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  • Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
  • Episode 5 "Vichnaya Pamyat"
    Valery Legasov, Boris Shcherbina, and Ulana Khomyuk risk their lives and reputations to expose the truth about Chernobyl.
    Join our Patreon for NO SYNC REQUIRED UNCUT REACTIONS. Thank you for the support! / mairsophie

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  • @babybone95
    @babybone95 4 місяці тому +58

    Whenever the “How does an RBMK reactor explode ?“ question is asked, everyone says “I don’t know” while Legasov says “I’m not prepared to explain it at this time” which I think is a nice little detail as to how much of an expert he is

    • @RetroHondo67
      @RetroHondo67 4 місяці тому +13

      It is important to remember nobody thought it could explode, in fact all nuclear physicists in the world at that time would not believe a reactor could blow up, melt down, sure, but not explode. Legasov knew of the graphite tip issue but they never thought the reactor would ever be able to get to the point that the issue would lead to it exploding.

  • @Hellfire0220
    @Hellfire0220 3 місяці тому +8

    The Shortened version you guys are watching skipped over THE BIGGEST PART, which was that Nobody knew the shutdown button would act as a detonator.

  • @janeathome6643
    @janeathome6643 4 місяці тому +24

    There are documentaries, but this is an outstanding, largely accurate depiction of what happened and the real people involved. It took decades for the information we have to get out because that is how tightly controlled and deliberately altered the info coming out of the USSR. He committed suicide because he was dying and would have been executed or sent to the Gulag once they found out that he smuggled out those tapes and told the truth.

  • @sirnatesman6946
    @sirnatesman6946 4 місяці тому +8

    I think a lot of people get confused with the official soviet death toll at the end cause the show says unchanged to this day. While that is true, I don't think most younger people who are unfamiliar with this time period know that the soviet union ended in 1991, so of course the official death hasn't changed. The government that gave the death total stopped existing 32 years ago.

    • @youtubewontletme
      @youtubewontletme Місяць тому

      Indeed, but when it dissapeared and Russia came in, they could've redeemed themselves and update it to do justice to the innocent victims, even if it happened in a place that wasn't part of their territory when the urss disolved. It is ironic how Russia wants ucranian territory as their own yet I assure you they won't change those numbers ever

  • @enzog8245
    @enzog8245 4 місяці тому +11

    I really appreciate that you guys try to understand and read between the lines of what you two watch. Media literacy is important people! So many reaction channels I see don't even try to look beyond the surface and just end the video. Good job Mair and Sophie!

  • @isabelsilva62023
    @isabelsilva62023 3 місяці тому +4

    You are the first reactors I have seen address the angle of the true events and the local people as opposed to a foreign production. Your comments throughout the episodes and at the end are so clever, accurate and interesting, the way you were invested in the story I had to subscribe.

  • @chrisjames8234
    @chrisjames8234 4 місяці тому +15

    Chernobyl: The lost tapes on HBO Max are documentary style. It shows personal interviews of people who were actually there along with new footage of the reactor. It was crazy!

    • @frankgunner8967
      @frankgunner8967 Місяць тому

      The lost tapes is important film it even has footage of the helicopter crashing down

  • @PeterDB90
    @PeterDB90 4 місяці тому +5

    I speak Russian and I'm glad they did it in English. This is first and foremost an American show for Americans, so English is appropriate.
    If you ask Russians, they will tell you that this story is propaganda bullcrap and that the real Chernobyl disaster was somehow caused by American espionage or something (not true).
    At the end of the day it was simply a perfect storm. RBMK reactors were actually a pretty ingenious and cost effective idea, HOWEVER they had a flaw, and that flaw would ONLY manifest if the staff took very specific steps to get there - i.e. because they wanted to complete the test, they took the reactor to its absolute limits thinking there was a failsafe, but in doing so they did exactly what was necessary for it to explode. Had this reactor been on US soil, the explosion would not have happened and we likely wouldn't have found out about the flaw, because people in US tend to follow safety procedures and even if they break them, they don't do it to the extent people in Soviet Union did. Chernobyl happened because RBMK reactors had a pretty hidden flaw that just happened to operate in a country that doesn't give a crap about safety, so with that flaw specifically in the hands of Soviet-minded people is what caused the explosion.
    The reactors in the West (here) are all designed with a failsafe so that even if the staff TRIED to explode it they couldn't - it self regulates so if you push it to the brink, the mechanical side of things on the inside will automatically cause it to reset. This was not the case with RBMK reactors - these reactors had a "positive void coefficient" which means that you could bring it to a state where a positive feedback loop is created so that reactivity increases which causes something that also increases reactivity which in turn creates more reactivity, so it all just piles up until the power surges too high - Western reactors do not have this, but they are also more expensive and require properly enriched uranium as well as heavy water to regulate (which, RBMK reactors can run on regular water with Uranium that isn't as enriched).
    My dad was a flight engineer during Soviet Union and the stories he told me... they would see a warning light and just ignore it - "eh, we don't need that piece of equipment anyway, it's fine if it malfunctions" and they would still take off with the warning light. The planes had specific weight limits and the flight attendants would sell tickets on the side for cheaper to passengers who didn't have a place to sit, so the plane would be like a bus with people standing in the aisles, completely over the weight limit. Just shit like that happening throughout the country, so yeah, if you put a not-so-perfect reactor in their hands they will find the very rare very hidden flaw and cause an explosion.

    • @Wanda711
      @Wanda711 4 місяці тому +1

      I don't know why the Russians are irritated by this series. It left me with a lot more respect for the very big brained people who figured out how to cope with the disaster, especially considering all the handicaps they were operating under. Yes, the behavior of the state was awful, but that system has been replaced, and largely because of this event. I don't see why they should feel defensive about a political system they've already discarded. The scientists, the soldiers, the ordinary people who had to deal with it were really heroic.

    • @PeterDB90
      @PeterDB90 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Wanda711 Because most Russians lament Soviet Union's fall - even if they believe it would be impractical and idiotic to bring it back TODAY, they still believe it was one of the greatest governments ever created and do not accept that it failed of its own accord and always find a scapegoat (i.e. "Americans did it through espionage"). The are completely blind to the fact that the series portrays Soviet people (Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, etc.) as heroic and smart because it comes at the cost of the "state" being portrayed as stubborn and insecure, and they will not have someone besmirch the name of their perfect Soviet Union.

  • @Akopov4
    @Akopov4 4 місяці тому +5

    There's Hollywood comedy about Soviet Union after WW2 "The Death of Stalin". You might find it interesting

    • @janeathome6643
      @janeathome6643 4 місяці тому +1

      That is brilliant! It's a satire, but still mostly true as far as the main events go. The Soviet Union was insane and terrifying.

    • @ineverswag
      @ineverswag 4 місяці тому +1

      hell of a movie

    • @Wanda711
      @Wanda711 4 місяці тому +2

      It's a great movie. A contrast with this show is that in this one they chose actors who really looked a lot like the real people. In The Death of Stalin they hardly resembled them at all.

  • @totchi6
    @totchi6 3 місяці тому +2

    You guys did a good job on this one, you got it now. It's so good watching reactors go from their outrage and naivety to pure outeage by the final episode.

  • @elizaconstantino1354
    @elizaconstantino1354 4 місяці тому +8

    For research, start with the podcast with the writer. He tells how he choose his storytelling: which was factual events, true characters, and which were made-up characters and conflagrated events. He also says what he left out. He acknowledges since his theme is “the debt of lies” he wants to be upfront about what is the truth and what is not. For example the fireman's wife is a true character but the female scientist is a made up character representing all the scientists who did all the hard work under restrictive communication.
    Also, this was aired prior the second Russian invasion of Ukraine, who ‘inherited’ the power plant after the dissolution of the USSR in the late 80s. So, eeeeeeek. All the actors are British or Swedish. It was filmed in UK and I think in a Baltic State that was part of the USSR which is why the town is a carbon copy of Pripyat. There are a lot of other documentaries or autobiographies. But I appreciate this fictional work’s themes of the intersection of control and truth and efficiency. Appreciate, how the explosion happened in such a secretive state but also appreciate how it had to be the same secretive authoritarian state was probably needed was able to solve that problem (ie, the logistics and material, the evacuation, the cleaning of the roof, and the culling, etc - imagine another country trying to clean the environmental damage). It was written pre-Covid, and look how messed up politicians were when trying to enact policies or trying to get people to listen to scientists.

    • @mariaspencer4625
      @mariaspencer4625 4 місяці тому +1

      Part of the show was filmed in Lithuania, which used to be part of the USSR, like the Pripyat area and the KGB prison where the female scientist ends up after being arrested. That kgb prison is now a museum you can visit in Vilnius and can even visit the exact room she appears in in the show. And although not 100% sure i believe Lithuania has a powerplant that is a twin of the one from Chernobyl, i believe the inside of the powerplant was also filmed in Lithuania

    • @iKvetch558
      @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому +1

      @@mariaspencer4625 100 percent correct...the very very similar Ignalina plant in Lithuania has 2 RBMK reactors...though both have thankfully been shut down.

  • @bernardsalvatore1929
    @bernardsalvatore1929 4 місяці тому +23

    This was an EXTREMELY accurate story and it was NOT told from the United States perspective!!
    I think the REASON that NATIVE language was NOT used is because a large majority of people would be DISTRACTED having to READ subtitles or if they did a FAKE Russian accent, people would nitpick THAT rather than concentrating on the facts of the EVENT!!!! So everyone in the show was speaking their OWN accent from wherever the actor THEMSELVES were from!!!
    Personally I like that choice BETTER for the reasons that I stated.

    • @LightMovies
      @LightMovies 4 місяці тому

      It's a good show but not "extremely" accurate. In some points it is over-dramatized because reality is boring to put in a TV show.
      If you want accuracy you should check documentaries about the incident, not TV shows.

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 4 місяці тому +1

      LightMovies makes a good point about how it's deliberately over-dramatized. Remember the helicopter that fell? That didn't happen while they were pouring sand on it. That happened six months later. And it wasn't because of the radiation, it's because the pilot made a mistake and got too close to a construction crane. Another example is the firefighter who held the graphite in his hand. He didn't get burns like that in 10 minutes. He complained THE NEXT DAY that his hand was swollen and red. So the time scale was compressed. (Also, he survived.)
      Yet another example is the three people who went in to drain the bubbler tanks... they didn't have backup hand-cranked flashlights. Ionizing radiation won't kill a flashlight like that. A flashlight is very simple... bulb, switch, battery. Now, if it was a microwave oven or a computer, it would fuck it up. But with a basic flashlight, the worst it will do is shorten the battery life. Then there was Dyatlov himself, who was NOT as much of an asshole as he's portrayed in the show, or the miners who did NOT do their job naked.
      So "extremely" accurate? Not as accurate as you think. Definitely more accurate than the Russian government will admit. Still, I'm not discounting how devastating the accident was, or the heroism of the people who voluntarily put their lives on the line to stop it from being even worse. I'm just saying, parts of the story were dramatized to make them more thrilling.

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому +3

    In reality, Valery Legasov was married with 2 children and eventually 2 grandchildren...his family had a pure bred Chow Chow as a pet...not sure if that matters a lot to your view of him, but you should at least know that the show makers left all that part out.
    If you really want to do more research on Chernobyl yourselves, I can suggest some channels to check out on YT. I cannot say them, or this will get deleted instantly, so I will try to post them below.
    It seems like you folks were looking for a villain of the story, and I would suggest that the biggest "villain" was the Soviet State...who knew from the very beginning in the 1960s that the RBMK reactor design was inherently unsafe, yet chose to build a whole bunch of them without containment buildings anyway. The show mentions the fact that they learned of the flaws in the emergency shutdown system in the 1970s after an accident at one of the Leningrad RBMKs, but does not talk about all of the other accidents and issues with pretty much all the RBMK reactors that were built. The show makers do not even mention that the other 3 reactors at Chernobyl ALL had some kind of significant accident or issue, both before and after the disaster with reactor 4.
    Edit: LOL I tried to post links to the other YT channels below, but YT is either hiding it or deleted it. 😒

    • @iKvetch558
      @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому

      The 2 channels I have found that seem to have the best information on the real reality of Chernobyl are...
      ua-cam.com/video/7zxKjuhU75c/v-deo.html
      and
      ua-cam.com/video/PgUHlvtVsDI/v-deo.html

  • @XxXDestroyer
    @XxXDestroyer 4 місяці тому +11

    This series is actually quite accurate, but it's not meant to be a documentary guys. I feel like that clouded your opinions on it which is a shame, this is Drama Series that won 10 Emmy Awards and it should be critiqued as such.

  • @wavonbarksdale3771
    @wavonbarksdale3771 4 місяці тому +10

    I think the expectation from a HBO mini series isn’t fair to compare to a documentary. The any show is going to be a dramatization of events and this show brings attention to this so that you can on your own accord do the research. Documentaries and shows shouldn’t be compared.

  • @portugalgamermanel3404
    @portugalgamermanel3404 4 місяці тому +6

    Chernobyl disaster was in 1986... And happen again in Japan, 2011... We have to be carefull with nuclear energy and be trabsparent if something happen in your country even that makes you look bad. like China with COVID-19. Because it could impact the all world 😬

    • @iKvetch558
      @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому +3

      Well, the fact that Fukushima Daiichi was vulnerable to a large earthquake/tsunami event was public knowledge for several years before the events of 2011. The issue there was that the upgrades that the government regulators had ordered be installed at Daiichi had not actually been installed...and the cause looks to be both corporate bullcrap/malfeasance and the incompetence of the government regulators in not really pushing the plant owners hard or fast enough.
      Keep in mind that there is/was a 2nd nuclear power plant in Fukushima Bay...the Fukushima Daini plant...and the operators there were able to shut down completely safely. Fukushima Daini had received the critical upgrades that had not been installed at Fukushima Daiichi a few years before 2011, so despite experiencing pretty much the same events as they had at Daiichi, the Daini plant was able to maintain all of its failsafes. My understanding was that the Daini plant had different ownership who had been more proactive than the owners of Daiichi...but Daiichi changed hands a few times ownership-wise, so my reading also suggests that the fact that the upgrades had not been made may not have been communicated to the new owners after their purchase.

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 4 місяці тому +1

      Nuclear energy is still much better than gas or coal. The Japan 2011 disaster as the other guy said, caused by the earthquake/tsunami.

    • @iKvetch558
      @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому

      @@maxsaviation9512 If there is even a prayer of getting enough generating capacity onto the grid to charge all the electric cars folks seem to want us all to buy, we are gonna need to start building as many new nuclear power plants as we can...that is for sure. Not to mention we will need to upgrade the grid to carry all that electricity, or else nothing we do about our generating capacity will matter at all. Really, we have been wasting time not doing either of those for stupid political reasons since at least the 1980s. 👍
      But my guess is that you already know all that. 😉

    • @ryanhampson673
      @ryanhampson673 4 місяці тому +2

      Fukishima had nothing to do with the reactor failure...The problem was building a reactor in a tsunami zone. The backup generators were located in the basements of the buildings and when the flood waters hit the plant it flooded the generators stopping the coolant pumps. If you're going to build a reactor in a flood zone you need to elevate the generators. Nuclear power is still the safest and cleanest energy every invented. You can count on one hand the amount of reactor accidents. Other than Chernobyl virtually no one else ha s died in a nuclear accident. Tens of thousands of people die from emissions from coal plants every year. Solar and wind power are good accessory power sources but the sun doesn't shine every day and wind doesn't blow all the time. The cold hard fact is there isn't physically enough rare earth elements to produce enough solar panels to provide the power we use today. Short of ever getting fusion power working, nuclear fission plants emit zero carbon and built to modern standards they are the safest facilities out there. Look on a map, you might be surprised how many reactors might be around you operating flawlessly everyday. As horrible as it was a Chernobyl event has happened once in the history of the world and there are hundreds of reactors operating everyday without fail.

    • @iKvetch558
      @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому

      @@ryanhampson673 Very well said...only thing I would add is that there are plenty of reactor designs that have been developed that are passively fail safe...even a few that don't even need backup generators to deal with decay heat. So going forward, there is no reason to ever expect anything even like Fukushima Daiichi with any of the new reactors we build, since they should all be orders of magnitude safer than any of the BWR or PWR power reactors that have been in service for over the past 60 years.

  • @h0rr0rshow
    @h0rr0rshow 4 місяці тому +9

    You guys get so invested and animated about the shows. I am invested in your videos 🤣 ❤️

  • @carriesmith742
    @carriesmith742 4 місяці тому +5

    Did you guys recognize Roose Bolton as one of the heads of the trial? Larys from HotD and Maeater Luwin. You guys can't escape! Lol.

    • @shonquesanders4232
      @shonquesanders4232 4 місяці тому

      Yes I was like hey Game of thrones

    • @Big_Bag_of_Pus
      @Big_Bag_of_Pus 3 місяці тому

      I try hard *not* to notice stuff like that because I'm not watching GoT, I'm watching Chernobyl, and paying attention to where I've seen actors before takes me out of the world of what I'm watching.

  • @3twelve206
    @3twelve206 4 місяці тому +9

    11:11 I’m about to subscribe to your Patreon to ensure you saw the scene that acknowledges Boris DID MATTER quite a lot and he explains how fundamentally that man was during this crisis. His character arc is so well done in this show. Let’s not forget where he started. Incredible character for an incredible show.

    • @4yaears
      @4yaears 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes absolutely poor editing. And Sophie with one of her lengthy ramblings talking over one of the most poignant moments of the whole series. I was bitterly disappointed to miss that line too. I cried.

  • @Carrera26
    @Carrera26 4 місяці тому +2

    There's definitely a balance between entertainment value and information. Because this is such a powerful telling, even with creative license, it can communicate the information to millions of people who just wouldn't watch a multi hour documentary. Same with Schindler's List for the Holocaust. It loses detail, it's not dead accurate, but millions can feel some part of the human cost and pain that went with these tragedies because of it. We are creatures of stories, and 80% truth / 20% drama will get much further than 100% truth.

  • @entity22
    @entity22 4 місяці тому +1

    If you search right here on this site, there's a lot of footage from the time, from the few journalists/photographers who were there in the immediate aftermath. There's in fact footage from the cleanup of the roof that directly inspired the scene in episode 4 and looks almost identical.

  • @MaCherie92
    @MaCherie92 23 години тому

    Fucking incredible.
    I just wanna thank you for being so insightful that the U.S. production normally puts Russia or Eastern Europe as "villains". I am from Serbia (Eastern Europe) and we are always portrayed in American movies as drug dealers etc. It's actually such a bad outlook on this part of the world and is very suggestive in nature because while that does exist, it exists everywhere.
    You're the first reactors that I have seen who are aware and fully conscious of the way the foreign production is actually benefitting instead of the people who actually are from there.
    Yall are the real ones for being able to actually acknowledge this and dissect it to the way you guys have.

  • @bathory313
    @bathory313 4 місяці тому

    Wooooooooo love your content!

  • @Dark__Thoughts
    @Dark__Thoughts 4 місяці тому +4

    Hair loss isn't a sign of cancer but radiation damage. The hair loss on cancer patients comes from their chemotherapy, which is a radiation therapy. You basically blast your body with radiation in order to kill the cancer cells, but you also kill a lot of healthy cells in the process.
    And why should this be a documentary? There's plenty of documentaries about Chernobyl out there that you could've watched already, but you only got interested in that topic due to this show, which, for all intends and purposes is actually pretty faithful to the events.
    As far as Russia goes, they still deny the events to this day. And they ARE a pretty bad country, hence why Ukraine wants to get away from them (like many other former SU states), and why Russia thinks that's reason enough to invade them. The whole Soviet Union was built on lies and corruption, a house of cards that eventually crumbled. And a lot of this rotten core still lives on today within Russia, even to a worse extend now under Putin.

  • @boxmulla
    @boxmulla 4 місяці тому +3

    Did you guys reconed Roose Bolton at the Court?

  • @pricemoore2022
    @pricemoore2022 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Chernobyl!!!!😊😊😊😊

  • @melanie62954
    @melanie62954 4 місяці тому +1

    Mila Kunis, Milla Jovovich, and Olga Kurylenko are all Ukrainian born, btw. 😊

  • @robertt9825
    @robertt9825 3 місяці тому +1

    Sophie's absolutely right, it's absolutely dramatized and centered for American/western audiences. But it's not really that far from the truth. At least beyond normal "Hollywoodization". More than anything else it compresses how many people were involved to a couple "main characters" which, wasn't a thing. I also take issue with the depiction of Soviet culture at the time. The Soviet Union certainly had its issues, but it had been changing for decades. The Soviet Union under Gorbachev was far different than that of Stalin. Probably the most accurate depiction here is that you'd be sidelined in your career rather than actually gulaged or killed. This was basically occurring at the Soviet liberalization period prior to collapse. It was seen as bad taste both internally and internationally to just murder people at the time.

  • @BlueShadow777
    @BlueShadow777 4 місяці тому +1

    1. PRODUCTION
    It’s a UK/US production… NOT solely “…from an American point of view” (i.e. US). Not everything is American-made.
    2. LANGUAGE
    If it were made in Russian like you suggest it should have been made, it would have been completely different… maybe better, maybe not as good. It’s a UK/US production and therefore geared towards UK/US production values including choice of actors and actresses (note, they were primarily British). Therefore, the actors’ interactions, the direction, the insight and personal input would have been different.
    3. OBJECTIVITY
    If they’d used original language actors/actresses, the objectivity - if present at all - would have possibly been biased, even if subconsciously.

  • @RostovII
    @RostovII 4 місяці тому +1

    By your critique's of the show, I would guess why people especially in the past fight against communism.
    Communism's power over the people comes from its image and perception, anything that might be wrong or failing is not talked about or publicized.
    About truth, truth is whatever the government and some others define as truth, the same is true today even in the US, to the point that some truths are openly labeled as "conspiracy theory".

  • @micheletrainor1601
    @micheletrainor1601 28 днів тому

    We had animals in the uk that tested radioactive so kept testing for 25 years. Terrifying what happened and thats why Russia messing about with that nuclear power plant in Ukraine scares the crap out of anyone.

  • @lathamorama
    @lathamorama 4 місяці тому

    Hi, I enjoyed your reaction. Having seen a documentary and comparing, I think this is one of the best shows I've ever seen. There are a few choices I wish they made differently. Like the helicopter hitting a cable over the power plant -- lots of people thought the radiation did that. You might like to see the "making of" videos that accompanied each episode. I'd be interested in a retrospective review of the series after you do check out a documentary. I think you'll find that any documentary will not hold your attention the same way.

  • @DavidMacDowellBlue
    @DavidMacDowellBlue 4 місяці тому

    A saw a lecture about these events, and the person noted that that test they were trying to do was never, ever achieved for any RMBK reactor every built. So, the problems involved were very pervasive.
    the real Dyatlov was a very different man, but nobody believed or hoped the explosion would happen. They believed even if something went wrong they had a way to shut down the reactor.

  • @tonikaihola5408
    @tonikaihola5408 4 місяці тому

    I lived through this (by proxy if you will) we weren’t allowed to play outside.
    Also I’ve visited Chornobyl and Pripyat.
    It was a tragedy no matter how you slice it, and there were heroes and bad actors.

  • @zatgeye7320
    @zatgeye7320 4 місяці тому

    They may not be "profiting" but their story that was in the dark has had light shone on it.

  • @BlueLikeWoah
    @BlueLikeWoah 4 місяці тому +2

    What happened to the 4th episode?

    • @MairSophie
      @MairSophie  4 місяці тому +3

      Episode 3 and 4 are combined

    • @BlueLikeWoah
      @BlueLikeWoah 4 місяці тому

      @@MairSophie oh somehow I missed that, sorry

  • @ontarioguyincalgary4845
    @ontarioguyincalgary4845 4 місяці тому

    It's a crazy reality

  • @Cenforge
    @Cenforge 4 місяці тому

    Bravo.

  • @alaskaforever3879
    @alaskaforever3879 4 місяці тому

    In real life Dyatlov was not actually in the control room when they tried to raise power

  • @kingofrivia1248
    @kingofrivia1248 2 місяці тому

    Diatlov was obviously incompetent, BUT he did not cause this accident. He was given wrong information.

  • @Elly_Rose
    @Elly_Rose 4 місяці тому

    I suggest watching Dr. Alla Shapiro's reaction to this TV series (by Vanity Fair), she was one of the first responders after the disaster, and she gives insight into those moments...

  • @thakrratul1109
    @thakrratul1109 4 місяці тому +1

    Better call Saul ❤

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 4 місяці тому +1

    It's not Dyaltov, it's Dyatlov.

    • @az_atheist
      @az_atheist 3 місяці тому +2

      she's only heard it multiple times each episode

    • @isabelsilva62023
      @isabelsilva62023 3 місяці тому

      @heliotropezzz333 Does that even matter? They did a great job throughout the series that should matter more.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 3 місяці тому

      @@isabelsilva62023 It doesn't matter much. It's just annoying enough to point out.

  • @bohemiankhichdi1090
    @bohemiankhichdi1090 3 місяці тому +1

    Fire the editor. Legasov mattered most. That scene was not shown.

  • @punjgurl
    @punjgurl 4 місяці тому

    where is episode 4????

    • @MairSophie
      @MairSophie  4 місяці тому +2

      Episode 3 and 4 is combined

  • @wokkel4852
    @wokkel4852 4 місяці тому +1

    Im a big fan of your genuine reactions, keep on going and the critics can start their own channel if they know how to do it better.

  • @yomama629
    @yomama629 4 місяці тому

    There are some dramatized events to this show. For instance, a helicopter did indeed crash near the reactor, but it's because its tail rotor hit one of the cranes on the roof, not because of the radiation, and it happened much later. Also, Khomyuk was a made up character, as explained in the epilogue. However, the actual events relating to the design of the reactor, the accident itself, the attempts to stop the fire, the cleanup efforts, and the actions of the Soviet government are all extremely accurate. And yes, this show was very poorly received in Russia, where the mentality of not questioning the state is still very prevalent, the government is still very authoritarian, and the truth is very seldom told when it would embarrass either the USSR or Russia. In fact, Russia made its own version of this show where it essentially claims that the accident was actually a CIA operation, which is of course ridiculous, but it's the typical Russian line when they do something wrong: blame the West

  • @ronaldalagia9211
    @ronaldalagia9211 4 місяці тому

    I liked your reaction for the most part, but you talked over some very important dialogue. you really don't need to cut the movie that much to avoid being blocked.

  • @tamarakuklinski4240
    @tamarakuklinski4240 3 місяці тому

    Read Voices from Chernobyl........ It will crush you the real life stories from the ppl who actually lived it

  • @lostwave4880
    @lostwave4880 7 днів тому

    There is always the potential for bias, from the personal level to the state level. It is only a matter of degree of bias. The Soviet union did cover up the whole event, an event that sent radiation around the world affecting everyone. This was a world event in which everyone has a right to express themselves. Yes elements were added to make the "Hollywood" representation/story complete, but at its core, the Soviets did do this, and the failure was completely avoidable, if it were not for the Soviet system. The Soviets were/are so biased in their handling and sharing of the information, that to claim bias on the part of the production company or any other country pales in comparison to the bias and corruption of the Soviet union itself who holds all of the facts, of which not all have likely been released (probably destroyed). It would be the equivalent, and also highly biased, to claim then that the Soviets can't tell any story about anything that happens outside of the Soviet union, and/or without using American actors. It seems that only certain voices (i.e. the U.S.) are suggested to be suppressed but not others.

  • @LadyScaper
    @LadyScaper 4 місяці тому

    It’s not exactly Hollywood.
    This show was created by Craig Mazin. He used to work as a screenwriter for cheesy comedies as that is all Hollywood would let him do.
    He got the information from documents that came out from the collapse of the Soviet Union.
    This is a dramatization, and HBO has to get viewers. It had to be in English, and I think this works.
    I do think the best idea of what happened, is what we can get from an outsider perspective. Only Putin’s perspective is what is allowed in Russia now.
    Russia does not have freedom of the press, Putin has put a clampdown on the free flow of information and he used to be the head of the KGB during Soviet Russia. He is trying to recreate the Russian Empire, complete with all the lies. So, it’s an impossibility right now for Russia to create an accurate documentary.
    Ukraine can’t because Russia has now invaded them. *shrug*
    (I am from a town that has had multiple waves of Eastern European immigrants, escaping Russian aggression during the past 2 centuries. I live 2 blocks from a Polish language church. Everyone here weeps for what Putin is doing to Russia.)
    It’s very hard for younger people who were born AFTER the Cold War to really understand that Russian media can’t be trusted. Russian journalists who worked for state TV had to escape the country because they couldn’t genuinely report that Russia invaded Ukraine. That is the here and now.
    (The Cold War actually didn’t end, it just paused.) Younger people tend to think it’s open media like just about anywhere else. Friends of my parents who escaped the Soviet Union said everyone there knew to not trust the newspapers. Now, people don’t have that media suspicion.
    People really cannot trust what is coming out, media wise of Russia as it’s the same attitude as the KGB had, a propaganda tool. So, Russian mainstream media, is just want Putin wants people to think.
    I have friends whose Ukrainian cousins are fighting in the war against Russia right now.
    Ask some Ukrainians and it’s easy to find out what is happening now.
    Some actors are Ukrainian, and kinda hide it, and Russia throughout Ukrainian history has taken credit for Ukrainian accomplishments.
    Post WWII many people from the Eastern block and literally changed their last names after they immigrated to the west. For example Helen Mirren is of Russian heritage. Her father changed her last name when she was 5 years old. Her original last name is Mirrenov.
    (Older people in my neighborhood will literally stop me in the street and tell me how much communism under the Soviet Union sucked. I am a visible minority, so I think they think I will automatically understand oppressive systems, which… fair.)

  • @iKvetch558
    @iKvetch558 4 місяці тому

    Welcome to the final episode...well done getting through this show...it is a tough one. I really like the way the makers of the show added the notes at the end to cover some of the things they got wrong, simplified, or made more dramatic...I just wish they had done more of that, or been more honest. For example, they say that "it has been reported" that everyone on the "Bridge of Death" died...but those reports are very much NOT true....so technically, they are being truthful, but not quite. Other things they do not admit to, I can understand...such as the fact that Legasov was not even at the trial of Dyatlov and company...but it is kind of necessary to turn him into a kind of hero figure and have him do much more than he really did so that the story can be simplified enough for most folks to keep track of.

  • @joshuacoldwater
    @joshuacoldwater 4 місяці тому +4

    This was not told from the United States Perspective or Point of View, or even a Western Point of View or Perspective. It was told from a scientific point of view and perspective, a historical point of view and perspective, and a humanitarian point of view and perspective.
    As for actors, I think you are wildly incorrect- I mean, it could be the shows/films you are watching. I know actors from Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, India, Russia, UK, Ireland, The Bahamas, Zimbabwe, and Jordan. The thing is- people have to want to act in these areas.

    • @LadyScaper
      @LadyScaper 4 місяці тому

      The show creator and writer is an American. He strongly believes in good research.
      He approached HBO to make the show.
      I wouldn’t say it’s an American perspective at all, especially as they made it in the UK and Lithuania and had a mostly British cast.
      I think it’s as unbiased as one can get in a dramatization from an outsiders point of view.
      Putin to this day still try to create “alternative” version of events, which is sadly what Russia is sliding back to thanks to Putin.

  • @blade3430
    @blade3430 4 місяці тому +1

    Last of us episode 3

  • @melanie62954
    @melanie62954 4 місяці тому

    If this had been funded and filmed in Russia, where many government leaders are former Soviet bureaucrats, including a former KBG president who demonstrated with the invasion of Ukraine that he wants to restore the former glory of the USSR, I doubt if we could trust the narrative. My sister lives in Russia, and most Russian millennials and younger don't even trust the Russian news. And the Ukraine doesn't have a robust enough film industry for a production like this. The U.K. doesn't tend to sensationalize as much as Hollywood does, and this has the feel of a British production--if it were Hollywoodized to the usual level, Legasov would have been played by Brad Pitt, and he would have gone into the water and on the roof to take care of things himself. Plus, the director was Swedish, and Sweden was closer to the situation. I think this is about as accurate a dramatization as could be hoped for. And let's be honest, how many of us would have actually watched a documentary about Chernobyl, much less gone to UA-cam to watch a reaction to one?
    I think it's pretty clear by the end of the series that the "villains" were acting the way they did was because they were conditioned to and/or too terrified to do anything else. It is unfortunate that they turned Dyatlov into so despicable a character, since apparently he was far from it in real life.

  • @derbydriver
    @derbydriver 4 місяці тому

    To be clear, the show’s depiction is NOT entirely factual. It gets a lot of things wrong, both in exactly how the reactor exploded as well as the roles that everyone played.
    Still an amazing show, but you’ll be a little confused when reading the true accounts of what happened.

    • @vanessac1721
      @vanessac1721 2 місяці тому

      Sometimes you have to condense events or create composite characters like with the lady scientist to keep a massive and compli situation like this to a tight five episodes.

  • @SpudBro1
    @SpudBro1 4 місяці тому +2

    Question : are you guys stopping the show while your talking and shouting? Just wonderin… seems like it would be tough to understand important dialogue since you always talkin

  • @az_atheist
    @az_atheist 3 місяці тому +1

    one of my favorite miniseries, this reaction...meh, not very impressed.

  • @rickhunter4050
    @rickhunter4050 9 днів тому

    I like you guys, but aren’t you also profiting off of the movie, while bashing the “United States” for doing the same?

  • @MariotheJedi
    @MariotheJedi 4 місяці тому +1

    English didnt bug me , it was written too well for me

  • @TheBillproject
    @TheBillproject 4 місяці тому

    you learning about communism yet

  • @user-qt9di5xt8k
    @user-qt9di5xt8k 4 місяці тому +1

    22:33 through this whole thing you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about so maybe do research and then speak
    Series like this always change things to tell it in this way
    Just like dahmer
    Tf you going on about making it there than over here
    Want a documentary then
    Watch it
    This is a SIERES No one got offended and took it in for what it is
    Stop virtue signaling because your not making sense