have the actually facts to back it up, because you openly admitted you knew of Saber but never played their games. All in all i suggest get more about the verse then come back.
why research when baseless accusation's and uninformed opinions gets more views
Same
Your arguments aren’t better though. They can say all the shit that they want in the description of their game, doesn’t mean it’s gonna be great. Just like Bethesda advertising fallout 76 or Starfield as the best game of this decade.
Preordering is always wrong, even if the game turns out to be the best game ever made. It’s just gambling, and the only way to win at gambling is not paying
They even cancelled their open beta test for « polishing the game », which generally indicate a buggy release
@CaptainRx-ss3rt Wrong. Your misinformation about the beta. There was never a set open beta. There was, however. A closed beta. Do your research.
I pre-ordered the physical gold edition because i really wanted the limited steelbook. Also season passes are usually 30-40 extra anyways, maybe half when on sale.
So ultimately I feel like getting a steelbook, a season pass, and getting the game nearly a week early makes it worth the extra 30-40 bucks
womp womp space marine 2 is still getting my money all $170 is well deserved
Nah frfr I never pre order but listen if it’s trash I’m gonna play the crap out of this regardless
Y'all remember when cyberpunk dropped? That shit was an instant refund
Ok. Pre-ordered, bc I have work so I can offer it ❤
Congrats on your ignorance.
@@GamerSingularity Idc man :D I have a lot of money :P
@@nalle8305 Money can't buy intelligence or common sense.
You're proof of that.
@@GamerSingularity Ehhh Idc much, I'll play few days earlier also got cosmetics and pass, so IDC. And I knoww it about myself, Im not Einstein
@@nalle8305 I don't sweat like a pig in welding gear all day so the stink must be you, buddy.
Take care, mongo.
It's guna launch janky, you don't cancel a beta to identify and fix problems last min. That's why you have a beta to begin with. They're crunching to finish up production before release. I'm sure it'll be fine down the road but I don't see a strong launch for this games multiplayer
Quite a lot of people are discouraging pre-ordering games, some for arguably irrelevant reasons, others for totally relevant ones. All that really needs to be said about preordering is that you as a grown adult work hard for your money and should be capable of making your own decisions on what ways to spend it. Preorders only offer minimal incentives but do actually go a long way for the development of a game as a larger percentage of that purchase goes to the developer themselves, this helps to build revenue for future projects or current ones. Being open minded, well-informed and capable of fact checking things for yourself are crucial skills and attributes that need to be used when making decisions about your money and how you spend it.The underlying fact is to think for yourself when deciding on what your money is worth spending on as the consequences of your poor financial decisions fall upon you and you alone.
Preordering is ALWAYS a mistake because if they get paid automatically upon delivering the product, the incentive is to stop working on sellability of it, quality of it, amount of it, and get it out the door asap.
@@86Corvus when a developer wants to create a game, they go to a publisher or a publisher goes to them with an offer, if the developer accepts the offer it means they owe back what the publisher gives them for the game. Preorders allow developers to invest more money into the game as they develop it so that they don’t have to owe more money to their publisher and in this case, the licensing fees for IP.
Got the Collector's Edition Pre-Ordered, Statue and all.
LOOK MAN WE UNDERSTAND YOUR BROKE
Australian prices, we are ALWAYS GOING TO BE BROKE AND POOR!
@@zabimaru102011 true yall are poor us Americans are filthy rich
@@amosmcnealIn what universe?😂
How the boot taste?
REALLL AS FUCK. honestly this man’s reasoning is just *saber is bad therefor this pre order is bad* like bruhhhhh
Im still shook people preorder
hey mr drug dealer Ima pay you before I get my drugs.
Lmao have fun not playing
Don't get mad other games are better 😘 enjoy your 6 hour campaign
@@DaneilOreoNuh uh Warhammer is one of the best games this year
@anchorsaway1gaming nope, I didn't like helldivers 2 but just from what I see alone helldivers 2 offers more action than you'll ever see in SM 2 ... I don't make the rules
Cry more
@@DaneilOreo Bro the game just released ☠️
@anchorsaway1gaming
and it sucks already
The only accomplishment this game has is that it fken sucked before offical release
Sue me
I'll probably just do what I did with armored core 6 and hold of on pre-ordering till the final day that way I can see what the people playing with the early access.
I just say "anticipate" seems curse dawg
Remember starcraft ,starwars ,halo 2020 and hd2
Those rise as high but someday fell from grace
I dont want to say hd2 or lethal company or palworld
Sure they can fly high but someday will fall
I’m in the same boat as you. The game looks great and I’m hype as fuck but I’m waiting for the beta. I don’t even need to play it personally, I just want to see lengthy consecutive gameplay that real players have access to.
Smart decision.
Tbh the source code of the game is out, you can download it, and play the game now for free, if you doubt it that much
As someone who has made the decision to preorder. Your reasoning is understandable and I agree with the points you mentioned in the video.
Pre ordering was something that you could trust some years ago, it actually worked to do that, now it’s just bullshit. I am not talking shit about space marine 2 it’s looks awesome. But I can’t trust anyone, last 5 games within 4 years I preordered was just shit experience. Miss the old days
People seem to forget that Saber interactive just spent millions, buying their freedom from Embracer Group. To avoid not only shutting down, but also so this game could actually be released. Not to mention the cost of making something from an IP, that isn't their own. In truth the 4 day early access isn't the main point of the gold edition, it's the season pass. Ontop of this Saber as been open that a good portion of DLC items, will end up being free. Such as the 3 player PvE co-op missions, and a majority of cosmetics will end up free as well. With all this in mind, Saber NEEDS this game to do well, and the pricing points are the lowest they're able to go from a business perspective.
If you can't afford the Gold or Ultra edition, then you don't need it, it's as simple as that. Speaking as someone on disability, which is a fixed income, I have to be choosey on what I spend my limited funds on. Yet despite that, having done the research, and knowing the circumstances of the studio, I don't see any issue with the pricing points. Again, given the studios circumstances, they probably need this to be a success in order to stay afloat.
The multiplayer IS active. Just on pc
100 dollars for me in the USA
Since you won’t support devs actually trying I’ll do it for you.
Ghey
Even in debt, I still serve!
No but for real I’ve been waiting for this game ever since I beat the first game when I was a kid. Really high hopes for this game!
I don’t want to support preordering and don’t care about season passes. I’m excited for the game but can I still get the Plume champion pack (ultra addition) items when the game releases? I fking love Roman helmet plumes….
After preordering cyberpunk for the ps4 and returning it after game breaking bugs I became the type of person who waits for the game to be free or at a 60% discount. This is the only game I preordered since then just to support it.
Imagine you can get the standard edition, use the 45$ to buy another game, and play it during the 4 days people are "stress testing" the servers :)
I bought the game one day before the Early Access launch. Mainly because i saw people streaming the game, and i could make a more educated decision on wether i wanted to buy it or not.
People should do this more often
I’m happy to have my pre order of the collectors edition tbh
It cost 260 but you get so much with it and as a collector I love it
Why do people have a issue with pre orders?
Tbh based on the information that we know so far, the game doesn't even nearly justify it's 59,99€ pricetag, not to mention the EA tags 89,99€ / 99,99€. According to what the devs said, the main campaign will be like approx. 10-20 hours long (mainly depends on the difficulty you play on), then it will have that separate 3 player coop mode, which will only have 6 missions at start, and one mission will take like 30mins - 1hours to complete (also depends on the difficulty), and the PvP mode, in which I'm not really interested in, but that's just me. So if we add these up, let's say it will take 20 hours to complete the campaign + 1 hour per coop mission, that equals a total of 26 hours only if we count with the maximum time it takes to complete the PvE part of the game. Ofc there will be some sort of replayability to upgrade your gear, weapons etc, but that's another topic. So the pricetag per hour ratio is a bit off imho. Realistically it's a 35-40€ title tops. Having said that, I haven't pre-ordered it, and will hold on with the day1 buy as well. We'll see how it goes, but personally I'll prolly gonna wait to see how it goes, and get it on discount. If it will be worth getting at all that is.
I agree that preordering without seeing gameplay is a bad idea. But now that the gameplay of creators has been published, it's safe to say that the game will be good and pre-ordering at this stage is fine.
Incorrect but you can think whatever you want, even though it's wrong.
Played the Leaked Build about 5 Hours. Awesome Game. I've pre ordered it 👌🏻
Us in NZ and Aussie do get shafted pretty hard with our pricing like you said. I am concerned that the cross play implementation hasn't been spelled out so I don't even know if I will be able to play with all my mates across PC, Xbox, PS5 or whether it will be silod as the term "crossplay" can mean everything and nothing these days.