@@Tomatech he was asked who Bowser Jr's mom was and pointed at himself. Not much to translate. That smile he had meant he knew what he was answering. Fans were begging to know who the koopalings mother was since they appeared in Mario 3. He was absolutely saying ''I'm the creator, that technically makes me his mom'' without any words. It's just more fun to take him literally when he's being catty. XD He doesn't care about the plot or family connections. He just wants to make fun games. It's us fans who get caught up in the details.
Yeah, I think it’s safe to say Ludwig is the strongest and smartest among the Koopalings. He even managed to trick the Best Fitness Friends, the antagonists in Bowser Jr’s Journey.
To me and most Mario fans, we reject Miyamoto's retcon. The Koopalings will always be Bowser's kids. love the idea of him being a dad to a bunch of spoiled brats.
@@bjp4869 most of us knew the Koopalings before Bowser Jr was introduced so I consider all of them his biological kids. but I'd accept adopted if Nintendo made it official, still better than keeping it a mystery
@@animal1nstinct394 We are his biological kids... we just hatched out of wedlock so Miyamoto treats us badly. "Why would he do that?" I hear you ask. Well, to make a long story short, since Shigeru is canonically Bowser Junior's mother, they get jealous of his original children. Basically 'he' is our 'wicked step-mother' and I never know which pronouns to use.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa I don't consider miyamoto canon. Imagine MARIO having "dev is canon" thing. That would be so ridiculous i would probably give up on Mario lore. Also, I'm on "Jr. Bio, Koopalings adobted" side, and I don't consider fan's opinion on canon canon
So basically Larry is the youngest and the rookie, Morton’s the muscle, Wendy’s the token fashionista, Iggy’s the unhinged maniac, Lemmy is the playful short king, Roy is the cool but crude dude, and Ludwig is the brains and the leader.
Seriously, the Super Mario lore is insanely deep for a simple family friendly series. It's why I keep coming back to it, even as an adult. I really appreciate the way you use the RPGs for your reasoning, considering how deep they are.
Ludwig is my favorite for his maniacal laugh in the cartoons. You mentioned that Roy was the final Koopaling boss only in Color Splash. Although you can play the areas in any order, he was also the last Koopaling boss in Yoshi's Safari (SNES) (1. Lemmy 2. Ludwig 3. Wendy 4. Larry 5. Morton 6. Iggy 7. Roy).
iggy is also my favorite one, but i always kinda disliked that they changed his design because when i was younger i used to create some headcanons about the koopalings due to them not having much character traits outside of the tv show, and the one i had for iggy and lemmy was that they were twins and thats why they looked so similar, and like every pair of twins in fiction, they had opposite personalities, with lemmy being a playful idiot and Iggy a insane genius
I still think they could be twins if you had wanted just that one grew taller and changed their hair thats all, but what really bothers me is the idea Lemmy could be the 2nd oldest.
Well, I am making my own world with them in it, and I loved the idea of those two being twins too. So I just went "Well, F that. Magic exists, Iggy can grow taller than Lemmy." And for the different coloured hair? Hairpaint can exist in their world. I can definitly see Lemmy liking that. So, if you work with your own versions of them, use your favourite headcanons, you can always come up with reasons for it being a certain way later. Just have fun!
Iggy for sure is my favorite koopaling, it makes sense seeing how he's green and that's fav colour, I love that his world is always something to do with nature, and I love his sense of humor, you can definitely tell he's the funniest koopa, but is also quite smart in using chain chomp in his battles.
Ludwig von Koopa and Roy Koopa are two of my favorite Koopaling bosses because they actually give us Mario fans a challenge and for us to use everything we learned in each of the Mario games.
Would the game be about him having to save his siblings or something? (Just spitballing ideas for this). Because he always felt to me like the guy who would fight the world to keep his siblings safe.
@@Moony7Draco He feels like he'd be the only Koopaling to not be caught by some powerful being that tries to capture all the Koopalings (besides Ludwig of course)
I never knew there was retcon. I always thought of them as Bowsers children and Bowser Jr as the youngest child and his chosen heir. I suppose they could be the children of Bowsers rivals, who he killed to become undisputed King.
Iggy's my favorite. In the ride at Super Nintendo World, if you observe closely you'll see Bowser's desk, and on it there's a note that says 'lunch with Iggy and Roy at 2 pm' or something along those lines. There's also books by his throne that are titled 'raising destructive children'. Adopted or not, he clearly loves them. They'll always be his kids in my eyes tho tbh.
5:35 Roy Orbison was also part of the Traveling Wilburys supergroup alongside Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne of Electric Light Orchestra, and George Harrison of the Beatles.
Ludwig is my absolute favorite koopaling and I totally agree that he’s the strongest. Not only the strongest but he’s also been portrayed as the smartest in the cartoons :)
I decided to do some math According to the Mario Wiki, there are 10 games in which the Koopalings are fought. I chose to give them a point system, where being the boss of world 1 gave you 1 point, being the boss of world 2 gives you two, and so on and so forth. I averaged their difficulties by dividing the point total by 10 In order, these were the scores Larry has 2.9 (Thus making him the weakest on average) Morton has 3.1 Wendy has 3.7 Lemmy has 3.8 Iggy has 3.9 Roy has 4.6 Ludwig has 5.6 (Thus making him the strongest on average) Interesting notes Wendy and Ludwig are the only two Koopalings who have not been a world 1 boss. The earliest Ludwig has been fought is world 2, and the earliest Wendy has been fought is world 3. No koopalings have been fought at least once in all 7 places in the order (The closest is Morton, who is missing a 7th spot No world/fighting spot has had all 7 koopalings in them either (The fourth spot is missing roy) Ludwig has 6 appearances as the 7th koopaling fought. (Roy has 2, Larry and Iggy have 1 each) Wendy has 5 appearances as the 4th koopaling fought (Every other koopaling except roy has 1 appearence in world 4 each) Lemmy has 4 appearances as the 6th koopaling fought (2 roys, 2 wendys, an Iggy and a Morton are the other appearences.) Larry has 4 appearances as the 1st Koopaling fought ( 2 Lemmys, 2 mortons, a Roy and an Iggy are the other appearences.)
For Iggy, it is shown that he is somewhat more intelligent than the other Koopalings. For instance, the inside of his ship is more mechanical than the other ships, where they are mostly wooden.
Larry is actually the leader of the koopalings, Ludwig has the best magic ability and Roy is the physically strongest. Morton is the heaviest, Iggy is the skinniest, Wendy is the most hostile and Lemmy is the smallest. Larry is also bowsers favourite koopaling, and is probably the next in line for the koopa throne
another notable thing about ludwig is that in mario and luigi superstar saga he's the only one that doesn't use a countdown bomb, instead he just generates a one-hit kill move from his own power
Fun Fact: In the Nintendo Adventure Books, Iggy was described having a purple mohawk, despite the cover of "Double Trouble" showing him with a rainbow mohawk like Lemmy's.
Fun fact: -That--I--totally--didn't--make--up-- The Koopalings aren't Bowsers kids because they were all illegitimate offspring. This is backed up in the early versions of the manual for the cancelled Mario for the SNES CD that refers to them as the Bowser B@stards.
I love all of the koopalings, but my favorite of all of them has to be Iggy, followed by Lemmy and Ludwig. I like the craziness about Iggy, and I actually also have a shirt with him on it.
Fun fact; Wendy is the only koopaling that hasn’t been the last one Morton, Iggy and Lemmy in paper jam Larry in superstar saga Roy in color splash and Ludwig in most games
koopalings summed up in a few words lemmy: fun and games! ludwig: fancy hair roy: morton with a gun morton: roy but cooler and no gun larry: oh yea he exists iggy: he exists too
Lemmy is my fave with Larry close behind. Also apparantly in one of the instruction manuals its stated that lenmy has a big power that he cannot use. Tho I could be misremembering or something
My favorite one is Wendy and Ludwig but i prefer Wendy for just a little bit. If i Were a koopaling ill have the power of shapeshifting so i could use another mininos abilities
Larry: Nautical Assault Captain Roy: Ground Operations General Lemmy: Ninja/Assassin Wendy: Commander of Stealth and Tactics Iggy: Main Engineer Morton: Strongest Warrior Ludwig: Third-in-command to Bowser (1st) and Kamek (2nd)
I’ve gone under this headcanon after it was “semi-confirmed” that the inverted color sprite of King Koopa from The Lost Levels was a different Koopa King all together, that said Koopa King is “Morton Koopa Sr.” and the Father of the Koopaling (keeping the “lore” of them being Bowser’s Niece and Nephews intact)
Lemmy is older than Larry but I think he's the second youngest (third youngest if you count Jr). the birth order of the Koopalings has never been confirmed except for Larry and Ludwig.
@@grady4557 their birth order has never been confirmed by Nintendo. and visually it would be odd to have Lemmy as one of the older ones so I don't believe the fan theories
Lemmy is my favorite (partly because acting your age is over rated) and he's adorable. Also in the Mario 3 TV series where each of the Koopalings do bad things to a different continent... Roy grafitti's the great wall of China. Ludwig turns all the animals in Africa into stuffed animals. But Lemmy? He takes over the media in North America to get a ton of money. Now that's next level diabolical. I like to imagine that he's hardly taking any of it seriously, apparently in the Manga he even befriends Mario.
0:26 That thumbnail annoyed me because yes, they are not his children. But I don't think they "might as well be" as it's not portrayed as such. 0:43 Fun fact: Larry also is most likely about 13-years-old. His voice actress told me on Instagram DMs that she was asked to speak gibberish like a 13-year-old boy. This seems to work so well with the way he's written, I can't see it as anything but his canon age. 1:12 Dayvv Brooks did not name Larry after Larry Mullen Junior, he gave Larry the name because Larry just simply looked like a Larry to him. I know this is a common misconception that I, as a Larry fan, would know about, so I won't fault you too much for that one. 1:47 Fun fact: It's likely that the reason Larry's fights are never hard is because Larry is canonically lazy, even hearing it from Larry himself in Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser "You should know I don't intend to try very hard" which was for looking for Bowser. Larry also deliberately slacked off in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, causing Roy and Wendy to have to fight the Mario bros and Paper Mario on their own. I believe Larry doesn't try very hard because he takes a "let's get this over with approach" as fighting Mario and other things Larry doesn't wanna do and finds to be boring work, however, he does it anyway because as Larry has said "If I don't bring back the Big Paint Star, scary Lord Bowser is going to scold me!" in Color Splash (JP version), "I won't give my wand up so easily because I don't want to get yelled at by my old man!" in Super Mario Bros 3 (JP instruction booklet) "I'm glad I made it to the final, but King Bowser told me that I had to win or else. ...Or else WHAT?! I don't even KNOW! That sentence never ends well, right? Like, no one ever says 'You have to win or else...you get a puppy!'" in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U version) as well as the fact his Jakks Pacific 2.5 inch figure box states "He always tries to do what Bowser says to avoid being yelled at, but often finds himself distracted by his hungry belly" when describing his character. Although Larry is rather lazy with Bowser's orders, he is shown to be able to put an impressive amount of effort into things he DOES want to do, such as horseback riding in Mario & Sonic, even implying that he put a whole lot of practice into it "Man, you really had me on the edge of my saddle. The way you handled that horse was, uh, something else! Something scary, that is... You goofed a few times, but I guess it IS hard to find the best path across the course without a whole buncha practice, huh? Hint hint. In the end, though, you still managed it, somehow. Never a dull moment, that's for sure! Hope the finals are just as exciting." or with food criticizing in Paper Mario: Color Splash "Hmm…the sour flavor is there, but it's missing a certain pop. Perhaps it didn't set in correctly. Your timing with the seasoning was off." where he can easily tell what went wrong during the cooking process for the steak. Larry's laziness with Bowser's orders is exactly what earns him the nickname "Lollygagging Larry" for the title of the level in which Larry fights Junior in Bowser Junior's Journey. Despite his overall fear not to do what Bowser says because of being afraid mostly of being scolded or even what "or else" means at the end of Bowser's sentences, Larry has a lot of respect for and likes Bowser, as Bowser DOES treat him well enough for that. The whole thing with Bowser is actually pretty interesting since Bowser has an image to keep, he wants to look like the biggest baddest brute around, so Bowser will talk tough to his minions and insult them and threaten them, but that's just his act, which Larry takes literally. This makes sense as Larry would have been around 7 or 8 years old in his debut probably, and he IS still a kid and is therefore, not that smart. One more thing about Larry, did you know that Larry is out of shape? In the 3DS Mario and Luigi games as well as Mario and Sonic, Larry is shown to be the only Koopaling (and one of the only Koopas ever) to get dizzy from SPINNING! Which is such a basic Koopa move seeing as regular Koopa Troopas can even do shell spins without getting dizzy afterward. I can see why Larry doesn't wanna fight Mario. 3:25 Iggy is my second favorite, I absolutely LOVE Iggy, lmao! He is hilarious, and you... already got his character wrong by saying he is "mechanical loving" which has never been shown in the games. 4:53 Fun fact: Roy is the strongest Koopaling, as stated in his description in Bowser Junior's Journey. 5:40 Funny that you said that, because Bowser Junior's Journey confirmed him to be the toughest Koopaling, lol. (1/2)
5:46 Larry acts the most like a kid. Larry is the only one who acts like an early-teenage boy rather than an older teenager. Lemmy is simply described as child-like, but I don't think he's portrayed as being the most childish really. Sure, he has his fun and colorful circus and all, but he puts his talent to a very adult use as an illusionist and a show-hoster in the Emerald Circus, which he appears to have opened himself and owns and Lemmy was even using it to do his job properly by trying to use it to beat Mario in front of an audience. Larry on the other hand was slacking off the whole time in Color Splash until the last minute where he heard Mario was headed to Starlight Cape, so he hijacked the Sunset Express in an attempt to beat Mario there, and when Mario arrived, Larry didn't wanna fight "I ate a lot at the restaurant so I wanted to rest a little more, but since you've caught up with me, I guess there's no helping it." (JP version of Color Splash) and Larry also had moments of dialogue in Color Splash where he'd go "And don't think I won't... think of something to do... because I will!" which was very kiddish dialogue that served as a reminder of Larry's age gap from the rest of the group. Larry's even kiddish in light of the fact he'd claim to have some big plan he clearly doesn't have and is just saying he does to sound cool or smart, such as when he claimed losing was all part of the plan in Paper Jam or when he told Mario (despite having a completely different attitude prior) "Ahaha! Just as I planned, you dumb foolishly jumped right into battle!" in the Japanese version of Color Splash. Larry is also sensitive like a kid, seeing as when Starlow (hypocritically) insulted him for attacking inside the pipe (even though she did it first according to the Japanese version, Starlow started hitting Larry, he went "What the? Some round ball-like thing is hitting me!" and Ludwig pointed out she was taking advantage of the dark, which started them attacking in the pipe, and then their fight in Paper Jam) Larry got incredibly upset about it and told her to shut up and said it's time for him to be serious to prove to Starlow that he isn't a small and pitiful person as she said he is. This also makes Larry insecure, which makes sense seeing as he is described as having a "serious case of little brother syndrome". I'd argue Iggy even is more immature than Lemmy, but Iggy is (extremely) immature in a way that he doesn't really act like a kid. The only times I can think of Lemmy acting kiddish is through quotes like "So yeah... We should hear it fire any second now... It's gonna go... BOOOOOM!" but other than that, I don't really see it. He sometimes talks like a teenage girl stereotype "That Disco Ball Replica is just sooooo last decade! Can't really get into it!" and sometimes talks like a gangsta "Ooooh, you sly dog! How am I supposed to defend myself when I'm getting down? Ya dig? And now for the grand finale!" "No way are we lettin’ you past this point!" and other times he talks like this "Thank you, thank you! It is I, Lemmy, the greatest and most humble illusionist in all the world! The things you’re about to see may shock you. They might astound you. But they’ll definitely impress you." although Lemmy clearly isn't as kid-like as Larry, or as immature as Iggy, Lemmy is still one of the more immature ones in his own funny way, for example, what Lemmy had said that the entire reason he opened up the Emerald Circus was "For some reason, my magic wand doesn’t have any effect on the Paint Star. So the only way I could make it disappear was to employ a little…sleight of hand. But no matter - the point of this circus wasn’t to show off my magical prowess. The point was to steal the Paint Star and embarrass you in front of a giant crowd at the same time! And now it’s time for the grand finale! Heeheekee!" (In the Japanese version he said something along the lines of saying that his circus was "the defeating Mario show" or something) and I'm certain that Lemmy's different ways of speaking are on purpose since a lot of them happen in the same game. Lemmy is also self-conscious about his height as shown in Bowser Junior's Journey and another thing I love about his character is that even though Lemmy is the smallest Koopaling, Lemmy will try and act tough a lot of times, saying things like "Yeah! Let me at ‘em!" or "They don't look so tough. Lemme at 'em!". I'd say the only other kiddish/immature thing Lemmy has said was "Can't hit me! Ha!" and even then, Iggy said something similar and more, and Larry acts a lot more like a kid or a lot more immature with so much more about his character than Lemmy does or than Iggy does. It's worth noting Lemmy claims to have done this to embarrass Mario in front of a crowd, but proceeds to fight Mario on top of the tent, not in front of his audience. I believe Lemmy likely knew deep down that he'd not win to Mario, and didn't wanna embarrass himself. In which case, Iggy definitely knew the same thing, and fought Mario in front of own crowd specifically BECAUSE he knew it would go wrong... Because Iggy is weird and funny like that... As shown also in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and Bowser Junior's Journey, hahah! 6:26 Fun fact: They directly referenced Lemmy's namesake by having one of his idle animations in the 3DS Mario and Luigi games be Lemmy playing an air guitar. Lemmy also didn't have the ponytail when he was younger in the older games, whereas he does now. 6:40 The Super Mario Bros 3 order is not youngest to oldest for the Koopalings. That would make Lemmy over 18 because Roy is at least 18 or older, according to Roy's line of dialogue from Color Splash "Bahaha! Check it out - I’m gonna splat you with your own paint. How’s that for irony? Yeah, I know what irony is. BOOM. Knowledge is power, so I started going to night school." seeing as Roy recently started going to night school as of Color Splash. Night School is classes held in the evening or at night for adults who might have work in the morning. This makes Roy at least 18 years or older in age, and Lemmy does not act like he's over 18, at all, I headcanon Lemmy at 16 as Iggy's slightly older twin (though Iggy could be older then they'd have a Cuphead and Mugman dynamic personality wise, but I think it'd make more sense that they'd have a Mario and Luigi dynamic instead where the shorter twin is older and the younger twin is taller, especially because Lemmy isn't all THAT mature, he's just simply more mature than Iggy and Larry, which isn't hard to achieve). 6:49 Ludwig is not the strongest, but he IS the most strategic. This is demonstrated in Color Splash through his battle where he first built a (half finished) battleship to use against Mario, all for it to go down and all just as he planned, he shows up in a Submarine that keeps diving under the water and coming out only to attack Mario, which was just pure genius, as well as in Bowser Junior's Journey how Ludwig out-brained Beef, contrast to Larry who, due to his serious case of "little brother syndrome" is trying to compete with this by having a "big plan" too, which is just... stuff like "losing was all part of the plan" or "You jumped into a battle with me I admitted I didn't really wanna fight earlier, that was just as I planned, I tricked you!" hahah! Ludwig is the smartest, and as such, the most strategic of the bunch. Tools such as magic wands that shoot magic blasts don't really count for his physical strength, if Ludwig didn't have his smarts, he wouldn't be that strong. I'd say Ludwig's physical strength is a bit middle ground. He's definitely stronger than Larry (because it's not hard to be) and he's probably stronger than Lemmy and Iggy, but I'd put Wendy, Morton and Roy above him in strength. (Ludwig seems more smart than strong, Wendy can beat up Roy and is scary to Roy whereas I highly doubt Ludwig could do similar, really) Ludwig is even the kind of guy who believes in Brain vs Brawn, as Ludwig after outsmarting Beef says "I guess this goes to show you, meathead… Never skip brain day!" in Bowser Junior's Journey. So, uh, yeah, Ludwig is not the strongest of the Koopalings. Roy is the strongest, Larry is the weakest. 7:16 Although the other Koopalings do not agree, Ludwig would be the de facto leader of the bunch, yeah. As he was shown leading the conversation on getting the ingredients for curing the blorbs in Bowser Junior's Journey as well as the fact his Jakks Pacfiic 4 inch figure box description calls him the leader of the Koopalings. I agree with your point there on Ludwig as he isn't the officially recognized leader of the bunch, seeing as the other Koopalings don't see him as the leader of the group, but he is really like the leader of the bunch. 7:48 I can type entire essays about the Koopalings, hahah! As you can tell by my comment here on your video. I'd argue they're pretty consistent, seeing as Larry does what Bowser says to avoid being yelled at ever since Super Mario Bros 3 and then in Color Splash, or how Iggy is a goofy jokester who is never serious, detailed both in the RPGs and how in New Super Mario Bros Wii, Iggy will do a fake out after losing his first battle where he pretends to fall back down as a joke and then gets up for real and jumps off screen. 8:01 As you can obviously tell, Larry. 8:03 Yup, hahah, as you can see on my comment here. Although there was a lot for me to point out that, wasn't the most accurate of information, this was a great video! (2/2)
>But I don't think they "might as well be" as it's not portrayed as such. Well? How are we portrayed? Dad introduced us as "The offspring of yours truly," in the Japanese manual for Mario3, then we were referred to as his children from then until the first release of Superstar Saga... but we've never gotten a _new_ backstory? They may have started calling us 'minions' but what are we, Seven Lucky Gods Martial Artists? Seal Team -Six- Seven? Admirals in his army? This whole thing is too stupid to be considered a 'retcon' because the main thing about retcons is to have new continuity to _retroactively overwrite the previous continuity_ not just smile smugly and say "Nevermind how it works, I've changed it in some unspecified way, and have refused to put any thought into it for the last 20 years. Choke on it."
@@Wendy_O._Koopa The old canon introduced them as Bowser's kids, the new canon decided they are a group of high ranking minions. A group of trusted lackeys. Seven leaders to the minions. This is exactly how the Koopalings are portrayed in games, then Bowser Junior's Journey made it abundantly clear through Captain Goomba's line "Lord Junior, only son of our beloved Lord Bowser!" as well as the fact the Koopalings have been consistently calling Bowser "Lord Bowser" "Master Bowser" or "King Bowser" in the games since their return, and when Roy was getting annoyed with Bowser Junior, Ludwig even says "Easy Roy, that's the boss's kid" clearly not seeing Bowser as his father when saying that. As far as the new canon is concerned, the Koopalings being Bowser's kids isn't a "might as well be" thing, they are not portrayed as such. I do realize it can be tough having to adjust to and accept the new canon, I, too, have been one of those who saw the Koopalings as Bowser's kids and wanted that to be the case. When I heard they were not his kids anymore, I thought that simply meant they were adopted rather than biologically related, which would make sense as they look nothing like him and one of them is named Morton Junior, but then the games proved it wrong and, believe me, it took until Bowser Junior's Journey and Captain Goomba giving out that hard debunk for the Koopalings being adopted for me to finally let it go and accept the new canon that the Koopalings are a group of teenage orphans working for Bowser instead of his kids. Also, what's with the "Seal Team -Six- Seven" thing? Somehow I get the feeling you're jabbing at Larry here because I'm a Larry fan? Which would be totally out of character for Wendy as you appear to be roleplaying based on the PFP and calling Bowser "dad" correct me if I'm wrong. The most Wendy has gotten upset with Larry was when Larry deliberately slacked off in Paper Jam (as is common for him) and she called him stupid and said it was his fault that Roy and her lost the fight, as well as in Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games when Larry bought her a ticket to her own event (maybe out of being clumsy and not realizing it was Wendy's own event or as a smart remark... TV Tropes claims the former, I personally think the latter is more in character for him) and she was questioning why Larry bought her a ticket to her own event, and was thinking if Larry thought she was gonna lose or something and that it made her mad. She's gotten mad at Larry, but not enough to disown him by not including him in the group. The Koopalings all have each others' shells, and Wendy was even the one alongside Ludwig who tried to get the excitement battery back for Larry in Mario and Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games after seeing him all sad and then Larry lies to them claiming that Luigi and Tails stole the excitement battery from him.
@@larrykoopa64dshacker64 Have you seriously never heard of the _real_ "Seal Team Six?" I meant like that... only there's _seven_ of us. Even if you thought I was disowning _one_ of my brothers, why would you assume it was you? If you've gotten shit for RPing Larry before, I'm sorry, but I think I've made it pretty clear on other threads that Iggy is the one I'm most mad at. For not building me a mech in Yoshi Safari... though, I'm hardly mad enough to disown him. Anyhow, I understand the difference between the new canon and the old canon, and it's my personal _headcanon_ that the switch happened on November 1, 2007; after Dad and Mario destroyed the previous universe in Super Mario Galaxy, and it rebooted but "not in quite the same way." But aside from that one interview, there has been nothing in the games portraying us as... anything. We're just kind of... there. The only time they've even addressed it, they said "the relationship between them and Bowser is a real mystery." At least until "Bowser Jr.'s Journey" which you'll have to forgive me for not knowing about, nobody I know bought the remake of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, according to Famitsu's sales tracker, it's one of the worst-selling games in the entire Mario franchise. Yes, _including_ Virtual Boy. So 15 years after the initial retcon, there's a line that says "that's the boss's kid." eh? I'd personally count that as another point towards the whole thing being handled too poorly to be real.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa I have never heard of a Seal Team Six, no, my bad on that one for jumping the gun and assuming that. I just know the Koopaling fandom used to have a tendency to jab at Larry or criticize his design by claiming him to be generic even though he has a chicken cockscomb for hair, criticizing design, name, ect and slander him by claiming he's Lemmy "but with no personality" which is completely untrue because in the games, Larry has a ton of canon personality such as the fact Larry is lazy and slacks, Larry is the only Koopaling not wanting to do as Bowser orders, Larry is a big eater, Larry can be sarcastic at times and has sort of an attitude going on. I think a little bit of that tends to still remain at times and I made a misjudgement. I have not seen your other threads, so I wouldn't know, even then, it's more in character for Wendy to be most mad at Roy, seeing as she tends to beat him up in the games when he says something that makes her mad, and although I can see why Wendy would be mad at Iggy due to Iggy constantly cracking jokes and never taking anything seriously, Iggy is not the inventor of the group. Ludwig was shown to be the one to build inventions in Paper Mario: Color Splash (source of your pfp) seeing as Ludwig built half of a battleship and an entire submarine. Iggy being an inventor was never showcased in a canon source nor a canon compliant one where although it isn't canon, the characters are still in character. I understand having personal head canons. I hope you also understand that personal head canons don't have to comply with canon, I take it you probably do. The Koopalings have been portrayed as something in the games, them not being portrayed as anything and just being... there... isn't true. They have been shown to give the minions orders to follow, they are a group of higher ranking minions and seven leaders to the lower ranking Minions in Bowser's army. Not sure if you're talking about Super Smash Bros with that "the relationship between them and Bowser is a real mystery" thing, but I can see that being the case, just that Smash is a horrible source of information (although Pit feeling sorry for the Koopalings after hearing that doesn't say anything since Smash is a horrible source, it would still make sense if they're orphans like I believe is the case, because their parents are no where to be seen and don't appear to have anyone raising them as well as the fact they live at Bowser's Castle. That is the logical conclusion IMO.) It's a shame no one bought Bowser Junior's Journey. It's a great game and it didn't deserve to tank in sales, and especially be outsold by such a lazy port with an added powerup (NSMBUDX) all because of a meme where people fantasize the idea of Bowser wearing the Supercrown as well as the fact Switch fans were trying to force the 3DS to be dead. Guess I'll have to say good bye to the possibility of them ever making another game with the Koopalings as main characters. There is also the line "Yeah, but for now we still report to Bowser. Do you remember what he said the other day?" from Wendy as well as all the instances in which they call Bowser "boss" or "Lord Bowser" or "Master Bowser" or "King Bowser" since 2015 in Paper Jam and 2016 in Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. It is not handled poorly I can assure you of that much. If you don't have Bowser Junior's Journey yourself, you can probably check out all the cutscenes uploaded by XCageGames if you'd like to see how that game portrayed things.
also is there any news on the mario and luigi series? i know they went bankrupt but is there any rummors of a possbile return or and sources that say that there could be remakes coming to the switch like some of the old games?
You forgot to mention Iggy's occasional pyrokinesis, from which in his Smw fight he launches fire balls, and in new smb u he uses projectiles that can summon lava monsters A mechanical psycho with an obsession for chainchomps and a pyromaniac wizard, Iggy doesn't have his own empire bc the plot needs to nerf him 🐊🐢🔥🔥🔥
Larry being the "Leader" was a mistranslation in the Super Mario Encyclopedia, due to the kanji for "Leader" and "Youngest" apparently being very similar. The concept of larry being the youngest, in addition to a lot of info from this "Official" encyclopedia that Nintendo clearly didn't care about, was ripped from fan-run Wikis
To people saying the Koopalings not being Bowser's children is a retcon, it really wasn't. It came from the American version of the SMB3 manual, it was _never_ in the japanese version.
Ludwig is definitly the strongest when looking at every skill combined (cause physically strongest is Roy/Morton without a doubt). But Ludwig just has the power/skills, the brain and the spells. He's well deserved the leader. And also have to agree on another point in the video. Iggy is best. Iggy's my personal favourite too. Just so delightfully insane and enjoyable.
I know some people regard them as Bowser's children but I think because of the Super Mario Super Show that it got stuck. But if you really think about it whenever in the game it stated that they were his kids in any gaming media?
I remember at one time Miyamoto said that Bowser adopted the Koopalings. I think they should stay with that story instead of just being his minions
Probably the best compromise they can come up with, I’ll take it
Shigeru Miyamoto eventually affirmed that Nintendo's "current story is that the Koopalings are not Bowser's children"
Miyamoto also said he was Bowser Jr's mom. Best part of the reason, to tell the truth.
@@trashcatlinol most likely a translation error on the part of the person asking the question. "Mother" may have been mistranslated to "Creator"
@@Tomatech he was asked who Bowser Jr's mom was and pointed at himself. Not much to translate. That smile he had meant he knew what he was answering.
Fans were begging to know who the koopalings mother was since they appeared in Mario 3. He was absolutely saying ''I'm the creator, that technically makes me his mom'' without any words. It's just more fun to take him literally when he's being catty. XD
He doesn't care about the plot or family connections. He just wants to make fun games. It's us fans who get caught up in the details.
Yeah, I think it’s safe to say Ludwig is the strongest and smartest among the Koopalings. He even managed to trick the Best Fitness Friends, the antagonists in Bowser Jr’s Journey.
Yeah he is always the last koopaling boss in every possible mario game
@@best_mate456 You and nintendolife25 are right about Ludwig except he's not the last Koopaling in Super Mario World.
I doubt that very much about Ludwig da strongest wtf. Its Roy koopa is the strongest Bruddah. Ludwig is a real wizard smart head tho
@@morlife0273 I don't know what the others think but Roy is the strongest but Ludwig is the most powerful.
@@morlife0273 we’re not talking muscle. We’re talking powerful.
To me and most Mario fans, we reject Miyamoto's retcon. The Koopalings will always be Bowser's kids. love the idea of him being a dad to a bunch of spoiled brats.
I always imagined the Koopalings to be adopted and Bowser Jr. to be his biological child.
@@bjp4869 most of us knew the Koopalings before Bowser Jr was introduced so I consider all of them his biological kids. but I'd accept adopted if Nintendo made it official, still better than keeping it a mystery
@@animal1nstinct394 We are his biological kids... we just hatched out of wedlock so Miyamoto treats us badly. "Why would he do that?" I hear you ask. Well, to make a long story short, since Shigeru is canonically Bowser Junior's mother, they get jealous of his original children. Basically 'he' is our 'wicked step-mother' and I never know which pronouns to use.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa I don't consider miyamoto canon. Imagine MARIO having "dev is canon" thing. That would be so ridiculous i would probably give up on Mario lore. Also, I'm on "Jr. Bio, Koopalings adobted" side, and I don't consider fan's opinion on canon canon
@@JezElectro13 I think it's pretty obvious that everything said in this particular post was meant as a joke.
The namer of the Koopalings actually clarifed on Larry's name, saying that he wasn't named after anyone rather that he "just looked like a Larry"
He wasn't wrong tho😅
Living like Larry
So basically Larry is the youngest and the rookie, Morton’s the muscle, Wendy’s the token fashionista, Iggy’s the unhinged maniac, Lemmy is the playful short king, Roy is the cool but crude dude, and Ludwig is the brains and the leader.
Yep! Though we all know Morton is the strongest...
Bro forgot about Bowser Jr
@@Mr.Morton127 Roy carries boulders all the time, I'd say they're equal
@@jayherbo I know, I'm just saying that because Morton is the best imo
That’s practically accurate!! 😁😁😁
Seriously, the Super Mario lore is insanely deep for a simple family friendly series. It's why I keep coming back to it, even as an adult. I really appreciate the way you use the RPGs for your reasoning, considering how deep they are.
Ludwig is my favorite for his maniacal laugh in the cartoons.
You mentioned that Roy was the final Koopaling boss only in Color Splash. Although you can play the areas in any order, he was also the last Koopaling boss in Yoshi's Safari (SNES) (1. Lemmy 2. Ludwig 3. Wendy 4. Larry 5. Morton 6. Iggy 7. Roy).
I have always loved Iggy’s carefree attitude with a bit of insanity. Ok, well, a lot of insanity.
Roy is my guy, just a cool yet unfortunately cruel dude.
The Chain Chomp Champion
CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT HOW FIRE MORTONS CHARACTER DESIGN IS??!?!?!
It makes him VERY unique
And he's also the biggest and he also has his trusty hammer 😊
iggy is also my favorite one, but i always kinda disliked that they changed his design because when i was younger i used to create some headcanons about the koopalings due to them not having much character traits outside of the tv show, and the one i had for iggy and lemmy was that they were twins and thats why they looked so similar, and like every pair of twins in fiction, they had opposite personalities, with lemmy being a playful idiot and Iggy a insane genius
I still think they could be twins if you had wanted just that one grew taller and changed their hair thats all, but what really bothers me is the idea Lemmy could be the 2nd oldest.
@@shadowthief6471Lemmy should not be the second oldest lmao. He doesn’t have to be as young as he looks, but he gives off younger brother vibes
Well, I am making my own world with them in it, and I loved the idea of those two being twins too. So I just went "Well, F that. Magic exists, Iggy can grow taller than Lemmy."
And for the different coloured hair? Hairpaint can exist in their world. I can definitly see Lemmy liking that.
So, if you work with your own versions of them, use your favourite headcanons, you can always come up with reasons for it being a certain way later.
Just have fun!
Honestly, I thought that Iggy and Lemmy were already confirmed to be twins
Iggy for sure is my favorite koopaling, it makes sense seeing how he's green and that's fav colour, I love that his world is always something to do with nature, and I love his sense of humor, you can definitely tell he's the funniest koopa, but is also quite smart in using chain chomp in his battles.
Ludwig von Koopa and Roy Koopa are two of my favorite Koopaling bosses because they actually give us Mario fans a challenge and for us to use everything we learned in each of the Mario games.
Roy deserves his own game where he’s the main character and he’s chill with everyone because he’s such a chad
Would the game be about him having to save his siblings or something? (Just spitballing ideas for this).
Because he always felt to me like the guy who would fight the world to keep his siblings safe.
@@Moony7Draco He feels like he'd be the only Koopaling to not be caught by some powerful being that tries to capture all the Koopalings (besides Ludwig of course)
He is my fauvorite koopaling he’s so chill
I found rare you didn't talk about bowser jr's journey, the koopalings really have time to shine in that game, they are basically the protagonists
I never knew there was retcon. I always thought of them as Bowsers children and Bowser Jr as the youngest child and his chosen heir. I suppose they could be the children of Bowsers rivals, who he killed to become undisputed King.
Not even a proper retcon since remakes of SMB3 keep them as his children, just them not caring about story.
I always assume that Bowser Jr is Bowser's actual child while the Koopalings were Bowser's adopted children.
Ludwig is obviously the strongest, my guy can fire multiple projectiles, a decently sized shell AND FLIES, bruh he takes the cake easily
Not to mention mans built a *freaking BATTLESHIP AND SUBMARINE* in Color Splash. Dude's terrifyingly smart.
When he isn't the last boss, Ludwig is pretty much standing out everywhere compared to his brothers.
My boy can even border on "overpowered" if he were to truly use all of his power(s) in one and the same fight. I'm sure of it
He's the oldest of the koopalings so ofc he's the strongest
3:26 What a coincidence! Iggy also happens to be my favorite Koopaling as well. So what if he's a bit unhinged, I think he's funny!
Iggy's my favorite. In the ride at Super Nintendo World, if you observe closely you'll see Bowser's desk, and on it there's a note that says 'lunch with Iggy and Roy at 2 pm' or something along those lines. There's also books by his throne that are titled 'raising destructive children'. Adopted or not, he clearly loves them. They'll always be his kids in my eyes tho tbh.
5:35 Roy Orbison was also part of the Traveling Wilburys supergroup alongside Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne of Electric Light Orchestra, and George Harrison of the Beatles.
Hell yeah!
Ludwig is my absolute favorite koopaling and I totally agree that he’s the strongest. Not only the strongest but he’s also been portrayed as the smartest in the cartoons :)
I decided to do some math
According to the Mario Wiki, there are 10 games in which the Koopalings are fought. I chose to give them a point system, where being the boss of world 1 gave you 1 point, being the boss of world 2 gives you two, and so on and so forth. I averaged their difficulties by dividing the point total by 10
In order, these were the scores
Larry has 2.9 (Thus making him the weakest on average)
Morton has 3.1
Wendy has 3.7
Lemmy has 3.8
Iggy has 3.9
Roy has 4.6
Ludwig has 5.6 (Thus making him the strongest on average)
Interesting notes
Wendy and Ludwig are the only two Koopalings who have not been a world 1 boss. The earliest Ludwig has been fought is world 2, and the earliest Wendy has been fought is world 3.
No koopalings have been fought at least once in all 7 places in the order (The closest is Morton, who is missing a 7th spot
No world/fighting spot has had all 7 koopalings in them either (The fourth spot is missing roy)
Ludwig has 6 appearances as the 7th koopaling fought. (Roy has 2, Larry and Iggy have 1 each)
Wendy has 5 appearances as the 4th koopaling fought (Every other koopaling except roy has 1 appearence in world 4 each)
Lemmy has 4 appearances as the 6th koopaling fought (2 roys, 2 wendys, an Iggy and a Morton are the other appearences.)
Larry has 4 appearances as the 1st Koopaling fought ( 2 Lemmys, 2 mortons, a Roy and an Iggy are the other appearences.)
That is some really well formated information
For Iggy, it is shown that he is somewhat more intelligent than the other Koopalings. For instance, the inside of his ship is more mechanical than the other ships, where they are mostly wooden.
My favourite has always been either morton or ludwig, i just like their designs
Larry is actually the leader of the koopalings, Ludwig has the best magic ability and Roy is the physically strongest. Morton is the heaviest, Iggy is the skinniest, Wendy is the most hostile and Lemmy is the smallest. Larry is also bowsers favourite koopaling, and is probably the next in line for the koopa throne
Bowser’s favorite is Larry and Ludwig. That’s why Ludwig is always last.
Too bad Bowser jr exists.
@@juleskireeff4563 bowser jr is not a koopaling though
@@dani-boy6420 Omg we basically have the same pfp
Ludwig is my favorite of the koopalings, and he’s amazing in the Mario cartoons as well!
another notable thing about ludwig is that in mario and luigi superstar saga he's the only one that doesn't use a countdown bomb, instead he just generates a one-hit kill move from his own power
You actually fight Morton (with Lemmy) during one of the paper boss fights in Paper Jam, so he does appear more than once as a boss
Yeah the paper oragami so Iggy is now like Waluigi of the Koopalings or something
Fun Fact: In the Nintendo Adventure Books, Iggy was described having a purple mohawk, despite the cover of "Double Trouble" showing him with a rainbow mohawk like Lemmy's.
Larry: Stamina
Morton: Durability
Wendy: Volatility
Iggy: Adaptability
Roy: Determination
Lemmy: Subtlety
Ludwig: Intellect
Personal favorites are Ludwig, Wendy and Roy. I think each could be a contender for strongest given the more unique abilities among them
I wanna see these guys get their own spinoff show.
Them being the main antagonists in a episodic Mario & Luigi show would be AMAZING!
Ludwig is easily the strongest, being the most experienced.
I'm still can't believe that Larry's the youngest and Lemmy is the second oldest.
Ikr but it is funny seeing people think Lemmy is a toddler 💀
I love Ludwig that he has pretty looking blue hair like is my favorite color!
Me to and I love Roy a Tiny bit more than Ludwig
Fun fact: -That--I--totally--didn't--make--up-- The Koopalings aren't Bowsers kids because they were all illegitimate offspring. This is backed up in the early versions of the manual for the cancelled Mario for the SNES CD that refers to them as the Bowser B@stards.
I love all of the koopalings, but my favorite of all of them has to be Iggy, followed by Lemmy and Ludwig. I like the craziness about Iggy, and I actually also have a shirt with him on it.
Fun fact
In Color Splash Iggy is the only character (With Scissors) who can deal 999 damage into a Paper Mario Game
Bowser Jr is Bowser's real child, koopalings are minions.
Fun fact; Wendy is the only koopaling that hasn’t been the last one Morton, Iggy and Lemmy in paper jam Larry in superstar saga Roy in color splash and Ludwig in most games
Roy was thought last in yoshi safari, paper coloursplash and the snes version of mario is missing
Larry's also thought last in super mario world
Iggy was the last one in hotel mario.
Ludwig is the smartest and the most powerful, Lemmy is the cutest and Morton has the coolest design. My 2 cents. 😇
I've always liked Morton, he's my favorite
koopalings summed up in a few words
lemmy: fun and games!
ludwig: fancy hair
roy: morton with a gun
morton: roy but cooler and no gun
larry: oh yea he exists
iggy: he exists too
Lemmy is my fave with Larry close behind. Also apparantly in one of the instruction manuals its stated that lenmy has a big power that he cannot use. Tho I could be misremembering or something
That would be such a plot twist!
My favorite one is Wendy and Ludwig but i prefer Wendy for just a little bit. If i Were a koopaling ill have the power of shapeshifting so i could use another mininos abilities
Ludwig is like a wizard
Roy's my favorite
Same
What do you all think the Koopaling's positions in Bowser’s army would be?
Larry: Nautical Assault Captain
Roy: Ground Operations General
Lemmy: Ninja/Assassin
Wendy: Commander of Stealth and Tactics
Iggy: Main Engineer
Morton: Strongest Warrior
Ludwig: Third-in-command to Bowser (1st) and Kamek (2nd)
@Mr.Morton127 that would be such a good game to play lol
@@madokaslvr Thanks!
Larry the youngest and yet susposed to be strongest koopaling
Even know iggy, have change a lot but still iggy and lemmy are still twins right
My favourite of the bunch is... Ludwig. Duh.
With Iggy being a close second.
Ludwig is personally my favourite, tied with Lemmy
I’ve gone under this headcanon after it was “semi-confirmed” that the inverted color sprite of King Koopa from The Lost Levels was a different Koopa King all together, that said Koopa King is “Morton Koopa Sr.” and the Father of the Koopaling (keeping the “lore” of them being Bowser’s Niece and Nephews intact)
Ludwig is the coolest one haha
I think Ludwig is the strongest and the leader of koopalings
Lemmy is older than Larry but I think he's the second youngest (third youngest if you count Jr). the birth order of the Koopalings has never been confirmed except for Larry and Ludwig.
Im pretty sure he's the second oldest besides Ludwig
@@grady4557 based off what? the order you fight them in their debut isn't the birth order
@@animal1nstinct394 Idk i watched a video on someone doing research and people asked the creator of the game so thats what I go off of
@@grady4557 their birth order has never been confirmed by Nintendo. and visually it would be odd to have Lemmy as one of the older ones so I don't believe the fan theories
@@animal1nstinct394 Well you can believe whatever then 👍
I love every koopaling but I personally love Lemmy the most he’s my favorite
It’s funny how Morton’s theme in paper Mario: color splash was playing during LARRY’s part
To be honest if were excluding Bowser Junior, Ludwig would be one of the most powerful koopalings
But Lemmy looks younger 5:50
Even know lemmy is older than larry
My favorite koopling is roy koopa
7:18 I’m pretty sure Junior was a co-leader too in the NSMB(DS) game.
Lemmy is my favorite (partly because acting your age is over rated) and he's adorable.
Also in the Mario 3 TV series where each of the Koopalings do bad things to a different continent...
Roy grafitti's the great wall of China.
Ludwig turns all the animals in Africa into stuffed animals.
But Lemmy? He takes over the media in North America to get a ton of money. Now that's next level diabolical.
I like to imagine that he's hardly taking any of it seriously, apparently in the Manga he even befriends Mario.
Lemmy learns about capitalism
0:26 That thumbnail annoyed me because yes, they are not his children. But I don't think they "might as well be" as it's not portrayed as such.
0:43 Fun fact: Larry also is most likely about 13-years-old. His voice actress told me on Instagram DMs that she was asked to speak gibberish like a 13-year-old boy. This seems to work so well with the way he's written, I can't see it as anything but his canon age.
1:12 Dayvv Brooks did not name Larry after Larry Mullen Junior, he gave Larry the name because Larry just simply looked like a Larry to him. I know this is a common misconception that I, as a Larry fan, would know about, so I won't fault you too much for that one.
1:47 Fun fact: It's likely that the reason Larry's fights are never hard is because Larry is canonically lazy, even hearing it from Larry himself in Minion Quest: The Search for Bowser "You should know I don't intend to try very hard" which was for looking for Bowser. Larry also deliberately slacked off in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, causing Roy and Wendy to have to fight the Mario bros and Paper Mario on their own. I believe Larry doesn't try very hard because he takes a "let's get this over with approach" as fighting Mario and other things Larry doesn't wanna do and finds to be boring work, however, he does it anyway because as Larry has said "If I don't bring back the Big Paint Star, scary Lord Bowser is going to scold me!" in Color Splash (JP version), "I won't give my wand up so easily because I don't want to get yelled at by my old man!" in Super Mario Bros 3 (JP instruction booklet) "I'm glad I made it to the final, but King Bowser told me that I had to win or else. ...Or else WHAT?! I don't even KNOW! That sentence never ends well, right? Like, no one ever says 'You have to win or else...you get a puppy!'" in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U version) as well as the fact his Jakks Pacific 2.5 inch figure box states "He always tries to do what Bowser says to avoid being yelled at, but often finds himself distracted by his hungry belly" when describing his character. Although Larry is rather lazy with Bowser's orders, he is shown to be able to put an impressive amount of effort into things he DOES want to do, such as horseback riding in Mario & Sonic, even implying that he put a whole lot of practice into it "Man, you really had me on the edge of my saddle. The way you handled that horse was, uh, something else! Something scary, that is... You goofed a few times, but I guess it IS hard to find the best path across the course without a whole buncha practice, huh? Hint hint. In the end, though, you still managed it, somehow. Never a dull moment, that's for sure! Hope the finals are just as exciting." or with food criticizing in Paper Mario: Color Splash "Hmm…the sour flavor is there, but it's missing a certain pop. Perhaps it didn't set in correctly. Your timing with the seasoning was off." where he can easily tell what went wrong during the cooking process for the steak. Larry's laziness with Bowser's orders is exactly what earns him the nickname "Lollygagging Larry" for the title of the level in which Larry fights Junior in Bowser Junior's Journey. Despite his overall fear not to do what Bowser says because of being afraid mostly of being scolded or even what "or else" means at the end of Bowser's sentences, Larry has a lot of respect for and likes Bowser, as Bowser DOES treat him well enough for that. The whole thing with Bowser is actually pretty interesting since Bowser has an image to keep, he wants to look like the biggest baddest brute around, so Bowser will talk tough to his minions and insult them and threaten them, but that's just his act, which Larry takes literally. This makes sense as Larry would have been around 7 or 8 years old in his debut probably, and he IS still a kid and is therefore, not that smart. One more thing about Larry, did you know that Larry is out of shape? In the 3DS Mario and Luigi games as well as Mario and Sonic, Larry is shown to be the only Koopaling (and one of the only Koopas ever) to get dizzy from SPINNING! Which is such a basic Koopa move seeing as regular Koopa Troopas can even do shell spins without getting dizzy afterward. I can see why Larry doesn't wanna fight Mario.
3:25 Iggy is my second favorite, I absolutely LOVE Iggy, lmao! He is hilarious, and you... already got his character wrong by saying he is "mechanical loving" which has never been shown in the games.
4:53 Fun fact: Roy is the strongest Koopaling, as stated in his description in Bowser Junior's Journey.
5:40 Funny that you said that, because Bowser Junior's Journey confirmed him to be the toughest Koopaling, lol.
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5:46 Larry acts the most like a kid. Larry is the only one who acts like an early-teenage boy rather than an older teenager. Lemmy is simply described as child-like, but I don't think he's portrayed as being the most childish really. Sure, he has his fun and colorful circus and all, but he puts his talent to a very adult use as an illusionist and a show-hoster in the Emerald Circus, which he appears to have opened himself and owns and Lemmy was even using it to do his job properly by trying to use it to beat Mario in front of an audience. Larry on the other hand was slacking off the whole time in Color Splash until the last minute where he heard Mario was headed to Starlight Cape, so he hijacked the Sunset Express in an attempt to beat Mario there, and when Mario arrived, Larry didn't wanna fight "I ate a lot at the restaurant so I wanted to rest a little more, but since you've caught up with me, I guess there's no helping it." (JP version of Color Splash) and Larry also had moments of dialogue in Color Splash where he'd go "And don't think I won't... think of something to do... because I will!" which was very kiddish dialogue that served as a reminder of Larry's age gap from the rest of the group. Larry's even kiddish in light of the fact he'd claim to have some big plan he clearly doesn't have and is just saying he does to sound cool or smart, such as when he claimed losing was all part of the plan in Paper Jam or when he told Mario (despite having a completely different attitude prior) "Ahaha! Just as I planned, you dumb foolishly jumped right into battle!" in the Japanese version of Color Splash. Larry is also sensitive like a kid, seeing as when Starlow (hypocritically) insulted him for attacking inside the pipe (even though she did it first according to the Japanese version, Starlow started hitting Larry, he went "What the? Some round ball-like thing is hitting me!" and Ludwig pointed out she was taking advantage of the dark, which started them attacking in the pipe, and then their fight in Paper Jam) Larry got incredibly upset about it and told her to shut up and said it's time for him to be serious to prove to Starlow that he isn't a small and pitiful person as she said he is. This also makes Larry insecure, which makes sense seeing as he is described as having a "serious case of little brother syndrome". I'd argue Iggy even is more immature than Lemmy, but Iggy is (extremely) immature in a way that he doesn't really act like a kid. The only times I can think of Lemmy acting kiddish is through quotes like "So yeah... We should hear it fire any second now... It's gonna go... BOOOOOM!" but other than that, I don't really see it. He sometimes talks like a teenage girl stereotype "That Disco Ball Replica is just sooooo last decade! Can't really get into it!" and sometimes talks like a gangsta "Ooooh, you sly dog! How am I supposed to defend myself when I'm getting down? Ya dig? And now for the grand finale!" "No way are we lettin’ you past this point!" and other times he talks like this "Thank you, thank you! It is I, Lemmy, the greatest and most humble illusionist in all the world! The things you’re about to see may shock you. They might astound you. But they’ll definitely impress you." although Lemmy clearly isn't as kid-like as Larry, or as immature as Iggy, Lemmy is still one of the more immature ones in his own funny way, for example, what Lemmy had said that the entire reason he opened up the Emerald Circus was "For some reason, my magic wand doesn’t have any effect on the Paint Star. So the only way I could make it disappear was to employ a little…sleight of hand. But no matter - the point of this circus wasn’t to show off my magical prowess. The point was to steal the Paint Star and embarrass you in front of a giant crowd at the same time! And now it’s time for the grand finale! Heeheekee!" (In the Japanese version he said something along the lines of saying that his circus was "the defeating Mario show" or something) and I'm certain that Lemmy's different ways of speaking are on purpose since a lot of them happen in the same game. Lemmy is also self-conscious about his height as shown in Bowser Junior's Journey and another thing I love about his character is that even though Lemmy is the smallest Koopaling, Lemmy will try and act tough a lot of times, saying things like "Yeah! Let me at ‘em!" or "They don't look so tough. Lemme at 'em!". I'd say the only other kiddish/immature thing Lemmy has said was "Can't hit me! Ha!" and even then, Iggy said something similar and more, and Larry acts a lot more like a kid or a lot more immature with so much more about his character than Lemmy does or than Iggy does. It's worth noting Lemmy claims to have done this to embarrass Mario in front of a crowd, but proceeds to fight Mario on top of the tent, not in front of his audience. I believe Lemmy likely knew deep down that he'd not win to Mario, and didn't wanna embarrass himself. In which case, Iggy definitely knew the same thing, and fought Mario in front of own crowd specifically BECAUSE he knew it would go wrong... Because Iggy is weird and funny like that... As shown also in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and Bowser Junior's Journey, hahah!
6:26 Fun fact: They directly referenced Lemmy's namesake by having one of his idle animations in the 3DS Mario and Luigi games be Lemmy playing an air guitar. Lemmy also didn't have the ponytail when he was younger in the older games, whereas he does now.
6:40 The Super Mario Bros 3 order is not youngest to oldest for the Koopalings. That would make Lemmy over 18 because Roy is at least 18 or older, according to Roy's line of dialogue from Color Splash "Bahaha! Check it out - I’m gonna splat you with your own paint. How’s that for irony? Yeah, I know what irony is. BOOM. Knowledge is power, so I started going to night school." seeing as Roy recently started going to night school as of Color Splash. Night School is classes held in the evening or at night for adults who might have work in the morning. This makes Roy at least 18 years or older in age, and Lemmy does not act like he's over 18, at all, I headcanon Lemmy at 16 as Iggy's slightly older twin (though Iggy could be older then they'd have a Cuphead and Mugman dynamic personality wise, but I think it'd make more sense that they'd have a Mario and Luigi dynamic instead where the shorter twin is older and the younger twin is taller, especially because Lemmy isn't all THAT mature, he's just simply more mature than Iggy and Larry, which isn't hard to achieve).
6:49 Ludwig is not the strongest, but he IS the most strategic. This is demonstrated in Color Splash through his battle where he first built a (half finished) battleship to use against Mario, all for it to go down and all just as he planned, he shows up in a Submarine that keeps diving under the water and coming out only to attack Mario, which was just pure genius, as well as in Bowser Junior's Journey how Ludwig out-brained Beef, contrast to Larry who, due to his serious case of "little brother syndrome" is trying to compete with this by having a "big plan" too, which is just... stuff like "losing was all part of the plan" or "You jumped into a battle with me I admitted I didn't really wanna fight earlier, that was just as I planned, I tricked you!" hahah! Ludwig is the smartest, and as such, the most strategic of the bunch. Tools such as magic wands that shoot magic blasts don't really count for his physical strength, if Ludwig didn't have his smarts, he wouldn't be that strong. I'd say Ludwig's physical strength is a bit middle ground. He's definitely stronger than Larry (because it's not hard to be) and he's probably stronger than Lemmy and Iggy, but I'd put Wendy, Morton and Roy above him in strength. (Ludwig seems more smart than strong, Wendy can beat up Roy and is scary to Roy whereas I highly doubt Ludwig could do similar, really) Ludwig is even the kind of guy who believes in Brain vs Brawn, as Ludwig after outsmarting Beef says "I guess this goes to show you, meathead… Never skip brain day!" in Bowser Junior's Journey. So, uh, yeah, Ludwig is not the strongest of the Koopalings. Roy is the strongest, Larry is the weakest.
7:16 Although the other Koopalings do not agree, Ludwig would be the de facto leader of the bunch, yeah. As he was shown leading the conversation on getting the ingredients for curing the blorbs in Bowser Junior's Journey as well as the fact his Jakks Pacfiic 4 inch figure box description calls him the leader of the Koopalings. I agree with your point there on Ludwig as he isn't the officially recognized leader of the bunch, seeing as the other Koopalings don't see him as the leader of the group, but he is really like the leader of the bunch.
7:48 I can type entire essays about the Koopalings, hahah! As you can tell by my comment here on your video. I'd argue they're pretty consistent, seeing as Larry does what Bowser says to avoid being yelled at ever since Super Mario Bros 3 and then in Color Splash, or how Iggy is a goofy jokester who is never serious, detailed both in the RPGs and how in New Super Mario Bros Wii, Iggy will do a fake out after losing his first battle where he pretends to fall back down as a joke and then gets up for real and jumps off screen.
8:01 As you can obviously tell, Larry.
8:03 Yup, hahah, as you can see on my comment here.
Although there was a lot for me to point out that, wasn't the most accurate of information, this was a great video!
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>But I don't think they "might as well be" as it's not portrayed as such.
Well? How are we portrayed? Dad introduced us as "The offspring of yours truly," in the Japanese manual for Mario3, then we were referred to as his children from then until the first release of Superstar Saga... but we've never gotten a _new_ backstory? They may have started calling us 'minions' but what are we, Seven Lucky Gods Martial Artists? Seal Team -Six- Seven? Admirals in his army? This whole thing is too stupid to be considered a 'retcon' because the main thing about retcons is to have new continuity to _retroactively overwrite the previous continuity_ not just smile smugly and say "Nevermind how it works, I've changed it in some unspecified way, and have refused to put any thought into it for the last 20 years. Choke on it."
@@Wendy_O._Koopa The old canon introduced them as Bowser's kids, the new canon decided they are a group of high ranking minions. A group of trusted lackeys. Seven leaders to the minions. This is exactly how the Koopalings are portrayed in games, then Bowser Junior's Journey made it abundantly clear through Captain Goomba's line "Lord Junior, only son of our beloved Lord Bowser!" as well as the fact the Koopalings have been consistently calling Bowser "Lord Bowser" "Master Bowser" or "King Bowser" in the games since their return, and when Roy was getting annoyed with Bowser Junior, Ludwig even says "Easy Roy, that's the boss's kid" clearly not seeing Bowser as his father when saying that. As far as the new canon is concerned, the Koopalings being Bowser's kids isn't a "might as well be" thing, they are not portrayed as such. I do realize it can be tough having to adjust to and accept the new canon, I, too, have been one of those who saw the Koopalings as Bowser's kids and wanted that to be the case. When I heard they were not his kids anymore, I thought that simply meant they were adopted rather than biologically related, which would make sense as they look nothing like him and one of them is named Morton Junior, but then the games proved it wrong and, believe me, it took until Bowser Junior's Journey and Captain Goomba giving out that hard debunk for the Koopalings being adopted for me to finally let it go and accept the new canon that the Koopalings are a group of teenage orphans working for Bowser instead of his kids.
Also, what's with the "Seal Team -Six- Seven" thing? Somehow I get the feeling you're jabbing at Larry here because I'm a Larry fan? Which would be totally out of character for Wendy as you appear to be roleplaying based on the PFP and calling Bowser "dad" correct me if I'm wrong. The most Wendy has gotten upset with Larry was when Larry deliberately slacked off in Paper Jam (as is common for him) and she called him stupid and said it was his fault that Roy and her lost the fight, as well as in Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games when Larry bought her a ticket to her own event (maybe out of being clumsy and not realizing it was Wendy's own event or as a smart remark... TV Tropes claims the former, I personally think the latter is more in character for him) and she was questioning why Larry bought her a ticket to her own event, and was thinking if Larry thought she was gonna lose or something and that it made her mad. She's gotten mad at Larry, but not enough to disown him by not including him in the group. The Koopalings all have each others' shells, and Wendy was even the one alongside Ludwig who tried to get the excitement battery back for Larry in Mario and Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games after seeing him all sad and then Larry lies to them claiming that Luigi and Tails stole the excitement battery from him.
@@larrykoopa64dshacker64 Have you seriously never heard of the _real_ "Seal Team Six?" I meant like that... only there's _seven_ of us. Even if you thought I was disowning _one_ of my brothers, why would you assume it was you? If you've gotten shit for RPing Larry before, I'm sorry, but I think I've made it pretty clear on other threads that Iggy is the one I'm most mad at. For not building me a mech in Yoshi Safari... though, I'm hardly mad enough to disown him. Anyhow, I understand the difference between the new canon and the old canon, and it's my personal _headcanon_ that the switch happened on November 1, 2007; after Dad and Mario destroyed the previous universe in Super Mario Galaxy, and it rebooted but "not in quite the same way." But aside from that one interview, there has been nothing in the games portraying us as... anything. We're just kind of... there. The only time they've even addressed it, they said "the relationship between them and Bowser is a real mystery."
At least until "Bowser Jr.'s Journey" which you'll have to forgive me for not knowing about, nobody I know bought the remake of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, according to Famitsu's sales tracker, it's one of the worst-selling games in the entire Mario franchise. Yes, _including_ Virtual Boy. So 15 years after the initial retcon, there's a line that says "that's the boss's kid." eh? I'd personally count that as another point towards the whole thing being handled too poorly to be real.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa I have never heard of a Seal Team Six, no, my bad on that one for jumping the gun and assuming that. I just know the Koopaling fandom used to have a tendency to jab at Larry or criticize his design by claiming him to be generic even though he has a chicken cockscomb for hair, criticizing design, name, ect and slander him by claiming he's Lemmy "but with no personality" which is completely untrue because in the games, Larry has a ton of canon personality such as the fact Larry is lazy and slacks, Larry is the only Koopaling not wanting to do as Bowser orders, Larry is a big eater, Larry can be sarcastic at times and has sort of an attitude going on. I think a little bit of that tends to still remain at times and I made a misjudgement. I have not seen your other threads, so I wouldn't know, even then, it's more in character for Wendy to be most mad at Roy, seeing as she tends to beat him up in the games when he says something that makes her mad, and although I can see why Wendy would be mad at Iggy due to Iggy constantly cracking jokes and never taking anything seriously, Iggy is not the inventor of the group. Ludwig was shown to be the one to build inventions in Paper Mario: Color Splash (source of your pfp) seeing as Ludwig built half of a battleship and an entire submarine. Iggy being an inventor was never showcased in a canon source nor a canon compliant one where although it isn't canon, the characters are still in character. I understand having personal head canons. I hope you also understand that personal head canons don't have to comply with canon, I take it you probably do. The Koopalings have been portrayed as something in the games, them not being portrayed as anything and just being... there... isn't true. They have been shown to give the minions orders to follow, they are a group of higher ranking minions and seven leaders to the lower ranking Minions in Bowser's army. Not sure if you're talking about Super Smash Bros with that "the relationship between them and Bowser is a real mystery" thing, but I can see that being the case, just that Smash is a horrible source of information (although Pit feeling sorry for the Koopalings after hearing that doesn't say anything since Smash is a horrible source, it would still make sense if they're orphans like I believe is the case, because their parents are no where to be seen and don't appear to have anyone raising them as well as the fact they live at Bowser's Castle. That is the logical conclusion IMO.)
It's a shame no one bought Bowser Junior's Journey. It's a great game and it didn't deserve to tank in sales, and especially be outsold by such a lazy port with an added powerup (NSMBUDX) all because of a meme where people fantasize the idea of Bowser wearing the Supercrown as well as the fact Switch fans were trying to force the 3DS to be dead. Guess I'll have to say good bye to the possibility of them ever making another game with the Koopalings as main characters. There is also the line "Yeah, but for now we still report to Bowser. Do you remember what he said the other day?" from Wendy as well as all the instances in which they call Bowser "boss" or "Lord Bowser" or "Master Bowser" or "King Bowser" since 2015 in Paper Jam and 2016 in Mario and Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. It is not handled poorly I can assure you of that much.
If you don't have Bowser Junior's Journey yourself, you can probably check out all the cutscenes uploaded by XCageGames if you'd like to see how that game portrayed things.
The way I see it, The Koopalings are adopted. They aren't his actual kids, but he treats them as his own.
I like you called them by the cartoon names which are the ones I memorized way back
Ludwig’s mah fav, and the strongest. Epic.
Ludwig has the coolest hairstyle And has the best boss fight in Color Splash superludship and superludsub
also is there any news on the mario and luigi series? i know they went bankrupt but is there any rummors of a possbile return or and sources that say that there could be remakes coming to the switch like some of the old games?
Theres literally no one to develop them. The company went bankrupt
I'm not gonna lie i don't recall Larry koopa being the youngest koopaling i always thought lemmy was.
Wendy seems to be the most competent koopaling in other media like the manga or comics.
Is bowser Jr. not part of the kooplaings
@@jarrellwalls5666 Technically no. He's in a league of his own haha
Which, after all iggy and lemmy are twins 👯♂️
In the Mario Movie, during the Peaches musical number, Bowser's piano was built by Ludwig Von Koopa
Larry will always be my favorite
I love all the koopalings but Ludwig is my favorite.
My headcannon for their age is from youngest to oldest: Larry Lemmy Iggy Wendy Roy Morton Ludwig. And my favorite is Morton
Iggy Koopa is my favorite! I do like Ludwig and Roy, but Iggy is the best out of the 3 that I like.
I like Lauryn the most
I just got hooked onto your content. Keep making great content
We can very easily assume that Miyamoto was just joking and he didn't like being asked questions.
You forgot to mention Iggy's occasional pyrokinesis, from which in his Smw fight he launches fire balls, and in new smb u he uses projectiles that can summon lava monsters
A mechanical psycho with an obsession for chainchomps and a pyromaniac wizard, Iggy doesn't have his own empire bc the plot needs to nerf him 🐊🐢🔥🔥🔥
Another thing Ludwig has going for him is that he has a whole Ludsub to his name.
Great video! Only thing I’d change is Larry being the leader of the koopalings despite being the youngest. Nintendo even stated this not too long ago
Larry being the "Leader" was a mistranslation in the Super Mario Encyclopedia, due to the kanji for "Leader" and "Youngest" apparently being very similar. The concept of larry being the youngest, in addition to a lot of info from this "Official" encyclopedia that Nintendo clearly didn't care about, was ripped from fan-run Wikis
To people saying the Koopalings not being Bowser's children is a retcon, it really wasn't. It came from the American version of the SMB3 manual, it was _never_ in the japanese version.
I love The Koopalings my favorite one is Larry
They have more information on them someone like Bowser's brother who only is in the Lost Levels game.
Larry in mainline Mario game: 🫥
Larry in spin-offs: 💪💪
Ludwig von koopa is my favorite koopaling in the mario franchise
Me too!
Iggy is my favorite from the first moment i saw him
Lemmy ist the 2. Oldest. The fact kills me every time
Ludwig is my favourite.
I think the order for every game they’re in should be Larry, Morton, Wendy, Lemmy, iggy, Roy, Ludwig
Video:who is the strongest?
Me:its morton or roy
I wish they would do more with them, they're only in the 2D games which has caused people to not really care all that much about them like bowser jr.
To answer your question, no Lemmy is actually the 2nd oldest, but I just thing he doesn't want to grow up
The Koopalings are adopted. Bowser Jr is bowser's only son...
The Koopa kids in Mario Galaxy game!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ludwig is definitly the strongest when looking at every skill combined (cause physically strongest is Roy/Morton without a doubt). But Ludwig just has the power/skills, the brain and the spells. He's well deserved the leader.
And also have to agree on another point in the video. Iggy is best.
Iggy's my personal favourite too. Just so delightfully insane and enjoyable.
I know some people regard them as Bowser's children but I think because of the Super Mario Super Show that it got stuck. But if you really think about it whenever in the game it stated that they were his kids in any gaming media?
We can very easily assume that Miyamoto was just joking and didn't like being asked questions.
I think Ludwig is the strongest too
He is, tooooo!
I thought that was pretty obvious
Sure as hell the smartest