FATS That Kill You vs FATS That Save You | Dr. Robert Lustig
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2023
- Tune in to the Robert Lustig Podcast as we delve into the fascinating world of fats and their profound impact on our health! 🥑🧈
Join renowned neuroendocrinologist and author, Dr. Robert Lustig, as he takes us on an enlightening journey through the complex realm of dietary fats. In this eye-opening episode, we explore the different types of fats - from saturated and unsaturated fats to trans fats and everything in between. 🍔🥗
Get ready to unravel the truth about how various fats affect our bodies, from metabolism to cardiovascular health and beyond. Dr. Lustig dives deep into the science, sharing his expert insights on which fats to embrace and which to avoid for optimal well-being. 🩺💡
🔬 Discover the latest research on how saturated fats really impact our cholesterol levels and heart health.
🥑 Learn about the role of monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats in supporting brain function and reducing inflammation.
❌ Understand why trans fats are universally recognized as harmful and the importance of avoiding them.
🍤 Get practical tips on making healthier fat choices in your daily diet, without sacrificing flavour or satisfaction.
Whether you're a nutrition enthusiast, health-conscious individual, or simply curious about the science behind fats, this video offers a wealth of valuable information that can empower you to make informed dietary choices.
Dr. Lustig's engaging storytelling and deep expertise make this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking clarity on the role of fats in our overall health. Don't miss out - hit that play button and embark on a journey to a better understanding of fats and their impact on our bodies! 🎧🤓
My wife overheard the discussion of "cis" vs. "trans" and said, "Now with food, too?" She's a keeper!
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My grandparents were from a village in Pakistan. They had buffalos , had their own butter , clarified butter and cooked meat in animal fats. They never had any health problems until they moved to live in the city and switched to ‘vegetable oil’ 30 yrs of veggies oil did a number on their health . Even now when I cook with clarified butter vs veg for some reason clarified is not havey and easy to digest but veg oil is not . I think too much processed oil is not meant to be consumed for too long
o be consumed at all
Yep, and that vegetable oil advertised as vegetable oil is actually seed oil. Disgusting stuff. Should be illegal.
Sure, it couldn’t have had anything to do with aging. 🙄
Besides being an N of 2, they stopped passive exercise due to city life.
Does this include olive oil??
Both my parents died recently at 95 years old. They both avoided heart disease and cancer. They also both ate food fried in lard (white solid pig fat). They ate cakes made with lard. In fact lard was a major part of their diet. They also ate little meat as it was usually served up once a week (cost and tradition). Full fat milk was the norm as was butter. I know genetics is important but lard is easy to cook with, cheap and keeps for months in the fridge.
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Lard is number one! I use it all the time.
But experiments on animals do show those fats clog arteries.and blood vessels and drains.my mother had heart attack and blockage in artery and it was cleared on vegan diet fruit veg pulses nuts olives healthy natural not processed food. Also watch fifty plus. She had stroke on carnivore diet all bloods now back healthy on plant diet. At least she shows evidence
@@harryviking6347lard is corrupted by the modern diet of pigs. Thats why I prefer beef tallow. Otherwise lard was perfect 100 years ago.
What kind of lard?
So many opinions, so little fact based education. Don't give up, Dr. Lustig. Many of us are listening to your lifetime of actual knowledge 🎉🎉
He's a rockstar of his field. I love his style.
Rob Lustig for US FDA chairman!
While typing a comment, herein I wasn’t allowed to type the words”whole” & “foods” next to each other, w/o an automatic change to Whole Foods. !!! This just shows You Tube catering to the financial might of the Big Food Industry, today!
Never heard someone explains fats like him, truly an expert
He didn't discuss SPM which is a better form of DHA/EPA as an anti-inflammatory
How do you recognize an expert unless you’re one?
@@stevencook4002 I'm a biomedical scientist. Dr. Lustig is the real deal.
@@mutantryeff 👍 Specialised Pro-resolving Mediators are getting a little more complicated. The Resolvins are made from EPA, the E series, and DHA, the D series. Protectins from DHA. Maresins I forget now! The Lipoxins are derived from the omega 6 Arachidonic acid. Interestingly all the SPM’s are ‘Trans fats’ actually Trans Bond unsaturated fatty acids, BUT the difference is their double bonds are conjugated ie very 2nd carbon rather than say DHA which has them every 3rd carbon ie omega 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 & 18. So the SPM’s are ‘good’ trans fatty acids. Dairy also contains conjugated trans fatty acids such as CLA. And this ‘Trans fat’ also appears to be good for health. Complicated!
@@stevencook4002I know right. But it gives you a place to start your research. I had no idea cooking in olive oil was bad for you. This is where I will start. Me and my wife both have problems with inflammation. Especially her.
Butter can smoke and burn at 350°F (177°C), but ghee can withstand heat up to 485°F (252°C).
ghee and olive oil can be used interchangeably in cooking, but it's important to note that ghee has a higher smoke point than olive oil, making it a better option for high-heat cooking methods like frying and sautéing.
He just explained why cooking with olive oil is bad
@@MoreChannelNoiseAnd yet Italians have been doing it for centuries and have high life expectancy.
He just explained the science why cooking with Olive Oil is unhealthy !!!
Beef tallow - 420 degrees
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They using real olive oil
I have stopped going out to eat bc it seems every restaurant uses canola oil.
Lots of canola oil!!
gailmanley3130: Plus lots of hidden salt & sugar.
@@orithfrankel2151 and ah the bread basket..all those years of thinking they were being generous so I dove in and got addicted.
Thank you Dr Lustig for your relentless discussions as you have helped me turn my health around with eating natural foods and off processed foods. Diabetic 2 years ago at a 10.2 HbA1C to today 4.5 HbA1C. Walking 5 to 10 k daily and. Now feel great. Am almost 74. Thank you Sir so much.
What did you eat as whole food if you don't me asking? Am also type 2 from gestational diabetes and am 39
Best explanation I’ve heard on the different fats we consume. Dr Lustig is always on top of his game!😊
This is wrong. BEEF also has omega-3. Meat from ruminant animals has omega-3. Think about it. If Omega-3 is so vital AND we can ONLY get it from marine animals, how the hell did humanity survive for MILLIONS OF YEARS before learning how to fish??
Obviously, we have been able to get our omega-3 from animals WITHIN OUR ECOSYSTEM (which is the land; not the water).
Really? I found him lacking in the details so far as types of fats as we see them in foods and oils. Like seed oils were not gone into in any depth or length by names (Peanut vs Corn, vs Canola)???. #7 shows butter on foods and in fry pan, yet he never mentions butter by name. And I thought butter was a dairy fat with less harmful fats than others? Yet his descriptions while these buttery pictures are being shown is devastating. So this is not top of any game, but it's a good start for doing your own research I guess.
A phenomenal explanation doctor.
@@shnydtayne there were always fish in rivers etc and they were easier to catch than mammoths and mountain lions…
@@rockrecordreport7136it's not butter what you saw ,it vas margarine. You...and if you want explanation in depth he has a book METABOLICAL . He lectures at high end universities,he is very knowledgeable. He cannot explain you all about oils in 11 minutes. You...
Hat off for Dr Lustig. Superb knowledge in his field, speaks well and makes it easy to understand.
See: 'Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill' by Udo Erasmus. He has been writing about oils like this for 30+ years.
Makes things clear and digestible.
Dr. Lustig is fantastic! Thank you for this!
This is the best single video on nutrition EVER. And he's doing it without reading from a script.
Dr R L talked
I listen.
The most informative gentleman in the field 👏👌
Dr. Lustig is an international treasure.
I appreciate this video a lot, however the music on the background is extremely disturbing. I only want his comments.
cant find a fresh fish shop round me in uk and now there are findings of plastic ingested by the fish ,and add to that the price of fish is not affordable for many...
Good tinned sardines
Canned sardines are affordable, nutritious and delicious.
You can take algae oil capsules if you want to avoid eating fish.
He’s amazing. Love his work.
Perfect explanation … thank you !
Dr Lustig thank you - great explanations - you are a walking encyclopaedia on this stuff!
This is the best video lecture I have ever heard about fats. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge with us.
Thank-you for that excellent video on fats. You distilled the information into something I can actually understand and use when I go grocery shopping.
Thankyou very informative .
With all the scare around omega-6 fatty acids online, it was good to hear a solid explanation why we need to be careful about them, but also that, if I understand Lustvig right, we don't need to be scared of them either. I've looked at our family's consumption and I think it's already fairly low, and there's one or two things we can probably eliminate to bring it down further.
There is another type of omega 6 called gamma linoleic acid, which wasn't mentioned, but is actually anti inflammatory. Although he said linoleic acid is pro inflammatory, it can also be anti inflammatory, when consumed in the right ratio. It's our ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 that is the problem, but I don't think omega 6 fatty acids are primarily bad.
Thank you! Very Beneficial ‘cooking’ guide. What to use for what!
Thank you.
Thank you very much for the info. Been at this for about a year keto-ish keep finding I’m stalling.
excellent thank you.
Another great video from Dr. Lustig, one of my favorite health explainers.
I wonder if he could give us an overview on the 8 different ways of categorising fats?
1) By saturation
2) By chain length
3) By essentiality
4) By the Number of double bonds
5) By Position of unsaturation
6) By source
7) By Biological function
8) By combinations of the 7 previous ones
When we understand this, we get a lot of clarity as different people use different frameworks.
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Seems to me like the contents of a good book. But a little too much for a video. More like 20 videos!
Looks like a research paper which needs to be written than a video on UA-cam on guidelines for a healthy life
Excellent presentation
Clear concise information
Rare gift
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excellent video..
Avoid industrialised seed oils at all costs!
Organic butter, ✅
beef fat ✅
Duck fat✅
cold pressed coconut oil ✅
E V Olive oil ✔️
Macadamia nuts✅
Hazel nuts✅
Nina Teicholz does a terrific job of explaining the origins of trans fats like Crisco and margarine. They are essentially machine oils that someone figured out how to make taste acceptable. They are anything BUT acceptable and yet their consumption seems to be consistently high. We need something like the anti-smoking campaign to educate people about these dangerous fats.
Dang it! So no more Little Debbie snacks????
@@bench-clearingbrawl7737 → Only if you crave "Palm and Soybean Oils with TBHQ and Citric Acid to Protect Flavor". But you have to ask yourself one question: Why would you need a chemical to "protect flavor"? From google: "Tert-butylhydroquinone (tBHQ) has been commonly used as a synthetic food antioxidant to prevent oils and fats from oxidative deterioration and rancidity due to its potent anti-lipid peroxidation activity.". Again, is this fat so bad that it needs all that chemical help to not go rancid? Seriously!!!
A little common sense and moderation in our eating habits can make for a long, healthy life. No need to get obsessive about it.
How much is moderation?
@@Kitiwake If you don’t know, you probably don’t know what common sense is either. We don’t need so called experts to tell us how to live, eat, etc.
I'm going to be obsessive about not eating seed oils and trans fats. Hope its not to late to remedy a lifetime of vegans.
Are you saying that dietary advice isn't extremely helpful?
I'm sorry I disagree with you. In today's world commercials are basically pushing poison. Some people might need guidance on what's healthy and what's not.
Dr Lustig didn't hold back when criticising vegans lol, I love his sharp humour. As a follower of majority plant-based diet (I eat wild-caught deep sea fish like salmon very rarely), I can see his points. I've cut down all seed oils and be very careful on coconut oil (just like he said, depending on what other things I eat).
it's not very professional though and as far as I can tell factually inaccurate. Vegans who want to consume all three Omega 3 fatty acids can do see easily through the widely available algal oils. The science is also not a consensus in this respect. The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine states
"Plant-derived omega-3s come in the form of alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)-which is the only essential omega-3 fatty acid. Our bodies cannot synthesize it, so we must consume ALA through our diets. The body naturally converts ALA into longer chain omega-3 fatty acids, docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)-which is important for brain health-and eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA).
Fish contain both DHA and EPA. But that doesn’t mean that those following plant-based diets are deficient in these longer chain omega-3s. In fact, women following vegan diets actually had significantly more long-chain omega-3 fats in their blood, compared with fish-eaters, meat-eaters, and ovo-lacto vegetarians, according to findings from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC) Study. Despite zero intake of long-chain omega-3s (EPA and DHA) and lower intake of the plant-derived ALA, vegan participants converted robust amounts of shorter-chain fatty acids into these long-chain fatty acids, compared to fish eaters."
Thanks for all the great info.. what then is a good oil for frying and has a high smoke point pls? Thx
Doc Lustig, you are a straight shooter if there ever was one which is a rare breed indeed when it comes to the medical profession.
As a gesture of appreciation for your generosity in sharing this information, whenever I am able (Facebook, public transit, at work, family gatherings), by your generous example, I will inform others just like you have done for me.
But If they ask too many questions I cannot answer immediately, I will direct them towards you and any books you may have written, I'll just tell them I read a few and all of those books were excellent.
I wrote down every word (I am serious, I did), Googled a few things too. For the sake of further clarity.
I even ate a can of wild caught sardines while I watched it (I had to put it on pause while I looked for the can in the cupboard). Haven't had any wild caught fish in at least a couple weeks, usually Cod, the sardines I've had for at least a year but it doesn't expire until 2025 so it's all good.
Brunswick wild caught brand in spring water, delicious. No bones whatsoever, almost tasted like cold, cooked chicken tenders.
Actually, you need the bones in sardines AND the skin. That’s where you get the calcium from.
Thanks for joining my memory. I like sardines. I was wondering where I was going to get the omega-3s. But they have to be caught from the wild.
He is the best.
Love Lustig!!!
Thanks Rob...you're the best!
8:22 coconut oil
9:00 seed oils pro inflammatory
so what should we eat?
Great job, just want I wanted to know.
Fish (wild , not farmed) once a week for omega 3's that are needed for mental health , and no processed food to avoid seed oils (omega 6's) that cause chronic inflammation...gottit.
And avoid fried foods in omega 6 oils.
It ist far Not so easy 😂😂😂 there are other Experts for real 😂😂😂
I eat wild salmon 3× a week plus supplement with D3, K2 and Omega 3 wild Salmon oil capsules,
Of course along with whole foods, fermented foods, intermittent fasting, eliminated processed carbs and sugar, never felt better, my only regret is not starting this way of eating sooner, but it's never too late to start.
Wrong. Just eat algae. Like the fish do.
Excellent talk with one oversight. He doesn’t list the sources of each of these 7 types of fat. Both to know what to consume and what to avoid. He assumes people already know which fats fall into each category when a lot of people don’t know
But was the last cut of pic of butter when he said about trans fat ????😱I love butter
@@Adventure2305 butter is not a trans fat and is perfectly healthy, unlike toxic margarine
Dear Dr. Lustig,
Thank you so much for your helpful information.
But have I misunderstood?
It seems butter is poison; but dairy fat is good?
Thank you for elucidating!
Extra virgin olive oil has a smoking point of over 400 degrees, more than hot enough for frying. Cheaper olive oils will smoke significantly earlier
I can never remember if I want to focus on omega 3 or 6 but now I will remember The Power of Three!
I think the last image of something melting in the pan is meant to be margarine
Looked like butter but not stated. This video was low on details like what foods have what, or which seed oils are bad, corn, canola, peanut, or etc.????
@@rockrecordreport7136 all seed oils are bad
@@rockrecordreport7136The thing in the skillet could be--🤮
If you get rid of animals you get rid of animal farts too. Great for the climate change says AOC.
More of those big $5 words! 😮I have a $2 vocabulary however. 😢
Thanks for sounding out these fat types for those of us that don't speak Latin. I knew wild caught Salmon was better and now I understand a bit better as to why. Thanks for your efforts.
I did some research on the kitchen.....l found that olive oil in a cast iron skillet.....l found that olive oil at 110°F does a nice job for cooking. Thank you!
How do you cook pork or chicken at 110°F?
You need an internal temp of at least 160°F to neutralize any pathogen in chicken, or pork. 145°F for beef.
What about Salmonella poisoning?
What?
You will barely warm it.
I use olive oil in my cast iron pan, and have my stove set to its lowest heat setting. it takes a little longer to cook some things but its worth it.
You do not mention taking algae oil as opposed to fish oil? It appears that would be appropriate for those on a plant based diet. Comment please.
You can get omega 3 DHA EPA from ruminants that convert plant DHA. Grass fed ruminant is better.
6:07 was the info I was looking for on saturated fat. And you're saying butter is healthier than beef, bacon, or coconut oil. Can you recommend grass fed butter vs regular, vs ghee?
Apparently farmed salmon feed has fish like anchovies ground up and added to the fish meal. Harvard Chan School shows levels of 3 omega fats in farmed salmon.
7:58 Clarification of the difference between a fatty acid and a triglyceride would be of interest.
There are no trans fats in Swedish butter. Is this product not available in the US?
I've started to regularly eat wild fish and hoping to see benefits from omega
Olive oil used for frying is dangerous due to its tfa creation. Is that the conclusion? Only use olive oil if and only if it is served at room Ty?
in 2018 a cardiologist told my cousin to switch to margarine to conter his type II diabetes, and to not eat any eggs, he died 57 in 2022. Now I know, and I have not the same cardiologist.
So sorry for your cousin! Sincere condolences!
Margarine is one molecule from plastic. Eat butter, ghee(Indian clarified butter) real olive oil, lard (free range) stay away from sugar, processed foods, alcohol. Of course, everything in moderation.
@@t.h.1784 → "Everything in moderation"? Even vegetable oils and trans fats? The "all things in moderation" is very very bad advice.
Yes, I agree ! What I meant was moderation even in good, real food and good fats.
I didn’t say moderation in vegetable cooking oils neither or seed oils , neither food junk , neither wheat or grains, neither sugar. Check out Dr. William Davis and his book: The Super Gut, he’s a cardiologist who specializes in gut biome.
@@t.h.1784 yes, that's what I do, and i feel absolutely amazing.
my cardiologist died of Heart attack 🤦♂️
So what is the best fat to use when heating like steaks and eggs?
steak - grill
eggs, avocado oil, EVOO, butter
As a vegan, I do get my omega 3's from a supplement, but we don't need fish oil; we get it straight from the algae. There are lots of algae, lichen and seaweed-based vegan supplements that replace the nutrients we would otherwise need to get from meat and fish.
'Reductionism' leads people like Lustig to say these things. People who do eat fish, yeah, they get sufficient Omega 3 but they also get all the overdose of crap fat and excess protein. They probably eat lots of other animal products as well. So if you apply a "Cost-Benefit Analysis" to this, it's not wise.
And the fish they eat contains mercury and other toxins. Good luck getting them out of your system all you animal eaters.
Clinical/research scientist here btw. Omega 3 is not the only thing you are missing from a vegan diet. You should also consider the following:
(1) Plants anti nutrients such as phytates that are a double-edged sword..beneficial in some circumstances but by far more detrimental as they are known to prevent the absorption of nutrients such as zinc among many other things. Phytosterols are also a problem in the context of LDL oxidation/damage and atherosclerosis/strokes. It's like praising the 5% of benefits while ignoring the 95% of downsides.
(2) The excessive amount of whole food carbohydrates/fructose/other refined sugars that vegans consume as part of their diet (refined carbs are obviously worse but as the "only" source of food long-term, the so called "fiber-rich" carbs are also a problem as they drive hyperinsulinaemia and eventually contribute to insulin resistance, the exacerbation of lipotoxicity with the formation of diacylglycerides and ceramides that causes the mitochondria to burn glucose less efficiently and produce more damaging ROS (free radicals/reactive oxygen species...and no, that's not caused by consumption of a healthy amount of saturated animal fats as many plant-based clinicians want you to believe). That in turn causes the downregulation of the insulin/glucose channels/receptors (e.g.Glut4) that results in a decreased insulin sensitivity (or Insulin resistance). Many organs can become insulin resistance with impaired function. The brain is a prime example. This is why Alzheimer's is now termed "type 3 diabetes". Research it and understand why.
(3) The effect of hyperinsulinaemia on metabolic health, mitochondrial function, neurological health, high blood pressure, nitric oxide inhibition, inflammation and the formation of atherosclerotic plaque causing stroke/CVD to name just a few issues (research it all).
(4) Many clinicians uses half truths to demonise animal-based food. A common one is to blame the Arachidonic pathway and the production of pro-inflammatory Eicosanoids such as prostaglandins, Leucotrienes, and thromboxanes on an animal based diet. Those inflammatory pathways are essential for our immunity and tissue repair. A healthy animal based diet does NOT cause any issues with regards to that. Studies demonstrating this are just poorly written and biases in their conclusion. The same applies for studies claiming that IGF-1 from animal based food causes an increase in all cause mortality. Well IGF-1 (insulin-like Growth Factor) is again critical for your health in the right amount. The same goes for insulin and cortisol. Both are critical for survival however, they can cause harm in excess. Exercise also cause an increase in IGF-1 and that's true same as what meat does. Does it make sense to say that we should stop exercising? Of course not. We must put those artificial lab-based research data in a real-life context.
This bit below is not a direct response to your comment as you didn't mention anything about what i'll be saying next. So please don't take it personally. I'm just putting it here for others as well as I do get many responses on my comments from others and my time is limited as I do have a full time clinical job!
But what I mentioned above are just a few examples to demonstrate that we must be extremely careful with scientific bias, propaganda, conflict of interest and politics that have tainted scientific publications, date interpretation and nutritional policies due to financial support that governments receives from the wealthy big food, big pharma and big tech industry pushing forward certain narratives in favour of the business strategies and profits. And no, the "meat industry" is nowhere as rich and influential on politic as the big food/sugar industry among the others I mentioned and are not able to "bribe" in any relevant way in comparison at least. The climate impact of farming is an issue that the opposition uses without context. For instance why not eliminate industrialisation tomorrow including all fossil fuels, technology and the car industry? That's by far the main cause of pollution. It's not feasible now is it? Instead we all agree that we need to "improve" those things and find a common ground where we can enjoy progress and technology and also take care of the planet. Well the same goes for farming. Eliminating the most nutrient-rich source of food is not the answer for our future from a health and evolutionary point of view. Surprising that plant-based advocates don't want to demonstrate the same level of common sense and rational about that. This is what I do not agree with. Blind bias and ideology do not lead us anywhere. Sure farming itself has become tainted with the race for profits (hormones, antibiotics and despicable/cruel conditions) at the expense of good regenerative farming. That must change for sure. I agree. But lets not lose track of the real issues at hand.
@@ceeemm1901 "Reductionism" also leads people to say that it's healthy to COMPLETELY remove animal-sources food which is a food category that has driven our evolution from (to name a few) the homo neanderthalensis, the homo habilis, the home erectus to the apex homo sapiens that we are now with unparalleled brain function among all creatures on earth thanks to animal based omega3 fatty acids such as DHA, EPA, B12 and other essential amino acids such as methionine, lysine and leucine present in the right conentration in animal-based food. This is strongly evidenced by every bit of unbiased science. The change of our digestive system based on plant-based cellulose fermentation to a mono gastric enzyme digestion system is in itself proof of a evolutionary advantage.
We do not possess the ability to ferment cellulose and extract fatty acids as efficiently as herbivores anymore. They are able to produce all their amino acids from the nitrogen the get from plants and build their muscle mass. We can't do this as must rely on hydrochloric acid from our stomach to break down food and release amino acids that is then further absorbed in the small intestines. We also rely on a certain level of natural fats for cholesterol and fatty acids from animal-based food (hormonal imbalance due to a lack of the precursor cholesterol is well documented among vegans). Such fatty acids are also essential for a healthy liver output of lipoproteins and the production of bile salts that are released in the intestines for fat breakdown/absorption and for carrying all our essential fat soluble vitamins (ADEK).
I find it increasingly strange how people are fully ok about following a "reductionist" diet that veganisms is given that it's absolutely nutrient deficient long-term (that is NOT a debate) but in the same breath find it problematic to include animal-based food as PART of a healthy diet due to the fact that it's supposed "unhealthy". I often see comments about fats and meat being naturally unhealthy. I am not sure if that's what you meant so my comment is rather for a general audience and not necessarily a direct response to you. Based on what evidence exactly? The WHO that said that "meat is probably carcinogenic"? They absolutely have a point if they had mentioned just "processed meat". But they lumped in unprocessed red meat along with their conclusions. There is absolutely no evidence for that statement and it was extremely irresponsible for them to do that based on politics and funding from those who espouse the idea and wrote the biased papers. Those papers have been reviewed by some of the greatest experts in the world and found to be completely based on loose science with not "CAUSATION" established between healthy unprocessed red meat consumption and cancer. That evidence does not exist but the contrary does exist (healthy meat providing health benefits).
If there was real and indisputable scientific evidence that unprocessed red meat and fats causes cancer with the same level of certainty that smoking or asbestos inhalation causes cancer for example, do you think children would have still been allowed to eat meat for example? Don't you think there would have been stronger policies in place to protect them from such "danger" the same way you are not allowed to smoke until the age of maturity? The fact is there is ZERO evidence that establishes a correlation between healthy unprocessed and responsibly sources animal meal/fats and cancer or other diseases for that matter. Sure over consumption is a problem like with everything else. Pesticides such as copper sulphate are a major issue for vegan/vegetarians for example and greatly contribute to copper toxicity (on top of the fact that plan-based diets are naturally high in copper) causing neurological issues, fatigue, brain fog, gynaecomastia in men, zinc and magnesium depletion among many other issues (too long to further elaborate). I won't use this as an excuse however to say that all plant-based food must be banned. It's all about understanding how to eat properly from appropriate sources.
Research the actual papers that decision was based on. Keep an open mind and research the benefits a healthy unprocessed animal-based diet provide as well. Veganism is banned for infants and growing children in quite a few countries. If veganism wasn't nutrient deficient, then you should be able to feed a newborn on it without any issues. Is that possible? It's not. DHA, EPA, B12 and essential amino acids deficiency in infants and growing kids can cause permanent brain damage/neurological impairment. If you are on a vegan diet, you have to rely on supplementation and be very careful about your food choices to get all the required amino acids and nutrients in the right amount. Not everyone can sustain this long-term unless you are a fitness influencer doing this for a living. It's not just about getting those precious algae right! You cannot also do that anyway without consuming too much carbohydrates and fibres (food replacement shakes is the privilege of the modern societies and also not healthy long-term and yes you can consume too much of carbs/fibre leading to metabolic disease, insulin resistance, fatty liver, T2DM, IBS, IBS, SIBO...strange again that plant-based advocate don't tend to mention this much). I see that everyday at the hospital where I work. So it's not information i'm gathering from thin air or my personal opinion. What I am describing is based on my own experience and fully approved and published documentation that a lot of plant-based advocates even among clinicians, just don't want to look at. Instead the pick and choose those biased literature that complies with their own bias. I would also critise the opposing view the same way. There are also biased pro-animal based publications. That doesn't mean that vegetables or animal-based food can't be part of a balanced healthy diet.
I'm always curious to know the clinical/scientific qualifications of those critically appraising world renowned experts who espouse evidence-based science such as Dr. Lustig here. See my comment above. Omega3 is not the only component you are missing from a vegan diet. It would take too long for me to fully elaborate on that. I made a brief comment above. I'll copy those above.
@@youbeever I did write a long reply to this and then lost it all, but in short, going vegan saved my life. I was dying, and now I'm not. I was already aware of everything you've said, I am quite widely read on the subject. I am aware of some very misleading claims -on the part of the plant-based movement, and I think that following some of the advice I received there was responsible for turning my prediabetes into full-blown diabetes. However, I have been able to get 2 autoimmune diseases into remission with a vegan diet and fasting, and this has all been monitored by doctors along with regular blood tests and medical assessments that show I achieved and maintained remission with a vegan diet and fasting.
Very interesting but I am not sure exactly what oils each type is.
What do I use to bake my chicken if I can’t use olive oil? What do I use to sauté my veggies?
This was a very concise explanation of what we all should know about fats.
What I do is use extra virgin olive oil for sallad dressings and butter for everything else.
And I supplement with omeha-3 fro fish oil and krill, since I don't eat much fish now when farmed salmons has destroyed that for me.
Those omega-6 vegetables oils,... I never eat them.
I eat wild caught canned red salmon, from Alaska, several times a week. It's not cheap, over $7 for a 15oz can, but at least it is guaranteed wild caught, not farmed. One problem I have read and heard about omega 3 supplements is that a lot of them are oxidized/rancid by the time you take them.
I have inherited heart disease by genetics. I was on statins that were causing me to become type 2 diabetic and not lowering my LDL's by very much. I dumped the statins, and now take only fish oil, canned mackerel-loaded with fish oil-room temp extra virgin olive oil,crushed garlic and CoQ10. My latest blood test was perfect. Blood sugar-optimal, blood chlosterol levels-optimal. My stress test was good as well.
@@lloydhlavac6807 What brand of wild-caught Alaskan red salmon do you buy?
@@almaburns6562 I used to buy Royal Red brand in my local grocery store chain, Publix, but they switched to Double "Q" brand, so now I get that. For a while I got Bumble Bee's brand in Walmart, but that was actually more expensive. All are wild caught Alaskan red sockeye salmon..
No mention of avocado oil, or did I miss something?
It's a good choice for cooking because of its high smoke point.
this was great - wish you had gone further into what we can eat to balance the good and bad fats. I eat fish and veggies and animal protein once in a while and stay away from seed oils. never knew about the olive oil with high heat being bad - I'm going to stop that right away - I wonder which oil I can use for cooking with a high heat point. Maybe avocado?
You can use canola oil which has 63% monounsaturated fats along with 10% of omega-3s and high heat point. I have been using this for >30 yrs. Also, you can use peanut oil which has 60% monounsaturated oil
thanks!@@bscsmscs1578
Get the lard in ya....
You can cook with olive oil with no problems, as long as you don’t burn it. It is very resistant to oxidation even when heated. Canola oil is inflammatory.
Basically, anything processed by big agri is bad for you, anything not processed and natural is good for you; farm salmon, oils etc bad. Natural salmon, oils good. That simple.
If you go to a modified paleo diet, which I invented btw in 1980, you should be extremely healthy. I need to now call it the "neandertal diet" which is proven that they were the healthiest animals/humans that ever lived.
So is it ok to eat coconut oil in a meal ,without any other fats, and then a meal with othr fats (ie olive oil) after a few hours?
The thing is, if you go to your grocery store or even the so-called "healthy" grocery stores like Sprouts and Whole Foods, the vast majority of their salmon is farmed. Don't believe me, read the label or ask. You have to go out of your way to get wild caught from most grocery store chains and you can't just assume because if they aren't advertising where the fish came from, 100% of the time it is farmed. The only way I get wild caught fish is to either order it online from a fishery or I find it in the frozen fish section in a grocery store. That's where I find mine from all of these places, the frozen fish section. Never can get it fresh in the deli, all of it is farmed. And like beef, there is a difference between farmed and wild caught. Beef cattle are fed corn-based feed whereas grass-fed are fed grass. Huge difference in the quality of fats too.
This is a great point and what is missing in nearly all of the health advice you see when it is stated 'eat salmon' or 'eat chicken'. It's almost impossible to get hold of real wild salmon in supermarkets and by my calcs in the US 1 in 4,000 chicken meals is factory farmed meat (1 in 400 in the UK). Surely no health expert worth their salt is going to recommend eating factory farmed animals and all the chemicals, GM feed, antibiotics or whatever else goes into the meat? Also, if grass fed beef was just fed on grass it would be classified as organic, if it's not classified as organic there is something else going into the cow than just grass. Organic beef is a tiny fraction of the beef consumed.
correction that should have read 2999 in 3000 and 399 in 400
Actually Whole Foods indicates where the wild caught salmon is from, if I am not mistaken.
Everything you stated is absolutely correct, but you omitted one fact. Grass fed means that the cattle were allowed to eat GMO green (90% of Americans crops are GMO) whereas grass finished means the cattle never ate any grain, only grass. Grass finished is the best beef by far!
@@OwenP111yes. They won't label it farmed even if it is because they then people would avoid it.
Dr Lustig, I am very pleased that you show how fish get their Omega 3 - from algae. However, please be aware that vegans get their Omega 3 directly from algae supplements. These supplements are easy to get and it makes a lot more sense to buy such supplements rather than going through the fish supplement route. So non-vegans can also do this and avoid the massive fish-oil supplement industry.
I read up online and olive oils smoking point varies but was around 200 Celsius. I'm worried as I use that a lot. What the best alternative for it? Lard is 190 Celsius and butter a lot lower. Not sure what to use or just frying at high temp is not good regardless of fat used?
Ghee? Tallow maybe
Me too, I like to make popcorn with olive oil and that must be really bad heat for it.
coconut oil is the highest smoke point iirc.... I've used it in stir frys and never once seen smoke from it unllike say olive oil.
Which fett can we use for frying and cooking 🍳???😢😢😢😢
what ab0ut EATING seeds. is it bad? (they contain omega 6)
So if we can't use olive oil for cooking what would be ideal to use instead coconut oil or maybe just butter?
Butter or animal fats like bacon grease. Yummy!
Interesting. So, can we get EPA and DHA Omega 3 directly from algae?
Yes, you can buy algae oil supplements to use as a source of omega-3 fatty acid.
Thanks!@@eleanorsendeavors29
Is there a limit to the amount of fish that you can eat because of the mercury content? Been hearing that twice a week is the sweet spot.
I think you should eat sweetwater fish. Mercury is in seawater fish
Ok. What oil can I cook chips in ?
Can one cook algae or eat algae raw and get the EPA & DHA that way??? And how much algae does one require daily???
So a few more examples of the harmful foodstuffs containing 6 and 7 would be really helpful, that's the advice we are after if you're correct
6: everything in the supermarket.
7: everything in the supermarket.
@gertebert
Not everything!
I buy olive oil, butter, and Turkish youghurt at the supermarket.
But they have a lot of industrialy prepared food and "vegetable" oils, for sure.
Dr Lustig mentioned all good fats. Just avoid everything else. Too much of that to mention, of course.
@@larsnystrom6698 I agree. But there are, depending heavily in which country you live, far better choices. My wife makes yoghurt from fresh cowsmilk from cattle that grazes on very old pasture. We buy fermented butter from france and import olive oil from Greece. But I understand that not everybody is in that position.
We try to avoid supermarkets as much as we can.
Algae, is still Vegan my friend. We do't need Fish for Omega 3. Good video from you👍👍.
Thing is the fish process the algae in a way that our body's can absorb the omega 3,
eating algae directly cant be done because our body doesn't have the mechanisms
to convert it like the fish do.
Also algae is still a plant, a sea vegetable, and all plants like animals have defenses,
i bet the algae have either defense chemicals, and antinutriets. So whatever you think
your going to get from algae it would either be blocked, or bound by an antitnutrient, or
accompanied with some plant compound you dont want in you that can do various things,
if eaten enough of it. The dose makes the poison.
Its like we cant eat grass, but a cow can, and if we eat the cow, the cow's meat, and dairy our body
can absorb, and use because its in the form proper our body can recognize, same with fish,
better to eat the fish, more so smaller fish like sardines which are high in omega 3's and
would have less if any mercury because of their size.
Showed butter(?) being melted in frypan when he started Transfat part. No mention there of what temperature needed to affect trans content. Is this so we will keep watching his other stuff on YT?
Please enlighten us on mustard seed oil.We in north India are using it for generations but recently I read that Erucic acid in mustard oil causes myocarditis.That is why it is banned in US
They make the supplement capsules from the algae these days, and have done for some years.
So if one eats say a 2 egg omelette and had some medium chain fatty acids afterwards, what exactly happens? Because you mentioned not to eat saturated fatty acids with some medium chain fatty acids. How much is too much medium chain fatty acids if one eats say a 2 egg onion & pepper omelette with butter? For example, I take this berberine supplement that’s mixed with some medium chain fatty acids and I take that with my 2 egg pepper, fresh garlic & onion omelette. Is that okay?
*Trans Fats Never Come Out of the Liver???? IF TRUE, We'd ALL be DEAD by now!!!!*
Dr. Lustig you said we should have 1:1 Omega 3 to 6. What does that mean? My Chronometer app (linked to government guidelines) says daily value for 100% Omega 3's is 1.1 grams, and 100% dv for Omega 6's is 12 grams. Do we match percentage or grams?
All "government guidelines" are the product of political processes, and thus are biased toward the goals of those who influence the political process. Best advice; never follow "government guidelines". IMHO
So which fat is best to fry or bake with please?
The ideal is to avoid baking or frying!
1) Omega-3 may increase heart attack rates in people who haven't have a problem yet. See the fish oil paradox. Also, 3 grams a day maximizes benefits and Omega-3 yields oxidized triglycerides and also makes triglycerides that are more easily glycosylated and can cause arterial scarring. 2-4 grams a day is a must but don't think 10 or 20 is better. Very few people get 3 grams though.
2) Monounsaturated: Two thumbs up all around. By the way, butter and beef suit are about 30% oleic. Oleic can trans-ify from heat (and commercial pork lard has a lot of trans Oleic) but it smokes before this due to impurities.
3) Polyunsaturated fatty acids that aren't Omeg-3 are almost entirely Omega-6, linoleic acid. It is pro-inflammatory (which is necessary in moderation) and it ALSO forms more easily oxidized and glycosylated triglycerides that can cause arterial lesions, the instigating factor in CHD. Main issue here is that almost all polyunsaturated fat in the diet is Omega-6 linoleic. Plausibly other trace PUFAs may be in the diet and may be OK for you or have unique benefits.
4) Saturated fat. OK on this.
5) MCTs are mostly saturate, and some PUFA and MUFA, but they are all one of the three basic types with regard to double bonds.
6) Omega-6 are the main form of Polyunsaturated fat in the diet.
7) There are short chain saturated fatty acids that are good for gut health. They are made from fiber by the gut biome.
cook with ghee, lard, avocado oil. nothing else
No coconut oil?
So I'm ok with room temperature grass feed butter? I can't bear marg!
I take harp seal blubber oil, which has EPA, DHA, and DPA. Short-chain omega-3 is also available in sacha inchi.
Poor Seals. 😢
@@moomin7461 Poor (fill in the blank)s. Whether you or anyone else likes it or not, every living thing on this planet, from the smallest micro-organism to the blue whale, is part of the food chain, including you if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's just the way it is. The seals are killed humanely, as opposed to being bludgeoned with pike hooks by fur hunters.
Why does presenting the liver with both saturated fat and medium chain triglycerides "overwhelm your mitochondria's ability to oxidize"? I thought saturated fat didn't oxidize, or am I getting that wrong?
They don't put this information on the label of the fish oil capsules, so how do you know which fish oil is wild or farmed?
I would also like to know the answer to your important question. I'm currently using 2 different types of fish oil capsules from the same company. The first bottle that was recommended by my doctor in the past says Third Party Tested on it, Superior Triglyceride Form, and contains purified deep sea fish oil (from anchovies and sardines) in a soft gel capsule 1280 mg Omega-3.
My doctor now recommends the same brand but this product is from that same brand. I am finishing the first bottle I have and then will switch to the new one she recommends. It says on the bottle 1125 EPA875/DHA High-Intensity Support, Better Absorption True Triglyceride, Third Party Tested in a Certified Lab and Friend of the Sea Certified, non-GMO certified and contains purified deep sea fish oil (from anchovies and sardines) in a soft gel capsule.
Is sesame oil good or bad? It is supposed to be antiinflammatory due to a good substance in the oil despite containing omega 6 fatty acids.
There are exceptions to every rule. While seed oils are generally labelled as bad "sesame seed oil" does have some benefits as long as you don't overheat it (I actually would not use it for frying at all just for marinating and dressing). Basically ANY oil that is heated past it's smoking point becomes a trans fat which is what he could have just stated instead of just picking on olive oil.
It is safe to cook in EVO as the antioxidants cancel out oxidation despite the smoking point. EVO is one of the most stable oils to cook with.
This is what i have read. But this doctor says we cant heat olive oil as heating converts it to transfat....😢😢😢 whom to believe now ?
@@dsa4931 He is talking about bonds flipping form cis to trans. Oxidation is a different story.
What about algae oil capsules as supplements?
So Dr. Lustig, what kind of oil you are using to cook then? I am using coconut oil, cold pressed, raw. Is that safe anyway? I used to cook with peanut but then I switched to lard and now coconut oil. Could you please enlighten me as I do not wanna to kill my family with wrong oil? Thanks
Don't use any oil to cook in. They become oxidized, produce cancer-causing products and add an excessive number of calories. Instead, boil, steam or bake moist food, but not until it dries out. That will cause advanced glycemic end products.
I think oil free ( zero oil ) cooking is the way to go.
Olive oil.
We’re do you buy fish that is not farmed?