Chernobyl Episode 5 "Vichnaya Pamyat" Season Finale REACTION!

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  • @DosCavazos
    @DosCavazos  4 роки тому +268

    *Sorry about the audio at the end, we had to re-upload due to copyright issues. We think there was a glitch and the new upload somehow got that part muted as well considering the audio is fine in our edited version, we have deleted the previous video so hopefully this will correct itself soon. If the audio is still out on that part, then will include it in the separate video of the reaction to the short documentary at the end of the episode. That video should be posted in a day or two. Thank you!*

    • @cromwellthesynth
      @cromwellthesynth 4 роки тому +4

      If you edit the video so the music part is muted and reupload it should work fine
      UA-cam's copyright protection for music is just broken like that, not smart enough to depict music and voices

    • @adelardj7026
      @adelardj7026 4 роки тому +1

      Please do more Rick and Morty, your reaction to the first episode was great and it's only gets better

    • @Сашадуб-ц3у
      @Сашадуб-ц3у 4 роки тому +1

      In Ukraine, the mortality rate among these brave people increased from 3.5 to 17.5 deaths per 1000 people from 1988 to 2012. Disability among liquidators has also increased. In 1988, 68% of them were considered healthy, and after 26 years, only 5.5% were still healthy. It was reported that the majority - 63% - suffered from cardiovascular diseases, 13% had problems with the nervous system. In Belarus, 40,049 liquidators with cancer were registered by 2008, another 2,833 from Russia.

    • @Cassxowary
      @Cassxowary 4 роки тому +1

      *No worries(: and btw she had her son with a friend of her and her husband because she wanted and needed it and he could give her that but they remained friends and she moved out to the countryside because she got tired of all the attention from this, she just wants to be left in peace*

    • @Cassxowary
      @Cassxowary 4 роки тому

      And I lived in a country nearby until 1990 and grew up taking iodine pills... my friend’s brother was born blind but healthy otherwise thank God...

  • @robinhood5627
    @robinhood5627 4 роки тому +394

    fun fact all the "music" in the show is composed of sounds recorded from Ignalina RBMK reactor which adds to the eerie feel to the show.

    • @azazello1784
      @azazello1784 3 роки тому +11

      that's not fun.. that's depressing

    • @CyberBeep_kenshi
      @CyberBeep_kenshi 3 роки тому +7

      Brilliant though

    • @valkkyrr
      @valkkyrr 3 роки тому +3

      Thats crazy

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Рік тому +5

      "The pipes will be jumping..."

    • @tawogtrailers
      @tawogtrailers 10 місяців тому +1

      Not all the music, but sounds and effects were recorded from the decommissioned plant. The alarms were activated in test mode and recorded to use as the alarm sound effects.

  • @HateMachinist
    @HateMachinist 4 роки тому +594

    Episode 1: "How does an RBMK reactor explode?"
    Episode 5: "This is how an RBMK reactor explode; Lies."

    • @countingtls
      @countingtls 4 роки тому +39

      In Legasov's own word he thought it was more about the system failure (staffs and designs) and structure issue of the (Soviet) nuclear industry at the time, its ambitions and finally the economic cost.
      Below are the original words transcribed and translated near the end of his memoir recordings.
      "And here the fateful mistake was made, from which, specifically, Chernobyl began. What was this fateful mistake? The world accepts the normal standard of safety for any dangerous industry including nuclear power stations. This standard consists of three elements. One, make the reactor maximally reliable. Two, make the operation maximally reliable; trained staff, good discipline, easy-to-operate equipment, etc. And strive for maximum reliability everywhere. But, since the world understands that “maximally” does not mean 100 percent and that there is always a chance of a technical component failing, even the most reliable one, or of a person doing something, by malice or ignorance or by accident, the third element is introduced. Three, all this dangerous industry with a maximally safe reactor, maximally safe operation, must compulsorily be encapsulated; enclosed in a containment as it is called in the West, placed under a cupola as we call it. So, if something, having a low probability but still, suddenly happens, it will remain limited to the area of the reactor itself. All the troubles will be restricted to the area.
      And the main criminals... Of course. those who have already been convicted at Chernobyl are criminals because they committed unthinkable actions and they were convicted absolutely legally. Now the investigation, additional investigation is underway and, I think, will probably judge the designers of the RBMK reactor-at least they should be judged in my opinion-who made at least three grave mistakes in the design of this reactor. Grave mistakes. And perhaps they should bear criminal responsibility for it. This is my point of view but I don’t know how this will turn out.
      But the main criminals are those leaders of energy in the 60s who despite the opinion of experts, and Soviet experts … Say, at our institute, there is corresponding member Sidorenko Viktor Alekseyevich; he is now the Deputy Chairman of Gosatomenergonadzor. He wrote a doctoral dissertation and later published a book at approximately that time, in which he proved the impossibility of having nuclear stations without containments, no matter the type, VVER or RBMK; that it was dangerous and criminal. But, as they say, they spat on him from the big bell tower [a Russian proverb that means to not care] because this made each station approximately 25-30 percent more expensive. And since Gosplan strictly specified the funding for nuclear energy, this would mean 20-30 percent fewer nuclear power plants would be built in a given time.
      "

    • @MDelorean
      @MDelorean 4 роки тому +1

      @@countingtls Very interesting! Thanks for posting.

    • @shinHis3
      @shinHis3 4 роки тому +1

      @@countingtls Thanks. Can I steal this?

    • @countingtls
      @countingtls 4 роки тому +6

      @@shinHis3 You can find the online translated version here, it is now translated to tape 5-a
      legasovtapetranslation.blogspot.com/
      The transcribed version with the original Russian can be found here if you can read Russian or want to help with the translation
      pseudology.org/razbory/Legasov/00.htm
      You can find pieced together recording, someone made one on youtube, from various documentaries and sources, I haven't found the complete sources with all the contents yet, from the Russian transcriptions it looks like some parts are already missing at the time of the transcriptions.
      ua-cam.com/video/qwOpUGgHpyc/v-deo.html

    • @lazyidiotofthemonth
      @lazyidiotofthemonth 4 роки тому +3

      They actually showed a catastrophic steam rupture, the reactor did not explode due to fission, so no. Not a Nuclear bomb. Just a massively overpressured Reactor Vessel and an ensuing fire.

  • @samporter7018
    @samporter7018 4 роки тому +426

    "In memory of those who suffered and sacrificed" that right there hit me to my very core it's so sad what happened to everyone involved this is one of the most important shows I've ever watched

    • @shinHis3
      @shinHis3 4 роки тому +6

      @ Which part is lies? Can't show = you're the one doing the propaganda mate... I tend to err against the USSR because there was no free press in USSR. It makes sense. If this happened in the US you would've heard about it real quick. I mean they even report on nothingburgers and claim news now. Free press has its drawbacks, but it's still better than state-controlled press for this reason - real news competing with fake news is better than news only on things the state allows. Conflicting information > no information.

    • @shinHis3
      @shinHis3 4 роки тому +7

      @ I just skimmed through customer reviews of Midnight in Chernobyl and they contradict what you say. I'd rather trust multiple public reviews from people who have no reason to be lying over you. Here's one quote. "Secrecy and falsehoods by the USSR are evident throughout the account." There are many more like that throughout the reviews. It really looks like you're honoring the USSR's tradition of secrecy and falsehood.

    • @shinHis3
      @shinHis3 4 роки тому +1

      @ I deleted my previous reply because I only saw the first paragraph when I responded to you in that reply. (I didn't click read more). I'm reading your full comment now.

    • @shinHis3
      @shinHis3 4 роки тому +2

      Why else do you think I go to the reviews for? I've got no time to read a book just to answer a question that's why. Geez.
      Wtf you mean I sink so low? I don't have time to read a book I'm gonna look at the synopsis or reviews of it.
      What's the false overarching narrative if it wasn't that the USSR was a state full of secrets and falsehoods then? Wasn't that what you're complaining about? You keep throwing around "false overarching narrative" and keep defending "the state", yet you're not saying they're not full of secrets and falsehoods?
      Just answer this simple question to get started: what's the propagandist lie?

    •  4 роки тому +3

      @@shinHis3 why did you accuse of lying and secrecy? do explain that 1st thing, if you dare reply! and specifically point to my alleged specific "falsehoods" and where i engaged in "secrecy" . don't cravenly run from this like you did before .
      if you can't verify truth by using the sources, that is your problem, not mine.
      and why did you cite reviews of book since not even they contradict any of the things i said .
      where did i defend "ussr" or state ? why do jump to thinking i did , because i said show lies in its main "false propagandist narrative"? not very logical or intelligent are you? repeatedly resorting to this strawman fallacy is pathetic, worthy of a born loser. you labeled yourself.
      if you have a functioning brain, refute what i actually said not what you irrationally and idiotically assumed i said . get it ?
      i said show engaged in lies and distortions to further its overarching false propagandist narrative. and i specified some of these lies and distortions( how did you miss them ? basic reading difficulties? ) .
      contrary to show:- legasov and his scientists weren't involved in investigation, investigation was done by the state, no investigator was imprisoned , there was no dramatic revelation at trial, legasov wasn't in danger of a back room execution because of a revelation that didn't happen, he wasn't even at trial. he was ostracized not by state but by his fellow scientists for reforms he proposed with state backing. etc etc
      i cited "midnight at chernobyl" as the latest, most accessible and respected, verifiable source for all this
      for some unknown and still unexplained reason, you opposed my pointing all this out openly. and instead of refuting me with facts and reason, you vomited lies, slander, and pathetic logical fallacies, against me.
      by your comments, you proved you are a pathetic ignorant irrational idiotic coward and a born loser !

  • @baynenothos
    @baynenothos 4 роки тому +297

    The writer has a podcast for each episode that dives deeper into what's happening in that episode and it's very much worth a listen.

    • @MDelorean
      @MDelorean 4 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @laurenwoods4199
      @laurenwoods4199 4 роки тому +2

      Where can I listen to this podcast?

    • @baynenothos
      @baynenothos 4 роки тому +1

      @@laurenwoods4199 ua-cam.com/video/rUeHPCYtWYQ/v-deo.html

    • @laurenwoods4199
      @laurenwoods4199 4 роки тому +1

      @@baynenothos Thank you!

    • @neddyladdy
      @neddyladdy 2 роки тому

      It would be nice to know where!

  • @deanhibler3117
    @deanhibler3117 4 роки тому +192

    Dyatlov was actually a very smart man. He was admitted at the Moscow Engineering and Physics Institute where he graduated in 1959 with honors. Chernobyl was not Dyatlov's first nuclear disaster, he had actually been in another one years earlier, when he was a nuclear engineer at a naval base that fitted reactors into Subs. .
    He received a pretty steep dose of radiation, a dose that theoretically could have killed him there but it didn't, the guy was tough, but his son died about a year later of leukemia, and there was an implication that whatever contamination Dyatlov experienced, he may have brought home with him and it may have impacted his son's health. Many have said that he fought his own internal struggle against the atom and wanted to master it for what it had done to his family.

    • @deanhibler3117
      @deanhibler3117 4 роки тому +14

      @@jazzycat8917 Well that may well be, however I suggest anyone interested in the subject read the excellent Midnight in Chernobyl: the untold story of the worlds greatest nuclear disaster. There is an entire chapter devoted to him. Interviews with former staff from Chernobyl as well as others that knew him. No one will know for certain as the man is dead. I certainly am not making excuses for his actions just trying to add some perceptive. Few people are one dimensional villains per say.

    • @AdamBorseti
      @AdamBorseti 4 роки тому +3

      @@deanhibler3117 fantastic book. I think it's an important companion piece to the show, and have been recommending it to anyone who enjoyed the show.

    • @jackforpresident22
      @jackforpresident22 4 роки тому +5

      @ThatAudssieGirl relax, just because it wasn't mentioned on the show doesn't mean that it wasn't true. It's a very plausible theory given what the atom did to his family

    • @maksphoto78
      @maksphoto78 4 роки тому +13

      Based on all that I've read and watched, Dean is correct - Dyatlov wasn't a psychopath like portrayed in the series (and all mainstream accounts). He was a strict supervisor, but he was professional and knew what he was doing. The disaster came as a complete surprise for him and everybody else present there. Right from that moment he and others got to work to minimise any further fires and explosions. The blame lies with the reactor design, not the operators or Dyatlov.

    • @marcgyver677
      @marcgyver677 4 роки тому +14

      "Dyatlov was actually a very smart man."
      "Chernobyl was not Dyatlov's first nuclear disaster, he had actually been in another one years earlier"
      *So he fucked up twice - what a very smart man indeed! LMFAO*

  • @palmarisetplantaris
    @palmarisetplantaris 4 роки тому +160

    When this happend i was 10 years old ( West Germany) and remember it very well. It was all over the News in Germany and we kids were not allowed to play in our garden or go into the woods, especially when it was raining. We were not allowed to eat the fruits and vegetables from our garden or eat mushrooms. I was confused because you could not see, smell anything. All the adults were very srict with it. The accident happend in April and a few weeks later I found many mutated dandelions and other mutated flowers. It was very scary as a kid. To this day there are still areas and wild animals with higher radiation in Germany. Sorry for my english.....

    • @mariosvos7323
      @mariosvos7323 4 роки тому +15

      Exactly the same down here in Greece. These restrictions lasted one year. I was in primary school back then

    • @PrinsPrygel
      @PrinsPrygel 4 роки тому +25

      Still to this day hunters in Sweden, in areas affected the most by fall-out, have to carry Geiger counters to check the radiation levels of the animals they fell to make sure it is safe. A lot of animals they fell, especially wild boars, have radiation levels 10-20 times the "safe" limit and the bodies have to be destroyed. As a teen when this happened I lived in the northern part of Sweden. I used to make a fair bit of money foraging for wild blueberries, lingonberries, cloudberries, chanterells, porcini, etc and selling to producers. After the fact we were forbidden to do so. I guess a little late for me, I've fought off cancer twice in my life, so far :/

    • @TheSmittenman
      @TheSmittenman 3 роки тому +3

      The same applies to areas in the UK still

    • @CarrionCrow993
      @CarrionCrow993 3 роки тому

      @@TheSmittenman seriously?! Where?

    • @timdottillis0420
      @timdottillis0420 3 роки тому +4

      Your English is very good; much better than my German.

  • @hristovvv7773
    @hristovvv7773 4 роки тому +158

    No zombies, no mutants, no aliens. Only truth. :)

    • @KiranAlokkan
      @KiranAlokkan 4 роки тому +10

      @@DubBossman1 Means, this isn't some horror series of zombies or mutants to spook anyone, but, the true horrors of what actually happened and the frightening situation of revealing the truth of the Boron rods with graphite tips.

    • @DubBossman1
      @DubBossman1 4 роки тому

      @@KiranAlokkan I get that, but it seems like he's trying to say that films with mutants etc are bad

    • @nathanofthefranks2955
      @nathanofthefranks2955 3 роки тому +3

      it is a great dramatization, but if you know a good deal about nuclear physics, you'd know that the events of Chernobyl could in no way lead to a nuclear explosion. That part is over hyped for the purposes of drama, and making it seem that this event could have wiped out half of Europe if it was not dealt with quickly and that's simply not true.

    • @VORASTRA
      @VORASTRA 3 роки тому +1

      @@nathanofthefranks2955 well, yes, it was thermal explosion.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Рік тому +1

      Managers. The worst monsters in this world.

  • @Dinkdownn
    @Dinkdownn 4 роки тому +80

    Chernobyl is one of the best tv series I’ve ever seen. It was nice to “watch” it again through your reactions.
    Ep5 is my favorite, for obvious reasons. The way it’s filmed, the answers we get, the explanations and lies that get uncovered. It’s pretty masterful. 💜

  • @SweetLou0523
    @SweetLou0523 4 роки тому +94

    I have to give huge props to the woman who did the score for the series, she did an absolutely brilliant job. What really impressed me was her use of the Russian Orthodox hymn during the epilogue. It is titled Vichnaya Pamyat, just like the episode, and it means Memory Eternal (or Eternal Memory) and is generally reserved for funerals. It was the perfect choice for the epilogue as it served as a memorial for the show and also for all those that paid the ultimate price at Chernobyl.

    • @The_OEK
      @The_OEK 4 роки тому +7

      It was sung by the Ukrainian choir "Homin".

    • @N19htcat
      @N19htcat 4 роки тому +12

      Russian? You could feel at least drop of interest and try to find it. I'm just so anoyed, that people don't even know about existance of my country. That gives Russia such great opportunity to steal everything from us, because of the stupidness of the people. Forget about Russia, there's Ukraine

    • @samporter7018
      @samporter7018 4 роки тому

      Shes also oscar nominated for the incredible film score for joker

  • @tonyngo8336
    @tonyngo8336 4 роки тому +68

    Well... Ep. 5 brought the series back to a full circle. I enjoyed your reactions and your take on this series. Thanks. I look forward to all your future reviews.

    • @DosCavazos
      @DosCavazos  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you so much for watching this series with us!

  • @jessm5506
    @jessm5506 4 роки тому +9

    In 1996 Boris Yeltsin gave Valery Legasov posthumously the title of Hero of the Russian Federation. It was the recognition he deserved for the work he did and the sacrifice he made.

  • @davidstephens8543
    @davidstephens8543 Рік тому +5

    The conversation between Shcherbina and Legasov hit me hard... two men who have been in WAR! There is no greater bond that one man can have with another ...

  • @emwungarand
    @emwungarand 4 роки тому +26

    "He gave up what precious little time he had left too" One thing the show doesn't cover, is the reason he had for initially avoiding a full testimony. He had a wife and kids, and any perceived treason on his part would have the punishment visited on all surviving members of his family as well. I'm not sure why they chose to omit his family from the show but they were the biggest factor in him wavering on the truth. He knew he was going to die regardless, but by exposing the design flaw, he could potentially send his own family to a Siberian gulag for the rest of their lives.

  • @dwnkaomwn3953
    @dwnkaomwn3953 4 роки тому +64

    "Why worry about something that isn't going to happen?"
    Me: He probably thought the Soviet Union would never collapse and yet it did a few years later after the Chernobyl incident.

    • @mrgoob76
      @mrgoob76 4 роки тому +6

      *DWN KAOMWN* Mikhail Gorbachev said some time in the mid 90s after it fell that he believed that Chernobyl was the start of the fall of the soviet union

    • @ВасиаткаБезпутная
      @ВасиаткаБезпутная 4 роки тому +3

      I know for sure that in 86-87, at the outskirts of the USSR, they already said that "everything will end soon." At the same time, the local KGB knew it). I think he meant that Legasov simply would not live to see when he could speak.

    • @robinhood5627
      @robinhood5627 3 роки тому +3

      @@mrgoob76 In fact in one interview he also said the cost of cleaning up and building the sarcophagus pretty much bankrupted the USSR.
      They didn't worry about money during the event, they just wrote IOUs to everyone they "borrowed" materials and machinery from. Then when the price tag came in it was almost more than the nation was worth.
      After that the fall of the USSR was a sealed fate.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Рік тому +2

      ​@@mrgoob76 Gorbachev demanded that Chernobyl was fixed as a pragmatic and *moral* imperative.
      Combine that with Perestroika, he tried to make a Good Soviet Union.
      Problem is, a Good Soviet Union is morally obligated to disband itself for what Stalin and his succesors did.

  • @DL2133
    @DL2133 4 роки тому +61

    Bryukhanov was up for a promotion once the test was successfully completed. He was going to promote Fomin to his position, and Fomin was going to promote Dyatlov.
    All those deaths just from the greed of three men, and the secrets of the Soviet government. Smh

    •  4 роки тому +6

      don't believe everything ins show . there are serious probable with the show's narrative .

    • @matth1589
      @matth1589 4 роки тому +9

      The reason they were running the tests was because the Soviet Union was extremely worried about the vulnerability of the reactors if their power plants were attacked in a way that stopped the water pumps. Incidents at other nuclear power plants around the world, terrorist attacks and a pervading paranoia that the USA was intent on attacking them drove them to try and find a solution that would allow the turbine to generate enough electricity to temporarily drive the water pumps if an attack on Chernobyl itself or the conventional plant supplying them, resulted in an instant power cut.
      That's why in the initial stages they show someone sitting in his office believing that the Americans had bombed them. I've seen the actual man being interviewed. He had seen the corridor with wall bowed in that is depicted in the show. What the show doesn't mention is that the wall was 1m thick concrete. He assumed that the only thing that could blow that wall inwards was an American bombing raid. That was his first thought, not that there had been an accident but that they had been attacked.
      There were incentives being offered to complete the tests, but it was the Soviet Union, the men would have known that protracted failure would have landed them in serious trouble. Dyatlov was already facing disciplinary issues about his behaviour, and had been heavily investigated in a previous incident working on military nuclear powerplants.
      Add together the death of his son, the damage previous irradiation had done to his health, the strain of being the target of military investigation and being tasked with making the turbine solution work by an authoritarian regime that saw failure as potential sign of dissension and it's perhaps not a surprise that they guy was known for losing his temper.
      Like most things in the Soviet Union, the most powerful driving force was probably fear rather than greed.

    • @XiyuYang
      @XiyuYang 4 роки тому +5

      That's what the show wants you to believe. The reason why they are running these tests, was the government wants to make sure the plant can stand bombing in an air assault (Israel bombed a plant in Iran just a few years before Chernobyl). The show, while having terrific production value and overall well executed, is far from a documentary and shouldn't be treated as such.

    • @TheCabrakan
      @TheCabrakan 4 роки тому +4

      @@XiyuYang The npp that bombed by Israel was not in Iran. It was in Iraq. Osiraq reactor. Go check it out "Operation Opera".

    • @chrisk.7418
      @chrisk.7418 2 роки тому

      To be honest, if I was an expert and me and every other expert I know would conclude that the emergency stop would always cause a safe stop then I would probably take more risks, too.

  • @sagitswag1785
    @sagitswag1785 Рік тому +2

    This is one of the best edited reactions of the show ive seen! All the important moments were left in, and all my favorite moments bar a few were also kept in! Thanks for the reaction!

  • @princeoftonga
    @princeoftonga 4 роки тому +35

    Such a great show! I congratulate you guys for managing to get through such an emotionally draining thing. At least I was drained afterward. The last line is so appropriate in today’s times “what is the cost of lies?”

    • @DosCavazos
      @DosCavazos  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks! It was tough at times but overall we are so glad we watched it! So amazing.

    •  4 роки тому +2

      unfortunate that show with theme of “what is the cost of lies?”, lied with its main overarching narrative preferring propaganda over truth..

    • @princeoftonga
      @princeoftonga 4 роки тому

      So what propaganda are you talking about? What is the truth? What really happened at Chernobyl?

  • @RomanyGypsy92
    @RomanyGypsy92 4 роки тому +16

    The title of the episode translates to "Eternal Memory" which is roughly equivalent to, but even more heartwrenching than, "rest in peace."

  • @shihonage
    @shihonage Рік тому +1

    I grew up in Moldavian SSR, part of USSR. I remember seeing the Chernobyl disaster announcement on our TV. It lasted 15 seconds. Nobody knew the true extent of what happened, for a long time.
    My dad as an army reservist was sent to clean up Chernobyl, but he was sent back from the staging site by his commander, who realized that my dad had a family.

  • @CyberBeep_kenshi
    @CyberBeep_kenshi 3 роки тому +4

    I live in the Netherlands, and those two humble men on that bench saved perhaps even my life. Hero is an understatement....
    This series respected the intelligence of the viewers as well, not dumbing it down, or do action music. Just that insanely eerie music composed from nuclear reactor sounds. That composer is a genius

  • @DavidBusa
    @DavidBusa 4 роки тому +14

    I was born 19.6.1986 in Czechoslovakia (that time) so I'm little bit Chernobyl child. And even nowadays we can find residues of radiation in our country (Czech Republic), especially inside of mushrooms and some animal bodies (like wild boars and other). It's fascinating watching reactions of people living far from our country and learning of this disaster. I know, some things in series were dramatized, but the truth is there and simply reflects the soviet regime. Thank you for your reactions.

  • @demyanrudenko
    @demyanrudenko 10 місяців тому +1

    14:05 he reiterated the same question, but he stopped Legasov because there's protocol for how court hearings are conducted. Witnesses present information, they don't ask questions.

  • @joshuawebb5891
    @joshuawebb5891 3 роки тому +3

    The name of the episode in English, and the song at the end is "Memory Eternal".
    It's a prayer sung at a funeral in Eastern Christian churches . The idea being that the prayer is asking God to remember those who have died , and welcome them into Heaven .

  • @carriesmith742
    @carriesmith742 Рік тому +1

    I was 9 years old when this happened. It was a little over 4 months after the Challenger Space shuttle exploded, so the US and the USSR both took big scientific hits in 1986.

  • @gunslinger11bravo
    @gunslinger11bravo 4 роки тому +73

    Seriously you should watch The Expanse you'll get to see Jared Harris' amazing range as an actor.

    • @Blizzard0fHope
      @Blizzard0fHope 4 роки тому +5

      or fringe. . he's amazing in fringe too

    • @krashd
      @krashd 4 роки тому +3

      The Terror is where he shines though, he only has small parts in The Expanse and Fringe but he's the protagonist in the first series of The Terror.

    • @generalsaufenberg4931
      @generalsaufenberg4931 4 роки тому

      yep, and mad men to. its funny, that his character died the same way twice^^

    • @scottwhitley3392
      @scottwhitley3392 4 роки тому +2

      Paul Ritter the guy who plays dyatlov is actually known as a comedy actor in the U.K. would you believe 😂

  • @AverageGamer2024
    @AverageGamer2024 4 роки тому +65

    The 2 dislikes are from the KGB 👀

    • @zahrans
      @zahrans 4 роки тому +3

      @ Same. I liked the show also but best to remember it's a show made for entertainment purposes and it's not something to be taken as a 100% accurate documentary (although many will). For example Dyatlov wasn't a know it all psychopath as portrayed in the show.

    • @zaiminnosi2905
      @zaiminnosi2905 4 роки тому

      Nah, I believe it was Dyatlov and another his duplicate account

    • @AverageGamer2024
      @AverageGamer2024 4 роки тому

      It was meant as a joke lol, but sure I appreciate your views and opinions on the subject. I accept the show is made for entertainment purposes - I do think it raises awareness to the event.

    • @fodsaks
      @fodsaks 3 роки тому +1

      No they are not. We are not monitoring these comments at all.
      Go about your business.

  • @Luemm3l
    @Luemm3l 4 роки тому +4

    ironically, the water probably has done most to protect the divers, since it is not only a moderator, but also neutron capture and shields radiation (least alpha and beta) pretty good. for that reason also old fuel rods are stored in water, even if you fell in one of these pools, it would be hot, but you wouldnt receive more radiation dose than anywhere else on earth. also, wildlife thrived pretty much in chernobyl after being a bandoned for so long. tthere are a lot of documentaries out.

  • @derred723
    @derred723 4 роки тому +32

    It's my understanding they toned down the shooting of pets. One thing i've heard is the shooting of puppies is a real story but in reality, they ran out of bullets and had to kill them by hand. Could you imagine the emotional toll that would take on people conscripted to do the work. It's my understanding that they decided not to have that aspect in the show because it was just too much.

    • @maujo2009
      @maujo2009 4 роки тому +1

      I also understand that many actually kept some of the pets and renamed some of them "atom" or "roentgen".

    • @azazello1784
      @azazello1784 3 роки тому

      how do you run out of bullets? it wasn't 17th century... it's easy to make more

    • @CarrionCrow993
      @CarrionCrow993 3 роки тому

      They decided right.

    • @CarrionCrow993
      @CarrionCrow993 3 роки тому +1

      @@maujo2009 i would, but id be arrested once they noticed my suspiciously bulging bag, coat, trousers, hat, and socks.

    • @michaelccozens
      @michaelccozens 3 роки тому +3

      @@azazello1784 In time for their immediate use in the Chernobyl sector? I don't think you understand the difficulties immense short-term demands create for logistical systems. 1 bullet is easy to make quickly; enough for an army of 750 000? Not so much.

  • @botwitaprice
    @botwitaprice 2 роки тому +1

    The event that took place then I only heard partial things that didn't make sense before; this show explained it so clear. Mistake 1: The cheapest way 2. Don't worry about safety, nothing will happen 3. It did happen.

  • @steeltrap3800
    @steeltrap3800 4 роки тому +3

    My late partner grew up in what was Leningrad, now once more St Petersburg, and she and her parents left Russia and came to Australia in 1991 when she was 17. I've had fascinating conversations with them about life in the Soviet Union, the good and the bad (despite the many awful truths, there were some interestingly good things about it, too). Would love to have watched this with them. Fantastic series with generally excellent attention to the major 'truths' and largely acceptable compromises for dramatic reasons. The one thing I thought was unnecessary was the ridiculous exaggeration as to the likely effects of the potential explosion had the meltdown reached the water in the tanks; even the most powerful hydrogen bombs would not have had such effects.
    Minor quibble aside, brilliantly done. Over the top characters, violence, sex and an excessive reliance on special effects can't get close to good storytelling, scripts and acting when it comes to compelling and weirdly 'entertaining' drama.

  • @davidrajtr8332
    @davidrajtr8332 4 роки тому +1

    There is one more reason why the Soviet Union built RBMK reactors. Because the reaction produces plutonium which can be extracted from spent fuel and used in nuclear bombs. In 1965, the Soviet Union had a little over 5,000 bombs and two RBMK reactors as opposed to some 30,000 bombs that the Americans had. But in 1986, at a time when all RBMK reactors were finished (the majority were completed in 1980), the Soviet Union had 40,000 bombs. RBMK reactors also served as a plutonium factory.

  • @michaelccozens
    @michaelccozens 3 роки тому +2

    The reason they were rushing the safety tests is that they had already lied and said they'd been completed as part of the initial construction. They did this in order to claim bonuses. If it was discovered that the tests had not been completed as claimed, they likely would have faced criminal prosecution. The problem wasn't the youth of the senior tech; it was the fact that the night shift had not even been warned about the test taking place, let alone trained to carry it out properly.

  • @Di_ROSSO
    @Di_ROSSO 4 роки тому +4

    A curious fact is that, a few years before, Diatlov used to work in a nuclear submarine, and he had a similar incident with the submarine core, which left him severe health damage related with radiation.

  • @derred723
    @derred723 4 роки тому +11

    I'm in my 40s. I remember the incident. It was on the news. But five channels of 24/7 news wasn't really a thing yet. But it was still a MASSIVE story. I had started college when you guys were born. Man i'm old lol. Regardless yeah, many people might not realize what an impact it had. It's the sort of thing that scared America away from fully embracing Nuclear power along with Three Mile Island. But consider people born in the 2007 might think 9/11 was ancient history but if you're old enough you really understand how big an impact it had on US foreign policy, on the middle east, on the views of some Americans about Muslims, etc, etc. etc.

    • @revylokesh1783
      @revylokesh1783 4 роки тому +1

      I'm 39. I was in Kindergarten when it happened. I live in Europe, and I remember not being allowed to play outside, especially not when it rained.

    • @falsenostalgia-shannon
      @falsenostalgia-shannon 4 роки тому

      Der Red - All of this! I’m your age, and agree that while we didn’t have a variety of 24/7 news for instant information, this was HUGE. The first few times I saw UA-cam reactions to this series, I was stunned because the people immediately said they’ve heard the word Chernobyl and knew it had something to do with radiation - but that’s all. They were always quite young, so I assume they don’t teach about it in school, at least in the US? Wow. (I was grateful when this couple began the series and she said she had previously studied the events on her own!) I’m a history geek, so my 12 year old knows about it. I’m glad I made sure she learns about important events. By the way, she was born the exact year you mentioned and I can confirm that 9/11 is ancient to them. When she was in 5th grade, they had an assignment to interview someone who was alive when 9/11 happened (and old enough to fully remember the events and aftermath). I made sure she interviewed me, especially after hearing the way it’s taught (or should I say the version they’re taught; we’re in the south, after all...).

    • @falsenostalgia-shannon
      @falsenostalgia-shannon 4 роки тому

      Der Red - Forgot to mention that I grew up in Pennsylvania, near Three Mile Island. My mother had our bags packed and in the car, waiting for the word to leave from my dad (who was a policeman).
      Also wanted to say (this part is regarding 9/11) that shockingly, a close friend of mine who is 30 was completely unaware of many details. Her reason was that she was a young teen at the time 😳.

  • @ct5625
    @ct5625 4 роки тому +5

    It's a hard show to watch, but I think it's one of the most important shows produced in the last thirty years. Not only is it right that the heroes of this story be named and presented, but the villains should be remembered for their arrogance, greed and ignorance. I think it's also very important in these times to see what happens when you have a cult of ignorance in control of a nation. There are a lot of parallels between the Soviet Union then and America today, and it only seems to be getting worse.

  • @LisaLynn71
    @LisaLynn71 4 роки тому +3

    So glad you both enjoyed this show, it was devastating but so freakin good, looking forward to the next show..

  • @josephbabbs645
    @josephbabbs645 3 роки тому +2

    The very last part of the last episode where it goes through really footage and the figures that were hidden from the world I was in complete silence and lost for words literally couldn't make a sound to save my life

    • @red_sky_
      @red_sky_ 3 роки тому +1

      Chernobyl 1986 Deaths
      Aleksandr Akimov - Unit 4 Shift Leader
      Yuri Y. Badaev - SKALA Operator
      Anatoly I. Baranov - Electrical Engineer
      Nikolai S. Bondarenko - Oxygen,Nitrogen Supplier
      Vitaly I. Borets - Block Shift Leader
      Vyacheslav S. Brazhnik - Senior Turbine Operator
      Viktor Bryukhanov - Plant Director
      Vladimir A. Chugunov - Deputy Director
      Razim I. Davletbayev - Deputy Head Of Reactor 4
      Viktor M. Degtyarenko - Operator
      G. A. Dik - Operator
      M. A. Elshin - Thermo Operator
      Nikolai M. Fomin - Chief Engineer
      Sergei N. Gazin - Turbo Generator Engineer
      Mihail Golovnenko - Firefighter
      Vasily I. Ignatenko - Firefighter
      Yakaterina A. Ivanenko - Police Guard
      Aleksander A. Kavunets - Turbine Repair Chief
      Grigori M. Khmel - Firefighter
      Valery I. Khodemchuk - Main Pumps
      Viktor M. Kibenok - Firefighter
      Igor Kirschenbaum - Turbine Operator
      Yuri I. Konoval - Electrician
      A. P. Kovalenko - Reactor 4 Supervisor
      Aleksandr H. Kudryavtsev - SIUR Trainee
      A. A. Kukhar - Chief of Electrical Lab
      Anatoly K. Kurguz - Operator
      Nikolai G. Kuryavchenko - SKALA Computer Operator
      Aleksandr G. Lelechenko - Deputy Chief of Electrical Shop
      Viktor I. Lopatyuk - Electrician
      Klavdia I. Luzganova - Police Guard
      G. V. Lysyuk - Electrician Engineer
      Gennady P. Metlenko - Senior Electrical Engineer
      Aleksandr A. Nekhaev - Diver to open valves
      Oleksandr V. Novyk - Turbine Inspector
      Ivan L. Orlov - Physicist
      Kostyantyn H. Perchuk - Turbine Operator
      Valery I. Perevozchenko - Foreman
      Aleksandr Petrovsky - Firefighter
      Georgi I. Popov - Vibration Specialist
      Vladimir Pravik - Firefighter
      V. A. Prishchepa - Firefighter
      Viktor V. Proskuryakov - SUIR Trainee
      Boris V. Rogozhkin - Block Shift Leader
      Aleksei V. Rysin - Turbine Operator
      Volodomyr I. Savenkov - Vibration Specialist
      Anatoly I. Shapovalov - Electrician
      Vladimir N. Shashenok - Auto Systems Adjuster
      Anatoly V. Shlelyayn - SKALA Computer Operator
      Anatoly A. Sitnikov - Deputy Chief Engineer
      Viktor G. Smagin - Shift Foreman
      Boris Stolyarchuk - Senior Control Engineer
      Leonid Telyatnikov - Firefighter
      Volodymyr I. Tishchura - Firefighter
      Nikolai I. Titenok - Firefighter
      Petr Tolstiakov - Firefighter
      Leonid F. Toptunov - SIUR Senior Engineer
      Yuri Tregub - Shift Leader
      Arkady G. Uskov - Reactor Operator
      Mykola V. Vashchuk - Firefighter
      V. F. Verkhovod - SKALA Computer Operator
      Yuri A. Vershynin - Turbine Inspector
      Aleksandr Yuvchenko - Senior Mechanic

  • @Spartanz1170
    @Spartanz1170 4 роки тому +3

    Before he died, Dyatlov gave one final interview, its on youtube.

  • @johannesschilling2611
    @johannesschilling2611 4 роки тому +1

    Was a 8 year old boy in western Germany when the reactor blew up. Grew up to get a NBC Sergeant later. Still gives me the goosy bum bumps.

  • @Rafa-pr5fe
    @Rafa-pr5fe 4 роки тому +2

    In the case of the Chernobyl disaster, there was one more element that was not fully shown. In the nuclear power plants in the USSR, there was a possibility that the staff could turn off automatic security systems and reactor shutdowns. This was impossible in Western power plants. And this is what the crew of reactor number 4 in Chernobyl did. Interestingly, it made by shift, which was to carry out the test, although it did not require it at all. Therefore, the computer could only display messages and not work. Why was this done? That the alarm system would not annoy employees for example by activating alarms. This disaster was also the result of a general work culture in the Soviet Union. This does not change the fact that the last episode of this great series, shows well how the disaster happened. Especially people not familiar with atomic physics, i.e. most viewers. For example, I know about the opinion of the employees of the Polish Institute of Atomic Energy that the series, with minor exceptions, is very scientifically accurate. I also recommend listening to the podcast with the writer of the series about individual episodes. The one about the last episode is particularly interesting.

  • @safespacebear
    @safespacebear 4 роки тому +11

    I'm so glad you two enjoyed it. I was blown away and will forever remember these heroes, not just of the Soviet Union but of humanity.
    KGB Man: "it will be exceedingly impossible to know that you ever lived"
    2019: Fuck that noise!!! Valery Legaosov and Boris are international heroes.

    • @safespacebear
      @safespacebear 4 роки тому +1

      @ okay Putin

    •  4 роки тому

      @@safespacebear typical craven born loser response when faced with facts and reason . if you are not such an ignorant herd animal, why not refute me using facts and reason ?
      btw russian state media loves the show. it must be frustrating to be you, being so impotent as to ignorantly misfire even insults .

    • @LuisRdzG10
      @LuisRdzG10 3 місяці тому

      They were already since at least 1996... when posthumously received their honors.
      CIA is probably worse than KGB in those criminal acts. Ask Snowden

  • @сатисфашон
    @сатисфашон 4 роки тому +2

    My neighbor was there during the accident, he was among those soldiers that were sent to put it out.he died last week

  • @MegaMerdeux
    @MegaMerdeux 4 роки тому +2

    Ironically they spent more money and people managing the chernobyl disaster than if they actually decided to properly build a nuclear reactor.Like my mom always say "Lo barato sale caro" roughly "meaning cheap things eventually turn expensive"

  • @michaelccozens
    @michaelccozens 3 роки тому +1

    "When the bullet hits your skull, what will it matter why?"
    Death is inevitable. Death with honour is not.

  • @davedahl4461
    @davedahl4461 4 роки тому +4

    Scherbina was a hero again later, when the major earthquake struck Armenia, Scherbina organized, the relief effort.

    • @cfinley81
      @cfinley81 Рік тому +1

      Yep and they had a statue of him put up in his honor.

  • @rockerctereo2851
    @rockerctereo2851 4 роки тому +2

    That last episode was amazing how they laid it all out.

  • @hi14993
    @hi14993 4 місяці тому

    The reason that I heard they used graphite tips was based on the theory that if you are pulling it out, you want more reactivity. Therefore graphite tips is helpful to increase reactivity. Not because it was cheaper.
    Remember you are removing the "brakes" because you want to step on the "gas".

  • @brianrecinos3914
    @brianrecinos3914 Рік тому

    At the time I saw this ending, I was being reminded of what I read about our own nuclear accidents, (not counting what happened at 3 Mile Island in Pennsylvania). I was reminded of what I read about the Nevada test site where civilians in Arizona and Utah were affected with nuclear fallout from said test site and Bikini Atoll where the local fishermen were also hit from fallout.

  • @demopem
    @demopem 4 роки тому +4

    Great reactions! I was 25 when this took place, and I live an hour's drive from the nuclear plant in Sweden where the fallout was first detected outside the Soviet Union. Their safety screening alarms went off at a shift change so they first thought they had a problem in the plant, but soon realized that the workers brought it in with them from the outside. (It had rained that night.) Nothing nearly as serious as in the near vicinity of Chernobyl, but in some areas things still have to be tested to be deemed safe for consumption, like mushrooms, reindeer meat, and some wild game.

    • @InkanSpider
      @InkanSpider 4 роки тому

      Jag bor i Gävleborg där det slog ner som mest. Många spekulanter anser att antalet cancerfall här kan kopplas till Tjernobyl, vilket jag tror är väldigt troligt. Roligt att se fler svenskar här!

  • @maksphoto78
    @maksphoto78 4 роки тому +1

    The truly unexpected (for you) fact was that the AZ-5 button was meant to be pushed, as part of the experiment. This button was used to shut the reactor down for maintenance. It was meant to be pushed right at the start of the experiment. but Akimov was a bit late with ordering the pressing of it.

  • @silverspike1
    @silverspike1 4 роки тому +6

    A superb series. I can honestly say the best I've seen in decades and a suspect we will not see It's like again.

  • @mix6809
    @mix6809 4 роки тому +1

    i had watched this series before, but loved watching it again with u guys. tnx...

  • @Georgestella100
    @Georgestella100 4 роки тому +5

    Believe it or not the Russian government hates this series and have called it 'an insult to the Russian people'. They say they intend to make their own series, the Director of which has said will show that an American CIA agent infiltrated the plant and caused the explosion! Great reactions. Get hold of the book 'Voices from Chernobyl' nd listen to the podcasts on YT.

  • @patrickholt2270
    @patrickholt2270 4 роки тому

    I was in secondary school at the time. I remember the reports about birds dropping out of the sky, and the TV news footage from outside the plant when the helicopter crashed. From what I recall, we knew it was bad, but we didn't know how bad it was or could have been. The idea that if a reactor explodes and it isn't quickly brought under control and buried under boron and concrete that it can keep on irradiating the world for hundreds of miles around itself is terrifying. It makes me think that we have to shut them all down forever, because in the event that civilisation collapses for any reason, like climate change or a disease pandemic or an EMP attack or whatever - there are so many things which could cause a collapse - they could start to run out of control, with a nationwide power outage for instance, so the computers and engines for moving the control rods etc stop working, and like Legasov is portrayed as saying "until the entire continent is dead." And the one at Fukushima is now regularly pumping vast amounts of radioactive water into the Pacific because there's only so much volume in the overflow reservoirs and they can't fix the plant (they have "no plan" for how to shut it down and render it safe, the last I heard). So, you know, another thing requiring drastic change and immediate effort which isn't getting it because politics and money and reasons and stuff.

  • @johnnyd1790
    @johnnyd1790 2 роки тому +1

    If they needed to make that damn test, they should've tuened the reactor to nominal output of 3200 MW for those 10 hours delay, not let it at a nonstandard 1600 half power. And the 4th test would've runned at worst like the 1st 3 failed ones, no catastopher, no lives taken. But for incompetence...

  • @fritzt0815
    @fritzt0815 3 місяці тому

    The US wasn't affected by this accident - Europe was. I remember my mother very suddenly calling me into the house while I was playing in our sandbox. It was supposed that the sand on public playgrounds and sandboxes at home could be radioactive through the rain. Not a nice thing to remember as a kid back then.

  • @dangi79
    @dangi79 4 роки тому +2

    I watched an interview to the director of this incredible show. When he saw the script asked: "Cool! What is true about this?" And the scriptwriter answered: "Everything".

  • @Enqelar
    @Enqelar 4 роки тому +2

    The staff was not aware of the "design features" of the reactor. They knew and were confident that doing the right thing. Dyatlov conducted tests, thinking that the reactor is serviceable, and AZ-5 will work. The staff also messed up a bit, but if the reactor was serviceable, these mastakes would not lead to an explosion. They did not commit any violations of the regulatory documents in force at that time.
    Subsequently made changes, making many of those erroneous actions direct prohibitions. These actions were really wrong, to call them correct, having now an idea of the mechanisms and processes that led to the accident - silly. But to say that the staff broke the rules, which at that time did not exist. Well, it's probably wrong.

    • @Werrf1
      @Werrf1 4 роки тому +1

      My understanding is that Dyatlov changed the parameters of the test, instructing the operators to lower power to 500 MW instead of the 700 minimum mandated, and that restarting the reactor after the stall should have been done very, very slowly, over several days. If this is correct, then Dyatlov certainly did break the rules. Of course he had no idea that it could result in an explosion, but still.

  • @huracan200173
    @huracan200173 4 роки тому +3

    "That's how an RBMK reactor explodes... LIES"

  • @arze1226
    @arze1226 4 роки тому

    Fun fact. Graphite, uranium e.t.c are still in chernobyl in such amounts that, for example, with One succesfull terrorist attack where napalm or something similar that causes extreme temperature would be dropped together with big amount of water in reactor 4 effects would be devastating. Close to whole Europe could be uninhabitable and deathly amount of radiation would spread trough whole world.

  • @InDebt8
    @InDebt8 4 роки тому +8

    Having watched these two for all five episodes, I can safely say that it is painful. Painful to watch people too young to understand the then Soviet Union and its people. To young to know the KGB. "Are those spies?" from episode 4's reaction. Too young to probably remember the treat of the USSR. Too young to know the fear of hearing an air raid siren going off.

    • @matthewfortuna4464
      @matthewfortuna4464 4 роки тому

      InDebt8 haven’t found a reaction to this show yet that immediately understood the kgb or how someone who obtains total control who originated from that environment? Yeeesus christ.

  • @covlinuxguy
    @covlinuxguy Рік тому

    The one thing that really hits home, is that Reactor 4 was brought online in December 1983, the year and month i was born. Three years later, as I'm getting past my third birthday, This could have caused a disaster that would have caused my family to have to move away from my home in England, if it wasn't for the three guys who emptied the bubbler tanks, most, if not all of Europe would be a wasteland by now. Some scientists predicted the bast would have created a nuclear winter of sorts in Europe, with poisoned rain and nuclear dust storms roaming most of the area. so.....three guys saved Europe......I can live where i live, and breathe the air i do, and enjoy the world i have, thanks to those men.....I think they should be given medals and told...."you dont pay taxes, ore for anything anymore, EVER."....

  • @komandorbentus2731
    @komandorbentus2731 4 роки тому +1

    The most interesting thing is, that a series was created in Ignalina, Lithuana. A sister reactor. The same RBMK type.

    • @derwildewesten6700
      @derwildewesten6700 4 роки тому +1

      The interesting thing is that 9 RBMK- reactors are still alive. The last one will be shut down in the year 2050.

    • @swokatsamsiyu3590
      @swokatsamsiyu3590 2 роки тому

      The Ignalina RBMKs were even more powerful than the Chernobyl RBMKs. They could produce 1500 MW of electricity, those in Chernobyl 1000 MW. The Ignalina reactors were closed under pressure from the EU because Lithuania wanted to join the EU. They were as safe as an RBMK can be, with lots of improvements made. They had a lot of life left in them when they were closed so callously. Lithuania went from completely energy Independend to having to import expensive energy from elsewhere.

  • @DavidMacDowellBlue
    @DavidMacDowellBlue 4 роки тому +9

    I would love to see you two react to THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE as well as GENTLEMEN JACK and maybe the t.v. series WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS.

    • @IndyMotoRider
      @IndyMotoRider 4 роки тому +2

      Oh hell yeah. Haunting of Hill House. I hope they haven't watched it already. One of the best series I've seen in my 46 years.

    • @falsenostalgia-shannon
      @falsenostalgia-shannon 4 роки тому

      David MacDowell Blue - Another vote for The Haunting of Hill House if they haven’t seen it. I can’t express how much I love it. For anyone who hasn’t watched it because they don’t like horror, let me say that it’s quite different; more like an emotional, intense drama about family that happens to involve a ghost story. Hard to describe. Much more emotional than scary imo.

  • @dankefurnichts
    @dankefurnichts Рік тому

    i was 6 years old when chernobyl exploded. i can still remember very good to this time. we are not allowed to play outside oder eat fruits and stuff. strange times the 80s...

  • @KyoKiaNexus
    @KyoKiaNexus Рік тому

    i love the drinking horn, impala pinata and yoda behind u guys lol

  • @botwitaprice
    @botwitaprice 2 роки тому

    Glad to hear of your BCS plans, think I'll join you. The timing is great.

  • @bizibetiko9778
    @bizibetiko9778 4 роки тому +1

    This was one of my favorite series. It was dark, and at times hard to watch, but it was good on so many levels.

  • @tommcewan7936
    @tommcewan7936 3 роки тому +1

    "It is easy to imagine the enemy is the nuclear reactor, but the enemy isn’t technology. I have come to the paradoxical conclusion that technology must be protected from man. In the past, the time that included the old reactors, the time that ended with Gagarin’s flight into space, the technology was created by those who stood on the shoulders of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky; they were educated in the spirit of the great humanitarian ideas; in the spirit of a beautiful and correct moral sense. They had a clear political idea of the society they were trying to create; one that would be the most advanced in the world. But already in the generations that succeeded them, there were engineers who stood on their shoulders and saw only the technical side of things. But if someone is educated only in technical ideas, they cannot create anything new, anything for which they are responsible. The operators of the reactor that night considered they were doing everything well and correctly; and they were breaking the rules for the sake of doing it even better, but they had lost sight of the purpose…what they were doing it for."
    Valery Legasov, tape recorded in an interview with Yurii Scherbak, Autumn 1986

  • @talyn5304
    @talyn5304 4 роки тому +2

    Fantastic series, fantastic reactions!! Just really, really well done. Great job, guys!! :)

  • @Ethrax2
    @Ethrax2 3 роки тому

    I remember this vividly, though I didn't understand it at the time, But the winds drifted that shit over Scandinavia, and I was only 7 at the time, but I remember the play grounds being closed with red tape, and big machines scooping out all the sand since the dust was contaminated by radioactive rain. We had to shower each time after playing there, even in the school playgrounds. Farmers had to bury their crops, and we read the paper everyday to read the Becquerel-counts(Basically Sieverts) to see if we could fish in some stream, or pick mushrooms somewhere. My dad was a real fishing guy, so he probably enjoyed being lonely in all the streams since he didn't bother too much with the becquerel counts, much like some people today still don't believe Corona actually exists.

  • @Guthwulf11
    @Guthwulf11 4 роки тому +4

    great reaction to a great show. There is a fascinating interview with Anatoly Dyatlov where he tells his side of the story. It was taken 1994 (1 year before his death). It is worth a watch if you're interested in the subject. The show paints him as a clear villian, the reality might be more nuanced than that. Of course we will never know for sure. In my mind, Dyatlov is no "villain", he is a human, who (from all what we know) made bad descisions before and after the explosion, but also couldn't know that the failsafe would cause an explosion. So he has an obvious "way out". We all know how our brain tries to rationalize all of our past actions and retroactively brings memories into a coherent story (even if it has to change or surpress some). That happens every day even for little things, but especially if you live through such a traumatic experience. This interview is "his" side of the story with only one goal: clear his own name from any wrong doing before his death. Of course he thinks of himself as a good person, who never could harm anyone or cause such a horrible accident. Was he used as the scapegoat for the accident? yes... Was he the ignorant, quick-tempered careerist as portraited in the series who made inexcusable bad descisions before and after the explosion? Maybe, but maybe not to that degree... Even without knowing the show, in the interview you see lots if subtle signs on how he tries to rationalize the events in his mind. That is what makes the interview so fascinating to watch. Link: ua-cam.com/video/N8__v9EswN4/v-deo.html

  • @dannyrodriguez8841
    @dannyrodriguez8841 2 роки тому +1

    The ending always gets me 😔😔
    Than u guys!!!

  • @PrinsPrygel
    @PrinsPrygel 4 роки тому

    A comment on a few of the numbers mentioned. Regarding the power output, 30 000 MW was the last reading, some estimates puts the final output at 300 000 MW, others speculate that the explosion was basically a fizzled nuclear explosion putting the final output even higher. Regarding the death toll, the 4 000 to 93 000 deaths are the rather conservative estimates, some calculated that the death toll could be closer to 1 million.
    And Chernobyl will continue to kill through cancer for a very long time. Through rain and fallout some parts of Sweden were more contaminated, grazing and wild animals from those parts are radioactive 10-40 times beyond recommended safe levels. This is more than 30 years after Chernobyl, and nowhere near Chernobyl. I can't imagine the situation in the area surrounding Chernobyl.

  • @k.a.p.x3642
    @k.a.p.x3642 3 роки тому

    Look at this place, fifty-thousand people used to live in this city, now it's a ghost town. I've never seen anything like it. - Captain Macmillan

  • @patrioticjustice9040
    @patrioticjustice9040 Рік тому

    "Where I once would fear the cost of truth, now I only ask, what is the cost of lies?"

  • @nikpik216
    @nikpik216 3 роки тому +1

    If you want to read an excellent novel I highly recommend "Midnight In Chernobyl" by Adam Higginbottom. It fills in the holes from the show, and you get a more well rounded view of all of these characters. Legasov had a wife and daughter...and this was why he was tepid about telling truths. Diatlov while still incredibly a jerk to work for was someone who claimed it was the reactor and not his operators that caused the problem. It's easy to read and incredibly entertaining and informative. I seriously have read it cover to cover at least five times.

  • @derianjones1730
    @derianjones1730 4 роки тому

    I live in Wales UK, and we still today have radioactive sheep in the hillsides because of this.

  • @st0ox
    @st0ox 4 роки тому +2

    I recommend watching "dark" after this because it is similar hopeless, sad and brilliant ^^

  • @Theakker3B
    @Theakker3B 4 роки тому +1

    Take a shot every time you say "Oh my gosh"

  • @lawrencegough
    @lawrencegough 4 роки тому +3

    For further info, there’s a good video from last year with survivors, including some of the people in the show ua-cam.com/video/Xw3SFOfbR84/v-deo.html
    Also, there are a few videos that cover the new safe containment building project which are worth checking out.
    Again, the HBO podcast is essential, especially for this episode as it is the one which takes the most liberties with events.

  • @ashwilliams6844
    @ashwilliams6844 3 роки тому +1

    Jared Harris is da best. Loved him in Mad Men and all of the other stuff I'm pleasantly surprised to find that he's in.

  • @dalelapointe9289
    @dalelapointe9289 3 роки тому

    The problem is they created the biggest containment tomb for it but its only going to last 100 years then they will have to make a bigger one to cover this one up they will just go right over it with a bigger one. O yeah the city is abandoned still but there has been reports of wild life starting to move back into the area, as life finds a way reports of Deer and other animals moving into to the wilderness that has become the city.

  • @dxrebel
    @dxrebel 3 роки тому

    And this is why the free media is so important.

  • @SuperKnuckels
    @SuperKnuckels 4 роки тому +3

    at the end the firefighters clothing was in the 500-600s not 60 lol

    • @mscheese000
      @mscheese000 4 роки тому

      Still meaningless without units.

    • @igotanM16
      @igotanM16 4 роки тому

      @@mscheese000 microsieverts. Those docimeters measure microsieverts. Each msv is 1 Rad /hr or .001 Rongeten per hour. So in other words: the firefighters boots equal 600 Xray's per hour on average. A dangerous dose is in the 40's. A lethal dose is in the 300's for an hour of exposure. Those boots should never be seen by another human eye for the rest of eternity.

  • @BoogieWoogie761
    @BoogieWoogie761 Рік тому

    The exclusion zone is a little more then half the size of the state of rhode island to put it into perspective.

  • @ianrand9737
    @ianrand9737 2 роки тому

    I was alive then. It was only 3 months after the Challenger disaster in the USA which put an end to the USA's space shuttle program. There was a whisper in the USA at the time wondering "what if the Challnger disaster was not American incompetence, but a Societ covert opeeration of sabotage?"
    When Chernobyl happened, I wondered "What if this was the CIA's response to Challenger?"
    The more I read about how impossible it was for this incident to ahppen, and about all the inconsistencies mentioned int he accounts of different witnesses, and when i watched the points that had been emphasized as undeniable truth in all the American movies and shows and documentaries made on the topic, reiterating the American point of view, I can;t help wondering again and again about the same dreadful question.

  • @Akademik2012
    @Akademik2012 4 роки тому +4

    I am Russian, and some of my relatives (at that time Soviet people) took part in the elimination of the consequences of the accident, so to me this tragedy is indirectly affected. Thanks to all of them for all the work done to give future generations a lesson. They showed us that our descendants should see the normal world, not radioactive zones surrounded by barbed wire. If we understand this and remember it, it was not in vain. Deep respect and eternal memory to all who selflessly, understanding all the danger to themselves, suffered and sacrificed in this radioactive hell. So that we can live and not know this horror.
    Valery Legasov - was awarded the title of Hero of the Russian Federation posthumously.
    Boris Scherbina in 1988 also participated in eliminating the consequences of the terrible earthquake in Armenia, he did a tremendous job there. 4 years and 4 months, he made it for long, but radiation was stronger.
    General Pikalov ("Then I will go myself") participated in the storming of Berlin in 1945.
    None of the firefighters who arrived first to the fire survived. They died a terrible and painful death 10-15 days later in Moscow, in hospital No. 6.
    Lt. Pravik,
    Lt. Kibenok,
    Sr Sgt. Ignatenko,
    Sr Sgt. Tishura,
    Jr Sgt. Titenok,
    Pvt. Vashchuk.
    Heroes who were able to defeat the fire. They put out the fire, looking death in the face.
    And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of such heroes. If you put a monument to everyone, there won't be enough space on the streets.
    Thanks to all of them. For everything.

    • @matthewfortuna4464
      @matthewfortuna4464 4 роки тому

      Don’t let the brits lecture y’all on the shame y’all both deserve for not honoring y’all’s heroes. The brits chemically castrated alan Turing so they have zero moral high ground

  • @DutchDread
    @DutchDread 4 роки тому +1

    It is important to note that as much as the soviets undersold the danger of Chernobyl, that's how much the west (and this show) exaggerates it.
    For instance, the potential of entire Europe becoming a nuclear waste land by an atomic explosion? Yeah, it doesn't work that way.
    I think this is important to mention because I remember the nuclear panic following chernobyl, and it always bothered me because it's one of the safest, cleanest, and most essential forms of energy we have.
    It has taken a long time to get people back on board with the idea of nuclear power because they have a visceral, unfounded reaction to it, and I've seen a lot of reactors go back to that "WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL USING NUCLEAR REACTORS!!!!" mindset while watching this show.
    What you should take from the show isn't that nuclear power is problematic, it's that the ways things were done in the soviet union is problematic. The reactor itself did great, it gave warnings, it tried to slow down. There had to be a perfect storm of occurrences to get this to happen, including things that could't even happen in a reactor that was built properly. Even so, count up the deaths from nuclear power plant disasters and compare them to the deaths from coal mining, Chernobyl might be more showy, but not more devastating to human health.

  • @2tone753
    @2tone753 9 місяців тому

    I (West German) was 24 years old in 1986. My wife and I had two small children at the time. This accident completely changed our view of generating energy using nuclear power.
    We have opened Pandora's box and, no matter what the experts say, it doesn't take much to cause a catastrophe.
    Just look at the catastrophic behavior of the Russian troops in Chernobyl in the course of the Ukrainian war that is still going on today.
    What really horrifies me is the almost absolute ignorance in a technology-savvy country like the USA about what happened in 1986. This in a country that also uses nuclear power plants.

  • @michaelccozens
    @michaelccozens 3 роки тому

    "Chernobyl" is good education for those who were born after the event, but it's also good for those of us who were alive during it. At the time and in the intervening decades, governments and the international nuclear industry have worked hard to suppress the full extent of the disaster, and how often we came close to the damage being scaled-up from regional to global.
    There should never be a reactor built that has to be legally-exempted from liability insurance in order to operate. When the people with the actuarial tables tell you your activities are too dangerous to insure at any price, listen.

  • @rikardottosson1272
    @rikardottosson1272 2 роки тому

    I love how everybody that watches this is reacting shocked at the actions at the plant as of we know how to run a nuclear power plant. That’s the power of the storytelling

    • @chrisk.7418
      @chrisk.7418 2 роки тому +1

      It's especially interesting that many reactors gasp when the power output is going down, which wasn't the problem at all.

  • @geepersnc
    @geepersnc 4 роки тому

    God I love you guys so much and I'm so glad I found your channel! Can't wait to binge-watch your other reactions! 💖

  • @Sawyer1982OAC
    @Sawyer1982OAC 4 роки тому

    Chernobyl is the best series I don't ever want to watch again. So gut wrenching...

  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus 4 роки тому

    Everyone is so shocked that the three divers survived, but how they survived is pretty obvious, they were given proper protection, everyone you see that dies weren't wearing radiation suits made to handle levels that high, as horrible as radiation is, we have the means to shield people from it, the problem with the Soviet Union was it took short of divine intervention to requisition a paperclip so good luck distributing them to those who really needed them. People as far out as the countryside clearing the vegetation and animals should have been wearing the same suits the Divers in the core got, if they had there would have been few casualties among those who worked in the exclusion zone. As for the civilian population, they should have been evacuated as soon as the plant was reported compromised.

    • @Carl_Isaksson
      @Carl_Isaksson 4 роки тому

      Radiation suits don’t actually shield you from radiation, that only happens in movies and video games. Its shielding properties against radiation are almost the same as regular clothes. What it does is that it prevents radioactive dust from getting in your lungs due to it having a respirator/mask. It also makes it easier to prevent radioactive particles from sticking to your skin and regular clothes which would later contaminate other surfaces.
      The reason why the divers didn’t get exposed to high doses of radiation is because the thick concreate walls around them were intact and stopped most of the radiation from getting to them.

  • @songyani3992
    @songyani3992 4 роки тому

    The reason Ionizing radiation is so lethal is because it directly break the bonds between the atoms that consist all the elements that forms human body, including cells. Take Water molecule for example, Its formula is H2O, Or H-O-H, with bonds represented by - . and those "bonds" works by the Hydrogen atom and the oxygen atom sharing a pair of electrons. What ionizing radiation does is that it provides energy to those electrons shared by the atoms, and eventually after absorbing enough energy, the shared electrons had enough energy to break the attraction force from the atoms and escape. Thus breaking the bond and make that Water molecule structure collapse. This process works for all types of chemical bonds for other molecules as well. It essentially break the basic structual intergrity of human bodies and other objects like buildings, cars, etc. Low enough dose of ionizing radiation could be cured automatically because human body generates new cells periodically to replace cells that failed for what ever reason. But high enough dose of ionizing radiation would exceeds the ability for human body to replenish the damage. And patients suffer from severe radiation poisoning would have higher chance of getting cancer because the forementioned process of ionizing radiation breaking bonds also works on the bonds that holding the two strands of the double helix of your DNA together. It might cause the components of human cell that is resbonsible for correctly assemble the two srands together to incorrectly together, lead to unforeseen and eventually uncontrollable mutations of human cells. And cancers are essentially cells that grow out of control or mutate uncontrollably.

  • @ilyafilru
    @ilyafilru 3 роки тому

    I came across your channel and watched all 5 of the episodes. You seem to be interested in the actual events that took place. If you are, I highly encourage you to go on a tour of the Exclusion Zone once COVID is over. There are many companies that offer tours. You can even stay in a hotel inside the Zone for a few nights. Do a multi-day trip if you can; it's impossible to see all the locations in one day. I was there last year; it was an experience I'll never forget. Also check out Chernobyl museum in Kiev, it will send chills down your spine.

  • @eldawhatever
    @eldawhatever 4 роки тому +1

    I feel like they demonized the men in charge of Chernobyl fot the sake of the show, but nobody really is that horrible. But alas, it was 50/50 on the fault factor, so I guess they sound like greedy jerks to us, that were not there. No matter that, this show was brilliant - over dramatized or not, they did not shy away from pointing fingers - and I can't get enough of the reaction videos. It amazes me how, from all the reaction videos I've seen, you were the only ones in it with someone doing some research. Like Kacee, I was obsessed with Chernobyl in high school and going into the series, a lot of events were not a surprise - like Lyudimilla and the dogs -, but it is haunting to see a portrail of what really happened.
    *Thank you so much for this series of videos.*

  • @red_sky_
    @red_sky_ 3 роки тому

    These are the names of the men that died so we could live in peace NEVER forget them
    Aleksandr Akimov - Unit 4 Shift Leader
    Yuri Y. Badaev - SKALA Operator
    Anatoly I. Baranov - Electrical Engineer
    Nikolai S. Bondarenko - Oxygen,Nitrogen Supplier
    Vitaly I. Borets - Block Shift Leader
    Vyacheslav S. Brazhnik - Senior Turbine Operator
    Viktor Bryukhanov - Plant Director
    Vladimir A. Chugunov - Deputy Director
    Razim I. Davletbayev - Deputy Head Of Reactor 4
    Viktor M. Degtyarenko - Operator
    G. A. Dik - Operator
    M. A. Elshin - Thermo Operator
    Nikolai M. Fomin - Chief Engineer
    Sergei N. Gazin - Turbo Generator Engineer
    Mihail Golovnenko - Firefighter
    Vasily I. Ignatenko - Firefighter
    Yakaterina A. Ivanenko - Police Guard
    Aleksander A. Kavunets - Turbine Repair Chief
    Grigori M. Khmel - Firefighter
    Valery I. Khodemchuk - Main Pumps
    Viktor M. Kibenok - Firefighter
    Igor Kirschenbaum - Turbine Operator
    Yuri I. Konoval - Electrician
    A. P. Kovalenko - Reactor 4 Supervisor
    Aleksandr H. Kudryavtsev - SIUR Trainee
    A. A. Kukhar - Chief of Electrical Lab
    Anatoly K. Kurguz - Operator
    Nikolai G. Kuryavchenko - SKALA Computer Operator
    Aleksandr G. Lelechenko - Deputy Chief of Electrical Shop
    Viktor I. Lopatyuk - Electrician
    Klavdia I. Luzganova - Police Guard
    G. V. Lysyuk - Electrician Engineer
    Gennady P. Metlenko - Senior Electrical Engineer
    Aleksandr A. Nekhaev - Diver to open valves
    Oleksandr V. Novyk - Turbine Inspector
    Ivan L. Orlov - Physicist
    Kostyantyn H. Perchuk - Turbine Operator
    Valery I. Perevozchenko - Foreman
    Aleksandr Petrovsky - Firefighter
    Georgi I. Popov - Vibration Specialist
    Vladimir Pravik - Firefighter
    V. A. Prishchepa - Firefighter
    Viktor V. Proskuryakov - SUIR Trainee
    Boris V. Rogozhkin - Block Shift Leader
    Aleksei V. Rysin - Turbine Operator
    Volodomyr I. Savenkov - Vibration Specialist
    Anatoly I. Shapovalov - Electrician
    Vladimir N. Shashenok - Auto Systems Adjuster
    Anatoly V. Shlelyayn - SKALA Computer Operator
    Anatoly A. Sitnikov - Deputy Chief Engineer
    Viktor G. Smagin - Shift Foreman
    Boris Stolyarchuk - Senior Control Engineer
    Leonid Telyatnikov - Firefighter
    Volodymyr I. Tishchura - Firefighter
    Nikolai I. Titenok - Firefighter
    Petr Tolstiakov - Firefighter
    Leonid F. Toptunov - SIUR Senior Engineer
    Yuri Tregub - Shift Leader
    Arkady G. Uskov - Reactor Operator
    Mykola V. Vashchuk - Firefighter
    V. F. Verkhovod - SKALA Computer Operator
    Yuri A. Vershynin - Turbine Inspector
    Aleksandr Yuvchenko - Senior Mechanic

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale Рік тому +1

      And millions robbed of their retirement years.
      And a _billion_ people struck with cancer across Ukraine and the rest of Europe.