Teddy Atlas: Mike Tyson, Cus D'Amato, Boxing, Loyalty, Fear & Greatness | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
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0:00 - Introduction
3:25 - Lessons from father
13:31 - Scar story
34:09 - Cus D'Amato
44:21 - Mike Tyson
2:02:17 - Forgiveness
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3:25 - Lessons from father
13:31 - Scar story
34:09 - Cus D'Amato
44:21 - Mike Tyson
2:02:17 - Forgiveness
Same Teddy Atlas that picked Wallin to beat Joshua? Same Teddy Atlas that picked Wilder to beat Fury not once, not twice but three times?
Nice opening words Lex ..
Was the name Cus short for something? Or, was it a nickname because he cussed a lot?
@@The_Reality_Filter Same Teddy Atlas that trained the greatest heavyweight ever
@@mchammer1836 It's short for Constantine.
His father was a doctor in Staten Island and delivered both of my boys. Once his father came to the housing project to treat my son for a cold. He charged me eight dollars for the service, but never cashed the check. What a man. I will keep his memory forever. John Dalessio
Awesome story!
Lovely
Wow! It's amazing, you saw this, and added that to the interview. Now days I don't think any doctor would be that generous.
I'm old enough to remember that older generation. I miss those old timers.
Pretty great
Wow! Amazing! What a man!! Thank you for the wonderful comment/story!
people like this man are becoming fewer and fewer. i consider myself lucky just to have listened to a conversation with him. thanks lex
I believe people like Teddy were always rare, and will always exist. It was a great privilege to listen to Teddy. I know nothing about boxing. I learned a lot about loyalty. This is one of the best Lex interviews I have heard, maybe the best.
“I consider myself lucky just to have listened to a conversation with him” - this says it all
Ppl of this age and experience, we gotta catch em before they lose their lucidity. So much perspective.
This interview has been mind opening for me as well! What a guy!!!
Nah, they have always been few. They are just even harder to find now because we are surrounded by so much surface level stuff.
This is probably the greatest interview on a deep human level I think I have ever seen on UA-cam. Integrity, raw emotion and just being a human.Thank you.
I agree this was my thougth after watching this intervju
Exactly my feeling, I can’t believe we don’t have to pay for this, thank you Lex!
I see a boy still figuring out how to be a man even at his age...
Quote: "I have travelled the world, but i am still yet to meet a single human being"...In this interview i've seen a human being...
Totally agree
Wow what a talk....❤
Damn. This is probably one of your best guests. Best episodes. And you did everything you needed to in order to help that come out. He did too. But it’s the virtue of dialogue.
I guess we have a different opinion on intelligence. Good luck with them yo.
His Podcast with Avi is pretty cool, you can tell they connect in an intelligent way. Avi sounded so comfortable...
said no one ever this guy is such a bum.
I would disagree ,he is a bum in my unpopular opinion @@OddeyeDL76
Atlas is a 90 year old hater , never done shit for boxing but tear down great fighters
Teddy went from being the Young Master to the Grand Master. Love listening to his stories and wisdom
My God! What a deep introspective talk with a humble man. Lex you have interviewed a number of highly successful and highly educated people. But none as human and as wise as Teddy Atlas. What a remarkable man. Inspirational and willing to expose his own failings as he advances in the journey of life.
Well said
One could do worse than to emulate this man. Nicely put.
Agreed 👍
Teddy. People in our neighborhood appreciate what you do for our community. You and your foundation have bought special vans for disabled people so they can get their wheelchairs in and out. I know when you came into the gym when we were kids to encourage us, it gave everybody a boost to train harder and stay out of trouble and to try and make something productive of ourselves. We are lucky to have you !
Real Boxing fans hate this clown
Amen
This was good medicine for Teddy. Great job Lex. I know you must have left a few dozen questions unasked. Smart to let Teddy think deeply. Bring him back when the time is right.
I wonder if pulling a gun on Mike was the only way to handle the situation. I can't help but love you, and believe you, Teddy. I'm sitting in the cheap seats believing there might be another notch of freedom for you.
This was a powerful interview. This guy is a stand up guy. A lesson in being humble.
That's amazing!. I boxed as a kid, then military 27 years. I love the humilityin this story, and that you knew doctor Atlas. ❤️
im 31yo and lost my father 3 months ago from a heart attack in my arms and even though he was a complicated man he changed his life for the better and was taken from me at 61yo he was and listening to Teddy Atlas explain his father it was rather emotional so thank you and merry Christmas.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you are OK.
Holy f*ck man... I am so VERY SORRY for you... sending love, Bro...
God Bless
Powerful. Stay strong.
Merry Xmas, happy new year.
Lex set the bar high at the beginning but this episode exceeded the bar he set. Teddy is a great orator, story teller and you can feel the raw emotion and sincerity in his voice. Great episode! 🔥🔥🔥
This was a bombshell for every late 30's+ Boxing fan. I've followed these men through my youth, and I have infinitely more respect for Teddy than I'm capable of conveying. I feel like excrement, like a total A-hole for always viewing Teddy as this angry old man, that was nothing more than a hater, biter over loosing his prodigy. I despised him through his years of commentating, as did the majority of us boxing fans. None of us had any idea as to the truth of these circumstances, and I pray to God that this alters his legacy; as well as Tysons. This interview is absolutely huge, and will be spoken about for however long Tysons legacy exists. After this you should be incapable of referencing his legacy, without acknowledging the sacrifices made by this man. Tyson, though subjectively worthy of redemption, is a grotesque man, and we all gave him the benefit of the doubt via his ring greatness. Regardless of the allegations, or the scandals we just assumed it was embellished; though the truth was it wasn't. Teddy on the other hand is a sincerely great man, who did what the majority of us would like to pretend we'd do in his circumstances, but are far too weak to. His sacrifices, his willingness to stand for everything he believed in, to not sell his soul is something exceedingly rare to encounter, and I feel terrible that none of us truly knew the truth about his legacy. This man was seriously mocked his entire career, and it was absolutely undeserving. I highly doubt Teddy would see this, but man if you ever did I'm sorry. You're a better man than I, and none of us knew because he is the type of man that didn't feel the need to broadcast it to the world. I hope his contributions to the sport will be acknowledged before he's gone, and he's sincerely able to some day sit back and know that he cultivated an everlasting mark on the sport that he loved, and it was for something greater than for what Tysons mistakes nearly cost him. I'm just awe struck that after all of this he still produced 18 world champions.
Agree 100%!
Teddy and Mike came from very different upbringings. that seems pretty clear to me after listening to both of them. both had plenty of hardship, but i think it's quite clear Mike came from incredible hardship with no decent role models. Teddy had his dad. I don't think people truly conceive the difference maker that is. I don't think any one of the three men are much better than the other. All flawed humans who were shaped by their experiences.
You never once listened to teddy talk? In all your life?
People and situations are so much more complex than we can understand looking from outside.
Great words
In different circumstances Teddy could have been a poet or other artist. He seems to view the world impressionistically, with real insight.
If he wasn't half brain dead maybe.
Eh? No.
alright take it easy socrates
I agree.
@@wizard4203 Everything came out of his mouth was an art of life. Why don't yo come down socrates
Wow, Teddy’s words about forgiveness and betrayal are epic. That has a lot of meaning to me. I’m 70 years old now and he speaks the raw truth.
Same for me. Same age as well. We never know where wisdom might emerge and touch us.
Teddy's got so many great life lessons, I feel wiser for listening to this podcast. Thank you Lex for having him on.
More people should hear this interview, wisdom in spades. Loyalty is in short supply in this world
Wasn't until my 40's that I started realizing who my friends were. When the fun was over and I started actually needing people no one was ever there. I was always the guy helping everyone yet somehow always doing everything in my life myself.
Same lessons learned 👏👏🙏
I’m 39 I’m still learning this brother
Same brother
This interview is quite possibly the best gift that any of us could’ve received this year. Thank you, Lex. Thank you, Teddy. Merry Christmas to you all!
Could listen to these two men speak for hours... Thank You.
I did
Teddy is my favorite commentator of all time...Tuesday, Thursday and Friday Night Fights on ESPN. My wife and I watched every week for years and years. Teddy Knows boxing!!!
The 🐐
I turned this on so I had something to listen to while washing some dishes. Two hours later, I am teary-eyed and captivated. I thought I knew this story.
This conversation is humanity in its most pure form. Heartbreaking, inspiring, unbelievable, yet relatable. Usually, one should be modest when referring to something as "Shakespearian", but I think Lex was spot on. Lex/crew and Teddy, thank you.
So....did you do the dishes?
Damn good question
Life’s lessons from a boxing 🥊 trainer
I know almost nothing about boxing or fighting and initially had no expectations going into this conversations… But holy god this was one of the most captivating episodes I’ve heard yet. Thank you for another banger, Lex. Absolutely fantastic!
"You dont give up on life"... what a beautiful saying. That was worth the interview
Holy shit I can’t believe I get to watch this for free. The man is a walking book of insight.
Ok. Yes. ITS THE BEST ONE !!! This interview epitomizes how and why Lex shines. Lex, your humility is undeniable. Thank you Lex.
maybe the most powerful podcast i have ever listened to ... lex was just perfect in not getting in the way but slowly getting Teddy to reveal more and more
The sheer number of life lessons in this episode is quite impressive. Another great episode from my favorite podcast. I have a feeling this will soon hit the top 10 most viewed in this channel. Thanks Lex ❤
This is my favorite interview so far. Incredible story, tremendous insights, timeless wisdom, and a truly great - by his definition - man.
got to appreciate how Teddy takes time to think through before speaking, and doesn't fill in the silence with uhs and ums
That shows thoughtfulness in what words he is going to choose because words have meaning and can hurt more than punches.
I’ve noticed giving genuine thought to a question is a trait that I noticed in people with great intellect. Teddy, Elon, ect…
Teddy, at his best, is one of the most captivating people to listen to. Great interview by Lex. Happy Christmas.
Merry Christmas 🎄
I miss his commentary. Im so grateful he commentates over fight night champion I could listen to him talk all day. “Are you fighting to win or are you fighting not to lose?”
@@xprettylightsx3781Merry Christmas!!
Not the best year but celebrating Amazons AMZP44X now! What a time to be alive guys, seriously
This was profound mannnnnn. What an interview. You should really really love someone from the bottom of your heart to get angry the way Teddy got angry talking a about being bribed. Absolute disappointment in someone you admire the most. Love this guy. Every sentence he said was a lesson you can think about for days and try to apply in your life. Loved it Lex. Awesome awesome choice of interview man
Teddy has understanding of the most important lesson of our lives. We are only the owner of our actions. The only thing that lasts beyond our deaths.
Teddy Atlas has been the only guest on any podcast where I can listen to it fully not just clips. Absolute Treasure
What? That grabby alien guy Robin something or other skewered the simulation hypothesis so thoroughly. How could you not watch that entire video. Put us simulation knuckleheads back on track of not thinking we might have a clue.
Lol. Now this knucklehead remembers. Robin Hanson. Watch it and thank the money gods for blessing you.
Teddy only speaks in clips.
This shows the difference between academic qualifications and wisdom.
From the perspective of a Teddy Atlas fan through the sport of boxing:
This is to this date the definitive interview of capturing his thoughts and perspectives on accomplishments, triumph, loss and life.
I've watched countless episodes of your podcast Lex but this is truly one of the most emotionally intense and revealing ones you've ever recorded.
Thankyou so much for all you've done and continued to do, Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone reading, love to you and your families
Thank you. And I agree with what you've said.
Best Wishes for 2024 !
Agreed 100%. Every second was fantastic
Your best guest yet, Lex. I was hooked from the first minute.
Teddy gives crash courses in reality. Love the guy.
Same Teddy Atlas that picked Wallin to beat Joshua? Same Teddy Atlas that picked Wilder to beat Fury not once, not twice but three times?
@@The_Reality_Filtereven if that may be true, that doesn't discredit his life lessons and wisdom.
Lex brings me to tears with the introduction. Thank you professor Fridman. I love how you teach
Thankyou Teddy for being a vulnerable strong man, you are an inspiration for all of us, especially for boys, young and old men.
After listening to Teddy talk about Cus, I just learned that my dog is my friend.
Teddy is Boxing’s Greatest Psychiatrist. Second to none
You took down Ep 100 where you interviewed your dad which is my favorite interview you’ve done but the first part of this interview, hearing Teddy talk about his dad fills that void in your catalogue a little bit. When his dad came and put his hand on the bandage while he’s in the hospital, you can feel even though he was severely injured he finally got what he was looking for. Exceptional interview !!
I am 54 years old. My dad was born 1917 , died 1987. Thank you for posting this. Merry Christmas to all. Especially people alone today. I remember Fonzie eating Spagettios alone. You are Fonzie
Teddy Atlas really is so inspiring to hear him speak. He is a genius, in so many ways. It is his passion and ability to communicate.
I *love* these interviews with people that had it rough in life yet grew out of their situation and are now beacons of hope. Especially to young boys. This interview reminds me of the one you had with Brett Johnson. I'm getting so much inspiration (and tears) from them. Thank you Lex for doing what you do. I'm getting *so much* out of your interviews. I'm sending Love back your way
“You only take with you what you leave behind” damn what a quote
I’ve had the pleasure of training with teddy. He’s is an amazing trainer . He has this ability to understand you and know exactly how to explain what he wants from you and exactly how you’re gonna do it. Amazing person all around. Little things he taught me that were so important. One of the best experiences of my life
I’ve been watching you for the better part of a year now and this has been one of my favourites so far. Really appreciate Teddy’s insight and kind spirit. Thanks for the early Christmas gift Lex, happy holidays to you both.
If you want, i can recommend the episodes with michael malice to you!
They are always one of my favorites. They both work.great together.
I found this interview, Teddy's truth inspiring, I got goosebumps at times.
Thanks Lex, thanks Teddy.
I have been following Lex podcast for awhile and I usually skip folks that are not from scientific background etc . But this time I dont know what came over me but Im glad I watched it . Indeed a lot of life lessons packed in this two hour video . Thank you for this gift.
It's so hard to know when to ask a question as an interviewer and humbling to be a good listener sometimes. What a great insight into a man's life. Teddy does honour to his own internal standards and loves his kids.
A 2 hour interview with the great teddy atlas. Sign me up! Thank you lex. Have a great and safe holiday everyone 🎉😊
Helping me so much listening to this to apply it to my own life situation right now. As always, respect and love to Teddy for his example, his passion, and sharing his wisdom and life lessons. I am truly grateful 🙏🏼
Amazing interview. I worked with Teddy on 2000s EA game Knockout Kings. He was flawed and had a temper but was the most earnest and honest guy I ever met. Thanks so much. Long live Teddy!
It’s amazing how someone, anyone,, can start making quality videos. Start small, then grow grow grow. Lex will be one of the all time greats and go down in history, imo better than JRE but respect to both. This is the future. Amazing how someone can hop on internet and create so much positive energy virtually that manifests physically. Awesome stuff 🤙🏽
"The holidays are good for certain people and bad for others." Your Father is a great man.
Man lex covers everything, every field, such a Legend you are LEX
This 2 hour conversation was an experience through life. It showed the highs and the lows and how great and hard life is.Teddy was a Griot in another life what a great episode
This is a man that has spent much of his adult life pursuing excellence, in himself and in others. That sort of commitment produces wisdom. Wonderful interview.
would've never expected lex to have teddy on here. he's a guy not many know, unless they're heavily into boxing. super excited to listen.
Teddy and his speach at the end broke and mended my heart in one instance.
This is honestly one of the beat interviews I've ever heard! Lex, you sure have come a long way with your interviewing skills! You had a plan for the direction but when the conversation started on a more sincere path, you listened and responded thoughtfully.
I've been a boxing fan my whole life and also a Teddy Atlas fan that whole time; I watch his podcast regularly and try to catch every interview I see with him. He rarely gets into detail about his past but, as he stated himself, he must be ready to talk about it now and then you presented with a conversation as one emotional human being to another. Absolutely beautiful!
Thank you Teddy and Lex, this was awesome to hear on so many levels
This is by far the best interview I have ever heard thank you teddy and thank you lex
For me this is one of the best episodes on your channel. I'll probably gonna revisit it time to time. Something that I've never done before. Thank you for that conversation, Teddy and Lex.
Words of these depths can only be said by those who lived life, faced unimaginable fears, fell down, got back up again, and kept going. Great talk. God bless you guys!
So glad you had Teddy on! Much love Lex and Happy Holidays everyone!
Best interview I have ever listened to. I am going to Apply these nuggets to my own life.
me too ...teddy defines what it means to be a real man - what a role model.
Extraordinary clarity and honesty! Thank you both.
Teddy is a teacher of champions. I feel like I learned something deep from listening to him. Haha, funny how those two seprate thoughts came together. Thanks for the wisdom Teddy.
Teddy is a treasure-trove of real life wisdom and knowledge. As real and authentic as it gets.
“Loyalty is your chance to have a fulfilled life” 😮❤😇🥊🥊🏆🙏
Inspirational man indeed. Everything that Teddy talked about reminded me Jesus Christ and the perfect love displayed on the cross. The topic of forgiveness, loyalty, the inconvenient path, human experience of betrayal, humility, and life after death. This was a deep convo of wisdom through life experience by Teddy.
Teddy spoke of loyalty & not convenience -
He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”
…
Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, Your will be done.”
Matthew 26:39, 42 NKJV
Thank you Lex and Teddy, I couldn’t stop watching this interview, so insightful
Teddy Atlas just inspires me... Admits when he's wrong or weak and cares so much.... Every time he speaks I feel his passion for the art of boxing and also his passion for life and how important it is to try to be a good person on your own terms. He made mistakes and had his faults and he's just honest about it. Here is someone you could truly try to emulate. This is a man to look up to.
Yo, this was F*cking Incredible. What a great platform for this legend to be able to speak his peace. PROFOUND. Merrry Xmas guys, may peace be with you.
Thank you for this excellent Christmas Eve episode, Lex!
Happy Holidays!
Teddy is a true philosopher. What a fantastic Christmas gift, thank you lex.
So many gems in one interview! One of the best interviews I have ever seen.
Sensational, could listen to Teddy all day. Thanks Lex for getting him on
I think I finally understand forgiveness. What an eye-opening, thought-provoking interview. Maybe one of the best I've heard. Thank you
This man didn't speak a single unimportant word. What a wonderful soul.
Lex you knocked it out of the park with this one. One of the best conversations about life and wisdom I ever listened. Remembering to tell my kids and grandkids try every day to like yourself to be great, to be someone that someone can say they’re like to be friends with that person.
Once again always a privilege to get to watch your interviews Lex. Thank you for all you do.
I've been wanting to see a new interview with this guy for a while. I open my UA-cam app to find something to listen to on my drive home from Christmas Eve and this is the first video in my feed. I feel so grateful 🙏
He’s got his own podcast
being a great interviewer is not about the qeustions.. it's about the space you create. lex has created an awesome space where people can share the best of themselves
So far the most amazing podcast I've ever heard! My gratitude for Lex and Teddy. This is historical.
I wish everyone happy holidays and want to thank Lex for a year with great guests and wonderful topics. You are truly someone of exceptional talent. I look forward to 2024.
Wow, just wow. One of the best if not the best episode ever Lex. This one was incredible!
Teddy is a gem. Thanks for giving him exposure on your platform. They say youth is wasted on the young. The youth needs to hear more of this.
What an incredible mn Teddy Atlas is, I have never hard of him, and glad I have now on your podcast. I really like how you give him time to respond to questions ❤
Determination and persistence are the only keys to success. History is full of forgotten, unknown and wasted talent.
What is everyone thinking now that Amazon put up the AMZP44X for everyone? Was rumored for a while but I didnt think they would rly do so
Fuuk Jeff Bezos is what I'm thinking.
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Lex Fridman's podcasts are a source of endless insights, yet the realization that it's a finite number makes each episode more valuable.
Thank you Lex for this episode as a holiday gift featuring Teddy Atlas. He's so real and honest with his words and wisdoms. The greatest person is someone who can overcome his/her fear. Ironically, what we fear is what we want the most. Such a hero journey is called life, a spectrum of greatness and weakness that one has to learn and know about oneself. Thank you so much.
I would love to see Mike Tyson on here next. I feel like Lex would be able to get a great interview out of him.
I was thinking this when I saw the timestamps, and I'm worried Lex would set him off like he did Kanye💀
Lec would have to bring up the teddy atlas story and I don't know how Mike would react to it because he's never been open about it. Would be interesting.
@@Chris-sv8tyMike has commented on the gun to the head incident on his podcast and his apology to Teddy...Teddy doesnt seem big on taking responsibility for his end. Mike takes full responsibility but you can he thought it was a bad move by Teddy; not the kind of behavior one would expect from the son of a doctor of the people...makes sense why Cus fired him. Hard blow for Teddy...
@@Viva_la_naturaI think that’s because he’s not sorry for putting a gun to Mike’s head, obviously this is just speculation but from the way he talks about it it seems as though if he was put in the same situation again he would do the same thing and to be Frank I don’t blame him. God forbid, if someone did what mike did to my daughter or niece and I had the opportunity to hurt that person it would be very difficult not to, that’s for sure.
@@MMA_Jackal yeah, Teddy and Cus adopt a kid, who had been to jail 30 times, who also had severe emotional disturbance and fed his ego to make him feel like a "god". Mike did something very wrong by smacking her butt. Teddy did something very wrong by handling the matter by holding a gun to a kid's head, which i'm glad you find so easy to dismiss. I guess you're wiser than Cus D'amato. Two wrongs make a right in your world? Teddy was the adult, practically his father. You never said or did anything inappropriate with a girl when you were a teeager? Your pops hold a gun to your head over it? Think about that for a second..take it in. I know everyone's very taken in by Teddy's communication style, But he's the son of a doctor with a giant scar running down his face? You think he's a sweet grandpa guy? Maybe now he is. Cus said he didn't trust him around the kids anymore..makes sense.
Lex you’re the greatest interviewer of all time
This interview should be packed into a DVD set or somthing cos its loaded with wisdon and insights. I especially admire Teddy's use of his own vulnerabilities in hindsight to state a point. Great interview.