Me & my brother did a bit of local racing back in the 80's & possibly 90's. Some outdoor grass track & indoor carpet also. The main thing I remember is the stress of a brand new shell getting trashed by some aggressive sod! And screaming "MARSHAL" to get my car righted! I don't think I was cut out for it!!!! We only ever used Tamiya's, Boomerang & Super Sabre, so were never going to be fully competitive. The Schumacher CATS of the day were absolutely amazing off road, the best drivers were incredibly respectful & ruthlessly efficient too. Good times. All the best to you Phil, & everyone else involved!
One other thing: fast isn't necessarily faster.....one wipe out and you've negated any lead you got from going faster. Getting the right line around a corner is faster than going around it quicker......
@@niltonganhao2051 I have NO clue who tuned me into this, go karting? car racing? I dunno but with gearing and throttle, you want to JUST hit your max speed at the point you have to start braking on the straight. If you peak too soon? You're geared too low. If you are still accelerating? you're geared too high. It makes sense because if you're geared too high, you won't get good acceleration out of the corners too because you'll bog down. If you're geared too low, you might get oversteer and spin out and if you have lots of grip, you'll unweight the front wheels and get understeer. But what do I know? I couldn't make it around that track once without wiping out. I have the hand eye coordination of a turnip lol
Weight Weight is key, you’d be surprised on how much weight you can lose with just using different items, screws, bolts for instance A car lighter is better than a car making max weight The kit issue items are all binned for lighter products. Be surprised the time difference per lap and the handling
@@escos0410 oh for sure, that's why switching them all for titanium is often done. This is why many airlines use a polished fuselage instead of a painted one: the paint adds a thousand lbs which costs thousands of gallons of fuel over the life of the plane.
Funny thing is - racing is exactly first thing I did in the hobby. Currently looking for something to bash between the races. B6.4 is a great platform and it was a pure joy to build it.
Racing rc cars was my Nascar as a kid because I couldn't afford a Kart to race in. All of my love for rc stems from that. Don't sell yourself short! Racing is one of the many great aspects of rc
The build looks so nice!!!! I'm currently building the Team associated 6.4D at the moment and it's actually my very first RC car I own too!!! It's such a nice build!!!!!
I've been going to MB Models for years now, it's where I got my first RC car, just bought a Tamiya TT02 Porsche from them, lovely blokes, definitely check em out.
Hey Phil, I think in the build video I saw your ESC has a capacitor pack, if you plugged it in backwards you probably only blew the capacitors which are replaceable. It is worth trying to desolder them and trying a new set. I did the same thing to my Hobbywing Max 10 and after new capacitors it was good as new.
I have actually done the exact same thing blown luckily a very cheap esc and I had a spare on the shelf ... I like you will probably be extra careful from now on to actually make sure they are plugged in the right way ...
Racing is a whole other animal. Its FUN, ADDICTIVE like crazy, and can get expensive!! But the fun trumps it. If your competitive, it feeds the nature.
Regarding the shock filling with oil and bleeding you should put the spring retainer on the bottom before compressing to bleed because it will actually be a tiny bit less compression since it's up to 3-5 mm less that it can compress and less oil squirted out. Because obviously under use it can't compress that far .. slightly underfilled shocks just won't work quite right and sooner till they need refilling.
A suggestion if you put your rear shocks upside down you get some insane searing. I did that to my 6.4 today at the track and it was night and day difference. It makes it to where you are able to transfer the weight in the rear end a lot quicker and lowers the cg down a bit. I am also running 35 in the front and 30 in the rear. it allows for more searing.
Looking pretty dialled and already putting some good laps together. No shame if you lose to Kev - he has done some racing in the past and has done quite a bit recently at his local track - which he is obviously more familiar with. Looking forward to seeing the show - have fun with it.
Springs control the stiffness. The fluid in the shock controls the rate of dampening. Thinner fluid will have less dampening but if springs still the same then it will be as stiff. Change springs first to get stiffness needed then check for rebound. If bouncy then thicken the shock fluid until there is a dampening effect and no springing about.
The buggy looks awesome and ready to rumble! You have absolutely nothing to lose in this race Phil and all to gain! A dangerous man on track that is! Watch out pack!! Yes l know its all about the fun! Yeah right!!! But have fun and good luck!
Lovely car and track there, you were driving smooth good practice session, looking forward to seeing the race for real soon, shame about blowing up ax200 quid esc, easy misake done that a couple of times myself
@@TomleyRC . If you have time to get to it. Could you do some more FMS Atlas 6x6 videos? I have one I’m working on. Planning to do a Furitek conversion when I get back to workin. Just had surgery on my hand last Friday. Gives you time to make some upgrade videos if it interest you? Just a thought haha. Anyways, I enjoy your videos and your approach to the hobby. Even being a knowledgeable seasoned veteran. Of the hobby and military. Take care and stay well.
Nice, my 3 year old son's a Kevin Talbot fan (he drives a maverick quantum, a mini z crawler and a 144002 a few times a week) We watch both of you, I will be on team Tomley & the wee man will be on team Talbot :) Will be great fun seeing you 2 race :)
Nice to see the track, im there next weekend for the euromasters, goid luck for the race, see a few more may be going 👍 should be a few great vids out soon 😁
Brother, that was some wicked great driving for it being your first time on the track. No doubt you and Kevin are going to make this race awesome. I'm going to build my first rc, once it comes out I'm buying the Kyosho Dirt Master buggy kit.
The car looks great and you drove well. Ii think you will give Talbot a very good race. I have smoked an esc before. I have had to put a piece of red tape next to the positive hole on the battery.
Haven’t Built a race kit since when I did race in 93-95. I raced 1/10 4WD electric , I started with a used Schumacher ProCat , and bought a brand new Kyosho Lazer zx r, mk ii , Tekin esc, 10x2 brushed motor . With 7.2v Saddle pack Matched Sanyo SCRC, I got set up tips from other ppl and went with I felt worked for me,. I won a season even😊
I realy since a period of time watching every video of you and I prefer your channel ! I watch out for any New vids ! Great youtuber !! Grt Angelo from belgium
You did really well can t blv was your first time rc Racing. You need head 2 Malta next and gozo some gr8 out door tracks there you will enjoy it gr8 content
Wow can't belive they are your first laps . Well done . On another note make sure u lock tight vthe screws inside your shocks otherwise u will have a bad day . Good luck dude
Looks really good, could you do a video with a top spec/race Tamiya Top Force vs a new 4wd race buggy from the likes of team associated or Shumacher etc, would love to see how a vintage buggy fully maxed out will perform against a modern buggy in a race.
I just dug out an original RC10 B4 Team Competition I bought way back when. It has a NovaShock Brushless & ESC. Is it worth upgrading the electronics, or are the newer RC10s just in a different league these days?
9:30 This is what ticks me off about electronics makers.....why on earth wouldn't they simply add a reverse polarity protection circuit in? I'm no electronics whiz but I know enough to know that all it would take is 2 diodes...plug in the battery the wrong way and the current wouldn't flow past the diodes (they are directional). NO damage done. Reverse the polarity and voila, done.
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very nice vid
Keep it up
Me & my brother did a bit of local racing back in the 80's & possibly 90's. Some outdoor grass track & indoor carpet also. The main thing I remember is the stress of a brand new shell getting trashed by some aggressive sod! And screaming "MARSHAL" to get my car righted! I don't think I was cut out for it!!!! We only ever used Tamiya's, Boomerang & Super Sabre, so were never going to be fully competitive. The Schumacher CATS of the day were absolutely amazing off road, the best drivers were incredibly respectful & ruthlessly efficient too. Good times.
All the best to you Phil, & everyone else involved!
Racing is addictive Tomley. It’s amazing how close setting the car up is to the real thing
You’ll see a huge difference to a basher
One other thing: fast isn't necessarily faster.....one wipe out and you've negated any lead you got from going faster. Getting the right line around a corner is faster than going around it quicker......
@@muskokamike127 true, i have chased speed and always ended up crashing...balance (power + steering + suspension + toe & camber )
equals WIN WIN
@@niltonganhao2051 I have NO clue who tuned me into this, go karting? car racing? I dunno but with gearing and throttle, you want to JUST hit your max speed at the point you have to start braking on the straight.
If you peak too soon? You're geared too low. If you are still accelerating? you're geared too high.
It makes sense because if you're geared too high, you won't get good acceleration out of the corners too because you'll bog down. If you're geared too low, you might get oversteer and spin out and if you have lots of grip, you'll unweight the front wheels and get understeer.
But what do I know? I couldn't make it around that track once without wiping out. I have the hand eye coordination of a turnip lol
Weight
Weight is key, you’d be surprised on how much weight you can lose with just using different items, screws, bolts for instance
A car lighter is better than a car making max weight
The kit issue items are all binned for lighter products.
Be surprised the time difference per lap and the handling
@@escos0410 oh for sure, that's why switching them all for titanium is often done.
This is why many airlines use a polished fuselage instead of a painted one: the paint adds a thousand lbs which costs thousands of gallons of fuel over the life of the plane.
whos gonna win?? haha
You lads gunner do it this year ?
Kev, you have to organize a separate race just you and tomley. Otherwise, there is no way he will make it to Amain
With Craig in his corner the racing is going to be tight.
Funny thing is - racing is exactly first thing I did in the hobby. Currently looking for something to bash between the races. B6.4 is a great platform and it was a pure joy to build it.
Now you have a new benchmark for what a quality Rc car is 👍
Right, no Chinese toy companies or oddball scales need apply.
What a beautiful track I wish we had something like that nearby I would definitely get into racing if I could go somewhere
Last weekend i build my first ever kit, its a simple tamiya dt-03 but i liked the feel of building it myself so it was a really cool process
Racing rc cars was my Nascar as a kid because I couldn't afford a Kart to race in. All of my love for rc stems from that. Don't sell yourself short! Racing is one of the many great aspects of rc
Those buggies are nice. Hope you have a good race.
Thanks dude
Seeing all of those glorious MonTec bodies piled up on that shelf made me a jealous American. I love their designs.
Wow you got some seriously good coaching there. Craig Dresher is a legend of the sport.
Race of the year for me. I can't wait to watch it. Good luck. 👍
The build looks so nice!!!! I'm currently building the Team associated 6.4D at the moment and it's actually my very first RC car I own too!!! It's such a nice build!!!!!
Wow, great job, specially with the shock's. I'm gonna try it. Boombastic video 👍
I've been going to MB Models for years now, it's where I got my first RC car, just bought a Tamiya TT02 Porsche from them, lovely blokes, definitely check em out.
Hey Phil, I think in the build video I saw your ESC has a capacitor pack, if you plugged it in backwards you probably only blew the capacitors which are replaceable. It is worth trying to desolder them and trying a new set. I did the same thing to my Hobbywing Max 10 and after new capacitors it was good as new.
Yes it does, but the smoke came from the actual ESC... so not sure if that would fix it
I have actually done the exact same thing blown luckily a very cheap esc and I had a spare on the shelf ... I like you will probably be extra careful from now on to actually make sure they are plugged in the right way ...
Lovely build great colour scheme.. looks nice for a race car 👍🤩🏅🏅
Thanks Pete
Pretty cool thanks for sharing, brings back memories
Awesome Video! I am rooting for ya Phil! good luck.
Thanks Dexter 🤘
Lego instructions and part bags, nice!
haha
Been running Team Associated for many many moons, great product. But I have to admit the LC Racing LC12B1 and LC10B5 are fantastic pro class racers.
Mate you can drive that thing! Amazing skills! Can't wait to see the race! 👌👍👊
Nice car. I really like TA. And like the music at the end.
Racing is a whole other animal. Its FUN, ADDICTIVE like crazy, and can get expensive!! But the fun trumps it. If your competitive, it feeds the nature.
Omg, that car is so beautiful. I’m inlove!
Regarding the shock filling with oil and bleeding you should put the spring retainer on the bottom before compressing to bleed because it will actually be a tiny bit less compression since it's up to 3-5 mm less that it can compress and less oil squirted out. Because obviously under use it can't compress that far .. slightly underfilled shocks just won't work quite right and sooner till they need refilling.
The instructions tell you to do it the way I did.... so I guess it's not going to make a huge difference. But I get what you are saying.
Wow that was impressive you really can drive when you use both hands lol can’t wait to see some racing!!!
A well lubricated shaft is the way to go.
A suggestion if you put your rear shocks upside down you get some insane searing. I did that to my 6.4 today at the track and it was night and day difference. It makes it to where you are able to transfer the weight in the rear end a lot quicker and lowers the cg down a bit. I am also running 35 in the front and 30 in the rear. it allows for more searing.
Very exciting... car looks epic. John
Brilliant, Phil! Fantastic build! 😃
That thing seems to be on tracks! Fantastic!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It was so nice to drive 👌
Beautiful buggy smooth as glass!
Looking pretty dialled and already putting some good laps together. No shame if you lose to Kev - he has done some racing in the past and has done quite a bit recently at his local track - which he is obviously more familiar with.
Looking forward to seeing the show - have fun with it.
well the thing is, they can do a new layout at his local track, and that's what they should do: a totally new layout that KT has never driven on.
Let's be real, they will not be racing. There is no way tomley will make it to amain
Springs control the stiffness. The fluid in the shock controls the rate of dampening. Thinner fluid will have less dampening but if springs still the same then it will be as stiff. Change springs first to get stiffness needed then check for rebound. If bouncy then thicken the shock fluid until there is a dampening effect and no springing about.
The buggy looks awesome and ready to rumble! You have absolutely nothing to lose in this race Phil and all to gain!
A dangerous man on track that is! Watch out pack!!
Yes l know its all about the fun! Yeah right!!! But have fun and good luck!
Lovely car and track there, you were driving smooth good practice session, looking forward to seeing the race for real soon, shame about blowing up ax200 quid esc, easy misake done that a couple of times myself
Looking forward to the race good luck mate
Great to see the race buggy out 🤟🏻
Really enjoyed seeing that go together
Great video my man. As always. Keep up the good work!
Thanks dude
@@TomleyRC . If you have time to get to it. Could you do some more FMS Atlas 6x6 videos? I have one I’m working on. Planning to do a Furitek conversion when I get back to workin. Just had surgery on my hand last Friday. Gives you time to make some upgrade videos if it interest you? Just a thought haha.
Anyways, I enjoy your videos and your approach to the hobby. Even being a knowledgeable seasoned veteran. Of the hobby and military. Take care and stay well.
The car seems so well balanced! Great driving too!
Yes it is such a nice buggy
Awesome Phil m8👍
If u ever want to get good at soldering take up fpv drones 😀 that's where I became good while building fpv quadcopters 😎
Very nice great RC and run looks like you are on the right track good luck 🤞
Like the colours you used for the body.
nice! good on ya, branching out into racing. if you're not careful, it's addicting
Nice, my 3 year old son's a Kevin Talbot fan (he drives a maverick quantum, a mini z crawler and a 144002 a few times a week) We watch both of you, I will be on team Tomley & the wee man will be on team Talbot :)
Will be great fun seeing you 2 race :)
Throttle and braking control is key to winning. Watch the fastest drivers line and try your best to stay on that line.
Good luck Phill 🤞
That track is the business fast straight.
I really hope more clubs start opening from watching you and kev race, I'd love a go at this!
Best of luck with the race
Nice to see the track, im there next weekend for the euromasters, goid luck for the race, see a few more may be going 👍 should be a few great vids out soon 😁
Looks spot on Phil! This race is yours, looked dialled at the end there
It's certainly dialled.... I just need to make sure I have some clean laps lol
Fantastic lads at MB, although would say that bring from Leeds 😏 looking forward to the Race 👍
Best of luck in the big race !
Looks like a really nice kit, I’ve been wanting to try to build my own.
Brother, that was some wicked great driving for it being your first time on the track. No doubt you and Kevin are going to make this race awesome. I'm going to build my first rc, once it comes out I'm buying the Kyosho Dirt Master buggy kit.
Yeah, I don't know if I could get around ONCE let along with any sort of speed.
Rooting for you Phil. It's a win win situation regardless. Good luck
Yes, it's already a win... just having the opportunity to Race a proper buggy 👌
That last shot was awesome! Corner gap!
9th‼️🤣🤣🤣
Love that Trombone Shock‼️👍👍🦾🦾
Haha
Great job looks good
The car looks great and you drove well. Ii think you will give Talbot a very good race. I have smoked an esc before. I have had to put a piece of red tape next to the positive hole on the battery.
I had to do that with my last gf lol.......
Nice car! Good driving and the car looks planted. I hope you and Kev have fun racing.
It's gonna be fun, whatever the result
Nicely done buddy. Looking good
same here, never raced before and have my buggy and all too
That's awesome. A new element of fun in the hobbie for you. Bet you get hooked.
Nice one Phil, drive safe and see you later :) I'm so coming last!
Well.. there is a WLtoys on the track as well, so that may not be quite as well prepared as your buggy
Haven’t Built a race kit since when I did race in 93-95.
I raced 1/10 4WD electric , I started with a used Schumacher ProCat , and bought a brand new Kyosho Lazer zx r, mk ii ,
Tekin esc, 10x2 brushed motor . With 7.2v Saddle pack Matched Sanyo SCRC, I got set up tips from other ppl and went with I felt worked for me,.
I won a season even😊
Nicely done sir
I realy since a period of time watching every video of you and I prefer your channel ! I watch out for any New vids ! Great youtuber !! Grt Angelo from belgium
Thanks Angelo 🙏
@@TomleyRC you very welcome you deserve the credits
You did really well can t blv was your first time rc Racing. You need head 2 Malta next and gozo some gr8 out door tracks there you will enjoy it gr8 content
Goooooo TEAM TOMLEY 🏁🏁🏁 🏆 🏆 👊🏼😎🤙🏼💨💨💨
On the back strait it looks like you could add a tooth or two to the pinion. Very good acceleration in the corners, and pretty good top speed.
Really nice buggy,nice kit 👍👍👌burnt my baked beans watching this 😬😬😬🤣🤣🤣👍
Associated glide so well in the air nice and level, good laps mate, you should do well,
Bring on the Man Child 😉🤣
the other man child you mean? lol
MB raceway is an amazing venue!
Smooth run 🔥
Cars Looking good 👍🏽
Wow! I can't belive you have never raced! Prepare to be addicted!
Associated makes the best looking cars
wow, that thing looks like it's on rails!
It was certainly an experience driving it!
Brass bulkhead will help the front end stick like glue.
The race will be epic cant wait
Clipping that last apex in the air!
That was a pro driver...not me 😅
4:07 - A little bit of O-Ring grease on the top of your shaft. LOL!!!
Man. The associated racing kits are awesome.
Yes, they are awesome
Nice laps!
Quality mate!
4:33 - "Slowly up and down to get the air out ..."
Can't wait to see the race.
You just might smoke him. Lol.
Definitely gotta do best of three. Lol. So nobody has excuses. Lol
Wow can't belive they are your first laps . Well done . On another note make sure u lock tight vthe screws inside your shocks otherwise u will have a bad day . Good luck dude
Looks really good, could you do a video with a top spec/race Tamiya Top Force vs a new 4wd race buggy from the likes of team associated or Shumacher etc, would love to see how a vintage buggy fully maxed out will perform against a modern buggy in a race.
That buggy seems to handle really well, you'll beat Kev for sure!!!!!!!!
Impressive!
6:30 NOPE! McCain quick cook fries ... Then you at the track 🤣
I just dug out an original RC10 B4 Team Competition I bought way back when. It has a NovaShock Brushless & ESC. Is it worth upgrading the electronics, or are the newer RC10s just in a different league these days?
Great job
And it was fun! 🎉
Kev is coming for you man !!!
9:30 This is what ticks me off about electronics makers.....why on earth wouldn't they simply add a reverse polarity protection circuit in? I'm no electronics whiz but I know enough to know that all it would take is 2 diodes...plug in the battery the wrong way and the current wouldn't flow past the diodes (they are directional). NO damage done. Reverse the polarity and voila, done.