@@Foundingmother1 I think one might be surprised just how much being a classically wealthy person utilizes the art of grifting. You don't get rich and stay rich by actually using your own money for stuff after all.
I have my own business as a housekeeper, cook, and pet care specialist in NYC. Done it a little more than 8 years. Tried to work for a few of these people. They will try to suck you dry and drop you to the ground like a used tissue. Not everyone who is very rich is like this. People who have reached great wealth by degrading themselves will always throw you under the bus. Those who built themselves up often understand and appreciate someone who is honest and works hard and wants their home to shine.
While I'm retired due to demand I've been asked/involved with two land societies. and the juxtaposition is incredible. One group of hard working Engineers that saved their money (my age) are just wonderful to deal with. The other group who mainly didn't really work to make their money are insufferable.
This is basically how russian, especially russian women work. I met a lot of them while living in China and they all were very entitled and acted like the world moved around them. Most worked in prostitution related businesses but not because they were poor but to climb the social ladder. With prostitution money they would invest in designer clothing, proper bleached blonde hair and some beauty treatment as fillers. Workings as guests in clubs and karaoke rooms they would have access to richer men, their main goal was to find a very rich husband. But in order to obtain that they couldnt look like gold diggers, their external status (clothing, and overall looks) would have to convince men they were not "gold diggers". Just they are being played back because many of these men are already married but keep them as mistresses without them knowing. They still get some financial aid from this guys but not moving to another target and not demanding too much with the marriage promise. They actually think the world owes them, especially western people. I had a ukranian roommate who would always borrow money but when she received her scholarship stipend she would immediately go spend on another things and not paying me back. I would have to remind her all the time. The odd thing is that she had some savings from a part time job but she wouldn't touch that money. Like she would spend her scholarship money and then borrow for me, instead of going to her savings. That's a really good plan, to live on loans that don't even come with interest rate and if lucky i could forget.
I am glad you wrote this. Some rich people are very admirable and hold themselves to the utmost standards in how they treat people. Which is actually how some of them became rich to begin with. And some rich people are bad, just like every other category of people.
Damn, if only I knew this sooner. My mother is in NYC and needs someone just like you. She is very generous as well. Is there a way of finding you if the woman she has moves on? Your name is Italian. My grandmother was Sicilian. She would never hire anyone unless they were Italian since she believed they did the best work, having been a fully trained tailor in her teens in Sicily. My mother would love it, too.
@@Sarablueunicorn sorry you experienced this chaos. I have relatives like this. It's sad. They are usually competing with siblings to see who can have the bigger house or most cars or most travel. It's a family built on competition not love. I was always aware of this and I purposely would not work full time or I would self sabotage. I knew my relatives would try to steal my money by deception. It's a sick cycle.
if you think about it - that's actually how the entire lending system works i take your money now, and "promise" to pay back later once you take the money, you are on the clock
Yes they do have similar modus operandis. But you know in a way this woman shown the hypocrisy of the Arts. The people she robed are the ones who rob artists to maintain a life style in a murky mafioso business that is the Arts. I don't feel sorry for her victims, as they are also perpetrators . Kind screw kind. Good.
The concept that they can't keep this up forever never enters their mind. My younger brother is/was just like this: there is no "empathy" chip and I used to change his diapers. I'm STILL changing his diapers, though more in the family adult mental shortage realm. I never saw it coming. When dad passed, the family legacy, any "cash" money, was gone. He still does it: sells family stuff and pockets the cash right in front of mom. Mom doesn't seem to get it.
I think she had deep-seated contempt for everyone, regardless of their station / class, and she took that disdain out on anyone who crossed her. She despised working class people and her own background as one of them and she was equally contemptuous towards people who had more money because she wasn’t one of them.
@@pembrokelove Classic sign of overcompensation for insecurities. If you watch the Netflix series, the last episodes show how the new persona was "born" in her teens when her peers were making fun of her. I think she lived a life of fantasies that finally became realized as she got older. Her narcissism prevented her from any kind of understanding or empathy for anyone else. Every single relationship was transactional for her.
@@jenplinguist Yes. I overcompensate by overachieving for the insecurities created in me, too. I had to borrow 5000 dollars from my father to pay my partners because a Government customer attacked my Company and this was a big hit to my self confidence. I constantly feel like a failure and compensate for it by overachieving. Still I feel unsuccessful and useless. Just another opportunity for him to complaint about me to everyone that how much money he spent on my education abd doctors and how I danced until the morning in nightclubs with “father’s” money (he still thinks I’m 18) and how unsuccessful I am and how poor daddy of mine he is. Grr. Looking forward to buy him.
Even Anna's mother described her daughter as being emotionally "unreachable" going all the way back to Anna's childhood days. There's no cure for sociopaths.
Yet, to become thus her environment growing up must of helped sadly, not being empathetic at a young age points to not being allowed to show emotion ie never properly learning neurotypical empathy in pivotal milestone years. ie if you start crying I'll give you something to cry about, so she found certainty in fashion and building a persona for herself . The most excitement is the mental chess game. As a child I collected dead birds because it felt safe, and they seemed peaceful to me, maybe because they didn't portray emotions I didn't understand, ie I saw no difference in alive or dead animals I just liked animals at 4 years old. Although as I got older ai was diagnosed with NPD and autism.
I wonder if a lot of that attributes to genetics, an imbalance somewhere that could never be cured. I guess it’s not the murdering kind, fortunately. I feel bad for the hard workers who were conned by her. I hope people remember her for being a con because it doesn’t look like she’s gonna stop, ever.
I know! I couldn't do the " fake friend" thing either. It's true these ppl don't have any empathy, but I believe they also enjoy it. Sometimes I even think that's the Real motivation behind it
There are all sorts of ways to justify it. I've seen it before only on a very different socio-economic level. There's a certain amount of believing their own BS, like thinking what they're doing is too important to worry about the details like how it will be paid for. There's sometimes a fantasy that "everything will be alright in the end", especially if they're big drinkers. There's also thinking that $60K is just "chump change" for someone like their victim so it really doesn't matter, and another I've seen is the idea that their friendship is so valuable that the other person won't mind spending that much for the time they've spent together.
So you all genuinely like everyone you work with or socialize with? I’m guessing you don’t but you put on an act to keep your job/ position or to get ahead. You are all doing the same thing just at a lower level.
I was so obsessed with this case. It's incredible how brazen she did all this! As always, Dr. Grande. I love your sense of humor and the shade you throw! 🤣🤣🤣 Great job, Dr. Grande!
@@andrewosborne3213 wow so.. are you sure he hasn't cause that would be such appropriate content for the channel. Where he was coming from is very strange and it's a mess where he is at psychologically now
@@rafaelfernandez725 I must be a bit gruesome I love the murder ones the most, I suppose I like to try and understand why anyone could take a persons life, how do they get to that point ?
I still can’t figure out how a freaking BANK loaned her $100k. Like...based on her word alone? They didn’t run her credit, check her income, etc? This whole story has always puzzled me.
@ozymandias nero nulifidian I'd give you all of it except the talent... The only talent the Kardashians have is playing the whole media circus to their benefit and that they do masterfully. It's just sad to see that we live in a society where this is possible.
@@jaynenunya6070 I wore them to Church last night!! Lolol I'm not kidding...Once per month, we have game night at our Church... and the ladies, we all do a bunch of cooking, taking all kinds of goodies up there There's a couple of us who like take a LOT and I'm the preacher's sister, so I am of one of these... (Got to represent the family you know!😁) ANYWAY, I had black stretch pants and a very pretty blouse during most of my cooking after I had I guess showered about 1:00 I don't know something...anyway so I had on these slacks and this really pretty blouse but I didn't want to put on my red boots until after all the cooking and was ready to go to church. WELL, I had been wearing socks all day for like house slippers...that's just who I am... I like to run around in socks... I was so tired by the time I got done cooking I told myself that I'm not wearing those boots with three inch heels!! SoI took off the dirty socks put on some clean white socks and I have a pair of old black soft leather flats that I wear that if I think I need to wear shoes outside with those socks on. Well, I just slipped them on and I said I really don't care what anybody thinks of how I look😁 Usually I dress up pretty well for church no matter what we're doing you know with makeup and everything...but girl, last night I just did not care cuz I have issues with my back... And my back was killing me...and I had to take a couple extra pain pills just to get through the day...by the time I ended up at church I had on nice pants beautiful blouse white socks and black shoes and I just felt like hey I just don't care what people think‼️I kind of laughed at myself and nobody at the church even noticed! EVERYBODY was too busy eating then they played "42"....(in case you don't know, it is a domino game played in the South that is similar to "Euchre" or "Spades")...anyway just thought I would add in that some of us will still wear those white socks and black shoes LOL LOL normally I would not go anywhere in those, you know what I mean??? just around the house cuz those shoes are comfortable but I've stretched them out so I have to wear the socks keep them on my feet 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Her plan hasn't failed yet... In our current world bad publicity is good publicity... she may just become the next best influencer when she returns from this.
Pretty great points! One point of sympathy for them.. they probably in part associate with other people they think are rich because they are worried people of less means are around them not out of affection but to leech finances.. which makes this a slightly more humourous case still
Not just glorious but sardonic & on point.... Identity is everything with these personas you can passively intimidate... Some very few of us are willing to point out the Emperor's wearing no clothes !
I find it a bit strange that he talks about them like they’re a homogeneous group, and doesn’t really define what an “elite” is. Is everyone rich elite? How rich?
The American novelist Scott Fitzgerald is supposed to have said once to Ernest Hemingway, 'You know, the rich are different from you and me. ' Hemingway replied, 'Yes. They've got more money.
@@Campfire30 Hemingway was great American wrIter, who was awarded the Nobel prize for literature. I wouldn’t describe him as simple minded. It was a witty response to another great American writer. That’s all.
One of the funniest parts of this was that a few of the socialites had picked her as a fraud very early on. How? They thought that if she was truly wealthy, she wouldn’t have such badly maintained hair with split ends. 😂
While Anna did these things, banks, businesses and people were complicit. She couldn't have lived that lifestyle, operating alone, without cooperation. That is not to relinquish her guilt whatsoever. Love Dr. Grande's flat out shade. Always looking forward to his videos; timely, insightful and spot-on.
Here's what people like her don't realize: these people are being "stupid", because they don't believe that SHE would be stupid enough to do what she did, because of the very likely legal consequences that will come from it. In the end, she is the one who went to prison, so yeah, nice long-term working strategy there. Ironically, because society is messed up, she got a Netflix deal out of the whole thing. I bet she will claim she planned that now.
@@SS-iw2nq I'm sure you mean well, but what Licia quoted there really isn't gaslighting... gaslighting would be more along the lines of "What do you mean? I haven't conned anyone. Show proof that I have conned you! You're paranoid!"
I am here after watching the series on Netflix. Thank you for this hilarious yet brilliant analysis!!! I still cannot believe she fooled so many people! Sadly, in many, many places shallowness is what actually rules!!!
Since she had worked at a fashion magazine, she knew well how to fake being a heiress, act aloof, overly important, be demanding, say things like "yea, my dad is at our chalet in Switzerland this weekend", as if it were normal. Some folks want to believe that their new friend is rich.
Great analysis, Dr Grande. Narcissists are so obsessed with their image and with being important. I saw an interview with Anna. She has absolutely no remorse.
@@joshburkhart4812 That was what I was about to write. Psychologists and Psychiatrists are very loathe to apply these labels because they aren't particularly helpful and the criteria are rather nebulous.
@@chilo8187 That is the truest truth today. Nowadays, every one and his brother is a 'narcissist' according to someone or other who learned it on UA-cam. Psychologists and Psychiatrists don't really use these labels as they are pragmatically pointless and the criteria are so nebulous and over-determined. I prefer that phrase. I learned it from a psychiatrist friend. Just in case: in means there are so many POSSIBLE combinations of POSSIBLE contributory factors that we can never establish the label in any meaningful way. We all have aspects of these 'disorders' in us but that is a far cry from having the full-blown personality disorder. There is no effective treatment anyway since these people are the least likely to see themselves as having any problem. It's those of us that get hit and run by them that need the therapists to help us heal.
Yes she had narcissistic behavior but I see more sociopathic behavior, it's was more executive of a end means rather than certainly of the future, also, she didn't see herself as a victim for admiration, yes she gaslighted and manipulate but sociopath shows less empathetic if and behavior rather narcissistic behavior is misplaced empathy which is something she didn't have..
i saw her being interviewed on Australian 48 hrs or something. She was so strange, smiling at serious questions where she was involved in deceit and stealing people's money and pre-tending to be someone she wasn't. She actually thought it was funny. And what was really odd was that she smilingly grinned and didn't think she'd done anything wrong. Ever!!! Spooky gal. Hope she was deported back to whatever rock she climbed out of.
Yes!!!! She sounded like a dingbat to me..Pretty sh*tty to stiff your "friend" on a cc bill..Not mad at her for playing the bank game,God knows they screw people regularly.
Well she actually didn’t really hurt anyone. The Rachel thing was shitty but Rachel came out with more money so she ended up profiting off of her. She redistributed a lot of money to low income workers (the staff) and she scammed a bank and a few hotels. And she ended up paying most of it back so it is actually kinda funny. Compared to what other people with personality disorders do this is not that bad. I think it’s more spooky if the Sacklers or the CEO‘s of tobacco companies say that they don’t believe they are responsible for making millions of addicts and killing tons of people.
Dr Grande's smooth burns on the elites is the greatest thing I've heard all day!😂And I am absolutely loving your patreon content! 😍Thank you for all you do doc!💜💜
The way Dr Grande breaks down things like what motivated people to be around people like this con artist such as “the desire to feel special” is so insightful and it’s what sets this channel apart from all others.
Excellent analysis Todd, about 20 years ago I spent about 12 months in a fly on the wall role in the London fashion industry.... you are 150% spot on in your analysis of these people... all paying £35 $50US for a gin and tonic without even blinking despite most of them being unable to afford it. Last week I was in London for a series of meetings..we had dinner in a relatively recent, vast hotel in the old Midland Bank HQ, built at the pinnacle of the British Empire, it was vast, beautiful, acres of marble etc.. the bar bill for 4 of us £750 or $1100US... 3 bottles of wine and two whisky sodas. About 2000 others spending simular amounts. I live in the far rural North of England. £750 is the rent on a family home for a month and more than most families live off up here in a month after tax... There were several Members of Parliament in that hotel bar, and I recognised several 'celebs'.. this at a time when inflation is hammering normal people... It was all rather disgusting. The Hunger Games in flesh.
The 1975 British Sit-Com Fawlty Towers, the episode titled 'A Touch of Class' explains quite beautifully how and why this sort of fraud is easily achieved! 🏆🇬🇧
It so does....Basil Fawlty falls completely for Lord Melbury's act, and then is made an utter fool of when the truth emerges - brilliant comparison by the way!
@@hanselmansell7555 Indeed!!! Basil’s fury at Lord Melbury is really his fury at himself, not that he’d ever admit to it...it’s one my favourite episodes of Fawlty Towers, just brilliant 😊
Great comparison! Basil fronted him the $ without knowing anything about him except that he called himself Lord Melbury. Anna just took it to the next level.
I found this a fascinating analysis. I have always thought the 'elite' were simply rich and didn't have other defining characteristics! Thank you for confirming my suspicions, Dr Grande!
@@xdrachel I had the same reaction, it infuriated me. No regret, no shame, nothing!! And after everything she is actually making money and is famous. In her case crime definitely paid off. I hope karma will do its job 🙏
Reminds me of Christopher Rocancourt. A Frenchman who claimed to be a member of the wealthy Rockefeller family in order to con the rich and famous out of $1.2 million was sentenced to nearly four years in prison.
For anyone interested, on You Tube “60 Minutes Australia Anna Sorokin” is an interview of her out of prison. She landed on her feet which ticked me off but then had the rug pulled out from under her which pleased me way more than it should. Don’t judge me. 🙂
The fact she was able to do all this with no money lol... just shows how many freebies rich people get when it comes to perks lol If you are wealthy and important you get all the goodies haha no one questions you until it’s too late
Great job as always. Very insightful regarding the elites. Also spot on about the hotels. In the 1990’s I worked at the Waldorf=Astoria. Senior management would swoon and disregard policy for anyone with a European or the right foreign accent.
You have to call out her race being a contributing factor as well! She fits the phenotype of what people assume to be wealthy. By contrast, if you're black and wealthy it's likely to be assumed that you're an entertainer or an athlete before others considerations. And I can speculate that you'd have to produce sufficient identification, credit check, etc., instead of being comped like she was.
I do agree that all this is probably easiER for a white person. But I honestly believe it's how you carry yourself, and other similar behaviors and features more than the color of one's skin. Anyone who TRULY believes they are elite/special/etc (a true narcissist) could probably pull it off.
This woman’s behavior and lifestyle symbolizes everything that I am against. Sadly enough, I am not surprised by the the fact that she was able to deceive so many people. Thank you for another thought-provoking review Dr. Grande!❤️
@@rejaneoliveira5019 the high life can be a lot of fun. As long as you don’t act like a jerk to other people while living it. But this girl just sounds like a pure sociopath.
Her only crime was being arrogant without the money! Think this how’s very clearly what the elites are!! Taking someone to court cos you thought you were gonna get a freebie holiday, but it turned out that Anna was😂 She had the holiday she had to pay for that’s all! These people are so greedy & arrogant I hope it happens to them over & over again!😂😂👍
Interesting topic, Dr. Grande. It always amazes me how some people can be so shallow, to the point of stupidity. How can they be so easily 'taken in' by these well dressed, and well rehearsed grifters? Great analysis, as always. The humor was right on point, too! Thanks. : )
I laughed all the way through this! Who knew you could get permission from a bank to overdraft to $100,000? And the comments about her prison fashion were gold. I am very thankful I have never had enough money to be shallow! 😂💸💸💸
Thanks for the analysis, Dr Grande. Always fascinated by what you say. I read the book and watched documentary about Anna made by 60 Minutes Australia.
You should watch the interview with her on 60 minutes Australia. Its infuriating to see she just doesn't care and got exactly what she always wanted: fame and money. And she's proud of how she got it.. In her case crime definitely pays off. She is making real money now left to right and is involved in the Netflix series and gets paid.. She's laughing her ass off..
I don't know what I find more mystifying: someone who has the chutzpah to brazenly lie about herself, or the people who could lack such discernment who became her victims. Your analysis of elites is quite insightful.
The differen between Frank Abagnale Jr. and this sleeze is actual intelligence. Frank passed the BAR Exam, while this idiot is a small "tent side" show freak.
10:10 This “don’t want to show up in court unless looking my best” seems a clearly narcissistic behavior. I remembered this other Dr. Grande analysis, one of a mass killer who posed like for a fashion magazine when they were taking him the mugshots. Such extreme points where narcissism becomes delusional.
On the other hand, the efforts of this was quite the heist and took some work, I’d say. People have become rich for way less, basically doing what she did but just getting to the summit. Or become politicians. His observations on the group that enveloped her is the main thing here IMO
The elitist, the exclusive, is more of an off putting behavior or mindset. Inclusion, inclusive, not making everything about financial status is more attractive.
Me and my friend pretended to be a rockstar and her agent. I would go in ahead and say out of the way please its XXXX . We got in to all sorts of exclusive glamorous parties and concerts, we never paid for anything and we're never challenged. Confidence is all.
I sat on a the jury of 7- week murder trial committed by two brothers who lived like this. They murdered the gay partner of the older brother in a life insurance scam to pay for the excesses of the bogus “trust fund baby” lie they had been living. I’m pleased to report that they are serving life, no possibility of parole, sentences, guilt on all counts: first degree pre-meditated murder, attempted kidnapping, murder for financial gain and commission of a murder by firearm.
There might be many investments out there but if profit must be considered,which is the actual sole of investment, I will advice you to go into bitcoin trading because it has higher profit than most investment.
I just see the documentary tv show about anna on Netflix. i don t have time to watch 9 episode of the show so i decide to come watch the 12min of your video about the case. thank you so much Dr. Todd for all your effort.
"Money Free Elite" That was golden. Hey Doc, let's have you do Clark Rockefeller and Jessica Krug next! What makes these fakes tick? These two are "burn rich" environments.
"She kept living the life of someone who had a lot of money, she was just missing the "money" part." Marvelous... You know, you've got to have talent to do that cause most of us just can't.
@@tamiefaw7970 Rachel Williams sold movie rights to her story to Lena Dunham for seventy thousand dollars. Then she wrote a book about Sorokin that brought in six hundred thousand. All said, she made back the money Sorokin stole from her ten times over. And the luxury hotels are still making money hand over fist. There’s no one who dealt with any lasting financial hardship because of Sorokin. When speculators and fraudsters destroyed the housing market in 2008, thousands lost their homes and no one went to jail. The OP is right. There’s a different set of rules for the rich and Sorokin’s only real crime was not having the starting capital to get to play by those rules.
@@elijahculper5522 No matter what “class” of people commit such a crime - it is still wrong! Anna is no heroic Robin Hood and most certainly should not be regarded as a role model or praised for her “efforts”. She deserves no pity whatsoever for being a liar and a fraud snd using her friends She knew full well her credit cards would not pay for the lavish Moroccan trip. She threw her friend under the bus. Any money Rachel made was well deserved for the heartache snd stress that Anna put on her. At the time of Anna scamming Rachel there was no thought of regaining any of her money in such a way. She simply turned a bad situation into an opportunity as anyone should have under same circumstances. I don’t believe there was an actual “Art” Center ever to be developed. With no equity snd large loans it would have been a miracle to survive and be a viable profitable business. Her lies of being an heiress show her true deceptive nature and bilking the hotels - one after another - is inexcusable. Her actions are completely reprehensible. And to try to justify or compare her actions by using the housing/banking bust or any other high profile Wall Street crime or white collar crime is morally wrong and corrupt. Wrong Is wrong. No matter who commits the crime. Bank kiting is a federal offence and the extent to which she did all this and using the money for obscene luxuries leaves no question in my mind that she would have used that 20.million - had she obtained it from the banks - recklessly and bankrupted any Art venture she supposedly was “envisioning”. The only vision Anna had was seeing Anna live a life she could not earn or maintain. A life she certainly didn’t deserve or anyone else who is a cheat and a fraud.
@@tamiefaw7970 you’re right. Anna was a thief. She didn’t deserve the lifestyle she was living. She’s not a role model. I just don’t have any sympathy for her victims. If nobody suffered as a result of an action, I don’t the the action should be illegal. And anyone she stole money from was so wealthy already that they never missed what she took. I think the vast majority of America’s ultra wealthy came into their money by exploiting others. Some exploit workers, others exploit customers, and others exploit the government. I don’t think any of these elites have come by their money legitimately. I don’t think any of them deserve that lifestyle while people starve. And I don’t think the government should concern itself with protecting the hoarded wealth of billionaires while actual violent crimes go unsolved because the victims are poor. I think in theft cases, the penalty should be based off of the financial hardship caused to victims. And in this case, there was none. I don’t want my kids growing up to be Anna Sorokin and I don’t want to live in a society where everyone acts like her. But I think that there are thousands of more dangerous individuals walking free. And I think that the taxpayer resources that were spent prosecuting and imprisoning Sorokin could have been better used going after people who actually hurt someone.
It's still incredible that someone could get away with such a charade. I sure would not be able to get any service I couldn't pay for. Those idiotic hotel managers -- did they not consider that someone who actually had money would have no issue presenting a credit card to keep on file?
Hey Dr. Grande would you consider doing a video on the Broken Arrow killings? It's one of the most disturbing cases I've ever seen and there's a lot of information/interrogation footage of the 2 boys who committed it. It could also be segued into discussing homeschooling/isolation and the effects they can have on children. (not saying that caused it only it would be an interesting topic). Love your channel man, it always gives me a lot to think about.
Surprised the term "narcissist" didn't come up here. She was the quintessential example of one. She had absolutely no concept of anything beyond what was in her own head. What blew me away watching Inventing Anna was the number of people who cared about this sociopath in the end. She would never even have considered sacrificing anything near what those people did for her.
Agree with you. I have just watched "60 Minutes Australia" about her and her Duper's delight smile on her face is just exasperating. Even the calm interviewer is at his wit's end hearing her narcisisstic stupid answers. Her little girl's voice is a cringe. We don't want her here back in Germany. Stay safe 😘
it's not ethical to diagnose (especially online) unless the said person is your patient. that said, I see what you mean, she exhibits many of those traits indeed.
@@misstokyo1994 I agree that we need to take care not to diagnose from a distance. But it is perfectly ok to make observations about a person’s blatantly obvious personality traits that they show to the world. Pointing out that someone is behaving in a narcissistic way, or in an antisocial way is NOT diagnosing them. It’s simply pointing out an observable behavioural trait. It would be the same as commenting that someone is conscientious. It seems to me that people with narcissistic traits have flipped the script so that everyone’s too afraid to say that word these days. I conclude that the narcissistic people have controlled the narrative so that nobody can call them out.
I rewatched this video after watching Inventing Anna on Netflix and the lesson this case reinforces is one I once commented in another video and that's you can't just blindly trust anyone and everyone cause many people don't have good intentions and will do harm to you with no remorse.
I'm ok with that, I'm not a hard *ss. I've never been in prison but I get the sense it's very unpleasent. I think 2 years and she learned her lessons.( I hope) 😔
@@erikparent8176 me too but when those convicted of rape and murder get sentenced to life without parole and get let out in 5 years and they can't even get put on probation because of "without parole" is what sets my hair on fire
This is fascinating. I have known of people who have done a small time version of this by going into massive revolving debt… fancy clothes and handbags, lavish overtipping at upscale restaurants, like the suburban version of this. This has shed some interesting light on that behavior. I’m just speculating, of course. Not diagnosing anyone. Great vid, Dr. Grande. Thank you.
The sad truth is that most of us try to always appear wealthier than we really are. Especially on social media this is very visible. The problem with Anna is that she went overboard with her act. Luckily I myself realized already at a young age that this doesn’t bring authentic nor permanent happiness!
Doctor Grande, please cover the case and death of *Sarah Halimi* who was murdered in France and did not receive justice. I watch all of your videos and your conclusions always resonate with mine. This case needs more attention. Keep on creating thought provoking analyses.
Never heard of her. Gives me a headache to hear of yet another superficial narcissist but always love listening to you good Dr G😉💟💚. Can you please consider the LOA? Thanks 🥰
"When Anna violated social norms or expectations, the behavior was attributed to her level of importance."
That single statement says so much.
I agree, like how elites tell everyone else how to live .
Great analysis of the situation,
It would be interesting to hear how you think she developed into this grifter.
@@Foundingmother1 I think one might be surprised just how much being a classically wealthy person utilizes the art of grifting. You don't get rich and stay rich by actually using your own money for stuff after all.
Lacey Ann, I agree 💯
@@matthewpeterson5281 good observation Matthew, I’ll have to ponder it for a bit! Thanks
I have my own business as a housekeeper, cook, and pet care specialist in NYC. Done it a little more than 8 years. Tried to work for a few of these people. They will try to suck you dry and drop you to the ground like a used tissue. Not everyone who is very rich is like this. People who have reached great wealth by degrading themselves will always throw you under the bus. Those who built themselves up often understand and appreciate someone who is honest and works hard and wants their home to shine.
While I'm retired due to demand I've been asked/involved with two land societies. and the juxtaposition is incredible. One group of hard working Engineers that saved their money (my age) are just wonderful to deal with. The other group who mainly didn't really work to make their money are insufferable.
This is basically how russian, especially russian women work. I met a lot of them while living in China and they all were very entitled and acted like the world moved around them. Most worked in prostitution related businesses but not because they were poor but to climb the social ladder. With prostitution money they would invest in designer clothing, proper bleached blonde hair and some beauty treatment as fillers.
Workings as guests in clubs and karaoke rooms they would have access to richer men, their main goal was to find a very rich husband. But in order to obtain that they couldnt look like gold diggers, their external status (clothing, and overall looks) would have to convince men they were not "gold diggers".
Just they are being played back because many of these men are already married but keep them as mistresses without them knowing. They still get some financial aid from this guys but not moving to another target and not demanding too much with the marriage promise.
They actually think the world owes them, especially western people. I had a ukranian roommate who would always borrow money but when she received her scholarship stipend she would immediately go spend on another things and not paying me back. I would have to remind her all the time. The odd thing is that she had some savings from a part time job but she wouldn't touch that money. Like she would spend her scholarship money and then borrow for me, instead of going to her savings. That's a really good plan, to live on loans that don't even come with interest rate and if lucky i could forget.
I am glad you wrote this. Some rich people are very admirable and hold themselves to the utmost standards in how they treat people. Which is actually how some of them became rich to begin with. And some rich people are bad, just like every other category of people.
Damn, if only I knew this sooner. My mother is in NYC and needs someone just like you. She is very generous as well. Is there a way of finding you if the woman she has moves on? Your name is Italian. My grandmother was Sicilian. She would never hire anyone unless they were Italian since she believed they did the best work, having been a fully trained tailor in her teens in Sicily. My mother would love it, too.
@@Sarablueunicorn sorry you experienced this chaos. I have relatives like this. It's sad. They are usually competing with siblings to see who can have the bigger house or most cars or most travel.
It's a family built on competition not love. I was always aware of this and I purposely would not work full time or I would self sabotage. I knew my relatives would try to steal my money by deception.
It's a sick cycle.
She took “fake it till you make it” to a whole other level!
if you think about it - that's actually how the entire lending system works
i take your money now, and "promise" to pay back later
once you take the money, you are on the clock
Wait till she signs the Book and Film deal ! ! Ker - ching !!
Bruh!
Yeah - the “Fake it till they bust you and you go to jail after all” level
“She was just missing the money part “. Yeah, that happens to me all the time! 😂
Me too.😁
😅🙌
Me too 😂🤣
Me during the weekends!
Lol 😆
Fun useless fact: "Sorokin" is derived from "soroka" ("сорока") which means "magpie". Just the surname for someone who likes shiny things.
I know! I just looked it up myself - Nominative Determinism!
Magpies are known for stealing shiny things, not just liking them.
Amazing!!
Interesting!
Clever girl for picking such an apt pseudonym.
She reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes a bit. Being so astoundingly cocky all while knowing they couldn't keep up this charade forever.
Excellent comparison.
At least Holmes started with good intentions but ended up doing some real harm to patients.
Yes they do have similar modus operandis. But you know in a way this woman shown the hypocrisy of the Arts. The people she robed are the ones who rob artists to maintain a life style in a murky mafioso business that is the Arts. I don't feel sorry for her victims, as they are also perpetrators . Kind screw kind. Good.
And Melissa Caddick. She was an Australian woman who defrauded many people before pulling a disappearing act. She was later found murdered.
The concept that they can't keep this up forever never enters their mind. My younger brother is/was just like this: there is no "empathy" chip and I used to change his diapers. I'm STILL changing his diapers, though more in the family adult mental shortage realm. I never saw it coming. When dad passed, the family legacy, any "cash" money, was gone. He still does it: sells family stuff and pockets the cash right in front of mom. Mom doesn't seem to get it.
I think she had deep-seated contempt for everyone, regardless of their station / class, and she took that disdain out on anyone who crossed her. She despised working class people and her own background as one of them and she was equally contemptuous towards people who had more money because she wasn’t one of them.
Exactly. I think she hated herself the most.
@@micheleparker8123 i don’t know... she sure got herself a lot of gifts for someone she didn’t like lol.
@@pembrokelove 🤣🤣🤣
@@pembrokelove Classic sign of overcompensation for insecurities. If you watch the Netflix series, the last episodes show how the new persona was "born" in her teens when her peers were making fun of her. I think she lived a life of fantasies that finally became realized as she got older. Her narcissism prevented her from any kind of understanding or empathy for anyone else. Every single relationship was transactional for her.
@@jenplinguist Yes. I overcompensate by overachieving for the insecurities created in me, too. I had to borrow 5000 dollars from my father to pay my partners because a Government customer attacked my Company and this was a big hit to my self confidence. I constantly feel like a failure and compensate for it by overachieving. Still I feel unsuccessful and useless. Just another opportunity for him to complaint about me to everyone that how much money he spent on my education abd doctors and how I danced until the morning in nightclubs with “father’s” money (he still thinks I’m 18) and how unsuccessful I am and how poor daddy of mine he is. Grr. Looking forward to buy him.
It's funny how Morocco caught her while the US is like 'durrr ok, here you go, take it!'
Haha we moroccans see right through
These people are used to deal with russky people who want to play a big role on holiday.
is it really that suprising that americans acted that way lol
Because she a “pretty” white girl lol they give them everything here
@@lonemaus562 You think she is pretty? Well dressed perhaps!
Even Anna's mother described her daughter as being emotionally "unreachable" going all the way back to Anna's childhood days. There's no cure for sociopaths.
In this case, clearly NPD is biological and not caused due to environmental factors
Yet, to become thus her environment growing up must of helped sadly, not being empathetic at a young age points to not being allowed to show emotion ie never properly learning neurotypical empathy in pivotal milestone years. ie if you start crying I'll give you something to cry about, so she found certainty in fashion and building a persona for herself . The most excitement is the mental chess game. As a child I collected dead birds because it felt safe, and they seemed peaceful to me, maybe because they didn't portray emotions I didn't understand, ie I saw no difference in alive or dead animals I just liked animals at 4 years old. Although as I got older ai was diagnosed with NPD and autism.
I wonder if a lot of that attributes to genetics, an imbalance somewhere that could never be cured. I guess it’s not the murdering kind, fortunately. I feel bad for the hard workers who were conned by her. I hope people remember her for being a con because it doesn’t look like she’s gonna stop, ever.
She comes def from a psychopath family. Psychopathy is genetic
@@lalam3877 gurl she wasnt robbing hard workers BFFR
These con artists are fascinating. I can't imagine pretending to be a friend while plotting to stick them with $60k in credit card bills!
*It takes an unempathetic, cold person to do something like that.*
I know! I couldn't do the " fake friend" thing either. It's true these ppl don't have any empathy, but I believe they also enjoy it. Sometimes I even think that's the Real motivation behind it
There are all sorts of ways to justify it. I've seen it before only on a very different socio-economic level. There's a certain amount of believing their own BS, like thinking what they're doing is too important to worry about the details like how it will be paid for. There's sometimes a fantasy that "everything will be alright in the end", especially if they're big drinkers. There's also thinking that $60K is just "chump change" for someone like their victim so it really doesn't matter, and another I've seen is the idea that their friendship is so valuable that the other person won't mind spending that much for the time they've spent together.
So you all genuinely like everyone you work with or socialize with? I’m guessing you don’t but you put on an act to keep your job/ position or to get ahead. You are all doing the same thing just at a lower level.
@@cecee3480 No, not all people are fake just for their own personal gains, thankfully.
I was so obsessed with this case. It's incredible how brazen she did all this!
As always, Dr. Grande. I love your sense of humor and the shade you throw! 🤣🤣🤣
Great job, Dr. Grande!
@@polarbearsrus6980 that is so true!
YAY! i asked Dr G to do Anna Sorokin like, 3 days ago! amazing as usual!
I've been waiting for this one.
Damn that's lucky I been asking him to do Martin Bryant who was responsible for the Port Arthur Massacre in Australia. Maybe one day
And if you didn't, we'll never know unless Dr Grande contradicts you and makes you and instant internet influencer!
@@andrewosborne3213 wow so.. are you sure he hasn't cause that would be such appropriate content for the channel. Where he was coming from is very strange and it's a mess where he is at psychologically now
LOL.......'.A money free elite' it's that kind of humour along with your wisdom that keeps your subscriber numbers rising Dr Grande.
totally agree, this is why I keep coming back. However the murder stuff, maybe not do so many of those?
@@rafaelfernandez725 I must be a bit gruesome I love the murder ones the most, I suppose I like to try and understand why anyone could take a persons life, how do they get to that point ?
I still can’t figure out how a freaking BANK loaned her $100k. Like...based on her word alone? They didn’t run her credit, check her income, etc? This whole story has always puzzled me.
Those banks are staffed by cretins just like Anna Sorokin 😏
Reminds me of a certain ex president.😁
@ozymandias nero nulifidian I'd give you all of it except the talent... The only talent the Kardashians have is playing the whole media circus to their benefit and that they do masterfully. It's just sad to see that we live in a society where this is possible.
It’s cause she’s a CIA asset
That’s why it doesn’t make sense
@ozymandias nero nulifidian fact
Thank you Dr Grande for your daily uploads, you give my life structure amidst the chaos I feel at this time.
10:46... "With that lethal fashion sense you don't need a knife" LOLS
Can't stop laughing... this line is imortal...
I actually had to use the time stamp realizing I was laughing so hard I didn't get a single word from what he said next. WTG Dr. Grande. WTG.
Still laughing 🤣 My mans got zingers.
fatality...
My favourite line !
“Really, white socks with black shoes and cargo pants?”.
“With that lethal fashion sense, you don’t need the knife”.
Best pun of the video.
💯 I literally audibly lolled
white stockings...black shoes...shouldn't be allowed in the church~
Are y'all bullying me??? I wore them last night‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jaynenunya6070 I wore them to Church last night!! Lolol I'm not kidding...Once per month, we have game night at our Church... and the ladies, we all do a bunch of cooking, taking all kinds of goodies up there
There's a couple of us who like take a LOT and I'm the preacher's sister, so I am of one of these... (Got to represent the family you know!😁) ANYWAY, I had black stretch pants and a very pretty blouse during most of my cooking after I had I guess showered about 1:00 I don't know something...anyway so I had on these slacks and this really pretty blouse but I didn't want to put on my red boots until after all the cooking and was ready to go to church. WELL, I had been wearing socks all day for like house slippers...that's just who I am... I like to run around in socks... I was so tired by the time I got done cooking I told myself that I'm not wearing those boots with three inch heels!! SoI took off the dirty socks put on some clean white socks and I have a pair of old black soft leather flats that I wear that if I think I need to wear shoes outside with those socks on. Well, I just slipped them on and I said I really don't care what anybody thinks of how I look😁 Usually I dress up pretty well for church no matter what we're doing you know with makeup and everything...but girl, last night I just did not care cuz I have issues with my back... And my back was killing me...and I had to take a couple extra pain pills just to get through the day...by the time I ended up at church I had on nice pants beautiful blouse white socks and black shoes and I just felt like hey I just don't care what people think‼️I kind of laughed at myself and nobody at the church even noticed! EVERYBODY was too busy eating then they played "42"....(in case you don't know, it is a domino game played in the South that is similar to "Euchre" or "Spades")...anyway just thought I would add in that some of us will still wear those white socks and black shoes LOL LOL normally I would not go anywhere in those, you know what I mean??? just around the house cuz those shoes are comfortable but I've stretched them out so I have to wear the socks keep them on my feet 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
This is what made me laugh too. Brilliant!😂👏 Call the fashion police.
Her plan hasn't failed yet... In our current world bad publicity is good publicity... she may just become the next best influencer when she returns from this.
No, in our current word there is no bad publicity and there is no good publicity. There's just publicity.
That’s all instagram is…a narcissist’s wet dream come true. Sick how people find this “normal”.
Movie made, book written
Dr. Grande's multiple burns on the elites was glorious 👍
Pretty great points!
One point of sympathy for them.. they probably in part associate with other people they think are rich because they are worried people of less means are around them not out of affection but to leech finances.. which makes this a slightly more humourous case still
He’s like a heavyweight champion up in here 😂
Not just glorious
but sardonic & on point....
Identity is everything with these personas you can passively intimidate...
Some very few of us are willing to point out the Emperor's wearing no clothes !
Correction..
who can passively intimidate you/ others..
I find it a bit strange that he talks about them like they’re a homogeneous group, and doesn’t really define what an “elite” is. Is everyone rich elite? How rich?
The American novelist Scott Fitzgerald is supposed to have said once to Ernest Hemingway, 'You know, the rich are different from you and me. ' Hemingway replied, 'Yes. They've got more money.
I agree with Fitzgerald on that one. They are different in many ways
Love that quotable quote!
@@Campfire30 Hemingway was great American wrIter, who was awarded the Nobel prize for literature. I wouldn’t describe him as simple minded. It was a witty response to another great American writer. That’s all.
One of the funniest parts of this was that a few of the socialites had picked her as a fraud very early on. How? They thought that if she was truly wealthy, she wouldn’t have such badly maintained hair with split ends. 😂
@@therealdeal3672 We all need haircuts. Lockdown locks. Hairdressers just reopened and they have a waiting list
This is what I was thinking immediately. Girl needed a hair mask BAD.
that's just the kind of weird thing they're very judgemental on
@@thomashyle6098 if the judgement fits...
@@thomashyle6098
Right. It is a very petty thing to notice for determining someone's wealth.
While Anna did these things, banks, businesses and people were complicit. She couldn't have lived that lifestyle, operating alone, without cooperation. That is not to relinquish her guilt whatsoever. Love Dr. Grande's flat out shade. Always looking forward to his videos; timely, insightful and spot-on.
On an Australian documentary Anna Sorokin said something like "I have no remorse - if people want to be that stupid it is their choice".
Definition of a gas lighting narcissist.
@@SS-iw2nq AND a sociopath
Here's what people like her don't realize: these people are being "stupid", because they don't believe that SHE would be stupid enough to do what she did, because of the very likely legal consequences that will come from it. In the end, she is the one who went to prison, so yeah, nice long-term working strategy there. Ironically, because society is messed up, she got a Netflix deal out of the whole thing. I bet she will claim she planned that now.
@@SS-iw2nq I'm sure you mean well, but what Licia quoted there really isn't gaslighting... gaslighting would be more along the lines of "What do you mean? I haven't conned anyone. Show proof that I have conned you! You're paranoid!"
The deadpan humor gets even funnier with each video. Love this channel.
I am here after watching the series on Netflix. Thank you for this hilarious yet brilliant analysis!!! I still cannot believe she fooled so many people! Sadly, in many, many places shallowness is what actually rules!!!
Since she had worked at a fashion magazine, she knew well how to fake being a heiress, act aloof, overly important, be demanding, say things like "yea, my dad is at our chalet in Switzerland this weekend", as if it were normal. Some folks want to believe that their new friend is rich.
Do you blame the victims for getting conned because they are "shallow?" Do you think a real licensed clinician would do that?
Great analysis, Dr Grande. Narcissists are so obsessed with their image and with being important. I saw an interview with Anna. She has absolutely no remorse.
My daily fix of Dr Grande, soothes my soul after a busy day❤️
I found it interesting that Dr. Grande never used the word “narcissist” in his analysis.
Yes. He does a good job of not giving labels, even when he gives a breakdown of the criteria needed to have such labels.
Because it’s so overused it means nothing anymore
@@joshburkhart4812 That was what I was about to write. Psychologists and Psychiatrists are very loathe to apply these labels because they aren't particularly helpful and the criteria are rather nebulous.
@@chilo8187 That is the truest truth today. Nowadays, every one and his brother is a 'narcissist' according to someone or other who learned it on UA-cam. Psychologists and Psychiatrists don't really use these labels as they are pragmatically pointless and the criteria are so nebulous and over-determined. I prefer that phrase. I learned it from a psychiatrist friend. Just in case: in means there are so many POSSIBLE combinations of POSSIBLE contributory factors that we can never establish the label in any meaningful way. We all have aspects of these 'disorders' in us but that is a far cry from having the full-blown personality disorder. There is no effective treatment anyway since these people are the least likely to see themselves as having any problem. It's those of us that get hit and run by them that need the therapists to help us heal.
Yes she had narcissistic behavior but I see more sociopathic behavior, it's was more executive of a end means rather than certainly of the future, also, she didn't see herself as a victim for admiration, yes she gaslighted and manipulate but sociopath shows less empathetic if and behavior rather narcissistic behavior is misplaced empathy which is something she didn't have..
i saw her being interviewed on Australian 48 hrs or something. She was so strange, smiling at serious questions where she was involved in deceit and stealing people's money and pre-tending to be someone she wasn't. She actually thought it was funny. And what was really odd was that she smilingly grinned and didn't think she'd done anything wrong. Ever!!! Spooky gal. Hope she was deported back to whatever rock she climbed out of.
That giggle was super creepy!
TOTALLY SOCIALLY PATHOLOGICAL!!!
Yes!!!! She sounded like a dingbat to me..Pretty sh*tty to stiff your "friend" on a cc bill..Not mad at her for playing the bank game,God knows they screw people regularly.
Well she actually didn’t really hurt anyone. The Rachel thing was shitty but Rachel came out with more money so she ended up profiting off of her. She redistributed a lot of money to low income workers (the staff) and she scammed a bank and a few hotels. And she ended up paying most of it back so it is actually kinda funny. Compared to what other people with personality disorders do this is not that bad.
I think it’s more spooky if the Sacklers or the CEO‘s of tobacco companies say that they don’t believe they are responsible for making millions of addicts and killing tons of people.
Omg I thought she was creepy too….like psycho lol
You're developing some fine stand up comedy material here, excellent!
Damn! the shades keeps coming. The sun cannot handle this one 😂😂😂😂😂. "A two for one special". I was on the floor 😭😂. "The money free version" 😭😭😭
Oh man, loool, the shade is so deep I can't see my hand in front of me.
Ikr, all with a straight face 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Dr Grande's smooth burns on the elites is the greatest thing I've heard all day!😂And I am absolutely loving your patreon content! 😍Thank you for all you do doc!💜💜
The way Dr Grande breaks down things like what motivated people to be around people like this con artist such as “the desire to feel special” is so insightful and it’s what sets this channel apart from all others.
They all wanted that rich friend to take them out, spend on them, and make them feel like VIPs.
Excellent analysis Todd, about 20 years ago I spent about 12 months in a fly on the wall role in the London fashion industry.... you are 150% spot on in your analysis of these people... all paying £35 $50US for a gin and tonic without even blinking despite most of them being unable to afford it.
Last week I was in London for a series of meetings..we had dinner in a relatively recent, vast hotel in the old Midland Bank HQ, built at the pinnacle of the British Empire, it was vast, beautiful, acres of marble etc.. the bar bill for 4 of us £750 or $1100US... 3 bottles of wine and two whisky sodas. About 2000 others spending simular amounts. I live in the far rural North of England. £750 is the rent on a family home for a month and more than most families live off up here in a month after tax...
There were several Members of Parliament in that hotel bar, and I recognised several 'celebs'.. this at a time when inflation is hammering normal people...
It was all rather disgusting.
The Hunger Games in flesh.
Much as I love Dr Grande, I enjoy the witty and sometimes hilarious comments as well. Double whammy! 🇬🇧
The 1975 British Sit-Com Fawlty Towers, the episode titled 'A Touch of Class' explains quite beautifully how and why this sort of fraud is easily achieved! 🏆🇬🇧
It so does....Basil Fawlty falls completely for Lord Melbury's act, and then is made an utter fool of when the truth emerges - brilliant comparison by the way!
@@hanselmansell7555 Indeed!!! Basil’s fury at Lord Melbury is really his fury at himself, not that he’d ever admit to it...it’s one my favourite episodes of Fawlty Towers, just brilliant 😊
You've got quite a memory old timer
@@Ssm19494 old timer nothing - there's this thing called Google
Great comparison! Basil fronted him the $ without knowing anything about him except that he called himself Lord Melbury. Anna just took it to the next level.
Dr Grandes videos are the only ones I press “like” on before I even watch
me too
Yay! Him and True Crime Loser for me! 🥰
Me too!
Seconding that😊
Yes me too
I found this a fascinating analysis. I have always thought the 'elite' were simply rich and didn't have other defining characteristics! Thank you for confirming my suspicions, Dr Grande!
60 Minutes Australia interviewed this girl...omg...if you haven’t seen please go watch it on UA-cam.
I wanted to slap that stupid smile off her face lol. She's clearly an extreme narcissist.
@@xdrachel I had the same reaction, it infuriated me. No regret, no shame, nothing!!
And after everything she is actually making money and is famous.
In her case crime definitely paid off.
I hope karma will do its job 🙏
Here's the new video! My agreableness rises and my neurocity is already down :-)
Omg yess! ive always wanted to hear your take on this case
Reminds me of Christopher Rocancourt. A Frenchman who claimed to be a member of the wealthy Rockefeller family in order to con the rich and famous out of $1.2 million was sentenced to nearly four years in prison.
Don't forget his "spiritual cousin" Clark Rockefeller. He had quite a grift going too!
Peanuts ! Compared to Bernie Madoff ...
Being asked to go on a lavish expenses paid holiday would make me feel uncomfortable, particularly if it's entirely out of your financial league!
For anyone interested, on You Tube “60 Minutes Australia Anna Sorokin” is an interview of her out of prison. She landed on her feet which ticked me off but then had the rug pulled out from under her which pleased me way more than it should. Don’t judge me. 🙂
LOL! The fashion sense commentary, lol! Oh, lovely to laugh - Thank you, Dr. Grande! This was a fun one!
There needs to be a DMSV diagnosis just called "Grifter".
"...with that lethal fashion sense, you don't need the knife." 😅🤣😂
The fact she was able to do all this with no money lol... just shows how many freebies rich people get when it comes to perks lol
If you are wealthy and important you get all the goodies haha no one questions you until it’s too late
Great job as always. Very insightful regarding the elites. Also spot on about the hotels. In the 1990’s I worked at the Waldorf=Astoria. Senior management would swoon and disregard policy for anyone with a European or the right foreign accent.
Love your content!
Hope you are doing good Dr Grande.
I actually laughed out loud at the "fashion crime" jokes. 🤣 Best humour!
„She moved to Germany... London... New York...“ - how? You can’t just move there, how did she do that?
@Charlie Bee ... but she had no money!!!?
I was waiting for your analysis of what made Anna tick, but still interesting!
Excellent analysis as always. Thank you Dr. Grande.
You have to call out her race being a contributing factor as well!
She fits the phenotype of what people assume to be wealthy.
By contrast, if you're black and wealthy it's likely to be assumed that you're an entertainer or an athlete before others considerations.
And I can speculate that you'd have to produce sufficient identification, credit check, etc., instead of being comped like she was.
I do agree that all this is probably easiER for a white person. But I honestly believe it's how you carry yourself, and other similar behaviors and features more than the color of one's skin. Anyone who TRULY believes they are elite/special/etc (a true narcissist) could probably pull it off.
If African countries have wealthy socialites they will get away with it also
Dr. Grande you are low key very funny. The end of this video was "monotone comedy" gold! Truth gold as well!
This woman’s behavior and lifestyle symbolizes everything that I am against. Sadly enough, I am not surprised by the the fact that she was able to deceive so many people.
Thank you for another thought-provoking review Dr. Grande!❤️
@@jjm2948 Yes, I have seen that.
I personally find the “high life” very unfulfilling, I can’t relate.
@@rejaneoliveira5019 the high life can be a lot of fun. As long as you don’t act like a jerk to other people while living it. But this girl just sounds like a pure sociopath.
Her only crime was being arrogant without the money! Think this how’s very clearly what the elites are!!
Taking someone to court cos you thought you were gonna get a freebie holiday, but it turned out that Anna was😂 She had the holiday she had to pay for that’s all! These people are so greedy & arrogant I hope it happens to them over & over again!😂😂👍
Agreed 💯
Palm Beach has its own grifters. In different form, but here all the same.
Imagine Dr. Grande writing a diss track against someone. He’d be ending careers left and right.
Love the shirt Dr Grande 🙌🏻 and also loved the video I have not heard about the case before! Very interesting 🤗 loved how you crashed “elites” too 💪🏼
"A 2-for-1 special." Love it, Dr. Grande!
Interesting topic, Dr. Grande. It always amazes me how some people can be so shallow, to the point of stupidity. How can they be so easily 'taken in' by these well dressed, and well rehearsed grifters? Great analysis, as always. The humor was right on point, too! Thanks. : )
@@SpecialBlanket That might be true, but I'm kind of cynical and negative. They'd probably throw me out.
I laughed all the way through this! Who knew you could get permission from a bank to overdraft to $100,000? And the comments about her prison fashion were gold. I am very thankful I have never had enough money to be shallow! 😂💸💸💸
Thanks for the analysis, Dr Grande. Always fascinated by what you say. I read the book and watched documentary about Anna made by 60 Minutes Australia.
There is going to be a docu drama about this, with Julia Garner from Ozark playing Anna. It is called Inventing Anna. I am looking forward to that!
There's going to be 2 series - one on Netflix one on HBO. Can't wait!
I hope she’s not profiting from her crime. 🤔
@@mercury_rising One of her victims is reportedly going to be credited as a writer on the HBO series
You should watch the interview with her on 60 minutes Australia. Its infuriating to see she just doesn't care and got exactly what she always wanted: fame and money. And she's proud of how she got it..
In her case crime definitely pays off. She is making real money now left to right and is involved in the Netflix series and gets paid..
She's laughing her ass off..
@@mercury_rising She has a merch range
Just finished binged-watch the netflix 9 episodes of her, Inventing Anna. "Reality suspended", indeed. Have a good day, Dr. Grande :)
Amen Dr G! You are an insightful philosopher 🙏
I don't know what I find more mystifying: someone who has the chutzpah to brazenly lie about herself, or the people who could lack such discernment who became her victims. Your analysis of elites is quite insightful.
This completely reminds me of the movie 🍿 🎥 Catch Me if you Can
Surprised she didn’t try to perform surgery or fly a plane ✈️ 🙌😉
She probably would have tried riskier behavior if she wasn't caught.
The differen between Frank Abagnale Jr. and this sleeze is actual intelligence. Frank passed the BAR Exam, while this idiot is a small "tent side" show freak.
@@mikepagliaro2123 Lol!
Or the talented mr Ripley
A long time ago it is said Dr. Grande once diagnosed someone and did not speculate.
10:10 This “don’t want to show up in court unless looking my best” seems a clearly narcissistic behavior. I remembered this other Dr. Grande analysis, one of a mass killer who posed like for a fashion magazine when they were taking him the mugshots. Such extreme points where narcissism becomes delusional.
look at the Boston bomber!
Thank you for this video Dr Grande!
Anna wanted to to be rich without doing the work, getting a job. It’s sad but funny at the same time. Great video. Dr Grande.
You think she didn’t work harder than all the trust fund babies? Idk if you know what being “rich” means.
Lol your comment implies she could have became rich just by getting a job...
@@lesliecas2695 that's a brilliant statement..equal to any that Dr G just made !
On the other hand, the efforts of this was quite the heist and took some work, I’d say. People have become rich for way less, basically doing what she did but just getting to the summit. Or become politicians. His observations on the group that enveloped her is the main thing here IMO
Most of the people she was hanging around with and stealing from had never done any work or had any job themselves.
HOORAY!! Dr. Grande DID analyze Anna! ⚘
Some “elites” got there through hard work and struggle and are paying it forward. Not all rich people are evil.
This is so true. As with any other group of people, you can't paint everyone with the same brush.
The elitist, the exclusive, is more of an off putting behavior or mindset.
Inclusion, inclusive, not making everything about financial status is more attractive.
Ofcause not, some are quite brilliant both emotionally and intellectually - but his shade is the best.
Me and my friend pretended to be a rockstar and her agent. I would go in ahead and say out of the way please its XXXX . We got in to all sorts of exclusive glamorous parties and concerts, we never paid for anything and we're never challenged. Confidence is all.
What a load of crap...
You hit the nail on the head! Enjoyed your take on her.
Lack of money is a tedious detail so many of us encounter 🙄
Another brilliant breakdown, thank you Dr Grande 😊
I sat on a the jury of 7- week murder trial committed by two brothers who lived like this. They murdered the gay partner of the older brother in a life insurance scam to pay for the excesses of the bogus “trust fund baby” lie they had been living. I’m pleased to report that they are serving life, no possibility of parole, sentences, guilt on all counts: first degree pre-meditated murder, attempted kidnapping, murder for financial gain and commission of a murder by firearm.
We should be careful on money useage,if you are not spending to earn back,then stop spending.
True ! Even some rich men made it through investing there money in something doing and they made it.
I do real estate,stock market ,forest trade and cryptosystem.
The right chioce of an investment has always been a big problem for me I know picking a wrong investment will leave a big scar in the future
There might be many investments out there but if profit must be considered,which is the actual sole of investment, I will advice you to go into bitcoin trading because it has higher profit than most investment.
@@samanthavivian3916 Of course it is profitable,I made good profit of $20,000 with the capital of $4500 in my last trading I have made over $200,000.
I just see the documentary tv show about anna on Netflix. i don t have time to watch 9 episode of the show so i decide to come watch the 12min of your video about the case. thank you so much Dr. Todd for all your effort.
"Money Free Elite"
That was golden.
Hey Doc, let's have you do Clark Rockefeller and Jessica Krug next! What makes these fakes tick?
These two are "burn rich" environments.
My first thought was Germany! Wasn't Clark Rockfeller from Germany too! Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter
"She kept living the life of someone who had a lot of money, she was just missing the "money" part." Marvelous... You know, you've got to have talent to do that cause most of us just can't.
When rich people defraud poor people, it's legal. When poor people defraud rich people, it's a crime.
Exactly. I think if I was one of her jurors, I probably would have nullified.
She was defrauding hotels and her best friend! Hardly the RICH!!! she was disgusting on any level!
@@tamiefaw7970 Rachel Williams sold movie rights to her story to Lena Dunham for seventy thousand dollars. Then she wrote a book about Sorokin that brought in six hundred thousand. All said, she made back the money Sorokin stole from her ten times over. And the luxury hotels are still making money hand over fist. There’s no one who dealt with any lasting financial hardship because of Sorokin. When speculators and fraudsters destroyed the housing market in 2008, thousands lost their homes and no one went to jail. The OP is right. There’s a different set of rules for the rich and Sorokin’s only real crime was not having the starting capital to get to play by those rules.
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No matter what “class” of people commit such a crime - it is still wrong! Anna is no heroic Robin Hood and most certainly should not be regarded as a role model or praised for her “efforts”. She deserves no pity whatsoever for being a liar and a fraud snd using her friends She knew full well her credit cards would not pay for the lavish Moroccan trip. She threw her friend under the bus. Any money Rachel made was well deserved for the heartache snd stress that Anna put on her. At the time of Anna scamming Rachel there was no thought of regaining any of her money in such a way. She simply turned a bad situation into an opportunity as anyone should have under same circumstances. I don’t believe there was an actual “Art” Center ever to be developed. With no equity snd large loans it would have been a miracle to survive and be a viable profitable business. Her lies of being an heiress show her true deceptive nature and bilking the hotels - one after another - is inexcusable. Her actions are completely reprehensible. And to try to justify or compare her actions by using the housing/banking bust or any other high profile Wall Street crime or white collar crime is morally wrong and corrupt. Wrong Is wrong. No matter who commits the crime. Bank kiting is a federal offence and the extent to which she did all this and using the money for obscene luxuries leaves no question in my mind that she would have used that 20.million - had she obtained it from the banks - recklessly and bankrupted any Art venture she supposedly was “envisioning”. The only vision Anna had was seeing Anna live a life she could not earn or maintain. A life she certainly didn’t deserve or anyone else who is a cheat and a fraud.
@@tamiefaw7970 you’re right. Anna was a thief. She didn’t deserve the lifestyle she was living. She’s not a role model. I just don’t have any sympathy for her victims. If nobody suffered as a result of an action, I don’t the the action should be illegal. And anyone she stole money from was so wealthy already that they never missed what she took. I think the vast majority of America’s ultra wealthy came into their money by exploiting others. Some exploit workers, others exploit customers, and others exploit the government. I don’t think any of these elites have come by their money legitimately. I don’t think any of them deserve that lifestyle while people starve. And I don’t think the government should concern itself with protecting the hoarded wealth of billionaires while actual violent crimes go unsolved because the victims are poor. I think in theft cases, the penalty should be based off of the financial hardship caused to victims. And in this case, there was none. I don’t want my kids growing up to be Anna Sorokin and I don’t want to live in a society where everyone acts like her. But I think that there are thousands of more dangerous individuals walking free. And I think that the taxpayer resources that were spent prosecuting and imprisoning Sorokin could have been better used going after people who actually hurt someone.
It's still incredible that someone could get away with such a charade. I sure would not be able to get any service I couldn't pay for. Those idiotic hotel managers -- did they not consider that someone who actually had money would have no issue presenting a credit card to keep on file?
So glad you're over 1 million subscribers! Congratulations!!
Hey Dr. Grande would you consider doing a video on the Broken Arrow killings? It's one of the most disturbing cases I've ever seen and there's a lot of information/interrogation footage of the 2 boys who committed it. It could also be segued into discussing homeschooling/isolation and the effects they can have on children. (not saying that caused it only it would be an interesting topic). Love your channel man, it always gives me a lot to think about.
By far the best take on this case I’ve ever heard.
Surprised the term "narcissist" didn't come up here. She was the quintessential example of one. She had absolutely no concept of anything beyond what was in her own head. What blew me away watching Inventing Anna was the number of people who cared about this sociopath in the end. She would never even have considered sacrificing anything near what those people did for her.
Agree with you. I have just watched "60 Minutes Australia"
about her and her Duper's delight smile on her face is just exasperating. Even the calm interviewer is at his wit's end hearing her narcisisstic stupid answers. Her little girl's voice is a cringe. We don't want her here back in Germany. Stay safe 😘
Totally agree with you. I hated the ending because of that. Everyone was cheering her on to get away with it. Just gross.
it's not ethical to diagnose (especially online) unless the said person is your patient. that said, I see what you mean, she exhibits many of those traits indeed.
@@danielahoti4109 I just watched it too. What a psychopath! The journalist was like WTAF is wrong with this girl???
@@misstokyo1994 I agree that we need to take care not to diagnose from a distance. But it is perfectly ok to make observations about a person’s blatantly obvious personality traits that they show to the world. Pointing out that someone is behaving in a narcissistic way, or in an antisocial way is NOT diagnosing them. It’s simply pointing out an observable behavioural trait. It would be the same as commenting that someone is conscientious. It seems to me that people with narcissistic traits have flipped the script so that everyone’s too afraid to say that word these days. I conclude that the narcissistic people have controlled the narrative so that nobody can call them out.
Good afternoon Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis. Great Topic as usual. Thank you Dr Grande ,hope you have a great day.
I'm not even mad, that's amazing.
Lol!
I'm not, either. 😆
I simply love your witty subtle sense of humor 😄
I rewatched this video after watching Inventing Anna on Netflix and the lesson this case reinforces is one I once commented in another video and that's you can't just blindly trust anyone and everyone cause many people don't have good intentions and will do harm to you with no remorse.
Watched her interview on 60min. Great analysis Dr.
She gets 4 to 12 years in prison but gets out in less than 2 years.
I don't understand the American justice system or its sentencing
I'm ok with that, I'm not a hard *ss.
I've never been in prison but I get the sense it's very unpleasent.
I think 2 years and she learned her lessons.( I hope) 😔
@@erikparent8176 me too but when those convicted of rape and murder get sentenced to life without parole and get let out in 5 years and they can't even get put on probation because of "without parole" is what sets my hair on fire
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I understand.
Some people are too dangerous to be free in society.
@@erikparent8176 I doubt it. She's probably thinking of new ways to defraud people..
@@micheleparker8123
Then she will get a free ride in a paddy wagon. 😥😳
This is fascinating. I have known of people who have done a small time version of this by going into massive revolving debt… fancy clothes and handbags, lavish overtipping at upscale restaurants, like the suburban version of this. This has shed some interesting light on that behavior. I’m just speculating, of course. Not diagnosing anyone. Great vid, Dr. Grande. Thank you.
The sad truth is that most of us try to always appear wealthier than we really are. Especially on social media this is very visible. The problem with Anna is that she went overboard with her act. Luckily I myself realized already at a young age that this doesn’t bring authentic nor permanent happiness!
Doctor Grande, please cover the case and death of *Sarah Halimi* who was murdered in France and did not receive justice. I watch all of your videos and your conclusions always resonate with mine. This case needs more attention. Keep on creating thought provoking analyses.
Never heard of her. Gives me a headache to hear of yet another superficial narcissist but always love listening to you good Dr G😉💟💚. Can you please consider the LOA? Thanks 🥰
She ripped off other narcissists though, which makes me smile.🙂
@@leonieromanes7265 Haha good point.
😂😎 Sooo loved your very clever, witty sarcasm throughout this entire episode, Dr. Grande....you're billiant on every level!
Think Bam Margera would be a fascinating, albeit depressing, "case" to analyze. Love your videos - - thanks.