I saw the Matt Damon interview on hot ones and he said the reason they don't make the same kind of movies anymore is because they can no longer rely on DVD sales. There was more freedom to make whatever kind of movie you wanted before because even if your movie bombed at the box office, at least you will still make a lot of money back on DVD sales. Now your movie has to do well instantly or it will not make any money, so there's less risk-taking and more franchises and sequels.
That doesn't make much sense to me, because they still have to produce and distribute the DVDs whether they sell or not. It's not like the publisher just sends out free discs to all the retail stores, and gets paid a small cut of the profits whenever a customer buys a copy at Walmart. The stores pre-buy a set amount of units based on how many they think they can sell, and whether any of move or not, or wind up in the bargain bin, Matt Damon has still made his money. This process results in a ton of physical waste, not to mention the cost of making and shipping countless units that may never sell to anyone. In digital distribution, there is no cost of physical distribution, no scarcity, and whoever wants to rent or buy the movie can do so, no matter where they are. It doesn't matter if the audience is spread out around the world, as long as there's some number of people interested in it, it can find success. Netflix gets a ton of flak, but honestly it is a blessing and has seen a ton of very niche projects get funding and views. They cater to cult audiences and retro nostalgia all the time, banking on it being a worthwhile asset to their overall service even though it wouldn't get ratings on network television or a movie theatre audience. They are willing to invest a reasonable budget into more modest projects getting off the ground, much more so than Hollywood studios ever do. Some of their animated series are some of the best shows I've ever seen in my life, and they would have never seen the light of day if they had to go the traditional method of being network TV children's series or theatrical movies.
@@0Fyrebrand0 It makes complete sense. I rented hundreds of movies I would never buy. I’d rent them and then buy them if I liked them. Video stores had deals like rent 10 movies for $10. That’s far better than cinemas where one movie cost over $15. You would take risks when renting movies. You’re not taking risks when you’re being asked to pay $30-$50 for 4k movie.
@@0Fyrebrand0 The downside to that is that you are always being charged "rent" to watch what you want. If you buy a DVD it's yours forever. If you decide to stop supporting a company, but you have your favorite movie from them on DVD, you don't have to buy anything new. In today's climate if you want to watch your favorite movie, but it's behind a paywall you essentially have to rent it from someone you don't want to monetarily support anymore when you shouldn't have to. Also, as all these companies switch to their own streaming platforms, you have to pay like $100 a month to have access to everything. They've basically recreated cable tv in a new form. That's not very innovative to me, and I'll bet you as the masses completely purge physical media and streaming competition gets more fierce, you're going to see more work appealing to lowest common denominator style audiences. Today you're watching Squid Game, tomorrow you'll be watching Madea Gets an Enema. There will eventually be a race to the bottom in order to remain profitable.
One thing I really appreciate about Spider-Man 3 is the ending; it's not a big sweeping shot of Spidey soaring over New York to Danny Elfman's epic score, but a quiet, beautifully shot and understated scene of forgiveness and reconnection between Peter and Mary Jane and the two slowly dancing together after all they went through in that film. And it's left to the viewer to decide if they managed to make up and eventually get married or not, and whether more villains appeared to threaten their happiness. For all the crap Sony put Sam Raimi through, it's amazing that he still ended the film on such a dignified note and ends it with the two characters the trilogy has followed since the very beginning.
I teared up like a baby when seeing Peter forgive Sandman, such a great scene. Also Harry is such a great character I loved seeing him come back to Pete and helping him toward the end of the movie.
Because of that, I appreciate the ending a lot more. Even as a kid, I never liked/loved the ending--not saying I ever hated it--but after reading this, I do like it being left to the imagination, which makes it more believable.
Spider-man 3's birth of Sandman scene is HAUNTINGLY beautiful. Sure, the experiment setup and the scientists not stopping it when he fell in the pit are ridiculous, but the actual reveal itself is heart wrenching.
High school teacher here, and big Star Wars fan. My students LOVE the prequel movies, and while we have funny debates and arguments about them, I love to see how much love they have for those films.
The thing I really like about these Spider-Man movies is that despite the CGI limitations at the time, you could tell they were really making the best use of what they had to work with. Despite CGI being considerably more advanced these days, it's often taken for granted and used for the purpose of visual eye candy to cover up a bad script, as opposed to supplementing a well written script.
The prequels were, in fact, my Star Wars. When I grew up and understood the internet more I finally realized how the majority of the world saw my favorite trilogy, and it did make me sad that they weren’t appreciated and loved the way that I loved them; but I kept loving them anyways without letting other’s opinions affect me. I am very glad they are getting more recognized tho. Movies really shape the person you become; that’s what I’ve always believed. It’s an intricate part of why I am the way I am. Thanks George Lucas :)
I completely understand this kind of thinking. I loved the movie "Hackers" as a kid. I thought I'd be rollerblading to work in a leather jacket when I grew up. That said, I know Hackers is a bad movie. I still love it and I still quote it, but I know it's not well-executed. The prequels are nostalgic for many people because they and their promotional tie-ins are deeply embedded in an entire generation's childhood experience. Taking a more objective view of childhood love, and being able to acknowledge its flaws, is an important part of growing up. We need to be able to recognize the difference between films that are great and films that we love. The prequels are deeply flawed films, and, even knowing that, we can still love them.
@@rhlhappy You.. How DARE you bring up a balanced view and distinguish opinion from fact...? Out with you! j/k I'm really digging your comment. Especially with the prequels-sequels raging fire, it's really hard for people to understand that they can like something, without it being a masterpiece. Or that you can call something _bad_, and it won't automatically make something else _good_. It's really sad, actually. I can see how people can like the prequels. Still I believe they're bad, though. And I absolutely despise Rise of Skywalker, but think the others are OK. I only wish more people were as balanced and centered as you are. The internet wouldn't be such an awful place.
@@artbargra My ego whispered when @nat cat said loved the prequels, what a garbage taste. Then another whisper came, I don't like this movie so should you. Listened to all the other thoughts that came through my head then analyzed which is which and finally came up on, good for nat cat. After all, to give your increasingly running out of time life to something then it had better be worth it.
@@artbargra being negative is sorta nothing new .Which is why I ignore top tier lists from people .Some might disagree from revenge of the sith .I found that movie okay to this day but if anything I felt like the franchise should have stopped back then but I assumed that they didn’t considering how big the franchise is
Spider-Man 3 has my favourite sequence in the whole trilogy: When Harry throws the Goblin bomb at Peter, and with zero slow-motion, nor any hesitation, dodged, *thwips* it with his web, and bombs the fuck out of his former best friend. It's visceral, character informed, and absolutely devastating to see Peter do this without any sort of regret or remorse. The fight leading up to it is great, but that shot is genuinely one of my favourites in any film I've seen.
Spiderman 3, 3 villain or venom in it really ruin it, cause of that they ruin new goblin moment, but for some reason sam raimi make it right, like it wouldnt happen if not in that way, but yeah i want to see what happen if we got more new goblin or venom not in movie but can be villain for next movie.
@@lovetheblue6659 you have it the wrong way around. Venom should have been dropped and more focus should have been given to sandman. I actually believe Sandman is one of the most underrated cbm villains of all time
Opinions can definitely change, sometimes you were you in a bad mood, sometimes you were expecting something more or different. Or maybe you think it’s needed to be great. Im glad Chris is talking about this as it will let more honest opinions will thrive. Great job Chris.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 I still dislike it. Have seen it quite a few times... for me it just isn,t that great. But who knpws maybe today I,ll see it under a different eye. Vertical limit I hated back than... but now it kinda grew on me.
HOnestly, its not so much that oppinions change, not with the preqeuls. More so an entirely different generation of peopel are the ones who grew up with it and are more vocal because younger people use the internet. IF you were to ask anyone who was 15 and up when the prequels came out what they thought of them today they would probably give you the same answer they did 20 plus years ago. I admit I grew up loving the prequels but it feels like almost indoctrinated to like them and millenials are the ones who use the internet the most. Just a theory.
Absolutely agree I love the music and the sheer absolute fear you can see and it’s done perfect them three actors were perfect in the film and that’s actually my favourite fight scene in all of the films I did like yoda and count duku lol baddass lol
@@Petersonmgee lol I have always liked them films but it seems to be more about fitting in with others and calling them terrible but the funny thing is when ever you go to a Comic-Con you see most people either dressed up as original characters or from them characters from the the second trilogy and you always see people a lot dressed up as darth maul such a cool character but it’s always called yet they love dressing up as them lol I don’t really know why people feel the need to really slag off films must get fun from it they do it with all films just like the new monsterverse and I still really enjoy them skull island got the worst of it I don’t know why because I thought it was really good and I watch them quite regularly especially as I have 3 kids and my youngest is my son who absolutely loves Star Wars and star trek and he is obsessed with Godzilla and kong both he actually got upset when we watched the remake of King Kong when he dies he won’t watch it again because of that lol
Hearing Dave Filoni explain the character motivations and George’s ideas made me like the prequels even more. Definitely not perfect but George did his story his way.
Filoni's explanation of "Duel of the Fates" is the most sincere and passionate thing I've heard anyone say about Star Wars. He has such a deep love of George Lucas' ideas, and it's incredibly heartwarming to hear him speak on all things Star Wars.
When I graduated from university, and started my first truly professional job, I was told by my office workers to watch Office Space. I watched it and did not get what all the hype was about. After about a year on the job, I re-watched the movie and found it to be one of the funniest and most insightful films, distilling perfectly all the inanity of white collar life. It took some exposure to actual office life to see just how relatable that film was.
Let me ask you something, when you come in on Monday and you're not feeling real well does anyone ever say to you, looks like someone has a case of the Mondays?
The Office was like that for me. Didn't like it at all when I was still in college. Watched it when I was working for a few years and that's when you get it.
This was a really cool and humbling episode. I love that you’re able to feel “real” and I personally consider this another notch in what makes you a great critic and can be relatable. Can’t WAIT for the “why don’t they make movies like ….”
The Spiderman 3 black suit reveal still gives me chills to this day. Or the moment where Peter hits MJ. Or the sandman scene. I haven’t felt the same emotions watching the MCU spiderman movies possibly because they are a lighter tone and you don’t feel the stakes. Hopefully no way home brings it back.
I feel the same, MCU spidey movies lack a bit of emotion and high stakes, something Raimis movies had quite a lot and TASM also had, specially in the second film.
Me 10 years ago: "Man, Twilight is awful!" Me today: "Hey, 'member how tolerable Twilight is compared to 50 Shades and 365 Days? Man, that was an embarrasing phase of our lives"
I'd say besides some of the dumb lore choices from the book (like sparkling in the sun) and the hype with "he stalks me, therefore that's romantic), the movie is rather harmless. The dynamic between the 2 main stars is also off, even if the actual actors went to have a relationship in real life.
The hate for Twilight was so unbelievably overblown also unlike 50 shades and 365 days Twilight is a vampire romance so it makes sense that aspects aren't healthy
It’s only natural for opinions to change over time, as we experience more art and in our own lives. Some of my favorite movies were ones I disliked at first. But I’m glad I went back and rewatched them so they could become great experiences I could revisit and enjoy for years to come. Most films today aren’t like that for me. They feel more disposable and lack a lot of the rewatchability of movies from even 20 years ago. Perhaps that is part of the point now, but there’s definitely something to be said about the appeal of older films. And I’m looking forward to your video discussing this in the future.
I like most films today tbh. Mabye cause I’m a modern person. Older movies(not all those films but for the most part) I can’t connect with them or enjoy them and I’ve tried to. That’s just my opinion Hopefully I don’t get negative comments from old cinephiles
I definitely had to grow and become more cultured before I could enjoy the fantastic film, "Nacho Libré." On first watch, my ignorant poop brain couldn't appreciate it as the fine piece of art that it truly is.
@@coolguitarperson5942 why do I need to shut up? That’s sounds negative. None of what wrong it it’s my viewpoint nor was anything negative what I said. I was never mean at all. I just said an opinion. Im a nice dude man.
Something else I love about the phantom menace is Anakin's mom. She was a really minor character and the acting wasn't even that great but I just love how simple her relationship with Anakin is. It's such a complex story but that one thing ties it all together.
I agree. One of the things that always stuck out to me that not necessarily justified, but added to Anakin's transition to Darth Vader was the death of his mother because they were so close.
And they’ll probably be hating on whatever new batch of films, shows and other content that’ll be out by that point in time. It’s become a cycle for the Star Wars fandom where something is hated when it’s still recent and new but years later it gets more appreciated by the people that grew up with said film, show or other piece of media/content.
There are a few legitimate defenses for the sequel trilogy: better acting, better direction/cinematography, WAY better special effects. Cons: everything else
@@bencarlson4300 I dunno, I think it had good characters, too. Kylo Renn is pretty iconic. Finn didn't get too fleshed out but he was a good character. And I never agreed with the hate for Rey, I thought she was a good fun protagonist. The action sequences are also better imo. I honestly can't think of anything the prequels did better than the sequels.
I severely doubt anyone will remember these movies in 20 years. Kids these days love their Marvel way more than Star Wars anyway. This was not a SW generation.
You're not alone on 'Spider-Man 3', Chris. Judging by the memes, people have gone to appreciate its camp. I also understand what you mean that it's not being held back by a cinematic universe. Most superhero movies today need to adopt a similar style for continuity's (or brand) sake but the style for the Raimi films absolutely serves Spider-Man and his foes. I don't think cinematic universes should be a restraint; it sure weren't in the early days of the MCU; but that's another matter entirely. I personally still don't like 'Spider-Man 3' but I do understand where its fans are coming from.
Spider-Man 3 has it’s moments. I actually like the Eddie Brock in the film, that he is this complete mirror image of Peter and how Peter could have ended up without the moral code. Venom in the comics was never that thematically interesting (just ”cooler”). I also never understood why people got upset over bully Maguire - that is exactly how a dork like Peter would imagine being cool was like. The cringe is intentional. We don’t want Peter to act that way, or maybe see a bit of ourselfs in that kind of behavior.
It’s much better than the TASM movies and the 2018 Venom movie, I haven’t seen the second Venom movie yet, I don’t really plan to, the first one was a big disappointment for me, only Tom Hardy was good, everything else was a mess.
ya i used to hate it (mainly cuz i was a huge Venom fan from the 90s) i learned to appreciate that ppl who didnt know of the character (the way i selfishly wanted) and enjoyed Venom in it. hell i grew to like the dance scene mostly cuz memes made me like it after many years (i used to cringe at it when it first came out). I like how our tastes can change with different perspectives and not of my own selfishness.
I still believe that Equilibrium has one of the best scenes in film history. If you’ve watched it you know what I’m talking about. It’s the moment the main character listens to music for the first time and weeps because of how beautiful it is to him. There are other emotions behind that scene as well but it is still something that nearly all of us can relate to. A piece of music that moved us to the verge of tears or full blown blubbering. I take that feeling and apply it to his situation of simply hearing MUSIC for the first time let alone a favorite song. I love that scene and I wished more did too.
Well said, I had tears in my eyes too when I saw the scene for the first time. I am glad the perception about the movie has shifted a lot since the time it released.
Yep, That scene gave me goosebumps and teared me up. Equilibrium is definitely in my top 20 movies of all time. It's so unique and has such a great message.
The thing I've come to realise about ALL of the Spider-Man movies is that even when the writing is a little shoddy, they still have more heart and soul than pretty much any other superhero movie, and that's why I love every single one of them. The Raimi trilogy is corny as f**k if you watch it today, but it still manages to capture the essence of the "superhero fantasy" so effortlessly, and with such a sort of simplistic purity, that it's impossible not to love it - it's not just a case of rose-tinted glasses
There is a scene in the 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers where Donald Sutherland tells Brooke Adams “if you’re not crazy do that thing with your eyes” and Brooke does this weird talent where she shakes her eyes and the characters laugh. Scenes like that don’t happen in movies anymore and you can’t write that. Brooke had to have brought up the fact she can do this weird thing with her eyes and they wrote it in. It’s such a genuine moment I recommend watching out for it next time you watch the movie. There’s also a scene in the original Nightmare on Elm Street where Nancy is running up the stairs and her feet start to stick to the stairs with a glue like mixture. It’s such an amazing practical effect for like less than 10 seconds of footage. Made me think about how CGI would totally ruin the integrity of that small scene if it were done today. Also, I’m now one of those, “back in my day” people now
The "crazy eyes" scene in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and the scene where Nancy's feet go through the stairs have to be among my favorite parts of those respective films.
@@MsNotzi There is something about practical effects like that stair scene that inspire wonder in me. How was it done? How much time, money, resources did it take? Was it magically done in one take or did it take a whole day or more? How many times did she have to wash her feet to reshoot it? I really love how it’s all a reference to how you can’t get away in your dreams, almost running in place or in slow motion. Such a great visual. If it were done in CGI the glue would be dripping down the steps perfectly while the practical effect not only looks better, but it’s the real thing, random and imperfect. She’s really running up these stairs and sticking to them. I imagine you get such better performances out of actors when they’re really doing it. Obviously it’s more dangerous, but so much more memorable in return.
@@tariqthomas9090 I feel it’s the main reason. TCW is what got me into Star Wars & is the main reason for the Prequels been my favourite along with ROTS
yeah also really come around for the sheer amount or practical sets and effects they used in phantom menace, so much awesome effort when into making it
The moment in SM3 that got me was Peter asking Harry for help, and Harry was just done. No anger, no resentment anymore. Just done. It was heartbreaking to watch these two best friends become enemies. It made Harry’s arrival and subsequent sacrifice all the more satisfying and tragic (respectively).
I agree, with one small change. I think that Studio Oversight is what is needed. No artist can be at their best without a good editor who can help point out the rough spots that the artist isn’t seeing (ie prequalified trilogy).
no art should be „interfered“ by a third party. obviously there is a potent lack of art introspection from chris’ very hollywood-centric audience here. The best, most creative, risk taking films come from filmmakers who were able to bring their unfiltered vision to the screen. Why would you want anything else? If I go to see Dalis painting in a museum, I want to see HIS painting. Same for filmmakers. It‘s absolutely the same. Only that theres more money involved.
i dont get the studio interference argument when it comes to the prequels because it was produced by Lucas himself. He was the studio. And no studio knows Star Wars like Lucas does. So what exactly would the studio notes be like?
I wouldn’t say the CGI of that scene is ground breaking or ahead of it’s time, is the execution of the scene, it was well thought out not scientifically but cinematically. It is to this day on of the best sci-fi scenes also one of the best villain scenes as well.
Tom Holland's Spiderman is horrible IMO. I would argue that we haven't had a really good Spiderman, but Tobey was the closest, and his movies stand head and shoulders above the rest.
Jake Lloyd deserves an apology for all the crap he’s endured since playing young Anakin and for that same fanbase that once despised the prequels to now look back on those same films after the sequels and think, “The prequels aren’t that bad.” All that nonsense was unnecessary and he did what George Lucas expected him to do. I still enjoyed Episode 1 at first because it gave a bigger explanation to what the Force is with the Midichlorians and people missed the mystique of the Force which, in my opinion, is a step back. I was hoping the sequels would incorporate the Whills to paint the full picture of the Force but the mystique was brought back for nostalgic reasons and despite that, it still didn’t work. The sequels are a wasted opportunity to tell a full story of the Force.
Jake Lloyd was garbage as are many a child actor - it’s of course not his fault as blame lies on parents, casting and director. Quality child actors are few and far between but they are thankfully often at the minimum ok-ish (not so in the prequels). If you kid has dreams of becoming a singer and can’t tell an A from a G perhaps you as the parent should not encourage that particular pursuit. The prequels suck and it’s all G. Lucases fault (even the originals would have been a disaster without mainly his ex wife and other people around him that influenced him for the better). What the prequels do that the sequels do not however is build upon the universe in a way that feel right. The lore and all that is solid in the prequels but the new movies just butcher them. Everything new with Star Wars, Star Trek, HeMan etc etc etc is not cannon and should be disregarded completely - and I can not say that of the SW prequels so I guess they have that going for them.
@@Dakhor it’s a shame George Lucas’s ex-wife is not fully acknowledged by the public for not working on Star Wars but I guess that recent article about her not liking the sequel movies helped out kinda
the sequels are wasted to tell the whole story because they didn't have a story to begin with...episodes 1 to 6 already told the whole story; the story of Anakin's rise and fall to later redemption. the sequels do not matter.
The biggest 180 I ever had on a film was Unbreakable. Saw it first when I was 11 and thought it was the boringest film ever made. Saw it again at 20 in 2010, and to this day it's still my favorite film of all time.
The Prequels lacked the execution, but the ambition and grand vision for the story and world building were quite incredible. All the Star Wars movies, good or bad, were like going to the World's Fair. It was an event, you were going to see the future of epic blockbuster cinema unlike anything you'd seen that year, and it felt larger than life. Now Star Wars feels like just another big budget movie that leans on nostalgia and lacks the vision, world-building, ambition, and risk-taking that made Star Wars revolutionary. I think we just miss those qualities, making us appreciate the Prequels for them now much more than we did before, even if they were not great movies.
I would like to make the argument that the last jedi took more risks than maybe any Star Wars movie and yet half the fanbase got pissed about it so I think all of this stuff is completely subjective
@@alexm4163 The Last Jedi borrows heavily from a certain other movie, which is why it's so awkward. It's wasn't some original risky vision. It was more like taking a bunch of random elements and throwing them in a blender. That's not the work of some cinema auteur.
Lacking execution is a very misleading way of saying it. There is an absolutely stupid amount of incredible execution in those movies. There is issues with the dialogue, acting and it is a weird tonal issue in having a movie that includes the character Jar Jar Binks and the podrace having a main conflict around a trade blockade. But those movies are incredibly impressive filmmaking wise.
The prequel films were just bad films. Arguably way worse than whatever Disney was trying to do. The prequels played it safe and very much relying on fans nostalgia by giving them a story that really didn't need to be told. Rather than take a leap and tell an all new story, Lucas played it safe by giving us a bad origin story for Darth Vader.
Thank you! Pacino's cry at the end of Godfather 3 was my first (and for a while only) "cry my eyes out" moment watching a movie. I was around 21-22 and something broke inside me during the scene. I was crying so bad and I had to get up and go to my bed a few meters behind and burry my face to my pillow. My friends and I were really shocked at that reaction. Since that day, I somehow slowly turned into a cry-baby while I watch movies, now I'm even getting a little teary on those obligatory emotional beats at the end of slapstick/absurd comedies but at the time I thought no movie would really make me truly cry. But it suddenly happened that day, in that scene. I'm glad someone that I know I can trust acknowledged that it was a powerful scene. Because all those years, everyone (including critics I've trusted, friends I have similar tastes) kept saying that movie is garbage and I felt weird about myself because it was the first movie that hit me so hard. Now I can let my self-conscious or doubtful feelings go, thanks to Chris.
Ah Chris, spoken like a true artist. I love that you respect the art of film in its entirety, cinematography, vision, acting, direction, writing, etc. So unlike many critics who judge based on special effects and plot alone. Thank you for not being afraid to be yourself, because it inspires us all to be ourselves with no shame.
@@kevinkilbane2007 Then kindly leave. Find some random UA-camr who hasn't shot a single footage in their life and trash talk about other's work. Chris has clearly stated that it doesn't feel right to talk shit about movies anymore cause as a creator himself he understands the challenges one has to face.
As you should. I hate it when critics just fixate on one part of the film and that’s how they judge it. A movie is a mashup of a bunch of different art forms all coming together, so just judging a film on just the story or just the effects or just the acting doesn’t do it justice in my book. Also I think Chris understands how fucking hard it is to make a good movie! So many critics on the internet make themselves seem so high and mighty like making a good movie is as simple as making a PP&J. I think once you realize it isn’t so easy you start to judge films more fairly.
@@kickass2117 - Actually, Chris material is horrendous. I've watched it all. He's a great critic, and should continue this path as it was. Of course he should direct and do what he's passionate about, but let's be real: 1- He SUCKS as a director. 2- This forced positivity is not gonna last.
Sure, the Prequels have flaws. But man, they are unique. The Pod Race alone was so amazing as a Kid. And it still holds up very well. The Foundation of the Prequels is just amazing in general. Thats one big reason why Clone Wars is so popular.
When I saw the prequels as an adult at 25 the first being of course the Phantom Menace back in 99 sure it wasn't like the original trilogy of films but boy was it different and challenging at the same time. I'm so glade that George had the balls to incorporate the very idea of starting Anakin Skywalker out at 9 instead of some already fully trained Jedi for the simple fact that it showed a fragile boy taken from his mother and his usual safety net and broke him into a very slow but eventually powerful transition into one of the most terrifying film screen scfi monsters of all time. That takes tremendous guts and setting an ego aside in doing something of that nature vs following what fanboys would of wanted him to do or a mega corporation like Disney would want under a committee driven hell hole!
The prequels at least told a cohesive story from beginning to end. Like Chris I was on board with the sequels but after TROS, the whole thing just felt like being jerked around by a million different visions for what they thought it should be.
The most recent time a film changed for me was when I watched Arrival again, but not in this way bad-good, good-bad. I really enjoyed it the first time I watched it, like a lot, Denis is a master. But watching it again recently I actually cried. Knowing everything going in, the script is do damn tight and nothing is wasted. The themes of communication and choice are executed beautifully, it made me emotional but it also made me ask myself “Would I do the same in that position?”. It’s the best alien “invasion” film ever made in my opinion, and also such a good relationship drama. Please watch It if you haven’t, and if you’ve only seen it once, watch it again.
Alien invasion film, time travel film, love story, and above all a story about how communication (or lack thereof) can be the most powerful tool available. I love Villeneuve and this is my favorite of his. Nothing else out there like it.
I think that also happens with most of serious sci-fi. I have seen lots of cases with BR 2049, Ad Astra, Gravity and High Life. But it's great you changed your opinion on Arrival, I love that film so much. Also check the other flimes Denis Villenueve had made
As someone who really appreciates the aesthetic side of movies as a visual medium, I was blown away by the Phantom Menace. I believe it was a defining moment in consolidating the aesthetics of Star Wars: the landscapes and architecture of Naboo and Coruscant, Padmé's wardrobe, the new ships, the pod racing, even the sounds of the pods, it all felt amazing. I think it was hindered by carrying on it's shoulders the expectations of a whole generation of fans, who were waiting over 20 years for new Star Wars movies. And I believe, like you mentioned, that a new generation, who watches the whole saga, starting from the prequels, and with the added TV shows and spin offs, will have a very different view of how the movies rank, compared to each other.
I would LOVE to see a video about why films aren't made the same way anymore, and it would be great if it was an actual exploration of the evolution of the medium instead of just complaining about corporatism and overuse of CG (valid complaints and concerns to an extent, but reductive when examining the art form as a whole). As an aspiring filmmaker myself, I have this conversation a lot with other local filmmakers of all ages and it tends to go nowhere. It would be really nice to see a sincere examination of the current methodology for film production across the entire spectrum and see how filmmakers can move forward from where the medium is currently at.
I was so happy to hear Chris mention Speed Racer that I screamed! I love that movie so much. It's been so great to hear positive film talk because I feel like negative film talk is way too normalized on the internet. And while it is valid to hate on things, there's a point where it becomes toxic when it's most of what people do when talking about movies. So, to hear someone be positive about film talk, even if the positives are sparse in a movie full of mess, has been really refreshing and has made me remember why I love this artform so much.
To be fair, Roger Ebert has changed his mind on certain films from time to time, so if the guy who many consider to be the greatest critic of all-time was willing to change his mind on certain things, then surely more can come forward on this.
George Lucas has a unique position in US film history. He essentially changed Hollywood from without, causing Hollywood to emulate him and incorporate his technology and his geeky obsessions into the mainstream, and then Lucas kind of grew and became a competitor, and then Hollywood kind of cannibalized him. The prequels aren't good movies, not from where I stand, but they do tell a more coherent narrative than the sequels, or (dare I say it) even the original trilogy. Lucas has said so many times that he wants to go back to making smaller and more intimate narratives and I wish he would. He's a much more talented filmmaker than people acknowledge (even if his dialogue needs to be rewritten). If Episode I weren't so juvenile at times, it would potentially be the best SW film, certainly the best since '80. I think at the time, though, Lucas was so preoccupied with CGI that he didn't hone in on the tone and pacing as much as he should have in retrospect. With Episode III, you can tell that he did do that.
Honestly, I think Episode 2 is my favourite. A totally singular vision, a really truly *escapist* work, that transports you to a whole new world with such an intoxicating sensory overload of CGI and green screen, the dizzying homage to space operas, westerns, political thrillers, war movies and so on. I love all the dorky, wooden aspects to it, because it’s just sentimental, powerful fluffy movie history, for families especially. I bonded over Star Wars over and over with my family and every friend I met in some way, mostly through a nostalgia for the Prequels. And yeh, the soundtrack across the whole board is perfect.
Apparently he's writing for that Andor series now, so maybe he'll get another shot at something like that. The dome shot stuff like the mandalorian definitely have that smaller and more intimate feel so I'm interested to see how his will turn out.
Episode I feels very long, and sometimes dry. I think had the pacing been tightened up a bit up front and especially in the middle section, it would be so much more watchable.
Equilibrium is one of the best sci-fi action movies I have ever seen, it has been a favorite of mine ever since it came out. It is inspired by other great movies like The Matrix as the creators admitted themselves but that takes nothing away from its own merits.
Yeah it's one of my top 5 favorite movies. I think it really impacted me since it came out when I was an angsty teenager. We had just read 1984 and Fahrenheit 451. It just hit home so well. I rewatched it recently and it still brought tears to my eyes at some moments.
Definitely looking forward to "Why don't they make movies like that anymore" Chris. For the record, I've always held a higher opinion of The Phantom Menace than most. It does have its flaws, but it is actually the closest in tone to A New Hope (yes, even closer than The Force Awakens, which doesn't have as much in common with A New Hope as many people seem to think it does). And while Empire Strikes Back is the best film in the franchise, A New Hope was the first, and set the tone for all that followed.
Oh my god. Yes. Thank you. I still don't understand why people think The Force Awakens is a carbon copy of ANH. Phantom Menace is the best prequel because it feels like Star Wars and it feels like a FILM. The weird racial stereotypes though.... Yeah understand if that ruins it all for someone.
Narratively The Force Awakens is an amalgam of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes back. That’s why people say it’s similar because it follows the same beats. Regardless of tone which I do agree feels more like the original trilogy than any of the prequels, but that’s my opinion and anyone is entitled to theirs. But on the case of The Phantom Menace, I’ve always felt it is the best of the prequel trilogy. It’s the most like a Star Wars out of the three. However I do enjoy the lore that comes out of the prequel trilogy, it makes it feel like a world more than just a series of movies.
Phantom Menace feels nothing like A New Hope. A new hope has an incredible sense of pace and energy to. It always feels like the plot is always moving forward. Phantom Menace starts with I guess a somewhat fun escape scene, but also the movie completely comes to a halt during the tattooine and anakin scenes.
@@formerfilmstudent8349 I’ve always felt the pacing to be agonizing in A New Hope to be honest. I get what you mean with Phantom Menace though. It’s a stop and start kind of ride. Feels like riding in a car with someone who doesn’t know how to drive a stick shift. But I think it has the most heart out of the prequel trilogy which is why I hold it the highest out of the three.
What you say about the prequels is absolutely correct as someone who was a kid when these films came out you cant tell me they are not great films obviously im older now and i can recognise their faults but like you said that was our version of the original trilogy so nostalgia will always win.
My big one is also Phantom Menace. It took an interview with Dave Filoni and the new trilogy for me to go back and give it another shot. Honestly I love the world building he did with it. All the new unique things rather than just reusing assets is really impressive and I really like most of them.
If everything Dave Filoni said was brought to the front in that film it would have been incredible...but the kids wouldn't have liked the weight of it.
So glad you mentioned Spidey 3. I’ve had a very similar change of heart about that movie. The great moments are truly great and I think the soundtrack elevates that film so much.
Spiderman 3's Sandman is my favorite villain of that trilogy. Hes the only one that feels like a human and maintains that through the story. He doesn't have a weird split personality or psychosis. And his conversation at the end with Peter is really well acted.
@@con_doorman That is one of those very rare scenes where not one line of dialogue is spoken but the impact of the scene comes through hard. I'm not kidding when I say that is a prime example of how a dialogue-less scene can be powerful.
I think 3 would have been just as good as 1 and 2 if venom wasn't in it. Peter wanting revenge on sandman for killing uncle ben and harry wanting revenge on peter for killing his dad are two plot points that work REALLY well together. It could have been a great story if you cut out all the eddie brock rivalry and black spidey suit stuff.
As a kid who grew up with the prequel trilogy, it's been interesting watching the opinions of people who grew up with the originals change with time. When I first caught a glimpse of people's opinions online about the prequels, I remember being confused and a bit sad that movies I thought were pretty good were getting dragged through the mud. Now, a lot of those same people are showing more appreciation for those movies and it's strange, because to me, they've always been good. Who knows, maybe in 20 years I'll have my thoughts on the sequels changed by the next generation.
I enjoy both the prequels and originals, but my biggest issue is trying to like them as six films rather than two separate trilogies. Whenever I try watching A New Hope right after Revenge of the Sith, it just doesn't work for me. For one thing, you're having to have the force and jedi reexplained to you in the 4th film of a saga. I just prefer to watch the originals without thinking about the prequels, just as I prefer to watch the prequels without thinking about the originals. A lot of it comes down to difference in technology (not that one technology is superior to the other--they're just too different to connect properly). It's like the saga switches mediums halfway through: like if a radio drama was a sequel to a silent movie
I remember at least the first prequel movie being very popular and liked when it came out. But then everyone hated it once the internet became more mainstream.
no they won't the only reason the prequels are looked at differently is because of how terrible and pretty much worse the sequels are. The sequels will never be beloved as the ot is or as appreciated as the prequels are becoming lately.
I especially love the point Chris mentioned that George Lucas actually got to make the films he wanted...I'd much rather watch that, than some cookie-cutter, studio conveyor belt film where the studio is telling the creatives (directors) how their films should be like. Not to mention these days the director is always constrained by needing to make the film somehow tie into an additional aspect of some "shared universe"...I'd rather watch a director's actual vision for the film.
I wouldn't hold my breath on the Sequels getting re-valuated. They have serious issues and brain-fart moments that even the Prequels lacked. Their memes kinda suck too, I tried to get into them, but they were just lame and preachy. At best I can see The Last Jedi getting a cult following in the same way Alien: Resurrection got, of people liking it in a "fascinating guilty pleasure" sort of way, but Episode 9 is an absolute mess and as the years go by more and more people are coming around to the fact The Force Awakens was a factory movie that people were TOO damn quick to praise. Like, one of the 1000 Movies You Have To See Before You Die? No, piss off. A New Hope already exists, and it leads to two more good movies, TFA is followed up by despair. Save that spot for films more deserving like The Fall, Moon or even Dredd.
Spider-Man 3 part really surprised me, in how Chris sincerely says that there's fantastic parts in it. I always loved Spider-Man 3. I think it's a emotionally powerful film. Christopher Young's score is powerful. Harry's death is just powerful...
I agree people underrated Harry's arch but it was masterful because we grew up with him from the beginning and most movies may have just made him a villain to be killed off before becoming good again and seeing his ways but at the core this was Peter's best friend and we all felt that.
Yessssss! I have always been a HUGE Speed Racer fan. I grew up watching the Speed Racer anime on tv growing up. And when I saw the movie I was immediately in love with it. I showed my gf at the time, and was so giddy and she said that it was the worst movie she had ever seen. And 99% of the world agreed. But, I have always stayed a loyal fan! Glad you enjoyed it more now :)
My big one that I've changed on is Man of Steel. I don't know if I was just in a bad mood or what when I saw that movie, but I came out of the theater absolutely despising that movie and held to it for years. After years of hearing others sing its praises and actually enjoying the 3 hour edition of Batman v Superman, I went back and re-watched it and actually really like it.
Thank you for making this Chris. I see you appreciate certain aspects in movies more than you used to as you're getting more involved in the process of filmmaking
The problem with a lot of critic reviews is they're usually on a deadline, meaning they can't digest a movie for that long and they're forced to go with their gut instinct. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but like you said, people can change their minds... for better or worse.
I never realized that. I've seen so many reviews where I'm like "what? What the fuck are you talking about? Where did that come from?", but never once did I think that their reviews were on a deadline. I just always assumed the reviews came AFTER they watched the movie again.
I'd say the best thing that can be said about the prequels is they can be fixed with a lot of tweeking and the worst about sequels is the best way to fix it is do away with the entire structure and start over from scratch.
If being on the internet for the past decade has taught me anything it's that changing your opinion on virtually anything - especially on movies/shows - is generally considered a sign of weakness. In fact many tend to argue that the more radical you are in expressing your thoughts/opinions on stuff online the more clout you get.
I grew up adoring the Sam Rami Spider-Man trilogy and the Star Wars prequels. Spider-Man 3 and The Attack of the Clones were two of my favorite movies period. As I get older, the flaws become more and more apparent, though those movies will always be special to me. And yes, while a lot of that is nostalgia, I genuinely find the movies to be extremely enjoyable, and feel like they get way too much hate. Thanks for the video Chris, I like the direction that your channel is heading :)
The prequels were definitely my star wars. I was obsessed with the movies, the toys, the merchandise, all of it. The prequels, the raimi spider man trilogy, and the michael bay transformers were basically my childhood.
You put it very well, I'm exactly the same case! They were the best thing ever! Prequels stunned me with the space adventure and lightsabers, and Raimi spiderman was the first super hero movie I've ever watched thst got me into Marvel. The live action transformers was also the coolest thing ever, and that shaped my love for the transformers, but only the live action one not the cartoons. On that same note, because I grew up with Raimi spiderman I still do not like the new spiderman. Toby's spiderman is so memorable I still feel weird that we went from college part time photographer to a lost highschool kid that needs a father's guidance
For me, the movie that I had a major shift on, was V for Vendetta. That actually kind of spurred me to try out films that I normally wouldn't have seen, or got a lot of flak from the audience/critics. I remember going to see it in the theaters when it first released, and I was REALLY still frustrated with the Wachowskis about the Matrix 2&3. I remember being at a matinee of V, by myself, and just being SO annoyed with how talky it was. It just felt like sooo much monologuing and pretentiousness, that I audibly growled to myself in frustration But then, fast forward like a decade later, and I'm randomly thinking of scenes from V, and thinking to myself "Yeah, that was a good scene." I'd find myself pulling them up on YT to watch and enjoy. And it was scene after scene. And at one point I just kind of sat there and asked myself "Wait...DO I actually hate this film? Because I seem to enjoy a LOT of the scenes....huh." So I rewatched it in full, and REALLY enjoyed it. Like I genuinely feel I just had the wrong mindset when I first saw it. I brought in way too much baggage from the previous films by the same team, and also I think just age, time, and life has altered my perspective in a lot of ways, that made me appreciate the film a lot more than on first viewing.
The same thing happened to me for Children of Men.... Saw it when I was a young teenager and walked out before it ended 😅.... Now I think it's a masterpiece!
@@davyboy9397 I really enjoyed Children of Men, so much so that I actually bought that one on DVD, which is just not something I do very often. But yeah I can appreciate how it might not sit well for a lot of people. And, considering how badly it did upon release, you weren't alone in your dislike of it xD
I personally always saw the genius of the film. But I do remember when watching the trailers thinking it looked dumb as fuck and was ripping off the Matrix. Then i watched it and it blew me away. It's also became slightly prophetic in our modern era as the major forces of the world so subtlety embraces a little fascism and we have a virus pillaging the world.
I like to compare Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Spiderman 3 a lot because they have a lot of similarities. The best scenes in both movies are incredible; however, some of the casting and decisions made for both movies are questionable. Unfortunately the bad scenes ruin the movie for most people, but you can't help and appreciate the good scenes.
@Nooneinparticular987 No offense, but many people would disagree with you though. A lot people especially did not like how Luke was portrayed in this film. Other criticisms include the comedy, and some of the characters like Holdo.
Your reasons for liking the prequel trilogy kinda also sum up why I love The Last Jedi. Yes, there’s a lot of dumb stuff in it, but it just feels so distinct and auteur-driven compared to most other blockbusters that I hold it in such high regard.
While I don't really like the sequels as a whole, I will say that Last Jedi is probably the best one of them. It does have a flawed plot structure, some very questionable story choices and way too much slapstick, but it's just visually so much more stunning than the others and you can feel the vision behind it. And as much as people hate the depiction of Luke (and I agree that the reason for him being that way was stupid), Mark Hamill just did such a perfect job acting it out. 7 and 9 are just so bland and soulless in comparison.
Freakin' agree. It's the only of the Star Wars Disney movies that i rewatch constantly. I hope in the near future doesn't deserve that hate from the fans
Recently for me i’ve changed my opinion tremendously on Ad Astra, it’s a beautiful movie about a man masking his pain in not knowing his father but also trying to live up to what his father was. Undeserved hate.
i agree with you, but to be honest he was such an improvement over the version in the anime that it didnt even bother me, but if you haven't seen the original than yeah hes just insufferable
@@commandershepard485 I took him as the spastic character that kept young kids entertained. The problem is that his scenes felt so geared toward kids in all the worst ways that it made me question who the movie was really aimed at.
I really love the Phantom Menace. I think some of the theatricality and silliness of the prequels was originally in the series in some way. The prequels have enhanced the sense of scale and diversity of this fantastic world. The emphasis on politics brought history closer to reality and made conflicts stronger and deeper. Little Anakin from "The Phantom Menace" never seemed to me badly played. Maybe it's nostalgia, because for the first time I watched the movie around Anakin's age. It was very easy for me to empathize with him. Even if Jar Jar seems annoying to someone, he is still a memorable character with his unique charisma.
Chris my man, I need to put this Amazon prime film in your radar. “Sardar Udham [Singh]” tells the true story of a Sikh freedom fighter and the massacre that took place in Punjab during a time of British rule. This film deserves more attention from western audiences. The film isn’t being pushed for Oscar consideration because of how it negatively depicts the British. I’d love to hear your thoughts on one of the best films of the year, but ultimately I just hope u watch it. Thank you.
Don't bother, man. He doesn't care about bollywood. It is up to your film industry to choose a good film for oscars. There is nothing he can do about it
Right off the rip I remember you reviewed Amazing Spiderman 2 twice because you got over a cold and felt "forgiving" so gave it a good review. Then went back and tore it up.
So glad to hear your opinion on SM3. Although I always loved it, I see the flaws that people mention but honestly I'd rather have a movie that aims for the stars and land flat in some areas than a movie that follow the same goddamn formula that every other movie. I also agree with your thoughts on Equlibrium. I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was really good. But I can see how someone would dislike it for being similar to The Matrix.
The Star Wars prequels for all their flaws do the one thing that the sequels could not(though Last Jedi tried at least), the prequels expanded and enriched the universe and lore of Star Wars.
"the prequels expanded and enriched the universe and lore of Star Wars" - i couldn't disagree more (and wish i could go back in time and stop myself from ever watching them OR the sequels)....the Force and the Jedi used to be wonderous mysterious and mystical when i was a kid in the 80s (those monologues of Obiwan and Yoda explaining the Force to Luke are just SO good!)....then i found out in Phantom Menace having the Force is a f^cking medical condition. SO lame. Sometimes less is more.
Unfortunately expanding and enriching does not make a movie good. And people will still say the prequels are better movies than the sequels. When in reality, the prequels are only better than one of the sequels IMO. All my friends prefer the prequels but when I ask why they say 3 things: 1. It has a single continuous plot through all 3 films 2. Good for the lore of Star Wars 3. They quote the memes Of these 3 points, only the first one really matters, and though I agree it’s true, I personally think that the story is not good in the prequels, so who cares that it’s continuous. Just my take though, wbu?
I believe the prequels are really good. (Excluding attack of the clones.) They each did their part, and did their part well. I would like to address some issues about Phantom. The whole medaclorian thing (if I spelled that right.) People really misunderstand that scene, and I mean REALLY misunderstand. Jinn was talking about how these things called medaclorians dwell within all living things, he also has a device to detect the medaclorians that are in anakins blood. Ghost hunters use devices to detect if there is a presence in the area. It's still that spiritual thing everyone fell head over heels for from the original trilogy. Technology in star wars is really high tech, so having a device that can detect if you have a big amount of the force makes sense. Why isn't it in the og trilogy, since that takes place after the prequels? Probably because there isn't anymore jedi running the show. Or, more realistically, George didn't think he'd get to the point of fame where he made a prequel trilogy, so he had more ideas for that. I have noticed that people who grew up with star wars of their generation typically favorite that generation. (I.e. Growing up in the 70s? You most likely love the og trilogy over the new stuff. Or growing up in the late 90s to early 2000s means you probably enjoyed the prequel trilogy.) I am guilty of this as well, considering I was born in the late 90s. The prequel trilogy have soul, the sequel trilogy do not. The sequel trilogy feels more like a reboot than a continuation of the previous movies. The story for the prequel trilogy (minus attack of the clones) is actually good. Very underrated. Anakin acting like a brat? He has no dad, and the closest thing he had was Qui gon who died in the first one. (Not Obi wan since they consider each other as brothers, i.e. revenge of the sith.) I will admit, the "love" relationship in the prequel trilogy is very cringey and annoying to deal with. So if that is the reason why people don't like them, I definitely get that. Lastly, these are movies. They are made for fun and for the viewers. If you don't like one or some of them, that's fine, there are other areas to enjoy star wars. (Clone wars, games, books, etc.) If someone likes something you don't, it's probably because they have their own opinion.
@@RP_Williams midichlorians are not the force. People often conflate the two. It's basically just an explanation for why living beings can use the force and droids cannot. It also makes sense as to why Darth Vader's force potential was limited due to his wounds and the suit. He's still immensely powerful though. Also explains why someone like Greivous who only has a few organs left of himself cannot use the force either.
@@aarongutierrez7705 We're talking about an entire franchise here. Sure individual movies can be enjoyable without tying into a wider plot, but the point of a sequel is to further explore the established world and its story. And I'd argue the prequels have good stories burried underneath the bad dialogue and clunky storytelling whereas the sequels only mask their unoriginality with good acting and cinematography. Like, Episode 8 is probably the best looking Star Wars film with some really great acting (even though I personally dislike the amount of slapstick humor), but the plot is in my opinion as clunky as episode 2 if not more. And don't even get me started on the mess that was the rise of skywalker. Also "Good for the lore of Star Wars" is absolutely important, world building is a major aspect of story telling, especially in sci-fi and fantasy settings where the whole appeal is to explore a different world.
I've seen prequels at young age, LOVED them and always defended them for 20 years. Glad you changed your opinion. Other movies in the video are fun too, welcome to real movie appreciation club)
I remember watching Spider-Man 3 in the theater and it’s one of my favorite experiences. My dad bursted out laughing at the whole dancing/walking sequence with emo maguire. While it’s a letdown in some aspects from the masterpiece that is Spider-Man 2, it’s a damn enjoyable movie and a good ending for the trilogy imo!
Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith are my two favorite Star Wars movies. I love the ending to Episode 1. The very final scene with Anakin looking at Padme and the score is beautiful.
I've softened on the Prequels as well. The originals will always be my favorite, and I have my issues with the new trilogy but I still love 2 of them, the prequels are simply bad movies. But I love them. They are Star Wars. What made me change my mind about them wasn't The Rise Of Skywalker (a film which I have never seen nor do I ever intend to see) but Solo. Never before had a star wars movie felt so lifeless, unoriginal, and boring. Colorless. Bland. This movie made me love the prequels. Because despite the prequel's many flaws, at least they were a vision, a bright, colorful vision.
I actually think Solo was the best of all the Disney Star Wars films (besides The Force Awakens)....minus the dim/dark colours and lighting, the stupid 12 parsec thing, and Han speaking Wookie, it was a competent 'heist film'. I wouldn't call it a good film, but it's better than what everyone makes it out to be....at least i actually felt something about the characters (unlike the totally forgettable and flat characters in Rogue One). That said, i'd just as soon that Disney never ever made a Star Wars film.
Flawed it may be, but if you weren't grinning like a 5 year old during the Kessel Run sequence, then I dunno if it's the film at fault. Also Solo and Chewie's chemistry was perfect. Plenty of chuckles. It has FAR more authentic star wars feels than say Rogue One or the Prequels.
The Prequels are not bad films. They were actually GROUND BRAKING. No movie was ever done on a complete green screen back in the day. People these days have 0 clue of the cinematic achievements the Star Wars films made under George Lucas. The prequels had a solid story, they had a bad director unlike in the OG trilogy. The actors did the job as he wanted to. I hated Phantom Menace cuz Jar Jar simply didn’t work for me. But loved everything else. Attack of the Clones had a bad romance but loved everything else. Revenge of the Sith became my favorite Star Wars film over the OG trilogy. Still enjoy watching it today. The New Sequel Trilogy were horrible, had 0 sense of direction and purpose to the story. They make no sense at all.
@@powerhouse884 They were objectively badly made on nearly every level EXCEPT for having a coherent overall plot. The direction is amateur hour soap opera, the acting is atrocious and wooden (again due to the director) the plot in the details is nonsense.the amount of cringe is off the charts. It doesn't mean people cant enjoy them or love them, but there ARE objective things in filmaking, directorial skills, shot compositions and so on, and GL was not the person to be directing. And his scripts needed multiple new drafts with a LOT of input from pro writers, just like the originals did. The entire greenscreen thing has been detrimental to films and actors ever since, just look at the in interview with Ewan back then where he says its awful. it looked mostly awful even back then.
Yeah, the sequels are still bad, all their problems are still there. But it took the sequel trilogy to teach me this lesson : you can have real sets, practical effects, good actors having a world to reacs, cool designs, nice fight choreography and all that cinematographic toolbox down... but it ain't worth crap if you don't have a story to tell with characters one can relate to. It is shocking how bad this perfectly produced nothing burger feels to me.
A lot of these are my favourites of their series especially movies like The Godfather 3 and The Phantom Menace. Good to see them getting recognition especially talking about artists getting their own vision on screen.
I think 'The Godfather Pt. III' would fare a tad better if it was regarded as an epilogue, as it was originally intended. That helped me in appreciating it more.
For me the Star Wars prequel and sequel trilogies boil down to this: - the prequels were a good story often poorly told with bad acting. - the sequels were a bad story often well told with good acting. I’m not sure which I prefer, but probably neither.
Bruh, that's stupid as hell The prequels will STILL BE BAD, just because the sequels have been dropped doesn't mean the prequels are good. And yes, I have critical opinion on the Disney SW films.
@@trevorthornley8835 I think the prequels still have more heart. It's just George Lucas's fantasy come to life. versus "Let's make as much money as humanely possible"
I’m a 2000’s baby so the prequel trilogy WAS MY Star Wars. And with looking back and trying to find what I appreciated about the prequels so much as a kid, it was mainly because of how well fleshed out the world building was. The OG trilogy could exist by itself as a vacuum, but as bad the prequels were, they were so great at creating a universe that made me feel like it continued to exist even after the movies already ended. It got me as a little kid interested in lore, in memorizing names of obscure characters and learning obscure historical facts within that universe just like a history buff would study actual world history. It was detailed enough yet open enough to allow my child self to imagine new stories and scenarios within that universe, to make my own characters and pieces of lore while I reenact them with my Lego mini-figures. And for that reason it holds a special place in my heart despite the fact that there are so many things in the movie that are damn near objectively bad
I have been a loyal defender of Speed Racer since it's release in 2008 when I was a kid in high school. For years, almost every single person I talked to about it said it was a terrible movie. Now slowly but surely it has been getting the recognition it deserves and I couldn't be happier. I'm glad your opinion has changed on it as well!! I feel a satisfying amount of vindication from all this lol
I've got nothing but love for that movie🙌🏻🙌🏻 It's one of my absolute favorites. It looks like a silly, over-the -top flick because of its visuals (which are amazing), but it's got *a lot* of heart, and it's more than clear by end of the first sequence when Speed steps off the gas in order to not break his brother's record. I can never watch it without tearing up a little.
@@Olderaccount17 I hated the both Matrix sequels, but the Wachowskis have made some great movies, Speed Racer is definitely one of them. Cloud Atlas was also great.
Yeah, it's awesome to see a lot of people turn around and start to enjoy the movie because the movie is weird but a really good time, especially the ending. Hulk 2003 too.
The Star Wars prequel was my introduction to Star Wars. I loved Phantom Menace. I loved Clone Wars (Especially Tartatovski's animated series. ) I loved Revenge of the Sith. It hurt my soul to see the movies I grew up with being butchered by critics and trolls, or basically anyone with a microphone and a camera. I do appreciate the idea of people softening their opinion of the movies so that I can remember them fondly without fear of someone forcing their opinion on me.
Hello, Father Chris. Great to see that fatherhood is a great look on you. As for me, it's rare that a movie makes me change my opinion than previously.
I love this video. Miss where Chris can be 100% real with us, not that he’s never done that, but I found this video sweet and heartwarming. We love you Chris
Finally we can learn to appreciate Episode I. That's one of my favorite Star Wars movies ever. You can't deny how much original and raw idea was put into that movie and its weird creativeness is why I love it. It has the best choreography in lightsaber duels and best OST.
When I was younger watching equilibrium, I just thought about it as an action movie. But when revisiting it, there's a lot of great plot and emotion to go along with all the action. Really worth watching again
I will always dislike the first one just because of how much I hated the Uncle Ben death. That's one of the dumbest choices I've ever seen in a superhero movie.
@@coolnerdlll6053 that’s not dumb. That’s literally what happens in the comics. You’re the problem with that movie. Not the movie itself. Congrats, you have won the most stupid reply of the day. Possibly the week. That’s also what pushes Peter to be spiderman and to fight crime. No uncle Ben death, Peter doesn’t get the idea to become spiderman
The Amazing Spider-Man movies look so much better these days (compared to the MCU ones). They're not perfect but JUST like Chris said: they were at least standalone movies with a beginning, middle and end. They track. They make sense. Good actors. Flawed but not awful scripts. Action informed by plot and not vice versa.
@@natechenry I know it's in the comics, that's not the problem. The problem is that the reason for Peter not stopping the robber is really stupid and lazy, and then Ben gets himself killed. The Raimi version crushed that scene.
i agree on the star wars prequels - they had a clear vision, a clear story, and fairly satisfying payoff. The bones of those movies were solid - and it laid a foundation for the great Clone Wars series. The Clone Wars era is now my favorite era. By comparison, it's very clear the sequels have no point, no plan, and is just a muddled mess.
This has to be one of your best videos. Please please please do talk about why big movies are not made anymore and how silence is used. I love learning these things from you. Thanks!
I think your opinion could really change on Tenet. Each viewing has a different experience and the scale and realistic nature of a bond like film make it so amazing to me
The Clone Wars made me like the prequels more and seeing the behind the scenes for them also made me see them in a different way in the eyes of George which is what I like about them most now is all the creativity and new that was introduced. Nostalgia plays a role in my enjoyment as well.
I love this video, one of your best. I agree with everything you said and your commentary on The Phantom Menace and George Lucas makes a lot of sense. No, the prequels weren't great, but story wise they have a lot to say and I love seeing the back story to this amazing universe Lucas created.
The contrast between the look in his eyes and his sweater is immense.
Hi ?
Lol
Doesn’t it get you off? 😜
You're immense.
Chris' personality literally changed. I like the old one more.
I saw the Matt Damon interview on hot ones and he said the reason they don't make the same kind of movies anymore is because they can no longer rely on DVD sales. There was more freedom to make whatever kind of movie you wanted before because even if your movie bombed at the box office, at least you will still make a lot of money back on DVD sales. Now your movie has to do well instantly or it will not make any money, so there's less risk-taking and more franchises and sequels.
Long live physical media! Streaming services can suck it!
that’s probably because of the death of the video store. Movies like Shawshank Redemption was a major success on video/DVD but not in cinemas.
That doesn't make much sense to me, because they still have to produce and distribute the DVDs whether they sell or not. It's not like the publisher just sends out free discs to all the retail stores, and gets paid a small cut of the profits whenever a customer buys a copy at Walmart. The stores pre-buy a set amount of units based on how many they think they can sell, and whether any of move or not, or wind up in the bargain bin, Matt Damon has still made his money. This process results in a ton of physical waste, not to mention the cost of making and shipping countless units that may never sell to anyone.
In digital distribution, there is no cost of physical distribution, no scarcity, and whoever wants to rent or buy the movie can do so, no matter where they are. It doesn't matter if the audience is spread out around the world, as long as there's some number of people interested in it, it can find success. Netflix gets a ton of flak, but honestly it is a blessing and has seen a ton of very niche projects get funding and views. They cater to cult audiences and retro nostalgia all the time, banking on it being a worthwhile asset to their overall service even though it wouldn't get ratings on network television or a movie theatre audience. They are willing to invest a reasonable budget into more modest projects getting off the ground, much more so than Hollywood studios ever do. Some of their animated series are some of the best shows I've ever seen in my life, and they would have never seen the light of day if they had to go the traditional method of being network TV children's series or theatrical movies.
@@0Fyrebrand0 It makes complete sense. I rented hundreds of movies I would never buy. I’d rent them and then buy them if I liked them. Video stores had deals like rent 10 movies for $10. That’s far better than cinemas where one movie cost over $15. You would take risks when renting movies. You’re not taking risks when you’re being asked to pay $30-$50 for 4k movie.
@@0Fyrebrand0 The downside to that is that you are always being charged "rent" to watch what you want. If you buy a DVD it's yours forever. If you decide to stop supporting a company, but you have your favorite movie from them on DVD, you don't have to buy anything new. In today's climate if you want to watch your favorite movie, but it's behind a paywall you essentially have to rent it from someone you don't want to monetarily support anymore when you shouldn't have to. Also, as all these companies switch to their own streaming platforms, you have to pay like $100 a month to have access to everything. They've basically recreated cable tv in a new form. That's not very innovative to me, and I'll bet you as the masses completely purge physical media and streaming competition gets more fierce, you're going to see more work appealing to lowest common denominator style audiences. Today you're watching Squid Game, tomorrow you'll be watching Madea Gets an Enema. There will eventually be a race to the bottom in order to remain profitable.
One thing I really appreciate about Spider-Man 3 is the ending; it's not a big sweeping shot of Spidey soaring over New York to Danny Elfman's epic score, but a quiet, beautifully shot and understated scene of forgiveness and reconnection between Peter and Mary Jane and the two slowly dancing together after all they went through in that film. And it's left to the viewer to decide if they managed to make up and eventually get married or not, and whether more villains appeared to threaten their happiness. For all the crap Sony put Sam Raimi through, it's amazing that he still ended the film on such a dignified note and ends it with the two characters the trilogy has followed since the very beginning.
I teared up like a baby when seeing Peter forgive Sandman, such a great scene. Also Harry is such a great character I loved seeing him come back to Pete and helping him toward the end of the movie.
Kind of a shame that the ending sort of justifies a pretty unhealthy relationship.
Well said!
Because of that, I appreciate the ending a lot more. Even as a kid, I never liked/loved the ending--not saying I ever hated it--but after reading this, I do like it being left to the imagination, which makes it more believable.
I'm honestly fine with the fact that there wasn't a Spider Man 4. That ending gives the trilogy a great closure.
Chris :- " Spiderman 3 i don't mind it anymore I forgive you."
Bully McGuire:- " You want forgiveness get religion."
Lol 😂
I’m the few that really like spiderman 3 lol
@@npcimknot958 your be that there isn’t so much of a small audience
Nobody can beat Bully McGuire
@@Antares-rt5ub Hi! You got my name wrong!
It's Bully MAGuire.
Spider-man 3's birth of Sandman scene is HAUNTINGLY beautiful. Sure, the experiment setup and the scientists not stopping it when he fell in the pit are ridiculous, but the actual reveal itself is heart wrenching.
Man do I wish Sony didn’t make Rami cut out the sandcastle scene. Sandman deserved far better.
Agree to this day it's wow
“pRoBaBLy jUsT a BiRd”
The action scenes in that movie are top notch
Agreed. Just Sandman trying to grab the locket with his daughter in it was so emotional.
High school teacher here, and big Star Wars fan. My students LOVE the prequel movies, and while we have funny debates and arguments about them, I love to see how much love they have for those films.
How do they feel about the new "films"
Student: “I thought episode 9 was pretty good”
You failed the class get out
Lmao
Star Wars died after Return of the Jedi
Can you be my teacher?
@@andrewdyckman3616 Still better than Last Jedi
The thing I really like about these Spider-Man movies is that despite the CGI limitations at the time, you could tell they were really making the best use of what they had to work with. Despite CGI being considerably more advanced these days, it's often taken for granted and used for the purpose of visual eye candy to cover up a bad script, as opposed to supplementing a well written script.
Agreed
Sam rami fanboy all day
@@treysutton4491 keep crying, show everyone your tears.
It feels liek .. even without the cgi etc.. the core of the movies are good.
@@npcimknot958 exactly cgi is the icing on the cake
The prequels were, in fact, my Star Wars. When I grew up and understood the internet more I finally realized how the majority of the world saw my favorite trilogy, and it did make me sad that they weren’t appreciated and loved the way that I loved them; but I kept loving them anyways without letting other’s opinions affect me. I am very glad they are getting more recognized tho. Movies really shape the person you become; that’s what I’ve always believed. It’s an intricate part of why I am the way I am. Thanks George Lucas :)
I completely understand this kind of thinking. I loved the movie "Hackers" as a kid. I thought I'd be rollerblading to work in a leather jacket when I grew up. That said, I know Hackers is a bad movie. I still love it and I still quote it, but I know it's not well-executed. The prequels are nostalgic for many people because they and their promotional tie-ins are deeply embedded in an entire generation's childhood experience. Taking a more objective view of childhood love, and being able to acknowledge its flaws, is an important part of growing up. We need to be able to recognize the difference between films that are great and films that we love. The prequels are deeply flawed films, and, even knowing that, we can still love them.
@@rhlhappy You.. How DARE you bring up a balanced view and distinguish opinion from fact...? Out with you!
j/k I'm really digging your comment. Especially with the prequels-sequels raging fire, it's really hard for people to understand that they can like something, without it being a masterpiece. Or that you can call something _bad_, and it won't automatically make something else _good_. It's really sad, actually.
I can see how people can like the prequels. Still I believe they're bad, though. And I absolutely despise Rise of Skywalker, but think the others are OK. I only wish more people were as balanced and centered as you are. The internet wouldn't be such an awful place.
@@artbargra My ego whispered when @nat cat said loved the prequels, what a garbage taste. Then another whisper came, I don't like this movie so should you. Listened to all the other thoughts that came through my head then analyzed which is which and finally came up on, good for nat cat. After all, to give your increasingly running out of time life to something then it had better be worth it.
@@artbargra you can say the same about any place considering Twitter isn’t quality of that too
@@artbargra being negative is sorta nothing new .Which is why I ignore top tier lists from people .Some might disagree from revenge of the sith .I found that movie okay to this day but if anything I felt like the franchise should have stopped back then but I assumed that they didn’t considering how big the franchise is
Spider-Man 3 has my favourite sequence in the whole trilogy:
When Harry throws the Goblin bomb at Peter, and with zero slow-motion, nor any hesitation, dodged, *thwips* it with his web, and bombs the fuck out of his former best friend.
It's visceral, character informed, and absolutely devastating to see Peter do this without any sort of regret or remorse.
The fight leading up to it is great, but that shot is genuinely one of my favourites in any film I've seen.
Peter and Harry's conflict was set-up so brilliantly in the first two films!!
“It tasted like strawberries”
I think if they had just dropped “Sandman” from Spiderman 3, and used the recovered time to focus on Venom, it would have been great!
Spiderman 3, 3 villain or venom in it really ruin it, cause of that they ruin new goblin moment, but for some reason sam raimi make it right, like it wouldnt happen if not in that way, but yeah i want to see what happen if we got more new goblin or venom not in movie but can be villain for next movie.
@@lovetheblue6659 you have it the wrong way around. Venom should have been dropped and more focus should have been given to sandman. I actually believe Sandman is one of the most underrated cbm villains of all time
Opinions can definitely change, sometimes you were you in a bad mood, sometimes you were expecting something more or different. Or maybe you think it’s needed to be great. Im glad Chris is talking about this as it will let more honest opinions will thrive. Great job Chris.
My opinion about movies has changed massively over the years and I say it.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 I still dislike it. Have seen it quite a few times... for me it just isn,t that great. But who knpws maybe today I,ll see it under a different eye.
Vertical limit I hated back than... but now it kinda grew on me.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 I must be in one of those moods because I have hated it every time I watched. Oh well lol
HOnestly, its not so much that oppinions change, not with the preqeuls. More so an entirely different generation of peopel are the ones who grew up with it and are more vocal because younger people use the internet. IF you were to ask anyone who was 15 and up when the prequels came out what they thought of them today they would probably give you the same answer they did 20 plus years ago. I admit I grew up loving the prequels but it feels like almost indoctrinated to like them and millenials are the ones who use the internet the most. Just a theory.
@@ryanmcmahon7087 I couldn’t say I was young when I saw the prequels I didn’t care for them except revenge of the sith
I used to think Wall-E was really, really boring. I was strange.
The opening scene moves me to tears to this day.
@@thecinematicmind I love the music when the Axiom lands on Earth. Thomas Newman is a genius.
I used to think it's the best Pixar film, I still do.
I liked when wall-e gave consent to make out with his brother
@@thecinematicmind 🤣
Phantom Menace had one of most intense lightsaber fights in the franchise's history. Still chills to this day.
the actors were so fast that what you see is slowed down
Absolutely agree I love the music and the sheer absolute fear you can see and it’s done perfect them three actors were perfect in the film and that’s actually my favourite fight scene in all of the films I did like yoda and count duku lol baddass lol
Still my favorite
@@martyr2839 Why… do people dislike the movie again? Lol
@@Petersonmgee lol I have always liked them films but it seems to be more about fitting in with others and calling them terrible but the funny thing is when ever you go to a Comic-Con you see most people either dressed up as original characters or from them characters from the the second trilogy and you always see people a lot dressed up as darth maul such a cool character but it’s always called yet they love dressing up as them lol I don’t really know why people feel the need to really slag off films must get fun from it they do it with all films just like the new monsterverse and I still really enjoy them skull island got the worst of it I don’t know why because I thought it was really good and I watch them quite regularly especially as I have 3 kids and my youngest is my son who absolutely loves Star Wars and star trek and he is obsessed with Godzilla and kong both he actually got upset when we watched the remake of King Kong when he dies he won’t watch it again because of that lol
It always has to change, when you watch a movie more than once you get a much deeper point of view and much more details
Can you do me a favor
Can you do me a favor?
In the case of Cowboy Bebop, the added details make the show even more enjoyable. In Metroid Other M, the more you learn the worse it gets lol.
That’s how I feel about the bee movie
Hearing Dave Filoni explain the character motivations and George’s ideas made me like the prequels even more. Definitely not perfect but George did his story his way.
Filoni's explanation of "Duel of the Fates" is the most sincere and passionate thing I've heard anyone say about Star Wars. He has such a deep love of George Lucas' ideas, and it's incredibly heartwarming to hear him speak on all things Star Wars.
The prequels might be mediocre (not Revenge of the Sith, it's my favorite one), but at least they WERE STAR WARS.
When I graduated from university, and started my first truly professional job, I was told by my office workers to watch Office Space. I watched it and did not get what all the hype was about. After about a year on the job, I re-watched the movie and found it to be one of the funniest and most insightful films, distilling perfectly all the inanity of white collar life. It took some exposure to actual office life to see just how relatable that film was.
Let me ask you something, when you come in on Monday and you're not feeling real well does anyone ever say to you, looks like someone has a case of the Mondays?
@@bigkmoviesandgames No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.
Its technically outdated but god did it brilliantly send up office
dynamics love love love it still.
The Office was like that for me. Didn't like it at all when I was still in college. Watched it when I was working for a few years and that's when you get it.
@@Lirka_906 which version?
This was a really cool and humbling episode. I love that you’re able to feel “real” and I personally consider this another notch in what makes you a great critic and can be relatable. Can’t WAIT for the “why don’t they make movies like ….”
The Spiderman 3 black suit reveal still gives me chills to this day. Or the moment where Peter hits MJ. Or the sandman scene. I haven’t felt the same emotions watching the MCU spiderman movies possibly because they are a lighter tone and you don’t feel the stakes. Hopefully no way home brings it back.
I feel the same, MCU spidey movies lack a bit of emotion and high stakes, something Raimis movies had quite a lot and TASM also had, specially in the second film.
I agree but I still like em
Me 10 years ago: "Man, Twilight is awful!"
Me today: "Hey, 'member how tolerable Twilight is compared to 50 Shades and 365 Days? Man, that was an embarrasing phase of our lives"
"Twilight" and "tolerable" do not belong in the same sentence. God that movie made me wince, yet bored me at the same time.
I'd say besides some of the dumb lore choices from the book (like sparkling in the sun) and the hype with "he stalks me, therefore that's romantic), the movie is rather harmless.
The dynamic between the 2 main stars is also off, even if the actual actors went to have a relationship in real life.
The movies are better then the books that’s all I’d say about that personally
50 shades and 365 days makes twilight look oscar Worthy. 365 days is just insulting across the board
The hate for Twilight was so unbelievably overblown also unlike 50 shades and 365 days Twilight is a vampire romance so it makes sense that aspects aren't healthy
It’s only natural for opinions to change over time, as we experience more art and in our own lives. Some of my favorite movies were ones I disliked at first. But I’m glad I went back and rewatched them so they could become great experiences I could revisit and enjoy for years to come.
Most films today aren’t like that for me. They feel more disposable and lack a lot of the rewatchability of movies from even 20 years ago. Perhaps that is part of the point now, but there’s definitely something to be said about the appeal of older films. And I’m looking forward to your video discussing this in the future.
I like most films today tbh. Mabye cause I’m a modern person. Older movies(not all those films but for the most part) I can’t connect with them or enjoy them and I’ve tried to. That’s just my opinion Hopefully I don’t get negative comments from old cinephiles
Shut up
I definitely had to grow and become more cultured before I could enjoy the fantastic film, "Nacho Libré." On first watch, my ignorant poop brain couldn't appreciate it as the fine piece of art that it truly is.
@@coolguitarperson5942 why do I need to shut up? That’s sounds negative. None of what wrong it it’s my viewpoint nor was anything negative what I said. I was never mean at all. I just said an opinion. Im a nice dude man.
@@InternetZane I don’t have a poop brain. AI appreciate something an artistic standpoint but not really enjoy it. Just a different opinion that’s all
Something else I love about the phantom menace is Anakin's mom. She was a really minor character and the acting wasn't even that great but I just love how simple her relationship with Anakin is. It's such a complex story but that one thing ties it all together.
I agree. One of the things that always stuck out to me that not necessarily justified, but added to Anakin's transition to Darth Vader was the death of his mother because they were so close.
I can understand what you mean
Now let's see the kids who grew up with the Sequel trilogy in 20 years defend them. That'll be interesting.
And they’ll probably be hating on whatever new batch of films, shows and other content that’ll be out by that point in time. It’s become a cycle for the Star Wars fandom where something is hated when it’s still recent and new but years later it gets more appreciated by the people that grew up with said film, show or other piece of media/content.
There are a few legitimate defenses for the sequel trilogy: better acting, better direction/cinematography, WAY better special effects. Cons: everything else
@@bencarlson4300 I dunno, I think it had good characters, too. Kylo Renn is pretty iconic. Finn didn't get too fleshed out but he was a good character. And I never agreed with the hate for Rey, I thought she was a good fun protagonist. The action sequences are also better imo. I honestly can't think of anything the prequels did better than the sequels.
Or the adults today who do like them... we do exist. (7 and 8 at least, 9 is whatever.)
I severely doubt anyone will remember these movies in 20 years. Kids these days love their Marvel way more than Star Wars anyway. This was not a SW generation.
You're not alone on 'Spider-Man 3', Chris. Judging by the memes, people have gone to appreciate its camp. I also understand what you mean that it's not being held back by a cinematic universe. Most superhero movies today need to adopt a similar style for continuity's (or brand) sake but the style for the Raimi films absolutely serves Spider-Man and his foes.
I don't think cinematic universes should be a restraint; it sure weren't in the early days of the MCU; but that's another matter entirely.
I personally still don't like 'Spider-Man 3' but I do understand where its fans are coming from.
bully mcguire wouldnt exist without spider man 3… it may be the worst but it has its moments
Spider-Man 3 has it’s moments. I actually like the Eddie Brock in the film, that he is this complete mirror image of Peter and how Peter could have ended up without the moral code. Venom in the comics was never that thematically interesting (just ”cooler”).
I also never understood why people got upset over bully Maguire - that is exactly how a dork like Peter would imagine being cool was like. The cringe is intentional. We don’t want Peter to act that way, or maybe see a bit of ourselfs in that kind of behavior.
@@christianbjorck816 I agree
It’s much better than the TASM movies and the 2018 Venom movie, I haven’t seen the second Venom movie yet, I don’t really plan to, the first one was a big disappointment for me, only Tom Hardy was good, everything else was a mess.
ya i used to hate it (mainly cuz i was a huge Venom fan from the 90s) i learned to appreciate that ppl who didnt know of the character (the way i selfishly wanted) and enjoyed Venom in it. hell i grew to like the dance scene mostly cuz memes made me like it after many years (i used to cringe at it when it first came out). I like how our tastes can change with different perspectives and not of my own selfishness.
I still believe that Equilibrium has one of the best scenes in film history. If you’ve watched it you know what I’m talking about. It’s the moment the main character listens to music for the first time and weeps because of how beautiful it is to him. There are other emotions behind that scene as well but it is still something that nearly all of us can relate to. A piece of music that moved us to the verge of tears or full blown blubbering.
I take that feeling and apply it to his situation of simply hearing MUSIC for the first time let alone a favorite song. I love that scene and I wished more did too.
Well said, I had tears in my eyes too when I saw the scene for the first time. I am glad the perception about the movie has shifted a lot since the time it released.
Yep, That scene gave me goosebumps and teared me up. Equilibrium is definitely in my top 20 movies of all time. It's so unique and has such a great message.
The thing I've come to realise about ALL of the Spider-Man movies is that even when the writing is a little shoddy, they still have more heart and soul than pretty much any other superhero movie, and that's why I love every single one of them.
The Raimi trilogy is corny as f**k if you watch it today, but it still manages to capture the essence of the "superhero fantasy" so effortlessly, and with such a sort of simplistic purity, that it's impossible not to love it - it's not just a case of rose-tinted glasses
The score still holds up I believe
Yeah definitely
@@Descro382 ohh yeah the music in the films is amazing
@@Descro382 it does
There is a scene in the 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers where Donald Sutherland tells Brooke Adams “if you’re not crazy do that thing with your eyes” and Brooke does this weird talent where she shakes her eyes and the characters laugh. Scenes like that don’t happen in movies anymore and you can’t write that. Brooke had to have brought up the fact she can do this weird thing with her eyes and they wrote it in. It’s such a genuine moment I recommend watching out for it next time you watch the movie. There’s also a scene in the original Nightmare on Elm Street where Nancy is running up the stairs and her feet start to stick to the stairs with a glue like mixture. It’s such an amazing practical effect for like less than 10 seconds of footage. Made me think about how CGI would totally ruin the integrity of that small scene if it were done today.
Also, I’m now one of those, “back in my day” people now
The "crazy eyes" scene in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and the scene where Nancy's feet go through the stairs have to be among my favorite parts of those respective films.
@@MsNotzi There is something about practical effects like that stair scene that inspire wonder in me. How was it done? How much time, money, resources did it take? Was it magically done in one take or did it take a whole day or more? How many times did she have to wash her feet to reshoot it? I really love how it’s all a reference to how you can’t get away in your dreams, almost running in place or in slow motion. Such a great visual. If it were done in CGI the glue would be dripping down the steps perfectly while the practical effect not only looks better, but it’s the real thing, random and imperfect. She’s really running up these stairs and sticking to them. I imagine you get such better performances out of actors when they’re really doing it. Obviously it’s more dangerous, but so much more memorable in return.
The "Pirates" movies have evolved a lot for me. Going back and watching 1-3 now are just a crazy experience
@@ogge9304 I really think hey deserve to share praise with those Sagas also... Maybe in retrospect it will more. Pirates 2 was actually my favorite
George Lucas I have to respect for his world building in the prequels. I do much prefer the TV shows during the prequel trilogy more.
Honestly I feel like the prequel shows (and arguably the various memes) are singlehandedly responsible for its modern popularity.
I like Phantom Menace and loved revenge of the sith
But hated attack of clones, bad romance comedy
@@tariqthomas9090 I feel it’s the main reason. TCW is what got me into Star Wars & is the main reason for the Prequels been my favourite along with ROTS
yeah also really come around for the sheer amount or practical sets and effects they used in phantom menace, so much awesome effort when into making it
@@pedroagustin9989 yes, loved the first and third. Revenge of the sith had by far the best saber fight ever.
Glad Spidey 3 is finally getting some love.
Harry sacrificing himself for Peter, and Peter finding peace with losing Uncle Ben were amazing!!!
The moment in SM3 that got me was Peter asking Harry for help, and Harry was just done. No anger, no resentment anymore. Just done. It was heartbreaking to watch these two best friends become enemies. It made Harry’s arrival and subsequent sacrifice all the more satisfying and tragic (respectively).
Yeah
2 things can destroy a movie: Studio interference & Lack of Studio interference. (There’s a balance that some studios get right.)
I agree, with one small change. I think that Studio Oversight is what is needed. No artist can be at their best without a good editor who can help point out the rough spots that the artist isn’t seeing (ie prequalified trilogy).
no art should be „interfered“ by a third party. obviously there is a potent lack of art introspection from chris’ very hollywood-centric audience here. The best, most creative, risk taking films come from
filmmakers who were able to bring their unfiltered vision to the screen. Why would you want anything else? If I go to see Dalis painting in a museum, I want to see HIS painting. Same for filmmakers. It‘s absolutely the same. Only that theres more money involved.
So the Disney Star Wars movies and the prequel movies ?
i dont get the studio interference argument when it comes to the prequels because it was produced by Lucas himself. He was the studio. And no studio knows Star Wars like Lucas does. So what exactly would the studio notes be like?
@@starkingbiker I meant that not enough people (working for the studio or not) interfered with Lucas.
The birth of Sandman scene in Spider-Man 3 might be the most beautiful CGI sequence ever put to film. Absolutely incredible
This is the truth
I wouldn’t say the CGI of that scene is ground breaking or ahead of it’s time, is the execution of the scene, it was well thought out not scientifically but cinematically. It is to this day on of the best sci-fi scenes also one of the best villain scenes as well.
Um.... have you watched anything that Villeneuve has done?
@@scott972 I love Villenueve’s work. Just saying that sequence is a work of art
@@ShinigamiUchihax2 CGI was technically ahead of its time since it came out before the CGI revolution.
“It’s kind of annoying having to constantly defend yourself for liking a movie” me defending the force awakens, and Tom Holland’s spiderman everyday
Not just movies, just liking anything in general.
Had to endure so much whenever I talk about modern Pokemon games or Fire Emblem Fates
Fuck anyone who thinks you can’t like the force awakens
Tom Holland's Spiderman is horrible IMO. I would argue that we haven't had a really good Spiderman, but Tobey was the closest, and his movies stand head and shoulders above the rest.
@@Rapunzel879 well said! Can’t stand the new Spider Man movies but they are better than “the amazing spider man” ones tho
I liked The Force Awakens until I realized that it was just A New Hope 4k remaster. So about halfway into the movie.
Jake Lloyd deserves an apology for all the crap he’s endured since playing young Anakin and for that same fanbase that once despised the prequels to now look back on those same films after the sequels and think, “The prequels aren’t that bad.” All that nonsense was unnecessary and he did what George Lucas expected him to do.
I still enjoyed Episode 1 at first because it gave a bigger explanation to what the Force is with the Midichlorians and people missed the mystique of the Force which, in my opinion, is a step back. I was hoping the sequels would incorporate the Whills to paint the full picture of the Force but the mystique was brought back for nostalgic reasons and despite that, it still didn’t work. The sequels are a wasted opportunity to tell a full story of the Force.
Jake Lloyd was garbage as are many a child actor - it’s of course not his fault as blame lies on parents, casting and director. Quality child actors are few and far between but they are thankfully often at the minimum ok-ish (not so in the prequels). If you kid has dreams of becoming a singer and can’t tell an A from a G perhaps you as the parent should not encourage that particular pursuit.
The prequels suck and it’s all G. Lucases fault (even the originals would have been a disaster without mainly his ex wife and other people around him that influenced him for the better).
What the prequels do that the sequels do not however is build upon the universe in a way that feel right. The lore and all that is solid in the prequels but the new movies just butcher them. Everything new with Star Wars, Star Trek, HeMan etc etc etc is not cannon and should be disregarded completely - and I can not say that of the SW prequels so I guess they have that going for them.
@@Dakhor it’s a shame George Lucas’s ex-wife is not fully acknowledged by the public for not working on Star Wars but I guess that recent article about her not liking the sequel movies helped out kinda
@@lorenavedon wrong. Star Wars was still alvie and well at the time and it still and a wide fan base. Disney did destroy star wars.
the sequels are wasted to tell the whole story because they didn't have a story to begin with...episodes 1 to 6 already told the whole story; the story of Anakin's rise and fall to later redemption. the sequels do not matter.
@@lorenavedon No they don't suck
The biggest 180 I ever had on a film was Unbreakable. Saw it first when I was 11 and thought it was the boringest film ever made. Saw it again at 20 in 2010, and to this day it's still my favorite film of all time.
The Prequels lacked the execution, but the ambition and grand vision for the story and world building were quite incredible. All the Star Wars movies, good or bad, were like going to the World's Fair. It was an event, you were going to see the future of epic blockbuster cinema unlike anything you'd seen that year, and it felt larger than life. Now Star Wars feels like just another big budget movie that leans on nostalgia and lacks the vision, world-building, ambition, and risk-taking that made Star Wars revolutionary. I think we just miss those qualities, making us appreciate the Prequels for them now much more than we did before, even if they were not great movies.
I would like to make the argument that the last jedi took more risks than maybe any Star Wars movie and yet half the fanbase got pissed about it so I think all of this stuff is completely subjective
@@alexm4163 The Last Jedi borrows heavily from a certain other movie, which is why it's so awkward. It's wasn't some original risky vision. It was more like taking a bunch of random elements and throwing them in a blender. That's not the work of some cinema auteur.
Shut up bro
Lacking execution is a very misleading way of saying it. There is an absolutely stupid amount of incredible execution in those movies. There is issues with the dialogue, acting and it is a weird tonal issue in having a movie that includes the character Jar Jar Binks and the podrace having a main conflict around a trade blockade. But those movies are incredibly impressive filmmaking wise.
The prequel films were just bad films. Arguably way worse than whatever Disney was trying to do. The prequels played it safe and very much relying on fans nostalgia by giving them a story that really didn't need to be told. Rather than take a leap and tell an all new story, Lucas played it safe by giving us a bad origin story for Darth Vader.
Personally, I would love to see this as a series.
Thank you! Pacino's cry at the end of Godfather 3 was my first (and for a while only) "cry my eyes out" moment watching a movie. I was around 21-22 and something broke inside me during the scene. I was crying so bad and I had to get up and go to my bed a few meters behind and burry my face to my pillow. My friends and I were really shocked at that reaction. Since that day, I somehow slowly turned into a cry-baby while I watch movies, now I'm even getting a little teary on those obligatory emotional beats at the end of slapstick/absurd comedies but at the time I thought no movie would really make me truly cry. But it suddenly happened that day, in that scene. I'm glad someone that I know I can trust acknowledged that it was a powerful scene. Because all those years, everyone (including critics I've trusted, friends I have similar tastes) kept saying that movie is garbage and I felt weird about myself because it was the first movie that hit me so hard. Now I can let my self-conscious or doubtful feelings go, thanks to Chris.
Ah Chris, spoken like a true artist. I love that you respect the art of film in its entirety, cinematography, vision, acting, direction, writing, etc. So unlike many critics who judge based on special effects and plot alone. Thank you for not being afraid to be yourself, because it inspires us all to be ourselves with no shame.
He is afraid to be himself. He isn't honest anymore.
He won't say anything negative.
Look at his backlog of reviews, he was great.
This is nonsense.
@@kevinkilbane2007 Then kindly leave. Find some random UA-camr who hasn't shot a single footage in their life and trash talk about other's work. Chris has clearly stated that it doesn't feel right to talk shit about movies anymore cause as a creator himself he understands the challenges one has to face.
As you should. I hate it when critics just fixate on one part of the film and that’s how they judge it. A movie is a mashup of a bunch of different art forms all coming together, so just judging a film on just the story or just the effects or just the acting doesn’t do it justice in my book. Also I think Chris understands how fucking hard it is to make a good movie! So many critics on the internet make themselves seem so high and mighty like making a good movie is as simple as making a PP&J. I think once you realize it isn’t so easy you start to judge films more fairly.
@@kevinkilbane2007 - Absolutely right. It's becoming annoying very fast.
@@kickass2117 - Actually, Chris material is horrendous. I've watched it all. He's a great critic, and should continue this path as it was. Of course he should direct and do what he's passionate about, but let's be real: 1- He SUCKS as a director. 2- This forced positivity is not gonna last.
Sure, the Prequels have flaws. But man, they are unique. The Pod Race alone was so amazing as a Kid. And it still holds up very well. The Foundation of the Prequels is just amazing in general. Thats one big reason why Clone Wars is so popular.
The clone wars is a great series but it doesn't redeem the movies for me.
When I saw the prequels as an adult at 25 the first being of course the Phantom Menace back in 99 sure it wasn't like the original trilogy of films but boy was it different and challenging at the same time. I'm so glade that George had the balls to incorporate the very idea of starting Anakin Skywalker out at 9 instead of some already fully trained Jedi for the simple fact that it showed a fragile boy taken from his mother and his usual safety net and broke him into a very slow but eventually powerful transition into one of the most terrifying film screen scfi monsters of all time. That takes tremendous guts and setting an ego aside in doing something of that nature vs following what fanboys would of wanted him to do or a mega corporation like Disney would want under a committee driven hell hole!
The prequels at least told a cohesive story from beginning to end. Like Chris I was on board with the sequels but after TROS, the whole thing just felt like being jerked around by a million different visions for what they thought it should be.
The most recent time a film changed for me was when I watched Arrival again, but not in this way bad-good, good-bad. I really enjoyed it the first time I watched it, like a lot, Denis is a master. But watching it again recently I actually cried. Knowing everything going in, the script is do damn tight and nothing is wasted. The themes of communication and choice are executed beautifully, it made me emotional but it also made me ask myself “Would I do the same in that position?”.
It’s the best alien “invasion” film ever made in my opinion, and also such a good relationship drama. Please watch It if you haven’t, and if you’ve only seen it once, watch it again.
Alien invasion film, time travel film, love story, and above all a story about how communication (or lack thereof) can be the most powerful tool available. I love Villeneuve and this is my favorite of his. Nothing else out there like it.
Well, could you do anything differently in that position? Predestined events only give the illusion of choice, they are already an inevitability.
I think that also happens with most of serious sci-fi. I have seen lots of cases with BR 2049, Ad Astra, Gravity and High Life. But it's great you changed your opinion on Arrival, I love that film so much. Also check the other flimes Denis Villenueve had made
As someone who really appreciates the aesthetic side of movies as a visual medium, I was blown away by the Phantom Menace. I believe it was a defining moment in consolidating the aesthetics of Star Wars: the landscapes and architecture of Naboo and Coruscant, Padmé's wardrobe, the new ships, the pod racing, even the sounds of the pods, it all felt amazing. I think it was hindered by carrying on it's shoulders the expectations of a whole generation of fans, who were waiting over 20 years for new Star Wars movies. And I believe, like you mentioned, that a new generation, who watches the whole saga, starting from the prequels, and with the added TV shows and spin offs, will have a very different view of how the movies rank, compared to each other.
I would LOVE to see a video about why films aren't made the same way anymore, and it would be great if it was an actual exploration of the evolution of the medium instead of just complaining about corporatism and overuse of CG (valid complaints and concerns to an extent, but reductive when examining the art form as a whole). As an aspiring filmmaker myself, I have this conversation a lot with other local filmmakers of all ages and it tends to go nowhere. It would be really nice to see a sincere examination of the current methodology for film production across the entire spectrum and see how filmmakers can move forward from where the medium is currently at.
I was so happy to hear Chris mention Speed Racer that I screamed! I love that movie so much.
It's been so great to hear positive film talk because I feel like negative film talk is way too normalized on the internet. And while it is valid to hate on things, there's a point where it becomes toxic when it's most of what people do when talking about movies. So, to hear someone be positive about film talk, even if the positives are sparse in a movie full of mess, has been really refreshing and has made me remember why I love this artform so much.
Yeah I know
To be fair, Roger Ebert has changed his mind on certain films from time to time, so if the guy who many consider to be the greatest critic of all-time was willing to change his mind on certain things, then surely more can come forward on this.
Man I miss Roger Ebert.
Love Roger Ebert. Great inspiration.
Yeah didn't he once say: "actually I really liked Freddy Got Fingered" lol
Given his stance on video games, he was also clearly capable of being completely and blatantly wrong.
You don’t have to be a renowned critic to change your mind on something.
1:07 Avatar
2:00 godfather part III
4:36 Equilibrium
5:40 speed racer
7:07 men in black 3
10:49 the Star Wars movies
George Lucas has a unique position in US film history. He essentially changed Hollywood from without, causing Hollywood to emulate him and incorporate his technology and his geeky obsessions into the mainstream, and then Lucas kind of grew and became a competitor, and then Hollywood kind of cannibalized him. The prequels aren't good movies, not from where I stand, but they do tell a more coherent narrative than the sequels, or (dare I say it) even the original trilogy. Lucas has said so many times that he wants to go back to making smaller and more intimate narratives and I wish he would. He's a much more talented filmmaker than people acknowledge (even if his dialogue needs to be rewritten). If Episode I weren't so juvenile at times, it would potentially be the best SW film, certainly the best since '80. I think at the time, though, Lucas was so preoccupied with CGI that he didn't hone in on the tone and pacing as much as he should have in retrospect. With Episode III, you can tell that he did do that.
Honestly, I think Episode 2 is my favourite. A totally singular vision, a really truly *escapist* work, that transports you to a whole new world with such an intoxicating sensory overload of CGI and green screen, the dizzying homage to space operas, westerns, political thrillers, war movies and so on. I love all the dorky, wooden aspects to it, because it’s just sentimental, powerful fluffy movie history, for families especially. I bonded over Star Wars over and over with my family and every friend I met in some way, mostly through a nostalgia for the Prequels. And yeh, the soundtrack across the whole board is perfect.
Apparently he's writing for that Andor series now, so maybe he'll get another shot at something like that. The dome shot stuff like the mandalorian definitely have that smaller and more intimate feel so I'm interested to see how his will turn out.
Oh god
Amen.
Episode I feels very long, and sometimes dry. I think had the pacing been tightened up a bit up front and especially in the middle section, it would be so much more watchable.
Equilibrium is one of the best sci-fi action movies I have ever seen, it has been a favorite of mine ever since it came out. It is inspired by other great movies like The Matrix as the creators admitted themselves but that takes nothing away from its own merits.
Yeah it's one of my top 5 favorite movies. I think it really impacted me since it came out when I was an angsty teenager. We had just read 1984 and Fahrenheit 451. It just hit home so well. I rewatched it recently and it still brought tears to my eyes at some moments.
Supernatural should have had a season where Sam and Dean fought aliens.
I love that movie. As a viewer the journey is really emotional, in a society where emotions are bad.
It's far too derivative.
@@Severin69 Big agree
The fighting was often really good, but i think there were just too many parallels to matrix, it really weakened the experience.
Definitely looking forward to "Why don't they make movies like that anymore" Chris. For the record, I've always held a higher opinion of The Phantom Menace than most. It does have its flaws, but it is actually the closest in tone to A New Hope (yes, even closer than The Force Awakens, which doesn't have as much in common with A New Hope as many people seem to think it does). And while Empire Strikes Back is the best film in the franchise, A New Hope was the first, and set the tone for all that followed.
Oh my god. Yes. Thank you. I still don't understand why people think The Force Awakens is a carbon copy of ANH. Phantom Menace is the best prequel because it feels like Star Wars and it feels like a FILM. The weird racial stereotypes though.... Yeah understand if that ruins it all for someone.
When you say "Why don't they make movies like that anymore"
What movies or type of movies are you referring to?
Narratively The Force Awakens is an amalgam of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes back. That’s why people say it’s similar because it follows the same beats. Regardless of tone which I do agree feels more like the original trilogy than any of the prequels, but that’s my opinion and anyone is entitled to theirs. But on the case of The Phantom Menace, I’ve always felt it is the best of the prequel trilogy. It’s the most like a Star Wars out of the three. However I do enjoy the lore that comes out of the prequel trilogy, it makes it feel like a world more than just a series of movies.
Phantom Menace feels nothing like A New Hope. A new hope has an incredible sense of pace and energy to. It always feels like the plot is always moving forward. Phantom Menace starts with I guess a somewhat fun escape scene, but also the movie completely comes to a halt during the tattooine and anakin scenes.
@@formerfilmstudent8349 I’ve always felt the pacing to be agonizing in A New Hope to be honest. I get what you mean with Phantom Menace though. It’s a stop and start kind of ride. Feels like riding in a car with someone who doesn’t know how to drive a stick shift. But I think it has the most heart out of the prequel trilogy which is why I hold it the highest out of the three.
What you say about the prequels is absolutely correct as someone who was a kid when these films came out you cant tell me they are not great films obviously im older now and i can recognise their faults but like you said that was our version of the original trilogy so nostalgia will always win.
My big one is also Phantom Menace. It took an interview with Dave Filoni and the new trilogy for me to go back and give it another shot. Honestly I love the world building he did with it. All the new unique things rather than just reusing assets is really impressive and I really like most of them.
If everything Dave Filoni said was brought to the front in that film it would have been incredible...but the kids wouldn't have liked the weight of it.
So glad you mentioned Spidey 3. I’ve had a very similar change of heart about that movie. The great moments are truly great and I think the soundtrack elevates that film so much.
Spiderman 3's Sandman is my favorite villain of that trilogy. Hes the only one that feels like a human and maintains that through the story. He doesn't have a weird split personality or psychosis. And his conversation at the end with Peter is really well acted.
Sandman was the best part of a disappointing movie. I agree, he never got his due because the movie was pretty bad.
And the animation sequence where he becomes Sandman was artistically awesome.
@@con_doorman That is one of those very rare scenes where not one line of dialogue is spoken but the impact of the scene comes through hard. I'm not kidding when I say that is a prime example of how a dialogue-less scene can be powerful.
I think 3 would have been just as good as 1 and 2 if venom wasn't in it. Peter wanting revenge on sandman for killing uncle ben and harry wanting revenge on peter for killing his dad are two plot points that work REALLY well together. It could have been a great story if you cut out all the eddie brock rivalry and black spidey suit stuff.
@@howler9171trust me people know
As a kid who grew up with the prequel trilogy, it's been interesting watching the opinions of people who grew up with the originals change with time. When I first caught a glimpse of people's opinions online about the prequels, I remember being confused and a bit sad that movies I thought were pretty good were getting dragged through the mud. Now, a lot of those same people are showing more appreciation for those movies and it's strange, because to me, they've always been good. Who knows, maybe in 20 years I'll have my thoughts on the sequels changed by the next generation.
I enjoy both the prequels and originals, but my biggest issue is trying to like them as six films rather than two separate trilogies. Whenever I try watching A New Hope right after Revenge of the Sith, it just doesn't work for me. For one thing, you're having to have the force and jedi reexplained to you in the 4th film of a saga. I just prefer to watch the originals without thinking about the prequels, just as I prefer to watch the prequels without thinking about the originals. A lot of it comes down to difference in technology (not that one technology is superior to the other--they're just too different to connect properly). It's like the saga switches mediums halfway through: like if a radio drama was a sequel to a silent movie
I remember at least the first prequel movie being very popular and liked when it came out. But then everyone hated it once the internet became more mainstream.
no they won't the only reason the prequels are looked at differently is because of how terrible and pretty much worse the sequels are. The sequels will never be beloved as the ot is or as appreciated as the prequels are becoming lately.
I especially love the point Chris mentioned that George Lucas actually got to make the films he wanted...I'd much rather watch that, than some cookie-cutter, studio conveyor belt film where the studio is telling the creatives (directors) how their films should be like. Not to mention these days the director is always constrained by needing to make the film somehow tie into an additional aspect of some "shared universe"...I'd rather watch a director's actual vision for the film.
I wouldn't hold my breath on the Sequels getting re-valuated. They have serious issues and brain-fart moments that even the Prequels lacked. Their memes kinda suck too, I tried to get into them, but they were just lame and preachy.
At best I can see The Last Jedi getting a cult following in the same way Alien: Resurrection got, of people liking it in a "fascinating guilty pleasure" sort of way, but Episode 9 is an absolute mess and as the years go by more and more people are coming around to the fact The Force Awakens was a factory movie that people were TOO damn quick to praise.
Like, one of the 1000 Movies You Have To See Before You Die? No, piss off. A New Hope already exists, and it leads to two more good movies, TFA is followed up by despair.
Save that spot for films more deserving like The Fall, Moon or even Dredd.
Spider-Man 3 part really surprised me, in how Chris sincerely says that there's fantastic parts in it.
I always loved Spider-Man 3. I think it's a emotionally powerful film. Christopher Young's score is powerful. Harry's death is just powerful...
100% Young did a fantastic job carrying over elfmans themes and Harry’s death always makes me cry. It’s so simply but so beautiful
I agree people underrated Harry's arch but it was masterful because we grew up with him from the beginning and most movies may have just made him a villain to be killed off before becoming good again and seeing his ways but at the core this was Peter's best friend and we all felt that.
@@jeremy144713 I still cry to it, every single time I watch it. It's just powerful.
Yessssss! I have always been a HUGE Speed Racer fan. I grew up watching the Speed Racer anime on tv growing up. And when I saw the movie I was immediately in love with it. I showed my gf at the time, and was so giddy and she said that it was the worst movie she had ever seen. And 99% of the world agreed. But, I have always stayed a loyal fan! Glad you enjoyed it more now :)
My big one that I've changed on is Man of Steel. I don't know if I was just in a bad mood or what when I saw that movie, but I came out of the theater absolutely despising that movie and held to it for years. After years of hearing others sing its praises and actually enjoying the 3 hour edition of Batman v Superman, I went back and re-watched it and actually really like it.
Hele slechte film geen magie geen gevoel achterlijk stom geweld!
Man of Steel very bad movie no magic no feeling no mening
Man of Steel is honestly sooo underrated.
Man of Steel bad movie no magic, no feeling,no, meaning!
@@geertpeels11242 years I’m pretty sure everyone forgot this triogly
Thank you for making this Chris. I see you appreciate certain aspects in movies more than you used to as you're getting more involved in the process of filmmaking
The problem with a lot of critic reviews is they're usually on a deadline, meaning they can't digest a movie for that long and they're forced to go with their gut instinct. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but like you said, people can change their minds... for better or worse.
I never realized that. I've seen so many reviews where I'm like "what? What the fuck are you talking about? Where did that come from?", but never once did I think that their reviews were on a deadline. I just always assumed the reviews came AFTER they watched the movie again.
It is a 2 or 3 hr movies. I know game journalist have to rush because of deadline but it is not really a problem for movies.
@@travisbickle4360yeah
It happens all the time
I'd say the best thing that can be said about the prequels is they can be fixed with a lot of tweeking and the worst about sequels is the best way to fix it is do away with the entire structure and start over from scratch.
If being on the internet for the past decade has taught me anything it's that changing your opinion on virtually anything - especially on movies/shows - is generally considered a sign of weakness. In fact many tend to argue that the more radical you are in expressing your thoughts/opinions on stuff online the more clout you get.
I grew up adoring the Sam Rami Spider-Man trilogy and the Star Wars prequels. Spider-Man 3 and The Attack of the Clones were two of my favorite movies period. As I get older, the flaws become more and more apparent, though those movies will always be special to me. And yes, while a lot of that is nostalgia, I genuinely find the movies to be extremely enjoyable, and feel like they get way too much hate. Thanks for the video Chris, I like the direction that your channel is heading :)
Spider-Man 3 was always a mixed bag in my opinion
I didnt like the first Blade Runner the first time. After several rewatches i love it.
That makes a lot of sense, tbh. It's a lot to take in.
Which cut did you see?
Might happen for me but I love 2049 more.
The prequels were definitely my star wars. I was obsessed with the movies, the toys, the merchandise, all of it. The prequels, the raimi spider man trilogy, and the michael bay transformers were basically my childhood.
Literally
You put it very well, I'm exactly the same case! They were the best thing ever! Prequels stunned me with the space adventure and lightsabers, and Raimi spiderman was the first super hero movie I've ever watched thst got me into Marvel. The live action transformers was also the coolest thing ever, and that shaped my love for the transformers, but only the live action one not the cartoons.
On that same note, because I grew up with Raimi spiderman I still do not like the new spiderman. Toby's spiderman is so memorable I still feel weird that we went from college part time photographer to a lost highschool kid that needs a father's guidance
@@junruihe8647 same here for the raimi spiderman movies
Seriously the micheal bay films were your childhood ?
For me, the movie that I had a major shift on, was V for Vendetta. That actually kind of spurred me to try out films that I normally wouldn't have seen, or got a lot of flak from the audience/critics. I remember going to see it in the theaters when it first released, and I was REALLY still frustrated with the Wachowskis about the Matrix 2&3. I remember being at a matinee of V, by myself, and just being SO annoyed with how talky it was. It just felt like sooo much monologuing and pretentiousness, that I audibly growled to myself in frustration
But then, fast forward like a decade later, and I'm randomly thinking of scenes from V, and thinking to myself "Yeah, that was a good scene." I'd find myself pulling them up on YT to watch and enjoy. And it was scene after scene. And at one point I just kind of sat there and asked myself "Wait...DO I actually hate this film? Because I seem to enjoy a LOT of the scenes....huh." So I rewatched it in full, and REALLY enjoyed it. Like I genuinely feel I just had the wrong mindset when I first saw it. I brought in way too much baggage from the previous films by the same team, and also I think just age, time, and life has altered my perspective in a lot of ways, that made me appreciate the film a lot more than on first viewing.
Same, I HATED it when I saw it in the cinema, recently watched at home and LOVED it!!!
The same thing happened to me for Children of Men.... Saw it when I was a young teenager and walked out before it ended 😅.... Now I think it's a masterpiece!
@@davyboy9397 I really enjoyed Children of Men, so much so that I actually bought that one on DVD, which is just not something I do very often. But yeah I can appreciate how it might not sit well for a lot of people. And, considering how badly it did upon release, you weren't alone in your dislike of it xD
Saw it for the first time recently and the only part I didn't love was Portman's accent.
I personally always saw the genius of the film. But I do remember when watching the trailers thinking it looked dumb as fuck and was ripping off the Matrix. Then i watched it and it blew me away. It's also became slightly prophetic in our modern era as the major forces of the world so subtlety embraces a little fascism and we have a virus pillaging the world.
I love these kind of videos! I hope Chris makes more of these in the future!
I like to compare Star Wars: The Last Jedi and Spiderman 3 a lot because they have a lot of similarities. The best scenes in both movies are incredible; however, some of the casting and decisions made for both movies are questionable. Unfortunately the bad scenes ruin the movie for most people, but you can't help and appreciate the good scenes.
I think it's a silly comparison because SM3 is generally considered bad while TLJ is critically adored but divisive among fans
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep TLJ got a lot of hate actually.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep No it's not. TLJ is absolutely hated and is used in thumbnail videos for drama UA-cam channels.
Last Jedi is trash through and through
@Nooneinparticular987 No offense, but many people would disagree with you though. A lot people especially did not like how Luke was portrayed in this film. Other criticisms include the comedy, and some of the characters like Holdo.
Your reasons for liking the prequel trilogy kinda also sum up why I love The Last Jedi. Yes, there’s a lot of dumb stuff in it, but it just feels so distinct and auteur-driven compared to most other blockbusters that I hold it in such high regard.
While I don't really like the sequels as a whole, I will say that Last Jedi is probably the best one of them. It does have a flawed plot structure, some very questionable story choices and way too much slapstick, but it's just visually so much more stunning than the others and you can feel the vision behind it. And as much as people hate the depiction of Luke (and I agree that the reason for him being that way was stupid), Mark Hamill just did such a perfect job acting it out. 7 and 9 are just so bland and soulless in comparison.
Freakin' agree. It's the only of the Star Wars Disney movies that i rewatch constantly. I hope in the near future doesn't deserve that hate from the fans
Not sure of he said he likes it. Just respects it more. Also He really liked the force awakens and the last jedi when they came out
I’ve always loved the last Jedi. The bad stuff doesn’t bother me too much because the good stuff really hits home with me.
I’d love to go see “Spider-Man: No Way Home” with Chris! I’ve a feeling he’s gonna love this movie.
Recently for me i’ve changed my opinion tremendously on Ad Astra, it’s a beautiful movie about a man masking his pain in not knowing his father but also trying to live up to what his father was. Undeserved hate.
Need to see that film after you said this
Chris is having a DADDY vibe already.
Speedracer is a really fun movie…except when the little brother shows up
i agree with you, but to be honest he was such an improvement over the version in the anime that it didnt even bother me, but if you haven't seen the original than yeah hes just insufferable
Speed Racer is one movie that I’d love to get on UHD. I can just skip the Spritle sections real quick. 😅
Sprital was annoying But I think he was suppose to be lol
I remember watching that movie and wondering why people hated it so much. I thought it was cool.
@@commandershepard485 I took him as the spastic character that kept young kids entertained. The problem is that his scenes felt so geared toward kids in all the worst ways that it made me question who the movie was really aimed at.
This is a kickass sweater to start the season with, I thank you 🙏🏽
I really love the Phantom Menace. I think some of the theatricality and silliness of the prequels was originally in the series in some way. The prequels have enhanced the sense of scale and diversity of this fantastic world. The emphasis on politics brought history closer to reality and made conflicts stronger and deeper. Little Anakin from "The Phantom Menace" never seemed to me badly played. Maybe it's nostalgia, because for the first time I watched the movie around Anakin's age. It was very easy for me to empathize with him. Even if Jar Jar seems annoying to someone, he is still a memorable character with his unique charisma.
Chris my man, I need to put this Amazon prime film in your radar. “Sardar Udham [Singh]” tells the true story of a Sikh freedom fighter and the massacre that took place in Punjab during a time of British rule. This film deserves more attention from western audiences. The film isn’t being pushed for Oscar consideration because of how it negatively depicts the British. I’d love to hear your thoughts on one of the best films of the year, but ultimately I just hope u watch it. Thank you.
Don't bother, man. He doesn't care about bollywood. It is up to your film industry to choose a good film for oscars. There is nothing he can do about it
Right off the rip I remember you reviewed Amazing Spiderman 2 twice because you got over a cold and felt "forgiving" so gave it a good review. Then went back and tore it up.
Non related but now I look at Chris and I'm like "OMG he's a dad"
So glad to hear your opinion on SM3. Although I always loved it, I see the flaws that people mention but honestly I'd rather have a movie that aims for the stars and land flat in some areas than a movie that follow the same goddamn formula that every other movie. I also agree with your thoughts on Equlibrium. I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was really good. But I can see how someone would dislike it for being similar to The Matrix.
Yeah I agree
The Star Wars prequels for all their flaws do the one thing that the sequels could not(though Last Jedi tried at least), the prequels expanded and enriched the universe and lore of Star Wars.
"the prequels expanded and enriched the universe and lore of Star Wars" - i couldn't disagree more (and wish i could go back in time and stop myself from ever watching them OR the sequels)....the Force and the Jedi used to be wonderous mysterious and mystical when i was a kid in the 80s (those monologues of Obiwan and Yoda explaining the Force to Luke are just SO good!)....then i found out in Phantom Menace having the Force is a f^cking medical condition. SO lame. Sometimes less is more.
Unfortunately expanding and enriching does not make a movie good. And people will still say the prequels are better movies than the sequels. When in reality, the prequels are only better than one of the sequels IMO.
All my friends prefer the prequels but when I ask why they say 3 things:
1. It has a single continuous plot through all 3 films
2. Good for the lore of Star Wars
3. They quote the memes
Of these 3 points, only the first one really matters, and though I agree it’s true, I personally think that the story is not good in the prequels, so who cares that it’s continuous. Just my take though, wbu?
I believe the prequels are really good. (Excluding attack of the clones.) They each did their part, and did their part well.
I would like to address some issues about Phantom. The whole medaclorian thing (if I spelled that right.)
People really misunderstand that scene, and I mean REALLY misunderstand. Jinn was talking about how these things called medaclorians dwell within all living things, he also has a device to detect the medaclorians that are in anakins blood. Ghost hunters use devices to detect if there is a presence in the area. It's still that spiritual thing everyone fell head over heels for from the original trilogy. Technology in star wars is really high tech, so having a device that can detect if you have a big amount of the force makes sense. Why isn't it in the og trilogy, since that takes place after the prequels? Probably because there isn't anymore jedi running the show. Or, more realistically, George didn't think he'd get to the point of fame where he made a prequel trilogy, so he had more ideas for that.
I have noticed that people who grew up with star wars of their generation typically favorite that generation. (I.e. Growing up in the 70s? You most likely love the og trilogy over the new stuff. Or growing up in the late 90s to early 2000s means you probably enjoyed the prequel trilogy.) I am guilty of this as well, considering I was born in the late 90s.
The prequel trilogy have soul, the sequel trilogy do not. The sequel trilogy feels more like a reboot than a continuation of the previous movies.
The story for the prequel trilogy (minus attack of the clones) is actually good. Very underrated. Anakin acting like a brat? He has no dad, and the closest thing he had was Qui gon who died in the first one. (Not Obi wan since they consider each other as brothers, i.e. revenge of the sith.)
I will admit, the "love" relationship in the prequel trilogy is very cringey and annoying to deal with. So if that is the reason why people don't like them, I definitely get that.
Lastly, these are movies. They are made for fun and for the viewers. If you don't like one or some of them, that's fine, there are other areas to enjoy star wars. (Clone wars, games, books, etc.)
If someone likes something you don't, it's probably because they have their own opinion.
@@RP_Williams midichlorians are not the force. People often conflate the two. It's basically just an explanation for why living beings can use the force and droids cannot. It also makes sense as to why Darth Vader's force potential was limited due to his wounds and the suit. He's still immensely powerful though. Also explains why someone like Greivous who only has a few organs left of himself cannot use the force either.
@@aarongutierrez7705 We're talking about an entire franchise here. Sure individual movies can be enjoyable without tying into a wider plot, but the point of a sequel is to further explore the established world and its story. And I'd argue the prequels have good stories burried underneath the bad dialogue and clunky storytelling whereas the sequels only mask their unoriginality with good acting and cinematography. Like, Episode 8 is probably the best looking Star Wars film with some really great acting (even though I personally dislike the amount of slapstick humor), but the plot is in my opinion as clunky as episode 2 if not more. And don't even get me started on the mess that was the rise of skywalker.
Also "Good for the lore of Star Wars" is absolutely important, world building is a major aspect of story telling, especially in sci-fi and fantasy settings where the whole appeal is to explore a different world.
I've seen prequels at young age, LOVED them and always defended them for 20 years. Glad you changed your opinion. Other movies in the video are fun too, welcome to real movie appreciation club)
I remember watching Spider-Man 3 in the theater and it’s one of my favorite experiences. My dad bursted out laughing at the whole dancing/walking sequence with emo maguire. While it’s a letdown in some aspects from the masterpiece that is Spider-Man 2, it’s a damn enjoyable movie and a good ending for the trilogy imo!
Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith are my two favorite Star Wars movies. I love the ending to Episode 1. The very final scene with Anakin looking at Padme and the score is beautiful.
I've softened on the Prequels as well. The originals will always be my favorite, and I have my issues with the new trilogy but I still love 2 of them, the prequels are simply bad movies. But I love them. They are Star Wars. What made me change my mind about them wasn't The Rise Of Skywalker (a film which I have never seen nor do I ever intend to see) but Solo. Never before had a star wars movie felt so lifeless, unoriginal, and boring. Colorless. Bland. This movie made me love the prequels. Because despite the prequel's many flaws, at least they were a vision, a bright, colorful vision.
I actually think Solo was the best of all the Disney Star Wars films (besides The Force Awakens)....minus the dim/dark colours and lighting, the stupid 12 parsec thing, and Han speaking Wookie, it was a competent 'heist film'. I wouldn't call it a good film, but it's better than what everyone makes it out to be....at least i actually felt something about the characters (unlike the totally forgettable and flat characters in Rogue One). That said, i'd just as soon that Disney never ever made a Star Wars film.
Flawed it may be, but if you weren't grinning like a 5 year old during the Kessel Run sequence, then I dunno if it's the film at fault. Also Solo and Chewie's chemistry was perfect. Plenty of chuckles. It has FAR more authentic star wars feels than say Rogue One or the Prequels.
The Prequels are not bad films. They were actually GROUND BRAKING. No movie was ever done on a complete green screen back in the day. People these days have 0 clue of the cinematic achievements the Star Wars films made under George Lucas.
The prequels had a solid story, they had a bad director unlike in the OG trilogy. The actors did the job as he wanted to.
I hated Phantom Menace cuz Jar Jar simply didn’t work for me. But loved everything else.
Attack of the Clones had a bad romance but loved everything else.
Revenge of the Sith became my favorite Star Wars film over the OG trilogy. Still enjoy watching it today.
The New Sequel Trilogy were horrible, had 0 sense of direction and purpose to the story. They make no sense at all.
@@powerhouse884 They were objectively badly made on nearly every level EXCEPT for having a coherent overall plot. The direction is amateur hour soap opera, the acting is atrocious and wooden (again due to the director) the plot in the details is nonsense.the amount of cringe is off the charts. It doesn't mean people cant enjoy them or love them, but there ARE objective things in filmaking, directorial skills, shot compositions and so on, and GL was not the person to be directing. And his scripts needed multiple new drafts with a LOT of input from pro writers, just like the originals did. The entire greenscreen thing has been detrimental to films and actors ever since, just look at the in interview with Ewan back then where he says its awful. it looked mostly awful even back then.
Yeah, the sequels are still bad, all their problems are still there. But it took the sequel trilogy to teach me this lesson : you can have real sets, practical effects, good actors having a world to reacs, cool designs, nice fight choreography and all that cinematographic toolbox down... but it ain't worth crap if you don't have a story to tell with characters one can relate to. It is shocking how bad this perfectly produced nothing burger feels to me.
A lot of these are my favourites of their series especially movies like The Godfather 3 and The Phantom Menace. Good to see them getting recognition especially talking about artists getting their own vision on screen.
I think 'The Godfather Pt. III' would fare a tad better if it was regarded as an epilogue, as it was originally intended. That helped me in appreciating it more.
That fact that it has the most abrupt, wet fart of an ending doesn't help either.
Did you guys not see the new cut of Godfather 3? "Godfather Coda" the ending is even different.
For me the Star Wars prequel and sequel trilogies boil down to this:
- the prequels were a good story often poorly told with bad acting.
- the sequels were a bad story often well told with good acting.
I’m not sure which I prefer, but probably neither.
The prequels actually have depth
Bruh, that's stupid as hell
The prequels will STILL BE BAD, just because the sequels have been dropped doesn't mean the prequels are good. And yes, I have critical opinion on the Disney SW films.
Yeah
@@jml_filmes some people might disagree with you on stars wars revenge with the sith
@@trevorthornley8835 I think the prequels still have more heart. It's just George Lucas's fantasy come to life. versus "Let's make as much money as humanely possible"
Ive definitely come around on the Sandman scenes in Spider-Man 3. Theyre all great.
Sandman's 'birth' is an Oscar winning shortfilm.
I’m a 2000’s baby so the prequel trilogy WAS MY Star Wars. And with looking back and trying to find what I appreciated about the prequels so much as a kid, it was mainly because of how well fleshed out the world building was.
The OG trilogy could exist by itself as a vacuum, but as bad the prequels were, they were so great at creating a universe that made me feel like it continued to exist even after the movies already ended. It got me as a little kid interested in lore, in memorizing names of obscure characters and learning obscure historical facts within that universe just like a history buff would study actual world history. It was detailed enough yet open enough to allow my child self to imagine new stories and scenarios within that universe, to make my own characters and pieces of lore while I reenact them with my Lego mini-figures. And for that reason it holds a special place in my heart despite the fact that there are so many things in the movie that are damn near objectively bad
This comment perfectly sums up Gen Z Star Wars childhoods :)
I have been a loyal defender of Speed Racer since it's release in 2008 when I was a kid in high school. For years, almost every single person I talked to about it said it was a terrible movie. Now slowly but surely it has been getting the recognition it deserves and I couldn't be happier. I'm glad your opinion has changed on it as well!! I feel a satisfying amount of vindication from all this lol
I've got nothing but love for that movie🙌🏻🙌🏻 It's one of my absolute favorites. It looks like a silly, over-the -top flick because of its visuals (which are amazing), but it's got *a lot* of heart, and it's more than clear by end of the first sequence when Speed steps off the gas in order to not break his brother's record. I can never watch it without tearing up a little.
@@Olderaccount17 I hated the both Matrix sequels, but the Wachowskis have made some great movies, Speed Racer is definitely one of them. Cloud Atlas was also great.
I loved speed racer. I'll admit when I saw the previews I was like this is going to be mess. I was very wrong. 😂
Yeah, it's awesome to see a lot of people turn around and start to enjoy the movie because the movie is weird but a really good time, especially the ending. Hulk 2003 too.
The Star Wars prequel was my introduction to Star Wars. I loved Phantom Menace. I loved Clone Wars (Especially Tartatovski's animated series. ) I loved Revenge of the Sith. It hurt my soul to see the movies I grew up with being butchered by critics and trolls, or basically anyone with a microphone and a camera. I do appreciate the idea of people softening their opinion of the movies so that I can remember them fondly without fear of someone forcing their opinion on me.
Opinions change I guess
Hello, Father Chris.
Great to see that fatherhood is a great look on you.
As for me, it's rare that a movie makes me change my opinion than previously.
I love this video. Miss where Chris can be 100% real with us, not that he’s never done that, but I found this video sweet and heartwarming. We love you Chris
Peter: “You like killing old men in cold blood?”
Sandman: “Whats it mean to you?”
*Train horn*
Peter: “EVERYTHING!”
Gives me goosebumps every time.
“Good riddance…” 🥲
"What does it matter to you, anyway?"*
2 of these 3 lines are quoted inaccurately, but good effort, i guess.
Yeah
Finally we can learn to appreciate Episode I. That's one of my favorite Star Wars movies ever. You can't deny how much original and raw idea was put into that movie and its weird creativeness is why I love it. It has the best choreography in lightsaber duels and best OST.
Interesting but yeah I agree the lightsaber battles were my favorite
When I was younger watching equilibrium, I just thought about it as an action movie. But when revisiting it, there's a lot of great plot and emotion to go along with all the action. Really worth watching again
I would love to see your original reviews for the amazing Spiderman movies because I want to see how your opinion changed over time
Ngl I enjoyed TASM 2 - it has dumb moments but that’s the last time I genuinely felt like I was watching a Spider-Man movie - apart from Spiderverse
I will always dislike the first one just because of how much I hated the Uncle Ben death. That's one of the dumbest choices I've ever seen in a superhero movie.
@@coolnerdlll6053 that’s not dumb. That’s literally what happens in the comics. You’re the problem with that movie. Not the movie itself. Congrats, you have won the most stupid reply of the day. Possibly the week. That’s also what pushes Peter to be spiderman and to fight crime. No uncle Ben death, Peter doesn’t get the idea to become spiderman
The Amazing Spider-Man movies look so much better these days (compared to the MCU ones). They're not perfect but JUST like Chris said: they were at least standalone movies with a beginning, middle and end. They track. They make sense. Good actors. Flawed but not awful scripts. Action informed by plot and not vice versa.
@@natechenry I know it's in the comics, that's not the problem. The problem is that the reason for Peter not stopping the robber is really stupid and lazy, and then Ben gets himself killed. The Raimi version crushed that scene.
i agree on the star wars prequels - they had a clear vision, a clear story, and fairly satisfying payoff. The bones of those movies were solid - and it laid a foundation for the great Clone Wars series. The Clone Wars era is now my favorite era.
By comparison, it's very clear the sequels have no point, no plan, and is just a muddled mess.
This has to be one of your best videos. Please please please do talk about why big movies are not made anymore and how silence is used. I love learning these things from you. Thanks!
I think your opinion could really change on Tenet. Each viewing has a different experience and the scale and realistic nature of a bond like film make it so amazing to me
Srs tenet might be his best work if u understand the movie
I keep saying tenet is not my favorite Nolan film. Yet it’s the one I watched the most.
I loved Tenet!
The Clone Wars made me like the prequels more and seeing the behind the scenes for them also made me see them in a different way in the eyes of George which is what I like about them most now is all the creativity and new that was introduced. Nostalgia plays a role in my enjoyment as well.
Tenet: The more times you watch, the better it becomes, the more duplicates you find 😂
Tenet is such an underrated film
Tenet wasn’t easy to digest and is not accessible but the more you watch it the more you adore the concept and of what is going on
Tenet was trash
@@vivalapaul Tenet was good not great but good it has 70 on Rotten tomatoes and 76 on Audience Score
@@sakuragi1062 why does RT score matter?
I love this video, one of your best. I agree with everything you said and your commentary on The Phantom Menace and George Lucas makes a lot of sense. No, the prequels weren't great, but story wise they have a lot to say and I love seeing the back story to this amazing universe Lucas created.