Nikolas Cruz Case Analysis | How the System Failed
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Do they really count as *missed* warning signs if they're actively ignored?
well said!
Same exact scenario as Eric Harris. Ignored all the red flags
Actively ignored and cost more than 1 dozen people their lives.
I mean, you can technically “miss” a bus if you don’t get on it when it comes. 🤷🏼♀️
I feel like that’s a fitting metaphor...
There were “bus-sized” clues in this case 🤦🏼♀️😖
My nephew was in Majorie Stoneman Douglas HS shooting. Before hearing Dr. Grande’s analysis, I just want to let you know that almost all the students knew it was Nikolas when the shooting began. If that doesn’t speak volumes as to how the system failed those students and faculty that day, then I don’t know what? My nephew was lucky and is with us today. Thank you always Dr. Grande.
Wow, that makes this case even sadder, for the victims, and even for NC. 😕
I would sue the police department
@@lulumoon6942 It seems that it wasn’t just the police department that failed these children and staff.
And the armed, uniformed school resource police officer was on scene, unaware & had his thumb in his butt ?
I hope your nephew gets lifelong therapy from the state... but I know that’s a pipe dream. Just hoping & praying for healing for everyone involved, namely the students, faculty, & their families. 🙏😢
"Not all horrible behaviors can be explained by mental health disorders" Thank you! I hate hearing people push mental health every time...like we need more stigma. I'm ADHD and so are many of my friends and we wouldn't hurt anyone.
Well ADHD ain't a mental health disorder but I get your point.
Ps I have severe ADHD
Wow you’re ADHD? Dude, it’s not like literally half the country has that, you’re so brave for speaking out despite the fact literally everyone has ADHD at this point, you alone have prevented thousands of mass shootings
No is saying that ADHD causes violence 🤦♂️
@@pontusbackman1863 Then what is it?
@@13donstalos Not sure if I can explain it to you if you really have to ask...
It's a malfunction.
I’m glad you didn’t mention bullying. From what I have learned about this case, Cruz was not bullied. He terrorized his teachers, his classmates, his mother and brother, and his neighbors. Rather than being bullied it seems he was avoided by classmates with common sense. I wonder how many parents heard their kids complain about him. Or how many approached the principal with their concerns. I can’t imagine that no one did.
All these signs and no one suggested him being institutionalized?
My son went to school with a kid that EVERYONE said would end up killing someone. He physically attacked other children From the age of four, and would smile and laugh when admonished. If he was a group of children sitting on the carpet together, he would jump in the middle, feet first, stamping on the children. My son, now 25, still has a scar on his face inflicted by this kid at aged five.
A few years ago, he was arrested and put away for a double murder.
@@zeldagoblin True, it starts young. I remember seeing home movies of some mass murderer; and when he was in a nursery with a bunch of other babies, one baby woke up and started to cry.
Pretty soon, all the babies were either crying or looking like they were about to cry. . . except him.
He was looking around with evident interest, the same way he looked when his parents dangled a toy for him. Pleasant, happy, excited.
It was creepy AF.
There's a video on you tube where Cruz is in jail pacing back and forth...a detention officer asks him to stop dragging his feet...what does Cruz do?.he attacks the guard viciously...that little guy can fight like a lion...he just about got the better of a much bigger man...don't let that nerd look he's sporting in court fool you...he'd do it again if let out
@@zxyatiywariii8the field of pre-natal trauma has become expert at predicting serial killers just from observing them in utero. They put cameras inside the mother and observe the baby throughout the pregnancy. How the baby reacts to the mother tells your life story. If the baby doesn't attach in utero, it's in for a hellish life.
Starts killing animals. "Nope. No warning signs here." Killing animals is one of the first warning signs.
Especially torturing animals beforr killing them.
Now there are kids who might be playing with an animal and accidentally hurt them, but those kids cry about it and don’t do that again.
@@ID-8491 good point
@@plbeckman Thank you.
@Ahmed M no actually, if you look at convicted serial killers, many of them started with torturing and killing animals before moving on to people. it shows a lack of empathy and disregard for life.
There were SO many red flags and warning signs. WTH?! If a person says they want to kill somebody or a group of people, believe them. He was practically begging to be stopped. 🥴😟
Gallop4Me : So very true.
Let someone else deal with it ! Unfortunately that’s what happened here. With his violent history, does he really need a weapon like an AR-15 ?
In beginner tennis playing double, give that ball to your opponents right at the middle. Each would figure that the other would hit it back. Consequently nobody does. Cruz as a ball was left without being seriously dealt with.
ur just repeating whats the said in the video dofus
@Lee Van Cleef go and study instead of wasting your time disscussing about a word a random person said on a comment section that you didnt like.
"We've got a dangerous sociopath on our hands, but since we can't figure out how to fix him, let's just treat him like he's normal and hope for the best."
*Classic thinking of an enabling system in denial.*
Once it was clear that this boy's issues weren't helped with medicine or psychotherapy, he should have been institutionalized. Especially due to his violent history and threats of shooting up a school.
I really wish they would open and staff more mental health facilities (institutions) in every state. This may have been avoided if that was the case.
Society became overly concerned with preserving the freedom of the mentally ill. Unfortunately, today it translates into sick people being rejected for commitment.
as a teacher who has tried to get help for students with mental illness, i can tell you at times is impossible no one will listen or help these students
Yeah. The problem is people are happy to realise everything wrong with you but then not try to help or get somebody else to help. I spent 4 years in school not doing any work until i was diagnosed with adhd... all my teachers knew i had a problem but none of them actually tried to help. I doubt they cared enough to help because i was the "problem child" . I can imagine it was the same for Nicolas he was seen as violent, problematic and instead of helping they just kept moving him to another school so they could deal with him.
@@xxxchiefx9306 i had one student who was self harming i'm special ed regular ed teacher and i got together with parent who was like yeah whatever then we tried to get psy help we got zero help for this child it still makes me sick to my stomach thinking about this child
These days, it seems like no one gives a shit about anyone but themselves. It is so SAD.
I see the same at my school.
I'm genuinely curious. What is a legal, not to mention, ethical way to deal with someone who is full of warning signs but hasn't committed a heinous crime, like Cruz was at many points before his horrible act? It's seems easy to condemn inaction after the fact, but I'm not even sure what one is allowed to do about it. When it comes down to it, most "systems" may not be able to adequately deal with such a troubled individual. Pondering...
Maybe it sounds odd, but teaching people philosophy and psychology at an early age is very helpful.
I would add meditation to those two, especially if they were behavioral techniques, as well as the Stoics and logic. 💪
I doubt Cruz would have cared regardless. What he really needed was close attention in a padded room. Years of slow rehabilitation into society.
And teaching people how to handle emotions at an early age too.
Good luck getting anybody under the age of 18 to care about philosophy...
Just to know other people wrestle with life's important question is good for young people.
Please do an update video on how you feel about the outcome of the life sentence. Watching all the videos of the family reactions today is heartbreaking. It seems like every family member and every person to comment on any news outlet feels outraged. Should his mental health give him a Life sentence pass?
This needs more likes and Dr. Grande needs to make this video!
I can't believe that little brat didn't get the death penalty, since we have it, let's use it! If gunning down a bunch of unarmed kids in cold blood while they were trying to get an education doesn't qualify one for the death penalty then I truly don't know what does!
It’s ridiculous
They’re acting like he got acquitted, which wasn’t the case at all.
Fact is even if he got the death penalty, there’d be endless appeals and hearings that go on for years. Not to mention it’s a lot more expensive as well
@@RB01.10agreed. And frankly after the crap job that the defense did and the bias that the judge showed in favor of the prosecution... If I were on the jury, I probably would have gone life as well.
I have a family member that was at the school the day of the shooting. The young man standing next to him was shot and killed. My family member was wounded by a bullet fragment. About a year after the incident, we ran into a couple in New Mexico and after some polite conversation we found out they had kids at MSD HS. They discussed not just the horror of the shooting and the widespread PTSD effects of those directly impacted, but also how the entire community had become polarized over the issue and how local law enforcement had handled it. School shootings are nothing new and it's hard to grapple with how all these warning signs were ignored and this horrible event was allowed to happen. I'm a volunteer and work with children in another area of Florida and I can tell you the pathetic patchwork of services available to kids in crisis here is stunning. It either rests with local law enforcement to handle kids with problems or the state contracts out private companies to run children's services. The conditions these people work under and the pay they get is ridiculous and it's amazing they are able to retain any qualified people at all.
My opinion of the tragedy in Parkland is that Scot Peterson is an absolute dunderhead for his utterly incompetent and ineffective response to the shooting itself whereas the Coral Springs Police Department along with the Broward County Sheriff's Department had responded to numerous 9-1-1 calls from the Cruz household and didn't consider him to be a danger to others or himself. In addition the FBI office in Miami, FL had been warned multiple times about Cruz and they- just like the Coral Springs Police Department and the Broward County Sheriff's Department- said "Sorry, but there's nothing we can do."
I had no idea there was so much negative harmful, frightening, lawless, aggressive behavior before the shooting. For crying out loud. Thank you Doctor Grande. You always do fantastic research and give a lot of intelligent commentary as well as have a big heart. Thank you.
Yeah the dude -was- is a complete psycho. Idk how he flew under the radar.
@@Wimmig43at339 The radar was going crazy. This happens a lot. Law enforcement doesn't form plan of action and intervention until the disaster happens. Torturing animals? Shooting a neighbor's hen with a pellet gun? I had read that there were many people warning police and FBI that he was a definitely going to be a school shooter. Dr. Grande confirmed this to be true. Mistakes were made that this wasn't taken seriously enough that plans and monitoring weren't ongoing. Unbelievable. Such a horrid outcome.
Honestly, the most insightful, wise, compassionate doctor and family man in the world. May God continue to bless him and his loved ones throughout their lives. 💞
@@knitter4years It is difficult because for every 100 extremely disturbed ppl, only one might go full mass shooter one day. How do you tell which one?
It seems that FAS would explain other mental disorders he was diagnosed with.
He may as well have been wearing a T-Shirt advertising the fact that he WOULD, at some point, go on a rampage. The fact that this Mother allowed him ANY weapons at all completely blows my mind.
Parents.
and the violent video games like wtf
What did authority know? They should have intervened.
@@frankie5373 he was adopted once and his mother was alive when he had the guns .
@@frankie5373 his biological mother is very much alive. His adoptive mother was the one who passed away.
When I first saw Nikolas Cruz’s photo in the news, my first thought was that he had the appearance of a “FLK”, also known as “Funny Looking Kid” in Pediatrics or as having Fetal Alcohol Syndrome characteristics.
FLK is an observation by health professionals and one always looks at the appearance of the parents.
I feel that he has an odd facial/head/ears appearance.
I wondered about that. I dated a narcissist who would become very violent ans suicidal. He had a look about his eyes that other people with NPD also have. Its theorized early childhood trauma causes the personality disorder, I hadn't considered possible drug and/alcahol use by parents as a contributor but now that makes total sense. Interesting.
@@elephantintheroom5678 Daaaamn.
I really appreciated your analysis on this case. I am from a medical family and have seen similar cases which to my experience involve both genetics and behavioral disorders that are often not sufficiently explored . As a community we all suffer when this happens, and it is tragic. Thank you so much for what you do.
If this guy was classified as a low risk to himself and to others then I am really worried about who might be out there walking around 😥
I suppose thats where the phrase "see something, say something" comes in. A lot of people are worried about getting involved or that they're making a big deal out of nothing but if you're the kinda person who is generally live and let live, and someone is giving you real bad vibes on a consistent basis (saying or doing violent things.. making threats) then I think it's safe to trust your gut and come forward with the information. To whom? Well I guess that depends on the situation.
@@YourWeirdAunt sadly multiple people saw something and said something and he still managed to murder others. And I guess that's where my most hated phrase "mistakes were made and we will learn from them going forward" comes into play. Yet strangely they hardly ever seem to learn
@@mamacito1795 I concur. So convenient when they say"were made", right? Sometimes I think the passive voice should be banned in all languages so that people get to accept their responsibility.
His parents allowing Cruz to have access to any type of weapon at all is extreme negligence IMO. What in the world were they thinking? Parents of emotionally troubled kids MUST have a backbone.
@Name less , except refuse to allow it in their home.
@Name less Agreed. And good point.
@Name less better than the felony of killing 17 people
He was 18 he went to the store and bought it himself.
And with how unstable he was wtf do you think he'd do to THEM if they tried to take them away.
@Name less And if convicted, wouldn’t he be legally barred from possessing a firearm?
This was a seriously bad kid. It is difficult to institutionalised to the degree necessary prior to his mass shooting. What is society to do? Heartbreaking.
This whole family is such a disaster due to alcohol and drug use! The poor sister, very sad story on so many levels. Thanks for your analysis. Way too complicated for pat answers!
"System failure" is Florida's unofficial state motto.
Damn, is Florida really that bad?
Yes! I grew up there.Bailed after 30 yrs. After all, look at Matt Gaetz.....
Yes. Yes it is. Look up Florida Man
@@sarahalbers5555 You forgot to mention your man Gillum, or the corrupt democrat that was rigging elections in South Florida(Brenda Snipes).
😂😭😭is this an escape hatch😭😭
The devil works hard but Dr. Grande works harder.
He is Superdoc 🇬🇧
Nothing to do with a devil, this is a human problem.
Ako tako kaze Gavrilo Princip..
@@NY51663 Exactly, blaming some mythological creature is actually worse than not doing anything at all.
@@nadazulovic4609 well spotted. He caused two world wars with those murders. One gun, 60 million dead.
I am so heart broken for this young man. The system did fail and is failing lots of young people with mental illness.
I mean, if you're heartbroken for him, with what emotion do you quantify the 17 people he slaughtered like animals?
@@Muzikrazy213 outrage at a person who states mentally ill people need intervention? If these people are flagged, diagnosed & guided into psychotherapy at an early these tragedies might be avoided prevented
Don't ever be heartbroken for a psychopath.. IMO all school shooters are psychopaths.. all had the same common denominator.. hurting animals before people that's a big red flag warning... I guarantee a psychopath will NEVER afford you the same empathy... They need to be locked away forever or better yet put down permanently
@@fdddsigns7274 Thank you, well said!
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I just watched JCS's video on this freak's cringe-inducing interrogation where he made several pathetic attempts to appear insane.
JCS 's video has 33 million views now. Creators (or creator) of these films really deserve the success.
that doesn't mean he wasn't actually crazy, insane, or mentally ill. clearly something is wrong with the kid
yeah he’s clearly not right in the head to kill 17 people but he’s differently not insane
6:16 those glasses were not a good look.
@@magik2824 People have always killed each other for all of history. You can be completely right in the head and still a selfish jerk who kills people.
Since the biological mother was taking drugs and drinking when he was born, she may have done that while she was pregnant. That could have caused him to have drug/fetal alcohol syndrome. That damage to his brain could have been partially, or totally, responsible for his mental and behavioral problems. Plus the family issues. Besides the fact nobody knew what to do with him or how to help him later on. It could have been prevented. Interesting analysis, Dr. Grande. I appreciated your empathy and understanding of the facts and circumstances in this case. Great job! 👍 ❤
Just Imagine how neglected and/or abused he probably was since infancy if his mother was high or drunk and a criminal. He was damaged beyond repair, through no fault of his own, but we need to bring back asylums to care for these people.
I saw his picture and the first thing I thought Was FAS
To FAS I would add Reactive Attachment Disorder.
He never should have been sold a gun at that age. Too many guns in the United States. Its becoming insafe living here. No conttol
There is some research that indicates some violent offenders are FAS.
As FAS mature the skelatal anomilies become less apparent.
Thank You, Dr. Grande!!! You said a lot in this analysis, you hinted at some uncomfortable truths and I am grateful to you for doing so.
I do feel empathy for him. Born addicted to crack, sold to his adoptive family. He’s been reaching out for help his entire life yet was just shuttled around. If he was committed just once…this could’ve be prevented
I agree
I was thinking these same things, especially the adopted part. This aspect of his background has rarely been mentioned. As an adoptee myself, and having studied about adoption, I know that adoptees are at higher rates of suicide, mental illness, and abuse in (adoptive) home. I agree that the system failed him just as the system failed my siblings and I.
How in the world do you feel sorry for a sociopath and monster??? He killed animals and pointed a gun at his mother. He needed to be committed a long time ago.
He was committed to 3 psych units, they all ignored
@@Rachel-yo3ei wow! Didnt know this and Im pretty sure general public either. This is just more evidence that this was systematic failure. So many people in authority positions could have helped him get the professional help he needed but they didnt. With the appropriate professional help he needed this tragedy could have been prevented.
Thanks for explaining that ASD doesn't lead to violence. My son has it.
Ppl with ASD are probably even less likely to engage in violence than the general population (I obviously don’t have statistics to back that up, only anecdotal evidence and Experience as a physician, but still, people need to realize violent offenders have common denominators sure, but that common denominator isn’t ASD). 😊
Often it's about the environment they grow up in. Emotional abandonment is a common denominator in my eyes. Just like the roger elliot case coupled with societies oversexualized nature and his comfortable upbringing.
If I was to say anything should be a common denominator for voilence from people with ASD it would be resentment fueled by family instability and the aformentioned lack of emotional support.
I was diagnosed with it at 7, it was no cake walk to understanding it.
Amy it is not definitive. Just because a statistic from research points to a lesser chance of violence stemming from ASD or associated with ASD does not mean it does not not or cannot occur. anecdotally and professionally I have seen many people with ASD have impulse control and aggression issues, especially when coupled with certain malevolent fixations and obsessions it could lead to violent acts. I can name a few high profile murders/stalkings which involve people who are on the spectrum. As the author of the video eloquently points out you have to consider all parts of the equation- a biopsychosocial model as opposed to drawing on specific causative models
I’m 51 and autistic and yet to take up homicide as a hobby.
@@FreshFr33ze not autistic people can be violent too, what's your point? I'm autistic and far from violent thank you very much
Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could happen if you don't use an express vpn like this.
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@@ChiDraconis Wow! That's what I was going to say!
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I like to entertain my fantasy;
Images of Enemy of the State once I did in fact assist a person whom had done computer science teaching at an actual university; Yer basic "bug that evades finding" which results in the classic's "Ruined Weekend" ~ I imaging an AF Cadet all dressed in some uniform selected and designed for the purpose such that person walks in to an office with a leather portfolio chained to the wrist then Geezzer Lowlord 33 penetrates by SE defeating all efforts at Opsec and converting the installation to enemy use
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@@BigZebraCom Times Square shooting suspect caught in Florida after running out of gas → See? If ya gonna do bad shit at least do it right!
Really love the format of your videos
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With genes like his, the kid never had a chance but it certainly didn’t help that he was throwing out red flags by the dozens and they were just ignored by everyone. How sad for him and his victims.
I don't think you actually understand genetics and mental disorders
"with gene like his" 🥴 are you for real? Do you think behavioural disorders are due to genetics? My god we are in fu*cking 2021 lady, sort out yourself.
@@SixSioux You need to go away and read, there is a well documented link between genetics and criminality
@@SixSioux You're right, it's 2021 which means there's absolutely no excuse to not understand the link between genetics and mental health problems.
@@lyrialrs6508 Well fkn obviously. It shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that traits of parents carry over to their offspring.
I love the familiar rhythm of Dr Grande’s video. I can almost always sense him ending a video. The rhythm is very soothing
Agreed!
Exactly! I always lie on my bed and put my phone on my lap and wait for Dr Grande's video at night.His peaceful,soothing voice soothes me to sleep..
You are extremely smart. Probably the most insightful person I've ever seen. One of my favorite of your posts!!!
This was great! I enjoyed learning the facts! Thanks.
I know this isn't going to be a popular comment but can you imagine living your life while being so messed up? I dealt with pmdd and had periods twice a month. Undiagnosed until my thirties and once diagnosed I still couldn't get relief. After I had a hysterectomy and my hormones settled down I remember thinking "is this how other people feel?". No more wild mood swings that would make me feel suicidal or homicidal. No more trying to get a doctor to give me a hysterectomy because of how I was feeling. Pmdd isn't considered grounds for a hysterectomy. So when I hear of someone who has to deal with something like this, I feel for them too. They don't typically enjoy feeling like this. It's also incredibly sad. That along the way no one could help him. It's a tragedy all the way around. I do wonder if some of his issues could be due to fetal alcohol syndrome.
I had the same thought. Knowing something is wrong with you, that people want nothing to do with you, practically begging for help but being ignored. The alienation and isolation most likely compounded his existing issues.
I'd say more so troubling than even the alcohol is the cocaine use; use of cocaine during pregnancy essentially ensures lifelong problems of either physical, emotional or both sorts. Also the propensity for violent and agressive tendencies is VERY high and VERY apparent in children who were subject to fetal cocaine/crack cocaine use. (I'm an OB-GYN, I have seen some cases that were very extreme, one child his parents had no choice but to institutionalize him in elementary school age, for their own and his own safety as well as that of other family members and pets, his behavior was so violent, so unresponsive to treatments and intervention, and it was all due to fetal exposure to crack cocaine-he was adopted also. Not to discourage potential adoptive parents but what they don't know about what the child has been exposed to; even fetally or in the earliest days of life outside the womb, can be myriad, and of HUGE significance to their overall development, and lifelong social and behavioral tendencies
There are few people who can empathize with a murderer. I also understand his upbringing did lead to these decisions. He was doing all he can to get help and no one stepped up. It’s not always pretty to help people. But everyone deserves help. Even if they suck.
Yeah that's why he tortured small defenseless animals 😑😒🙄💀
@@annastarr2043 I don't understand your point? You are taking issue with my ability to feel empathy for someone who has severe mental health issues not because he killed kids, but because he killed animals? Also empathy isn't a free pass.
Let’s stop naming our kids Scott Peterson
This lol
Yeah, what is with that name and being a bad person? Very odd
Ikr, where are the overzealous, violent police when you need them ?
Where is his video he mentions him separately? I can't find it
@@AlyssaCookePhoto Dr. Grande-Is cowardice a crime ? Former Deputy Scott Peterson-Parkland shooting.
Coward of Broward ?
Trigger Warning: This useless former cop is almost as pathetic as the shooter, Cruz.
Really wonderful analysis, Dr. Grande-this was concise and articulated well. I agree so much with this, not only in cases of more extreme behaviors like Nikolas', but also for a lot of people-that a more collaborative effort of professionals and practitioners have to come together to give people the best treatment outcomes possible. It is really cool to see professionals like you saying this and hopefully things are moving in this direction.
It's crazy to think just how much sadistic joy he must have felt on that day. Very few of us have ever felt anything like the feelings of pure evil and pure elation that were going through his head. The juror who let him live must be just as sadistic as him.
Wake up to reality.
Even if he had a floating Neon Sign above his head stating "I Am Dangerous and Will Kill Eventually" before the massacre i think nothing would have happened because in our society nothing will happen unless people die first. And then later on the question of why is asked and the true answer is ignored because our society doesn't like hearing truth and because we are lied constantly as a matter of course especially when people die in lone wolf massacres.
Just being curious, I'm amazed nobody brings up gun laws here, I'm french, and to me it seems crazy thzt this kid, or any civilian for that matter, can buy a ar-15 just like we buy baguette. It would have helped in the matter if he did not have access to weapons no?
@@matydrum Do you need a background check for baguettes? There are laws in place to prevent violently insane people and criminals from legally acquiring firearms. The reason no one is talking gun control on this one is because it’s not a political channel and there actually is a system in place that should have prevented this tragedy. The whole point of the video was that clearly even the laws we have are useless if this many reports to the fbi can go unnoticed. Like Adam Lanza (the sandy hook shooter) this mentally disturbed person was clearly enabled by their parents.
@@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120 lmao yet he had many guns. Looks like your background checks are working
He literally did by the sounds of it. Sadly he should have been removed from society a long time ago. But we never learn.
Especially sports fans there so brainwashed and like other people too think for them
Hello this is Dr.usurper. Today I'll be analyzing the case of Dr.Grande and the disappearance of his plants.
I see a couple of plants.
Nicholas Cruz smoked them all
@@doneestoner9945 hey this is Dr.Ursurper. today we'll be analyzing the disappearance of Donee Stoner.
@@macmedic892 jesus.
It probably needed more sunlight. 😋
That’s why I just love listening to you on different Murder cases , you always have more knolage about things in and about the crimes ,things that were not put out there , thanks again Dr. For a great informative video ! When you want a the TRUETHs that’s why I come to hear you !
Epic analysis Sir.
👍🏻 at 14:45 mark to the end.
I am a therapist in Florida. I worked in community mental health for nearly 20 years. This is where folks who are on medicaid or who are indigent have to go for mental health care. It is heartbreaking; there is very little actual treatment, mostly just crisis stabilization and then back on the street in 72 hrs. It is just kicking the can further down the road. For many years Florida has ranked 48th or 49th out of all 50 states for the amount that is spent on mental health care by the Florida legislature.
Lack of funding for mental health care is a serious problem
I don't know about costs in FL, but in my state, the rate for residential (non-secured) treatment is 350-600 per day. That does not include medical expenses. The rate the mental health institution charges counties placing people there on holds is nearly 1500 per day.
I think most states these days are in a tie for 48th or 49th least mental health spending (OK, admit my statistics may be suspicious🤔). I think this is one reason we have so much attention on use of force and law enforcement. There are many non treated people treating tneir own mental health issues with illicit drugs, which doesn't tend to improve their adjustment. There are no long term beds, so these folks are out in the community creating problems and spiraling downward. CA used to have many state mental health beds, but not since the early 80s. Whether this happened due to various legal challenges and patients' rights or a reformulation of the tax laws and lack of funding (or both), it has had serious consequences.
Lived in FL for 5 months. That was enough to leave a psychological impact to say the least.
Honestly, even "better" states are like this unfortunately. I live and work in MA as a health care professional (not sure what list you used but I'm seeing MA in top 5 states at the lists I've looked at). It's all about insurance reimbursement! Plus not enough services, very fragmented health care system, etc. Very sad!
@@Helicopterpilot16 I was born in FL and am now 32. I have been suicidal to the point where I didn't think I'd survive past 20 years old. Just got baker acted a few weeks ago. I don't see a future here when I think of my future. I'd pay any amt of money to move out even if it means I have to take an 100k loan with 50% interest. Moving out of fl has been my life long dream and its gonna happen one way or another. (aka I do it or death)(out of curiosity my bill from the hospital was 3k. I'm never going to seek mental health help in FL again and its going to be a LONG time before I trust mental health industry in general. For sure I'm on my own for at least a year just bc of my finances alone)
I see dr grande I click regardless of how sad the case is
I would say "same", but I just can't make myself, to watch the video, with disabled lady assaulted by the police :(
Not sure of any happy case ever🧐
@@sylverrain4620 Elf on a Shelf video is one.
Same
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I know a teacher that was having to deal with a problem child in her classroom. When the shit finally hit the fan and she had enough, the TEACHER was fired for loosing her temper at the child. With that kind of attitude towards faculty it’s no wonder many are afraid to confront problem children and the parents that enable them.
Sounds like The teacher needed to take action before losing their temper. We all have to own our reactions to situations In an unfair world.
@@mulliganstew72 I would say you are right on that one.
The teacher likely did take action. The problem with the school system is that any action taken can take days, or even months for an effective response to take place. A problem child that is sent to administration will be returned to the classroom in 5 min and continue the problem behavior that disrupts learning for everyone. Please don't blame the teacher.
I think the teacher did take action, and got fired for it. Your attitude and disrespect for authority figures is a huge part of the problem. Manipulative, disruptive, destructive and violent young males have no business being in a classroom with other children. I would be willing to bet the teacher lost her patience and did something to get the kid removed from her classroom.
We need to put people out and give criminals less chances.
Mom: my son has serious anger issues and violet tendencies. To solve this problem I shall give him access to killing machines....
I'm sorry but what an idiot
bc he’d probably act out on her? he could hurt her or make everything worse if she denied him weapons? lmao can u not imagine how that must’ve been for her. she was scared confused by his behavior and wanted to help and ofc u could figure he likes collecting knives maybe taking away the things he likes isn’t gonna do any better or might turn his anger towards her. don’t put the blame on her instead put it on the police station for not immediately confiscating his weapons after that first call was made.
Lanza family lmao
@@okidgaf7643 If we weren't talking about fucking guns and knives then maybe I'd give this argument a bit of thought. Regardless of whether or not its true she's a bit of a ditz for it.
"Killing machines"? Grow up.
I am confused was he not a adult? If he a teen he looks old asf
Excellent analysis!
Excellent analysis as always!
Unfortunately, just like with the Columbine tragedy, so many warning signs were not taken seriously and were not acted upon by the parents, police, teachers. To stop school shootings, the red flags must be taken seriously and they must never be ignored.
As always huh?
The more I hear about this case the more positive I am about the fact that shooting was completely preventable. So infuriating. I'm so sad for the families and friends of the people killed. I wonder how they feel about all of this being ignored?
Everyone thought he was just a try hard, wanna be edgy kid. Woops. LOL.
"Yonder stands your orphan with a gun, crying like a fire in the sun." --Bob Dylan, from the song, "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" on the 1965 album, "Bringing It All Back Home"
Few musicians had a better way with words than Bob Dylan.
"orphans with guns".... Perfect description of this situation in America
@@smackedinthejaw id love to know of any musicians that had a better way with words! Even the greats like Leonard Cohen I think are only on the same level as Dylan, none better than him...
Love the way he went into his sponsor. Grande is one of a kind in every aspect! So original
I've been keeping track of the current trial or hearing and your analysis helps me understand the situation more
How does a system ignore so many warning signs? This should have never happened. Nice analysis, Doc.
One word: Florida
He had a second amendment right to be armed to the teeth. That's the absurdity of the second amendment. That's why the police could not do anything to take away his firearms.
@@TheWrestlingful Florida is a proper noun. A noun is a word.
@@josefarrington exactly
@@josefarrington even if he is mentally challenged and he says he will shoot up a school?
Pink is your colour dr grande 👊
It’s salmon
Lol
I think he looks great in purple 💜
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I really hope he has all his shirts arranged in rainbow order in his wardrobe
Real men wear pink. It's the color of passion.
Man you are so professional,I really like your videos
Excellent analysis.
Only in Florida would these warning signs still be murky or unclear.
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Not so....it's becoming part of our culture; happening in state after state, that is scary!
To be fair he probably didn't stand out too much compared to your average Floridian
Bull shit, they’d be ignored all over this country. Nobody actually cares about mass shootings anyway
You are very naive.
Not hard to believe that another ball was dropped. The authorities never cease to amaze me how often they just screw the whole thing up. And now all these people are dead and many wounded. Very disturbing situation.
Remember that the layers and layers of administration and counselors and teachers and experts all want to be in control and tell you the best way to manage children and their development while simultaneously failing to produce basic fundamental results when it actually matters. No one is in control and they don’t seem bothered by it.
Solid analysis Doc.
really enjoy your videos.
You mentioned his dad was addicted to crack cocaine and alcohol, and his mom was arrested 17 times. You can just say "his parents are from Florida", the rest is implied.
Savage! 😂
Ouch lol
Mom was arrested 28 times, I think. His step-sister was arrested 17 times. 😳🙄
Get your story straight
not fair...
This NEVER should have happened. All the signs were there. Just look at his birth mother.
Are you implying that mass shooters is hereditary?
@@carpediem2445 propensity for violence is increased with the population with those diagnoses
@@carpediem2445 Looks like it!
@@carpediem2445 If being a vodka/crack baby with attachment issues is considered hereditary, then yeah it is a recipe for disaster.
@@carpediem2445 lol yup!
It’s heartbreaking to hear that the students knew who it was while it was happening. What’s even more sad is the fact that Freshman didn’t know Cruz so we’re not aware of what he’d do as much as the other students who knew Cruz would.
Watched David Hogs video where he’s hiding during the shooting and he straight up says it’s Cruz before it was even confirmed.
Shits crazy and insanely sad. I have yet to have a kid sadly but my siblings have all been blessed with little life’s and it kills me that when they go to Kinder-garden it’s essentially the same as going to war now and it gives me extreme anxiety.
In my home town we almost had a school shooter as someone planned it out and we knew it was going to happen so the school locked down in prep except it didn’t happen. Later on we found out it didn’t happen cus he ended up blowing his own brains out in his room before he made it to the school. Parents found him later that day.
Heartbreaking
Do you need a tissue? SNiffle sniffle.
Regarding ADHD and criminality: the linking factor likely lies in the prefrontal cortex. This region is important for evaluating consequences of actions and applying focused attention (i.e., during work for an employer) and it’s a notable site of changes associated with ADHD. Easy to see how compromise to these functions may contribute to criminality.
It's amazing and kind of sad how many times the local police, FBI, etc. all have advanced signs, warning, and reports from neighbors and family and yet nothing is ever done and more often than not it leads to tragedy.
Cops and any type of police agency are useless I was stabbed with witness coming forward and police didn’t do jack shit when it was reported silly of people to rely on cops these days
It seems as though mental health disorders are unimportant in this world. People are more concerned with how they look, what they wear, and what they drive. And I definitely feel that many family members ignore important signs.
I don’t think it’s that people don’t care, but rather that people fear repercussions. There is still a lot of stigma around mental health. For example: if you’ve ever been prescribed antidepressants, you can’t be an air traffic controller. Another example: if you’ve ever struggled with anxiety or depression, you can’t adopt a child from certain adoption agencies, states, or countries. People also overlook smaller behavioral issues because they worry that an arrest record could harm the individual’s future employment opportunities.
I beg to differ. I see mental health issues being acknowledged more so in todays time versus the past. People were told to "man up" or called "retarded" or just dismissed as "crazy" and avoided or shunned.
People talk about mental health issues constantly. Their is no shortage of resources, especially in schools. The problem is that actual progress in mental illness requires effort on the patient end their guardian’s part. How much effort do you think his parent put in? Zero. I’m guessing
you can't blame this guys behavior on a personality disorder or mental illness. You clearly have no clue how little psychopaths, sociopaths narcissists, or people with DiD, or BPD are violent. It's Mott very common at all. Nor with mental illnesses. Hundreds and hundreds of millions have mental illness or personality disorders and are not violent and don't turn violent.
@@sayhello5377 you can't blame this guys behavior on a personality disorder or mental illness. You clearly have no clue how little psychopaths, sociopaths narcissists, or people with DiD, or BPD are violent. It's Mott very common at all. Nor with mental illnesses. Hundreds and hundreds of millions have mental illness or personality disorders and are not violent and don't turn violent.
Thank you for you channel interesting stuff !
I don't think there's a country where there is enough resources put in place for mental health, it's still a stigma in many places and will be for a long time...
hope someday this changes ,there are millions out there who need help.
I agree, and I can say that recently I have been applying for jobs, and unlike 5 years ago, MANY employers mention having an EAP program or some kind of mental health assistance. It's so rampant. I use the program as well.
I only met him once, at his job. He seemed so normal...was unimaginably eerie to see him on the news a few months later
Maybe his ability to seem normal at times was the reason he stayed under the Radar.
Some people have clever egos.
@@erikparent8176 Yeah, he was very composed that day
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I used to shop at his job too. Nothing wrong with him when I was there either. tbh that's how things are in that area. The Coral Springs/Parkland area always had that vibe to it: Picture perfect on the surface but has the nastiest underbelly to the environment. I went to JP Taravella High, the "rival" of MS Douglas high and looking back, I wish I would have dropped out.
@@SirJoelsuf1 I went to Coral Glades. I’m still in the area. I heard one time, soon before the shooting, Nick aggressively threw a customer’s bag on the counter, and this person scolded him something along the lines of “Aren’t you going to hand the bag to me properly?” And he just shrugged and said “nope”. But that’s all anecdotal
Good lord, this kid was screaming for help for most of his life. That so many people heard it but did nothing about it isn't just a failure of the system, it's a failure of our society. We live in a reactive society instead of a preventative one. No one wants to do anything until it's too late. "Someone else will deal with it" may as well replace "e pluribus unum" as the national motto. We're being held together with bandaids and duct tape.
He was reported to the FBI, like the Boston Bombers.The Uvalde shooter said FOUR years ago he was gonna do this..too, and now it's coming out the FBI knew about Buffalo as well...
You are right on Angie Pants.
So right
We have institutions full of kids who just can’t be helped but at least they’re locked up. Right now we don’t have enough beds for kids to even be treated as inpatients let alone be institutionalized. There are very few people in this country who are aware of the fact that we have a lot very dangerous kids that no one seems to be able to help. And it’s not all caused by poor parenting.
@@cathykrueger4899 True, and scary.
I’m so glad you’re speaking up ..!!! We can’t keep ignoring Mental Health, mental development is part of physical development. I WISH all doctors who know better will help us all !
I've seen similar clusters of problems (learning difficulties, attention deficit, impulsivity, aggression/hostility plus various antisocial behaviors, low empathy and emotional lability or depression/anhedonia) in clients a number of times, although never with such dramatic and tragic consequences. This is not the sort of problem you can solve with medication.
Looks like we need more vaccines. Huh? NO now that wouldn't be the reason. Fluoridated water...No that's not the problem. Chemicals in foods...Nope not that.
I'm the foster parent of a kid with ADHD who's doing great. I would like to suggest trauma had a role to play in behavioral issues too. Regarding communication... It's pathetic. School and therapist are not communicating. The therapist had to fax a form to school district coordinator to get an IEP.
EXCELLENT ANALYSIS!!!
Shame on the law for not looking into this the mom and dad should also be held accountable
I love how he looks at and speaks about every case rationally and is always unbiased. He breaks the stereotypes we have about many mental health issues and that's very important, especially now that there is a lot of false and distorted information scattered around the internet. Thank you for that.
As for the hearing voices bit, he actually didn’t make that claim until after the shooting and his arrest. He was caught telling many inconsistencies regarding it and while it’s a part of his defense, it’s generally believed that he made it up as a way to be unfit for trial.
I'd really like you to revisit this case, since we're now partway through the trial.
My questions are: 1. Does he have antisocial personality disorder? 2. Does fetal alcohol spectrum disorder really affect how someone is treated, from a psychiatric point-of-view? 3. If not, what's the point in proving whether he has FASD or not? 4. I know that narcissism is not a condition, but narcissistic personality disorder is. What are the differences, and does he exhibit any of the traits?
Last question, and it's a rhetorical one: How could the system--every single aspect of it--have failed him so completely?
All GREAT questions!! I also have one but I fear noone can ever answer it: what could have been done differently to prevent this?
@@StellaFl Yes. i"d love to know this as well. So much is fundamentally wrong in this country. We've got to fix things or they'll only get worse :(
He showed signs of anti social personality disorder, like stealing, breaking into things and hurting animals.
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This case is so tragic and it seems it could have been prevented if escalated concerns were taken more seriously. Thank you for educating us Dr Grande!💙💙
The whole "demon" thing was a complete lie and he was trying to get off on an insanity plea. If you watch the interrogation, this becomes very clear, so I think we can rule out the psychosis.
Or he was trying to look edgy.
@@krillin1195 doubt it. He was clearly trying his best to appear crazy. He wanted to shift the blame onto a mental illness that he didn't have. Watch the interrogation. You can see him slowly start to lose the facade.
Yea that video was cringy AF. The way he pretended to look around the room as though he was seeing something. Demons my ass. He had an psych evaluation when he was first arrested. The docs cleared him and say nothing was wrong with him. This is just a disgruntled white boy. Kids lose their parents all the time and go through much worse, but you don’t see them commuting mass murder. I hope they lock him up and put him in a cell with someone triple his size.
@@tattianaconquest7414 You just had to bring race into it, didnt you? He is actually Hispanic, not white.
Keep your anti white bigotry to yourself.
@@krillin1195 lol!!! Someone is having a bad day. You should really try and calm down before you pop a blood vessel. Focus on the bigger picture Karen.
Thank you for posting this Dr. Grande. I appreciate your thorough analysis and energy. I must say that we are failing our children as a whole society. Pointing the fingers at particular organizations, providers, etc., will not change what is happening in this country. I've worked in Mental and Behavioral Health for quite some time and I see this disturbing pattern of inadequate care. However, our communities MUST find a way to work together to change this. Like for saying, "It takes a community to raise a child." Until we wake up and work together, things will continue to get worse and our society and children will continue to stay ill.
Thank you again.
You really put a finger on how the systems designed to help a kid like this often aren't in coordination w one another. Or simply don't have solutions. I hope this helps people to connect the dots. Gaps in our safety net system lead to kids like this falling through cracks. The only thing good that might come of this tragedy, is a closer look at how our system can better serve these kids and their families.
But you've left out Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Reactive Attachment Disorder as factors, critical factors.
So many saw what was going on.. my grands always says... everybody is waiting for Somebody to do something and nothing gets done. I’ve seen many parents indulge their kids thinking it makes their job(as a parent, their responsibility) easier on them. I have not seen a positive result in my 20 years of teaching preschool 😔
I would really like Dr Grande to break down philosophical theories as well.
anyone agrees?
A bit off topic but Dr. Grande's voice is so soothing I didn't even mind the ad. You should do audio books!
Thx 4 sharing
Wow.. what did he have to do to make them listen? 👀👀👀
This is incredibly worrisome. Circumstances like this make me never want to send my future children to school.
I think people did listen to him, hence the repeated transfers of schools and restrictions on how he could attend school. The biggest failure was his step mother for allowing him to posses an arsenal. All the warning signs she ignored, so sad.
You know what's funny? People who are often struggling do actually seek out help. They might even show warning signs, that they're a threat to themselves or others. They may even go to therapy. Yet the people responsible for giving them the support they need just don't care.
And then when the person with issues finally ends up commiting murder or suicide, everyone around them is like "omg how did this happen?!?!"
The mental health system is a joke. The most they'll do is give their clients sedatives because they don't want to deal with them. They couldn't care less about Nikolas Cruz, and the problems he was having that made him eventually snap. People just don't seem to care until it's too late.
Acting a fool is supposed to be him asking for help? Geez. How could anyone overlook that.
I totally get it. As long as your kids still have a well-rounded education and are socialized (most are not which is why I think so many people are against homeschooling) I think it’s a good idea.
@@benweiser22 adopted mother
This case is so incredibly frustrating. All the warning signs were there... While I understand that we can't just arrest or commit people who MIGHT do something to harm themselves or others, when there are this many causes for concern, and those concerns are expressed repeatedly by family, school officials, and health professionals, involuntary committal should be mandatory. Especially in cases where these people make specific threats. This would actually be a good way to weed out those who are serious and those who aren't. If these people knew they could be committed for shooting their mouths off they'd probably stop making empty threats. If they knew they could be committed and still couldn't help themselves from making threats, then it would be clear that they had no self control, and they would definitely need to be evaluated
This point is that ignorance about mental health issues is widespread.
Many have dysfunctions to such a degree that being able to spot those in others, is very difficult for the general population.
Dr. Grande is is much more aware of certain dysfunctions and therefore can assess others with a certain accuracy most don't posses.
It's not logical to blame everyone for this situation.
We do the best we can.
It's just life as it is.
It's more important to develope a good heart and rid oneself of judgmental thoughts.
we actually can detain people who are a threat, we can't press charges because of that, but detaining them with the intention of protecting others is legal. Not sure if he could be treated or how but yeah
Yeah after so many calls and concerns about this kid. Police should have been watching him 24/7. And if he leaves the house with something that resembles a rifle or a bad big enough to hold a rifle follow him and pull him over if he gets anywhere close to a school. I mean you can almost tell he was going to do this. A lot of people around him knew it and they called on him multiple times. It just goes to show you that our government cannot protect us correctly
Great analysis of the parkland shooter Dr Grande 👍🏻
This is the system saying they care more about your right to exhibit dangerous and threatening behavior while owning firearms than they care about your right to not be murdered.
Just bought the audible version of your book Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers. I hope the narrator has a similar calming voice as Dr Grande's.
The narrator is very good I love his book
Ahh it would have been nice if he read it himself. It adds a special touch. I really enjoyed Audiobooks by British comedians Joe lycett and Michael mcintyre which they read themselves
@@NyanyiC I know right, I was so hoping the audiobook was read by him as well
Woooooo let's gooooo! Always looking forward to Dr. Grande dropping another vid!!!
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