"M" is for MANOWAR - Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy in Eight Parts | REACTION
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
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The Metal Junkie reacts to Manowar - Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy in Eight Parts . This is the letter M in my Alphabet music reaction challenge.
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My favourite part is still "Hectors final hour" it's so emotional and epic how Eric Adams sings that! Goose bumps everytime!
That's why I suggested it to you - because it is something unique, different and interesting. Manowar are often described as just heavy metal but actualy they are considered as pioneers of both power and epic subgenres of heavy metal. This song is the music equivalent of the 80s Conan movies (which have some badass themes/soundtracks) - just see the cover artwork by Ken Kelly. You have to know some things about this song: First it is released in 1992 when the music is listen on vinyls without skipping tracks, so consider this song as a mini concept album (with 8 songs) in the actual album. Just people had enough time for enjoying the music, not like these days. Second, this song have so many solos and is put as first track in the Triumph of Steel album because Manowar have 2 new band members for this album - the drummer Kenny Earl "Rhino" Edwards (nickname given by the band after hearing him playing on the drums - like a running herd of rhinoceros) and the guitarist David "The Shred Demon" Shankle so they had to be presented to the fans.
I dare say this song is the equivalent to the Director's Cut of Troy, not Conan lmfao
EDIT: I say this not because I think it's a bad comparison but because I'd put a series of other Manowar songs in the Conan spot.
@@MightyPontarches Like one Secret of Steel for instance :)
@FacelessWarrior86 Yeah, lol.
Don't worry, there's enough Scottish shit for Braveheart to get a Manowar soundtrack too!
The parts have meaning in the story:
1.Hector Storms the Wall
2.The Death of Patroclus
3.Funeral March
4.Armor of the Gods
5.Hector's Final Hour
6.Death Hector's Reward
7.The Desecration of Hector's Body
8.The Glory of Achilles
I hope you’ll finish the whole album soon.
This is my favorite Manowar record ever! I agree about some of the sections in the Achilles need to be shortened, but all of the other songs from the rest of the album are hits and not a single miss.
This song is a masterpiece, to me. Structure, atmospheres and lyrics are a perfect musical interpretation of Homere Illyade. Amazing!
Love this song. Incredible.
Dude, the slow parts is what separates them from all the others. Tension and Release!
I think you should react to the rest of this album as it's full of bangers like Matel Warriors and Powe of Thy Sword
I used to use this album to test stereo equipment, especially The Glory of Achilles and Demons Whip.
As people allready said. You have to listen to the song almost like you read a history book. It is chapther by chapther unfolding ancient epic stories.
One of the best ones of Manowar
This is the longest epic track Manowar ever had as well as their most technical lineup. This is one of those where the band step themselves up more to create this. For me, this is one of my favorites. I may mostly like the rocking, heavy and fast parts, plus the incredible drum solo, but the overall epic song is a masterpiece.
Hopefully you can react to more Manowar songs: those from Warriors of the World, Gods of War, Into Glory Ride, Hail to England, just a lot.
There will always be more manowar lol I can't get enough. I did a manowar playlist for my reactions I already did if your interested
If you ask me "what is the best song?" Absolutely no question, no doubt and no thinking... Achilles by Manowar.
I love this song, every second of it, I heard it dozens and dozens times.
Triumph is for me the best album by Manowar. Rhino on drums was insane (his debut album so his solo was introduction to fans)
This song will most likely for me never be taken from the throne as the best.
Btw they played this live, full version... It was sick.
This is album on its own, and I always loved different speed and tempos and changing melodie in Manowar songs... But nothing is for everybody. But I love it
And if the whole song would have been same tempo it would have to be 6 mins long... You cant keep it without change, then it would be the same like every death metal bands song, at the end of the album you have no idea if it was still the same song or 10 "different"
This is no fantasy land..
This is The Iliad, the tale about the greatest battle of the Ancient World. The siege and fall of Troy, 3200 years ago.
An immortal story that shaped Antiquity and as well as the Modern, a crucible of heroes, and of love, fate and glory.
Achilles, Ulysses, Hector, Helen, Menelaus, Paris, Priam, Ajax, Cassandra...
All of them have their place in History and in Western Civilization.
This is the apex of Manowar. They made a concept of the greatest story ever that is still passed in oral tradition in several places.
Never has Eric Adams sounded so powerful and emotional like in TTOS, maybe in Into Glory Ride.
I just can't get into this one song. Love everything else by them, Which is frustrating lol
@@TheMetalJunkie I understand, sometimes it could sound over-indulgent.
But it's so epic, especially in the interludes, where Adams shines.
2:00 In the first hard part, the 1st strophe is from Hector, the 2nd is Patroclos´ answer. After the greek leader messed up with Achilles, they had 9-10 years of increasingly larger defeats (according to the Oracle, the Greeks cannot win without the active participation of Achilles), and had to build named wooden wall, to protect their ships from the Trojans. At the moment of greatest danger, when the wall was breached, Patroclos, Achilles best friend/lieutenant, convinced Achilles to, at least, let him, leading Achilles´ Myrmidons, and carrying Achilles´ armour, fight, which Achilles permitted. Patroclos then had great success, cause the Trojans thought, it were Achilles, but then was killed by Hector. After Hector has killed his best friend, and long forbidden the love between his youngest sister Polyxena with Achilles (by imprisoning her, and liying, about her not loving Achilles, while Achilles secretly meeting her, and knowing of Hector´s lie), Achilles swears revenge (in full knowledge of his own death after that, as also mentioned in 19:22 )...!!! (Achilles has even promised to change sides, if Hector allows this marriage, which would mean a glorious trojan victory (if one further interprets the Oracle) but Hector lied and denied. In one of the secret Polyxena/Achilles-meetings, of which Paris was already suspicious, Paris killed Achilles with a poisoned arrow in his heel)
8:00 Is one of the sole ancient greek riffs that survive till today (while in general, no ancient music ever survives). When dancing it, the line of people, hand in hand, form a narrow-becoming snail-shell, a spiral, that gets narrower and relaxes again, according to the rythm...
Song had 2 useless solos, one with the drums, and one with the band-leader´s bass, which both could have been 10 times shorter...
The Iliad, is generally a critique to polytheism, since Hector could never rely on the support of most of the gods: The few supporting the Greeks, tricked the majority (to which Zeus himself belonged, thereby ridiculing themselves in the eyes of the mortals), and so, the self-confident Hector, the favorite of the gods, was still killed.. In the next epos, the Odyssey, Odysseus defies the gods, which become irrelevant, fixxated into proving him their importance/relevance and might, by damaging him, but the only deity which remains having some dignity left, is Athena (the goddess of wisdom and of total-war, the nuclear-bomb-war), who helps Oddyseus... It´s the time, when religion either becomes monotheistic, or simple folklore, or the Greeks turn atheist (at about 2800 years ago). In the 5th century bc, in the grecopersian wars, the Greeks will even tactically employ their atheism in the battle, tricking the Persians, who think, that the Greeks are religious people too... (the double-spy told the Persians, that the Greeks won´t attack for several days, cause of some seasonal religious obligation, that forbids fighing, but the Greeks attacked in the same night of course, and killed all the Persians in their beds, for example). There´s many such examples, myth has died in the 8th century bc, and logic has risen. Westerners found out about logic in the 15th century ad, for comparison... That´s more than 2200 years too late...
Athena, the goddess of total war, also advised Odysseus to convince the other greek kings, to kill Hector´s baby-son. His argument: If 10 years ago you were so stupid, to begin this war, you should at least be wise enough, to end it once and for all. Leaving the little prince alive, would just mean a successors-war, in infinity... The play "the Troads" ( "the Women of Troy" Euripides, 415bc, where above scene is central), in the middle of the spartan/athenian-civil war, made the whole city cry, and demand the war´s ending, cause this scene reminded the Athenians of their many dirty tricks in this civil-war, where innocent non-involved people have been killed, as a form of unavoidable war-tactics-necessity (one example, the Ikarians were accused of trading weapons to Sparta, while the Ikarians traded weapons to anyone, to the Athenians too. Still, the athenian general said: "the stong will do what they can, and the weak will bear what they must", before slaughtering the Ikarians)... Soon after, the Athenians have given up, and lost to Sparta...
Patience grasshopper! It's a story, imagine a movie told through this medium. It's not for everyone, but that doesn't take away from its epic quality. A story in 8 parts.
I do love me some Man-O-War, Blow Your Speakers is still on my top 10 list when I throw on my 80's metal favorites folder..lol There was just something about them and their warrior fantasy viking conan militaristic type feel that just hit right. Probably why I like bands like Blind Guardian, Dragonforce, Armored Saint and Sabaton, stuff like that. "Military barbarian muscle metal"...lol
Military barbarian muscle metal 😅🤣 love that term haha
Yes...they basically created the power metal genre
This epic song needs explanations. Hector believed he killed Achilles, because Patroclus wore Achilles armor. Patroclus death made Achilles angry for war, but Hector had his armor. Hephaistos forged a new armor during one night for Achilles on his mother demand (that’s the meaning of the drum solo). Hector, seeing Achilles decided to fight in his new armor, understands that the gods, specialy Athena, condamned Troy.
It is a very short explanation, in my poor english. But knowing Illiade is requested to really apreciate the artistic amazing work done on this track.
New subs btw.
full album go go go
Hektor storms the wall🤘🤘🤘
To "get" this a little better, its important to understand the story behind it, the lyrics and parts titles. For example, that part where Demaio goes off on the bass, its called "The Desecration of Hectors Body". Here what the bass "solo" is supposed to symbolize: "After his death, Achilles attempts to humiliate Hector by desecrating his body. He attaches Hector's body to the back of his chariot and drags it around the walls of Troy. He also refuses to give Hector's body to his family for a proper burial, leaving the corpse out in the sun where it can rot and be destroyed".
Although there are some parts that Im not a big fan (Death Hector's Reward and The Glory of Achilles I think are a bit too generic.. (the 2 fast tempo ones in the end) Its not that I didnt want them to exist, but it could have better riffs/melodies. All the other ones I really like!! Interestingly enough the parts you like the most are the parts that I like the least). I also always thought the drum solo to be a bit generic. I love the cymbal work, but that snare sound... I never liked it! You mentioned "Desecration" doesnt fit well. I think it fits perfectly. The part 1 of the "Desecration" reminds me perfectly of a body rotting in the sun, worms coming in and out of it, etc.. And the part 2 reminds me perfectly of someone's lifeless body being dragged by a chariot.
As a huge fan of Manowar I agree with you. This song was hard to swallow for lot of the fans. I personally needed more time to like it. And I´m listening to the parts as a separated songs.
If you want a Manowar fan's thoughts, then you'll get them:
The song is inspired by the Iliad, as I'm sure everyone has gathered, and starts where Patroclus dons Achilles' armor and is killed by Hector, the Prince of Troy, who loots Achilles' armor (of course, Achilles knows exactly where his old armor is vulnerable). It's followed by Achilles in the aftermath of Patroclus' death (the nature of their relationship has been debated for many centuries, with debate going back to ancient Greece and Rome, though the earliest sources portray it strictly as friendship).
After Achilles swears his oath to avenge Patroclus, the next section is where he dons his armor forged by Hephaestus, the replacement of the set which Hector took, which is the riff you compared to Sweating Bullets, I believe. That's my favorite part, because of the way it all flows in that riff, and the foreshadowing of how monstrous Achilles would become in his lust for vengeance.
Next, we get to the drum solo, which is where I picture Achilles killing eleven of Hector's brothers before facing the H man himself. The cymbals do an excellent job of simulating the clash of bronze upon bronze. It's from here that we transition to Hector's Final Hour, as the song's section is labeled, where he emerges from the walls of Troy to face Achilles, though it was foretold he would die facing the hero. That is also where my only complaint regarding the song comes in, which is that the lyrics should've been "thy javelins fly" instead of "let thy arrows fly" because, duh. They fought the duel with javelins, Hector drew his sword toward the end, charged, and he was mortally struck after divine intervention returns the last javelin to Achilles' hand.
HOLD THAT THOUGHT: These circumstances were also brought about by Hector's choice to camp outside the walls of Troy, and rather than retreat to safety and take the shame that came with this, he chose to die to atone for it. Achilles wins physically, killing Hector, but the latter wins philosophically, for he decides to accept the consequences of his choice, he offers proper treatment to the loser of the duel no matter the outcome, bringing his own honor into the spotlight, and when he sees that the gods have abandoned him, rather than wallow in self-pity, he makes a final attempt to claim glory in spite of them. Call that one more complaint. Achilles, on the other hand, desecrates his body and refuses the Trojan Prince proper funerary rites (though he later relents, when Priam himself approaches Achilles for his son's body, showing that he is not without mercy, his rage is simply both his greatest strength and flaw).
Anyway, the ending I assume is Achilles dragging Hector's body around Troy thrice tied to his chariot, for the guitar and bass solos, I'd assume, and riding off back to the Danaan camp for the fade at the end. This was a longer comment than I expected it to be, and I also by coincidence covered things that the movie Troy got wrong, and right, in addition to the song. I don't the way it flows is meant to be like that of one song, but rather, to flow with the story that Homer gave them to work with.
“I am sorry for your loss,” Priam says. “And sorry that it was my son who took him from you. Yet I beg you to have mercy. In grief, men must help each other, though they are enemies.”
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Priam's voice is gentle. “It is right to seek peace for the dead. You and I both know there is no peace for those who live after.”
“No,” Achilles whispers.
Nothing moves in the tent; time does not seem to pass. Then Achilles stands. “It is close to dawn, and I do not want you to be in danger as you travel home. I will have my servants prepare your son's body.”
no one did this... only complaint, is... the bass solo.. but this song isd amazing. I have my CD! and all.. (I´m 43)
and I am gonna check out your other reactions from this band, wich I love.
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08:04 reminds me to Queen - Flash Gordon: The Wedding March.
Try their later crop the gods of war album was great and generally speedier more your style
Personally M stand for Meshuggah! :D Buuuuuuut Manowar is far more than acceptable!
I'm guessing you know nothing of this story? The opening section was Achilles and Hector talking shit. Watch the movie Troy. That dirge section was Patrolicus dying. The giant drum solo was Achilles' and Hector's legendary duel. The flute section was where Achilles desecrated Hectors body. Etc...
definitely have to revisit that movie. haven't seen it since it came out and I don't remember much
@@TheMetalJunkie Greek mythology bud. Well, it was until they actually verified the location of Troy