There's trouble in paradise aboard our Nordhavn 43 yacht!!! [MV FREEDOM SEATTLE]

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  • @darrylb4048
    @darrylb4048 2 роки тому +6

    Great vid.
    If you own a house; you work on it.
    If you own an RV; you work on it.
    If you own a boat; you work on it.
    To me its all the same and for me, once I've fixed (improved it) it then it will last for a VERY long time.
    So enjoy is the key because they all take money and work.
    Ciao from Sidney, BC

  • @rodneyross5282
    @rodneyross5282 2 роки тому +9

    Hey you got the best guy for the headliner he moved up your way. James Knight at Yacht Tech Inc. He moved from Florida to WA check out his channel, he gives wonderful insight to the Nordhaven Yachts. Have a wonderful week. God Bless in all you do.

  • @PlayingwthCreation
    @PlayingwthCreation 2 роки тому +2

    I love her response about universe gives just you're asking for no less, no more.

  • @cozyafloatisme
    @cozyafloatisme 2 роки тому +4

    Minute 10:07 A beautiful "Bartender" at Sucia. Don't see those much any more. As a kid in the late '50s I'd watch the Coast Guard leave Depot Bay on the Oregon Coast in their Bartender (designed and built at that time in Lincoln City). Thanks for all the work to film, edit and post your videos!

  • @123turby
    @123turby 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for the puppy time. That little Ms Martha is a real little water bug isn’t she. And another super repair by the boat guru,Shawn you are very methodical and persistent in your repairs and I truly enjoy every bit of it. You have a beautiful home with a fantastic view.

  • @6800891
    @6800891 2 роки тому +1

    "Boat Work" is mental and physical exercise for the owner, keeping you in shape just like the boat. Blessing in disguise!

  • @XX-lr9sz
    @XX-lr9sz 2 роки тому +2

    Water is our friend until it isn't our friend. Shaun, thanks for sharing the insight of how boats, like friendships and relationships are hard work and in constant flux and repair but in the end, so well worth the effort especially when you have major boat skills like your team does. Today's lesson was very good> Thank you.

  • @richardsmith4187
    @richardsmith4187 2 роки тому +3

    I really liked your hull scrubbing machine !! Also taking care of that pesky leak was a pain, but as usual Shawn had things figured out and problem solved. The headliner job was time consuming, but the results are beautiful and when you stand back you have to compliment yourself on a job well done. Both of you tackle jobs on MV Freedom and then enjoy the fruits of your labor. Hope the rest of your weekend and coming week bring happiness and enjoyment. Take care of each other and live it up !!

    • @khoatran9482
      @khoatran9482 2 роки тому

      For real I wanna know where he got that lol.

    • @khoatran9482
      @khoatran9482 2 роки тому

      Nevermind i found it lol.

    • @JCrook1028
      @JCrook1028 2 роки тому

      Delos has had one for a cpl years now.

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 2 роки тому +2

    Sean is good at explaining the upholstery procedure. You both work hard at maintaining your vessel.

  • @Papaondas
    @Papaondas 2 роки тому +2

    what a multi task Captain, and first Mate, and electrician , and mechanic , and carpenter and bottom boat algae cleaner , I'm impressed , well done Captain

  • @phantomphlyer4417
    @phantomphlyer4417 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent video! Appreciate you showing the “Good, Bad & Ugly” of boat ownership. You’ve got it down to a science.

  • @chrisjohnson6765
    @chrisjohnson6765 2 роки тому +4

    🤣18 year old boats parked in salt water in a climate that freezes and thaws will always have those types of issues. Nordhavns are universally recognized as one of the sturdiest and best cruising boats around, yet with tons of systems, redundancies, and creature comforts in a constant salt water environment, it requires constant upkeep. Good videos for those who are thinking of being live-aboard cruisers, as my rvs and sailboats always required almost as much time and/or money to maintain as enjoy. Check out the used boats that never received such care and you’ll see a marked difference. Keep up the good work.

  • @fj55tyrant
    @fj55tyrant Рік тому +3

    Little screw leak was made out to be quite a big deal, I guess that’s the goal to produce content. Beautiful boat, hard working captain. Also good editing and interesting music, thank you.

  • @KandiSueTheBlue
    @KandiSueTheBlue 2 роки тому +1

    You did a great job on the headliners. Let's face it, boats are work but as long as you're enjoying the fun times more than working, it's worthwhile. Your videos are so gret. I'm sure you hate the wind because it's cold Elizabeth but when you head south to the heat, you'll love the wind. Pats to Martha and Sully.

  • @peterdodge6563
    @peterdodge6563 2 роки тому +1

    So nice to watch a handyman. Always wished I had some of those skills. Thank God there is such a thing as a desk job. Lack of any mechanical ability is why I never had a motor yacht and stuck with sailboats.

  • @ricknicholson5894
    @ricknicholson5894 2 роки тому +3

    We are having a bad spring which could easily go into summer but I would rather have this than forest fires.

  • @stevecman1
    @stevecman1 2 роки тому +1

    Misery loves company….I am heartened to see that my Nordic Tug 42 AWEIGH isn’t the only high quality boat that has droopy headliner issues. At least the Nordhavn panels are relatively easy to remove and re-do when compared to the NT.
    A good project for a rainy day!
    Great combination of cruising and maintenance content…keep it up. I just subscribed 👍👍👍

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 2 роки тому +2

    This has been a tough spring weatherwise....summer is arriving September 21.

  • @msweaver2
    @msweaver2 2 роки тому +1

    The kids are right at home on a paddleboard, and endlessly entertaining.

  • @roykelln4896
    @roykelln4896 Рік тому +1

    Glad To Hear You made it To our area. Sorry for the wierd weather. Hope To get back To your area again . Will be at the Seattle boat show This year. See you there? Thanks for the great posts.

  • @MichaelKallelisOn2Wheels
    @MichaelKallelisOn2Wheels 2 роки тому +1

    Oh yes, the familiar frustration of a boat owner. I try to keep my SeaRay impeccable. So, to my chagrin, I was walking on the bow deck and found it a bit "squishy". Lots of investigation and we discovered that screw holes that hold the windshield down, were leaking (presumably for years). $10,000 later and the deck is fixed. Who would have believed those little screws could cause all that damage. The list goes on, but I'll stop now. Great video and super job on the headliner.

    • @jcheck6
      @jcheck6 2 роки тому

      What a bummer Michael especially with how much pride you put in your Sea Ray. We take great care of our Mercedes but the differential just went out and waiting for parts from Germany. Never heard of a MB differential failing.

  • @wekker090
    @wekker090 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work on the headliners. I did same but with gluing of sheet to the board with spray glue. messy but so far so good.

  • @simonassouline45
    @simonassouline45 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve owned many Boat’s, fishing specifically! Did a lot of repairs myself, still boat’s are extremely expensive to maintain! That’s why,I’m Boat-less, there’s always something to repair! The cost’s outweigh the pleasure!

  • @manfredseidler1531
    @manfredseidler1531 2 роки тому +4

    If and when you ever decide to sell MV Freedom, it's safe to say it would be in a better condition than what it was when you purchased it. There's new and then there's better than new... you guys are amazing.

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 2 роки тому +1

      He's extremely diligent with his maintenance. You can tell he's an engineer. haha

  • @roger9453
    @roger9453 2 роки тому +2

    Ha! Thanks for the headliner tip! Mine is starting to bubble in the forward stateroom

  • @RichDoes..
    @RichDoes.. Рік тому +1

    I live on Morecambe Bay, Lancashire, England, we have a saying , whilst looking to the hills of The Lake District National park... " if ya can't see the hills, it's rainng. If ya can see the hills... it's going to rain"!

  • @georgetubbs8211
    @georgetubbs8211 2 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THE FOAM BREAKS DOWN AND RELEASES!!! OH YEAH AND I LOVE YALLS CHANNEL!

  • @malekodesouza7255
    @malekodesouza7255 2 роки тому +1

    That “water proof” scrubber/ drill is a great solution. The foam just disintegrated, probably due to age, moisture, temp etc. Seen it in cars. The thin foam just gives the vinyl a smooth look, covering/ hiding any defects in the sub structure/wood panels.

  • @jellybean9396
    @jellybean9396 Рік тому +2

    Boats are nothing but problems be them new or old.gorgeous boat and great videos

  • @mikenelson1387
    @mikenelson1387 2 роки тому +1

    Big improvement for the headliner. Great job.

  • @CamanoJohn
    @CamanoJohn 2 роки тому +3

    Always enjoy your videos and kinda of fun to see my boat in a background shot. How about an update on how the Starlink is working out?

    • @mvfreedom
      @mvfreedom  2 роки тому +1

      So far so good, in a few months we’ll share a more comprehensive update.

  • @jimfisher4082
    @jimfisher4082 2 роки тому

    Love following your adventures! We lived aboard our 43’ Tradewinds for 5 years always said that living aboard is just “working on your boat in exotic places”. Have fun!

  • @franksmith3602
    @franksmith3602 2 роки тому +2

    When replacing, hatch's or repairs. All screw holes will be larger. Shifting, waves, sun , snow, rain. Screws wiggle, not alot. But .0000001, unscrew, holes get get bigger . The fix is always roll the new screws in silicone. ( try not to use the old screws if you can, the threads have been compressed, and expanded. Put new ones in ).
    If there rot in the screw hole, dry it out, heat gun or sun, if it fiber glass, mix small amount of a epoxy, smash it into the hole, or inject it in to the hole, let it cure. Redrill pilot hole. Then screw.
    Have fun. Put a small dab of silicone on top of the screw head when done. And seal around the hatch.

  • @mikelauer8592
    @mikelauer8592 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciating the bead board headliner in the Grand Banks. But somewhat different animal.
    Love y’all

  • @ThoughtfulWander
    @ThoughtfulWander 2 роки тому +1

    Nice episode! Stay safe Freedom crew!! 👍👍

  • @gregfawcett5152
    @gregfawcett5152 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job on the headliners...I am doing the same...I am using a heat gun to just get a bit more stretch of the vinyl before stapling.

  • @stepheng1082
    @stepheng1082 2 роки тому +1

    We had sailboat and loved the wind when we could get it. It was very fickle in the San Juans and in Puget Sound as well. We always enjoyed Shallow Bay at Sucia Is. for the fantastic sunsets!

  • @DutchBoatAdventures
    @DutchBoatAdventures 2 роки тому

    “It’s one thing or another on this boat”. All boats are in constant need of repair.
    “We don’t like wind” make friends with the wind and you’ll like it. :-) and it will add fun, flavor and frivolity to your experiences.

  • @geraldhimmelspach1154
    @geraldhimmelspach1154 2 роки тому +1

    Just found you. This is only second vid. Got to find the rest, this is what I dreamt of 30 years ago when I was your age. Fresh out of navy. Just vicariously loving it. Ya when disability comes in I will purchase some merch. Do not care if you send the t shirt, just want to see more vids. You guys stay safe… and keep videos coming.

    • @daveholley2156
      @daveholley2156 2 роки тому

      Gerald, If you click on MV Freedom it will bring up a bunch of uploads ! ✌️

  • @Screwdriversteve1
    @Screwdriversteve1 2 роки тому +2

    I have owned a few boats made in China I now have one made in North America. An incredible difference in quality. Nordhavn are quality built boats. You can see from the gel coat finish above the headliner. There was attention to detail even in concealed locations. All boats will leak sooner or later it's just the nature of the movement of the fiberglass due to temperature and flexing in Heavy Seas however now that I have a North American built boat I will never go back. As a side note I probably would have gone after the screws first before removing the teak trim around the hatch. Hindsight is 20/20

    • @jeffalexander544
      @jeffalexander544 2 роки тому

      I’m sure he wanted to know where any water damage was and dry it out as much as possible. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @Sonny_Eclipse
    @Sonny_Eclipse 2 роки тому +2

    Well no leaks are good but a leak on top is better than a leak on the bottom, the vinyl looks great after you fixed it

  • @BrickHD05
    @BrickHD05 2 роки тому +1

    Is that J.J. Cale? Love J.J. Cale. Love your channel seems like I am watching it everyday. Keep on living the dream and fighting the good fight. Living vicariously through you.

  • @capt.stubing5604
    @capt.stubing5604 2 роки тому +1

    I now live in the San Juans. This has been the darkest, coldest, windiest and wettest winter/spring I have seen in 41 years coming here. Cloudy and 59 today, hoping for some better weather next month.

  • @ernestpena7260
    @ernestpena7260 2 роки тому

    Hi Elizabeth and Shawn, just wanted to mention Elizabeth I really like the improvement you’ve made to your narrative, it’s excellent.

  • @jacobcohen9205
    @jacobcohen9205 2 роки тому +1

    Great job Sean. All the best from the UK.

  • @midwestg4105
    @midwestg4105 2 роки тому

    Looks like a good solution to the headliner.....hope it works long term. My Dad had a 46' wood Chris Craft when I was in college and it was constant maintenance. Thanks for sharing your travels and occasional tribulations!

  • @sanantoniotonight5569
    @sanantoniotonight5569 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, so many chores associated with boat living…. But you’ve turned mundane tasks into an interesting video. Thanks!

  • @delzane
    @delzane 2 роки тому

    After boating "up there" religiously for fifteen-plus years, we experienced the romance, great times and countless adventures. We're glad we indulged, but don't miss it...especially those non-summer wet/foggy summers and endless boat maintenance. Not to claim it's originality but, "The two happiest days of a boaters life is the day the boat is purchased and the day it's sold". Favorite ports: Rosario (Honeymoon), Port Townsend/Point Hudson (Quiet), Roche Harbor (Vibrant), Victoria (Classy) and Nanaimo (Getaway). 😎

  • @amerz2477
    @amerz2477 2 роки тому +2

    i wish I was as smart and handy as Shawn!

  • @jimpalmer1969
    @jimpalmer1969 2 роки тому

    After lining in the Seattle area most of my life, I agree this has been a gray and dreary spring. I can remember at least one spring where it rained until Fourth of July weekend. Then there is July, August, September and most of October. Best kept secret of the PNW. I like Shawn's pessimism, his expectations are always met and he is never disappointed.

  • @dandersonjr
    @dandersonjr 2 роки тому +3

    Well I guess when you live surrounded by water from the bottom and the top you're going to have to deal with some moisture as long as you don't have to start going to bed with your scuba gear on you should be fine.

  • @paulbenoit9431
    @paulbenoit9431 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah, water always finds a way in on a boat. Happy "Junuary!"

  • @GLF-Video
    @GLF-Video 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks again for sharing.

  • @littlewingpsc27
    @littlewingpsc27 2 роки тому +2

    Butyl tape around the screws does wonders to seal the holes, and never hardens so it makes a great continuous seal.

    • @PJ-jz5fm
      @PJ-jz5fm 2 роки тому +1

      I was going to say exactly the same thing :) Butyl tape is the only way to effectively seal hatch frames that are bolted in place.

  • @feliciaalexander5032
    @feliciaalexander5032 2 роки тому

    You two crack me up! Love the candidness. We are full time RV’ers very similar just on land. Love your channel , glad your back!

  • @slickwillie3376
    @slickwillie3376 2 роки тому +1

    I feel for all y'all that live on boats. I've been trying to overcome many of these obstacles. One thing I see is that I won't be having any "below the waterline" through hull fittings on mine. I really don't care what it takes. I mean...pump the stuff.

  • @ChrisCebelenski
    @ChrisCebelenski 2 роки тому +1

    50 degree water - I'd be wearing at least a PFD on the standing board - Hypothermia kicks in quickly at those temps and you can lose use of your extremities... (I do like the wetsuits later in the video - Good deal!) How often do you need to clean the growth off? The tool makes it look easy, tho I'm sure it's not.

  • @amerz2477
    @amerz2477 2 роки тому +1

    i always enjoy your videos thank you!

  • @douglaswagner311
    @douglaswagner311 2 роки тому

    Another great video, I especially like the Sucia segment with the dogs 🐕 on the paddleboard having their beach fun

  • @davidzimmer2694
    @davidzimmer2694 2 роки тому

    I continue to be amazed at you folks. Your dedication to maintenance is commendable. I'm a few days away from doing the same thing on land. Stored all we own and taking off for a year or two. Maybe our next adventure will be at sea. Nice work 007 and Ms. Moneypenny. Nice work. You guys are awesome.

  • @stephenyork4419
    @stephenyork4419 2 роки тому +1

    Great video but I have a question, when you both were diving the boat did you run up the divers in the water flag?

  • @azphilip1960
    @azphilip1960 2 роки тому

    Great video!!! You guy's, thank God you're not boring!!! I subscribed!!! You guy's are great, fun and interesting together!!! I enjoy watching your videos!!! Keep them coming!!! Life is good!!! Enjoy!!!🙂👍

  • @jedi201
    @jedi201 2 роки тому +1

    Great video once again. Elizabeth, what diving gear did you invest in?

  • @hedhtr4
    @hedhtr4 2 роки тому +2

    I have had many leaks and trying to find the source can be difficult until I used baby powder to track back to the origin.

  • @tonkacaptain
    @tonkacaptain 2 роки тому

    Great content. I've noticed the headliners for awhile. Makes me smile that you both did too!!!!

  • @JCAJCA3
    @JCAJCA3 2 роки тому +2

    Its just about time to see MV Freedom in those warm blue Caribbean waters is it not? JC

  • @captainsalty9022
    @captainsalty9022 2 роки тому +4

    It is one thing after another on ALL boats.

  • @azphilip1960
    @azphilip1960 2 роки тому

    Great job on the leak and headliner!!! Great team!!!👍

  • @wnowlin62
    @wnowlin62 2 роки тому +2

    Love the J.J. Cale music!

  • @shovelhead4558
    @shovelhead4558 Рік тому

    Love the boat design as for the location it’s stunning a great escape many thanks 😊

  • @jeffalexander544
    @jeffalexander544 2 роки тому +1

    Great job on the headliner and leak. 👏

  • @snoopstp4189
    @snoopstp4189 2 роки тому +1

    Problem with older boats you think are in "great shape" because they look so good, is you can't see things like hatch gaskets drying out or rotting, and when they fail the leaks start happening. Being handy is a great attribute for old boat owners.

  • @sailorman8590
    @sailorman8590 2 роки тому +2

    I would have thought these Nordhavn yachts were built with quality. Disappointed to hear the constant issues!

    • @JCrook1028
      @JCrook1028 2 роки тому

      All boats have issues.

  • @michaelmanbeck9159
    @michaelmanbeck9159 2 роки тому

    Well done ..Shawn ...on your ceiling panel repair..looks great..We missed this video for some reason....Enjoy the Fall season...

  • @acousticmikeb8119
    @acousticmikeb8119 2 роки тому

    Have you ever considered installing Soni-Hull on your boat? It’s intended to discourage and slow down marine growth on the hull. I bought mine from PYI in Seattle, who are helpful with install questions (though Sean seems to have all the needed skills anyway). You would need two transducers for your boat size but I’ve found it worthwhile on my past two boats. Less diving in muck.

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk1337 2 роки тому +2

    The joys of boat life…..

  • @Kenny21mx
    @Kenny21mx 2 роки тому +1

    I liked your video, you guys have a good sense of humor, keep up the good work.

  • @sailorman8590
    @sailorman8590 2 роки тому +1

    Shawn is so realistic….yep the leak will show up right when you start falling asleep. These things always seem to happen at the worst time as if someone is watching you. Unbelievable!

  • @cjamachado
    @cjamachado 2 роки тому

    Sometimes we have the same problems at home. So, enjoy your nice boat cause we’ll be here waiting your videos every week. Regards from Brazil.

  • @gbsailing9436
    @gbsailing9436 2 роки тому +2

    The next time you look like having to do the hood-liners, if it was me, I would be getting some nice leather cut to size and putting leather up there. It might help the resale value too having leather (a classier option) liners. Your thoughts? Only if you needed to do it all again of course.
    Also when I have to SCUBA to clean a hull in the past, I attached 3 lines from front to back - one over the keel and two that go along the chines and then tie cross lines from side to side about

    • @georgetubbs8211
      @georgetubbs8211 2 роки тому +1

      THAT WOULD LOOK GOOD. I WOULD GO BACK WITH A REALLY NICE TWEED MATERIAL. WE DID A 67 CAMERO LIKE THAT ONCE AT THE UPHOLSTERY SHOP I WORKED AT. MATCHING TWEED ON THE DOOR PANELS, SEATS,AND HEADLINER. THE SEATS AND PANELS WERE LEATHER,TWEED COMBO

    • @gbsailing9436
      @gbsailing9436 2 роки тому

      @@georgetubbs8211 Your Caps lock is on...

  • @carolyndean4591
    @carolyndean4591 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job on the ceiling!

  • @Chad_H
    @Chad_H 2 роки тому

    Love your videos! We live just a bit south of you guys near Lake Tapps and we love seeing this beautiful state from a different point of view! I'm also in love with Nordhavns, so your videos are win-win in my book! We have a camping trip scheduled later in the season at Moran State Park and your island hopping videos have me super excited!

  • @Mamame4
    @Mamame4 2 роки тому

    What’s so sad is what you said in the beginning is so true!

  • @suunto61
    @suunto61 2 роки тому +1

    when you said 5mm, I shivered. I did my certification in Monterey Bay with a 7mm farmer John. Froze my ass off.

  • @TheWiseGuyzz
    @TheWiseGuyzz 2 роки тому +1

    You guys should contact Dr. Nordhavn himself! James Knight. He is up in Anacortes and YachtTech headliners are the best

  • @triptrish2
    @triptrish2 2 роки тому +1

    Another great video. I really like that NEMO Brush.
    I was wondering if you will ever made your CAD file available for the Starlink base? I know I would love to have it to made one.

  • @akneemoose3383
    @akneemoose3383 2 роки тому +1

    Nice tricks! Living in a home on land we have just as many projects as any home……if you want to keep it nice 👍🏻❤️. We just replaced our double pain windows….ouch on the bank account❤️.

  • @douglasmontgomery6315
    @douglasmontgomery6315 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the episode, the underwater boat cleaner is not linked in the video or on your Amazon links. Can you provide a link for it please?

    • @mvfreedom
      @mvfreedom  2 роки тому +2

      Here’s a link! nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-hull-cleaner/

  • @tonyheitsman4728
    @tonyheitsman4728 Рік тому

    Just found your channel!!
    Loving it!!
    You 2 rock, happy to subscribe!!

  • @markduncan6690
    @markduncan6690 2 місяці тому

    Always Game💪👍 Power On You Two!

  • @ericr.3759
    @ericr.3759 2 роки тому +2

    3M 76 works well for vinyl headliners.

  • @seawench555
    @seawench555 2 роки тому

    Hi i just love ur little dogs they are amazing, I've got 6 Chihuahuas and were building a pontoon houseboat hoping they will be just as happy as ur two. 🇦🇺🐶🐕

  • @markduncan6690
    @markduncan6690 2 роки тому

    Hello Again M.V Freedom! God Speed and Good Travels!

  • @2dogsnight
    @2dogsnight 2 роки тому +2

    Sean is great mechanic/machinist etc.etc. Water leak - no big deal 🙂

    • @majoroldladyakamom6948
      @majoroldladyakamom6948 2 роки тому +1

      Etc. means on and on.
      When you say etc., etc., it means on and on, and on and on...
      Just saying... 🤣

    • @2dogsnight
      @2dogsnight 2 роки тому +2

      @@majoroldladyakamom6948 that's what I meant to say. He is a man of many talents

  • @khoatran9482
    @khoatran9482 2 роки тому +1

    Fun video (for us, the viewers), the gallows humor lol.

  • @dahveed284
    @dahveed284 2 роки тому

    Wah, 60º? It was 106º with a heat index of 112º here. Enjoy the cool weather!

  • @ianbell4816
    @ianbell4816 2 роки тому +1

    Dive gear takes a bunch of fresh water to rinse. How much fresh water gets used up in cleaning tasks?

  • @ryano.5149
    @ryano.5149 2 роки тому +1

    "You got dry rot. Every boat has it. You are lucky, yours is above the water line. Well, most of it, anyway."

  • @markrushton4631
    @markrushton4631 2 роки тому

    Great job on those panels Shawn, they really look like new.

  • @richardburger3350
    @richardburger3350 2 роки тому +1

    Aren’t you losing some sound dampening when you remove the foam in the headliners?
    If the foam was only glued to the fabric and not the wood, it might be a better solution for sound and looks.