Thanks for the video. Have you tested at how long distance you can keep the mic from your head and still get good quality audio? I have been really trying to research this thing. I'm thinking whether I should buy a shotgun mic or would DJI Mic be reasonably good
Only thing that's not mentioned that IS worth mentioning is that some of the features Jeven mentions are new features. I hadn't updated my DJI Mic firmware since purchased...'cause I had no problems. I'm guess sooo many people who have had this for better than a year haven't looked for an update. Features since they first came out are: REC Stop Lock Auto Record LED Brightness (both RX and TX) Auto RX Power Off Option The main menu I'd also altered and easier to go to the RX settings. Thanks Jeven! Great Vid, this really helps explain some settings and would have saved me hours of trial and error.
@@jonnanieminen8848 i taped the dji to my friends mic who's in a band and the audio came out excellent. the only issue im having is that it records in 30 minute increments
Just a quick tip for folks synching their backup recording in post using Final Cut Pro : - Import your video and your audio file, then select "create multicam clip". This will usually instantly synch your audio with your video. Saved me a lot of time!
I watched your beginners tutorial. I was specifically interested in the sound settings (mono, stereo, mono s), technicalities aside, I found the most intuitive way to set the sound up to your desired channel/setting was simply to plug in some external headphones to use as monitors while you are setting up. That gives instant feedback while you play with the settings. Quicker than recording various clips, uploading to your computer, trying to ascertain what speaker the sound is coming out from. This method gives you realtime feedback. Great video by the way. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent job, 1st-Class production!! (jealous, btw). I can give insight for those asking about a Sony A7iv in which you MUST boost the Rx gain a lot (at least +10), if you want to keep the Sony's Audio Level as low as possible; seemingly every pro-audio expert's advice. I have a very strong "speaker's" voice, and yet, my Tx really needs to be at +6 to even tap the Yellow. Hope this helps.
So helpful! I purchased a DJI mic about 3-4 months ago and have been using it with my iPhone. My Sony A7C came in the mail today and lo and behold this video pops up which reminded me that I needed a refresher on how to use the the DJI mic with an actual camera. Thanks Jeven! Great info.
It works fine with the iPhone? I read on other videos a lot of people were having problems with sound quality when trying to use their iPhone .something about only recording in mono?
I recently bought this system, tomorrow I will record the first interview. For me, you are doing the right things at the right time 😀Thank you very much 🤗
There’s also a new firmware update which fixes bugs and adds new features; ability to turn off the LED indicator, auto off after 30 mins when not recording, etc.
You really are good at what you do. Your explanation is amazing for a person like me who is learning about all this. Thank you! This is my go to channel for all things camera equipment.
Excellent tutorial as usual. You teach in a way which a three year old can understand. Without it sounding as though you are talking in a way which a three year old can understand 😊
You just saved me so much time! Thank you. I can’t wait to use these things. Also they allow you to turn the lights off now. I wonder if you had something to do with that.
Great video I'm glad to see DJI adding features. It absolutely wipes the floor of the competition. I noticed from the audio 52 teardown that both the transmitters and receiver have a powerful NXP SoC. What id like to see is some different recording options like the ability to record in compressed audio such as aac or MP3. Like wise I'd like to see lossless formats like FLAC. The processor has more than enough capability for this. Some effects would be nice too like pad maybe reverb? Again the SoC has more than enough power to do this, the pad for example would be very hand to have.
Tbh I bought the dji mic shortly after watching your first video. I wonder if you could help me with something.... I am going to be running a game show on my channel where I have a host and two teams of 2 people, so 5 people in total on stage. I was planning on use the dji mic on each person so there'd be 5 recordings. Of course I'm going to play around with different settings but based on that info what would you say would be the best settings in regards to mono/stereo or do you think it would be better to just hit record on all transmitters and have them all set to mono? I have a feeling I'm going to run into a lot of problems so any advice from you or anyone reading this would be very helpful. Thanks for the videos mate by the way I've been following them for a while and they have helped me out, very clear and to the point 😎
Grat video! FYI, you don;t need to duplicate the audio in FCP to be able to edit the two channels independently. You can reveal audio components for the clip and independently control the audio levels on each audio track without having a detached audio track.
Jeven, got these DJI a year back and your 2 videos were a great help in getting started. And they do work well. I have recently added a becktex preamp to connect the DJI to and then the Beacktek and then the Sony A7iii and then out to OBS. Starting to experiment wit the gain staging - any suggestions? Thanks
12:32 On an iPhone, there’s a work around to get stereo input. Just use a female usb c to Lightning and use the usb c attachment on the receiver. I got a pack of 3 for 6 dollars on Amazon. It works like a charm.
Hello! Great video...question that I can't see to find an answer on: Does the dji mic protect against clothing rustling? With my past lapel mics that rubbed up against clothing, you can hear the rustling of the cloths which would impact the main audio.
I love this system! I went through this long recording session doing exactly what you suggest trying to determine best gain settings. For home to edit... i didn't have the receiver ALL the way in the USB C plug of my phone!! 🙄 Still not sure i have it dialed in. When i record with just the transmitter it's way to quiet! Haven't figured that out yet. I do outdoor stuff like you do so i use one for vlogging and the other for ambient noise!
This is by far THE most useful video on these microphones, I have ever seen. Just to confirm though if I am filming two subjects, e.g Bride and Groom at a wedding using both microphones I want the camera to be in stereo? I also edit in FCPX, so I can edit both audio tracks separately?
Great video! It happened to record and mono is there a way to separate the two receivers onto separate audio channels, or are they baked in to the footage for good?
Super informative and expansive, thank you. I wish you can expand more on using phones or iPads. Is it better to use only the transmitters then apply them in the edit or to use the receiver? And if the latter, how and what’re the best flow for that?
well just used the dji mic on mono w/out safety. the djm was connected to a mixer which the mixer had an input to a speaker microphone similar to a lavilier. then I had the djm receiver hooked up to IOS ipad device with an app that connected via wirelessly to a fm radio station. I had the receicver settings to max and the transmitter almost maxed but I new that the mixer needed just to be lowered and the peak limiter set to -3 or -1 and had the output to the radio fm sounded well... anyway...since the one djm transmitter was used and hooked up to the podium microphone when people in the audience was asking questions they were not in front of the mic hence low volume. Next time (please make suggestions) i want to have both djm transmitters on...one for the guest speaker and one to go up to person with a extension monopod (djm transmitter 2 attached to the end) and put closer and in the direction of the person in audience asking the question Hoping this will help out for maxmizing audio for djm transmitter output to djm receiver...
At 08:50 you're talking about duplicating the audio track, how is that done? I've done a recording in stereo, I've used both mic's which are producing different audio levels and then I've followed your instructions by altering the audio to dual mono but I can't work out how to then individually adjust each audio channel as you are doing in the video? Can anyone help please?
I've had my mic for a while now and for some reason I started getting this staticky noise, "eeeeeeeehhhhhh" I have no idea where it came from. Can you advise me on what it may be?
@@JevenDoveyMy point was: I don’t feel confident in my abilities when it comes to capturing great audio. Your video was comprehensive and will help many.
hello I bought the mic 2 too but am confused. I see that you also play the guitar, so here I bought this microphone just to record a rock concert, to try, I plug in my stereo at home and I play the music a little loudly to see the behavior the result is disastrous because when listening to the rendering, the sound is very low, so what I do is go up to 12 db on the transmitters and also on the receiver, so all the way up and there it goes a little better but not great. so who tried to record them when you play an instrument? could you help me? THANKS
this was a fantastically helpful video. I totally had the wrong understanding of how the safety/backup tracks were recorded and now it all makes sense lol. Thank you!
Make sure you check out my beginners guide as well. That video goes over every button on the system and this one focuses on the process to get the best audio
I recently purchased this mic specifically for recording in loud environments like clubs(im a dj). After testing it at a club last night, I found that it struggled to handle the loud music(recording sound distorded). I attempted to adjust the problem by lowering the gain on the receiver, but this didn't resolve the issue. I couldn't find an option to reduce the signal strength sent from the mic to the receiver. Is there a setting I might be missing? The microphone was paired with an Insta360 X3 camera. The issue seems to be with the receiver's levels, as it consistently hits the red zone, indicating it's receiving too strong a signal. Any suggestions on how to better manage this setup would be appreciated
Jeven, thanks for this great Video. I must be having a real DUMB day, but can I ask you a question please, apologies in advance!? I want to have two people using one Mic each, not an interview, but walking around talking etc. I understand the approach you have described to be able to split the recordings in post, which is what I want. Now, I like to record locally to each device and I have them set to auto record the second you take them out of the case. Am I right in saying, if I use the Stereo mode, but with each Mic going to a separate channel for post editing, and the Receiver is connected to the Stereo jack on my A7RV, that I will also have the local file from each device + a Stereo track with one mic on the left and one on the right channel. That way I can have a backup etc? Am I right here? So I could sync audio from the internal recordings on each mic on two separate tracks, to the stereo track recording from the received version of the audio track? My goodness .. I am getting a headache just writing this !!! If you understand what I am asking, I would greatly appreciate a confirmation if I am right? thanks man !!
Do you have any idea how to change the file naming and date/time setup in the mics? Deciphering the file names is a major pain as there is no logic to the names...and my mics are somehow set on conflicting dates/times so matching clips in the download is a nightmare.
If you NEVER format the Tx internal memory, you run rhe risk of eventually ending up with issues with your recordings (maybe). Should be done every now and then!
@@JevenDovey the intermittent on and off problem also happened with this Dji Mic? I have my Saramonic Blink 500 B2 always experienced that frustrating problem when it comes to record in dense RF environment such as car exhibition
I been testing this too I been using zero on the transmitter and plus 2 on the receiver but I walk outdoors and sometimes it’s windy I vlog walking and it’s been the best settings so far with my iPhone , but idk if there is a better option but I been doing this and my audio has been coming very nice
Ok so i watched this veideo and understood more, i mainly use a go pro 11 and media mod with the dji mic, to be able to get a good level like yours -12 to -6 i had to change the reciever to -12 and the mic to +9 to be able to get a good level when recording from the mic, the go pro 11 does not have gain level adjustments, do this sound right to you?
Has anyone experienced a massive drop off in gain using the DJI transmitter as a standalone recorder? The first 10 minutes may be the +6 gain that I have it programmed for, but then suddenly the audio will be barely audible.
Yes the kit comes adapters that you can use to connect to lightning based iPhones and usb c type phones. You can also use the kit as a wireless audio interface into your computer.
I'm a pro-audio guy. Pretty good explanation, but to clarify gain staging, the steps ought to be 1) set the transmitter gain so it is in the range you desire (probably just into the yellow as an average), 2) set the receiver gain so that it is also averaging just into the yellow, 3) set the camera input gain so it is averaging just into the yellow. This is common gain staging technique, and once you've done it a few times, it's really easy to do on-site and on-the-fly. Every scenario is going to be different, so it really ought to be done for each shoot. As for the low-cut, 150hz is a little on the high side, so I would generally suggest leaving the low-cut off and adding a filter in post if it's needed. For reference, most audio consoles that have a low-cut button (and no adjustable frequency) have it somewhere between 80 hz and 120 hz.
Could I ask a specific question : I will be recording some shots in which there will be chainsaw use. So, medium / loud audio while saw is idling, then very loud audio when the saw is running full throttle. Are the "safety" channels sufficient for this kind of recording or should something different be done? Just curious.
@@SouthernItalyHomestead Unfortunately, the answer is, "it depends". I suspect that the safety channel will be a sufficient differential, but maybe a creative edit where the sound of the chain saw is covered by music may be a good option if it doesn't work out.
Something worth mentioning, the effect of reciever gain on dji mic does not display on its screen, or the monitoring headphone pluged into dji mic reciever. Only the camera audio level bar or headphone pluged into camera is affected by reciever gain.
Best advice is to lower the camera gain as far as possible, because that's generally where noise is introduced the most (especially with Canon cameras). Then you have only TX and RX to worry about.
I just stumbled upon this comment, how low you mean, if its 0 doesn't record audio even with mic on, if its 1 its super low. I had my camera mic gain at 23 and the dii transmitter at 0 and picked up so much background noise at a convention event, was pretty pissed.
@@KN-mi7mh You have to try with different values to find the sweet spot, but keep the camera gain value as low as you can while still getting a decent signal. There should be some kind of audio meter in the camera to show you the level being picked up, so use that to keep around -6 db max.
@@KN-mi7mh i'll give you my personal example, i usually work with canon camcoders and set the camera volume between 15 and 20, auto gain is too high, from there, i set the rx gain in a -5 and tx gain +4, works fine at loud enviroments, i usually do live streaming of youth football so the crowds are very noisey here in Mexico, but you have to sometimes play with the mic values depending on how loud the backround noise is, if it´s too loud i go down in the rx at a -6.
Hey Jeven. I do dentistry full time and I listen to your videos while im filling teeth. I listen to them all the way through and im unable to skip the ads so I hope im helping your insights. Please keep it up. I dream of cutting the cord from work and making money on UA-cam. Someday
Exceptional video, Jeven. Lots of invaluable information, clearly explained. Kudos to you! Two small things I noticed: At 5:56, after talking about the 6db pad on the Mono with Safety track, you say that the backup recording is "-20db lower." I knew what you meant--that's it's actually -6db--but it might cause confusion to some. The other thing is something I just learned moments ago on another excellent UA-cam tutorial--after you update to the new firmware released in January (Vers. 2.00.72.87), you can now completely turn off the LEDs on the transmitters while using them. Granted, this is not about sound, but I thought you might like to know. All in all though, this was an outstanding tutorial and I'm grateful you took the time to make it.
Adjusting the audio level at the right level without distortion is not the problem. I've adjusted all three gain settings (transmitter, receiver and Canon M50 camera) to get the best sound (+8 on the transmitter, +5 on the receiver and as low as possible on the camera seemed to work the best). The problem is the sound just sucks. I can't really describe it other than it just sounds cheap and not real. I couldn't even tweak it enough in Resolve to be acceptable. Taking the sound from just the transmitter is a little better than running it through the entire set-up. Being on the talent side of the glass, not the tech side, I've recorded 1,100 movie sound tracks as a French horn player. Take it for whatever it's worth. Disappointed with this product and all the hype. The videos are good, Jeven. My only criticism is maybe just get to the point a little faster.
You can try buying a separate lav mic to attach to the transmitter , it sounds better than the onboard microphone on the transmitter. Hope this helps !
I find that with the mic connected to the camera, the sound is muffled. I totally forgot about the stand-alone recording feature it has 💀😭. Being an audiophile, I completely left out that step 🤦🏽♂️.
I set my transmitter gain to +6, and receiver gain to +12 and in FCP the VU meters only hit -12 playing back and that's boosted in FCP by raising the line all the way. DJI mics are recording too low I think.
Its a really amazing product and this is a excellent user guide to get the best audio from it. Personally, I only ever use stand-alone TX'er and then sync it via wav file to my video footage in Davinci Resolve. As Im running most of the time when Im recording, my issue is how to not get the TX to bounce when Im running! As Jeven has pointed out, some clothes are better than others!
Crushing everyone else. Between this and DJI OSMO 3 action cam... that skunky Go Pro (Go Blow) system is sad. I can't even give away my cameras. DJI is the way.
0 DB on the transmitter for interviews/ -4 BD on the receiver / GH5 amps set to almost nothing, like -11 or -10 DB, I believe. Be sure mics (transmitters) are at the same level if they are positioned the same way on talents. A - (or +) 2 BD difference between them will result in a huge and disturbing effect in sound HQ.
THANKS, Jeven! This was very helpful, well done and great info. I have a Sony A7Siii and used the +6dB and 9 on the camera, and it worked PERFECTLY! Thanks again! 😀
Have you found the mic to be quite hot? It sounds like it’s distorting when you say extra loud words in this video. I’m having the same issue with min and I keep having to lower the gain. What transmitter gain are you using?
Thanks. Bought it 3 weeks ago. At first i recorded an Interview and the audio was fine (Just a bit noise, but quickly fixed in Post). Yesterday i tried to shoot a concert. Unfortunately the whole audio clipped and is nearly not useable😬 And i misunderstood the stereo feature...
So if you want to record ambient around the camera. And then get speaking person. Would it be the best to get another stereo mic with independent recorder. And then DJI mic for voice. The oncamera mics are always bad. They just like a flashlights on low end cameras ;) The only camera that has useful embedded mic is the Sony ZV-1 ZV-E10 and so on. Just because you can attach dead cat, and not just two pin holes :)
hi ill try another question i know you must be busy as you didn't reply below. anyway use the dJi for my mc helmet with a rode go lab mic i had a issue as asked below, but i think ive sorted by turning off the auto record. my question n0 2 is when i plug the rx into my go pro and the tx into lav on helmet as i press record on go pro or start rec on quick app the red light does not show upon rx or tx ? but when i return to base its recorded. Same option nobody seems to tell you if i plug the rx into my RC Dji mini pro 3 controller it records but again no red light? WHAT IM asking is IT DOES record as a tx without having to turn on the red record button???????????? Thanks D
Just bought dii to use whilst motorbike vlogging i plug a rode lab II into one of the tx and then connect the RX to my go pro 11 med mod via the supplied cable it all wks BUT !!!!!!! i there any way you can stop the std mic on the TX from picking up audio when the LAV mic is plugged into it? Its seems mad that it picks up audio from both th std mic an sth elav mic at same time but it does? Therefore all i get is wind noise as the std rx is attached to y m/c helmet an dthelav mic is inside my helmet but plug into the std tx unit.. Thanks D
I’m still thinking about getting these. Seems like the best setting for me on gain would be to match it so that I don’t have to change my camera setting between using these or the plug-in mic I use now. But I just do run and gun random vlog type stuff. Seems like this would be great for doing that since the transmitters and receiver are independently adjustable. Thanks for the video!
Watch the complete beginners guide for the DJI MIC: ua-cam.com/video/cgYHsOQXjyk/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video. Have you tested at how long distance you can keep the mic from your head and still get good quality audio? I have been really trying to research this thing. I'm thinking whether I should buy a shotgun mic or would DJI Mic be reasonably good
Only thing that's not mentioned that IS worth mentioning is that some of the features Jeven mentions are new features. I hadn't updated my DJI Mic firmware since purchased...'cause I had no problems. I'm guess sooo many people who have had this for better than a year haven't looked for an update.
Features since they first came out are:
REC Stop Lock
Auto Record
LED Brightness (both RX and TX)
Auto RX Power Off Option
The main menu I'd also altered and easier to go to the RX settings.
Thanks Jeven! Great Vid, this really helps explain some settings and would have saved me hours of trial and error.
@@jonnanieminen8848 i taped the dji to my friends mic who's in a band and the audio came out excellent. the only issue im having is that it records in 30 minute increments
Very Very Good! Thank you for this!
Just a quick tip for folks synching their backup recording in post using Final Cut Pro :
- Import your video and your audio file, then select "create multicam clip". This will usually instantly synch your audio with your video. Saved me a lot of time!
I watched your beginners tutorial. I was specifically interested in the sound settings (mono, stereo, mono s), technicalities aside, I found the most intuitive way to set the sound up to your desired channel/setting was simply to plug in some external headphones to use as monitors while you are setting up. That gives instant feedback while you play with the settings. Quicker than recording various clips, uploading to your computer, trying to ascertain what speaker the sound is coming out from. This method gives you realtime feedback. Great video by the way. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent job, 1st-Class production!! (jealous, btw). I can give insight for those asking about a Sony A7iv in which you MUST boost the Rx gain a lot (at least +10), if you want to keep the Sony's Audio Level as low as possible; seemingly every pro-audio expert's advice. I have a very strong "speaker's" voice, and yet, my Tx really needs to be at +6 to even tap the Yellow. Hope this helps.
So helpful! I purchased a DJI mic about 3-4 months ago and have been using it with my iPhone. My Sony A7C came in the mail today and lo and behold this video pops up which reminded me that I needed a refresher on how to use the the DJI mic with an actual camera. Thanks Jeven! Great info.
It works fine with the iPhone? I read on other videos a lot of people were having problems with sound quality when trying to use their iPhone .something about only recording in mono?
@@Kyle-if4jg i’ve only tried it in mono, solo creator, here. That said, yes, it’s been working for me on iPhone
I recently bought this system, tomorrow I will record the first interview. For me, you are doing the right things at the right time 😀Thank you very much 🤗
We just bought these and DJI doesn't include instructions. This is exactly the kind of video we needed, so thank you!
Just wanted to thank you for making these videos!!! You have no idea how much you’ve helped me!! You’re an inspiration man!!!
FYI I last week I purchased the DJI Mic with the charger case--after watching you vid, so no pressure... But I gotta say, so far it is 100% worth it.
Such a good wireless system!
You just make the best how-to videos, hands down. Many thanks!!
There’s also a new firmware update which fixes bugs and adds new features; ability to turn off the LED indicator, auto off after 30 mins when not recording, etc.
You really are good at what you do. Your explanation is amazing for a person like me who is learning about all this. Thank you! This is my go to channel for all things camera equipment.
Thank you for a wonderful tutorial. It is correctly paced, well illustrated, and clearly spoken.
Thanks for the info. Do you have a vid where you talk about how you edit this audio track so it sounds so crisp like this? Thanks!
The quality of the audio from the mic in that position of your t shirt is unreal. Do you edit the file after recording to improve the sound quality?
Excellent tutorial as usual. You teach in a way which a three year old can understand. Without it sounding as though you are talking in a way which a three year old can understand 😊
I was just wondering why my recorded sound from the (DJI mic) transmitter was so low, and then I found this very useful video. Thanks !
Very detailed and so useful for dji mic users. Thank you always for these intuitive videos 👍
You just saved me so much time! Thank you. I can’t wait to use these things.
Also they allow you to turn the lights off now. I wonder if you had something to do with that.
Great video I'm glad to see DJI adding features. It absolutely wipes the floor of the competition.
I noticed from the audio 52 teardown that both the transmitters and receiver have a powerful NXP SoC. What id like to see is some different recording options like the ability to record in compressed audio such as aac or MP3. Like wise I'd like to see lossless formats like FLAC. The processor has more than enough capability for this.
Some effects would be nice too like pad maybe reverb? Again the SoC has more than enough power to do this, the pad for example would be very hand to have.
Tbh I bought the dji mic shortly after watching your first video. I wonder if you could help me with something....
I am going to be running a game show on my channel where I have a host and two teams of 2 people, so 5 people in total on stage. I was planning on use the dji mic on each person so there'd be 5 recordings. Of course I'm going to play around with different settings but based on that info what would you say would be the best settings in regards to mono/stereo or do you think it would be better to just hit record on all transmitters and have them all set to mono? I have a feeling I'm going to run into a lot of problems so any advice from you or anyone reading this would be very helpful.
Thanks for the videos mate by the way I've been following them for a while and they have helped me out, very clear and to the point 😎
There is so much value in this video :-) and your other videos aswell ! Highly appreciated
Grat video! FYI, you don;t need to duplicate the audio in FCP to be able to edit the two channels independently. You can reveal audio components for the clip and independently control the audio levels on each audio track without having a detached audio track.
I just use the dji mic connect it to a sennheiser MKE 600 for wireless capability and it was great
Excellent tutorial. Thank you so much.
Jeven, got these DJI a year back and your 2 videos were a great help in getting started. And they do work well. I have recently added a becktex preamp to connect the DJI to and then the Beacktek and then the Sony A7iii and then out to OBS. Starting to experiment wit the gain staging - any suggestions? Thanks
I just picked this up. I appreciate the guide. Very good!
great video man.
thank you so much for this guide - man there's so much to this mic setup!
Great video Jeven! This is exactly what I was looking for 👍 I like the style of your videos 👏
Dji nailed it with this build
Such a solid system!
@Jeven Dovey than you for responding. Recent subscriber and have loved your channel
@@serranosmobile Thank You 🙏
12:32 On an iPhone, there’s a work around to get stereo input. Just use a female usb c to Lightning and use the usb c attachment on the receiver. I got a pack of 3 for 6 dollars on Amazon. It works like a charm.
can you link to the ones you bought that you like?
Great video with tons of useful information. Thank you!
Hello! Great video...question that I can't see to find an answer on: Does the dji mic protect against clothing rustling? With my past lapel mics that rubbed up against clothing, you can hear the rustling of the cloths which would impact the main audio.
I love this system! I went through this long recording session doing exactly what you suggest trying to determine best gain settings. For home to edit... i didn't have the receiver ALL the way in the USB C plug of my phone!! 🙄 Still not sure i have it dialed in. When i record with just the transmitter it's way to quiet! Haven't figured that out yet. I do outdoor stuff like you do so i use one for vlogging and the other for ambient noise!
Thanks for this tutorial , very helpful....
This is by far THE most useful video on these microphones, I have ever seen. Just to confirm though if I am filming two subjects, e.g Bride and Groom at a wedding using both microphones I want the camera to be in stereo? I also edit in FCPX, so I can edit both audio tracks separately?
Can you tell me the best configuration in the gain for iPhone ? I’m using +6 on mic and +6 in the receiver
Brilliant video mate!
These 2 videos are excellent! Thx
Great video! It happened to record and mono is there a way to separate the two receivers onto separate audio channels, or are they baked in to the footage for good?
Super informative and expansive, thank you. I wish you can expand more on using phones or iPads. Is it better to use only the transmitters then apply them in the edit or to use the receiver? And if the latter, how and what’re the best flow for that?
Really well done. Thanks!
How come you have the angled cable, I got a straight cable which I can't even connect to the camera, I bought it last week.
well just used the dji mic on mono w/out safety. the djm was connected to a mixer which the mixer had an input to a speaker microphone similar to a lavilier. then I had the djm receiver hooked up to IOS ipad device with an app that connected via wirelessly to a fm radio station. I had the receicver settings to max and the transmitter almost maxed but I new that the mixer needed just to be lowered and the peak limiter set to -3 or -1 and had the output to the radio fm sounded well... anyway...since the one djm transmitter was used and hooked up to the podium microphone when people in the audience was asking questions they were not in front of the mic hence low volume. Next time (please make suggestions) i want to have both djm transmitters on...one for the guest speaker and one to go up to person with a extension monopod (djm transmitter 2 attached to the end) and put closer and in the direction of the person in audience asking the question Hoping this will help out for maxmizing audio for djm transmitter output to djm receiver...
I took a lot value from your video. Great job
At 08:50 you're talking about duplicating the audio track, how is that done? I've done a recording in stereo, I've used both mic's which are producing different audio levels and then I've followed your instructions by altering the audio to dual mono but I can't work out how to then individually adjust each audio channel as you are doing in the video? Can anyone help please?
I've had my mic for a while now and for some reason I started getting this staticky noise, "eeeeeeeehhhhhh" I have no idea where it came from. Can you advise me on what it may be?
This is why I have a sound person on set. 8-)
Not everyone has a sound person. Many creators work solo.
@@JevenDoveyMy point was: I don’t feel confident in my abilities when it comes to capturing great audio. Your video was comprehensive and will help many.
May I ask what camera you used to record this video?
The low cut of your audio is quite distracting... interesting thing giving the topip of this video and its a tutorial.
hello I bought the mic 2 too but am confused. I see that you also play the guitar, so here I bought this microphone just to record a rock concert, to try, I plug in my stereo at home and I play the music a little loudly to see the behavior the result is disastrous because when listening to the rendering, the sound is very low, so what I do is go up to 12 db on the transmitters and also on the receiver, so all the way up and there it goes a little better but not great. so who tried to record them when you play an instrument? could you help me? THANKS
this was a fantastically helpful video. I totally had the wrong understanding of how the safety/backup tracks were recorded and now it all makes sense lol. Thank you!
I just bought one so this video will come in handy once I have a chance to watch it
Make sure you check out my beginners guide as well. That video goes over every button on the system and this one focuses on the process to get the best audio
@Jeven Dovey watched it and its in the saved file for later reference. Thank you sir
exact gains u recommend would have been good.
I recently purchased this mic specifically for recording in loud environments like clubs(im a dj). After testing it at a club last night, I found that it struggled to handle the loud music(recording sound distorded). I attempted to adjust the problem by lowering the gain on the receiver, but this didn't resolve the issue. I couldn't find an option to reduce the signal strength sent from the mic to the receiver. Is there a setting I might be missing? The microphone was paired with an Insta360 X3 camera. The issue seems to be with the receiver's levels, as it consistently hits the red zone, indicating it's receiving too strong a signal. Any suggestions on how to better manage this setup would be appreciated
It’s almost like noise cancellation but not fully
Jeven, thanks for this great Video. I must be having a real DUMB day, but can I ask you a question please, apologies in advance!? I want to have two people using one Mic each, not an interview, but walking around talking etc. I understand the approach you have described to be able to split the recordings in post, which is what I want. Now, I like to record locally to each device and I have them set to auto record the second you take them out of the case. Am I right in saying, if I use the Stereo mode, but with each Mic going to a separate channel for post editing, and the Receiver is connected to the Stereo jack on my A7RV, that I will also have the local file from each device + a Stereo track with one mic on the left and one on the right channel. That way I can have a backup etc? Am I right here? So I could sync audio from the internal recordings on each mic on two separate tracks, to the stereo track recording from the received version of the audio track? My goodness .. I am getting a headache just writing this !!! If you understand what I am asking, I would greatly appreciate a confirmation if I am right? thanks man !!
Do you have any idea how to change the file naming and date/time setup in the mics? Deciphering the file names is a major pain as there is no logic to the names...and my mics are somehow set on conflicting dates/times so matching clips in the download is a nightmare.
How do we update the firmware to have the lights off when recording?
If you NEVER format the Tx internal memory, you run rhe risk of eventually ending up with issues with your recordings (maybe). Should be done every now and then!
have you ever tested this mic indoor situation such as car exhibition to test it's stablity operation in dense RF environments?
Yes and it works. Not always perfect but thats why you have the backup on the transmitter.
@@JevenDovey the intermittent on and off problem also happened with this Dji Mic? I have my Saramonic Blink 500 B2 always experienced that frustrating problem when it comes to record in dense RF environment such as car exhibition
In my country this Mike set is priced the same as Rode Wireless II (2+1) set. :(
So how does this compare to the Rode?
How to set the gain if im recording on an iphone? I cant find any gain setting on iphone, just on the dji mic it self
I been testing this too I been using zero on the transmitter and plus 2 on the receiver but I walk outdoors and sometimes it’s windy I vlog walking and it’s been the best settings so far with my iPhone , but idk if there is a better option but I been doing this and my audio has been coming very nice
So amazing djl microphone guys
Works so well!
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it doesn't work on my iphone
Transmitter gain...Receiver Gain..backup gain..CAMERA gain ..why so complicated 😩😢😖
Ok so i watched this veideo and understood more, i mainly use a go pro 11 and media mod with the dji mic, to be able to get a good level like yours -12 to -6 i had to change the reciever to -12 and the mic to +9 to be able to get a good level when recording from the mic, the go pro 11 does not have gain level adjustments, do this sound right to you?
Has anyone experienced a massive drop off in gain using the DJI transmitter as a standalone recorder? The first 10 minutes may be the +6 gain that I have it programmed for, but then suddenly the audio will be barely audible.
Can I connect more then two mic to 1 recorder?
No
Hey! I have a question please, can the DJI MIC use on Phone? not camera alone?
Yes the kit comes adapters that you can use to connect to lightning based iPhones and usb c type phones.
You can also use the kit as a wireless audio interface into your computer.
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anyone has issue with DJI Mic cold show adapter stuck not going out 🥴
spell check at 653 - great info tnks
Can’t fix it now
@@JevenDovey it’s okay your attention to detail in the video was exceptional so I figured you would at least want to know
Great vid. So very helpful and well done. Thanks..... :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a pro-audio guy. Pretty good explanation, but to clarify gain staging, the steps ought to be 1) set the transmitter gain so it is in the range you desire (probably just into the yellow as an average), 2) set the receiver gain so that it is also averaging just into the yellow, 3) set the camera input gain so it is averaging just into the yellow. This is common gain staging technique, and once you've done it a few times, it's really easy to do on-site and on-the-fly. Every scenario is going to be different, so it really ought to be done for each shoot.
As for the low-cut, 150hz is a little on the high side, so I would generally suggest leaving the low-cut off and adding a filter in post if it's needed. For reference, most audio consoles that have a low-cut button (and no adjustable frequency) have it somewhere between 80 hz and 120 hz.
Thanks this is easy to follow and logical.
Could I ask a specific question : I will be recording some shots in which there will be chainsaw use. So, medium / loud audio while saw is idling, then very loud audio when the saw is running full throttle. Are the "safety" channels sufficient for this kind of recording or should something different be done? Just curious.
@@SouthernItalyHomestead Unfortunately, the answer is, "it depends". I suspect that the safety channel will be a sufficient differential, but maybe a creative edit where the sound of the chain saw is covered by music may be a good option if it doesn't work out.
Something worth mentioning, the effect of reciever gain on dji mic does not display on its screen, or the monitoring headphone pluged into dji mic reciever. Only the camera audio level bar or headphone pluged into camera is affected by reciever gain.
If I'm just using a transmitter without the receiver (standalone mode), any tips on setting that gain?
DON’T YOU EVER STOP MAKING THESE INVALUABLE TUTORIALS!! 😊
you should have dji mic to feel it valuable .. 👍
Okay i wont!
Very good and very helpful thanks for the video.
Best advice is to lower the camera gain as far as possible, because that's generally where noise is introduced the most (especially with Canon cameras). Then you have only TX and RX to worry about.
This exactly!
I just stumbled upon this comment, how low you mean, if its 0 doesn't record audio even with mic on, if its 1 its super low. I had my camera mic gain at 23 and the dii transmitter at 0 and picked up so much background noise at a convention event, was pretty pissed.
@@KN-mi7mh You have to try with different values to find the sweet spot, but keep the camera gain value as low as you can while still getting a decent signal. There should be some kind of audio meter in the camera to show you the level being picked up, so use that to keep around -6 db max.
@@KN-mi7mh i'll give you my personal example, i usually work with canon camcoders and set the camera volume between 15 and 20, auto gain is too high, from there, i set the rx gain in a -5 and tx gain +4, works fine at loud enviroments, i usually do live streaming of youth football so the crowds are very noisey here in Mexico, but you have to sometimes play with the mic values depending on how loud the backround noise is, if it´s too loud i go down in the rx at a -6.
Hey Jeven. I do dentistry full time and I listen to your videos while im filling teeth. I listen to them all the way through and im unable to skip the ads so I hope im helping your insights. Please keep it up. I dream of cutting the cord from work and making money on UA-cam. Someday
Exceptional video, Jeven. Lots of invaluable information, clearly explained. Kudos to you! Two small things I noticed: At 5:56, after talking about the 6db pad on the Mono with Safety track, you say that the backup recording is "-20db lower." I knew what you meant--that's it's actually -6db--but it might cause confusion to some. The other thing is something I just learned moments ago on another excellent UA-cam tutorial--after you update to the new firmware released in January (Vers. 2.00.72.87), you can now completely turn off the LEDs on the transmitters while using them. Granted, this is not about sound, but I thought you might like to know. All in all though, this was an outstanding tutorial and I'm grateful you took the time to make it.
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video on these specific settings. You rock Jeven.
Adjusting the audio level at the right level without distortion is not the problem. I've adjusted all three gain settings (transmitter, receiver and Canon M50 camera) to get the best sound (+8 on the transmitter, +5 on the receiver and as low as possible on the camera seemed to work the best). The problem is the sound just sucks. I can't really describe it other than it just sounds cheap and not real. I couldn't even tweak it enough in Resolve to be acceptable. Taking the sound from just the transmitter is a little better than running it through the entire set-up. Being on the talent side of the glass, not the tech side, I've recorded 1,100 movie sound tracks as a French horn player. Take it for whatever it's worth. Disappointed with this product and all the hype. The videos are good, Jeven. My only criticism is maybe just get to the point a little faster.
You can try buying a separate lav mic to attach to the transmitter , it sounds better than the onboard microphone on the transmitter. Hope this helps !
I find that with the mic connected to the camera, the sound is muffled. I totally forgot about the stand-alone recording feature it has 💀😭. Being an audiophile, I completely left out that step 🤦🏽♂️.
I set my transmitter gain to +6, and receiver gain to +12 and in FCP the VU meters only hit -12 playing back and that's boosted in FCP by raising the line all the way. DJI mics are recording too low I think.
Very well done, Jeven! Another video that I'll re-watch until I get it right, just like your intro to the DJI mic. Thank you.
Its a really amazing product and this is a excellent user guide to get the best audio from it. Personally, I only ever use stand-alone TX'er and then sync it via wav file to my video footage in Davinci Resolve. As Im running most of the time when Im recording, my issue is how to not get the TX to bounce when Im running! As Jeven has pointed out, some clothes are better than others!
Crushing everyone else. Between this and DJI OSMO 3 action cam... that skunky Go Pro (Go Blow) system is sad. I can't even give away my cameras. DJI is the way.
0 DB on the transmitter for interviews/ -4 BD on the receiver / GH5 amps set to almost nothing, like -11 or -10 DB, I believe.
Be sure mics (transmitters) are at the same level if they are positioned the same way on talents. A - (or +) 2 BD difference between them will result in a huge and disturbing effect in sound HQ.
THANKS, Jeven! This was very helpful, well done and great info. I have a Sony A7Siii and used the +6dB and 9 on the camera, and it worked PERFECTLY! Thanks again! 😀
Have you found the mic to be quite hot? It sounds like it’s distorting when you say extra loud words in this video. I’m having the same issue with min and I keep having to lower the gain. What transmitter gain are you using?
Thanks. Bought it 3 weeks ago. At first i recorded an Interview and the audio was fine (Just a bit noise, but quickly fixed in Post). Yesterday i tried to shoot a concert. Unfortunately the whole audio clipped and is nearly not useable😬 And i misunderstood the stereo feature...
So if you want to record ambient around the camera. And then get speaking person. Would it be the best to get another stereo mic with independent recorder. And then DJI mic for voice.
The oncamera mics are always bad. They just like a flashlights on low end cameras ;)
The only camera that has useful embedded mic is the Sony ZV-1 ZV-E10 and so on. Just because you can attach dead cat, and not just two pin holes :)
Got mine around the week it got released. My 2nd ever wireless mic, so versatile, and so flexible thanks to its built in memory.
Love this wireless system!
Hey, wanted to ask: it can be compatible with a phone right?
hi ill try another question i know you must be busy as you didn't reply below. anyway use the dJi for my mc helmet with a rode go lab mic i had a issue as asked below, but i think ive sorted by turning off the auto record. my question n0 2 is when i plug the rx into my go pro and the tx into lav on helmet as i press record on go pro or start rec on quick app the red light does not show upon rx or tx ? but when i return to base its recorded. Same option nobody seems to tell you if i plug the rx into my RC Dji mini pro 3 controller it records but again no red light? WHAT IM asking is IT DOES record as a tx without having to turn on the red record button???????????? Thanks D
A _sensational_ video! Just what I needed - thank you soooooo much!
Now off to test Tx, Rx, and camera audio settings
Just bought dii to use whilst motorbike vlogging i plug a rode lab II into one of the tx and then connect the RX to my go pro 11 med mod via the supplied cable it all wks BUT !!!!!!! i there any way you can stop the std mic on the TX from picking up audio when the LAV mic is plugged into it? Its seems mad that it picks up audio from both th std mic an sth elav mic at same time but it does? Therefore all i get is wind noise as the std rx is attached to y m/c helmet an dthelav mic is inside my helmet but plug into the std tx unit.. Thanks D
just buying my DJI Mic.
and I want to thank you for complete tutorial.
My mono button is locked.... it stasy on mono and its light gray and wont change lol. help.
I’m still thinking about getting these. Seems like the best setting for me on gain would be to match it so that I don’t have to change my camera setting between using these or the plug-in mic I use now. But I just do run and gun random vlog type stuff. Seems like this would be great for doing that since the transmitters and receiver are independently adjustable. Thanks for the video!
I just got this set of wireless mics and I am excited to start using them. 😀