Hey there! I’m a 60-something married dad who just discovered your videos, and I think you two are absolutely amazing! I’m so incredibly impressed by your courage and openness. What fabulous role models you are for young people who need this kind of support. My most sincere best wishes to you both, and thanks for sharing your life together with the world. Love and hugs!
When I hear "there are too many kids who need homes" it doesn't make me think more people should adopt it makes me think more people should have free access to birth control and sex education so they can choose to have children if/when they are ready.
Agreed, adoption is a major crisis. But don’t forget about children taken away due to abusive parents. I think there needs to be more education all around in schools and more help for parents struggling :) x
@@ripstarboy though if it would be really cheap, imagine what kind of people would take children and would could they put them through. It's sad that the adoption isn't cheap and easy process, but it is the way it is for a child to have a better life than they were born into...
I wanted to like this, but it stands at 333. Not going to kill that. ETA: It now stands at 402. Will the comment be lost when two more readers like it?
Every time I watch a video with both Jamie and Shaaba, no matter how interesting the content is, I spend half the time thinking 'God, these two are so in love.'
"So, yes, how do we have kids? We both want kids." "Well, how can we have kids?" "Ten kids." "If you want ten kids, you're on your own." one of my favourite parts in this video 😂
I didn't realize how much this would apply to me as a bisexual woman, and I'm on the brink of tears. I never knew that I might be able to have biological kids with my future partner if they were a woman, and it's honestly such a relief that that might be an option
I’m a biomedical engineer and the way that you two were explaining the complexities of fertility therapies/ genetic engineering were absolutely fantastic! Entertaining, easy to understand and spot on!
@@nonsensetalk8953 no. All children need is a loving home and parents that nurture them and care for them, to be the best they can be, to be there when that child needs support and love. How do I know this to be so??......my father was adopted from the age of 2 into a family that gave him all he needed to become the adult and loving father he now is to me and my other siblings. That's all children need, loving parents and a stable home.
Nonsense Talk Jesus calm down. It doesn’t matter if a parent is trans as long as they love you. Same as having parents who are both male or female, or would that be very confusing and bad for the children too?
@@emptyhead2777 Eh. Murders someone by accident? Kills someone by accident would be Involuntary manslaughter. "A killing that stems from a lack of intention to cause death but involving an intentional or negligent act leading to death." Murder is with malice aforethought and intentional. And ironic is a weird word in this. Tragic would be the word I would use.
@@briaisabanana7031 I think they meant that it would be "ironic" if their cute and polite child became a murderer. I just nitpicked on Ninjacoolhead Alerts use of the phrase "murders someone by accident" which isn't achievable.
Shaaba: "I have POS, which means my fertility is also questionable" Jamie: "Yes. And I have silicone balls, that's why my fertility is questionable" I had to pause to breathe after that. 😂
To know my future wife and I can have a child that's biologically ours made me cry. I don't know if I want kids but the option being there is so heart warming. Thank you for this.
I have 3 half-brothers because my father was sperm donor for a lesbian couple who are friends of my mom and dad. It's really cool because they are around the same age as me and my brother and we go to each others birthdays etc. ❤️❤️
That's actually genuinely so heart warming to hear how your siblings are included in each others lives. Your dad is a very lovely person to help your family friends have children like that.
At least he knew what he was getting into I've seen a trend these days with some lesbians that trick the men to have babys with them and take em has anyone else seen this cause I have seen this 3xs already
I’m asexual, and while I just discovered it recently, I’ve always known I didn’t want to have children biologically, it just makes me a little uncomfortable thinking about it, but I do plan on maybe adopting in the future, although I’d definitely want an older kid, cuz I’m not very good with younger ones, and I think it would be a good thing to do, although I may change my mind in the future, it’s not like it’s gonna happen soon
Pemanil Noob no I meant like spiritually/mentally because you know how dads have those awful jokes like when you say “dad I’m hungry” and the dad responds “hi hungry, I’m dad”. It’s that low level of humor we call “dad jokes”. Jamie called Shabaa “awww” which have me dad joke vibes so that’s why I was like “he’s already a dad”. Get it?
I'm the youngest of two, but am raising a large family (very close to yours). I get mixed reviews from my own kids, so how did/do you like being the oldest of ten?
Well to be fair if males were taught that info then they would understand too, the problem is that the subject is often off limits or something when teaching boys about puberty then they grow up ignorant and females complain about them not understanding. Education is the answer to this problem
@@ciannacoleman5125 I mean not exactly. I haven’t met any males who find it gross or are completely 100% uneducated on it. It’s just level of maturity. Like how old the male is. By the time most guys are 14 they understand it a lot more lol
@@naomiivii4309 Unfortunately I have met quite a few teens over the age of 14 who are still very uncomfortable with it. I would say over all that as adults almost all of them figure out its not something to be grossed out by. But you're not wrong. 14 seems about the age that it would become more normal to them
I am so happy for you's. My husband's late wife was transgender. She was a beautiful kind woman. Always grateful as she had a huge part in showing my husband how to be a good husband. God Bless you both
I’m a young trans man who in the future sees having biological kids as an option, thank you for opening my eyes to more opens that that don’t require invasive procedures and more female hormones and injections and compromisation or delay going on testosterone, wishing you and shaaba the best in all your future kiddy endeavours
I’m so glad you mentioned a “three-person baby”! I suffer from a rare physical disorder that has 50% of being passed on to my children. I had no idea this was even possible. Definitely looking more into it!
I was an IVF baby, my parents had one of the most successful rounds of IVF in history. They had one stillborn baby(RIP Josiah), one round of twins, and me. I was a very strong egg. I'm not sure how many rounds they had though
I also want to adopt an older child (when I'm older, of course). Everyone is so quick to flock to babies but I wanna give an older kid a chance at a loving family.
You should DEFINENTLY adopt older kids!! Older kids are usually thrown to the side all the time in my country because everyone wants babies and toddlers, Specially kids that are already somewhat going through puberty.
Yess. A lot of teens and preteens kind of get pushed to the side because they aren't cute and sweet any more. But that doesn't mean they don't deserve a chance at a loving family.
Yes. Alot of the time people never get them because they want a baby or toddler. And most of the time they're adopted they're abused which is absolutely horrible! Thank you for wanting to adopt older kids!
There are another option called embryo donation or embryo adoption, where you can adopt embryos from another couple who has went through IVF and has embryos left. This would of course be a form of adoption and the baby wouldn’t be biologically yours, but it would allow Shaaba to be pregnant with your adoptive child
I have friends who did this because they were both infertile, and now they have 3 children. It's always amusing when someone comments about how much the babies look like them, because...well... LoL
My husband and I did IVF because of fertility issues, but we got more embryos than we were told it was possible/most likely. We were initially planning to take them all through time, but when we found out how many they actually were, we got scared and doubtful. I really hope they are going to make embryo donation legal in our country (Italy) because we want all of them to have a chance at life. I don't want to die knowing that one or two are still frozen there. A friend of mine did IVF too, and she said she wouldn't donate any embryos left, mostly because she would be too scared that that person and her "own" children could meet and have a romantic relationship. I would donate in a blink, without a second thought, to anyone from a relative to an anonymous couple of any gender on the other side of the world.
@@carr0760 I'm not surprised someone sees a resemblance where there is 0% biological relation. Looking like someone is a lot about attitude, demeanor, walking, facial expressions, style and so on... things we early learn rather than being born with. one more proof, if we needed any, that a child's "real" parent is the person who loves them, raises them and cares for them.
Hey guys, Im a french phD biology student ! I just want to mention you that your last option is fully achievable but you only can have girls because any of you have Y chromosome in his DNA and science can’t create one ! But if I understand correctly girls is what you would have so its perfect for you ! Send you french scientific love !! ❤️
Single mom by choice here....I wanted a girl and did PGD genetic testing with gender selection, and had 2 girls and 2 boys (embryos). I put in 2 girls, got a chemical pregnancy. Froze the 2 boys for later. Next cycle, put in all 3 embryos without testing and ended up pregnant with 1 boy. I'm due next week. So, sometimes you want a specific gender, and unless you pay $$$$$ to keep sorting the embryos according to gender with IVF, you won't get what you want. There's no guarantee that when you put in girl embryos that they will implant and result in the live birth of a biological girl.
Just wanted to tell you - I study for a BA in psychology, and one of my electives in a class about psychology of gender. The professor is super cool and she always inserts all kinds of pictures and videos in the lesson. Anyway - we were talking about trans people, and the video she chose to show was your 3 years on T video! I was too excited for my own good...
TERF isn’t a sexist slur, you absolute ignoramus. How someone has it in their hearts to be so transphobic is beyond me, we must support our sisters, not just our cis-ters
I think that there are a few predatory people out there who use the transgender movement to advance their own agendas (e.g. Jonathan/"Jessica Yaniv) , but the majority of transgender people just want to live their lives quietly as their perceived gender and most people would not even know better. We should not paint the whole transgender population with the brush of some loud, attention seeking individuals.
@@standup2982 ok...you must be very uneducated. "Pushing an agenda"? In college? For studying gender?! That's LITERALLY what they signed up to learn about. Its not an agenda, its education. That's like saying going to school for French is pushing a French agenda. But you wouldn't say that, because that is stupid. Just accept your anti-trans movement is dumb and pointless, TERF.
I am a conservative Christian person that doesn’t usually get very opened minded about things like your circumstances but wow I am in love with you both. You are both doing amazing things. Thank you for sharing.
I love you two. I love this channel. That being said, as an adopted person who is very familiar with the issues in adoption and sperm donation, please consider a donor who the child can find when they are an adult. Just having the option to search and find family/genetics/whatever later in life can mean everything to young people. It's just part of our identities and children do grow up and often really want to know everything. Good luck on your journey.
This is why I only considered ID Release sperm donors when picking the sperm I've been using to try to conceive. I don't know if my kid will care. But if they don't, it won't have mattered, and if they do, it'll be better for them to have a donor who has agreed to be open to meeting.
Ooh it gets right on my last nerve when people state that people with fertility issues should "just adopt because there's children who need a home". You're so right Shabba, adoption is very much a personal choice, it's not for everyone, and its damm hard to even be approved let alone actually adopt and bring up an adopted family.......and it's not the responsibility of those with fertility issues to adopt!!! Its a ridiculous concept. How many cis couples wanting children get told to adopt rather than having bio children, or only expand their family with adopted children?! As if fertility issues aren't hard enough to deal and live with, then comes along others judgement and shame to really smack you up round the head! Have your family however the heck you can guys. So long as it's safe for you both and baby long term, then do it. Trust me when I tell you, life is too damm short. Love to all x
I hear you. The only people i regularly say that to are those who are anti-choice on the basis that the babies will be adopted. That just pisses me off.
I suppose the question I have with the '3 person baby' is how do you balance a personal right/need with a process that is akin genetic engineering and DNA manipulation. For me, I would be very nervous about having a child this way just so I would feel a hypothetical biological connection. That said, I wish them all the best, they seem like a loving couple who should be able to be parents.
@@jamesdavison8177 totally understand your concern here. The same concerns were, and to a certain degree still are there regarding donor egg/donor sperm/donor embryo and egg sharing etc. This is obviously an extremely contentious and important topic, which I'm sure over time will evolve. It will take an awfully long time to be considered before used, especially in the UK where genetic modification is very regulated (for instance eye colour is one of the many genetic characteristics that can be chosen, but the UK don't allow it in fertility treatments, and genetic testing and its implementation is only currently for chronic health issues of the child that may be passed down from the biological parent/donor). If this will ever come to pass in our lifetime is yet to be seen, but I'm forever hopeful for the continual discoveries and improvements in fertility treatments, and pregnancy conditions, because so much of our creation and growth is still very much unknown.
Thank you for what you said about its okay to want biological kids. I'm infertile and have heard "oh, just adopt" but adopting has never been something for me. And I already have step children. People dont ask people who are pregnant why they didnt adopt instead of getting pregnant so why should that be suggested for anyone who has struggles to concieve.
Because they can have children and you can't!! Simple as that! I did have two of my own children and then wanted to adopt! But then came the unforeseen circumstances, like my husband cheating on me. But I would have been more then glad to adopt a hundred children if I could. So get the chip off your shoulder, ugh.
@@ellenrichardson8701 No chips here. But, why should those who are infertile be the ones to adopt children? The logic literally makes no sense. It's not really fair to the adoptive children either, they should be the FIRST choice. Maybe try understanding from an empathetic perspective and you'd understand, if you're capable of doing that.
@@angieeemmmarie Whatever floats your boat honey! Coming across in a manner of speaking, that any adoptee would not be good enough for you, because that is your simple mindset. So no, you should not be the person to adopt if you feel that you can't love them as freely as you would your own child. Sad....
@@ellenrichardson8701 I think it's more to do with the biological instinct to spread your genes that some people have that is hard to get over not because they dont want to adopt. However yes you're right adoption should be thought about more by some people too because its not all about biological instincts. However some people bio instincts are very strong so... adoption is not a second choice and is not worse def not, it's just that some people have different instincts some want to adopt a lot more than others instinctually.
I learned about stem cell research in biology and my first thoughts were (oh my god can same sex couples have kids now) and I didn’t ask since I’m at a catholic high school and I’m in no way out and that’d be awkward, but I’m so happy IVG can be a thing so soon too because the world is progressive and this sounds wonderful.
@@yasharahmed7601 no one's sure, I've seen anywhere between 5 years and 20. Obviously if its on the latter end of that estimate it won't be an option at all for most people currently or shortly looking to have kids.
@@Potatopot724 The answer is it can be possible in humans in bout 5 years, but it'll take 20 plus years of ethical debate to figure out how to safely use it without having designer babies.
I want to do the 3 person baby thing or the invitrogenisis thingy. Im not trans but i am a lesbian so these methods would also work for me, this video was really interesting and is helpful for so many different types of people!
The three-person baby thing was a bit confused, but it was presented pretty confusingly in the media too. To understand this, you need to know a bit about mitochondria. Mitochondria are like little mini-organisms that live inside your cells and help them. The mitochondria are very important in the way cells use energy, you might have heard "the mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell". The mitochondria have their own DNA which they use to make more mitochondria and to make the tools they need for their energy processing job. That's all the mitochondrial DNA is for. Mitochondrial DNA doesn't code for much that's visible in the overall human, or anything you'd think about to do with relatedness in families. The only time you really notice differences in mitochondrial DNA is when something is very wrong, and the person is very ill because their mitochondria can't do their energy processing properly. Egg and sperm cells both have mitochondria, but an embryo gets all it's mitochondria from the egg and none from the sperm. In a "three person baby", you have the nuclear (main) dna from the two parents who will be bringing up the child, and the mitochondrial DNA from the "third" donor parent. This is useful when the parent who makes eggs has a mitochondrial disease. It allows that person to have biological children using their neuclear DNA without passing on their faulty mitochondria, so they can have a healthy child they're still related to. Taking mitochondrial DNA from Jamie wouldn't make the baby related to him in a way that would make much difference, because the mitochondrial DNA is only used for the way the cell uses energy.
@@SomeoneBeginingWithI mitochondria don't have dna.... Dna is in the nucleus..... Mitochondria is where respiration happens but the nucleus had the dna. They put the nucleus in the sperm cell
@@caraashji Mitochondria absolutely has DNA. It is separate from the nuclear dna and is passed from egg only to zygote, unlike nuclear DNA, which combines DNA from egg and sperm to form baby. The technology is, in fact, permitted to address problems people have because of poorly performing mitochondria, which is near guaranteed to pass on.
Try searching for ivig. I was taking ivig for a couple of years. I take it because I have Multiple Sclerosis. I am a part of the family. I have a partner the past 17 years.
I’m a kid of the care system and I now work in it as a support worker. Believe me when I say that adoption isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and I got one am absolutely not judging you for wanting to have your own children. I work with so many young people who have been adopted and eventually ended up back in the system because their parents didn’t have enough support. People see adoption as this magical thing that fixes all problems, and don’t get me wrong, when it works it’s amazing, but it’s the perfect thing that we’re often led to believe. I’m not trying to put you off adopting though, I just wanted to throw in my opinions and experiences. 😊
I know this from a different perspective as the younger sibling of kids who were adopted and it turned out badly. My parents (bio parents of me) adopted my cousins because they were being abused by their parents, and they both ended up sexually molesting me, and one of them ran away at 16 and didn't come back, and the other got returned to the foster care system when my parents realized he was a danger to me. Turned me really against older adoption for a long time, and only gradually got to the point where I might consider becoming a parent to an older adopted kid. And one of my hard limits is that I want my older adopted kid to be my youngest child, preferably with a significant age gap between them and any other kid I have, because I was over a decade younger than my cousins and utterly helpless, and if I end up adopting a kid with similar issues to my cousins, I don't want them having access to a vulnerable younger child.
Omg I was confused for the longest time because in France IVG stands for abortion ! (IVG = Interruption Volontaire de Grossesse = voluntary pregnancy interruption) I could tell I had heard the term before but was very confused about the explanation you guys gave !
@SMG Because since the initials were familiars to her/him/them because they probably live in France, they got confused. The same goes to you if suddenly in a serious conversation the initials FBI were brought up. It's not about the American FBI but something else, so what? You thought it was the American FBI for a sec but you can't think that even for a split second? Riiiiight....
oh my what. im a straight trans guy wanting children and almost gave up on this because its impossible but according to the last option its not! it sounds incredible! i have hope again! i would love to know more about ivg
I am adopted an my mom and dad let me know very early in my child hood that I was adopted, mom told me that I was very much loved an I was a blessing,why?? Because my rotten hearted cousins, ( my moms sisters little bastards) constantly told me I was unlovable an a mistake, ! So hears my point, when you all adopt please be the 1st to let your kid in on it , before anyone else does, not saying either one of you have rotten hearted bastards in your family.💖💖💕💖💖💖
Your cousins sound really nasty! I am sorry they said that to you. I agree, you should be the first person to tell your kid that they are adopted. You should tell your kid that they are adopted at all, because if the adoption is easy to hide (when it comes to background and things like that, and if your kid has some resemblance to you or your family), it could come out in a very ugly way.
My brother and I was bullied by my cousins when we were little and it was more than just unloved it was a bunch of things . I still think about it everyday . I'm glad to hear someone's story as well thank you . You made me night
*I wasn't adobted but I agree with you 100% . I want to adobt all of my children when the time comes . I hope I get a teenager as well as a toddler or younger
I was adopted as a baby.....all ok with family, as far as I can tell...but, I did get teased by kids!! That affected me negatively in some areas....oh, well at least was long before social media!!
Jessie and Claud have started talking seriously about having kids, I'd love if you guys did a follow-up video asking them what route they are considering and why; it'd be interesting to get their opinions.
Yeah, those two were discussing sometime in the new year. I think time with the nephew and buying the house are nudging them in the “okay, maybe baby time” direction.
I'm so happy I came across this video, my girlfriend and I have been doing research on how we could have children together, and we came across a process that would use my bone marrow as sperm and her egg, or vice versa. The process was still very much in the making, and we never came across a set name for it. This sounds a lot like IVG, and a lot less painful as drawing bone marrow is not at all an easy process. We are incredibly excited about this process as you both are, and I really hope for all of us and many other people out there that it soon becomes a fully functioning process!
Shabba: We both want kids Jamie: How can we have kids? Shabba: 10 kids Jamie: If you want 10 kids you're on your own. Shabba: I absolutely don't want 10 kids.
IVG COULD BE READY IN FIVE YEARS! I'm so relieved. I've always known I wanted to adopt an older child as well, but I'm a bisexual teen and the option of having a biological child with a girl is so cool! Thank you for these videos.
the last two options I hope to help develop once I finish my degree in bioengineering! Stem cell research and genetic modification are my passions, and knowing that couples like you guys would seriously benefit from that work, it makes me even more excited for the future! I do believe that to get the cells from Jamie for the final method, they dont need specifcally stem cells, there is a process to turn specified cells into nonspecified cells/stem cells and into other cells again. That process was developed only 3-5 years ago, and now it's being planned to be used to help infertile couples have children and help treat or cure genetic diseases, its just amazing technology and I wish people weren't so stigmatized against it.
@S011D Most biology professionals are 100% supportive of all kinds of trans people! Im surprised you haven't met more of us! All of the teachers who teach biology at my highschool were supper supportive of everyone in the LGBTQ and wouldn't take any bullshit from LGBTQ-phobic kids. They actually started a tradition at the school by putting LGBTQ Safespace stickers on their windows and almost every other teacher joined in soon after. They were my inspirations for going into biotech, gene therapy, and stem cell research, and I'm going to put those skills toward helping people just like they helped me through Highschool in an extremely religious town.
My wife has PCOS as well and no natural ovulation. So we had to revert to IVF to stimulate the follicles to mature. Little over 1 year later, it resulted in 9 fertilized eggs, 5 still in the freezer, 3 failed attempts. But two days ago we had our first positive pregnancy test ^_^ I wish you two all the luck, and may your wish come true as has ours (even tho we ain't there yet, so many hurdles yet to take)🙏
Hey, IVF baby here! Both my parents are straight and cis, but my mom had issues with her eggs so they had her sister donate an egg and my mom carried me! (It's the same thing you were talking about with using Jamie's brother as a sperm donor, just with eggs instead of sperm.) I just thought it was cool that other people knew this was an option! Every time I explain it to people they think it's this crazy miracle thing so it was fun to hear it mentioned so casually in this video! Also, I have 2 adopted brothers and totally love the idea of adopting older kids who got stuck in the system! Y'all are gonna be great parents when the time comes :)
While successful mice trails is huge. Making that leap from mice to human is tougher than most would think. That 2.5% difference is more significant than it appears.
@@mossisstumped why would you cry, that's not even normal. You should really see someone about your lack of emotional control (especially when you cry at something that is not even a tad bit emotional)
@@hamzaxx6722 , while I appreciate your concern, as someone who knows that at some point they want to have children and also that that may be with someone who is the same sex as them, I do in fact, find it "a tad bit emotional" that it may be a possibility in the future to have biological children with that person. It is something that I never thought would be possible and so to hear this so suddenly made me have a slightly emotional reaction. I can see how someone who this doesn't affect as much might not understand this, and maybe you are one of those people, however I think that this kind of news to a person like me seems like a perfectly normal thing to have an emotional reaction to. All the best wishes💕 ~SparkleyLemon
HOLY COW THE 5'TH OPTION SOUNDS AMAZING. I was honestly just giving up on the option of ever having biological children but now... wow you guys thank you SO so much for making this video and showing all of these options!
In French, IVG is "interruption volontaire de grossesse"... So, basically, abortion... As a French person, my brain definitely took 10 min to understand you correctly 😭
Hello Darlings! Listen, I adopted my daughter, and being real, I can't imagine loving her more. I feel as though I gave birth to her! She feels that I am her only mother, and loves me without fail. She is so awesome, plus she didn't inherit some negative, biological issues that I have, one being PCOS. Adoption is not an easy process, but so worth the effort. Great video, btw. Love to you both!
This is such a great video!! I’m sure this is something that most trans people don’t have enough information about, and I’m looking forward to continue seeing your journey.
The scientific advancements are amazing! You two are lovely, open-minded people and will be wonderful parents. Gd bless you on your journey to parenthood! ❤️🙏🌈
I really like how honest and chill ya'll are. It's nice to learn about things. I've heard about them all before, but having them explained in more depth by people exploring those choices is new.
Ok this video is actually so insanely helpful, thank you so much. I am 15 and haven't even started on T yet, but I was concerned because I would really like to have kids later in life. Thank you so much for reassuring me, this provides so many more options. Thanks :)
You don't know how much i appreciate this video. I want biological children but sadly nobody talks about the options (hell i had to educate my doctor on just freezing eggs and she basically called me crazy because "no trans person would want biological children."). So i really appreciate you guys educating about different options. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IVG! And it sounds like such a wonderful option! I thought my only option would be egg freezing but now i have hope because i might not have to do this incredibly invasive and dysphoria inducing procedure. So thank you guys so much!
y'all are cute also this is also somewhat helpful as i'm a lesbian and there's always a chance i could want to have kids with a trans woman, so thanks for making this y'all
...what? If you were a lesbian dating a trans woman, I'd assume you wouldn't have the same issues conceiving biological children, unless they already had full bottom surgery. In that case they wouldn't even produce gametes at all, but if they still did, like Jammi does, they would be able to produce sperm. It would make more sense that this info would be helpful in a cis lesbian relationship where both produce eggs, as both Jammi and Shaba produce eggs. Also, if you are referring to the last option for if you are in a relationship with a trans woman who has full bottom surgery and doesn't create gametes, I'm sorry but I don't think scientist have been able to get mature egg cells from egg cells created artificially from stem cells. Maybe someday.
I have a bisexual family member, and if he ends up with a male partner, I plan on offering my eggs. I wouldnt be comfortable being a surrogate, but I think it would be nice to allow them to have a child they are both related to
I can’t wait to see their kids because we all know that those kids will grow up in the most supportive, kind and wonderful household, so I hope every works well!!!!
As a science student I think you did a very good job explaning the last two methods. I hope you get to do the last one, the perspectives do seem very good :)
Personally, I think you guys are going about this beautifully! You know all the options, are weighing all the pros and cons carefully before making a decision and you’re planning on not only having biological children but also adopting. I think that’s wonderful!
Hey there! I’m a 60-something married dad who just discovered your videos, and I think you two are absolutely amazing! I’m so incredibly impressed by your courage and openness. What fabulous role models you are for young people who need this kind of support. My most sincere best wishes to you both, and thanks for sharing your life together with the world. Love and hugs!
You’re the type of person we need more of
@@marselsidbskd4503 yessss
this comment made me so happy i can’t even explain-
And that made ME happy! :-)
Oh my yesss I wish there was more people in the world like you
They’re still in the puppy love stage after 8 years lol
Mantaki Teke I mean...I thought it was cute 😐
Ah man. The person deleted the reply. I missed the tea
I bet the other person thought you were hating
Patit Sananpanich then they got issues
@@shaziakhaled lmao yeah true
When I hear "there are too many kids who need homes" it doesn't make me think more people should adopt it makes me think more people should have free access to birth control and sex education so they can choose to have children if/when they are ready.
makes me think of both tbh.
Agreed, adoption is a major crisis. But don’t forget about children taken away due to abusive parents. I think there needs to be more education all around in schools and more help for parents struggling :) x
but i hate that it costs so much to adopt i feel like it should be really cheap
ju ju s definitely should be x
@@ripstarboy though if it would be really cheap, imagine what kind of people would take children and would could they put them through. It's sad that the adoption isn't cheap and easy process, but it is the way it is for a child to have a better life than they were born into...
Haha "I have silicone balls that's why it's questionable" 😂 I love this
I wanted to like this, but it stands at 333. Not going to kill that.
ETA: It now stands at 402. Will the comment be lost when two more readers like it?
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Well he's got the dad jokes down
@@MichaelM28 They are talking about Jamie, dumbass.
I love dad jokes ^^
Michael McGrath HE’S no longer a she. Don’t you know what being transgender is???
@@MichaelM28 you idit
@@MichaelM28 I will never understand people like you. Why are you going out of your way to find a transgender video and hate on it? Get a life.
"if everyone is lgbt humanity will go extinct!"
Science : it's not a problem anymore!
No not rly
**Has been watching way too much Simply Nailogical this week**
Lovely grammar, also lgbt not lbgt
@@Alex-mr6gm oh yeah you're right for lgbt I didn't notice, was the sentence not correct? English is not my native language I'm still learning
then too bad i guess Your English is perfect from what I’ve seen! Keep going
Every time I watch a video with both Jamie and Shaaba, no matter how interesting the content is, I spend half the time thinking 'God, these two are so in love.'
citylight Ikr they act like such a stereotypical married couple and I love it, they haven’t even gotten married yet they’re ahead
Every time I watch videos wish Shaaba and Jamie I think about how me and my partner probably look like them from outsider's perspective
Honestly yeah they are so in sync and adorable it’s really cute
Seriously, relationship goals right there!
literally same
"So, yes, how do we have kids? We both want kids."
"Well, how can we have kids?"
"Ten kids."
"If you want ten kids, you're on your own."
one of my favourite parts in this video 😂
@@frankclough380 Lol XD
I didn't realize how much this would apply to me as a bisexual woman, and I'm on the brink of tears. I never knew that I might be able to have biological kids with my future partner if they were a woman, and it's honestly such a relief that that might be an option
Hurrah for the human race?
Same same😊 it's so lovely and sweet
Same here! Especially since I tend to prefer women... This is all so exciting.
(Jeff Goldblum voice) Life euh uh er uh finds a way
💚 yes!!
"How can a trans guy and his girlfriend have kids?"
**Me, a cisgender woman with zero interest in having children:** interesting
👀
same
Me, a gay 15 y/o ftm transgender: same👀
@@JacobsCoffee28omg, 18 y/o , ftm, gay and also No intressed in Kids. Do you want contact ?
Are you German, english or other ?
I was curious too 😂
I’m a biomedical engineer and the way that you two were explaining the complexities of fertility therapies/ genetic engineering were absolutely fantastic! Entertaining, easy to understand and spot on!
I read "biological engineer" 3 times. I was convincing myself you were making a joke about job and hobbies being described in sperm donors forms
@@isadoracostahamsi163 😂😂😂
i don't want birth kids but like the way they were describing it, now im like i dont want birth children.. unless they are made in a lab 😂
Let's see...extract a cell from him, grow it, at the haploid stage add it to her ovum.
"i have silicone balls" is the best line ever
Lmao
Ya so right
Came here to say the same 😂
Agreed
B a l l s O f S t e e l
You two as parents...I think any kid would be lucky to have you as their mommy and daddy.
That's your logic.
@@nonsensetalk8953 no. All children need is a loving home and parents that nurture them and care for them, to be the best they can be, to be there when that child needs support and love. How do I know this to be so??......my father was adopted from the age of 2 into a family that gave him all he needed to become the adult and loving father he now is to me and my other siblings. That's all children need, loving parents and a stable home.
Nonsense Talk your name says it all
Nonsense Talk Jesus calm down. It doesn’t matter if a parent is trans as long as they love you. Same as having parents who are both male or female, or would that be very confusing and bad for the children too?
that would be the sweetest kid ever
I can’t wait to see the cute and polite children you two raise
How ironic would that be if they adopt some child who murders someone by accident
@@emptyhead2777 Eh. Murders someone by accident? Kills someone by accident would be Involuntary manslaughter. "A killing that stems from a lack of intention to cause death but involving an intentional or negligent act leading to death."
Murder is with malice aforethought and intentional.
And ironic is a weird word in this. Tragic would be the word I would use.
Görel Barkbark i think they meant like if they accidentally adopt a child who murders someone
@@briaisabanana7031 I think they meant that it would be "ironic" if their cute and polite child became a murderer. I just nitpicked on Ninjacoolhead Alerts use of the phrase "murders someone by accident" which isn't achievable.
@@gorelbarkbark872 murdering someone by accident is possible
My husband and I are both cis, but cannot have kids the traditional way and seeing more people talk about assisted reproduction is so helpful.
I'm in the same boat. Assisted Reproductive Technologies are so wonderful for those of us who need a little help.
It's great! 😊
*waits excitedly in front of my laptop screen for 4-6 years*
*sits with "wanna watch anime while we wait?"*
Can I join y’all in waiting
@@abbyf763 yes you may.
*Player 4 has joined*
I have to wait 3-5 years for top surgery, I'll join you!
Shaaba: "I have POS, which means my fertility is also questionable"
Jamie: "Yes. And I have silicone balls, that's why my fertility is questionable"
I had to pause to breathe after that. 😂
Then I resumed and…
"questiona-ball"
GET OUT!!!
It's pcos
Shes not a pos
@@nonsensetalk8953 Have you tried not being a dick? It's actually quite nice. Also educate yourself before going around spouting nonsense.
@@nonsensetalk8953 shut the actual fuck up, so ignorant!
To know my future wife and I can have a child that's biologically ours made me cry. I don't know if I want kids but the option being there is so heart warming. Thank you for this.
I have 3 half-brothers because my father was sperm donor for a lesbian couple who are friends of my mom and dad. It's really cool because they are around the same age as me and my brother and we go to each others birthdays etc. ❤️❤️
Annabel Geerts That’s sooo cool!
That's actually genuinely so heart warming to hear how your siblings are included in each others lives. Your dad is a very lovely person to help your family friends have children like that.
420th like 👍
At least he knew what he was getting into I've seen a trend these days with some lesbians that trick the men to have babys with them and take em has anyone else seen this cause I have seen this 3xs already
@@mendozarodriguez4195 ... were these 3 instances from anons on Reddit or similar? Not buying what you are selling. Sorry. :)
Shaabas hair is amazing!!
Cathruska it isssss
Its Shaamazing!
Shaaba is amazing:)
it IS i was noticing that
Cathruska 💯
I’m asexual, and while I just discovered it recently, I’ve always known I didn’t want to have children biologically, it just makes me a little uncomfortable thinking about it, but I do plan on maybe adopting in the future, although I’d definitely want an older kid, cuz I’m not very good with younger ones, and I think it would be a good thing to do, although I may change my mind in the future, it’s not like it’s gonna happen soon
Do what makes you happy!
Ace comrade!
Me too! Up until literally a week ago, I thought asexual meant the same as gender nonbinary. I didn't know there was a name for how I felt.
Omg this is me too!!!
@@ManWithTheCow welcome to the community ! Also, asexuality is a sexuality... And gender non-binary is a gender orientation... Hope this clears it out
I was dying when he called her ‘awwww’
“Hey awwwww how’s your day”
Edit: bro’s… he is already a dad…
He’s a proud dad of a cat.
E n b y G O D he’s litterally already a dad xD
@@Hayden_Cat ...no..?
Pemanil Noob no I meant like spiritually/mentally because you know how dads have those awful jokes like when you say “dad I’m hungry” and the dad responds “hi hungry, I’m dad”. It’s that low level of humor we call “dad jokes”. Jamie called Shabaa “awww” which have me dad joke vibes so that’s why I was like “he’s already a dad”.
Get it?
@@Hayden_Cat I got it! :D * Feeling smart *
Pemanil Noob r/woooosh
"If you want ten kids, you're on your own."
I think I said that to my own fiance once.
Haha, I'm the oldest of ten. It's insane
@@haezrachiharmony5463 i'm the youngest of 5 XD
It's not 10 but I kind of get it
I'm the youngest of two, but am raising a large family (very close to yours). I get mixed reviews from my own kids, so how did/do you like being the oldest of ten?
I think a good thing about Jamie being transgender, is if they have daughters, he knows more about periods and can possible help/understand them
Well to be fair if males were taught that info then they would understand too, the problem is that the subject is often off limits or something when teaching boys about puberty then they grow up ignorant and females complain about them not understanding. Education is the answer to this problem
@@ciannacoleman5125 I mean not exactly. I haven’t met any males who find it gross or are completely 100% uneducated on it. It’s just level of maturity. Like how old the male is. By the time most guys are 14 they understand it a lot more lol
@@naomiivii4309 Unfortunately I have met quite a few teens over the age of 14 who are still very uncomfortable with it. I would say over all that as adults almost all of them figure out its not something to be grossed out by. But you're not wrong. 14 seems about the age that it would become more normal to them
@@ciannacoleman5125 Well, yes, that's why we need better and more comprehensive sex ED
I can only image, though
-Hey Daddy, how are babies made? How was I made?
-Well.... it’s complicated... let’s watch a video
Inês Gomes hey! Coincidência!
Awkward
Lol
cHiLd, tHe sCiEnTiStS hElPeD uS mAkE yOu
@@Zackisnotdead wait but that is kinda a huge flex for the child if you think about it.
I am so happy for you's. My husband's late wife was transgender. She was a beautiful kind woman. Always grateful as she had a huge part in showing my husband how to be a good husband. God Bless you both
What a beautiful way to think of your husbands late wife
I think you're the first person I ever heard talking so sweetly about her husband's first wife. You're an authentic human being
She was transgender? Is she dead?
@@Weather-more That's a very personal question and if she's dead or not is none of your business.
That's lovely ☺️
I’m a young trans man who in the future sees having biological kids as an option, thank you for opening my eyes to more opens that that don’t require invasive procedures and more female hormones and injections and compromisation or delay going on testosterone, wishing you and shaaba the best in all your future kiddy endeavours
If there is a way to use your stem cells and turn them into sperm, you would only be able to father daughters biologically.
I’m so glad you mentioned a “three-person baby”! I suffer from a rare physical disorder that has 50% of being passed on to my children. I had no idea this was even possible. Definitely looking more into it!
I was an IVF baby, my parents had one of the most successful rounds of IVF in history. They had one stillborn baby(RIP Josiah), one round of twins, and me. I was a very strong egg. I'm not sure how many rounds they had though
That’s really awesome
@@peppercamarena8586 Thanks!
RIP Josiah, fly high angel 🕊🕊
RIP Josiah
R.i.p Josiah
I also want to adopt an older child (when I'm older, of course). Everyone is so quick to flock to babies but I wanna give an older kid a chance at a loving family.
You should DEFINENTLY adopt older kids!!
Older kids are usually thrown to the side all the time in my country because everyone wants babies and toddlers, Specially kids that are already somewhat going through puberty.
Yess. A lot of teens and preteens kind of get pushed to the side because they aren't cute and sweet any more. But that doesn't mean they don't deserve a chance at a loving family.
Me and my girlfriend (Dating for 2 weeks), if we stay together forever, we would want to adopt a kid from 5-10
Yes. Alot of the time people never get them because they want a baby or toddler. And most of the time they're adopted they're abused which is absolutely horrible! Thank you for wanting to adopt older kids!
Bless you. There are so many that need a loving home . 💙💚❤️
I love how much you guys respect eachother especially when talking about a sensitive subject like children!
Love this channel!!!!!!
There are another option called embryo donation or embryo adoption, where you can adopt embryos from another couple who has went through IVF and has embryos left. This would of course be a form of adoption and the baby wouldn’t be biologically yours, but it would allow Shaaba to be pregnant with your adoptive child
I have friends who did this because they were both infertile, and now they have 3 children. It's always amusing when someone comments about how much the babies look like them, because...well... LoL
This is also amazing of a choice!
My husband and I did IVF because of fertility issues, but we got more embryos than we were told it was possible/most likely. We were initially planning to take them all through time, but when we found out how many they actually were, we got scared and doubtful. I really hope they are going to make embryo donation legal in our country (Italy) because we want all of them to have a chance at life. I don't want to die knowing that one or two are still frozen there. A friend of mine did IVF too, and she said she wouldn't donate any embryos left, mostly because she would be too scared that that person and her "own" children could meet and have a romantic relationship. I would donate in a blink, without a second thought, to anyone from a relative to an anonymous couple of any gender on the other side of the world.
@@carr0760 I'm not surprised someone sees a resemblance where there is 0% biological relation. Looking like someone is a lot about attitude, demeanor, walking, facial expressions, style and so on... things we early learn rather than being born with. one more proof, if we needed any, that a child's "real" parent is the person who loves them, raises them and cares for them.
@@ELisa-qf2mw sure, but in this case I'm talking about comments like "she has your eyes/nose/chin" from the day they were born. LoL
Hey guys, Im a french phD biology student ! I just want to mention you that your last option is fully achievable but you only can have girls because any of you have Y chromosome in his DNA and science can’t create one ! But if I understand correctly girls is what you would have so its perfect for you ! Send you french scientific love !! ❤️
Awesome, thanks for the information
Single mom by choice here....I wanted a girl and did PGD genetic testing with gender selection, and had 2 girls and 2 boys (embryos). I put in 2 girls, got a chemical pregnancy. Froze the 2 boys for later. Next cycle, put in all 3 embryos without testing and ended up pregnant with 1 boy. I'm due next week. So, sometimes you want a specific gender, and unless you pay $$$$$ to keep sorting the embryos according to gender with IVF, you won't get what you want. There's no guarantee that when you put in girl embryos that they will implant and result in the live birth of a biological girl.
it’s so amazing ,But how long is it
Correcting: * none of you
Great contribution 👍
Just wanted to tell you - I study for a BA in psychology, and one of my electives in a class about psychology of gender. The professor is super cool and she always inserts all kinds of pictures and videos in the lesson. Anyway - we were talking about trans people, and the video she chose to show was your 3 years on T video! I was too excited for my own good...
Stand Up is just a TERF, I’d ignore them if I were you
TERF isn’t a sexist slur, you absolute ignoramus. How someone has it in their hearts to be so transphobic is beyond me, we must support our sisters, not just our cis-ters
I think that there are a few predatory people out there who use the transgender movement to advance their own agendas (e.g. Jonathan/"Jessica Yaniv) , but the majority of transgender people just want to live their lives quietly as their perceived gender and most people would not even know better. We should not paint the whole transgender population with the brush of some loud, attention seeking individuals.
@@standup2982 ok...you must be very uneducated.
"Pushing an agenda"? In college? For studying gender?! That's LITERALLY what they signed up to learn about. Its not an agenda, its education. That's like saying going to school for French is pushing a French agenda. But you wouldn't say that, because that is stupid.
Just accept your anti-trans movement is dumb and pointless, TERF.
@@standup2982 how the hell is it violent?
Also, how is it sexist? I know you all hate men, but there are definitely male TERFs.
I am a conservative Christian person that doesn’t usually get very opened minded about things like your circumstances but wow I am in love with you both. You are both doing amazing things. Thank you for sharing.
You are the type of Christian we need more of
- August -
I agree
thats so nice
As a lgbtq+ Christian myself seeing christian allies warms my heart. Thank you
@@jen5138 lol what a killjoy you are.
i love that you say “why am i so irritating to you today” rather than “why are you so irritated today” 🥰
I love you two. I love this channel.
That being said, as an adopted person who is very familiar with the issues in adoption and sperm donation, please consider a donor who the child can find when they are an adult. Just having the option to search and find family/genetics/whatever later in life can mean everything to young people. It's just part of our identities and children do grow up and often really want to know everything.
Good luck on your journey.
This is why I only considered ID Release sperm donors when picking the sperm I've been using to try to conceive. I don't know if my kid will care. But if they don't, it won't have mattered, and if they do, it'll be better for them to have a donor who has agreed to be open to meeting.
I like how you say "4 to 6 years" but Jamie is an awkward dad already
I love your adopting an older child. I was adopted at 14 so it’s amazing to see
Jammi’s face when doing sound effects were priceless
*Jamie*
*Jammi's* its Jamie lol
Wait i feel like i got woooshed somehow-
Omg I think I got woooshed lol
Jammi is his nickname i think lol
Ooh it gets right on my last nerve when people state that people with fertility issues should "just adopt because there's children who need a home". You're so right Shabba, adoption is very much a personal choice, it's not for everyone, and its damm hard to even be approved let alone actually adopt and bring up an adopted family.......and it's not the responsibility of those with fertility issues to adopt!!! Its a ridiculous concept. How many cis couples wanting children get told to adopt rather than having bio children, or only expand their family with adopted children?! As if fertility issues aren't hard enough to deal and live with, then comes along others judgement and shame to really smack you up round the head!
Have your family however the heck you can guys. So long as it's safe for you both and baby long term, then do it. Trust me when I tell you, life is too damm short.
Love to all x
I hear you. The only people i regularly say that to are those who are anti-choice on the basis that the babies will be adopted. That just pisses me off.
exactly, if it was that easy, there would be no children in care
I suppose the question I have with the '3 person baby' is how do you balance a personal right/need with a process that is akin genetic engineering and DNA manipulation. For me, I would be very nervous about having a child this way just so I would feel a hypothetical biological connection. That said, I wish them all the best, they seem like a loving couple who should be able to be parents.
@@jamesdavison8177 people are gonna people. The ethics will probable take time to settle, and some will prob remain contentious. 🤷🏾♀️
@@jamesdavison8177 totally understand your concern here. The same concerns were, and to a certain degree still are there regarding donor egg/donor sperm/donor embryo and egg sharing etc. This is obviously an extremely contentious and important topic, which I'm sure over time will evolve. It will take an awfully long time to be considered before used, especially in the UK where genetic modification is very regulated (for instance eye colour is one of the many genetic characteristics that can be chosen, but the UK don't allow it in fertility treatments, and genetic testing and its implementation is only currently for chronic health issues of the child that may be passed down from the biological parent/donor). If this will ever come to pass in our lifetime is yet to be seen, but I'm forever hopeful for the continual discoveries and improvements in fertility treatments, and pregnancy conditions, because so much of our creation and growth is still very much unknown.
Shabaa! Don't lose hope on carrying! I have PCOS as well, and I've had two healthy pregnancies!
Jamie has the dad jokes so down 🤣🤣
He's so ready to be a dad XD
Arwen XIV honestly they will both make amazing parents
Thank you for what you said about its okay to want biological kids. I'm infertile and have heard "oh, just adopt" but adopting has never been something for me. And I already have step children. People dont ask people who are pregnant why they didnt adopt instead of getting pregnant so why should that be suggested for anyone who has struggles to concieve.
Because they can have children and you can't!! Simple as that! I did have two of my own children and then wanted to adopt! But then came the unforeseen circumstances, like my husband cheating on me. But I would have been more then glad to adopt a hundred children if I could. So get the chip off your shoulder, ugh.
@@ellenrichardson8701 No chips here. But, why should those who are infertile be the ones to adopt children? The logic literally makes no sense. It's not really fair to the adoptive children either, they should be the FIRST choice. Maybe try understanding from an empathetic perspective and you'd understand, if you're capable of doing that.
@@angieeemmmarie Whatever floats your boat honey! Coming across in a manner of speaking, that any adoptee would not be good enough for you, because that is your simple mindset. So no, you should not be the person to adopt if you feel that you can't love them as freely as you would your own child. Sad....
I’m just happy people who don’t want to adopt aren’t adopting and putting children through the pain of being unwanted. So thank angieee mmmarie!
@@ellenrichardson8701 I think it's more to do with the biological instinct to spread your genes that some people have that is hard to get over not because they dont want to adopt. However yes you're right adoption should be thought about more by some people too because its not all about biological instincts. However some people bio instincts are very strong so... adoption is not a second choice and is not worse def not, it's just that some people have different instincts some want to adopt a lot more than others instinctually.
I learned about stem cell research in biology and my first thoughts were (oh my god can same sex couples have kids now) and I didn’t ask since I’m at a catholic high school and I’m in no way out and that’d be awkward, but I’m so happy IVG can be a thing so soon too because the world is progressive and this sounds wonderful.
Aww so glad you found this space and happy for you that stem cell research is a thing! 😊
I wonder when IVG will be available
@@yasharahmed7601 no one's sure, I've seen anywhere between 5 years and 20. Obviously if its on the latter end of that estimate it won't be an option at all for most people currently or shortly looking to have kids.
@@Potatopot724 The answer is it can be possible in humans in bout 5 years, but it'll take 20 plus years of ethical debate to figure out how to safely use it without having designer babies.
@@rosieg6989 when it will available for use though for the masses!!
I want to do the 3 person baby thing or the invitrogenisis thingy. Im not trans but i am a lesbian so these methods would also work for me, this video was really interesting and is helpful for so many different types of people!
The three-person baby thing was a bit confused, but it was presented pretty confusingly in the media too. To understand this, you need to know a bit about mitochondria. Mitochondria are like little mini-organisms that live inside your cells and help them. The mitochondria are very important in the way cells use energy, you might have heard "the mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell". The mitochondria have their own DNA which they use to make more mitochondria and to make the tools they need for their energy processing job. That's all the mitochondrial DNA is for. Mitochondrial DNA doesn't code for much that's visible in the overall human, or anything you'd think about to do with relatedness in families. The only time you really notice differences in mitochondrial DNA is when something is very wrong, and the person is very ill because their mitochondria can't do their energy processing properly.
Egg and sperm cells both have mitochondria, but an embryo gets all it's mitochondria from the egg and none from the sperm. In a "three person baby", you have the nuclear (main) dna from the two parents who will be bringing up the child, and the mitochondrial DNA from the "third" donor parent. This is useful when the parent who makes eggs has a mitochondrial disease. It allows that person to have biological children using their neuclear DNA without passing on their faulty mitochondria, so they can have a healthy child they're still related to.
Taking mitochondrial DNA from Jamie wouldn't make the baby related to him in a way that would make much difference, because the mitochondrial DNA is only used for the way the cell uses energy.
@@SomeoneBeginingWithI mitochondria don't have dna.... Dna is in the nucleus..... Mitochondria is where respiration happens but the nucleus had the dna. They put the nucleus in the sperm cell
@@caraashji Mitochondria absolutely has DNA. It is separate from the nuclear dna and is passed from egg only to zygote, unlike nuclear DNA, which combines DNA from egg and sperm to form baby. The technology is, in fact, permitted to address problems people have because of poorly performing mitochondria, which is near guaranteed to pass on.
Nuclear DNA codes for mitochondria as well.
IMPROVISE
AD”O”PT
OVERCOME
Haha love that :))
sadly i don't get it
@@vitoisadoll it's like that Bear Grylls meme where it says "improvise. Adapt. Overcome" except it says "adopt" instead of "adapt"
@@emlem8420 oh- now i feel dumb JSKDJSK
You adapted the adapt
I'm trans and hearing that I'll be able to have biological children with my partner is super cool
What about a trans girl? ( I’m a trans girl)
@@Sparkshot99 If you're with someone biologically male, a surrogate. If you're with someone biologically female, frozen sperm or sperm donor.
I’m a young trans man and honestly I’ve never heard of IVG and honestly? I think I want to do that when I’m older. Thanks for mentioning it
Same I had never heard of it. It makes me happy to have that information now.
Try searching for ivig. I was taking ivig for a couple of years. I take it because I have Multiple Sclerosis. I am a part of the family. I have a partner the past 17 years.
I’m a kid of the care system and I now work in it as a support worker. Believe me when I say that adoption isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and I got one am absolutely not judging you for wanting to have your own children. I work with so many young people who have been adopted and eventually ended up back in the system because their parents didn’t have enough support. People see adoption as this magical thing that fixes all problems, and don’t get me wrong, when it works it’s amazing, but it’s the perfect thing that we’re often led to believe. I’m not trying to put you off adopting though, I just wanted to throw in my opinions and experiences. 😊
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I know this from a different perspective as the younger sibling of kids who were adopted and it turned out badly. My parents (bio parents of me) adopted my cousins because they were being abused by their parents, and they both ended up sexually molesting me, and one of them ran away at 16 and didn't come back, and the other got returned to the foster care system when my parents realized he was a danger to me. Turned me really against older adoption for a long time, and only gradually got to the point where I might consider becoming a parent to an older adopted kid. And one of my hard limits is that I want my older adopted kid to be my youngest child, preferably with a significant age gap between them and any other kid I have, because I was over a decade younger than my cousins and utterly helpless, and if I end up adopting a kid with similar issues to my cousins, I don't want them having access to a vulnerable younger child.
The glow on Shaaba's face after the whole conversation made me smile so much! She looked so happy at the idea of any future with you, it's so lovely
Omg I was confused for the longest time because in France IVG stands for abortion ! (IVG = Interruption Volontaire de Grossesse = voluntary pregnancy interruption)
I could tell I had heard the term before but was very confused about the explanation you guys gave !
I almost commented that ^^
I know!! Just a second I was like "... IT DOESN'T MAKES ANY SENSE"
Yeah me too, that was so confusing!
@SMG Because since the initials were familiars to her/him/them because they probably live in France, they got confused. The same goes to you if suddenly in a serious conversation the initials FBI were brought up. It's not about the American FBI but something else, so what? You thought it was the American FBI for a sec but you can't think that even for a split second? Riiiiight....
Wait wait wait, pregnancy is grossesse in french?
Shaaba: "YOU can carry the baby"
Jamie: 😶
I'm laughing so hard right now 🤣🤣
oh my what. im a straight trans guy wanting children and almost gave up on this because its impossible but according to the last option its not! it sounds incredible! i have hope again! i would love to know more about ivg
Nobody:
Jamie: *I have silicone balls*
I am adopted an my mom and dad let me know very early in my child hood that I was adopted, mom told me that I was very much loved an I was a blessing,why?? Because my rotten hearted cousins, ( my moms sisters little bastards) constantly told me I was unlovable an a mistake, ! So hears my point, when you all adopt please be the 1st to let your kid in on it , before anyone else does, not saying either one of you have rotten hearted bastards in your family.💖💖💕💖💖💖
Your cousins sound really nasty! I am sorry they said that to you. I agree, you should be the first person to tell your kid that they are adopted. You should tell your kid that they are adopted at all, because if the adoption is easy to hide (when it comes to background and things like that, and if your kid has some resemblance to you or your family), it could come out in a very ugly way.
My brother and I was bullied by my cousins when we were little and it was more than just unloved it was a bunch of things . I still think about it everyday . I'm glad to hear someone's story as well thank you . You made me night
*I wasn't adobted but I agree with you 100% . I want to adobt all of my children when the time comes . I hope I get a teenager as well as a toddler or younger
I was adopted as a baby.....all ok with family, as far as I can tell...but, I did get teased by kids!! That affected me negatively in some areas....oh, well at least was long before social media!!
An adopted child is the opposite of a mistake, so jokes on them!
If my relationship ain't like this (not regarding gender but simply how cute you two are as a couple) then I don't want it.
ok but can we talk about Shaaba’s sweater-
i just need that
Jessie and Claud have started talking seriously about having kids, I'd love if you guys did a follow-up video asking them what route they are considering and why; it'd be interesting to get their opinions.
So are Ash and Grace! So many rainbow youtube kids ahead! Im so exited.
And Rose and Rosie!!
Yeah, those two were discussing sometime in the new year. I think time with the nephew and buying the house are nudging them in the “okay, maybe baby time” direction.
I'm so happy I came across this video, my girlfriend and I have been doing research on how we could have children together, and we came across a process that would use my bone marrow as sperm and her egg, or vice versa. The process was still very much in the making, and we never came across a set name for it. This sounds a lot like IVG, and a lot less painful as drawing bone marrow is not at all an easy process. We are incredibly excited about this process as you both are, and I really hope for all of us and many other people out there that it soon becomes a fully functioning process!
Shaaba is so eloquent. I love her.
Shabba: We both want kids
Jamie: How can we have kids?
Shabba: 10 kids
Jamie: If you want 10 kids you're on your own.
Shabba: I absolutely don't want 10 kids.
IVG COULD BE READY IN FIVE YEARS!
I'm so relieved. I've always known I wanted to adopt an older child as well, but I'm a bisexual teen and the option of having a biological child with a girl is so cool! Thank you for these videos.
Option 6:
*More cats !*
Cats!
Cats!!
Cats!
*Meow*
THE MUSICAL
Jk
That would be AWFUL
the last two options I hope to help develop once I finish my degree in bioengineering! Stem cell research and genetic modification are my passions, and knowing that couples like you guys would seriously benefit from that work, it makes me even more excited for the future! I do believe that to get the cells from Jamie for the final method, they dont need specifcally stem cells, there is a process to turn specified cells into nonspecified cells/stem cells and into other cells again. That process was developed only 3-5 years ago, and now it's being planned to be used to help infertile couples have children and help treat or cure genetic diseases, its just amazing technology and I wish people weren't so stigmatized against it.
@S011D Most biology professionals are 100% supportive of all kinds of trans people! Im surprised you haven't met more of us! All of the teachers who teach biology at my highschool were supper supportive of everyone in the LGBTQ and wouldn't take any bullshit from LGBTQ-phobic kids. They actually started a tradition at the school by putting LGBTQ Safespace stickers on their windows and almost every other teacher joined in soon after. They were my inspirations for going into biotech, gene therapy, and stem cell research, and I'm going to put those skills toward helping people just like they helped me through Highschool in an extremely religious town.
Do you have any idea on how many years it is gonna take for IVG to be available?
My wife has PCOS as well and no natural ovulation.
So we had to revert to IVF to stimulate the follicles to mature.
Little over 1 year later, it resulted in 9 fertilized eggs, 5 still in the freezer, 3 failed attempts.
But two days ago we had our first positive pregnancy test ^_^
I wish you two all the luck, and may your wish come true as has ours (even tho we ain't there yet, so many hurdles yet to take)🙏
My little biology nerd brain is having a field day now lol
Hey, IVF baby here! Both my parents are straight and cis, but my mom had issues with her eggs so they had her sister donate an egg and my mom carried me! (It's the same thing you were talking about with using Jamie's brother as a sperm donor, just with eggs instead of sperm.) I just thought it was cool that other people knew this was an option! Every time I explain it to people they think it's this crazy miracle thing so it was fun to hear it mentioned so casually in this video!
Also, I have 2 adopted brothers and totally love the idea of adopting older kids who got stuck in the system! Y'all are gonna be great parents when the time comes :)
i was conceived through ivf :) im so glad its helping out people in the trans community! im a trans teen and im so happy for you both! best of luck
i’m adopted! i’m so glad you want to adopt older kid(s), it makes my heart happy
Wow love the option number 5...
I had no idea this would ever be a possibility. Thank you so much for this informative video 😊
I literally started crying when I heard that one💕
While successful mice trails is huge. Making that leap from mice to human is tougher than most would think. That 2.5% difference is more significant than it appears.
@@mossisstumped why would you cry, that's not even normal. You should really see someone about your lack of emotional control (especially when you cry at something that is not even a tad bit emotional)
@@hamzaxx6722 , while I appreciate your concern, as someone who knows that at some point they want to have children and also that that may be with someone who is the same sex as them, I do in fact, find it "a tad bit emotional" that it may be a possibility in the future to have biological children with that person. It is something that I never thought would be possible and so to hear this so suddenly made me have a slightly emotional reaction. I can see how someone who this doesn't affect as much might not understand this, and maybe you are one of those people, however I think that this kind of news to a person like me seems like a perfectly normal thing to have an emotional reaction to.
All the best wishes💕
~SparkleyLemon
@@mossisstumped You literally learn about IVF and IVG in GCSE biology, but ok ...
Shaaba: 10 kids
Jammi: If you want 10 kids you're on your own
I died laughing, typical male lol.
Tbh i would say that too if my husband said that!
@@lucyhodges8773 Me too. I am not popping out 10 kids lol
Unrelated topic but that's an interesting pfp
@@okalright3941 yeah I was just gonna say that
seeing them together always brings a huge smile to my face
HOLY COW THE 5'TH OPTION SOUNDS AMAZING. I was honestly just giving up on the option of ever having biological children but now... wow you guys thank you SO so much for making this video and showing all of these options!
Idk why but “be my egg” automatically translated to “be my valentine” in my head. I got so confused
In French, IVG is "interruption volontaire de grossesse"... So, basically, abortion... As a French person, my brain definitely took 10 min to understand you correctly 😭
saaaaame, at first I was like WUT? how the fuck it would works ??! XD
Lmao xd
It’s the same in Italian... took a bit to me as well.
Hello fellow French person, yes it did take me a minute to readjust my brain lol
Je compatis-
Hello Darlings! Listen, I adopted my daughter, and being real, I can't imagine loving her more. I feel as though I gave birth to her! She feels that I am her only mother, and loves me without fail. She is so awesome, plus she didn't inherit some negative, biological issues that I have, one being PCOS. Adoption is not an easy process, but so worth the effort. Great video, btw. Love to you both!
I absolutely love her!!! Her vibe is so refreshing!! I pray they remain happy together!! They are such a beautiful couple!
You two are so in love. However/if ever any kids end up in your home they will be extremely lucky and loved.
Extremely lucky 🍀
I love learning about these things even though I'm not transgender. Also, you two are adorable.
Same lol
The sound effects and Shaaba’s reactions were adorable
whatever option you choose, your child will be 100% an incredibly kind and intelligent person
This is such a great video!! I’m sure this is something that most trans people don’t have enough information about, and I’m looking forward to continue seeing your journey.
The scientific advancements are amazing!
You two are lovely, open-minded people and will be wonderful parents. Gd bless you on your journey to parenthood! ❤️🙏🌈
I'm really trying to focus on your scientific explainations of the three-person-baby, but you two are just being so wholesome, I can't ;-;
I really like how honest and chill ya'll are. It's nice to learn about things. I've heard about them all before, but having them explained in more depth by people exploring those choices is new.
Ok this video is actually so insanely helpful, thank you so much. I am 15 and haven't even started on T yet, but I was concerned because I would really like to have kids later in life. Thank you so much for reassuring me, this provides so many more options. Thanks :)
You don't know how much i appreciate this video. I want biological children but sadly nobody talks about the options (hell i had to educate my doctor on just freezing eggs and she basically called me crazy because "no trans person would want biological children."). So i really appreciate you guys educating about different options. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IVG! And it sounds like such a wonderful option! I thought my only option would be egg freezing but now i have hope because i might not have to do this incredibly invasive and dysphoria inducing procedure. So thank you guys so much!
@Stormie MacLeod thank you so much. I really appreciate this sentiment, believe me. :)
watching shaaba make the same face as i did when he said "procesees" was one of the funniest thing i've seen today
What a lovely couple you are! I love how positive and respectful you are. I'm wishing you and your future kids all the best!
y'all are cute
also this is also somewhat helpful as i'm a lesbian and there's always a chance i could want to have kids with a trans woman, so thanks for making this y'all
...what? If you were a lesbian dating a trans woman, I'd assume you wouldn't have the same issues conceiving biological children, unless they already had full bottom surgery. In that case they wouldn't even produce gametes at all, but if they still did, like Jammi does, they would be able to produce sperm.
It would make more sense that this info would be helpful in a cis lesbian relationship where both produce eggs, as both Jammi and Shaba produce eggs.
Also, if you are referring to the last option for if you are in a relationship with a trans woman who has full bottom surgery and doesn't create gametes, I'm sorry but I don't think scientist have been able to get mature egg cells from egg cells created artificially from stem cells. Maybe someday.
elines acevedo no we wouldn't have the same issues but it's still a good insight o.0
I have a bisexual family member, and if he ends up with a male partner, I plan on offering my eggs. I wouldnt be comfortable being a surrogate, but I think it would be nice to allow them to have a child they are both related to
"if you want ten kids you're on you're own" BAHAHHDJF
"I'm on fire today. Not in a good way." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can’t wait to see their kids because we all know that those kids will grow up in the most supportive, kind and wonderful household, so I hope every works well!!!!
You guys explained better than my biology professor no joke 😭
This is their doctoral field, it’s awesome!
Can we just make the term "spermboat" be a legit medical term? I would have had so much more fun in bio if it was :D
All I can think of is the tragic fate of the sperm cells in Cells at Work: Code Black…don’t read that manga if you want to have a happy day.
As a science student I think you did a very good job explaning the last two methods. I hope you get to do the last one, the perspectives do seem very good :)
Personally, I think you guys are going about this beautifully! You know all the options, are weighing all the pros and cons carefully before making a decision and you’re planning on not only having biological children but also adopting. I think that’s wonderful!
if you want 10 kids you are on your own
already loving this video