I feel like they should have focused on Obi-Wan and Vader’s relationship with flashbacks and an introspective look on Obi-Wan’s thoughts and emotions on the events of Episode 3. The final two episodes showed how much potential that concept could have had.
Tbh an Obi Wan / Vader series should pretty much write itself… I really wanted an episode of Vader in his Fish Tank and what’s going through his head in those moments alone..
I don’t get the people calling for flashbacks. The same people who have been saying it was too slow. We saw their relationship in the clone wars… there’s nothing left to say really. Flashbacks would have been cool but for fan service only
Well, the final two episodes are a third of the entire series so i think they did succeed at doing that lol, though some of the previous ones could’ve had it for sure. Especially episode 4 that was the weakest and also the shortest
That one part where Obiwan finally sees Anakin's exposed face for the first time, illuminated by the blue light from Obiwan's lightsaber, and he says "I am not your failure, Obiwan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did." made me think that maybe he was miraculously forgiving Obiwan in that moment. But once his face started to become illuminated red and he says "The same way I will destroy you." I was like well shit.
Stop micro analysing everything and just enjoy the show like you’ve got vader and obi wan having a lightsaber duel again how can you not get excited about that being a star wars fan.
As a kid who grew up in the early 2000’s, any scene between Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen brought me so much joy. I like Darth Vader, but I’d love to see more of Hayden as Anakin. A limited series that brings back Natalie Portman as Padme and Hayden as Anakin, expanding upon their relationship whilst on a secret Clone Wars mission would be really cool.
Also scenes where they have chemistry that is miles above the prequels. Yeah, we can still look back and appreciate what they did more as time not only goes on, but gives us shows like these which give better context to stuff that needed more time in the prequels and better handling and execution. However, that is also why we have to remember that there is a reason we still cannot view the prequels as this god-tier level of filmmaking that the things that didn’t make them work as films, since similar issues befall The Hobbit and Fantastic Beasts…more so with Fantastic Beasts.
There is a Vader comic that is set directly after episode 3. They should adapt that into a series. It would be something completely different from what we’ve seen.
Really loved how Vader’s voice phased in and out when his suit was damaged. Tied up the loose end of how Anakin went from sounding like Hayden to James. I know it was always implied but I appreciated the small detail.
@@ryana.g.p.7760 I'm not saying it'd a rip off, yet it added to the overall lore. One side of his mask was torn open from Anakins master, the side torn open by his student. Yet the only one who was able to get his to willingly take off the mask was his son Luke who brought him back from the darkness
It's weird, but the Star Wars prequels are aging very well, and I think that the Kenobi series is accelerating that process. Take Hayden Christensen for example, his casting and subsequent portrayal of Anakin/Vader wasn't met with the most positive of receptions, but now he's beloved as those characters and has cemented his legacy in Star Wars lore. I don't know if I'll be able to say the same about Daisy Ridley and the "Skywalker" trilogy movies lol, but I'll keep on open mind.
I dont understand how anyone can Phantom menace and Attack of the clones are actually good movies. Revenge of the sith on the other hand has always been a great movie imo.
They're not aging well at all, they are still as terrible as they day they where released, but the kids who saw them back when they came out are aging, and they liked them back in the day, because you know, kids. And there's nothing wrong with that, if you like something you like it, but the movies themselves are objectivly bad. Bad writing, bad acting(mostly due to the bad writing) everything looks sterile and clean and boring, the plot is absolutely moronic if you stop to think about it even for a few minutes. I don't actually hate the prequels, but I was never a HUGE Star Wars fan to begin with, I liked the original Trilogy for sure, I think the first 2 are very good movies, while the third is a bit less great imo, but still a very enjoyable watch. When the prequels came out, I was excited to see them ofc, but they felt like a let down in basically every single way, but yeah, I don't hate them or anything, even though they are not good movies.
@@TheOdMan Actually, I WASN'T a child when they released (15-21), and I had enough sense to feel conflicted about them at the time. I'm not a "huge" Star Wars fan either (never saw Ep 8 or 9, no spinoffs), but I believe the prequels HAVE aged well. They have aspects I didn't fully appreciate when they first released. Is part of it still nostalgia for a different time and style? Perhaps! 🤔
@@Jonas-ej7id Ep 1 and 2 always lacked the more sophisticated qualities of the original trilogy (script, story, acting, etc), but they make up for it with atmosphere and spectacle. There's something to be said when I still want to re-watch a "bad" movie...
@@joshhunt4146 The Force Awakens was alright on its own, but I don’t think it can compare to the pure creativity of the prequels. Revenge of the Sith in particular is a film I enjoy far more than any of the sequel trilogy. Of course, that’s just my opinion though.
@@domphilbrick yeah I get that and that’s a fair opinion… but I just love the force awakens… i thought it was a really nice set up even if it was the same beats as a new hope, and talking about creativity, the last Jedi is probably the most creative Star Wars film imo… I just wish TROS wouldn’t have backtracked and instead just have continued the story naturally. I like ROS, but I hate almost all the dialogue. It just sounds like it was written by someone who has never had a human reaction before. Makes me cringe every single time. The final saber fight, tho good, goes on for too long aswell. It should have stopped before lave surfing. One ridiculous set piece to the other haha… but there are definite great moments in it which I think can be said for every single Star Wars property.
I worked on the prequels making lightsaber props. Spent time with Ewan and Hayden on set, so was very pleased to see them together again. They're lovely people. There were things I loved. But there were things I didnt like about this series. Most notably the film making process of it all, directing choices, cinematography, production design and parts of the writing.
I have to agree as well, one of my biggest gripes with this series was how cheap it felt. For a project this big I was hoping a lot of set pieces would be more grandiose in scale akin to a big budget movie. I don't know what Disney's deal is with the setting always being a boring endless desert planet.
Yeah this series' direction, choreography, CGI (in some places) and music among many other things was so surprisingly...amateurish and *cheap* feeling. The worst offender was definitely the writing for the most part. Also, would it have killed them to give us a LIVE ACTION Clone Wars flashback with Obi-Wan, Anakin, Asoka, and Captain Rex?
When Vader says “I am not your failure obiwan”…that was definitely anakin. Deep down, there is still love with these characters and that’s why they can’t finish each other off. People got so mad when Vader let Kenobi go in episode 3 of the show, but to me, it made perfect sense. Vader can’t stand what Kenobi did to him, but he will always be his master and he will always have respect for him. And when Kenobi is around, that light side comes out so much that even Vader can’t resist.
....obi wan not killing vader is one of the dumbest piece of writing anyone has ever written ....why would obi wan let vader live for a 2nd time after seeing what vader is capable of sheer stupidity ...vader kills millions of people later in the timeline just because obi wam lets him live for no fecking reason
@@digontozahid if obi wan killed darth Vader he wouldn’t of restored balance to the force and the emperor would have killed loads more so it does make sense, Anakin was still the chosen one, if you didn’t get that from the first 6 movies then you might need a rewatch
The show made me realize that, although I don't like much about the prequels, I really like the characters. It was amazing to see Ewan and Hayden back in these roles. Also, the kid who plays Leia was brilliant for such a young actress. Loved that!
I found it absolutely fascinating to read the book version of revenge of the sith, and realise that with just a little bit of tweaking (basically adding context and thoughts), it was a great story with thoroughly compelling characters.
@@miridium121 yup, i rewatched ROTS like two weeks ago and thoght the same thing. just that someone directed lucas a bit and advised him and it could have been amazing.
Ummmm. Please can ANY other fan agree with me that she is BY FAR the worst actress on the show. They kill off the one, The friggin 1 and ONLY decent female actress to focus on a 6 year old Leaia who's going for a genius, philosopher 10 year old who can quote Dostoevsky (I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S MORE ON THE SCRIPT THAN HER)?? In what universe was she acting well??? What was a standout moment in ANY episode? I'm curious
@@samueloneal3717 Jake Llyod bruh, miles ahead of him... I think you mistaking of 'bad kid actors' to just 'not liking kids acting'. Mccullay Culkin wasnt a thesbian as a kid, but was serviceable. Not every kid actor is a haley joel osment
The homeless Clone in the second episode nearly broke me. That little pause where we’re not sure if he maybe recognized General Kenobi, and Obi-Wan looking at him wondering if maybe they had served together. Such a perfect moment of Obi-Wan confronting his past.
@@properduction2586 it’s fine to not enjoy all of this stuff, but just accept that some people will enjoy and find meaning in things you consider low quality
My single favorite shot/moment in Star Wars is now the high angle shot of Vader kneeling on the ground and screaming, "Obi-WAAAAAAAN!" with the suit's voice modulator maxing out, mixing with Hayden's voice. It's so powerful and sums up this character perfectly. Yes, he's scary, badass, and ridiculously powerful...but he's ultimately broken and always will be. It's heartbreaking, terrifying, and tragic all at the same time.
The delivery of that by Hayden elevated what could have been cheesy. You hear so many emotions in that yell. It’s part anger, part pleading, and part frustration. In that final moment you really feel the torture Anakin/Vader is going through. It’s hard to tell if he wants to kill Obi-Wan, or if he wants to be put out of his misery.
I agree, the show handled Vader really, well although I still felt like he was kind of weak and less intimidating in the finale vs Obi Wan, and the way Obi Wan wins by overpowering him with a bunch of rocks feels very un obi wan-like.
@@HOTD108_ It may not have always been him in the suit but that finale was just wow. Anytime we saw Hayden in the show, it was always a fantastic scene and he always gave it his all.
I loved The Mandalorian, so i'm not a disney-starwars hater. But this show was a shock to me. The writing felt like it was done by children. SPOILER ALERT - The escape of Leia in Obi-Wan's coat - The Leia chase scene in the forest - The super dumb storm troopers looking for a jedi and a girl on a transporter - Obi-Wan not being able to walk around a barrier - The insane plot convenience, like Bale Organa telling EVERY secret in a holo-message These and like dozens more made it inacceptable for me, and, to be honest, the fact that Chris accepted those writing mistakes just like that makes me very worried about Shelby Oaks :(
Dude. Star Wars is full of stupid stuff. It’s a story about space wizards. That’s what makes it fun. It shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Star Wars fans should realize this. It’s should never be taken too seriously and just have fun with the story.
@@matthewstrey5606 Just because there is "magic" stuff doesn't mean we can just throw abord all logic. There's a difference between inner logic and outer logic. The inner logic has to work within the rules of Star Wars. You can't just do one thing in one Star Wars movie and then completely contradict that in the next. That's annoying and poor storytelling. It's possible to do that well, Mandalorian shows that. And having fun doesn't mean telling absolutely absurd things that destroy the established Star Wars lore.
@@huawafabe Disney is now in charge of creating such lore. They can create their logic. Star Wars has been full of contradictions from the beginning. Disney tried taking a risk with the TLJ and it went terribly with some of the fan base. So now they think they have to play it safe. Because safe is the only thing that can please most of the fan base. Telling a good story In Star Wars means having contractions and absurd plot points. That’s the only way you can tell a good story in a universe like this
@@matthewstrey5606 I totally disagree, with the perfect example being called "The Mandalorian" (but also Rogue One for instance). So it just depends on who is writing and directing, and IT IS possible. Disney should have learned from the sequel trilogy hate and just get some good writers that are worth the millions they cost. Obi-Wan felt like it was written by children, which completely ruined it for me. There was barely any drama, everything was just ridiculously resolved by plot convenience and horrible character decisions. Star Wars can be dark, you saw that in Episode V and VI, it can be fun too, which you saw in Episode I that I like nowadays (I already lowered my standards in hindsight). I have high hopes about 'Andor', the series coming in August, it was done by the Rogue One creators, which was exactly the Star Wars we need, and the trailer looks good.
lol why on earth would you be excited about “Shelby Oaks.” Chris has a place on UA-cam. I understand the following. But what has ever suggested to you that he’s a deep thinker capable of making a great movie? It’s delusional
Agreed! The last episode was everything that I'd hoped the show would be. Was a long wait to get there but I guess it was worth it, especially with the mentor relationship with Obi Wan and Leia
So refreshing to hear a review that just explains honest feelings without worrying about backlash. I too liked this and the show made me happy. That's more than enough
This is why I subscribed to Chris in the first place. He just likes what he likes and is honest about it. Whether you agree or disagree, he doesn't care. When people say they hate Signs, he'll say he loves it. That's the kind of honesty I appreciate.
“I like this thing” =/= “This thing is good”. The ability to enjoy something while acknowledging it’s flaws (and vice versa) is an important skill to have.
Not quite. You can’t acknowledge flaws if you don’t agree with said flaws to begin with. Or if you don’t see the flaw at all. There are plenty of “criticisms” of shows that are ignorant and/or uninformed. And before someone puts words in my mouth, I have not said a single word of my opinion on Obi Wan.
@@nemesis8508 Nope. He’s right. It’s a growing problem and it’s getting annoying. Watching people “not agree” with gaping plot holes because the show did the key jangle and gave good feelings is embarrassing to behold.
@@claudegrenier3180 And that is exactly how writing gets dumber: People too agreeable to say anything while the normies bark like seals when they hear the keys jangle.
A lot of the writing in this show was absolutely dreadful but seeing Hayden and Ewan together again brought a smile to my face, wish we could have saw more of them. You could tell the actors loved it too which always makes scenes better.
Writing ain't dreadful at all. It's way better written than the Sequel Trilogy. This show connects with both Original and Prequel trilogies, and it connects them really well.
@@BlazerK1914 That's not a high bar, being better than the Sequels(which is massively debatable at best) doesn't make it good. It doesn't connect them well at all lol it's incredibly ham-fisted and added nothing to the universe at all. Why was Vader so desperate to catch Obi-Wan but then after this series for the next 10 years or so doesn't even try to?
@@mrcheesemunch It does connect them well. Wondering why Vader abandoned his search for Obi Wan? Because the Emperor wants to ensure Darth Vader’s loyalty to him. This show is so good, and it’s one of the best I’ve ever watched.
Those who obsess of the minutiae of Star Wars instead of just enjoying it as popcorn entertainment need to move out of their parents’ basements and get a life.
@@Beaut_Beau If you are a fan of the franchise, sure. I watch James Bind marathons at least once a year, and I only really love a hand full of those films.
Chris -- I deeply appreciate the "you can love what's not perfect" take. Thank you for that. I'll say the final episode of this show was EVERYTHING this old Star Wars fan wanted to see. (could use a touch less shaky cam in the fights, but that's it)
I also enjoyed the final fight, but I did feel like the fight was too easy for Obi Wan, and the way he beats Vader by overpowering him and throwing a bunch of rocks at him feels very un obi wan-like.
Flawed show? Yes, lots of flaws But if you can't recognize some of the greatest moments in Star Wars happening right in front of you, then how can you consider yourself a fan?
@@properduction2586 Literally ever show/movie you like can have "mind bending" plotholes if you're obsessed with finding and then bitching about them. Seriously, you're watching a show with Obi-wan holding back tears seeing anakin through the Darth Vader helmet - and if you can't connect with that because of how a chase scene looked in episode 1 then your priorities are shite
@@mops515 1) Did you just do the “ This thing is bad but there are also other bad things “ type argument ? So ? The show has garbage writing..Do you have any valid points or you just trying to bullshit me here ? 2)How is your feelings a higher priority over good writing ? You have dogshit standards..
I feel the exact same way about the prequels. For about 5-10 years online it was MASSIVELY popular to hate on them. It generated clicks. But now that I’m older, now that we’ve gotten the prequel trilogy. I can say I enjoy the prequels more than I ever did as a kid. Let us all just enjoy this wonderful franchise together.
The respect you give in your reviews is refreshing. Even the movies you don't like you still give respect to the movie and the work they put in to making it. Its nice to see a critic who doesn't just slam a movie for clicks and views. You bring integrity to the movie critic stage and its nice to see.
Have you seen the Clone Wars? Is pretty good. I was already a prequel fan, being the Star Wars films that I grew up with, but Clone Wars cemented my love even further.
You’re entitled to your beliefs, but I can objectively and constructively criticize what Disney did to this show. It had 2 maybe 3 good episodes. It was overall a letdown because they made Obi Wan a side character in his own show. I don’t trust your opinion on Star Wars content anymore, ever since you acted like The Last Jedi was such a great film. To each their own.
I honestly thought that Obi-Wan was able to see Qui-Gon as a ghost because now Obi-Wan's mind was finally at ease from carrying the weight of killing his apprentice. Vader lifted that guilt and burden from Obi-Wan by declaring he killed Anakin. With a clear head, he can now see his former Master's ghost
RIGHT ON THE MONEY when you said “I’m part of the generation that thought they would never get to see this stuff” I’m remember for years just playing scenarios in my head of them bringing Hayden back, just wishing they would. And they fucking did it man! It may not have been perfect, but getting to see Hayden and Ewan together was worth it for the Nostalgia alone. I’m happy after all the bullshit Disney did with the Sequel Trilogy.
And we're seeing WHY we didn't get to see this sort of stuff.... Because film makers and show writers ruin what we once loved. This didn't enhance the prequels films as much as it made A New Hope completely worthless. We never got this in the past because Hollywood used to actually take their creative integrity seriously, now it's literally nostalgia bait with no good writing or ideas at the helm and I guarantee not a single person can tell me that's not what Kenobi represents. Bad writing that manipulates our nostalgic brains into enjoying it, the fact people like this simply because they rehashed everything from revenge of the Sith is actually quite pathetic and shows how low the bar has become for Star Wars.
The way I personally see the Obi-Wan Kenobi show is that it could've been much better than it already is. There is parts of it that I personally didn't enjoy that much but when it hits, it hits hard. And I feel like, even if just for the shows greatest moments, it's super worth to watch it. I was in tears during the last episode.
The biggest praise I can give this show is Ewan McGregor’s performance throughout the whole thing, he honestly carried the whole show, especially in my favorite moment when he beats Darth Vader and the conversation between them, that shit hit me to my core.
McGregor is so good in this role. Considering how daunting it must have been for him when he signed up for the prequels, he showed a lot of confidence and was probably the best thing about those films.
I needed this video. Thanks for making it. I've been a fan of Kenobi, as well as the Sequel trilogy, and I've felt ostracized by this community for my enjoyment. Knowing there are others willing to say similar things brings me, for lack of a better word, solace.
There are plenty of us who don’t just hate everything Star Wars just because it’s popular to do so, sadly our voices seem to be drowned out by the cesspool of negative people out there.
@@bjmanzey most people don’t hate this show because its a ‘popular’ thing to do. They hate it because of the shitty and uncreative writing and it fucks with Star Wars on a whole. They hate it because they love the canon so much
@@grunntalll well keep telling yourself that because as someone who owns EVERY SINGLE BOOK FROM CANON AND LEGENDS this show doesn’t mess up canon AT ALL and as a whole helps it. It gives a reason why Vader says Obi wan once thought as you did, it explains why Leia names her son Ben, it explains why she doesn’t acknowledge this adventure they had by Obi wan telling her no one must ever know that they know each other and it explains how Obi wan comes to terms with his failures to go from the prequel Obi wan to the original Obi wan. And if you don’t like certain aspects of it, that’s fine but don’t go crying about canon when this show does more for canon than most anything else does.
While I personally don't really like the sequels, I'm not in such a sorry state that I'd make fun of people for liking them at this point in my life. I'm sorry there are still people like that out there, and keep enjoying what you enjoy!
I truly appreciate and admire your positivity and passion, Chris. This show gave me exactly what I wanted, and more. I absolutely loved it, and it's easily one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars media.
I really don’t get why people complained about Hayden not being de-aged enough, he looked great to me. I like Darth Vader, but I’d love to see more of Anakin. Give him a spin off series!
Because they didn't even try to make him look younger when they made obi wan look younger. I'd at least appreciate the effort, and this show didn't care at all about about good production quality
@@Revan-eb1wb obi wan looked younger than anakin, they can't make people look younger with makeup? Nicole kidman looked really young in the northman in the first act and then later looked exactly her age. I dont think the creators of this show put this much effort into it there are many technical issues going on
I'll say something right off the bat: I think Lucas actually helped to very simply, and quickly, explain Kenobi's lie to Luke about his father being "betrayed and murdered" by Vader. When he and Yoda learn of Anakin's involvement in the slaughter of the Jedi at the temple, he pleads with Yoda to let him fight Palpatine because he wouldn't be able to fight or kill Anakin. Yoda is the one to tell him that Anakin is dead, betrayed and murdered by Vader. After watching the duel between Kenobi and Vader, it wasn't a huge leap for me to come to the conclusion that Kenobi hammered that particular "point of view" into his mind during his long exile. Now with that said, I think Vader's statement to Kenobi in the finale of "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was great. I could have accepted my previous interpretation, but Obi-Wan using Vader's own words was very poetic, imo.
That scene was literally there to let Obi Wan know Anakin is truly dead and it is just Darth Vader standing in front of him now. And yet Obi Wan walks away for Vader to continue taking over the galaxy. Sure. Great protectors the Jedi were. Don't know why they wanted his help 10 years later.
totally agree, Chris. Never thought I'd see some of things we're getting. And Ewan and Hayden wanting to come back and tell more stories really is a gift.
Yeah, even when it comes to the stuff I didn't much care for overall, such as the Boba Fett series, I still got to see cool shit like Boba riding around on the back of a rancor monster... if you'd told my younger self he'd one day see that it would've blown his mind.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 My favorite scene of Book of Boba Fett is Danny Trejo wheeling in to present the rancor while his hair is blowing in the breeze. 😊
@@Lord_Alimdor lol not even close, nothing about the show is “tRaSh sHoW lOL” at all and the only thing that IS trash is your comment here entirely so. Nothing about this “leia hiding under coat” didn’t “rUinED” anything at all. lol what? That DIDN’T happen at all, My goodness you are so wrong here with everything you’ve said.
@@darkmagicianfan3423 lol not even close, this show is NOT “oBjEVtiVely Bad” at all, lol you people are so shallow that you use the word “objectively” as much as you can to make your nonsensical opinions a fact. You’re wrong and you’ve been wrong by coming over here. Just stop as the show is overall a very GOOD show as a whole due to its positives!
I personally don't feel the same way as Chris, I thought that the Obi Wan series was a highlight of Disney's mishandling of the Star Wars franchise; I thought the character of Reva was written really poorly; I thought the decisions they made Vader and Kenobi do were poor and not thought out, etc etc. That being said, I love the optimism and enthusiasm he gives the show because it reminds me why I even watched the show in the first place, so thanks Chris for reminding me to not be so critical and just be happy that we're even getting to see Kenobi throw down with Anakin once again
Even though I was disappointed by the show and personally didn’t like it, I really found your review to be both helpful and a breath of fresh air. It’s totally cool to like or dislike something and we should normalize not having to constantly defend our positions because at the end of the day we’re all just fans! I’m really happy many people enjoyed this series because Ewan and Hayden and Moses deserve to be supported, and your comment on how you may have contributed to the outlook of fanbases struck a chord with me on a residual level. Never thought about things like that but this was a great review, and I’m so glad you chose to review it. Great video Chris
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Some people decided to hate Reva character long before the show started. Because of that, she could do no right by them. Also, people will always see what they want to see.
Well spoken. I mostly enjoyed the show but the fans are so annoying. Half seem like they expected perfection and are outraged they didn't get it while the other half are pretending it's the greatest thing to ever exist. Remember when level-headed discussions were a thing? People forget that you can enjoy something while acknowledging it's flaws and vice-versa. Anyway, thanks for being rational lol
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Some of us feel she didn't do justice to the Reva character. O'Shea did a good job as Roken, you could see a great leader in the making in his performance.
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 She comes of as someone who was cast to check boxes…I mean her acting is shit…Her constant pandering to “ there’s so much diversity “ …Do you see where I’m going with this ?
Thank you. I feel the exact same way about this show, and star wars in general lately. I hate having to defend my position as someone who enjoys the majority of the Disney-Era. It's so refreshing to hear someone else just GET it. I really appreciate the positivity you're trying to cultivate on your channel, and I can't wait to see your movie.
“Imma ignore the fact that this show was 90% plot holes, writing issues, poor editing, dreadful cinematography, and completely bland music and just focus on the 10% nostalgia bait”
Always loved the prequels as I grew up with them. Didn't even know they weren't well recieved originally. The flashbacks along with Vader/Anakin scene made the show worth the watch
The show helped explain why Obi-Wan was so cold to Vader in a New Hope too. He witnessed some of the atrocities Vader had done up close and personal. And that last duel, Vader made it clear that Anakin is no more and he considered himself a whole nother entity now.
@@bongwaterbojack Probably same reason why he did in episode 3. Just leave him to suffer and die on his own. Kenobi isn't an executioner and isn't gonna off an already beaten man. Even Anakin knew that was against the Jedi way.
@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 That's the sort of thing that sounds neat when you don't think about it. But it also makes Kenobi complicit in every murder Vader commits after. Who knows? With Vader out of the picture, the Empire might've fallen sooner. Alderaan might've never been destroyed. None will ever know just how many people died in service of Obi-Wan's morals. All we know is that they died. Writers wrote themselves into a corner and solved it by making Obi-Wan a villain. Nice.
Despite all the flaws with the show I honestly enjoyed it. Seeing Ewan and Hayden as Obiwan and Anakin was awesome to see. I've always had a soft spot for the prequels and seeing a show that pays tribute to that trilogy was great.
I just watched the entire series in a matter of three days. After hearing such negative reviews of it, a friend of mine said it was amazing. I was reluctant but he invited me over and we watched the first four episodes back to back. I was blown away by how good the series was in the first four episodes. It was grounded in what typical humans would do like Obi Wan being depressed and like a vagabond, just drifting through life because he has this tremendous burden on his shoulders, in his eyes, failing the Jedi and failing Anakin only to be shocked that he is alive! Talk about trauma! I liked that he was rusty in his Jedi abilities and lightsaber skills when he was facing Darth Vader the first time. This just seemed so logical and grounded in reality imo. I enjoy Obi's character arc in this show, very touching! The final two episodes were simply amazing, especially the final fight between Vader and Obi! I was literally crying like a baby by just the interaction between them, not only the physical fight but the dialogue and mental obstacles being overcome by Obi. Was simply amazing and enjoyed every minute of it. I am a big critic of Disney and don't really like them as a company and the direction they are going but this show is an exception to the rule. I do not understand the criticism of this show specifically, others certainly but this show just showed a star wars story and nothing woke or politically imo. Hope Mando season 3 is good!
Agreed, Chris. Especially that scene in the finale where Vader and Obi Wan were fighting; the duality of when Vaders mask was off and he yelled “Obi Wan!” in Anakin + Vaders voice. Chills.
I'm a creative in Hollywood, and I've been watching Chris for years so it's important for this to be said... Since Chris took the leap into the directing pool his reviews have changed dramatically. He no longer grades movies and he will not say a single bad word about a Disney property (check the videos). This is so ridiculous. It's so obviously he's trying to play the Hollywood game because he's either afraid of Disney or wants to worm his way into directing Disney IP at some point. It clear as day... In fact, for a writer director to not point out problems with Obi-Wan and to say "I loved it" means he is either a terrible writer, terrible critic, or lying... You can love Obi Won, but there are incredibly poor elements to the show that an honest critic should point out. I personally don't have a problem with this because I am in Hollywood and clearly see what he is doing (every person in Dishonest-wood does this dance publicly), but don't turn on your camera and record videos where you're trying to fool your subscribers with your vanilla reviews. Just shut down your challenge and go direct movies. Or say "I am doing the Hollywood dance because I want to slobber my way into directing Hollywood films...". You built a fanbase by being a critic... but you're so clearly not doing that anymore. It's dishonest.
@@anonx111 Wrong. He's lying right to your face and then using his channel to raise money for his movie. If he wants to give honest reviews and raise money, all good. But he's taking your money and then trying to "play nice" with Hollywood so that he can get directing gigs. 100%. The problem is that I have watched nearly all of his video for a decade and the change is glaring. You want easy proof... Where is his "Worst Movies of 2021"?? Chris is no longer an honest movie critic which he was for nearly a decade. He's being dishonest and also asking you to finance his film... Ask yourself why a channel with 2 million subs doesn't generate enough money to finance an Indie Horror Film?? This is where the line should be drawn. He is using his fans for money, but then not being a honest critic.
I liked it in many ways, and moments in the finale were so, so good - I'm just sad thinking what a better writing team and production design team might have done. Lot of missed opportunities. Lot of bungled opportunities. But had some great stuff in the mix.
Right now this series is a bit of a mess. They could come back later and fix some of the FX shots, maybe fill in some of the plot holes around Reva, tweak some things in the story line. But right now it needs work.
@@mainsource8030 Just because you don't agree with him here, doesn't change anything about how good he his at this job. Chris is still the same critic he's always been. Now Star Wars has always been very personal to a lot of people. Appropriately, not everybody views it the same way. For me the Grand Inquisitor in Obi Wan was majorly disappointing, but most people haven't seen Star Wars Rebels, so they don't really have that comparison.
I hate Reva. They made every possible mistake when it comes to building a good villain or even a good character. But I watched for Ewan and Hayden. They are amazing.
9:42-10:25 - Chris talking about recognizing how negative media discourse on YT becoming too much of the norm is so refreshing and is yet another great example of why he’s always been my favorite on here. He has contributed to it in the past, but he made an effort to not add to that anymore and I love him for that.
If he isn't able to actively criticise anything anymore... then what exactly is the purpose of these reviews? I don't see any 'negative' reviews on YT re. Top Gun Maverick for example. Probably because it's a great production created with passion. Disney should look into that one of these days.
I've watched Chris for 8 years or so. It's sad to see him play it so safe ever since he started to get into the business. I do not blame him at all though, who wouldn't do the same? He might end up working with these people. It's not negative to criticize a lazy cash grab, which is the Disney special now. Oh well.
@@Revan-eb1wb still, at least for me it gets tiring to hate something, yes the show has its flaws but it also has really good moments, just like the prequels. It's important to have standards but the hate the show is getting is monumentally overblown. Have standards, but also be polite please
@@minesbanduk Reviews are supposed to reflect the reviewer's thoughts on the content in question, which means they vary from person to person. Just cause you don't agree with what he says doesn't mean it's bad or he can't actively criticize anything anymore, it just means you have a different opinion
I liked the prequels. I was a kid when they came out too. They told the story I was expecting. Anakin becoming a Jedi, husband and father then falling to the dark side. It didn't mess with the continuity.
Except for a few bigger details still. I think there is a reason that if the other shows didn’t happen, we’re still gonna be saying Revenge of the Sith is probably the only movie that really needed to happen in terms of a prequel.
How can anyone even pretend to consider themselves a valid critic of the medium when they're actively terrified of criticising films/tv shows now? We criticise products as a means of maintaining high standards and that becomes ever more paramount when you have such a large following who rely on your opinions. It's not inherently negative so long as its constructive and rational, and the fact is, the vast majority of the complaints made against this show are constructive and rational, and especially with regards to glaring plotholes, contrivances and things that just muddy the waters of Star Wars continuity. There's a reason why this show has a mediocre 75% critic rating, and even worse 65% user rating on RT; it's because it's a mediocre, lazily written show, elevated only in so much as its cheap fan service and rememberberries. It's a shame as once upon a time, Chris would be able to point these things out as any good critic should and I've relied on those rational reviews to influence what I've watched in the past. Simply liking something and explaining why is one thing, but just saying 'I don't criticise anything anymore because its too negative' is pretty damn pathetic to be honest. Just leaves me thinking what the actual point of this channel is now. Ah well, I'll see myself out.
I’ve been reluctant to unsubscribe since I did really like his past reviews. When he announced his reasoning for no longer recording film critiques, I thought “Sure, I guess I understand” and was interested in seeing indie film shout-outs and videos about the filmmaking process. But these “reviews” he keeps pushing come across as inauthentic or moronic. His overinflated praise for these bland Disney shows & movies are reallyyyy making me doubt his skills as a critic and he’s playing up the annoying defense that recent Star Wars and Marvel fans parrot: that people should be thankful for any “content”, that people should move on and not say anything negative if they don’t like it, to just enjoy it for the action and one-liners and cameos, bla bla bla. Feels like he’s kissing up to these directors and showrunners with the hope of working with them in the future…
@@Eirex Yep, totally agree. I hate to use the word, but it's very shill-like behaviour which unfortunately is something I've seen before from UA-camrs who start to get closer to the industry they're commenting on. This idea that it's just 'contributing to negativity' doesn't even make sense because critique can be purely rational and explained. There are plenty of channels out there that do nothing but heap praise on everything they consume, particularly surrounding Star Wars. But this guy is supposed to be a critic, and built his entire livelihood on this platform based on that. As soon as he gets a break in terms of making films, all integrity goes out of the window.
Chris I'm gonna give you one more chance before I unsub to prove that you can be noble AND criticize movies. You're not being harsh for doing your job mate, I find it funny when ppl bash a little
This show meant alot to me revenge of sith was the first star wars film I ever saw I was 7 and it was so nostalgic and awesome to see my child hood heroes again and really gave me chills to see hayden under the mask it really made the 2 characters of anakin and vader come together And the feels of when obiwan talked to leia about padme My only complaint was I wish uncle owen and aunt beru were in it more 😂
You are spot on about anger being monetizable. There are "review" channels out there that are made up of almost entirely negative videos bashing on whatever the current mainstream show or movie is. Positive reviews rarely exist on these channels and if they do, they're from a time before they realised all the money was in pandering to the outrage crowd. Now their comments sections are full of people that use words like "wahmen".
Yep. I agree 100%. Those pathetic channels were already shitting the show BEFORE it even came out based on rumoured leaks of what was going to happen with certain characters. They were making videos about disney ruining Obi-Wan weeks in advance. People were ready to hate on it before they had even watched the first episode. It's honestly pathetic. The show has many problems IMO but too many people really wanted to dislike it before going in because "lol disney star wars bad".
I agree theres alot of money to be made and the drinker keeps spamming the same videos. But even though theyre getting old hes speaking straight facts.
It makes me wonder how someone could be satisfied with their life when everything they post is hateful. What makes it worse is that those channels are basically in an echo chamber, with a bunch of “yes men” in the comments only adding to the hate and rage.
Like Doomcock. I used to follow his channel until the hate just got out of control. Episode 6 was objectively a good episode. Disney has a lot of crap but they'll hit the nail on the head from time to time and the Obi vs Vader fight was one of those times.
Chris’s review of The Rise of Skywalker will always be something that I will remember. In it, he talked about how Star Wars is always embraced by different generations. I grew up with the prequels and I love them to this day. Many kids will grow up with the Sequel Trilogy and Obi-Wan Kenobi and also love those too.
The only thing I was worried about was Hayden’s acting, and all my worries went away when he appeared in the flashback. I felt that he has honed his craft and the direction truly helped him out.
@@bencarlson4300 YES! I am happy with what we got though. Especially in the last episode. His scene with Obi-Wan was well crafted and shows his full transformation to Vader
What I most enjoyed was the season, gave more of a reason why Leia would reach out to Obi-Wan for help. Before this series she was reaching out to an old man her father knew and trusted. Now it is she is reaching out to a man she has a connection to and deeply trusts. It gives more weight to the adult Leia and Ben relationship even though their actors never had a scene together in the original films.
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob I was just about to say that. Yeah it’s very strange to me, after seeing this series, that Leia just runs into the falcon and doesn’t have any reaction to seeing Obi-Wan dueling Vader in A New Hope. Even after Obi-Wan is struck down and Luke is mourning on the falcon, Leia is beside him consoling him as if it was only Luke who truly lost someone he cared about. Maybe it was because she had only spent a brief amount of time with him and never saw him again till the events of A New Hope. Or maybe it was because she was still so devastated by the destruction of Alderaan that she didn’t have the emotional bandwidth to process the loss of Obi-Wan. I don’t know, either way it’s pretty annoying when you have to jump through so many hoops just to keep the continuity intact in your head. That being said though, this was just a small detail that really bugged me. I still absolutely loved the Obi-Wan series. The season had a pretty rough start, but totally stuck the landing in my book. The last episode made the entire thing worth it.
@@silentgnome in the fourth episode when Reva is interrogating Leia, Reva says to Leia, “Obi-Wan is dead, no one is coming for you.” So Leia is aware that he also goes by the name Obi-Wan.
There were the omnipresent plot holes that almost define Star Wars but that made me like it even more. I had a big smile on my face at the end of the finale and after all, isn't that what it's all about?
I've been a lifelong fan since 1977. I am done, SO done, with defending my love of all things Star Wars to other "fans." I thought Kenobi was a good show. Not great, not perfect. But good, fun, entertaining and ultimately satisfying. If you hated it, I don't care. I'm not interested in trying to convince you otherwise.
Thank you 😭😭😭 Any lifelong fan since the 70s who doesn't make it their job to inform newer fans everything they despise about anything Star Wars post original trilogy.... is a godsend. The purists make it difficult to love Star Wars these days. I'm happy you enjoyed the show! I did as well ♥️
@@erinlaboricua Same here i love all the major star wars films. i love the OTs the presquals and the squals (please don't hate on me) even if I there was one or two story elements I didn't agree with I love the character designs the music and the fights. i almost never hate on a film just because. I always try to see the good and the bad and the grey. i hate when people hate on a film because it wasn't like the originals. as an example in the x-men films one the most hated was "the last stand". Its not perfect but the music and the fights/stunts were amazing. but because the original and X2 was so beloved it got a lot of unessary hate. I love that film. Its so unfair to love or like a film or a tv show and be hated on by other people because you don't have the same opinion. THAT's bulling and totally unfair you guys. 😭😭🙂👍❤💔❣
Chris seems for a while now you go out of your way not to upset the woke weirdos in Hollywood even joining them, trying to be a film maker you cant be upsetting these weirdos that's understandable, you should concentrate on that movie and forget about reviews,your opinion cant be taken seriously anymore, I've watched the change in this channel and in you and its substantial
I love that you're a supporter Chris and it's great you're speaking your mind without thought to what people are hoping to hear. The main issues i have with the D+ SW content is i) lack of creative ambition (e.g. always pulling up from emotional gut punches and exploring moral ambiguity); ii) the Disney template is becoming more pronounced e.g. highly competent children and the force feeling a bit like wishing upon a star; and iii) an over reliance on Volume. They really need to get out of the studio more often. Keep up the great work.
@@al112v4 Why didnt Qui Jon force heal himself after Maul stabbed him? Star Wars was never this over the top. Disney is pretty much rewriting Lucas's story at this point.
Totally enjoyed Ewan and Hayden in this series. From their interactions to their characters alone. Like you could tell Ewan and Hayden missed playing these characters and had fun doing it again after so long and it really showed. Did the series have a lot of questionable moments, details, and flaws? Definitely. But I still enjoyed it and wasn't left disappointed. I just wish there were more episodes and I mean that in a good way.
Great point about "critical eye" and basing your appreciation of a Disney Star Wars feature on what your decisions would be if you were to be in charge. Ewan was great. Obi-Wan provided us a chance to see him expand on the character. Regardless of inconsistencies, we have another Star Wars show to appreciate for years to come and hopefully it will get its due praise. If he enjoyed doing it once, I'd love to see him reprise the role in another series.
Chris Stuckmann you don't see any faults with this series? The transition from film reviewer to film creator is now complete I guess. What the new obi-wan series added to the star wars legacy. 1) Hunting sequences where 10-year-olds outrun adult bounty hunters, sith, and jedi. 2) 10-year-olds being wiser and smarter than adults. 3) Having lightsabers thrust through the chest is 100% not deadly. 4) Teleporting Villains, on par with Jason from Friday the 13 movies, and video games. 5) Powers fluctuate from Useless to superpowerful based on the needs of the plot, instead of being the constant that shapes the plot. 6) Obi-Wan is responsible for all the deaths in the original movies.
You are definitely right about this sphere of UA-cam becoming more and more focused on whining and nitpicking everything, and never being satisfied with anything. It is nice to see that there are some UA-camrs who choose to be more positive and constructive. Thank you, Chris. With that said, I have to admit I was disappointed by a major portion of the show. I was not able to get emotionally involved until the finale. There, they finally got me with probably the most emotional lightsaber duel in SW (minus, Luke vs Anakin, maybe). Looking back, I think I would have wanted the show to really focus entirely on Obi and Anakin. Tie the present with their past, and so on. Leia was fine, but I really expected this story to be about Obi-Wan. We did not get enough of that.
Nitpicking ? This show has terrible writing and apparently if someone calls out dogshit writing it’s “nitpicking” ? Yeah huge thanks to Chris Stuckmann shitty reviews of a shitty Star Wars content,now I have standards for writing that apparently you simpletons don’t have..these will people will Consume product and then wait for next product…
well said. I think they handled the emotional journey obi-wan goes through really really well. I just wished they could have integrated it much more into his internal struggles, instead of having him run around the galaxy again
No. There is plenty of stuff they like. Top Gun, The Northman, Everthing Everywhere all at Once, Spiderman No way Home, The Black Phone, Cobra Kai and Stranger things season 4. Just because they criticize a lot of content doesn't mean they hate everything.
@@william9170 I think his point still stands, and is even acknowledged by plenty of channels out there. Critiquing things makes more views than praising them. But most, if not all star wars critics would probably love to exchange their views for some well-crafted, well-written star wars content
@@william9170 I don't have a problem with constructive and fair criticism. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring to the rampant amount of UA-camrs who capitalize on attracting hate mobs by complaining about, and nitpicking the hell out of, every popular show or movie that is targeted by those groups. It is a good way to make easy money off of people, but it is slowly lowering the value of online reviews.
Obi Wan is my favourite character and I was really happy to see Ewan McGregor back. I feel that people have their expectations so high that reality can never really compete. Like you said, for me watching every episode brought me joy.
As if the writing of the show is decent to begin with…Please stop using the bullshit excuse “ Your expectations were too high that’s the only reason you didn’t like it “…
@@properduction2586 nothing is perfect. Writing can be poor and inaccurate. For example, no one was speaking to you, and yet, your written response here implies that that someone was. Have your opinion my friend. I'll have mine.
I was reluctant to comment initially because as Chris said in the video. We shouldn't be ridiculed for enjoying something but there we go. Not everyone will like everything and that's fine. I enjoyed it and that's good enough for me.
These comments are awful. Man decides to talk positively about a series he likes and the comments dunk on him for it. This is why I don't associate with the star wars fandom.
I’m really exasperated by a lot of the Star Wars fandoms whinging. Do you even care that much if you insist on making the whole experience so joyless. I know that these Prequel characters and their stories meant the absolute world to me in the darkest parts of my childhood and I’m just happy I get to see my old friends again. Criticism is fine but the bad faith is what gets me.
I feel if we keep accepting “okay” content from Disney, we will never get the Star Wars content that it is capable of being. I’m a bit surprised from Chris, I don’t expect him to hate the show, but there’s legitimate writing and screen choices that he critiques in many of his other reviews that he did not do in this one. It’s sad to me that any honest criticism is immediately categorized into a toxic fan base and Star Wars has definitely been put into that box.
Didn't Chris say that he would stop being negative, cause now he just appreciates everyone is trying their best. It's a different view from just being a star wars fan, being a moviemaker.
@@asif9t9 I do remember that, and I appreciate that side of him by all means, honestly if this was any other show, he probably wouldn’t have even reviewed it 🤷♂️
he actually said that he couldnt see anything wrong with the writing or any inconsistencies and unless he has amnesia , hes lying, such a shame, im unsubbing i think
I always found myself watching the newest episode at 1:00 AM, loving it, going to bed, then waking up to a world of nitpickers. Some people really just can't be happy. It does seem, however, that most can agree that the finale was incredible.
I know you likely won't see this but Chris,you've really healed a part of me that's been wounded seeing such negativity for this show. it's been a little heartbreaking seeing certain strong stances fuelled by derision - particularly around Leia and Reva - and you really put my exact thoughts into words; I _never_ thought we'd even _get_ this show. I was enthralled by the novelty of seeing Ewan and Hayden on the screen again in roles they were TERRIBLY criticised and ridiculed for two decades ago, and i feel having that appreciation for the context behind which this show was delivered was big for me. I was grateful to have it and I think they _did a good job._ Reva's arc is a poignant lesson delivered by a wonderful actor. Leia and Obi-Wan share a relationship that, by all accounts, Obi-Wan likely never thought he'd get again - the last person to make him laugh _before Leia_ that we see being _Anakin himself._ it touched upon so many beautiful threads and wove them back into ones that'd been hanging loose for 20+ years and I just. yeah. thank you for this video. I needed it and I wholeheartedly empathise :)
My issue is that they put more time and care into a series about a random mandalorian than they did with Obi-Wan. It’s fucking Obi-Wan! He’s arguably the most important character in the entire franchise. Growing up loving Star Wars, Obi-Wan has always been my favorite out of all characters, and I just feel like this was incredibly underwhelming. That being said, what were the best parts of this series? Obi-Wan and Vader interacting. Those two could sit down and have tea and I’m there for it on the edge of my seat. I love seeing more from the inquisitors too which we’ve never seen much of. But man, why did the budget seem so terrible for a Disney show? Why did I see obi wan’s lightsaber bounce off someone and not go through them? What was up with Tala slapping that storm trooper in the helmet? I’m torn. Some parts were so good and some parts were so bad
I agree with you it was so underwhelming and poorly written, I expected as much care as the madalorian, or at least close to that, but no, they didn't even give much respect to the Canon
I don’t think he’s saying that the show didn’t have issues, I think he’s saying that he was able to enjoy it regardless. I feel pretty much the same, I have problems with a lot of it but overall it was just a cool Star Wars thing that they gave us and I can’t really complain about that. And I also think that the arc they gave Obi-Wan was amazing. The show around it does have a lot of flaws though.
The biggest compliment I can give this series is while I’m someone that feels no enjoyment watching the SW Prequel trilogy, this series did give me enjoy and excitement which made me at least respect the existence of the Prequels much more than I did before I watched this series.
Chris makes a valid point about how "negativity" has seemingly been monetized by certain UA-camrs in more recent years, who have realized that a large number of people out there simply want to wallow in an echo chamber of cynicism and hate.
@@swastikarya941 yes Sony, the same company that made the two Venom movies, and Morbius, one of THE movies of all time, is solely responsible for the success of No Way Home.
There were many moments throughout the show I found super endearing. Kenobi's interactions with Leia were so on-point. The last two episodes really tied it all together for me.
You perfectly summed up my feelings toward this show. I went in wanting to be entertained and I was entertained. If it was “bad,” like a lot of people seem to want to force others to believe, I and they wouldn’t have come back every week to see what happened next. Did I have some minor issues with the show? Sure, but so what? The more I think about those issues the more they dissipate. I now have something that I can mull over when I’m daydreaming. If a show or movie or game can make me do that, it’s succeeded in having a positive effect on me.
There are literally people bashing Chris for liking the show in this comment section. The dude is right that he has to defend himself for loving something these toxic idiots don't. Star Wars fandom is just too much.
Although the last 2 episodes really saved the show for me, there’s just too many weird writing decisions and wonky choreography/ways things are executed in the earlier episodes for me to consider the series great. Like why wouldn’t Vader kill Reva instead of leaving her and why did Vader act like fire between him and Obi Wan stopped him from holding obi wan with the force like he literally just did 2 minutes ago 😂 I still enjoyed it though!
@@marcelaboudreau106 nah wrong episode. I’m talking about when Vader force picked up and threw obi-wan into fire but then when obi-wan was saved Vader just stood there and watched him escape. The entire time he could’ve just force pulled Obi-wan back to him like he literally just had done a minute ago
Pretty sure Vader let him go that 1st time. Probably felt he beat him too easily + still had a tiny bit of Anakin left in him regarding Obi Wan until the finale fight when he goes fully dark and gets those sith eyes
@@petiteetoile8376 okay that definitely feels like a stretch tho considering they didn’t hint at any of that and you have to jump through hoops to rationalize it. It more screams that the writers didn’t know how to get Obi-Wan out of the situation and decided to just ignore it. If Vader let him go it seems very out of character considering he had been hunting him down relentlessly beforehand.
Because its garbage poeple, good scenes in isolation mean nothing when the Narrative flaws are so appalling. Objectively its a mess and you shills know it!!
No matter your thoughts on the show itself, Hayden and Ewan really showed up for this show. Hope to see more of Hayden!
I feel like Hayden was barely in it
He'll probably be in the Ahsoka show too.
Maybe a Vader spin-off series?
I actually like this comment a lot. I didn't particularly like the series but the acting/chemistry between those two was really good
Hayden and Ewan did the best they could with this writing….. I was happy to see them again reprise their roles.
@@rj-sn7rq that says a lot without saying much.
I feel like they should have focused on Obi-Wan and Vader’s relationship with flashbacks and an introspective look on Obi-Wan’s thoughts and emotions on the events of Episode 3. The final two episodes showed how much potential that concept could have had.
Tbh an Obi Wan / Vader series should pretty much write itself… I really wanted an episode of Vader in his Fish Tank and what’s going through his head in those moments alone..
Yessss
I don’t get the people calling for flashbacks. The same people who have been saying it was too slow. We saw their relationship in the clone wars… there’s nothing left to say really. Flashbacks would have been cool but for fan service only
Well, the final two episodes are a third of the entire series so i think they did succeed at doing that lol, though some of the previous ones could’ve had it for sure. Especially episode 4 that was the weakest and also the shortest
All they needed to do was drop the shoehorned Reva storyline and just introduce her in her own show and it would have fixed most of the problems
"Anakin is gone. I'm what remains." Just hit me in the chest.
'You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did.' Chills.
"Anakin" Hit me the same
Same, he sounded sad and broken.
This is now an all time favorite Star Wars scene for me. All aspects of it were so well done!
That one part where Obiwan finally sees Anakin's exposed face for the first time, illuminated by the blue light from Obiwan's lightsaber, and he says "I am not your failure, Obiwan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did." made me think that maybe he was miraculously forgiving Obiwan in that moment. But once his face started to become illuminated red and he says "The same way I will destroy you." I was like well shit.
So she wanted to kill Vader for killing Jedis ,
By getting close to Vader by killing Jedis
What's the logic here ?
There is no logic in Disney Star Wars.
Stop micro analysing everything and just enjoy the show like you’ve got vader and obi wan having a lightsaber duel again how can you not get excited about that being a star wars fan.
there is none
@@joemckeown7064because some people aren't mindless consumers
@@joemckeown7064 Micro-analysing? It was a plain observation.
As a kid who grew up in the early 2000’s, any scene between Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen brought me so much joy. I like Darth Vader, but I’d love to see more of Hayden as Anakin. A limited series that brings back Natalie Portman as Padme and Hayden as Anakin, expanding upon their relationship whilst on a secret Clone Wars mission would be really cool.
💯💯💯
Also scenes where they have chemistry that is miles above the prequels. Yeah, we can still look back and appreciate what they did more as time not only goes on, but gives us shows like these which give better context to stuff that needed more time in the prequels and better handling and execution. However, that is also why we have to remember that there is a reason we still cannot view the prequels as this god-tier level of filmmaking that the things that didn’t make them work as films, since similar issues befall The Hobbit and Fantastic Beasts…more so with Fantastic Beasts.
They are too old, they would never especially after the backlash of Hayden in the flashback looking too old
Although de-aging tech is available, I think the Clone Wars series has delved on that.
There is a Vader comic that is set directly after episode 3. They should adapt that into a series. It would be something completely different from what we’ve seen.
The end fight with James Earl Jones’ and Hayden’s voices overlapping and switching… just fucking wow.
Well it wasn’t even an original concept, it was used directly from Star Wars Rebels which the EXACT thing happens with the voice and mask
Yeah, that was excellent
I felt it!
Wasn't James, and it was done better in rebels which they lifted the scene from.
You can count on one hand everything that was good about this show and that's one everyone says, yes it was cool but it doesn't save the show
Really loved how Vader’s voice phased in and out when his suit was damaged. Tied up the loose end of how Anakin went from sounding like Hayden to James. I know it was always implied but I appreciated the small detail.
That moment was perfect!
@@maddiejordan7418 absolutely PERFECT
Yeah that vocal touch was great, and actually very logical.
Rip off from rebels tbh
@@ryana.g.p.7760 I'm not saying it'd a rip off, yet it added to the overall lore. One side of his mask was torn open from Anakins master, the side torn open by his student. Yet the only one who was able to get his to willingly take off the mask was his son Luke who brought him back from the darkness
It's weird, but the Star Wars prequels are aging very well, and I think that the Kenobi series is accelerating that process. Take Hayden Christensen for example, his casting and subsequent portrayal of Anakin/Vader wasn't met with the most positive of receptions, but now he's beloved as those characters and has cemented his legacy in Star Wars lore. I don't know if I'll be able to say the same about Daisy Ridley and the "Skywalker" trilogy movies lol, but I'll keep on open mind.
I dont understand how anyone can Phantom menace and Attack of the clones are actually good movies.
Revenge of the sith on the other hand has always been a great movie imo.
Clone Wars already did this several years ago (which Disney canceled). Just saying.
They're not aging well at all, they are still as terrible as they day they where released, but the kids who saw them back when they came out are aging, and they liked them back in the day, because you know, kids. And there's nothing wrong with that, if you like something you like it, but the movies themselves are objectivly bad. Bad writing, bad acting(mostly due to the bad writing) everything looks sterile and clean and boring, the plot is absolutely moronic if you stop to think about it even for a few minutes.
I don't actually hate the prequels, but I was never a HUGE Star Wars fan to begin with, I liked the original Trilogy for sure, I think the first 2 are very good movies, while the third is a bit less great imo, but still a very enjoyable watch. When the prequels came out, I was excited to see them ofc, but they felt like a let down in basically every single way, but yeah, I don't hate them or anything, even though they are not good movies.
@@TheOdMan Actually, I WASN'T a child when they released (15-21), and I had enough sense to feel conflicted about them at the time. I'm not a "huge" Star Wars fan either (never saw Ep 8 or 9, no spinoffs), but I believe the prequels HAVE aged well. They have aspects I didn't fully appreciate when they first released. Is part of it still nostalgia for a different time and style? Perhaps! 🤔
@@Jonas-ej7id Ep 1 and 2 always lacked the more sophisticated qualities of the original trilogy (script, story, acting, etc), but they make up for it with atmosphere and spectacle. There's something to be said when I still want to re-watch a "bad" movie...
It definitely makes me appreciate Ewan McGregor … his back must be in pain from carrying the prequels and this show
Facts
and the show as well
Facts
man..Hayden even more great in this show as Vader-Anakin especially last scenes
Ewan and Hayden made it bearable, all the rest of it is luck luster hot shit, especially the Saturday morning Disney channel bile
When Chris is a prequel enjoyer.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Back then prequels were popular to hate. Now prequels are popular to love.
Honestly I think the sequels kinda made everyone appreciate the prequels more
@@biffmcspandex7748 which is strange because 2/3rds of the sequels are better than 2/3rds of the prequels.
@@joshhunt4146 The Force Awakens was alright on its own, but I don’t think it can compare to the pure creativity of the prequels. Revenge of the Sith in particular is a film I enjoy far more than any of the sequel trilogy. Of course, that’s just my opinion though.
@@domphilbrick yeah I get that and that’s a fair opinion… but I just love the force awakens… i thought it was a really nice set up even if it was the same beats as a new hope, and talking about creativity, the last Jedi is probably the most creative Star Wars film imo… I just wish TROS wouldn’t have backtracked and instead just have continued the story naturally. I like ROS, but I hate almost all the dialogue. It just sounds like it was written by someone who has never had a human reaction before. Makes me cringe every single time. The final saber fight, tho good, goes on for too long aswell. It should have stopped before lave surfing. One ridiculous set piece to the other haha… but there are definite great moments in it which I think can be said for every single Star Wars property.
I worked on the prequels making lightsaber props. Spent time with Ewan and Hayden on set, so was very pleased to see them together again. They're lovely people.
There were things I loved. But there were things I didnt like about this series. Most notably the film making process of it all, directing choices, cinematography, production design and parts of the writing.
I have to agree as well, one of my biggest gripes with this series was how cheap it felt. For a project this big I was hoping a lot of set pieces would be more grandiose in scale akin to a big budget movie. I don't know what Disney's deal is with the setting always being a boring endless desert planet.
Yeah this series' direction, choreography, CGI (in some places) and music among many other things was so surprisingly...amateurish and *cheap* feeling. The worst offender was definitely the writing for the most part.
Also, would it have killed them to give us a LIVE ACTION Clone Wars flashback with Obi-Wan, Anakin, Asoka, and Captain Rex?
@@DPham1 Yeah was definitely disappointed we didn't get clone wars flashbacks, but I have hopes that we might get something in the ahsoka series🙏.
Fully Agree
Its a tv show on purpose. They ain't got the money to make it look great
The prequels were good. My 2 favorite Star Wars movies are Empire and Revenge of the Sith.
When Anakins and Darths voice mixes over was really fantastic for me. I really enjoyed it.
When Vader says “I am not your failure obiwan”…that was definitely anakin. Deep down, there is still love with these characters and that’s why they can’t finish each other off. People got so mad when Vader let Kenobi go in episode 3 of the show, but to me, it made perfect sense. Vader can’t stand what Kenobi did to him, but he will always be his master and he will always have respect for him. And when Kenobi is around, that light side comes out so much that even Vader can’t resist.
yessir
....obi wan not killing vader is one of the dumbest piece of writing anyone has ever written ....why would obi wan let vader live for a 2nd time after seeing what vader is capable of sheer stupidity ...vader kills millions of people later in the timeline just because obi wam lets him live for no fecking reason
@@digontozahid EXACTLY.
@@digontozahid if obi wan killed darth Vader he wouldn’t of restored balance to the force and the emperor would have killed loads more so it does make sense, Anakin was still the chosen one, if you didn’t get that from the first 6 movies then you might need a rewatch
Yup. That's what I felt too. Deep down, they still remained brothers.
The show made me realize that, although I don't like much about the prequels, I really like the characters. It was amazing to see Ewan and Hayden back in these roles. Also, the kid who plays Leia was brilliant for such a young actress. Loved that!
I found it absolutely fascinating to read the book version of revenge of the sith, and realise that with just a little bit of tweaking (basically adding context and thoughts), it was a great story with thoroughly compelling characters.
@@miridium121 yup, i rewatched ROTS like two weeks ago and thoght the same thing. just that someone directed lucas a bit and advised him and it could have been amazing.
Ummmm. Please can ANY other fan agree with me that she is BY FAR the worst actress on the show. They kill off the one, The friggin 1 and ONLY decent female actress to focus on a 6 year old Leaia who's going for a genius, philosopher 10 year old who can quote Dostoevsky (I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S MORE ON THE SCRIPT THAN HER)?? In what universe was she acting well??? What was a standout moment in ANY episode? I'm curious
@@samueloneal3717 Jake Llyod bruh, miles ahead of him... I think you mistaking of 'bad kid actors' to just 'not liking kids acting'. Mccullay Culkin wasnt a thesbian as a kid, but was serviceable. Not every kid actor is a haley joel osment
I love the concept of the prequels and the characters, the biggest problem is the dialogue, acting and plot of the 1st 2 movies.
Good to see someone talk positively about this show
i absolutely don't get the hate
this show is soo good
The homeless Clone in the second episode nearly broke me. That little pause where we’re not sure if he maybe recognized General Kenobi, and Obi-Wan looking at him wondering if maybe they had served together. Such a perfect moment of Obi-Wan confronting his past.
Well said. Ten years on, a lot of broken people and ruined lives.
Vote 1 - Galactic veterans party. Ensure those who fought for you are repaid.
It broke you? Really…? God you people..
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
They will eat up any garbage Disney serves them like any other happy meal…
@@properduction2586 it’s fine to not enjoy all of this stuff, but just accept that some people will enjoy and find meaning in things you consider low quality
My single favorite shot/moment in Star Wars is now the high angle shot of Vader kneeling on the ground and screaming, "Obi-WAAAAAAAN!" with the suit's voice modulator maxing out, mixing with Hayden's voice. It's so powerful and sums up this character perfectly. Yes, he's scary, badass, and ridiculously powerful...but he's ultimately broken and always will be. It's heartbreaking, terrifying, and tragic all at the same time.
Agree. That scene burned itself into my memory. The ultimate Star Wars moment. Deeply tragic.
It's like Darth Maul screaming "KENOBI!"
Star Wars Rebels did it first
I guess you haven't seen Rebels then.
The delivery of that by Hayden elevated what could have been cheesy. You hear so many emotions in that yell. It’s part anger, part pleading, and part frustration. In that final moment you really feel the torture Anakin/Vader is going through. It’s hard to tell if he wants to kill Obi-Wan, or if he wants to be put out of his misery.
This was such a brilliant depiction of Vader, there’s so much of Anakin’s rage seeping through and just the way he moves is brilliant
Agreed. I think I can say I was pleasantly satisfied with Vader/Anakin. I that that dynamic was written very well.
That was Hayden Christensen in the suit. Turns out he's actually a pretty damn fine actor, with great physicality.
@@HOTD108_ it wasn't always him in the suit
I agree, the show handled Vader really, well although I still felt like he was kind of weak and less intimidating in the finale vs Obi Wan, and the way Obi Wan wins by overpowering him with a bunch of rocks feels very un obi wan-like.
@@HOTD108_ It may not have always been him in the suit but that finale was just wow. Anytime we saw Hayden in the show, it was always a fantastic scene and he always gave it his all.
I loved The Mandalorian, so i'm not a disney-starwars hater. But this show was a shock to me. The writing felt like it was done by children.
SPOILER ALERT
- The escape of Leia in Obi-Wan's coat
- The Leia chase scene in the forest
- The super dumb storm troopers looking for a jedi and a girl on a transporter
- Obi-Wan not being able to walk around a barrier
- The insane plot convenience, like Bale Organa telling EVERY secret in a holo-message
These and like dozens more made it inacceptable for me, and, to be honest, the fact that Chris accepted those writing mistakes just like that makes me very worried about Shelby Oaks :(
Dude. Star Wars is full of stupid stuff. It’s a story about space wizards. That’s what makes it fun. It shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Star Wars fans should realize this. It’s should never be taken too seriously and just have fun with the story.
@@matthewstrey5606 Just because there is "magic" stuff doesn't mean we can just throw abord all logic. There's a difference between inner logic and outer logic. The inner logic has to work within the rules of Star Wars. You can't just do one thing in one Star Wars movie and then completely contradict that in the next. That's annoying and poor storytelling. It's possible to do that well, Mandalorian shows that. And having fun doesn't mean telling absolutely absurd things that destroy the established Star Wars lore.
@@huawafabe Disney is now in charge of creating such lore. They can create their logic. Star Wars has been full of contradictions from the beginning. Disney tried taking a risk with the TLJ and it went terribly with some of the fan base. So now they think they have to play it safe. Because safe is the only thing that can please most of the fan base. Telling a good story In Star Wars means having contractions and absurd plot points. That’s the only way you can tell a good story in a universe like this
@@matthewstrey5606 I totally disagree, with the perfect example being called "The Mandalorian" (but also Rogue One for instance). So it just depends on who is writing and directing, and IT IS possible.
Disney should have learned from the sequel trilogy hate and just get some good writers that are worth the millions they cost. Obi-Wan felt like it was written by children, which completely ruined it for me. There was barely any drama, everything was just ridiculously resolved by plot convenience and horrible character decisions. Star Wars can be dark, you saw that in Episode V and VI, it can be fun too, which you saw in Episode I that I like nowadays (I already lowered my standards in hindsight).
I have high hopes about 'Andor', the series coming in August, it was done by the Rogue One creators, which was exactly the Star Wars we need, and the trailer looks good.
lol why on earth would you be excited about “Shelby Oaks.” Chris has a place on UA-cam. I understand the following. But what has ever suggested to you that he’s a deep thinker capable of making a great movie? It’s delusional
I give it a 7/10, although I feel it would've been better as a 2 hour film.
It’s a 2 or 3/10
Agreed! The last episode was everything that I'd hoped the show would be. Was a long wait to get there but I guess it was worth it, especially with the mentor relationship with Obi Wan and Leia
@@Rounderyathecruel Amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong
I’ve seen that opinion a bunch so I’m curious. Why would the show being a movie make more sense or make it better?
@@DHynes5 I agree.
So refreshing to hear a review that just explains honest feelings without worrying about backlash. I too liked this and the show made me happy. That's more than enough
Hooray!
how come garbage makes you happy ?
@@ohishipohi614 ur life must be hella sad
@@ohishipohi614 and still here u are watching review of a garbage show
This is why I subscribed to Chris in the first place. He just likes what he likes and is honest about it. Whether you agree or disagree, he doesn't care. When people say they hate Signs, he'll say he loves it. That's the kind of honesty I appreciate.
For me it even enhanced my A New Hope Love!
It enhanced love for both the PT and OT.
There were some real blunders in the Star Wars series scripts in the Disney era
Your positivity and stance on the UA-cam commentator community at large is truly a breath of fresh air. Thanks for you all you do !
MAMALO 😂
“I like this thing” =/= “This thing is good”. The ability to enjoy something while acknowledging it’s flaws (and vice versa) is an important skill to have.
Not quite. You can’t acknowledge flaws if you don’t agree with said flaws to begin with. Or if you don’t see the flaw at all. There are plenty of “criticisms” of shows that are ignorant and/or uninformed. And before someone puts words in my mouth, I have not said a single word of my opinion on Obi Wan.
@@nemesis8508 Nope. He’s right. It’s a growing problem and it’s getting annoying. Watching people “not agree” with gaping plot holes because the show did the key jangle and gave good feelings is embarrassing to behold.
It's Like Poetry, they Rhyme
@@spbynum "... embarrassing to behold." LMAO calm down buttercup. It's a TV show. Grow up and let's move on...
@@claudegrenier3180 And that is exactly how writing gets dumber: People too agreeable to say anything while the normies bark like seals when they hear the keys jangle.
A lot of the writing in this show was absolutely dreadful but seeing Hayden and Ewan together again brought a smile to my face, wish we could have saw more of them. You could tell the actors loved it too which always makes scenes better.
100% agree, their acting and character dynamics carried the show for me!
That was nice. Too bad they could be in a better show.
Writing ain't dreadful at all. It's way better written than the Sequel Trilogy. This show connects with both Original and Prequel trilogies, and it connects them really well.
@@BlazerK1914 That's not a high bar, being better than the Sequels(which is massively debatable at best) doesn't make it good.
It doesn't connect them well at all lol it's incredibly ham-fisted and added nothing to the universe at all.
Why was Vader so desperate to catch Obi-Wan but then after this series for the next 10 years or so doesn't even try to?
@@mrcheesemunch
It does connect them well. Wondering why Vader abandoned his search for Obi Wan? Because the Emperor wants to ensure Darth Vader’s loyalty to him. This show is so good, and it’s one of the best I’ve ever watched.
Those who obsess of the minutiae of Star Wars instead of just enjoying it as popcorn entertainment need to move out of their parents’ basements and get a life.
I love the prequel trilogy too! They arrived at just the right time for me, in my early teen years, they were spectacular!
I'm pretty sure that he didn't claim that he loves them.
@@collinsmcrae No you are right, he just said he has rewatched them numerous times, guess you only do that with movies you are lukewarm about...
@@Beaut_Beau If you are a fan of the franchise, sure. I watch James Bind marathons at least once a year, and I only really love a hand full of those films.
Chris -- I deeply appreciate the "you can love what's not perfect" take. Thank you for that.
I'll say the final episode of this show was EVERYTHING this old Star Wars fan wanted to see. (could use a touch less shaky cam in the fights, but that's it)
I also enjoyed the final fight, but I did feel like the fight was too easy for Obi Wan, and the way he beats Vader by overpowering him and throwing a bunch of rocks at him feels very un obi wan-like.
Flawed show? Yes, lots of flaws
But if you can't recognize some of the greatest moments in Star Wars happening right in front of you, then how can you consider yourself a fan?
@@mops515
But the great moments are completely overshadowed by the mind bending plot holes so what then ?
@@properduction2586 Literally ever show/movie you like can have "mind bending" plotholes if you're obsessed with finding and then bitching about them.
Seriously, you're watching a show with Obi-wan holding back tears seeing anakin through the Darth Vader helmet - and if you can't connect with that because of how a chase scene looked in episode 1 then your priorities are shite
@@mops515
1) Did you just do the “ This thing is bad but there are also other bad things “ type argument ? So ? The show has garbage writing..Do you have any valid points or you just trying to bullshit me here ?
2)How is your feelings a higher priority over good writing ? You have dogshit standards..
Made me love the prequel fights wayyyyyy more
Okay, mud shark.
@@Sandman_Slim the ability to speak does not make you intelligent
@@Ravensbro04 Change your name to skidmark. It suits you.
@@Ravensbro04 why do you keep responding to the obvious troll?
@@sindri1447 Plead with him enough and he might let you smell his finger.
I feel the exact same way about the prequels. For about 5-10 years online it was MASSIVELY popular to hate on them. It generated clicks. But now that I’m older, now that we’ve gotten the prequel trilogy. I can say I enjoy the prequels more than I ever did as a kid. Let us all just enjoy this wonderful franchise together.
The respect you give in your reviews is refreshing. Even the movies you don't like you still give respect to the movie and the work they put in to making it. Its nice to see a critic who doesn't just slam a movie for clicks and views. You bring integrity to the movie critic stage and its nice to see.
Well that goes against the title of critic doesn't it. He's "respecter" now. So brave and original. I can't with you people
Have you seen the Clone Wars? Is pretty good. I was already a prequel fan, being the Star Wars films that I grew up with, but Clone Wars cemented my love even further.
He definitely did. In fact he reviewed both Clone Wars 2003 and TCW. I don't know what Chris is saying with that title.
Are talking about Genndy Tartakovsky’s animated mini series or the cgi CN version.
I love both!
@@SwfanredLotr Yeah that's why I was confused cause I remember he review them but I thought it was just the movie not the series.
@@gideon1199 True that animated mini series was dope af!
@@batfreak1171 More than one thing can enhance your love for something.
"Anger is monetizable." So true.
You’re entitled to your beliefs, but I can objectively and constructively criticize what Disney did to this show. It had 2 maybe 3 good episodes. It was overall a letdown because they made Obi Wan a side character in his own show. I don’t trust your opinion on Star Wars content anymore, ever since you acted like The Last Jedi was such a great film. To each their own.
I honestly thought that Obi-Wan was able to see Qui-Gon as a ghost because now Obi-Wan's mind was finally at ease from carrying the weight of killing his apprentice. Vader lifted that guilt and burden from Obi-Wan by declaring he killed Anakin. With a clear head, he can now see his former Master's ghost
RIGHT ON THE MONEY when you said “I’m part of the generation that thought they would never get to see this stuff” I’m remember for years just playing scenarios in my head of them bringing Hayden back, just wishing they would. And they fucking did it man! It may not have been perfect, but getting to see Hayden and Ewan together was worth it for the Nostalgia alone. I’m happy after all the bullshit Disney did with the Sequel Trilogy.
And we're seeing WHY we didn't get to see this sort of stuff.... Because film makers and show writers ruin what we once loved. This didn't enhance the prequels films as much as it made A New Hope completely worthless. We never got this in the past because Hollywood used to actually take their creative integrity seriously, now it's literally nostalgia bait with no good writing or ideas at the helm and I guarantee not a single person can tell me that's not what Kenobi represents. Bad writing that manipulates our nostalgic brains into enjoying it, the fact people like this simply because they rehashed everything from revenge of the Sith is actually quite pathetic and shows how low the bar has become for Star Wars.
@@razzprince2877 or worse when they fill established fantasy/science fiction franchises with contemporary social issues 🤮
@@razzprince2877 It is ironic that Hollywood made better movies when they were high on coke and screwing every chick that worked under them.
The way I personally see the Obi-Wan Kenobi show is that it could've been much better than it already is. There is parts of it that I personally didn't enjoy that much but when it hits, it hits hard. And I feel like, even if just for the shows greatest moments, it's super worth to watch it. I was in tears during the last episode.
How much were you paid? This video was almost ratioed by dislikes.
75% 👍 and 25% 👎
Oh yeah! 🙄 they really showed him! 😒🤣🤣🤣
The biggest praise I can give this show is Ewan McGregor’s performance throughout the whole thing, he honestly carried the whole show, especially in my favorite moment when he beats Darth Vader and the conversation between them, that shit hit me to my core.
Ewan and Hayden amazing in this show
He’s always been the perfect Obi-Wan
McGregor is so good in this role. Considering how daunting it must have been for him when he signed up for the prequels, he showed a lot of confidence and was probably the best thing about those films.
I needed this video. Thanks for making it. I've been a fan of Kenobi, as well as the Sequel trilogy, and I've felt ostracized by this community for my enjoyment. Knowing there are others willing to say similar things brings me, for lack of a better word, solace.
There are plenty of us who don’t just hate everything Star Wars just because it’s popular to do so, sadly our voices seem to be drowned out by the cesspool of negative people out there.
@@bjmanzey most people don’t hate this show because its a ‘popular’ thing to do. They hate it because of the shitty and uncreative writing and it fucks with Star Wars on a whole. They hate it because they love the canon so much
@@grunntalll well keep telling yourself that because as someone who owns EVERY SINGLE BOOK FROM CANON AND LEGENDS this show doesn’t mess up canon AT ALL and as a whole helps it. It gives a reason why Vader says Obi wan once thought as you did, it explains why Leia names her son Ben, it explains why she doesn’t acknowledge this adventure they had by Obi wan telling her no one must ever know that they know each other and it explains how Obi wan comes to terms with his failures to go from the prequel Obi wan to the original Obi wan. And if you don’t like certain aspects of it, that’s fine but don’t go crying about canon when this show does more for canon than most anything else does.
@@grunntalll dude you’re exactly what they’re talking about. Shut up and let people enjoy things.
While I personally don't really like the sequels, I'm not in such a sorry state that I'd make fun of people for liking them at this point in my life. I'm sorry there are still people like that out there, and keep enjoying what you enjoy!
I truly appreciate and admire your positivity and passion, Chris. This show gave me exactly what I wanted, and more. I absolutely loved it, and it's easily one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars media.
How old are you? 13?
Wtf 😂
This series enhanced my love of the prequels.
By showing me they could have been a lot worse.
Prequels have nothing to do with this shit
@@Small-Chap r/woosh
I really don’t get why people complained about Hayden not being de-aged enough, he looked great to me. I like Darth Vader, but I’d love to see more of Anakin. Give him a spin off series!
Because they didn't even try to make him look younger when they made obi wan look younger. I'd at least appreciate the effort, and this show didn't care at all about about good production quality
because he looked obviously way older. He had damn wrinkles. Or did he look like a 17 or 18 year old to you?
@@Revan-eb1wb obi wan looked younger than anakin, they can't make people look younger with makeup? Nicole kidman looked really young in the northman in the first act and then later looked exactly her age. I dont think the creators of this show put this much effort into it there are many technical issues going on
well it wasn't that good. You can Cleary see his age
I'll say something right off the bat: I think Lucas actually helped to very simply, and quickly, explain Kenobi's lie to Luke about his father being "betrayed and murdered" by Vader. When he and Yoda learn of Anakin's involvement in the slaughter of the Jedi at the temple, he pleads with Yoda to let him fight Palpatine because he wouldn't be able to fight or kill Anakin. Yoda is the one to tell him that Anakin is dead, betrayed and murdered by Vader. After watching the duel between Kenobi and Vader, it wasn't a huge leap for me to come to the conclusion that Kenobi hammered that particular "point of view" into his mind during his long exile.
Now with that said, I think Vader's statement to Kenobi in the finale of "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was great. I could have accepted my previous interpretation, but Obi-Wan using Vader's own words was very poetic, imo.
That scene was literally there to let Obi Wan know Anakin is truly dead and it is just Darth Vader standing in front of him now. And yet Obi Wan walks away for Vader to continue taking over the galaxy. Sure. Great protectors the Jedi were. Don't know why they wanted his help 10 years later.
totally agree, Chris. Never thought I'd see some of things we're getting. And Ewan and Hayden wanting to come back and tell more stories really is a gift.
Yeah, even when it comes to the stuff I didn't much care for overall, such as the Boba Fett series, I still got to see cool shit like Boba riding around on the back of a rancor monster... if you'd told my younger self he'd one day see that it would've blown his mind.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 My favorite scene of Book of Boba Fett is Danny Trejo wheeling in to present the rancor while his hair is blowing in the breeze. 😊
@@shelbyvillerules9962 Exactly. I catch flack for this but I’m honestly happy just seeing these prequel actors back in their roles.
The chase scene tho with Leia 💀
Yeah that was off but it didn’t take away from the show as a whole tho at all. Now that’s just over exaggerating things badly.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Yeah.... Leia hiding under the coat didn't take away from the show as a whole tho either.... At ALL.... Trash show lol
@@Lord_Alimdor lol not even close, nothing about the show is “tRaSh sHoW lOL” at all and the only thing that IS trash is your comment here entirely so.
Nothing about this “leia hiding under coat” didn’t “rUinED” anything at all. lol what? That DIDN’T happen at all, My goodness you are so wrong here with everything you’ve said.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Sorry but this show is objectively bad
@@darkmagicianfan3423 lol not even close, this show is NOT “oBjEVtiVely Bad” at all, lol you people are so shallow that you use the word “objectively” as much as you can to make your nonsensical opinions a fact. You’re wrong and you’ve been wrong by coming over here. Just stop as the show is overall a very GOOD show as a whole due to its positives!
I personally don't feel the same way as Chris, I thought that the Obi Wan series was a highlight of Disney's mishandling of the Star Wars franchise; I thought the character of Reva was written really poorly; I thought the decisions they made Vader and Kenobi do were poor and not thought out, etc etc. That being said, I love the optimism and enthusiasm he gives the show because it reminds me why I even watched the show in the first place, so thanks Chris for reminding me to not be so critical and just be happy that we're even getting to see Kenobi throw down with Anakin once again
Even though I was disappointed by the show and personally didn’t like it, I really found your review to be both helpful and a breath of fresh air. It’s totally cool to like or dislike something and we should normalize not having to constantly defend our positions because at the end of the day we’re all just fans! I’m really happy many people enjoyed this series because Ewan and Hayden and Moses deserve to be supported, and your comment on how you may have contributed to the outlook of fanbases struck a chord with me on a residual level. Never thought about things like that but this was a great review, and I’m so glad you chose to review it. Great video Chris
We're all fans, except the losers who were racist to Moses Ingram, or the ones that "aren't racist" but say "she was only cast because she's black".
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Some people decided to hate Reva character long before the show started. Because of that, she could do no right by them. Also, people will always see what they want to see.
Well spoken. I mostly enjoyed the show but the fans are so annoying. Half seem like they expected perfection and are outraged they didn't get it while the other half are pretending it's the greatest thing to ever exist. Remember when level-headed discussions were a thing? People forget that you can enjoy something while acknowledging it's flaws and vice-versa. Anyway, thanks for being rational lol
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 Some of us feel she didn't do justice to the Reva character. O'Shea did a good job as Roken, you could see a great leader in the making in his performance.
@@mahfuzurchowdhury2765
She comes of as someone who was cast to check boxes…I mean her acting is shit…Her constant pandering to “ there’s so much diversity “ …Do you see where I’m going with this ?
Thank you. I feel the exact same way about this show, and star wars in general lately. I hate having to defend my position as someone who enjoys the majority of the Disney-Era. It's so refreshing to hear someone else just GET it. I really appreciate the positivity you're trying to cultivate on your channel, and I can't wait to see your movie.
Lol. Disney era Star Wars is just pathetic.
How can anybody like Disney Star Wars? It truly baffles my goddamn mind. IT. IS. SO. BAD. Only George can make Star Wars.
Lol
@@Ethan_Alexandur I counter with Rogue One.
@@Ethan_Alexandur Lucas actually liked Rogue One and The Mandalorian better than the sequel trilogy, what about the last season of Clone Wars?
“Imma ignore the fact that this show was 90% plot holes, writing issues, poor editing, dreadful cinematography, and completely bland music and just focus on the 10% nostalgia bait”
Always loved the prequels as I grew up with them. Didn't even know they weren't well recieved originally. The flashbacks along with Vader/Anakin scene made the show worth the watch
no, fans didn't like them either. children enjoyed them, but not many who saw the originals
Saw them all in theaters. Yeah, they suck.
Red Letter Media, Plinkett reviews
@@travisspazz1624 better than sequels
theys arent well received now either xD
The show helped explain why Obi-Wan was so cold to Vader in a New Hope too. He witnessed some of the atrocities Vader had done up close and personal. And that last duel, Vader made it clear that Anakin is no more and he considered himself a whole nother entity now.
So why did he leave Vader alive?
@@bongwaterbojack why did he leave him alive in RotS?
@@bongwaterbojack Probably same reason why he did in episode 3. Just leave him to suffer and die on his own. Kenobi isn't an executioner and isn't gonna off an already beaten man. Even Anakin knew that was against the Jedi way.
@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 That's the sort of thing that sounds neat when you don't think about it. But it also makes Kenobi complicit in every murder Vader commits after. Who knows? With Vader out of the picture, the Empire might've fallen sooner. Alderaan might've never been destroyed. None will ever know just how many people died in service of Obi-Wan's morals. All we know is that they died. Writers wrote themselves into a corner and solved it by making Obi-Wan a villain. Nice.
not really. We already understood it in new hope. THe show was not needed
Despite all the flaws with the show I honestly enjoyed it. Seeing Ewan and Hayden as Obiwan and Anakin was awesome to see. I've always had a soft spot for the prequels and seeing a show that pays tribute to that trilogy was great.
All Star Wars has highs and lows (flaws) doesn’t it. The prequels are all highly concentrated in flaws compared to this series 👍
I just watched the entire series in a matter of three days. After hearing such negative reviews of it, a friend of mine said it was amazing. I was reluctant but he invited me over and we watched the first four episodes back to back.
I was blown away by how good the series was in the first four episodes. It was grounded in what typical humans would do like Obi Wan being depressed and like a vagabond, just drifting through life because he has this tremendous burden on his shoulders, in his eyes, failing the Jedi and failing Anakin only to be shocked that he is alive! Talk about trauma! I liked that he was rusty in his Jedi abilities and lightsaber skills when he was facing Darth Vader the first time. This just seemed so logical and grounded in reality imo. I enjoy Obi's character arc in this show, very touching!
The final two episodes were simply amazing, especially the final fight between Vader and Obi! I was literally crying like a baby by just the interaction between them, not only the physical fight but the dialogue and mental obstacles being overcome by Obi. Was simply amazing and enjoyed every minute of it.
I am a big critic of Disney and don't really like them as a company and the direction they are going but this show is an exception to the rule. I do not understand the criticism of this show specifically, others certainly but this show just showed a star wars story and nothing woke or politically imo. Hope Mando season 3 is good!
What did you think of Andor? Considering that show is all political
Agreed, Chris. Especially that scene in the finale where Vader and Obi Wan were fighting; the duality of when Vaders mask was off and he yelled “Obi Wan!” in Anakin + Vaders voice. Chills.
I'm a creative in Hollywood, and I've been watching Chris for years so it's important for this to be said... Since Chris took the leap into the directing pool his reviews have changed dramatically. He no longer grades movies and he will not say a single bad word about a Disney property (check the videos). This is so ridiculous. It's so obviously he's trying to play the Hollywood game because he's either afraid of Disney or wants to worm his way into directing Disney IP at some point. It clear as day... In fact, for a writer director to not point out problems with Obi-Wan and to say "I loved it" means he is either a terrible writer, terrible critic, or lying... You can love Obi Won, but there are incredibly poor elements to the show that an honest critic should point out.
I personally don't have a problem with this because I am in Hollywood and clearly see what he is doing (every person in Dishonest-wood does this dance publicly), but don't turn on your camera and record videos where you're trying to fool your subscribers with your vanilla reviews. Just shut down your challenge and go direct movies. Or say "I am doing the Hollywood dance because I want to slobber my way into directing Hollywood films...".
You built a fanbase by being a critic... but you're so clearly not doing that anymore. It's dishonest.
No. He just likes the show it’s not that deep
@@anonx111 Wrong. He's lying right to your face and then using his channel to raise money for his movie. If he wants to give honest reviews and raise money, all good. But he's taking your money and then trying to "play nice" with Hollywood so that he can get directing gigs. 100%.
The problem is that I have watched nearly all of his video for a decade and the change is glaring. You want easy proof... Where is his "Worst Movies of 2021"?? Chris is no longer an honest movie critic which he was for nearly a decade. He's being dishonest and also asking you to finance his film... Ask yourself why a channel with 2 million subs doesn't generate enough money to finance an Indie Horror Film?? This is where the line should be drawn. He is using his fans for money, but then not being a honest critic.
@@paulmark7815
Chris Strawman has always been a huge Disney shill but what makes it worse now is that he’s getting paid for it…
I liked it in many ways, and moments in the finale were so, so good - I'm just sad thinking what a better writing team and production design team might have done. Lot of missed opportunities. Lot of bungled opportunities. But had some great stuff in the mix.
chris thought the writing was perfect, sadly i no longer value his opinion
Very true, huge missed opportunity.
@@mainsource8030 yeah…this video was eye opening.
Right now this series is a bit of a mess. They could come back later and fix some of the FX shots, maybe fill in some of the plot holes around Reva, tweak some things in the story line. But right now it needs work.
@@mainsource8030 Just because you don't agree with him here, doesn't change anything about how good he his at this job. Chris is still the same critic he's always been.
Now Star Wars has always been very personal to a lot of people. Appropriately, not everybody views it the same way. For me the Grand Inquisitor in Obi Wan was majorly disappointing, but most people haven't seen Star Wars Rebels, so they don't really have that comparison.
I hate Reva. They made every possible mistake when it comes to building a good villain or even a good character. But I watched for Ewan and Hayden. They are amazing.
9:42-10:25 - Chris talking about recognizing how negative media discourse on YT becoming too much of the norm is so refreshing and is yet another great example of why he’s always been my favorite on here. He has contributed to it in the past, but he made an effort to not add to that anymore and I love him for that.
no. Some people just have standards and they are pissed how disney is handling star wars. The show is poorly written just as book of boba fett.
If he isn't able to actively criticise anything anymore... then what exactly is the purpose of these reviews? I don't see any 'negative' reviews on YT re. Top Gun Maverick for example. Probably because it's a great production created with passion. Disney should look into that one of these days.
I've watched Chris for 8 years or so. It's sad to see him play it so safe ever since he started to get into the business. I do not blame him at all though, who wouldn't do the same? He might end up working with these people. It's not negative to criticize a lazy cash grab, which is the Disney special now. Oh well.
@@Revan-eb1wb still, at least for me it gets tiring to hate something, yes the show has its flaws but it also has really good moments, just like the prequels. It's important to have standards but the hate the show is getting is monumentally overblown. Have standards, but also be polite please
@@minesbanduk Reviews are supposed to reflect the reviewer's thoughts on the content in question, which means they vary from person to person. Just cause you don't agree with what he says doesn't mean it's bad or he can't actively criticize anything anymore, it just means you have a different opinion
I liked the prequels. I was a kid when they came out too. They told the story I was expecting. Anakin becoming a Jedi, husband and father then falling to the dark side. It didn't mess with the continuity.
Except for a few bigger details still. I think there is a reason that if the other shows didn’t happen, we’re still gonna be saying Revenge of the Sith is probably the only movie that really needed to happen in terms of a prequel.
How can anyone even pretend to consider themselves a valid critic of the medium when they're actively terrified of criticising films/tv shows now? We criticise products as a means of maintaining high standards and that becomes ever more paramount when you have such a large following who rely on your opinions. It's not inherently negative so long as its constructive and rational, and the fact is, the vast majority of the complaints made against this show are constructive and rational, and especially with regards to glaring plotholes, contrivances and things that just muddy the waters of Star Wars continuity. There's a reason why this show has a mediocre 75% critic rating, and even worse 65% user rating on RT; it's because it's a mediocre, lazily written show, elevated only in so much as its cheap fan service and rememberberries.
It's a shame as once upon a time, Chris would be able to point these things out as any good critic should and I've relied on those rational reviews to influence what I've watched in the past. Simply liking something and explaining why is one thing, but just saying 'I don't criticise anything anymore because its too negative' is pretty damn pathetic to be honest. Just leaves me thinking what the actual point of this channel is now. Ah well, I'll see myself out.
I’ve been reluctant to unsubscribe since I did really like his past reviews. When he announced his reasoning for no longer recording film critiques, I thought “Sure, I guess I understand” and was interested in seeing indie film shout-outs and videos about the filmmaking process.
But these “reviews” he keeps pushing come across as inauthentic or moronic. His overinflated praise for these bland Disney shows & movies are reallyyyy making me doubt his skills as a critic and he’s playing up the annoying defense that recent Star Wars and Marvel fans parrot: that people should be thankful for any “content”, that people should move on and not say anything negative if they don’t like it, to just enjoy it for the action and one-liners and cameos, bla bla bla.
Feels like he’s kissing up to these directors and showrunners with the hope of working with them in the future…
@@Eirex Yep, totally agree. I hate to use the word, but it's very shill-like behaviour which unfortunately is something I've seen before from UA-camrs who start to get closer to the industry they're commenting on. This idea that it's just 'contributing to negativity' doesn't even make sense because critique can be purely rational and explained. There are plenty of channels out there that do nothing but heap praise on everything they consume, particularly surrounding Star Wars. But this guy is supposed to be a critic, and built his entire livelihood on this platform based on that. As soon as he gets a break in terms of making films, all integrity goes out of the window.
Chris I'm gonna give you one more chance before I unsub to prove that you can be noble AND criticize movies. You're not being harsh for doing your job mate, I find it funny when ppl bash a little
This show meant alot to me revenge of sith was the first star wars film I ever saw I was 7 and it was so nostalgic and awesome to see my child hood heroes again and really gave me chills to see hayden under the mask it really made the 2 characters of anakin and vader come together
And the feels of when obiwan talked to leia about padme
My only complaint was I wish uncle owen and aunt beru were in it more 😂
Agreed, now we need a flashback of Obi Wan, Anakin and Ahsoka during the Clone Wars era and I could die in peace.
Punctuation. You should try it.
@@adomolis @adomolis like putting a comma after punctuation instead of a period. Just the word punctuation is not a proper one word sentence 😂
@@Valihir XD
@@Valihir excuses excuses.
You are spot on about anger being monetizable. There are "review" channels out there that are made up of almost entirely negative videos bashing on whatever the current mainstream show or movie is. Positive reviews rarely exist on these channels and if they do, they're from a time before they realised all the money was in pandering to the outrage crowd. Now their comments sections are full of people that use words like "wahmen".
Yep. I agree 100%. Those pathetic channels were already shitting the show BEFORE it even came out based on rumoured leaks of what was going to happen with certain characters. They were making videos about disney ruining Obi-Wan weeks in advance. People were ready to hate on it before they had even watched the first episode. It's honestly pathetic. The show has many problems IMO but too many people really wanted to dislike it before going in because "lol disney star wars bad".
I agree theres alot of money to be made and the drinker keeps spamming the same videos. But even though theyre getting old hes speaking straight facts.
Yea those channels are sad af and weird, the ppl that go there are definitely pathetic
It makes me wonder how someone could be satisfied with their life when everything they post is hateful. What makes it worse is that those channels are basically in an echo chamber, with a bunch of “yes men” in the comments only adding to the hate and rage.
Like Doomcock. I used to follow his channel until the hate just got out of control. Episode 6 was objectively a good episode. Disney has a lot of crap but they'll hit the nail on the head from time to time and the Obi vs Vader fight was one of those times.
Chris’s review of The Rise of Skywalker will always be something that I will remember. In it, he talked about how Star Wars is always embraced by different generations. I grew up with the prequels and I love them to this day. Many kids will grow up with the Sequel Trilogy and Obi-Wan Kenobi and also love those too.
I don’t know about that. The sequel trilogy was a special case.
Sequel trilogy is easily my fav.
@@sonicstage1 Ouch.
Chris is working real hard on this one
The only thing I was worried about was Hayden’s acting, and all my worries went away when he appeared in the flashback. I felt that he has honed his craft and the direction truly helped him out.
Wished we got more of him!
@@bencarlson4300 YES! I am happy with what we got though. Especially in the last episode. His scene with Obi-Wan was well crafted and shows his full transformation to Vader
What I most enjoyed was the season, gave more of a reason why Leia would reach out to Obi-Wan for help. Before this series she was reaching out to an old man her father knew and trusted. Now it is she is reaching out to a man she has a connection to and deeply trusts. It gives more weight to the adult Leia and Ben relationship even though their actors never had a scene together in the original films.
Except she has absolutely zero reaction to Ben’s death so canonically it makes no sense
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob I was just about to say that. Yeah it’s very strange to me, after seeing this series, that Leia just runs into the falcon and doesn’t have any reaction to seeing Obi-Wan dueling Vader in A New Hope. Even after Obi-Wan is struck down and Luke is mourning on the falcon, Leia is beside him consoling him as if it was only Luke who truly lost someone he cared about. Maybe it was because she had only spent a brief amount of time with him and never saw him again till the events of A New Hope. Or maybe it was because she was still so devastated by the destruction of Alderaan that she didn’t have the emotional bandwidth to process the loss of Obi-Wan. I don’t know, either way it’s pretty annoying when you have to jump through so many hoops just to keep the continuity intact in your head.
That being said though, this was just a small detail that really bugged me. I still absolutely loved the Obi-Wan series. The season had a pretty rough start, but totally stuck the landing in my book. The last episode made the entire thing worth it.
it made no sense
@@prim34ev I think Leia never knew the Obi-Wan of Episode IV was his Ben because as a child she knew him as Ben.
@@silentgnome in the fourth episode when Reva is interrogating Leia, Reva says to Leia, “Obi-Wan is dead, no one is coming for you.” So Leia is aware that he also goes by the name Obi-Wan.
There were the omnipresent plot holes that almost define Star Wars but that made me like it even more. I had a big smile on my face at the end of the finale and after all, isn't that what it's all about?
I've been a lifelong fan since 1977.
I am done, SO done, with defending my love of all things Star Wars to other "fans."
I thought Kenobi was a good show. Not great, not perfect. But good, fun, entertaining and ultimately satisfying.
If you hated it, I don't care. I'm not interested in trying to convince you otherwise.
Thank you 😭😭😭 Any lifelong fan since the 70s who doesn't make it their job to inform newer fans everything they despise about anything Star Wars post original trilogy.... is a godsend. The purists make it difficult to love Star Wars these days. I'm happy you enjoyed the show! I did as well ♥️
@@erinlaboricua Same here i love all the major star wars films. i love the OTs the presquals and the squals (please don't hate on me) even if I there was one or two story elements I didn't agree with I love the character designs the music and the fights. i almost never hate on a film just because. I always try to see the good and the bad and the grey. i hate when people hate on a film because it wasn't like the originals. as an example in the x-men films one the most hated was "the last stand". Its not perfect but the music and the fights/stunts were amazing. but because the original and X2 was so beloved it got a lot of unessary hate. I love that film. Its so unfair to love or like a film or a tv show and be hated on by other people because you don't have the same opinion. THAT's bulling and totally unfair you guys. 😭😭🙂👍❤💔❣
@@ifallintofantasy Yes! You said it perfectly, the good the bad and the grey.
wow, surprised! I thought you would have MANY problems with this series. Im pleasantly surprised and glad you liked it!
there are problems he choose to ignore
The dude is a sell out
This is hands down the earliest I’ve ever been to a video😂
Congrats on the participation trophy?
You win this Gorilla Glue. Now put it in your hair.
@@Sandman_Slim ah yes, the perfect shortcut to fame
I enjoyed most of it. The last episode made me legitimately emotional. So many parallels.
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker... I did."
So parallels make something good? The show is terrible. They couldn’t even manage to keep the camera still. The writing even worse.
You have horrible taste in media.
@@Rounderyathecruel you’re a clown. This final fight was one of the best in all of Star Wars.
@@Rounderyathecruel Star Wars is nothing but parallels.
Chris seems for a while now you go out of your way not to upset the woke weirdos in Hollywood even joining them, trying to be a film maker you cant be upsetting these weirdos that's understandable, you should concentrate on that movie and forget about reviews,your opinion cant be taken seriously anymore, I've watched the change in this channel and in you and its substantial
I love that you're a supporter Chris and it's great you're speaking your mind without thought to what people are hoping to hear.
The main issues i have with the D+ SW content is i) lack of creative ambition (e.g. always pulling up from emotional gut punches and exploring moral ambiguity); ii) the Disney template is becoming more pronounced e.g. highly competent children and the force feeling a bit like wishing upon a star; and iii) an over reliance on Volume. They really need to get out of the studio more often.
Keep up the great work.
You just described Star Wars since 1977. Lol
@@al112v4 if you really think that, I suggest you a rewatch
@@al112v4 Why didnt Qui Jon force heal himself after Maul stabbed him? Star Wars was never this over the top. Disney is pretty much rewriting Lucas's story at this point.
@@gregcullers6064 the prequels are very over the top
@@mcp1981 Examples?
That final confrontation with Vader was heart wrenching.
No. No it wasn't.
@@Sandman_Slim the ability to speak does not make you intelligent
@@Ravensbro04 He's not speaking tho, he's writing so.... You're not the intelligent one right?
@@JonytobiUchiha ok the ability to write does not make you intelligent. Is that better?
@@Sandman_Slim ur so edgy and controversial, I bet u get btches
Totally enjoyed Ewan and Hayden in this series. From their interactions to their characters alone. Like you could tell Ewan and Hayden missed playing these characters and had fun doing it again after so long and it really showed. Did the series have a lot of questionable moments, details, and flaws? Definitely. But I still enjoyed it and wasn't left disappointed. I just wish there were more episodes and I mean that in a good way.
Great point about "critical eye" and basing your appreciation of a Disney Star Wars feature on what your decisions would be if you were to be in charge. Ewan was great. Obi-Wan provided us a chance to see him expand on the character. Regardless of inconsistencies, we have another Star Wars show to appreciate for years to come and hopefully it will get its due praise. If he enjoyed doing it once, I'd love to see him reprise the role in another series.
I mean it got decent reviews.Not great like the mandalorian but not too bad like the bobf show
i dont get this "yeah its not that great, but hey, its star wars. And thats all we need" nah man. I want decent tv. This was hardly that.
Chris Stuckmann you don't see any faults with this series?
The transition from film reviewer to film creator is now complete I guess.
What the new obi-wan series added to the star wars legacy.
1) Hunting sequences where 10-year-olds outrun adult bounty hunters, sith, and jedi.
2) 10-year-olds being wiser and smarter than adults.
3) Having lightsabers thrust through the chest is 100% not deadly.
4) Teleporting Villains, on par with Jason from Friday the 13 movies, and video games.
5) Powers fluctuate from Useless to superpowerful based on the needs of the plot, instead of being the constant that shapes the plot.
6) Obi-Wan is responsible for all the deaths in the original movies.
Thank you!! Finally someone who has enough brain cells to see right through Chris Strawman’s shitty review…
You are definitely right about this sphere of UA-cam becoming more and more focused on whining and nitpicking everything, and never being satisfied with anything. It is nice to see that there are some UA-camrs who choose to be more positive and constructive. Thank you, Chris.
With that said, I have to admit I was disappointed by a major portion of the show. I was not able to get emotionally involved until the finale. There, they finally got me with probably the most emotional lightsaber duel in SW (minus, Luke vs Anakin, maybe).
Looking back, I think I would have wanted the show to really focus entirely on Obi and Anakin. Tie the present with their past, and so on. Leia was fine, but I really expected this story to be about Obi-Wan. We did not get enough of that.
Nitpicking ? This show has terrible writing and apparently if someone calls out dogshit writing it’s “nitpicking” ? Yeah huge thanks to Chris Stuckmann shitty reviews of a shitty Star Wars content,now I have standards for writing that apparently you simpletons don’t have..these will people will Consume product and then wait for next product…
well said. I think they handled the emotional journey obi-wan goes through really really well. I just wished they could have integrated it much more into his internal struggles, instead of having him run around the galaxy again
No. There is plenty of stuff they like. Top Gun, The Northman, Everthing Everywhere all at Once, Spiderman No way Home, The Black Phone, Cobra Kai and Stranger things season 4. Just because they criticize a lot of content doesn't mean they hate everything.
@@william9170 I think his point still stands, and is even acknowledged by plenty of channels out there. Critiquing things makes more views than praising them. But most, if not all star wars critics would probably love to exchange their views for some well-crafted, well-written star wars content
@@william9170 I don't have a problem with constructive and fair criticism. That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm referring to the rampant amount of UA-camrs who capitalize on attracting hate mobs by complaining about, and nitpicking the hell out of, every popular show or movie that is targeted by those groups.
It is a good way to make easy money off of people, but it is slowly lowering the value of online reviews.
Obi Wan is my favourite character and I was really happy to see Ewan McGregor back. I feel that people have their expectations so high that reality can never really compete. Like you said, for me watching every episode brought me joy.
Perfect comment. I completely agree with you.
As if the writing of the show is decent to
begin with…Please stop using the bullshit excuse “ Your expectations were too high that’s the only reason you didn’t like it “…
@@properduction2586 nothing is perfect. Writing can be poor and inaccurate. For example, no one was speaking to you, and yet, your written response here implies that that someone was. Have your opinion my friend. I'll have mine.
I was reluctant to comment initially because as Chris said in the video. We shouldn't be ridiculed for enjoying something but there we go. Not everyone will like everything and that's fine. I enjoyed it and that's good enough for me.
@@thatguywhocallsmebill5797
Genius response…You defeated me by not making a single counter argument…
These comments are awful. Man decides to talk positively about a series he likes and the comments dunk on him for it. This is why I don't associate with the star wars fandom.
It’s a dogshit review of a dogshit show with dogshit writing…Figure it out 🤦♂️
I’m really exasperated by a lot of the Star Wars fandoms whinging. Do you even care that much if you insist on making the whole experience so joyless. I know that these Prequel characters and their stories meant the absolute world to me in the darkest parts of my childhood and I’m just happy I get to see my old friends again. Criticism is fine but the bad faith is what gets me.
I feel if we keep accepting “okay” content from Disney, we will never get the Star Wars content that it is capable of being. I’m a bit surprised from Chris, I don’t expect him to hate the show, but there’s legitimate writing and screen choices that he critiques in many of his other reviews that he did not do in this one. It’s sad to me that any honest criticism is immediately categorized into a toxic fan base and Star Wars has definitely been put into that box.
Didn't Chris say that he would stop being negative, cause now he just appreciates everyone is trying their best. It's a different view from just being a star wars fan, being a moviemaker.
@@asif9t9 I do remember that, and I appreciate that side of him by all means, honestly if this was any other show, he probably wouldn’t have even reviewed it 🤷♂️
@@asif9t9 so hes not a critic anymore, having an only positive opinion isnt a good thing unless everything is good
he actually said that he couldnt see anything wrong with the writing or any inconsistencies and unless he has amnesia , hes lying, such a shame, im unsubbing i think
mandalorian?
I always found myself watching the newest episode at 1:00 AM, loving it, going to bed, then waking up to a world of nitpickers. Some people really just can't be happy. It does seem, however, that most can agree that the finale was incredible.
I know you likely won't see this but Chris,you've really healed a part of me that's been wounded seeing such negativity for this show. it's been a little heartbreaking seeing certain strong stances fuelled by derision - particularly around Leia and Reva - and you really put my exact thoughts into words; I _never_ thought we'd even _get_ this show. I was enthralled by the novelty of seeing Ewan and Hayden on the screen again in roles they were TERRIBLY criticised and ridiculed for two decades ago, and i feel having that appreciation for the context behind which this show was delivered was big for me. I was grateful to have it and I think they _did a good job._ Reva's arc is a poignant lesson delivered by a wonderful actor. Leia and Obi-Wan share a relationship that, by all accounts, Obi-Wan likely never thought he'd get again - the last person to make him laugh _before Leia_ that we see being _Anakin himself._ it touched upon so many beautiful threads and wove them back into ones that'd been hanging loose for 20+ years and I just. yeah. thank you for this video. I needed it and I wholeheartedly empathise :)
what they said
That show was the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen
Cope
My issue is that they put more time and care into a series about a random mandalorian than they did with Obi-Wan. It’s fucking Obi-Wan! He’s arguably the most important character in the entire franchise. Growing up loving Star Wars, Obi-Wan has always been my favorite out of all characters, and I just feel like this was incredibly underwhelming. That being said, what were the best parts of this series? Obi-Wan and Vader interacting. Those two could sit down and have tea and I’m there for it on the edge of my seat. I love seeing more from the inquisitors too which we’ve never seen much of. But man, why did the budget seem so terrible for a Disney show? Why did I see obi wan’s lightsaber bounce off someone and not go through them? What was up with Tala slapping that storm trooper in the helmet? I’m torn. Some parts were so good and some parts were so bad
I agree with you it was so underwhelming and poorly written, I expected as much care as the madalorian, or at least close to that, but no, they didn't even give much respect to the Canon
Refreshing to know I’m not alone in thoroughly enjoying it. Thanks for this video Chris
Not sure how you didn’t see any of the many issues with this show. I’m honestly jealous
Art is subjective
I don’t think he’s saying that the show didn’t have issues, I think he’s saying that he was able to enjoy it regardless. I feel pretty much the same, I have problems with a lot of it but overall it was just a cool Star Wars thing that they gave us and I can’t really complain about that. And I also think that the arc they gave Obi-Wan was amazing. The show around it does have a lot of flaws though.
You're watching these shows for all the wrong reasons if the only thing you worry about is what's wrong with them.
So, Obi-Wan calling Anakin "Darth" here, explains Obi-Wan calling Anakin "Darth" in the film. Excellent logic.
The biggest compliment I can give this series is while I’m someone that feels no enjoyment watching the SW Prequel trilogy, this series did give me enjoy and excitement which made me at least respect the existence of the Prequels much more than I did before I watched this series.
Chris is AMAZING with words!! 💙😭💙
Chris makes a valid point about how "negativity" has seemingly been monetized by certain UA-camrs in more recent years, who have realized that a large number of people out there simply want to wallow in an echo chamber of cynicism and hate.
Chris ‘I’ve been corresponding with Disney via emails’ Stuckmann
“Disney have put out plenty of stuff I didn’t like”
Literally me with everything MCU post Endgame.
@@somerandolad that was Sony
absolutely. Endgame was Endgame! I dont need all that multiverse-bullshit thats coming out now -.-
Even Spider-Man: No Way Home? I'm not gonna yell at you I am genuinely asking haha
Yeah because Shang Chi, Wandavision, Loki, NWH, and Multiverse of madness were so bad lmao FOH
@@swastikarya941 yes Sony, the same company that made the two Venom movies, and Morbius, one of THE movies of all time, is solely responsible for the success of No Way Home.
There were many moments throughout the show I found super endearing. Kenobi's interactions with Leia were so on-point. The last two episodes really tied it all together for me.
You perfectly summed up my feelings toward this show. I went in wanting to be entertained and I was entertained. If it was “bad,” like a lot of people seem to want to force others to believe, I and they wouldn’t have come back every week to see what happened next. Did I have some minor issues with the show? Sure, but so what? The more I think about those issues the more they dissipate. I now have something that I can mull over when I’m daydreaming. If a show or movie or game can make me do that, it’s succeeded in having a positive effect on me.
There are literally people bashing Chris for liking the show in this comment section. The dude is right that he has to defend himself for loving something these toxic idiots don't. Star Wars fandom is just too much.
Although the last 2 episodes really saved the show for me, there’s just too many weird writing decisions and wonky choreography/ways things are executed in the earlier episodes for me to consider the series great. Like why wouldn’t Vader kill Reva instead of leaving her and why did Vader act like fire between him and Obi Wan stopped him from holding obi wan with the force like he literally just did 2 minutes ago 😂 I still enjoyed it though!
Maybe because he had almost been burn to death? He’s still human..
@@marcelaboudreau106 nah wrong episode. I’m talking about when Vader force picked up and threw obi-wan into fire but then when obi-wan was saved Vader just stood there and watched him escape. The entire time he could’ve just force pulled Obi-wan back to him like he literally just had done a minute ago
Pretty sure Vader let him go that 1st time. Probably felt he beat him too easily + still had a tiny bit of Anakin left in him regarding Obi Wan until the finale fight when he goes fully dark and gets those sith eyes
@@petiteetoile8376 okay that definitely feels like a stretch tho considering they didn’t hint at any of that and you have to jump through hoops to rationalize it. It more screams that the writers didn’t know how to get Obi-Wan out of the situation and decided to just ignore it. If Vader let him go it seems very out of character considering he had been hunting him down relentlessly beforehand.
Because its garbage poeple, good scenes in isolation mean nothing when the Narrative flaws are so appalling. Objectively its a mess and you shills know it!!